Firewatch - Investigating in Isolation

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Ben Again

Ben Again

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@ben_again
@ben_again Ай бұрын
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@espelhodasconstelacoes
@espelhodasconstelacoes Ай бұрын
Hey man your videos are always a banger :D God bless ya and Jesus loves ya :)
@Capybara__gamer
@Capybara__gamer Ай бұрын
Bro why did u delete the discord server i boosted that shit😭
@edward29345
@edward29345 Ай бұрын
@@Capybara__gamer Please come to god and repent of your sins to god and ask forgiveness and only Jesus Christ saves, please read the bible and follow Jesus Christ
@edward29345
@edward29345 Ай бұрын
@@espelhodasconstelacoes Please come to god and repent of your sins to god and ask forgiveness and only Jesus Christ saves, please read the bible and follow Jesus Christ
@edward29345
@edward29345 Ай бұрын
Please come to god and repent of your sins to god and ask forgiveness and only Jesus Christ saves, please read the bible and follow Jesus Christ
@AnakhaSilver
@AnakhaSilver Ай бұрын
I feel too many people miss the point that this is about two people getting caught up in the isolation and condemn the mystery for not being an actual huge conspiracy. It's two people who're lost in the moment, in their own heads, caught up in the IDEA of a huge conspiracy. But then it's just a grieving man who can't let go of his son, and some people researching bears. People were PISSED there wasn't a government conspiracy.
@redundantfridge9764
@redundantfridge9764 Ай бұрын
Honestly, it's a breath of fresh air seeing that the government had nothing to do with what happens (aside from abandoning a whole lot of equipment...which is accurate). Coincidences and happenstance, happens. It's almost like conspiracy theorists in real life who blame everything on the government or aliens (easy targets, sometimes they're actually right. Sometimes, it's nonsense)
@Broeckchen
@Broeckchen Ай бұрын
It's written all over everything, too. Ned's plot is literally also about getting lost in the isolation.
@genericname2747
@genericname2747 Ай бұрын
I understand why they feel upset that the story wasn't what they wanted, but sometimes you find a game and you realize it's actually not the type of genre you like. I've seen people complain Night In The Woods is a cosmic horror, without realizing that they actually just want to play a different game.
@w0zwald
@w0zwald Ай бұрын
In a way, it also explains the whole "romance" route with Delilah. If the player chooses to lean in on Delilah's flirting, at the end of the game, she still tells Henry that he needs to go back to his wife and forget about the summer. This adds to the idea that most of this game was about them living in their own fantasy and trying to forget about their real problems at home. I remember so many people were upset over the game about how Henry had to let go of Delilah and never got to meet her. Ben was one of the first players I've seen actually bring up how wrong it was for Delilah to flirt with Henry.
@dante_0962
@dante_0962 Ай бұрын
My problem is the payoff since we don’t confront him or have this encounter wanting to make Henry meet his wife.
@jothamsmith2658
@jothamsmith2658 Ай бұрын
In my playthrough, I roleplayed as Henry trying to start a fling with Delilah to escape his problems. The end is heartbreaking, as Delilah tells you your summer meant nothing and you need to go back to your wife. The whole mystery is two people trying to live an exciting fantasy but eventually... they have to go back to reality.
@Calamity-_-y
@Calamity-_-y Ай бұрын
Did Ben just casually do a face reveal, in such a nonchalant manner as to baffle me enough to not realize for a good 5 minutes
@kawaiicake8038
@kawaiicake8038 Ай бұрын
WHERE???
@Calamity-_-y
@Calamity-_-y Ай бұрын
@ During the Raycon sponsorship, 99% sure that’s him
@Popka_Drugs
@Popka_Drugs Ай бұрын
@@Calamity-_-y couldn't really blame him if that really is him, everyone skips those anyway
@notaperson7986
@notaperson7986 Ай бұрын
IT WAS SO NONCHALANT I BARELY NOTICED 💀
@ezf9186
@ezf9186 Ай бұрын
Can't be Ben, no hoodie
@lunarlicorice
@lunarlicorice Ай бұрын
i honestly had the same "i remember this being big but don't remember anything about it" feeling before watching a streamer replay it a few months ago. i have no idea how i could ever forget any of that again. i lost my grandmother to alzheimer's when she was in her early 50s, i was 8. this story hit harder the second time through
@Loolilol
@Loolilol Ай бұрын
I absolutely love the cardboard cutout in the background of the thumbnail making people think this may be a horror game
@Penguinmanereikel
@Penguinmanereikel Ай бұрын
With Forrest Burns, it might as well be.
@crescendo1335
@crescendo1335 Ай бұрын
Good luck with finals, funny horror guy, I'll definitely be keeping an eye out for the new stuff and watching this video R.I.P Bento Box
@citruslllad
@citruslllad Ай бұрын
o7
@altejoh
@altejoh Ай бұрын
I remember liking this game for the visuals, the interractive "make your own story experience" elememts, as well as how not only your character being unreliable but also the person who you would expect to be the knowledgeable mentor is revealed to not really know what they are doing either. This combined with the somber story and plot reveals and isolation made for a very introspective game. I didnt really understand why so many people didnt like the game (except perhaps those who didnt like the simplistic gameplay experience, which fair enough i guess), until i watched some modern streamers recently and realized that you can just, miss certain parts that I consider "essential" to the story, if you just refuse to explore or talk to Deliah and rush to the end of the game. I was suddenly like "oh, if this is the experience many people get no wonder they dont like this game."
@chaosinsurgency6636
@chaosinsurgency6636 Ай бұрын
30:13 if you’re be doing anything dangerous, you have absolute responsibility of making sure they do things correctly and properly especially when it’s something that you will not live to make that same mistake again
@SunshineCo225
@SunshineCo225 Ай бұрын
Yeah I don't think Ned is a murderer but he had legal responsibility to keep Brian safe and didn't do enough. And failed him again after for abandoning the body. And he stalked two people and committed actual crimes later (at least I imagine tapping the radios is a crime), so I don't blame Delilah for being angry at him and blaming him. He's not a good person at the end of the day
@Castersvarog
@Castersvarog Ай бұрын
Personally there’s two things I remember about this game, the wife having Dimentia, and Marks insane cardboard mascot
@ms.rumandcoke5344
@ms.rumandcoke5344 Ай бұрын
I'm glad someone remembers Mark with the mascot I still watch it from time to time
@aberrated4918
@aberrated4918 Ай бұрын
34:46 Do what you gotta do man, we'll be here supporting you from the sidelines. o7
@Fronswath
@Fronswath Ай бұрын
sincerely good luck with your final semester. Remember to take breaks and take care of yourself while working hard. I believe in you.
@KooperKoo
@KooperKoo Ай бұрын
Fly high Bento Box it was wonderful watching people reply to every Mizu5 mention
@boomfanfic-a-latta8996
@boomfanfic-a-latta8996 Ай бұрын
MIZU5 MENTIONED?!
@animal_gal_adventures9885
@animal_gal_adventures9885 Ай бұрын
Wait who is bento box?
@taiyorenai7690
@taiyorenai7690 Ай бұрын
13:04 This is such an authentic friends joking around moment, I love it 😭
@BenniWithABiscuit
@BenniWithABiscuit Ай бұрын
I had always heard about this game a whole lot but was like "what even is going on??" because I never watched any sort of gameplay of it. This honestly cleared up a lot and all I had to say was like "Damn. That was actually pretty wild." Goodluck on your final semester btw man
@yshkadiie26
@yshkadiie26 Ай бұрын
The fact that you cover a lot of nostalgic games in the 2010s makes me miss that era of short but sweet indie classics that have a really heartfelt story to tell. I recently stumbled upon "Until Then" and it really scratched that itch for me and I hope you'd play it someday because more people really need to know about it
@mandalorianhunter1
@mandalorianhunter1 Ай бұрын
It's been 8 years since this game came out. I'm thinking it was 2015 but it was 2016, when my life went down the drain. Honestly I still have a lot of nostalgia for this game
@Tman2bard
@Tman2bard Ай бұрын
Gonna say at the start, you're not the main character in this. You can make choices, but they make sense to that character. Henry has issues, so of couse he makes bad choices. also "get it on sale, its 20 dollars for only 4 hours" like bruh, that's a damn good price for a good story imo
@friendbreakfast
@friendbreakfast Ай бұрын
the way he says "Me, personally, i'd wait for it to be on sale" and then goes onto praise the game to hell and back for pretty much all its aspects was obviously so weird to me. like i dunno, you barely noticed any flaws, the only one you mentioned was some glitches. how is that game not deserving of at least more than the "get it on sale" price?
@jothamsmith2658
@jothamsmith2658 Ай бұрын
You used to be able to get your photos properly printed on the Firewatch website, which I thought was a nuts choice.
@amy_grace
@amy_grace Ай бұрын
Yeah, their publisher was a tiny little Portland software company with a venerable history of doing elaborate one-off "merch" runs like that. (I have a couple of their shirts!)
@daaaan47
@daaaan47 Ай бұрын
4:36 I literally can't take it seriously when a goofy ah cut out is staring at horizontaly.
@silverrush95100
@silverrush95100 Ай бұрын
The final goodbye at the end really tugs at my heartstrings. Poor people just needed a break and someone to talk to. Also good luck with school, hope everything goes smoothly!
@SunshineCo225
@SunshineCo225 Ай бұрын
I find it fascinating how consistent Delilah is as a character for the throughline of the story, despite being kinda terrible. She clearly has a very huge problem with confrontation. Her partner leaves her? She doesn't want negative attention so she lies that it's his fault. Two girls go missing? She doesn't want the cops on her so she lies again. And her need to figure out why she's being tracked and her panic shows clearly that she cannot handle facing the music. But irs interesting because shes fhe one who tells Henry to do so, in the end, despite not being an to do it herself. I think its masterful writing even if i wanted to throw a shoe at her sometimes
@IxodesPersulcatus
@IxodesPersulcatus Ай бұрын
I both love and hate that the protagonist never figures out what sort of person Delilah really is. Or perhaps, he does realize it, but never lets it slip. That's what stuck with me the most.
@genericname2747
@genericname2747 Ай бұрын
Delilah kind of sucks tbh. Both characters suck in similar ways.
@miniwhiffy3465
@miniwhiffy3465 Ай бұрын
@@genericname2747I mean people suck so it makes sense
@topcatfan
@topcatfan 6 күн бұрын
​@@miniwhiffy3465People who think that suck
@Miooni
@Miooni Ай бұрын
6:54 casual face reveal
@Forg0-Nan0
@Forg0-Nan0 Ай бұрын
Rip bento box 🫡🕊️
@silentspirit8923
@silentspirit8923 Ай бұрын
I saw someone play the game in passing, but I really wanted to focus on what the story was about. So, thanks for the video!
@julialungan4722
@julialungan4722 Ай бұрын
Rip discord. I didnt write anything since i joined, except when i got the news it ends, but the few moments were a delight. It closed right as i was about to send "Goodbye ya'll". Ok now i should actually watch the video.
@vizzzyy190
@vizzzyy190 Ай бұрын
theres been so many firewatch vids lately and im so happy for it
@musicnotewirt
@musicnotewirt Ай бұрын
We love you ben, stay strong youre almost done there! We will support you from here buddy. good luck and we will miss you lots!
@BingBong7778
@BingBong7778 Ай бұрын
As a representative of “The Kids” please NEVER be hip ever again please.
@ReRoji
@ReRoji Ай бұрын
New Ben Again video? Hell yeah.
@eliptyshadow
@eliptyshadow Ай бұрын
man. i haven't watched a proper full playthrough of this game nor have i played it myself, but i know it's a beautiful game. this video's the first i've seen of certain points and angles of the game, both narratively in perspectives and specific parts of the gameplay (somehow this is the first time i've seen henry tossing the backpack into the pickup truck at the start, which is something that seems so simple), and i think i'd like to add my own thoughts and ideas based off of the things i do know. this game has grief and escapism written all over it. ned grieving brian, yes, but also henry grieving over his wife due to her crumbling condition and delilah grieving her relationship after she didn't come home and left. and then you have all of them escaping their realities (burying his son, seeing his wife forget more and more, going back to a home filled only with her own mistakes) by staying in shoshone national forest. and while they're there, they have a great time! delilah and henry have a person they can open up to, there's a beautiful forest awaiting them all, and there's no time to think about the life they've left behind because there's a mystery afoot! except... at the end of the day, there isn't truly escaping their reality they came here to hide from. the forest burns. the summer ends. they have to go home. ...i dunno, i think i've run out of words now. thank you for making this video, and good luck with finals!
@VientoNocturno
@VientoNocturno Ай бұрын
You keep doing this, spoiling us with such classics ^^ thank you! Also, that you? 6:48
@reddie1705
@reddie1705 Ай бұрын
You got these finals man, don't overhype them! Teachers and Professors nowadays usually hate stuff like that so it shouldn't be too rough, sending you brain power o7
@Nobodydu77
@Nobodydu77 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the great video ! Much support and good vibes for this last strech at Uni !!
@reekee2182
@reekee2182 Ай бұрын
Good luck with finals Ben !! 💕
@littlecherryartist
@littlecherryartist Ай бұрын
Good luck with your finals Ben!! Thanks for the amazing video as always!
@GambeTama
@GambeTama Ай бұрын
There is definitely a difference in feeling between watching someone play a game and playing it yourself. The act of involving yourself directly already creates this sense of investment that you cant really get away from, and what you experience becomes wholly your own. It would be *you* hiding from the killer, *you* saving the world, *you* making all of those close friends, and so on. It is one of those human things that helps make each experience fresh, and why people who come into a fandom tangentially can still get a "true experience" even after knowing roughly what goes down.
@Jell000
@Jell000 Ай бұрын
OH MY HOLY GOD Firewatch is such an incredible experience ❤️ first nitw and now this? Ur on a roll with these, Ben
@galaxydragons6244
@galaxydragons6244 Ай бұрын
amazing video! i love this game a lot becaue of its aesthetics and like, very real character writing so I screamed when I saw you covered it. you always have a unique take on games and i hope your finals go over well so you can keep creating without worry!
@hollowbox5723
@hollowbox5723 Ай бұрын
LETS GO Time to watch Ben Again, Firewatch special!
@greenbeanmachine9002
@greenbeanmachine9002 Ай бұрын
Lets goooo Its always a good day when ben uploads again
@jamisonMcFart
@jamisonMcFart Ай бұрын
Say that again
@genericname2747
@genericname2747 Ай бұрын
I vibe with the ability to just wander. I think more games should let us wander. And I love the mystery too. Sometimes things just happen and that's all there is to it.
@zachfoster1847
@zachfoster1847 Ай бұрын
Good luck with school! And I loved your video covering Firewatch. I agree with what was said, your version of Henry and D was much more enjoyable than even my own playthrough.
@HumuhumuNukunukuuaapaAHHH
@HumuhumuNukunukuuaapaAHHH 21 күн бұрын
Hey ben, if your seeing this well welcome the comment section lol Anyway I want to recommend a game called 'bad end theater' Its an amazing story game that delves into perspective and its importance. The only thing i think you wont like is it can be repetitive following through the characters story's. Not even as a video tho: I just think you'll like the game
@kkstar1718
@kkstar1718 Ай бұрын
I honestly have to say I'm enjoying the PL vs. AA music that's playing in the background 😊
@trueursnac1917
@trueursnac1917 Ай бұрын
Thank you Ben R.I.P Bento box 🫡🫡
@TheTrueThomayo
@TheTrueThomayo Ай бұрын
Kick some ass on your Finals, man. You got this!
@SnakeyBoiii871
@SnakeyBoiii871 Ай бұрын
Always working hard Ben! Keep up the great work and be proud of what you publish!
@iveyao120
@iveyao120 Ай бұрын
Good luck with university Ben! Thank you for the amazing videos
@DinkleBamp420
@DinkleBamp420 Ай бұрын
ben is so chill bruh.....its so entertaining to watch hes videos
@valleyard8674
@valleyard8674 18 күн бұрын
"I don't respect you" "WHAT THE FUCK?!" Ngl, I laughed more than I should
@sleepycl0wnery
@sleepycl0wnery Ай бұрын
I didnt get to spend much time in the bentobox but it was nice while it lasted, been a big fan since your first video and cant wait to see more :) good luck with everything you do Ben >:)
@cooker0rats
@cooker0rats Ай бұрын
man i wish i had bens weird ability to somehow entirely forget peak ass games down to the basic plotline
@AxtonDaiga
@AxtonDaiga Ай бұрын
Fantastic video I can't wait for the next one. and thanks for the nostalgic trip down memory Lane.
@scarlettskipper9352
@scarlettskipper9352 Ай бұрын
New Ben Again video, hurray!
@justanotherguywithamoustac8893
@justanotherguywithamoustac8893 Ай бұрын
Excellent video, good luck with those finals!
@freakytiki1210
@freakytiki1210 Ай бұрын
watching this and immediately recognising the NITW soundtrack being used, made me uncontrollably happy
@MichaelThomas-x4o
@MichaelThomas-x4o Ай бұрын
Boosteroid is a game-changer. My gaming has never been this smooth!
@topazmarigold804
@topazmarigold804 Ай бұрын
Good luck homie. Wishing you the best!!
@maskofcuteness3234
@maskofcuteness3234 Ай бұрын
34:46 i understand Ben. I've been in your shoes before and i gotta say it was a pretty difficult time for me too. I hope you pass Ben. Best of luck
@minichou
@minichou Ай бұрын
lol we're both graduating at the same time. also what I could remember from this game when it was popular, there was a theory video about how Delilah never existed or something cause you dont see other people other than their silhouettes, which is an interesting artistic choice. Other that that, this is a really bittersweet game ^^
@flameheart87
@flameheart87 Ай бұрын
"firewatch took over the internet" Me who has never heard of it ever :D
@Vabdlc
@Vabdlc Ай бұрын
the campy teen voice just sounded like Jecka from Class of '09 lmao
@JustStuff-sz2uu
@JustStuff-sz2uu Ай бұрын
1:36 Ben no-
@osbornejohnson7919
@osbornejohnson7919 Ай бұрын
My fav part is the Stanley parable crossover
@maximator_rex
@maximator_rex Ай бұрын
hey ben! i found ur ytb acc via this video and ive been binge watching ALL of ur videos for the past 3 days now and i rlly love how u do storytelling! idunno if u know the game another code but if u could make a video about it, it would be amazing! the game is not THAT popular which is rlly sad, its an incredible game that i spent wayyyy too much time playing when i was younger. cant wait for the next video!!
@CheeseBrie
@CheeseBrie Ай бұрын
I don't think I'll ever forget about Firewatch. Even many years after finishing it, I still think about it from time to time. It still has my 2 favourite characters out of any game I've played, the only thing that comes close is the main cast of Kentucky Route Zero. Henry and Delilah just feel so real as characters, plus the chemistry between them just makes it so fucking endearing, all the while always having a lingering feeling of melancholy in the air. I know there's many people who have a lot of issues with the game, mainly with the ending and the mystery aspect, but I personally think both were executed perfectly, in general I think Firewatch is the closest thing to a "perfect" game, that I personally have experienced.
@HappyAxolotl24
@HappyAxolotl24 Ай бұрын
There's actually a KZbinr named Captainsauce who basically did a theroy video on this game. If you like Fire Watch, i would highly recommend checking it out
@fairygodgaming
@fairygodgaming Ай бұрын
Wishing you great success with finals and graduation!!✨
@Meddling_Mage
@Meddling_Mage Ай бұрын
oh man is this a sweet story
@Chocobyter
@Chocobyter Ай бұрын
I really love this game, but those glitches... Those never happened to me, not even when I was playing on XBOX Gamepass, on cloud, on a pirated app(on an Android TV) with the game constantly stopping between scenes due to my poor internet. What a weird glitch
@Dutchtica
@Dutchtica Ай бұрын
35:29 "Lone abandoned shoe" was the name of my Weezer coverband in college
@hollowbox5723
@hollowbox5723 Ай бұрын
Good luck on finals Ben! (Know I'm 2 days late but you got this!!)
@SnuSnuDungeon
@SnuSnuDungeon Ай бұрын
Good luck in your finals Ben ❤
@The_Slumber_incident
@The_Slumber_incident Ай бұрын
The king has returned 👑
@red16806
@red16806 Ай бұрын
Another video lets gooooooooo !
@kyllernotkiller
@kyllernotkiller Ай бұрын
This game is somehow a game I never seen the ending even though I know it from release
@brandileigh7684
@brandileigh7684 Ай бұрын
There was always one thing that bothered me about the ending. Why was all the equipment still there? It was just left out in the woods, unattended? I know it needed to be there to keep the narrative the way they wanted it, but what was the in-universe reason for the government just abandoning hundreds, maybe even thousands, of dollars in equipment in a park? Still attached to power, at that. And it can't be a case of "they still used it" because then Ned's notes wouldn't have been left there. If they only used it seasonally, some of the larger equipment might have been left. However, there was plenty of portable equipment left too. For me, that's why the "It was just one guy!" ending felt so bad. I get wanting to have a twist in your story, and I don't even think the "It's a conspiracy!" ending would have been good, but ffs don't leave open a massive plot hole. (Henry's comments about notes related to Julia also fit into this category. We as the player see no notes about Julia that weren't already discussed, but somehow Henry does? And how would Ned even have found that information out? It doesn't make sense unless Henry was, quite literally, experiencing delusions.)
@hatcher365
@hatcher365 Ай бұрын
29:23 that is the first refrence i have ever seen to the andy grithith show.
@k.okirbe
@k.okirbe Ай бұрын
i dont know if i can watch this video after hearing you say "sigma rizz" i think im just gonna have to explode myself up all i remembered was the crazy guy in the woods that followed you around
@ultimate8125
@ultimate8125 Ай бұрын
Baller game so I know this video is gonna be good
@splebee
@splebee Ай бұрын
The only fire I'm watching is hit youtuber Ben Again
@mev6512
@mev6512 Ай бұрын
waiting on wadanohara
@RandomPerson-L
@RandomPerson-L Ай бұрын
Only thing I remember about firewatch is the alt ending where the helicopter leaves you if you take too long to get on.
@spidervenom4287
@spidervenom4287 Ай бұрын
Yay first upload In a bit
@Firestar4041
@Firestar4041 Ай бұрын
I agree with how this game left me not much to remember Its not bad, its a good story, with a nice scenery to walk in and explore Its just the ending really left me feeling unfulfilled, i guess The twist is nice, if kinda random given the dad is just fucking with them. But mainly just lacked closure i feel. Julia's dementia is mainly there to fill in Henry's background Henry and Delilah get some with the little, "You choose mine and i choose yours" But no follow up with any of them. No closure with Ned, or if rescue teams even recovered Brians body, if it was lost to the fire Just.... end.
@miniwhiffy3465
@miniwhiffy3465 Ай бұрын
:O a firewatch video
@143Ollie
@143Ollie Ай бұрын
I like firewatch its very pretty
@ZellyTheFangirl
@ZellyTheFangirl Ай бұрын
Good luck on your finals and your future schooling! Hopefully the next time we hear from you you'll have a shiny diploma :]
@aniflowers1998
@aniflowers1998 Ай бұрын
I remember that this game made me cry rather hard upon finding the kids body. It's the bigest thing about this game that I remember. That dead kid hidden in the caves. I always forget about the fake out goverment conspiracy, but the tragedy of that kids demise always stays in my mind. Also, think of me as a bad person, but I always wanted Henry and Delilah to get together in the end xD They both lived low key misserable lives, full of comited mistakes and fates crule tricks. I felt they deserve a new start. Delilah alredy lost her boyfriend completely. And Henry is actively loosing his wive, watching her dimentia chip away at her day by day... I find it to crule to let them seperate at the end. I want them to be happy, even if that means "running away" one last time.
@SteakhouseShawn
@SteakhouseShawn Ай бұрын
me when I look at fire for an extended period
@danielsanchezpagan2464
@danielsanchezpagan2464 Ай бұрын
i love your vidos keep it up buckaroo.
@claythemage2693
@claythemage2693 15 күн бұрын
You should review the Trilogy of sleep games made by the same person who made the don't escape Trilogy
@Adealerofblackberry
@Adealerofblackberry Ай бұрын
finally i can breathe again
@NemFX
@NemFX Ай бұрын
The two problems were, everyone hated the ending, and Campo Santo basically got destroyed right after the game. But this game is amazing.
@littleraskal2621
@littleraskal2621 Ай бұрын
Still waiting for the "Don't escape 4" video
@lizzie_linlin
@lizzie_linlin Ай бұрын
Bento Box will be missed
@Not_A_Bomb
@Not_A_Bomb Ай бұрын
Yes my favourite game 😢
@touhoutrash2436
@touhoutrash2436 Ай бұрын
Hey i remember this game from a long time ago!
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