FIRST DRIVE: BYD Sealion 7 - Should you cancel the Tesla Model Y? | Electrifying

[@Darkmatter321]

My lease on a Model Y run out last June and I switched to a BYD. There is absolutely no comparison in terms of quality, handling, over all feel and value for my money. I'll be purchasing this BYD at the end of my lease.

[@specialkcitizen6263]

So you're excited about a bog standard looking car which is observably very boring to drive.

[@ensteffo]

@@specialkcitizen6263 Sounds like tesla stock owner got salty?

[@starlord8973]

Why is Tesla Autopilot STILL not better? I prefer VW ID.3 Travel Assist v Model 3 Performance 2024 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGqkcmiCqqZ0gLs

[@starlord8973]

@@specialkcitizen6263 Why is Tesla Autopilot STILL not better? I prefer VW ID.3 Travel Assist v Model 3 Performance 2024 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGqkcmiCqqZ0gLs

[@wezzman1]

​@@specialkcitizen6263 having a pop at other car designs as being boring and defending Tesla is "King" hilarious 😂😅😂😅... dude, wrong fight.🤦🏽

[@Thor-f3c]

My neighbour bought the BYD Seal, he asked me to check it out and I was surprised how beautiful and well built it was. Very sleek and sporty. Don’t forget it’s been designed by head designer of European cars who helped to design Audi, Lamborghini and Alfa Romeo.

[@jogana6909]

In fact, there are a large number of European designers working in China auto companies. China auto companies are willing to offer competitive salaries.

[@Thor-f3c]

@ Yes, in order to be above the game they must hire experienced designer and engineers. When you have money you hire the best like all other big global brands do.

[@Jaw0lf]

BYD are definately giving us great EV's and their quality is better than many legacy makes. Loved the collab video!

[@MrJMHP]

Did you ever driven a BYD?!.. What do you know about the car quality during time?!.. Buy it and then speak!

[@anton3320]

I used to own a Tesla Model Y but found it lacking in so many areas. Test drove a Sea Lion and wow so impressed, I had to order one. Amazing value.

[@CampGareth]

On the lack of physical controls I find the voice assistant good enough for basics. "Hi BYD, set the temperature to 23 degrees", "turn on the rear demister" etc.

[@jeremylucero3688]

You may also use the three finger swipe on the screen. Horizontal for temp controls. Vertical for fan speed

[@AR-zr1om]

You two are a really good combo, the banter didn’t feel forced at all. Interesting car too…

[@urbanstrencan]

Actually doesn't look to bad, bit generic, but made for it purpose. BYD is doing really great job bringing us practical EV for the masses. Can't wait we get BYD officially here in Slovenia. And BYD Shark pick-up just perfection ❤❤❤❤

[@specialkcitizen6263]

It's very generic, let's be honest about that.

[@hermesliteratus882]

@@specialkcitizen6263 Just like Toyota.

[@MrJMHP]

@@specialkcitizen6263 It's chinese can

[@Ryalonor47]

Being the owner of a Model 3 and having rented a Seal if this is on the same build quality with the Seal I would take it over Model Y any day. Prices too sound high but actually cheaper than the equivalent Ys.

[@mahonjt]

Maybe, only maybe in the US would I consider the M3 over the Seal because of the autopilot which is obviously extra. But by any other measue I'd take the Seal. Indeed I have.

[@DerekMartin-hy6vv]

Don't buy any musks shit!

[@jefftyt]

Apart than the build quality, what can you say about the comparison of model Y and Seal? How is the performance, software?

[@michak.2229]

It's quite rare for tesla owner to admit that any other car may be better. Much appreciated.

[@Ryalonor47]

@@jefftyt I cant compare Seal and Y since Seal is Model 3 equivalent. Software was on par, drive aids on the same level since we don't have FSD in the UK. It was quiet, far more quiet than my first gen Model 3. Performance was really good with only complain that regen was not great. Seats were better, comfier with more support on turns. Boot was smaller though. Overall and considering the price if Seal was available when I got my 3 I would have gone for the Seal.

[@spudsquad]

Haha as someone from the US, hearing her say "Do up all the windows" reminds me how hard it is to do voice controls for an international company. It nailed it though!

[@HDproductionnal]

The reason why the rotating screen is a thing cause in the Chinese market, a lot of the owners download apps from the browser not from BYD store apps to use. Among those apps, some only work in portrait mode. The screen detects which orientation works so it will automatically adjust to it.

[@jefftyt]

This car has just launched in malaysia this week. After watching your video I am seriously considering it

[@andrewallen9918]

Test drove a BYD Seal yesterday; rotated the screen using the button on the steering wheel to portrait mode; actually works well for navigation. My desire for 'removing potential things to go wrong' is intrinsic so still not convinced it's a great idea.

[@fatdoi003]

then don't use the door to get into the car..... those hinges may fail

[@daisysmithson7558]

My husband rotated the screen and it went black. He was wearing polarised sunglasses and the screen is polarised.

[@Chutsey]

Suppose ideal for watching TikTok videos or KZbin shorts with portrait mode.

[@vp272]

Love this duo! So balanced

[@jamesw5719]

Very entertaining and great rapport between them, more please!

[@mgmarrison]

If BYDs organisation (or lack of) was even half as shabby as you described, the way Nicola and team have managed to salvage a video of this quality is nothing short of amazing. Good work!

[@tobybridson]

I like these guys reviewing together, makes it fun and enjoyable. Fun to watch

[@James-BB70]

Fun as always, the car seems pretty quite and do love BYD. A year ago I hadn't heard of them but just taken delivery of my Dolphin and its a great car

[@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl]

Game over for Tesla!

[@vwgolffancarreviews7111]

Just return it absolutely hideous and horrible looking vehicles I hate byd

[@vwgolffancarreviews7111]

I love teslas I don't hate chinese-made cars especially byd

[@jogana6909]

I also like dolphin

[@martinwood9014]

Lovely to see you both, two of my favourite reviewers

[@ThePrimateKing]

Love my seal, liking the improvements here for rear heated seats and phone charger cooling!

[@michaelgreen5515]

Was good banter between the two of them not that Nic needs anyone.

[@howieb2001]

Each to his own but I find the childish jokes, funny voices and gurning detract massively from what otherwise would be an interesting video.

[@tooflesstesla]

13:26 "You're a short arse, aren't you?" "I'm not a short arse! I'm 5'6"and a half, thank you very much!!" 😂😂 I prefer this pair's banter compared with the banal banter that we get with the other presenters (IMHO). 😊👍

[@yeahyeah4807]

How's the banter with the camera off

[@wezzman1]

​@@howieb2001 dude, load of fun aren't we. Why you think carwow is doing so well? we want entertainment, if I want a boring review I read a what car magazine.

[@howieb2001]

@@wezzman1 I find Carwow unwatchable but very happy that you enjoy it.

[@peterming]

Nicola and James: the duo we never knew we needed.

[@JmoulFrancis]

A brilliant colab video. Reminds me of the better times of car reviews on youtube.

[@derekw9358]

Its my first time seeing the duo for car review, I really like the both of them! The humors, the way of naratting... Amazing.

[@owenmcdonald5922]

You guys work great together. I'd enjoy more of that.

[@shaywhelan1]

Two of my favourite reviewers

[@AutoSocialUK]

I was kind of gutted I wasn’t invited to this one…. Now I’m relieved 😂 great to see Batch!! ❤ fun video guys!

[@anthonystevens8683]

No worries Tish. Hopefully you will get to do a UK review when it reaches these shores when you have a longer time with the car. I look forward to your review.

[@tonywei423]

The vertical screen will make the navigation looks much better with more roads display in front of you, also more cameras imagine when you turn, reverse or parking, also suits some apps to see better on vertical screen, like QQ music, you can see full lyrics on each sound.

[@MigV40]

Love seeing Bach! I haven’t seen him in years!

[@z00h]

Byyyatch in da hizzouse. You realise he has his own KZbin channel, roight?

[@Fastwunz]

He has his own channel

[@MigV40]

@@z00h what’s it called because I can’t find it?

[@MigV40]

@@z00h never mind I found it lol

[@wokeupandsmellthecoffee214]

@@MigV40 you cant say that without telling us his channel name ??

[@HenryPalfrey1963]

Great review from you both, Batch is always entertaining and his reviews are always first class. Well done both of you.

[@EcoHouseThailand]

In the Seal you have buttons on the steering wheel to control fan speed and temperature

[@telmo6777]

This car is amazing, BYD cars are top quality.

[@CarbonMotorsEU]

Nope, portrait mode for the screen is NOT silly. It is giving more "real estate" for Google Maps which typically is North centred in driving mode. Flipping the screen in landscape can give you more convenience for other things.

[@tomitykkylainen6905]

Exactly that. I flip it to portrait in my Seal when doing "serious navigating", for example, in bigger cities where it's nicer to see coming turn early enough. In all other occasions I have it in vertical position.

[@emilyblade9676]

Everytime she reviews a BYD and mentions she knows of no one that uses portrait mode and think its silly, the same comment runs through my head 'How many people do you know as to compare to the total sales of BYD customers'.

[@Audios81]

But you cannot use it when using Carplay or Android Auto. So sorta negates the pro of having it in that position.

[@TassieEV]

Weird how you had to share as I watched another video from a reviewer from Ireland and he had exclusive access to the car he was in and managed to get it onto the autobahn and up to 225km/h. Great to have you and another journalist working together and in a fun way thanks to both of you. Touchscreen like many EV's these days, luckily not all. Alot of SUV's well all ride similar to this as they aren't saloon/sedan form factor. It also has acoustic glass in some areas to help keep it quieter. Unfortunate about sharing and organisation of the event but you two did a great job with the video. :)

[@misterhoeflak]

Oh, you and the Batch! That’s a treat ❤ Also, the back of the sealion looks very much like the backside of the VW iD5.

[@tomnewton440]

Duo really worked

[@JoshuaMcTackett]

Guys the 7 is to signify its fully electric. Shark 6 and Sealion 6 (called Seal U for sone reason where you are) came out in Australia and they’re PHEVs 7 signifies fully electric when there’s an ICE alternative

[@alfrredd]

but why 6 and 7 and not 1&2 or 2&3, etc?

[@fatdoi003]

@@alfrredd then why not 6 and 7?

[@jayc5325]

Love the double act… more please!

[@josephcullen2512]

"Five foot eleven when I'm feeling confident" hahah funny and I know what he means. I can relate

[@disarchitected]

Sealion is because it’s BYD’s ocean series of cars. The 7 is Chinese manufacturer speak for mid size cars. Xpeng P7, Nio ES7 sort of a similar size to this. Larger cars have larger numbers. BYD Atto 3 is smaller. The number is a somewhat universal moniker for size and position in the pecking order.

[@Mobile_Dom]

also, for those wondering, the screen doesnt dim when in portrait, its got a polarized, and its interfering with the ND filter on the camera, but it does mean if you are wearing sunglasses in the car, it might be unusable in portrait for you depending on the glasses

[@TruebirdBR]

Esperando essa belezinha no Brasil🥰

[@Anti-socialSocialClub]

Loving the colabo

[@nssimpson]

Finally a BYD with a nice interior

[@wezzman1]

Don't take this the wrong way Electrify, your reviews remind me of carwow. Not the standard boaring reviews, your reviews are informative and great banter, love it👍🏼

[@michaelmacdonell4834]

The key thing, for me, is the BYD battery technology. It just beggars belief that they seem to be alone in using a (non-explosive) derivative.

[@hwf090909]

Be hold, more to come with a much higher energy density while keeping non-explosive, they are just around the corner, 3-6 months from now.

[@mahonjt]

I use portrait mode in my Seal all the time - with split screen and certainly with navigation.

[@janosvaradi1663]

What do you put on the other screen though? You cant put the AC screen there, which would be the most usefull

[@mahonjt]

@@janosvaradi1663 I use navigation alone, or alongside Spotify with the split screen mostly. Longer runs I'll put AA on so I get my messages, but run it in the background. AA feels like 'Plan B's in this car compared with my VW.

[@CeeOmega]

Fancy seeing James here. 🥳

[@chinonsomichael9839]

Just found your channel yesterday i have waited for your videos on carbuyer

[@ClintSimonsen]

Thanks for the vid, I did enjoy the banter.

[@jansenwilder1335]

Base on design, its up against the Cupra Tavascan, if price isnt an issue, while in China , we could look at the Avatr 07 Suv running on Huawei software.

[@dentricrio]

Duo reviews are the future

[@kongming2005]

You don't know who would use the LED screen in portrait because you haven't done enough test and research into it. Work a little harder then you know. If it is in landscape the cameras around the car will only show 2 sections, if it is on portrait then it will show 3 cameras section. If you park in a situation where is it too near to other structure or anything you wouldn't want to touch to be scratch or drain to be fallen into, having the 3 views are very helpful. Other that many reviewers complain that there is no button to control aircond and must use the screen to control it...... you can use 3 fingers to pull up or down to control temp and left - right to control fan speed.

[@phangmoh]

Ford uses portrait screen on their Ranger truck and it is absolutely well executed. If BYD can allow AA & AC to work on portrait mode, it would be great especially if a split screen (up & bottom) is also implemented.

[@MrMangeced]

We are getting ours in Mars, the model Y is horrible over pottholes etc and this one has such a cosy feel inside our Tesla feels like un Ipad, it was a really nice suprice

[@antoniogarciagomez2326]

HULLO ! VERY.....VERYY GOOD YOU TWO.....AND VERYYYYYYY GOOOD CHINES CAR......AL FINAL TODOS JUNTOS CON LA INTERNACIONAL......CHINA.......POR SUPUESTO ! Saludos Cordiales desde Móstoles,Madrid,España ! Antonio.

[@SuXc-dw4ro]

The seat is among the best, comparable to Lexus and RR. MB and BMW have lousy seats to put into context

[@sinoevc]

The point you made is very interesting and has sparked my thoughts.

[@alangravy27]

It was great to see a double act review with natural banter. Please can we have more reviews like this? The car, no thanks. It could be on my list but it's too expensive and too bland. The BYD Seal is insurance group 48. How much will this be to insure. Yes, I would have a Capri without doubt. Skoda? the dealers in my area are part of the same company and universally useless in my experience.

[@J.siciliano_]

You can change the indicator noise in the screen to normal. You can also change the tightness and sharpness of the steering from the screen. By not stating this I believe you are scaring off some potential buyers.

[@skywire5595]

Beautiful car

[@viratnimtiparat]

What is the price? It has just been launched in Thailand recently. The price here is 32,000$

[@philipc239]

Instead of one single command say closing or opening the window, i believe its AI could handle a series of commands within a given time frame (30s?) Next time try: hey BYD close the passenger window, turn on the driver heated seat, temperature set at 24 and fan speed at 3, navigate to the airport... and it'll do as you command.

[@Ohdearyme-x3d]

James was amazing 😂❤❤❤…KZbin social media team let him down by totally not acknowledging him.

[@matthewemoore3879]

Great double act! great review

[@SWR112]

Credit for the other guy playing his part brilliantly as the embarrassed school kid still to be picked. 👍 love the air vents for the phone charger - designers catch on eventually when joe public can spot things like it in two minutes flat. Too BYD hire some ex Lotus engineers to fix the handling 👍

[@UgglemannenFTW]

Check thier Yangwang U8 on thr Nürnbergring, they do know how to do handling....

[@tooflesstesla]

13:26 "You're a short arse, aren't you?" "I'm not a short arse! I'm 5'6"and a half, thank you very much!!" 😂😂 I prefer this pair's banter compared with the banal banter with the other presenters (IMHO). 😊👍

[@fastingo]

@electrifying #byd #BYDsealion #newEV #newcar The big question here, as is with all other BYDs, and for that matter most other Chinese EVs - and it's quite disappointing that this most important issue is not even marginally mentioned here - is how truthful is BYD's PROMISED range vs the ACTUAL range this and their other models will give you. Did you actually test the Sealion models' ranges and verify BYD's claims? Why is this not discussed AT ALL? This is BY FAR and still the most important factor in the decision making of buying an EV. I'm so adamant about this issue because it's well documented online (and I've have had plenty of my own experience) that BYD ruthlessly overstates the range of their models: often, a BYD EV gives you just 60% of the promised range stated right there on its display, even when driving extremely gently (velvet foot on the accelerator) - and if you throw in a few hearty accelarations along the way you're quickly down to 50%. I dub this: "BYD's fake kilometer range". What they're doing, seemingly in good tradition of the often fantasy like story-telling by generally many Chinese manyfacturers when it comes to product prospectuses in ruthless pursuit of more profit, is nothing short of shameless: in the case of the BYD Atto 3 Extended Range, for instance, they claim they give you 480 km range on a full charge, which is displayed (and sometimes even going up to 500 km!) on the screen at 100% battery charge - but what you get is actually a measly 300 km at the most. How does that conform with the BYD display? They simply base their displayed range on what I call the "BYD kilometer", which is in actually only 0.6 REAL kilometers! So after you've driven, say, 150 (real) kilometers, the BYD display has spooled down a whopping 250 (fake) kilometers! And you can imagine - aside from realizing that you're being cheated out of nearly 50% range, which must be particularly tragic if you already purchased the car (can you return an EV if it turns out the manufacturer was untruthful about its most vital features?) - this is REALLY annoying and frustrating on the road when now you always have to worry about making the next EV charging station and constantly have to convert the "BYD kilometers" into real ones, trying to align your remaining range on the BYD display (stated in "BYD kilometers") with the distance to the next charging station or any other destination pinned on Google Maps or similar, which of course is displayed in real kilometers. If you blindly trust your BYD's promised range and attempt to drive, say, an entire 450 real kilometers nonstop, as displayed on you navigator, and happen to refrain from checking your actual remaining range on the car's cluster, you WILL get stuck on the road with an empty battery! Why is this not called out by reviewers like you? Might it be that incentives from BYD outweigh a fair and square review..? This is counterproductive as it permits some EV manufacturers that aren't subject to EPA or WLTP certification to boldly lie about their cars' ranges unchecked for the sake of driving up sales. Your comments, please. Or update your reviews after driving the cars you review sufficiently long.

[@fastingo]

Have you verified if the Sealion's range checks out for real? I appreciate your reasonably detailed review of the BYD Sealion 7 that attempts to shed a truthful and fair light at this EV model and its pros & cons. The big question here, however, as seems to be with all other BYDs - and it's quite disappointing that this most important issue is not even marginally mentioned by most EV reviewers - is how accurate (or truthful) really is BYD's PROMISED / ADVERTISED range vs the ACTUAL range this or any of their other models will give you in actuality. Have you had a chance to test the Sealion models' ranges so far and verify BYD's claims? Have you compared the actual kilometers you drove against the "spent" kilometers displayed on the range display of your car in real time? Assuming that you, too, have noticed a considerable deviation between your Sealion's range display and the kilometers that your car ultimately delivered, how do you reconcile BYD's advertised ranges with your own experience..? I really wonder why this topic isn't discussed in more depth as this is surely BY FAR still the most important factor in the decision making process of buying an EV.

[@jefftyt]

Placed booking for this car today, but honestly I am not completely sure should I go for performance or premium. They are around 4k usd difference in my country

[@DavidBoag-zy8ym]

you can change indicator sound to a proper tick tock

[@gathonar]

The bouncy bit when cornering reminded me of an old Vauxhall Astra my Dad owned in the 90s, lol its was poor, but I would need to take a test drive before purchasing one.

[@davidfogg1845]

needs buttons for the heater controls

[@timscott3027]

Strange that you both found it to be quite wallowing and the steering not all that, despite the work they did integrating the battery into the chasis etc.

[@benrgrogan]

The Chinese consumers like cars with very soft suspension and very light steering.

[@NicolaMs007]

Am definitely liking it thr Sealion 7...I would definitely have this over a Tesla Y, if this came to Australia I wou I d definitely buy it making it 3 BYD in my fleet of all electric vehicles

[@avil8686]

Change to sport mode to stop the wobble

[@pcr8918]

Manos did well filming the two of them from the dashboard.

[@mikeymike1792]

I'm so curious about the event now. I feel like Nicola is the sort to always give the benefit of the doubt, so if she thinks it was badly organised, how bad was it?!

[@robsmith1a]

2.2 tonnes - they should have called it the Walrus

[@philipread8733]

I prefer a high seating position. I'd probably prefer it.

[@Pottery4Life]

Nicola and Batch work well together. Do that again please. (on a proper review)

[@Lovejazz01]

Not sure why people think there is not enough room in this world for Tesla and BYD, every other electric car means doom and gloom for Tesla and it will be bankrupt and go out of business . I would think that legacy automakers should be more worried about BYD. But , you know, you have to put Tesla in the title for those clicks….

[@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl]

Tesla is a sinking ship!Its over!

[@GDM22]

Little bit obsessed about them are you. The anti Tesla stuff is tiring.

[@Lovejazz01]

@@GDM22 yes the anti-Tesla stuff IS tiring, I agree…

[@Slynell1]

@@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl haha far from over mate

[@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl]

​@@Slynell1So where is the average 50% growh?There is Zero growh with 50% less Profits per Share!

[@electrichome6933]

Voice control have been standard in Teslas for years

[@Cobnapint]

I'm not a short arse! 🤣 Brilliant

[@realAamirShahzad]

Its a beautiful car

[@Morganpo]

You both are amazing, you should team up much more to do reviews.

[@davidmason1919]

Was all going so well until you said €58k

[@chillstep4life]

One word. Tariffs 😅

[@谢枫-t3k]

请把区别性关税壁垒关闭再来说价格，中国汽车进欧洲连定价权都没有。北美洲直接130%关税。

[@worawatsr9803]

This car is only 26k in China. The EU is scamming its own citizens!

[@turnblake]

Esse carro será lançado aqui no Brasil no início do próximo ano.

[@BHBeckenbauer]

If you car review has to be crashed by anyone then Batch is a great choice!

[@ianthomas8743]

A bit of "woolarding" at the end OTSOT😊

[@hoanduy3922]

how's about the clear roof, will it sun burn?

[@davidpearn5925]

The best BYD Seal (RWD) is merely £30k o/r in Australia. Oh well...... BYD DID admit that their profit margin in Europe IS 90-105% .....so i guess it's down to 'protection'......... right ?. Thinking of migrating ?.

[@henvan8737]

The last thing I want to do is say, Hi BYD every-time I need to perform voice commands. Just give me a button to press to start this process.

[@rikimarizard]

It does have a button

[@radio73s]

Does it have adaptive type suspension, can you select a stiffer mode to adjust body roll?

[@stevejones7485]

That fella looks abit like David Walliams 😊

[@Danielzsy]

Cheery developed new safe battery.

[@matpat2636]

Batch! 🙌🏻

[@ricco123tube]

It's ok, but is ok good enough for 45K?

[@aeroline11]

In Asia outside China the low spec Sealion 7 is selling 33k pounds. The extra 12k pounds likely the tariffs imposed by the UK gov.

[@benrgrogan]

​@@aeroline11UK tariffs are only 10% which will be the same (or less) than most Asian markets.

[@davec110]

@@benrgrogan Its likely the UK importer wants more of the cake. This car starts at 20k Pounds in China.

[@benrgrogan]

@@davec110 yes that has been the case since imports from China began. They are sold with only a tiny profit margin (often a loss) in China because of how competitive the market is. The manufacturers have used the less price competitive UK/EU markets as a way of making back some of that profit. Plus import costs, import taxes, local taxes etc.

[@davec110]

@@benrgrogan BYD and Tesla is the only car manufacturers in China that makes a profit on all their cars. BYD is less but still profitable due to high vertical integration.

[@johnbentley6925]

Hey BYD ‘I’m really cold’ ‘ok increasing temperature two degrees !’

[@MrTrull1]

Aw. Beardy Batch! ❤

[@stevenjones916]

Why is the UK price higher than the EU price ? Surely the EU's tax on Chinese BEVs should mean they are charged more.

[@jansenwilder1335]

It's always different countries, different tax rate on cars, In Singapore, a new car cost a bomb thanks to our government tax plan.

[@z00h]

@@jansenwilder1335 comparing UK to Singers to make a point on price vs EU (which UK was part of and is also still in Europe, where Singers is half a day away), makes no sense fella.

[@benrgrogan]

Last I heard the Chinese car brands were mostly absorbing the EU's tariff for at least the short term. The EU's own study said BYD would need a 100% tariff to even have a profit parity with the EU brands.

[@stevenjones916]

@@benrgrogan If that is the case and it doesn't make a difference to what the consumer pays, I hope the UK Government slaps them with the same taxes as the EU.

[@benrgrogan]

@@stevenjones916 Someone I know who used to work quite high up for one of the Chinese brands told me one of the reasons their brand had kept prices high, is because they were trying not to spook the European Governments. It will be interesting to see if prices now drop in the countries that haven't added tariffs. We've started to see it from MG. In Both the UK and Australia they've been adding big discounts whilst in the EU they've kept prices at pre-tariff levels.