We have just started a new channel that will focus on fantasy and sci-fi battles, check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYerqpqZer-VoLs! If you are asking why we have decided to remake Manzikert, the answer is simple - the previous episode was focused on the rise of the Seljuks, while this one gives more context to the Byzantine affairs and ties in nicely with the events leading to the First Crusade, as we will see how the events transpired in the Eastern Roman empire post-Manzikert and what the diplomatic situation with Europe looked like. The second reason is the quality of the video - we try to improve our graphical work all the time, and this new video is better across the board in this regard. In short, our goal is to always provide the most context and best quality. This series will cover the First Crusade in as much detail as possible. Thanks for watching, and, hopefully, liking, commenting, and sharing :-)
@RoboticDragon3 жыл бұрын
I don't care why you remade it, love all things crusades and your idea to do it from a different point of view is a great idea.
@Omer1996E.C3 жыл бұрын
Why are you taking too long to upload early muslim expansion's new part. You said that you would upload it before 2022. We're still waiting for a new great K&G video about this
@thewarriorfrog3 жыл бұрын
Very good video thx
@Omer1996E.C3 жыл бұрын
@@dariusghodsi2570 no, it would be at most about the conquest of North Africa, west Africa, hispania, France and sicily. Which can be made either on one or two separate videos, cause they are wide topics
@Omer1996E.C3 жыл бұрын
@@dariusghodsi2570 add to that the conquest of the Caucasus, Northern India, central Asia and some conflicts on the border with China and the caliphates. And of course, they will be covered under the Islamic Ummayad conquest if he didn't include the abbasid ones
@niccolocaramori72883 жыл бұрын
The emperor was safer as prisoner than in his own palace, the irony
@C.viscione3 жыл бұрын
Manzikert reminds me of Adrianople in 378. The battles themselves don't seem very catastrophic, but what the Empire does after the battles sealed their fate.
@aaronmarks93663 жыл бұрын
Good comparison
@zippyparakeet10742 жыл бұрын
Exactly both the battles were strikingly similar. They are seen as a turning point not because of the Battle itself- like, sure they were defeats but the Romans had suffered far worse ones and pulled through- but the internal turmoil that followed.
@rabbani30942 жыл бұрын
Both battles were winnable there were unengaged reserves but they fled instead.
@mijanhoque17403 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how his “enemy” Alp Aslan treated Romanos with great respect and gave him a safe journey back home especially with any prisoners he wanted whilst giving him the finest clothing to wear. But Romanos own people and nobles constantly schemed against him and even caused his death. Such a bunch of pricks and why I’d hate feudalism and politics if I was emperor.
@ThoseColoniesAreMine3 жыл бұрын
The Byzantine empire wasn’t particularly feudal
@090giver0903 жыл бұрын
It looks like very clever and calculated move to me. Kill or enslave Romanos and you face Byzantine united under new management and maybe even out for blood to avenge the late emperor. Leave Romanos free and grab popcorn looking Constantinople going aflame with internal struggle.
@robleyusuf25663 жыл бұрын
@@090giver090 Seljuks were fighting against Fatimids and the Gaznavids so they could not engage 3 fronts at ones so Alp Arselan took this option that is the reason he didn't kill the emperor.
@090giver0903 жыл бұрын
@@robleyusuf2566 Yes. That's exactly what I've said. It was a calculated political move to reliably neutralise Byzantium for foreseeable future.
@thraker24623 жыл бұрын
Alp Arslan: "What would you do if I was brought before you as a prisoner?" Romanos: "Perhaps I'd kill you, or exhibit you in the streets of Constantinople." Alp Arslan: "My punishment is far heavier. I forgive you, and set you free.
@Tommykey073 жыл бұрын
Romanos is such a tragic figure. Did the best he could in a difficult situation and was screwed over by the people he depended upon
@Dragonman9983 жыл бұрын
-Alp Arslan: "What would you do if I was brought before you as a prisoner?" -Romanos IV: "Perhaps I'd kill you, or exhibit you in the streets of Constantinople." -Alp Arslan: "My punishment is far heavier. I forgive you, and set you free."
@michaelsinger46383 жыл бұрын
Arslan knew how treacherous Roman politics could be.
@omarmostafareviews13963 жыл бұрын
@@JJ-wv3pg cope harder
@jonbaxter22543 жыл бұрын
@@omarmostafareviews1396 lol
@ecurewitz3 жыл бұрын
Alp Arslan was a very smart guy
@nirvanic36103 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsinger4638 Nah he just meant a heavy blow to his honor
@FreaKCSGOHacker3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this top down format. Makes it so easy to understand while being highly engaging
@KingsandGenerals3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@calebitterman3 жыл бұрын
A video on the Byzantines without at least three blindings is considered a dull affair. 😜 Great video as always!
@KingsandGenerals3 жыл бұрын
Indeed the situation at the time could be described by some as: Not great, not terrible
@priyan6053 жыл бұрын
Is that a game of thrones reference?
@nikobellic5703 жыл бұрын
@@priyan605 "not great, not terrible" is reference from Chernobyl by HBO
@yenawirahma15973 жыл бұрын
@@priyan605 Which one you ask? If "...without at least three blindings is considered a dull affair", it is a reference to GoT Dothraki Wedding. If "Not great, not terrible", it is a reference to HBO's Chernobyl miniseries.
@craftyunicorn42912 жыл бұрын
@@priyan605 Yeah I think "dull affair" is
@michalipiperakis93803 жыл бұрын
As a Greek i have great respect for Alp Arslan in how he treated the Byzantine Emperor, Romanos, and feel shame and disgust at how the Byzantine Greeks treated each other and the lack of honour they had.
@lasera013 жыл бұрын
Power corrupts mind ..
@eynar146493 жыл бұрын
Every king or general who treated their defeated counterparts with respect deserves to be respected
@miraclemaker14183 жыл бұрын
It's often taught in Turkey that Byzantium was always plagued with infighting and treachery among themselves. Is that accurate to some degree ?
@YeahMan83 жыл бұрын
If it was the other way around, what Greek Emperor to have done?
@jaghatai_bulut3 жыл бұрын
as a turk, i gotta say, our culture may not be the best, i mean there are obvious dumb shit and quite negative things in it. But we treat guests and prisoners of war kindly. Mustafa Kemal also offered coffee to a greek general who i forgot the name of after defeating him in anatolia and assured his safety and well treatment in 1920s
@muhammadpasha3133 жыл бұрын
A point to be noted is that the constant infighting and Instability among the Roman nobles did not allow them to take full advantage of the throne succession crisis in the Seljuk empire
@flaviusstilicho3973 жыл бұрын
The Roman succession has been a problem since the days of Augustus when he became Princeps
@achimachi55193 жыл бұрын
@@shahriarhakim6673 every empire and nation
@freakrx23493 жыл бұрын
@@shahriarhakim6673 I highly doubt that. Didn’t new Ottoman Sultans have to kill or imprison their own brothers to prevent succession crises?
@imawormbeforeiamman60523 жыл бұрын
@@shahriarhakim6673 then came the golden cage
@darthvenator24873 жыл бұрын
Betrayal is the Roman way. And the fools seeded their own destruction.
@markregulus5563 жыл бұрын
Romanus IV had a tactically, operationally, and strategically well-grounded plan. However, the faith he had in his fellow commanders was a major flaw - because in the end they all betrayed him.
@masterexploder96683 жыл бұрын
Even a genius won't do much without right tools at his disposal. No way Julius Caesar would rise to power without core veteran legions fully dedicated to his cause. Everybody would bail out at Pharsalos and that would be it. Kinda what happened to Pompey actually, who was forced to make a stand and declare a battle due to political pressure, while majority of his army wasn't so experienced, and plenty of other ethnicities could make communication difficult. And he wasn't called Magnus for nothing, he knew his job.
@geordiejones56182 жыл бұрын
@@masterexploder9668 Pompey's downfall was in part his own doing. He broke the rules when it was convenient and then defended then when it wasn't. Most Romans of the time did the same but Pompey and Caesar both were quite egregious about it. I'll never understand why Pompey sided against Caesar though. They could have split the empire and ran it just fine as partners and he could have sat back and let Caesar do most of the annoying work, but instead he tried to be more than he was. Caesar marched on Rome because he truly believed he could win and do it better than Sulla had, leaving behind a stronger state than a weaker one. And with some luck he was right, because his adopted heir took his scheme and ran with it. If Pompey had won Rome would have disintegrated into a bunch of warring states within a century. Augustus saw a completely broken system and was able to give it a make over, even if he just grabbed most power for himself and made it impossible to take it away.
@masterexploder96682 жыл бұрын
@@geordiejones5618 I'm only saying that Caesar had great soldiers and second in commands to back him up. Reinforcements from Antony did prove important in Greece, and his troops held position and executed a manouver which allowed them to drive back Labienus cavalry and then collapse on Pompey. And even Caesar couldn't avoid the treachery, because he died quite a violent death after all. Still, Roman system proved itself to be surprisingly durable, though it needed a couple of makeovers along the way, obviously. Now imagine if it was Romanos, then reinforcements never arrive for some random reason, Caesar's plan doesn't work because his secret line responsible for execution decides to bail out and his center is the one which is collapsed on and destroyed by Pompey.
@ericsandrade2 жыл бұрын
@@masterexploder9668 well he would certainly have won this battle if his general didn’t flee like a bitch
@feelthepony2 жыл бұрын
@@masterexploder9668 being the richest man in the world at the time was probably of some help...
@nicholasfowler89823 жыл бұрын
Didn't think that Alp Arslan would have treated Romonos with such humility after his defeat wow!
@hamzahsamah4558 Жыл бұрын
Before that Sultan asking to Kaisar what is you will do if me like you situation right now??The Roman Kaisar said all about bad matter and Sultan said i will release you and take guarante money.after kaisar arrival at his capital city he saw hot politic situation...The Kaisar better than Andres Dukas that Run away from battle ground..
@DestroyerOfSense0003 жыл бұрын
On Romanos IV: "His enemies martyred a courageous and upright man." - John Norwich
@masterexploder96683 жыл бұрын
Romanos IV tried, he really tried, but with deck so stacked against him, he never had a chance. What a genius it would require to be in his position and pull this off.
@marko_pasa3 жыл бұрын
Great video. It should be known that Manzikert was not even a "great" battle in terms of armies' sizes or their losses, and Alp Arslan did not have the intention of conquering Anatolia, he offered a treaty in return for a tribute. But thanks to the corruption and political schemes among Byzantines, the battle had great political consequences.
@Montechristoss3 жыл бұрын
Indeed people think that's was a catastrophic defeat for the Byzantines in terms of army loses but that's was not the case the 20000 strong army left before the battle and the rear guard left without a fight so it was a catastrophe from a political perspective futhermore this battle start a ten year long civil war for the Byzantines which was the real disaster
@elzem13883 жыл бұрын
@@Montechristoss cry
@cliffordjensen80643 жыл бұрын
Very nice point. What seemed like just a bad defeat, turned into one of the turning points of history. This happens more times than a person would think. Take the naval battle at Yorktown during the Revolutionary War. The French fleet fought the British fleet to a tactical draw, but it was a strategic victory because it kept the Brits from resupplying or removing their trapped army. This caused that army to surrender and King George to sue for peace, which led to the creation of the United states. Thank you France!
@EgyptianMuslim763 жыл бұрын
@@---ow7us We Muslims won and Anatolia is still under Muslim hands. Inshallah the rest of Europe will follow soon one day.
@jacolitethepumpkin7653 жыл бұрын
@@EgyptianMuslim76 ok buddy
@Gman9090082 жыл бұрын
So happy to have found Kings and Generals years ago. Sadly The History Channel turned away from documentaries A LONG TIME AGO. Thank you OffyD and the entire Kings and Generals team! History and knowing it is so essential for tomorrow’s success. You are doing the world a favor. You all are awesome!
@stanleysmith75513 жыл бұрын
Alp Arslan: I won't kill the emperor, rather l will treat him with respect. Michael Vll: All right... I will do it myself!
@Tigerofthemountain3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@sounakchatterjer41583 жыл бұрын
I was literally just watching the old video of the battle a couple minutes back,nice timing
@KingsandGenerals3 жыл бұрын
Now you can play a fun game of: Spot the difference
@toddchavez82743 жыл бұрын
@@KingsandGenerals a lot more interesting detail both information-wise and visually. Absolutely stunning.
@sounakchatterjer41583 жыл бұрын
well the biggest one gotta be a sneak peek at Komnenos
@Smurfonshroom3 жыл бұрын
Harald Hardrada even blinded a Byzantine emperor! Maybe there should be a future episode dedicated to him
@rhzyo3 жыл бұрын
If only they treated their successful military leaders properly
@richraichu40683 жыл бұрын
Invicta is going to do it
@bartrijken15773 жыл бұрын
I prefer that Kings and generals make the video about harald
@HalalHistory3 жыл бұрын
10 hours ago lol
@WolfclawTheGreatwolf3 жыл бұрын
@@johnluis2593 patreon supporter
@Eazy-ERyder Жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE this series. Thank you for these explanatory documentaries on Byzantine and Crusader history.
@MauricedelTaco3 жыл бұрын
This story is crazy! Super interesting. Big thumbs up 👍
@KingsandGenerals3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@EloiFL3 жыл бұрын
Gràcies!
@KingsandGenerals3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We appriciate it
@bnbgezgini3 жыл бұрын
The Seljuk scout approaches to Sultan Alparslan and speaks in hurry and anxiety... Scout: Sire, the enemy is almost three times crowded than us and approaching towards to us... Sultan Alparslan: And we are approaching them too... This is the stand of a great man who already knew losing was not an option. He already won the war on his head. I am proud to have such an ancestors...
@mertnecati8752 жыл бұрын
@Alexis Palaiologis Lol not at all..and I guess Turks won enough battles against Romans.
@orçunizm2 жыл бұрын
@Alexis Palaiologis What you call withdrawal, we call the turan tactic :)
@valtermagno20563 жыл бұрын
Valeu!
@rossi82913 жыл бұрын
Dude my brain is overloaded with info because you have even uploading so frequently, absolute animal, cheers!
@zockerkiste51233 жыл бұрын
Sweet I needed this Series :) First Crusade is always fascinating Love for the cutters and the team
@thesaltysoviet50183 жыл бұрын
Manuel Komnenos is defeated and captured by a foe who so far hasn't lost and then manages to convince said foe to swap sides.. this guy must have like 100 speech and 10 charisma!
@dominicguye80583 жыл бұрын
I know, I thought that was incredible
@sercan60343 жыл бұрын
Yeah. In our sources, his name is mentioned as Erbasan. Seljuk officer. He became a Christian and chose to live in Byzantium. He was not on good terms with Alparslan..
@tahsinalphaskoylu8279 Жыл бұрын
After the war, our famous historian Anna Komnena talks a lot about these side changes. His father, Alexios, often gave the Turks land from the Balkans, they were not very willing to fight against their kin, but they were useful against the Latins and the Pechenegs.
@Ankaranin_Baglari3 жыл бұрын
The Battle of Manzikert was not only one of the regional events of the Mediterranean, but a war that prepared the end of the Byzantine Empire...
@Felipeurrea-zb8kv9 ай бұрын
No, the four cruzade destroy the empire, after the komnenians kick ass of mongols barbarians
@semih77477 ай бұрын
@@Felipeurrea-zb8kv Nope. Turks had already defeated the Romans countless times before the 4th Crusade. They won almost 90 percent of the wars they fought.
@judsonwall86153 жыл бұрын
Romanos’ is one of the most compelling, heartbreaking stories of betrayal I’ve ever come across in history. A man who put it all on the line for his empire, survived a devastating defeat and capture by an enemy sultan. Only to then be betrayed by his own people, blinded and paraded through the streets like a dog, and sent to die on a remote island. Sickening, and the Romans got exactly what they deserved in the aftermath, losing Anatolia. Here’s a quote from a Roman senator, businessman, and historian writing a couple years later about Michael VII, the emperor who betrayed Romanos. His sentiment just about sums it up: “What do you have to say, Oh Emperor? You and those who crafted this Unholy decision. The eyes of a man who had done no wrong, but risked his life for the welfare of the Romans! He COULD HAVE waited it out in the palace, without any danger, and shrugged off the toils and the horrors of military life. But as for YOU, Oh Emperor, what even Was this order that you gave? Who, exactly, was to be deprived of light itself? This MAN, who behaved towards you as a father? Who set aside imperial power and yielded it to you? Who replaced the imperial purple for rags? Who was ill and helpless? Who had need of healing treatment and comfort? Who had renounced Everything and was sick and oppressed with misfortune? Who was a Broken reed, and wasted away by streams of tears running down his face? YOU, nevertheless, will give into your Rage. Your frenzied and insatiable LUST to rule. And show No respect either for his monastic status or for your mothers breast, which you shared with his sons - your brothers. One way or Another, a day Will come when an Evil eye, titanic and chronian, will turn its gaze upon YOU…and push your fortunes to the same, Evil fate.” Yup
@agrippa56432 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, well done. Its hurting me seeing the fate of that man aswell. The words of ` we can trust ourselfs alone` comes true once again. The more i learn history the more i agree with Octavian Augustus. You must be extremely intelligent, and refuse to be human. Show no mercy, do no mistakes, and manipulate people and you will be invincible. Byzantine Empire by Romanos time was a mess. I don t blame him he could do little. Romans in that empire we re fewer and fewer, and the greek mentality came to light. In other words infighting. Everyone was for themselfs and nothing more. I remind how Hadrian once made the panhellenic league, just to see how Athens and Sparta got into fight after some months. Imagine giving full autonomy to a nation, just to see it infighting after a matter of months, yeah that fucked up we re some greeks. My opinion, the Roman Empire died once with Justinian, since he was the last emperor to speak latin and stay true to its roots with all of his heart.
@judsonwall86152 жыл бұрын
@@agrippa5643 I disagree about the empire dying with Justinian. You could make an argument it died with the Arab conquests, but I don’t agree with that either. The medieval Romans “Byzantines” were the direct descendants of the Roman legacy. In my mind, Basil the Bulgarslayer was as Roman as it gets. Diogenes was Roman. Komnenos was Roman. But I agree the infighting got the best of them. A product of their more republic form of monarchy.
@cengizsogutlu3 жыл бұрын
-It's a bird! -It's a plane! -It's the Seljuk Türks!
@jasonstillwater72503 жыл бұрын
I miss Bill so much :(
@1mokay9113 жыл бұрын
Yeeey
@dinmalikogli59833 жыл бұрын
Alp Arslon⚔️
@Alghi4513 жыл бұрын
🦃🇲🇳 ,why your name gengiz? I don't like it
@cengizsogutlu3 жыл бұрын
@@Alghi451 He was great warrior of Tengri our common ancient god
@filipmilovanovic67353 жыл бұрын
That was an amazing and interesting story ! I can picture it clearly in my head, for each part, like a greatly directed movie or series ... Especially the part with convincing the enemy general to switch sides!
@alvirarahman10103 жыл бұрын
This is why we adore Sultan Alp Arsalan. He was the most noble in character and in conduct. Treating the Byzantine Emperor with the respect that even his own Empire never showed him. This battle was crucial as Anatolia was now wide open for Oghuz Turks to move in, and eventually beginning the era of the Ottomans. Great video.
@apalahartisebuahnama76843 жыл бұрын
You only see the good side, Turks entry into the Islamic world turn what's already a combination of Arab governance and Persian bureaucracy into aggressive and destructive militarism build upon slave soldiers, the decline happened right after that.
@mohammadarshadalikhan59733 жыл бұрын
😇😇
@imawormbeforeiamman60523 жыл бұрын
@@apalahartisebuahnama7684 spot on
@cagracar43163 жыл бұрын
Where are you from?
@theark48333 жыл бұрын
Seljuks culturally And being an Iranian language, for this reason, many of the Mongol-Turkish atrocities were not at the government level. Also turks used buy arab caliphate as slave tribe and they lost they savage cultures and assimilated into arabic(aka islamic)/ iraniian culture
@currentreview19803 жыл бұрын
you renewed and uploaded this video for 3rd time during your channel history. the first video uploaded by you about manzikert hooked me to your channel. back than your skills were beginner level.
@dinolandia89783 жыл бұрын
Ottomans: Let's strangle our sons, brothers, uncles, and cousins. Byzantines: Let's blind our sons, brothers, uncles, and cousins.
@perchitaxrozoldo75373 жыл бұрын
Different methods Same energy
@bretalvarez30973 жыл бұрын
They learned from the best
@ameershahul29683 жыл бұрын
@@Expandable12 naah ottomons were Muslims but still they shoudnt have dine that
@masterexploder96683 жыл бұрын
One of the little things Ottomans did to lay claim to the name of Rome (Rum).
@aliyaser76983 жыл бұрын
@Rapstick Europe destroyed the churches in the Middle East, are they considered Christians?
@izmiryldz69953 жыл бұрын
Congratulations . It was really good. Great video.....
@KingsandGenerals3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@muzammilkhan3777 Жыл бұрын
I am about to watch the last episode of Alp arslan series, so decided to go through this documentary. Great info thanks!
@jeffgould45413 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the history of the Crusades!!! Very interesting stuff!!
@kenbahr7235 Жыл бұрын
I love all the insight into the politics of the time that you explain very well and how it shaped the military/wars and region of that time. Good stuff!
@nowayman14063 жыл бұрын
Plot Twist:Sultan deliberately released the eastern roman emperor to ignite civil war When the civil war broke out, Turkish horsemen spread all over Anatolia. With a single stroke, the Roman presence in Anatolia almost came to the end. Even the Arabs and Sassanids could not achieve this in their peak.
@turukbodunucuntunudmadmkun20882 жыл бұрын
This would have happened anyway, because in the past the nomadic Turks were very good warriors and skilled archers. But you are right. There was also a political aspect to pardoning Diogenes.
@turukbodunucuntunudmadmkun20882 жыл бұрын
@@Letnistonwandif You made me laugh. The Turks defeated the Crusader armies, which were much larger than themselves, many times. The Crusader armies consisted of the entire European army. In addition, Atilla, who brought the Roman Empire to its knees, is also Turkish. The Huns are a Turkish tribe.
@turukbodunucuntunudmadmkun20882 жыл бұрын
@@Letnistonwandif The majority of the army consisted of Turks. Also, your numbers are not correct. Both the Seljuks and the Ottomans are Turkish states. Its founders, dynasties and armies are directly Turkish. The official language of army is Turkish
@turukbodunucuntunudmadmkun20882 жыл бұрын
@@Letnistonwandif Huns are Turks. The strongest available evidence points to him being Turkish.Chinese sources write the continuation of hun for the Göktürks.
@turukbodunucuntunudmadmkun20882 жыл бұрын
@@Letnistonwandif Even the origin of the word Hun comes from Turkish.
@brainblox56293 жыл бұрын
After seeing so many videos of Byzantines against Turks, could we see some positive relationships among them? Like John Axouch, the best commander in Byzantine ranks, who was actually a Turk? Or the Byzantine-Göktürk alliances during the Byzantine-Persian wars (around 627 etc.)?
@turukatrak17213 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of Turkic authorities in that era , some of them are in allience with rome and some not ( Narrotor describes some of the oghuzes defected during manzikiert ought the be mercenary pecheneg turks , pechenegs are a branch of turk from oghuz clan as well as seljuk turks) , as you can see in the map there Pechenegs an Uz'es are nice pair of them , as well as early era Bulgars(before slavicized) and Cuman Kıpchaks ( Polovetsians known to be 2 major virus with the pechenegs in the Russian chronicles), Or in most of the early medieval maps Hungary written as Tourkia and the kings and royals described as Türk by scholars , not just in this time era but also during Ottoman era Turks used to fight with each other ,
@Kaiyanwang823 жыл бұрын
Alexios defeated the Normans thanks to the Turks, among other things. It's shown in one of KG videos.
@cortexz2k5842 жыл бұрын
Once upon a time, the Huns and the Byzantines were very close alliances.
@orhanemiratlgan9478 Жыл бұрын
True pronounciation of his last name is " Aksuh" which is still a common last name among Turks. It means: " white water"
@Basileios19742 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Very fun to watch! The formation of the Byzantine army displayed in the video is an ALL cavalry formation for up to 5 or 6,000 cavalry tops! Byzantine divisions were - at least at the battlefield - either infantry or cavalry but no mixed units. A cavalry formation was usually supposed to have 3 battle lines. Two battle lines of cavalry were only used when there was an infantry formation behind it! Byzantine infantry played a part in the capture of Manzikert but isn't mentioned in Byzantine sources during the battle against Alp Arslan at all. Likely because they left the field with the Byzantine rear guard. In history there are several cases that even previously victorious armies fled the field when the commander died or was considered to be slain. Another point is that according to Attaliates - the only eyewitness who wrote about the battle - the Allagia (evidently he refers to the Tagmata) were not present at the battle but sent a head to Aklat by the Emperor.
@LordHoth_903 жыл бұрын
Yet another favorite campaign in Age of Empires 2. They really picked important battles well.
@GarkKahn3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they could make an aoe 2 playlist I would love that
@LordHoth_903 жыл бұрын
@@GarkKahn I like this idea
@MCMLXXXVICCXII3 жыл бұрын
I've spent too much time around that region; Ahlat and Manzikert. Actually, the plato can be considered as non-fit for the swift cavalry movements because of its small to mid size/sharp edged volvanic rocky terrain. I think its not a randomly chosen place to pitch a battle. Especially, with a considirable force holding to the south of Manzikert will force Seldjuks to prevent their classical hit-run tactic and pin them to the west of mount Subhan. I think, Sultan Alp Arslan saw the tacticaly brilliance there. Felt that he fell upon a trap. If there were no betrayal among the Roman ranks he would face a bitter end there; therefore he asked "What if you win over me what would you do to me? to the Romanvs. Consequences of this battle can be considered historical cource changer for all humankind.
@calidone76613 жыл бұрын
topography changes through centuries
@MCMLXXXVICCXII3 жыл бұрын
@@calidone7661 Certanly it is but i think things must not be changed drastically in that area coz terrain is low soil content and solid rock maily. Forces of nature can create miracles in such time span but there were no records of that area changed in time too. A pastoral, rocky terrain with low soil content mainly for centruies as far as we know.
@venom68853 жыл бұрын
@@MCMLXXXVICCXII selciuk khazars turcic was invincibles warriors and tacticians war planned
@Dennell_Mount_and_Blade3 жыл бұрын
@@venom6885 I've also heard they could shoot lightning bolts out of their arse. Some will get this reference ;).
@MCMLXXXVICCXII3 жыл бұрын
@@Dennell_Mount_and_Blade William Wallace? :))))
@davidhughes83573 жыл бұрын
It just gets better and better. Thank you!
@anatolianwarrior12903 жыл бұрын
AlpArslan Khan: What have you done if you win the battle and Capture me? Emperor Romanos: if i win I will tie you to the back of my horse. Alp Arslan: My punishment was far heavier. İ forgive you and set you free.
@mumaraslam97113 жыл бұрын
Amazingly described.
@KingsandGenerals3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@srikrishnak1963 жыл бұрын
Finally! The climax of Seljuks that we needed,the prequel being göktürks and sequel being the Sultanate of Rûm!
@tatarcavalry23423 жыл бұрын
indeed this war needed this rework
@angusyang59173 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the better sequel, the Ottoman Empire!
@ibrahimmustafa24813 жыл бұрын
@@angusyang5917 not a sequel, but a new show entirely 🤣
@Stimmevon703 жыл бұрын
@@ibrahimmustafa2481 True nut Malik Shah expands his father's empire, and that's being glossed over.
@angusyang59173 жыл бұрын
@@ibrahimmustafa2481 Well then, a spinoff that became its own show.
@beachboy05053 жыл бұрын
Great video 📹 Alp Arslan was a clever commander, he set the Byzantine Emprorer free.
@iseeyou50613 жыл бұрын
Basil II get so much credit and for a good reason but i was wondering there will be a time where you cover it's previous emperor John I Tzimeces. His reign never live long enough and it was start with bloody usurpation which stains his name till this day but he use his short reign to the fullest was a great emperor and had he not suddenly die we probably would sing his name instead of Basil II
@crescent84183 жыл бұрын
As a Muslim I would say John I was a gigachad
@geoousp3 жыл бұрын
Theofano took good care of both of them...
@JohnDoe-mb3qv2 жыл бұрын
90 second ads get skipped I can handle 60 seconds. This int network which is why I'm here. LOVE this channel
@ayhantutukcu50303 жыл бұрын
15:50 pecheneks were also oghuz Turks like Seljuks
@ayhantutukcu50303 жыл бұрын
@@revivalist355 Because they were mercenaries.
@doopers1253 жыл бұрын
They were Turkic mercenaries that often allied with the Byzantine empire as mercenaries even joining the Byzantine Roman army at the battle of Manzikert. However they were annihilated by a combined force of the Cumans another Turkic peoples and the Byzantine empire under Alexios the 1st.
@khagan59513 жыл бұрын
@@revivalist355 Mercenaries. They switched sides realizing they were fighting kinsmen.
@tylerellis90973 жыл бұрын
@@doopers125 Nah they were permanently finished off by John Komnenos at the battle of Beroia in 1122.
@doopers1253 жыл бұрын
@@tylerellis9097 Yeah that’s true both the battle of levounion in 1091AD and the battle of Beroia in 1122 resulted in the Pechenegs complete disappearance. The it must be said that both these two battles were probably one of the greatest military victories the Byzantine empire had ever achieved.
@turkishemir57353 жыл бұрын
Respect to Arp Aslan. A man which contributed a lot to Islam. May Allah grant him paradise. Great content as always.
@Daktilotarih3 жыл бұрын
İnşaallah
@whispz25903 жыл бұрын
@Figaroo: Barber of seville he should have threw flowers on upcoming enemy right?..
@whispz25903 жыл бұрын
@Figaroo: Barber of seville why does it have to be asia or iran specifically? africa shows all. like i mean ur logic sucks. like how did rome got all these lands lmao? all by defensive attacks? :d
@whispz25903 жыл бұрын
@Figaroo: Barber of seville are you an idiot? am i the one who said "its islam after all"?? so we dont talk about Selçuks
@Unemi134 Жыл бұрын
Amin
@hannibalbarca29283 жыл бұрын
"I am the son of free people and a member of the kingdom of the Huns." Seljuk Turk Sultan Tuğrul Beğ Source: Abul Farak History, C.1, p.299
@cortexz2k5842 жыл бұрын
ı miss you asian hun khaganate white hun empire european hun empire
@stanbatakarata6081 Жыл бұрын
Yep brother Great clan Dulo.Bulgarian Emerator clan.Memember.Great Warrior and Emperator Atila.Bulgaria Empire live .🇧🇬 🇭🇺
@kmvoss3 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. Thank you K & G!
@berke6573 жыл бұрын
Alparslan asked: What would you do if you caught me? Diogenes: I used to tie it to my horse's tail and drag it or put it in an iron cage and take it around the country. Alparslan: my punishment will be greater, I will release you. Welcome the Civilization.
@northernlegolas3 жыл бұрын
Yuppii!!! Alexiad period videos started!! Thanx K&G
@ДжекИтальянец3 жыл бұрын
Gotta give it to turks, releasing emperor to cause instability was a stroke of genius.
@andreuortega4253 жыл бұрын
The arsacids already did this to the Seleucids. Hostages could be more important alive than dead.
@ckjoshny3 жыл бұрын
Same thing the Germans did with Lenin, releasing him and shipping him off to Russia to seed revolution
@christhomson89243 жыл бұрын
god bless the ottomans
@darthvenator24873 жыл бұрын
@@christhomson8924 Hell no.
@kuvayinizamiye8192 жыл бұрын
@@darthvenator2487 hell, yes
@Louis-ji3sn3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that was awesome! Looking forward to more Crusader documentaries!
@Bojanglesz893 жыл бұрын
Poor Romanos IV. He did what he could to protect the empire and personally lead armies into battle against the Turks. But what was his reward for all these efforts? Left behind, double crossed and blinded.
@aaronws95612 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget to add dead as well.
@123telamon2 жыл бұрын
i dont understand what he means by blinded ? during the entire episode they were all blinded ? how ?? can someone explain
@TheNEOverse Жыл бұрын
@@123telamon Literally plucking their eyes out. The Byzantines are absolutely nasty about their punishments.
@슬라바우크라이나헤로 Жыл бұрын
@@123telamon Byzantine law prohibited blind people from becoming emperor. Hence, it was common to have one's rivals be blinded to eliminate opposition
@HIS_MIL_GLOB3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for other interested video.
@thewolf98162 жыл бұрын
Cant believe I'm 23, and this is the first time I've actually thought to look into the crusade. Going in almost ENTIRELY blind. Excited 🙂 If anyone has other good content lmk
@KingsandGenerals2 жыл бұрын
It was a special we planned, but a couple of team members got Covid, so we pushed it to another date.
@robbabcock_3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, again! Thanks for all you do.
@eynar146493 жыл бұрын
I'm so proud of my compatriots from Azerbaijan -- Ilkan Gambar, Kamran Maharramli and Nargiz Isayeva -- who are a writer/historian, an editor and an artist respectively for this great KZbin channel!
@atillajashar20093 жыл бұрын
These are intresting videos it will help me when Im gonna learn about ottomans and seljuks in history class nice videos keep making more :)
@WolfclawTheGreatwolf3 жыл бұрын
Somehow you always release episodes that are related to things I currently am learning about. Been listening to the history of Byzantium podcast and I just got to the siege of Antioch so this isn’t too far behind where I was. Great video! Can’t wait to see more
@richraichu40683 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love Robin's content and I finally caught up with him two months ago, thanks to his irregular uploading habit 😁 I'd pay from my wallet to see K&G and Robin collab, possibly for an extra long Byzantium video. God I'd love it.
@WolfclawTheGreatwolf3 жыл бұрын
@@richraichu4068 goddddd I want this so bad, alongside a Mike Duncan and k&g collab on Roman history if it’s possible
@honeybunch57653 жыл бұрын
So happy this channel came up in my suggestions. What an interesting channel.
@jaydesigns12363 жыл бұрын
According to Attaleiates, the emperor was led away, pleading for mercy, to be blinded by an "inexperienced Jew" who required three attempts to blind the emperor while he "bellowed like a bull". Per Attaleiates, "when he arose, his eyes were drenched with blood, a pathetic and pitiable sight that made everyone who saw it cry uncontrollably."
@mertbayulger6203 жыл бұрын
That's horrible, such a grave end for an emperor
@michaeldriskell20389 ай бұрын
Thank you once again for an excellent and informative presentation!! I only knew that the battle was lost and I thought the Emporer was killed!! But you have given details beyond what I've read about before. Thanks again!😊😊😊
@michaelsmith80283 жыл бұрын
My heart couldn't handle this video.
@Kinghassz3 жыл бұрын
I feel the same as a Muslim when I watch videos about Muslim Spain.
@lorzilyat35283 жыл бұрын
@@Kinghassz he is probably feeling bad about Rome not Christianity
@rishabhraj20773 жыл бұрын
There is nothing like muslim Spain.. it was hispania. A province of western Rome.
@natos23343 жыл бұрын
@@rishabhraj2077 muslim spain is al-andalus…… or you are ignorant or you’re trying lie about history
@rishabhraj20773 жыл бұрын
Oh.. al andalus and cordoba!! Yeah.. but that was not Spain as whole just a province of Spain.. why would I lie.. I am indian .. i just admire roman civilization 😅...
@SamadArcot3 жыл бұрын
This is so well done.
@AhmedMohamed-pg2bb3 жыл бұрын
16:53 that is such an outrageous flex
@mikej.chrisoulakis82503 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always
@huseyincobanoglu5313 жыл бұрын
Great documentary, thank you Kings and Generals Team!
@KingsandGenerals3 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@ericconard77182 жыл бұрын
Enjoy this channel sooo much!
@Turkmen_Islam Жыл бұрын
My ancestor Alp Arslan 🇹🇲😎
@alexanderborschel21353 жыл бұрын
Fing yes! Been waiting for this for like 2 years!!
@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus3 жыл бұрын
OH YEAH! Bazz Battles' series' worthy successor! Finally the First Crusade at KnG, and not just the 3rd and 4th!
@stooge389 Жыл бұрын
I love at 16:22 and 17:29 how every Roman unit leaving the fort makes a "POP POP POP POP POP" sound lmao
@borisdickinson3 жыл бұрын
this video is far more entertaining and educational than our one sided history books. thanks for the high quality content.
@loupiscanis94493 жыл бұрын
Thank you , K&G .
@danielconde133 жыл бұрын
These tragic episodes where a nation faces its demise always remember me of Camões famous words: _Um fraco rei faz fraca a forte gente._ (Portuguese, for "A weak king makes weak the strong people").
@1212-m6b3 жыл бұрын
Alp - soldier Arslan - Lion in Turkic. He lived up for his name.
@TheLightlessMoon3 жыл бұрын
no. alp means valiant. the first name has to be adjective and soldier is not an adjective to complete the phrase.
@1212-m6b3 жыл бұрын
@@TheLightlessMoon yes, you are right it means brave, fearless. However it also means a soldier. Soldiers had to possess those qualities so it has second meaning of the word which is adjective in order to portray bravery of a soldier. In Uzbek Shaxarda qancha alp bor? In Turkish Sehirde qac alp var? Askar or asker is arabic origin word. So before arabic influence Turks used the word alp for soldiers.
@mazakantc55323 жыл бұрын
alp literally means heroic.. not soldier.. er is soldier..
@turukbodunucuntunudmadmkun20882 жыл бұрын
@@mazakantc5532 Alp; It also means soldier in Turkish.
@sergiogutzalenko35203 жыл бұрын
Roman history was way to filled with civil wars from the very beginning. Easy to survive when your powerful not when you growing weak or one battle away from becoming weak compared to your neighbors. Amazing video like always!
@freakrx23493 жыл бұрын
All of this started with the decline and collapse of the Roman Republic.
@Times_Ticking3 жыл бұрын
amazon historic content. Thank you!
@salehmehdizade3 жыл бұрын
Great grandfather Alp Arslan Khan gave us our home. Forever greatfull 🇦🇿🇹🇷
@mammi76992 жыл бұрын
🇹🇷🇦🇿😎☝️
@Sonofearth-h3w5 ай бұрын
Turkmen
@ShahruxMahmudovАй бұрын
🇺🇿
@salimnasr54773 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks
@manGIMPness3 жыл бұрын
Wow guy! I was literally just looking all over youtube for this exactly this just yesterday! Excellent upload as always, thank you!
@KingsandGenerals3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@mostafa_hafiz3 жыл бұрын
Pls make a second part it has been along time since you guys uploaded that one
@calidone76613 жыл бұрын
Another nice job! Alp Arslan's biggest ambition was to conquer rich Syria and Egypt. But in the same time he needed to find new homeland to Turkmens who caused chaos and ruining Seljuks' reputation in Islamic lands. Turkmens also were raiding Anatolia for near half century. Battle was of tactical brilliance, Alp Arslan splitted Byzantine center and wings with his mobile nomadic cavalry to eventually flank and annihilate Byzantine army. (Byzantine pov more focuses on internal betrayal btw, as in this video).
@GeorgiPopivanov3 жыл бұрын
Great videos on the events leading to the 1st Crusade!
@ghostedits35863 жыл бұрын
Cagri bey oglu Sultan Muhammad Alp Arslan
@ArabicLearning-MahmoudGa3far Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@brokenbridge63163 жыл бұрын
Got to have some sympathy for Romanos IV he was just trying to do his best for the empire and was in the end betrayed for it. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
@tubularrex74283 жыл бұрын
Great video
@trewytrew63573 жыл бұрын
Seljuk Turks: *exist* Byzantine main objective: *survive*
@090giver0903 жыл бұрын
Both of them when some small beylik start expanding: *Why do we hear a boss music?*
@jjj-qj8lu3 жыл бұрын
@@090giver090 if youre talking about ottomans they were the descendents of Seljuks and they started to expand way after than the fall of seljuks
@sktt14883 жыл бұрын
Ottoman empire is child of Seljuk empire lol.. They are not enemy but father and son.
@mihailnikoloff25543 жыл бұрын
''The Bulgar Slayer'' , ''The Bulgar Burner'' - I like how the population that lived and rebeled on these lands were only the Bulgarians.
@GeoBBB1233 жыл бұрын
Tell that to your western siblings in Skopje
@mihailnikoloff25543 жыл бұрын
@@GeoBBB123 They create all types of mental gymnastics to deny it.
@БоянБогданов-ю6о3 жыл бұрын
I imagine the Ned Stark meme: " If I hear for another guy with "Bulgar something" nickname.
@LionKing-ew9rm3 жыл бұрын
We were all waiting for this!
@abdulwasey64943 жыл бұрын
Very good effort.
@DannyPhantomBeast3 жыл бұрын
Any plans on covering the Moor conquest of Southern Europe?
@nokran10543 жыл бұрын
Good analysis and graphics. Also wants to hear moving horse feet voice during army movings
@somedude10683 жыл бұрын
"They (nobles) didn't listen to me when i was alive why would they listen to me after my death" Last will of John III Sobieski, King of Commonwealth.