First Light Fishing Secrets

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

Page 8 of the regulation synopsis states: " it is illegal to: Use a light in any manner to attract fish, unless the light is submerged and attached to the fishing line within 1 m of the hook." I'm not a lawyer of a judge, my interpretation of this regulations may be different from the interpretation of a DFO officer.

[@allancrow134]

Fish your feet first. My buddy Peter Kerr taught me that years ago, he is a Steelhead fishing phenom. One of the best tips ever. :)

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

I have filmed coho holding in a foot of water. Just like steelhead, they're short and don't need much water.

[@stevo19911991]

You’re doing a great job of videos Petr.

[@leelavid1477]

Thank you sir

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

Welcome

[@krzysztofr8598]

Great video, sometimes I get coho or 2 or bytes before float fishers start casting

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

Yup, the fish can see really well in the dark, but it's a great way to lose lures unless you know the spot well.

[@alvindouglas-perez48]

Thanks again Peter. Really learning a lot.

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

Glad to hear it. That was really the intent of this series, point people in the right direction so they don't end up snagging.

[@iancollings5047]

Thank you for mentioning people being blinded by headlamps, this aggravates me the most.

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

Yeah, that one is common sense once you spend some time on the river, but not obvious to new people.

[@rahmiuluc8]

I really like your channel!! You’re not trying to promote stuff like some other vedder based channels do in a sneaky way to make people buy stuff. I catch 10 times more fish with simple yarn more than I catch with beads in same amount of time. You’re just sharing your knowledge and experience in an honest way!!! It’s more educating than any other vedder channel!! Thank you!!!

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

I appreciate the feedback. I don't think it's wrong for video creators to promote things from their sponsors as long as it's done in a genuine context. For me this is strictly a hobby so I don't need sponsors. KZbin revenue pays for my camera gear and that's enough. My hope is to have a positive influence on the fishery and inspire people to respect the fish.

[@rahmiuluc8]

@@petrhermanadventures9509 It’s crucial for newbies like myself to learn regulations, etiquette and how make this sustainable for future generations!!! Reading regulations doesn’t provide some of the details that you do!! Thanks for shedding some light on these grey areas!!

[@mlinder85]

Thanks for all that info Petr, definitely learned some new tips.

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

Glad to hear it!

[@JesseBouma-m9t]

Peter is the Goat

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

Thank you for the kind comment.

[@aksyonov100]

Thanks! That's pretty much answers my question why I get nothing during the day light multiple days in a row. And explains why most of the people choose to floss at this conditions

[@jordanwinch]

Ha, tell me about it. I've put in countless hours between 9 to 12 while I have friends going for an hour 1st light or an hour before dusk and they catch their limit!

[@joevales6775]

Very good tips Petr. I caught my first coho last week and it was quite close, within 10 feet. I'm watching your technique so I can better float fish. Thank you.

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

That was a tricky spot with a narrow eddy and short drifts, maybe not the best example. Congrats on your first coho.

[@ShenpaiWasTaken]

Great video as always! In my opinion 1 in 10 is pretty decent. Something interesting I ran into last year. I showed up at a spot a bit before first light, and there were already a couple people there waiting for light. The sky becomes light and I go to make my first cast and then someone who was already waiting yells at me to wait until I can see my float (which I can). I guess he was just an older person or something but we ended up just waiting another 10 minutes for him to start casting but it was an odd experience.

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

When you're with certain groups of very experienced coho anglers, nobody really wants to be the one to make the first cast. That's because those first few casts are the most productive and if someone jumps the gun they're already starting to make the fish nervous before everyone else starts. It's kind of one of those complicated unspoken rules that varies from spot to spot and group to group. You did nothing wrong, but I see where the other people were coming from. I'm often the first one to start casting, but I make an effort to cast quietly and fish the water right in front of me.

[@Graceclaw]

Do y'all ever have issues with bears or cougars, walking through trails or sitting on the bank in the dark?

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

10 years on the Vedder I have seen a cougar once and a bear three times. Never had any issues or heard of any. That's actually surprising because the river valley is mostly forested.

[@michaelfonak9667]

Come up to pulaski ny and fish salmon river all etiquette right out the window. Why i avoid it till steelhead and fish tribs

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

Salmon fever can bring out the worst in people, but I think if there were more videos explaining proper ethics and etiquette things could improve. I wish more influencers would talk about it instead just posting "watch me catch stuff" videos.

[@thomasszeman9663]

Any quick tips on landing more coho. I can hook into them just fine but most times they just get off after a few seconds?

[@justinyen8290]

pull up harder, really set that hook. Also bigger hooks might help. What size do you usually use?

[@thomasszeman9663]

size 2 hook@@justinyen8290

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

Lots of pressure. Coho are fairly small, so they're not likely to break a 10 or 12 pound leader. Basically winch them to the net as fast as possible. Also understand that it's normal. Coho are very acrobatic and head shake violently. Much easier to land a chinook even though they pull harder. My hook up to landing ratio this year is about 50%, worse some days. Today I lost 3 fish and landed none.

[@secondlife5704]

I was at the Vedder last year and across the river a couple guys were using glow sticks or attached to floats or something. I thought it was the coolest thing. So for a good week or so I was on the hunt for glow sticks with no results..most of the research ended up being one that you put on the end of your rod tip or for underwater catfish fishing etc. Petr as a long time subscriber of yours, can I get a hint or the name of the glow sticks that you use? Maybe a video..anything to help find these ones that people use in BC. Cheers!

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

here's an Amazon link for the ones I use: There's enough for several buddies, as each stick lasts 2 to 3 days. www.amazon.ca/4-5X37mm-Fishing-Luminous-Fluorescent-Lighting/dp/B074PQWG79/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2CSA4NB92PCE&keywords=glow+sticks+for+fishing&qid=1697310038&sprefix=glow+sticks+for+fishinig%2Caps%2C128&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

[@stewbeef2825]

@Petr how can someone fish with you? Educational purposes 😊

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

I might get into guiding when I'm closer to retirement, but not for another few years. I'm always helpful when I see someone struggling or using the wrong things. For now though, these videos are all the "educational purposes" I can give back to the fishing community.

[@Billfiishing2261]

question mis clip keep or release ?

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

The regulations state that there has to be a healed scar in place of the adipose fin. Sometimes there is a little nub, or sometimes there is just a little tatter of fin left over. I keep them, some people release them, in the end it comes down to a judgement call by the DFO and different officers have different opinions. On some Coho the adipose is quite small, so I definitely don't want to steer people into trouble. If it's doubtful release and get the next one.

[@benmoerman1317]

Petr, great video, thanks for posting. What do you think about casting and retrieving spoons at first light? That way you don't need to see a float and can start exactly 1hr before sunrise. Do you think this would have the same level of success?

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

It works, some people catch all their coho on the spoons and they will bite early. The main problem is that it's an easy way to lose some spoons. You have to know your spot very well to do it.

[@samcandolfi5462]

Why is an orange top float better in the day?

[@dukeumnukem9747]

Or pink. Chartreuse is very hard to see in light. Especially those nice sunny days.

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

Try them both and you will see. On a small river either way is fine, because you never have to look too far for your float.

[@JesseBouma-m9t]

Peter herman for prime Minister

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

Thank you for your support, but I wouldn't wish that job on anyone :)

[@lungchan1729]

What ?!! In BC you guys can't fish at night? In QC, we can fish anytime. Why such a rule? I mean I don't get more catches fishing at night. How to attract them with light? I have a headlight and all it does it scares them.

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

The regulation is in place because people poach salmon in the dark and it's hard to police. We're allowed to fish at night whern there are are no salmon present.

[@Canadiandawg]

Daylight Hours - means one-half hour before sunrise until one-half hour after sunset. You can only fish for salmon in Region 2 during daylight hours.

[@jackofallfishing]

Daylight hours from the DFO Glossary of Sports Fishing terms: "The hours that start one hour before sunrise and end one hour after sunset. Sunrise and sunset refer to the times for those events calculated by the National Research Council of Canada."

[@Canadiandawg]

​@jackofallfishing I see what you mean, and yes it does say that but their definition is incorrect.

[@jackofallfishing]

@@Canadiandawg daylight hours change each day and by location, this is the easiest way to make it consistent across everywhere in the Pacific region regardless of time of year.

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

naturally the DFO definition would be different from everybody else's definition. That's the way they roll, why make things simple when they can be complicated. DFO says one hour.

[@jblazes83]

Fishing with glow stick on the float has been around on the vedder since the 90's atleast. It is not new. It probably is the last thing that needs to be watched for by CO's .

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

I believe it's perfectly legal, but there is a line in the marine regulations that seems to contradict that. Like you said, the concern should be the proliferation of snaggers on our rivers rather than obscure details.

[@borzoorostamirad]

In dark fish can’t see your presentation so what’s point to fish before sunrise

[@vanxuanxt]

No parking if you don't show up before sunrise

[@jackofallfishing]

Fish have very good eyesight can can take better advantage of UV light, which is largely invisible to us but more visible in low light conditions (or what we consider no light). They also use light from the moon and stars to navigate. If you arrive at a river early you will often hear them moving in large schools up the shallower parts of rivers because they feel so comfortable to move around in low light conditions.

[@iancollings5047]

I think you would be surprised how well fish can see at night, particularly if there is a full moon. The best Seatrout fishing in the UK is done by fly fishing in the middle of the night and the fish see the fly silhouetted against the night sky.

[@JohnJames.]

I like spinners in the morning, they feel it

[@UnRaT3Dx]

Lol you are complexly wrong. You do realize there is a reason why most baits/lures are U.V. Fish see it

[@johnswart6120]

Why use glow sticks and cast before you can actually see if you yourself say it’s better fishing once you can start to see? Boredom isn’t a good enough reason to start spooking fish before they are going to bite. I always throw rocks at peoples floats if they are using glow sticks. Too dark they can’t even tell where the rocks are coming from 😂

[@nick248]

I personally wouldn't throw rocks. If you are using roe the fish smell the roe. It's not super productive but it can on occasion get you an early bite. I used to be angry about it but after learning about the regs and witnessing what can work its not far fetched for me to do that. I personally don't most times. But they are legally allowed. And most times at first light it's nice to see the float for that first hour to not cross lines

[@petrhermanadventures9509]

I knew there would be some replies like this. I understand your point of view, I just don't agree with it. When I glow stick, nobody casts over my line, when I don't it happens regularly. Every spot is different, in some spots I know I'm not spooking anything by quietly drifting through close to me. Other spots definitely having one guy wade out and start lobbing 15 minutes before everybody else is very poor sportsmanship, so is throwing rocks though, because that spooks the fish more than one float.

[@rhaythangz]

why throw rocks lol.. you can politely tell them whatever reason you don't like about using glow sticks ..no need to be hardcore lol. i never use it but when i'm fishing for first light and a lot of people beside me...i like it even bettter as i see where his float is and that way we won't tangle up. not all people have a good sight at first light.