Fireside Chat with Condoleezza Rice and Robert M. Gates

[@stevehumphrey8626]

What a wonderful, thoughtful and deep discussion. Gives me hope that we are getting a better understanding of the changes happening in the world.

[@gavinmc5285]

What about China?

[@Rastetah8472]

We need Condoleeza to step up and save us by becoming our next president.

[@RobertMJohnson]

LOLOL. You’re funny.

[@READ-sj8ww]

@@Rastetah8472AGREE!! Condoleeza would be an amazing president!

[@WAKirsten]

Condoleeza Rice brings so much fact and analysis of history & what it means for the US as a nation & the world, prospering for America & all peoples in the world.

[@JM-if1mo]

Her comment about not letting Russia past Ukraine is wrong. Russia can't have Ukraine. She also messed up the Iraq war.

[@gavinmc5285]

🇹🇼 ('the easy mark'): reverse charge, collect call, do you wish to hold for operator assistance?

[@Rastetah8472]

And people actually believe Kamala can do that😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@paulgilliland2992]

Definitely two of the best security and diplomatic minds in the history of these posts. I read both biographies and Gates especially was so interesting.

[@gavinmc5285]

Check Gates: Widows 95xp

[@davec6146]

I really appreciate the clear and honest presentation made here. Mr. Sanger said something toward the beginning that is so important and so damning to the leadership of our times. Pres. Biden said we do have a strategy but I'm unwilling to discuss it. That's just about 90% of why things are so screwed up in our country (at least I think this way). Our greatest leaders understood that you have to communicate and lead the American people. That's when we've succeeded. There is actually a "we the people" and you can't run it for long (as "they" have been trying to do for decades) unless "we the people" buy in.Not a sales pitch. An honest presentation like these people just made. I wish they were in leadership today. I hope some people like them (responsible adults) will come along soon. Otherwise....I don't have much hope at all.

[@foodbytheword6262]

Very informative insights!

[@michaeljiang960]

rice and gates still live in the cold war age.

[@tongwu4667]

rice is a Russian expert.

[@siamcharm7904]

none of the three has any real knowledge of todays china.

[@siamcharm7904]

both guests are lying about russia and ignoring the facts in the relationship. both sound like dyed in the wool neocons.

[@JM-if1mo]

@@tongwu4667 Her comment about not letting Russia past Ukraine is wrong. Russia can't have Ukraine. She also messed up the Iraq war.

[@gavinmc5285]

🍚🪟

[@welwynmanager323]

It is unbelievable that the US have people like Condi and Gate but they are stuck with Harris, Biden and Trump

[@wma2140]

I didn’t appreciate Sanger’s snide remark about Biden not telling the public the plan to put a wedge between Russia and the PRC. And Sanger’s inappropriate criticism of Biden’s nuanced answer to his question because Biden had to put it in context. Sanger, part of the DC establishment, has been seized by the current Biden bashing.

[@imtryinghere1]

Biden has had two left feet in politics, security and foreign affairs. He has a 50 year track record of some weird and wrong calls. It's not about today or Trump.

[@elylester1178]

Interviewer: So who is responsible for the West's failure to deter Putin? American interviewee from either party: Points away from self.

[@gavinmc5285]

Hang My Pants!

[@milicadjukich4416]

If she ran fir president she would awesome

[@Rastetah8472]

We need her more than we need to expand Ai.

[@milicadjukich4416]

@@Rastetah8472 TRUE, I KNOW SHE WAS GREAT

[@felixf.3392]

Why were the USA so successful in the Cold War? They implemented the Marshall Plan to economically strengthen their partners in Europe. The USA was the largest economy and opened its market to the products of its allies. The USA offered its allies a security umbrella with nuclear deterrence through NATO. This enabled America to push back the influence of the Soviet Union on Europe and ultimately win the Cold War. The alliance between Western Europe and the USA is difficult today. Germany, for example, follows a mercantilist economic model and is therefore dependent on cheap energy and large growth markets. Russia and China can offer both to Western Europe like no other country. The USA, on the other hand, is becoming increasingly less important as an economic partner. And since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Western Europe no longer faces a serious military threat from Russia. Nevertheless, tens of thousands of American soldiers are still stationed in hundreds of US military bases and US nuclear weapons are on German soil. If you look at the situation objectively from the US perspective, America is protecting Europe from the countries with which it has close trade relations. However, Europe's core interest is to further develop its economic relations with the US's biggest competitors. Do not be blinded by the rhetoric of politicians. Feelings, shared history, values, culture and traditions play no role at all in whether alliances really work. What matters is whether interests coincide. And it turns out that today the interests of Europe and the US are no longer compatible and this partnership will soon end.

[@gavinmc5285]

The ideogical infrastructure folded with restructuring. The physical infrastructure collapsed with openness. So: 1. Failure to adapt; 2. Inability to not desecret. 65 years (1922 - 1987) is a fairly standard retirement age as global standards go.

[@markaja2]

The USA had low collateral damage from WWII, rapid advancements in technology due to government research, used military might to leverage better deals in raw materials from other countries, had good trade relations with allies, and developed super specialization. I think what gets overlooked is the optimistic belief in a meritocracy and the population pyramid supported the fiat money system.

[@markaja2]

You’re naive if you believe there weren’t under the table quid pro quo deals between the USA and European countries because of our disproportionate contributions to NATO. The issue is that those deals have a tendency to let corruption grow.

[@yeejlilys9742]

"We lied, we cheated, and we stole."

[@gavinmc5285]

Gotta win over Communism somehow

[@MarkWinterrowd]

Getting cozy with war criminals. Cute.

[@gavinmc5285]

A small world, a Cold War, oh, and by the way: terror.

[@snathan3198]

Victoria Nuland? $5 billion?

[@Nukleotyde]

Where is Condoleezza Rice? Doing nothing. Liz Cheney is! What a disappointment. Where will you be if democracy falls Condoleezza..

[@sarahjenkins7064]

The war mongers have spoken.

[@Rastetah8472]

My question is, why help save these little countries who can't save themselves, without requiring them to become American? When we leave them, they just get assaulted again and we waste more money. As trump said,"No pay, no protection,"...is the best way. BUT as we did with Guam, we need to do with Ukrainian affairs.

[@peterabild1123]

Interesting

[@FrankieDaBat]

When was this taped?

[@gavinmc5285]

Recently

[@susworld129]

Aren't Ukrainians russians in the same way Texans are Americans? My capital "r" isn't working.

[@markaja2]

Your comment is sus

[@Rastetah8472]

Yes, and many have alluded to the possibility that we may have been had.😮😮😮😮

[@PlaydoughPlato]

Fireside meaning next to the world they helped burn

[@antonyfrancis3247]

Robert Gates behaved like a schoolboy, sniggering at Putin's speech during the 2008 Munich security meet in Germany. Grow up kiddo!

[@gavinmc5285]

If you can't keep a sense of humor at that level you'd probably end up a psychopath

[@antonyfrancis3247]

@@gavinmc5285 yes, psychopaths are busy committing genocide in Ukraine and Gaza without sending in their SONS and DAUGHTERS into battle. Afraid ?

[@gavinmc5285]

🇮🇶🇱🇾/🔚♟ 🇨🇳@60%? Can the Civilization afford to 'lose' 300m? On what aims would you sacrifice Communism with Chinese characteristics for? PRC Assertive Brittle Chinese Can't forget Hollywood too (exports)