First Australian Army Boxer conversion course

[@wavavoom]

You know what's scary the vehicle is a 30 year leap from the ASLAV but its main gun is nearly 100 years old.

[@cvdheyden]

Well done! Greetings form Frankfurt/Main Germany

[@maxt7525]

Great to see! If only other government departments could adapt and move forward as quick as the defence force, Australia would be better off

[@bobgoodworth1626]

These puppies are taller than an Abrams

[@big-irish-git]

And make ASLAV look like a toy - www.contactairlandandsea.com/2018/03/14/boxer-wins-land-400/

[@tomf9336]

Congratulations! Boxer + Lynx....!:) Respect from Hungary!

[@big-irish-git]

Lynx hasn't been selected yet. The competition with Hanwa K9 has pretty much just started.

[@tiiBBzi]

@@big-irish-git *Redback AS-21 and it's in phase 3, we'll hear the winner soon. My money is on the Redback, so much technology transfer, local tech manufacturing and integration, + pre orders ready to go. Along with Aus becoming SK secondary arms manufacturer, it's a true win win for Aus and SK.

[@lucashudson4942]

Wished we had them when I was with 5/7 RAR we had the old M113`s.

[@lucashudson4942]

Well protected, well connected wow what wonderful new sayings our soldiers have The Boxer looks great but its way to big .

[@big-irish-git]

Page 18 in this magazine explains why its so big - www.contactairlandandsea.com/2019/06/01/contact-62-out-now/ The laws of physics can't be changed - you either go big or compromise on the selection criteria.

[@SunsetStudios.]

Awesome firepower

[@fortunatowenceslao5340]

Money well spent mate! Congrats to Australia.

[@andrewward6540]

I was expecting some form of APBC on this, such as an ATGM. Without this the Boxer will only be able to engage Inf and LAVs.

[@big-irish-git]

Hi Andrew. These vehicles are APC variants. Gun-car variants will have a 30mm cannon and ATGM. See story and specs here - www.contactairlandandsea.com/2018/03/14/boxer-wins-land-400/

[@andrewward6540]

@@big-irish-git Thanks for that. Two things I've noticed, is that compared to the AS-LAV the Boxer has both a larger silhouette and much less sloping armour (especially on the sides), both of which potentially undermine its combat survivability (re remaining unseen and receiving flanking incoming rounds). Increased armour protection is great, but remaining hidden as much as possible is probably far better in recon roles - unless of course these vehicles are primarily intended to fulfil a frontline combat role, and provide close inf direct fire support on ops. If my speculation is indeed the case, then the Boxers use in urban and close terrain is to be expected, which will necessitate better flank armour, ie a better sloping design as protection against RPGs &c. Its absence in such a scenario could well prove to be fatal.

[@big-irish-git]

@@andrewward6540 - I'm pretty sure they are looking at Iron Dome or similar active protection. As far as size goes - here's an article I wrote explaining why Boxer (and similar vehicles) are so big in the first place... issuu.com/contactpublishing/docs/contact62/18

[@wattlebough]

@@andrewward6540 Hi there, I'd recommend looking up the Lance Turret that will be fitted to the CRV. It will have the Israeli made Spike LR II ATGM (I wonder what it would take to upgrade to the Spike ER II model and add another ~50% range) as well as a 30mm cannon. From memory the hulls of the ASLAVs were made of aluminium and weighed about 13t where the Boxer CRV will weigh closer to 38t, a major increase in armour and mine protection.

[@FairladyS130]

@@wattlebough 38 tons puts in the light tank weight range, for that it needs a bigger cannon, something that could shake up a MBT.

[@lem096]

New car with an mg from ww2..... why can’t we refit this with CROWS 30mm 7.62 mg secondary and javelin from EOS (an Aussie firm). Why is it still fitted with kongsberg rws?....

[@big-irish-git]

Nothing wrong with the .50cal, no matter how old the design (the actual weapon is not that old). This all-purpose car doesn't need a weapon for a driver's course, and only the basic weapon for the first live-fire shoot. The first 25 of 211 vehicles are being built in Germany (necessary for technology transfer to Australia) - that's why Kongsberg. The other 186 being built in Ipswich will be fitted with EOS. The 'gun cars' will be fitted with 30mm canon and Spike anti-tank missiles.

[@lem096]

@@big-irish-git I hear you but the whole reason USA Strykers are upgunning, seems silly we still use 12.7 with the aslav weapons system.... I think bushmaster fills battle bus role well, why can't we use this semi APC/ifv to it's full capacity...

[@big-irish-git]

@@lem096 Sorry - I thought 30mm canon and Spike anti-tank was up gunning :-) LOL

[@lem096]

@@big-irish-git not all of them....

[@big-irish-git]

@@lem096 Obviously we don't need to up gun all of them. Some cars are for transport, some cars are for fighting/protecting the others.

[@alexlanning712]

I guess driver proficiency upgrade would be quite marked

[@davidmounier2116]

Would be good to see how it performs at pace. These clips all show it just crawling about. Biggest advantage of the LAV platform was pace as the ability to cover long distance in good time. Does the extra weight from size and armour upgrades reduce this capability?

[@big-irish-git]

Hi David. This was the first ever turret conversion course. The old saying "learn to walk before you run" applies. I'm sure we'll see plenty of fast-paced actuion from these vehicles after they've been full rolled out (in about 5 years) and over the life of type (probably about 30 years). Keep watching this channel for updates.

[@webcrawler9782]

Australia is really stepping up right now. Don't think the Emus stand a chance now

[@tiiBBzi]

I dunno, I'm sure there's a program in the works to bring those hardy bastards inline with 21st century tech too!

[@MosmMAli]

what a beast a lot of autonmy happening these days with the remote stations

[@alexlanning712]

love the over-under shooting

[@bobgoodworth1626]

No gun version, seems to be APC version,any gun trucks available.

[@montys420-]

Yeah there is a gun car version

[@montys420-]

But your right where were they?🤔🤔

[@ArisenfromDogma]

@@montys420- these vehicles (Batch 1) were bought to provide a deployable capability as the ASLAV and APC fleet aren't suitable for modern environments. A quick buy to ensure we have a deployable armoured capability short of tanks. The gun cars are being built, as far as I am aware. They'll make up most of the fleet.

[@big-irish-git]

@@ArisenfromDogma - nothing quick about this buy. Long project process (to make sure they get it right). The cars in this video are the first five so far delivered from a fleet of 211. 25 will be built in Germany and the rest in Queensland. See story and specs here - www.contactairlandandsea.com/2018/03/14/boxer-wins-land-400/

[@big-irish-git]

@@montys420- - not delivered yet. The cars in this video are the first five so far delivered from a fleet of 211. 25 will be built in Germany and the rest in Queensland. See story and specs here - www.contactairlandandsea.com/2018/03/14/boxer-wins-land-400/

[@lem096]

No 30mm lance turret shoots. Unsure why we still revert to so many kongsburg rws instead of a full lance 30mm fleet.

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

thats the APC variant

[@scotttucker3673]

Is this just one variant that we have purchased or have we purchased others? This variant appears under armed? Yes, I know they are recon, but just asking?

[@big-irish-git]

This version is strictly a troop carrier. A gun-car version will have a turret with 30mm cannon and Spike anti-tank rockets.

[@big-irish-git]

See this story - www.contactairlandandsea.com/2018/03/14/boxer-wins-land-400/

[@scotttucker3673]

@@big-irish-git Thanks for the response. Much appreciated.

[@christuxford4462]

Was that 2nd Cav? I remember being a guest at Holsworthy and being taken out in the M113s. They were able to get in and out of some steep places!

[@roomyskink1804]

must be 2/14 cause im pretty sure theyre the only ones with boxers atm

[@big-irish-git]

2nd/14th Light Horse Regiment (Queensland Mounted Infantry)

[@Wile_E._Wolf]

Yeah, bush chooks from 2/14 Light Horse

[@tiiBBzi]

Future AI Cavalry are in the works 😉 M113's are epic beasts and will live on till the end of the century! The "little" brick that could!