'First Principles' Looks At The Education Of Founding Fathers | Morning Joe | MSNBC

Author Thomas Ricks in his new book 'First Principles,' looks at the founding fathers and their educations and how that education helped shape America. Aired on 11/9/2020.
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[@DavidJ222]

As a devout student of stoicism and Greek philosophy, we've learned from Socrates that a democracy is only as good as the education system of any society. Trump's election in 2016 is proof the our education system is in desperate need of improvement. Like math, and English, classes in critical thinking skills should be required in middle school, through high school, and college.

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The true and TRUTHS. God wins. Thank you so much again sir.

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How to keep a republic sustainable? Educate the people.

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230 years is a good run, time for an update. One that's Trump proof!

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Abolish the Electoral College and make D.C. and Puerto Rico states.

[@livliv4169]

My thoughts EXACTLY!!!

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GOD BLESS JOE BIDEN

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Will he give us Medi care for all?

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Will he pass 15 dollar minimum wage?

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Will he end American foriegn intervention?

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What's Joe's policy on evictions...he never mentions them

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You think God liked Joe's Libya policy... Tens of thousands murdered

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We almost lost our Democracy!!! We almost had a Dictator!!! These REPUBLICANS are not the America I want!! Georgia make us proud and take Mitch from power!!!💪👏🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@Dawn-dx6sr]

Indeed, democracy was on the ballot. This win was more significant than some people know.

[@illssolution5720]

What a doll! Amazon has his book on pre-order until the 10th. Thank you Tom, for this research and authoring such a book!

[@philipcormier8388]

I've learned more about everything on the internet than I have in 12 years of school

[@flea10x6]

says quite a good deal about you school / curriculum and teaching in engaging your interest and brain. my apologies.

[@ed2867]

Wow. So profound and thought provoking. Our forefathers/founding-fathers really did try to think things out (knowing that our USA 🇺🇸 might not be a success). Good news our USA is a success story for the world. And, we have the opportunity to make more of a success of all that we have. Go. Go. Go USA.

[@stephenhatt742]

IT IS NOT ONLY A GREAT DAY FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BUT A GREAT DAY FOR YOUR ALLIES .... MY COUNTRY ( CANADA ) BEING ONE !!!!!!!!! I THANK GOD THAT MY PRAYERS WERE ANSWERED FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE & THEIR COUNTRY !!!!!!!!! IT HAS BEEN HEART WRENCHING TO WATCH HOW THIS MAN & HIS INNER CIRCLE HAVE DIVIDED THIS ONE STRONG COUNTRY !!!!!!! GOD BLESS YOU ALL AS YOU BEGIN TO HEAL YOUR COUNTRY !!!!!!!!! ZOE

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[@floridagal150]

Well said. Amen!

[@susanchandel967]

I do believe that the iroquois confederacy had some influence on the founding fathers....just as the the first nations methods of war fare had a bearing on how the colonists won the revolution.

[@BananaJoseph]

Smart guy and spot on. Got to read the book.

[@lowkey2923]

I didn't realize that Santa Claus was a writer -- cool!

[@sirene7465]

👍😂

[@jamesgoacher1606]

That was incredibly interesting and I think informative. Now to look at our - lack of constitution - in the UK and wonder why?

[@rgwak]

The system of checks and balances is a great idea and all, but if the republican party is going to fight tooth and nail to subvert that, what good is it really? 🤔

[@andreaperry938]

Perspection is wonderful. This makes sense because everyone is opinionated and hopefully somewhat informed as well.

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The 1st principles is very most important and very most importance things to all of us with HOPE response and plans,plan and more plannings for goods n Rights for the people lives and Livelihoods specific the meaning, meanings or meaningful of "LIFE".!! Thank you sir.

[@philipcormier8388]

People in power cannot hide anymore knowledge is everywhere's and everyone has access to it

[@paisleyv3434]

🙏

[@frasertones8519]

I thought that was David Letterman in the thumbnail.

[@pouncingmoggy]

I thought it was Santa. :0

[@russianbluecat6865]

This was extremely interesting. I will buy this book!

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[@rnw26l]

Fascinating.

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When America has more educated citizens, all of our lives become enriched. Go to college if you can, or simply read a book (there are audiobooks), apprenticeship, travel. We need 70% (you can't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining Americans).

[@bts-vt1ee]

Very interesting.

[@wilywascal2024]

“America stopped an authoritarian populist from destroying its democratic institutions.” ~Yascha Mounk

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The government was very efficient at giving the rich and corporations money. They are only gridlocked when it comes to helping the people.

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It was a feature when people put country before party. When senators vow to make a president of the opposing party a one-term president, when justices attend campaign events, and when congresspeople believe in conspiracy theories, then it's a problem.

[@paladinbob1236]

for those that have a love of ancient rome and greece, and a love of american poltiics...it seems to me , a perfect gift for christmas :~) envious of joe to get a early look at this :)

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As we get ready to rid Trump, u can see the joy and lightness on most Americans’ faces including Mika & Joe’s.

[@indiaburke9457]

Afams had an unbelievable library as did Jefferson. Strange they died at tge same hour one in MA one in VA on JULY 4TH....AMERICA HAS A REAL SOUL AND NOBODY CAN CHALLENGE THAT SOUL ....

[@ehole593]

What this country has degraded to over time is the Lincon vs. Davis debate. Davis lost then, Davis loses now.

[@Makermook]

*Douglas

[@epluribusunum1460]

I haven’t even heard the author speak, and I’m skipping over to order the book right now.

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Meka.Joe Interesting information

[@ryangollings4226]

History is regarded collectively, the present comparatively, and the future prospectively.

[@Makermook]

It has been said that Trump won't read anything longer than a page, and then only if his name was prominent in each paragraph. Contrast that with Gen. Mattis, who took an immense library of thousands of books with him to every posting.

[@byronwoolley565]

The Founders and the Classics. Greece, Rome, and the American Enlightenment. Carl Richards 1994 Harvard University Press

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They learned from the ancients that republlics don't last... Meanwhile the Roman republic lasted twice as long as the US to date.

[@bones007able]

Ordering his book... Adams had journalists jailed ?..... wasn't he one of the authors of the amendments?

[@philipcormier8388]

The average KZbinr has more knowledge than the founding fathers had.

[@reaperdragon1]

The founders assumed that the sides would disagree but ultimately would find common ground for the good of the people. Not that we would have one side that has decided to manipulate every loophole possible to block court appointments and lock the system for an entire presidency with no concern for the people, only the richest in our country and their own power...

[@McLKeith]

While the Founding Fathers designed The Constitution to be fixed, amended, they made it hard to do so,

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America so obsessed with the founding fathers!

[@pw9258]

Indeed. Remember, they shredded the previous constitution and then wrote this revered relic. It's way past time to do it again. How many times does a pending constitutional crisis have to be avoided before somebody says "hey, that could have been a problem, why don't we fix that?"

[@flea10x6]

which is why i have an issues with”originalism”

[@rhysholdaway]

Interesting dialogue. I am curious if the thesis of divided government works when it is no longer representative. As an external observer it appears to me that when parties have gerrymandered states so they can get elected and hold power with minority rule you will end up with a stagnating society, polarised between change and resistance or, to phrase in a more pejorative manner, repression or revolution. Surely a closer historic parallel would be the American Civil War? Or a better ancient example the fall of the Roman Republic?

[@philipcormier8388]

Forefathers did not know the future, not very educated, they just projected whatever they thought would work

[@peterjeffery8495]

The other, rarely mentioned characteristic of the Founding Fathers was the diversity of Faith. Yes, MOST were Christians with a number following the philosophy of DEISM. Even within the Christian cohort the differences between denominations back in the late 1700's was not insignificant. Hamilton for example was Huguenot who were subject to tyranny at the hands of the Catholic Church. Th point is that despite the cries of the Evangelical Community, Christ, Christianity etc were NOT enshrined in the Constitution. Why? Because they were never meant to be, quite the opposite.

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[@JorgeStolfi]

Many problems with the thesis... The US Constitution was not a brilliant work meant to guide the nation for the next thousand years. It was partly born of the very specific circumstances of the time, partly hangover from the British tradition, partly well-intentioned bad inventions. The primary constraint of the Founders was to keep together a bunch of former British colonies, **each with their own established government** , which otherwise would had become independent countries. That, not some abstract ideal of "distributed power", was the origin of the State's unusual (and, today, extremely cumbersome) degree of independence. And that compromise facilitated the Civil War, a hundred years later. Moreover, the economy of the colonies was based on plantations owned by patriarchal white families and worked on by black slaves; and slavery was hereditary, with the rule that children with even one slave parent would be slaves themselves. That structure permeates the Constitution. Whenever the Constitution says "rights", it means "rights of the white males". The Second Amendment was meant to allow plantation owners (the implicit meaning of "people") to form armed militias to prevent slave uprisings, if the regular army was called to fight elsewhere. Many institutions were copied from the British ones, except for changes to make some of them elected rather than hereditary. Judges, by the most part, are appointed for life. The President has many of the powers of a King, such as the power to pardon anyone who has been convicted by the Judiciary. The Senate and House are copied from the two British houses, the Lords and the Commons. While both the British historians and the American Founders pretended to be following the Roman example, in fact it was a case of "converegent evolution". Like the Roman Senate, the House of Lords was first, and was meant to be formed by the heads of the noble families; while, like the Roman Tribune, the House of Commons was a later concession to the fact that the nobility was a small minority of the population. The American Senate was meant to be the House of Lords, where two representatives of each State would take the place of the British Nobles. The motivation was of course to preserve for the wealthy elites in each State (where the Senators were expected to come from) at least as much power as the "commoners".

[@livliv4169]

Yes!!!

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McConnell will be MUCH more likely to help Uncle Joe than he did Obama. 🤞

[@philipcormier8388]

Your average cell phone user has more knowledge the founding fathers had

[@flea10x6]

has ACCESS to more INFORMATION. information is not the same as knowledge. access is not the same as understanding e.g., e = mc squared. but do you know and understand this seemingly simple equation- the implications?

[@MrLeobub]

What about the Native American contributions to our constitution????

[@markscott9259]

They ran to Mexico Because they didn't want to be slaves. Now they want to come back from the sweat of black's in 2021 😎

[@domjospal]

Our 18th century Constitutional Republic provides we the people to choose between an autocratic and democratic political system. Over the past 40 years we have been leaning toward an autocracy preferred by our two private political Party corporations. So far they have successfully convinced people to voluntarily follow politicians, instead of leading them in this 21st century. TrueDemocracyNow.org

[@wilywascal2024]

"United we stand, divided we fall." A simple concept, really, that too many Americans seem to have forgotten or abandoned. Our nation is like an airplane; it requires both the left and right wings working together in tandem to operate properly and safely. Only problem is the Reich-wing decided to try flying solo, forcing us all into a nose-dive! Care about the issues, disdain political gamesmanship, while still recognizing politics is an inseparable and necessary element. Have always respected and valued loyal opposition, even if in disagreement with the ideology. Fact is, though, the GOP has abdicated the requisite role of loyal opposition to become a mindless, tribalistic hyper-partisan Republican cult placing political party over truth, reason, decency, and country.

[@alanbunting7145]

collins key

[@wilywascal2024]

At a time when America most needed a Franklin Roosevelt, GOP gave us a Hoover that _really_ sucks! One can only hope that the end of Toxic Trump's single term marks the end of an error.

[@danielschaeffer1294]

Terence? Wait a minute!!! The Oresteia? Sophocles? And, lest we forget, you’ll find everything you’ll need to know buried somewhere in Homer.

[@boomslangCA]

Or, people with some degree of power get tired of making deals, of compromising, of listening to other people who think slightly differently from them and then in their certainty, move to a place politically where they don't have to listen to any dissenting voice ever again.

[@Viksu53]

Democracy or Republic. Or Democratic Republic?

[@susancaldwell624]

Just look at the results America keep the rebluplicains strong but not Trump,what does that tell you

[@lindawilliams7820]

How come I have to pay taxes and Trump don't. Something to think about.

[@rikindehood9003]

Celebrations around the world are likened to when satan was cast down from heaven!

[@Glimiril]

While I am very happy, 250 years seem a long time, it is not the test of time yet. Consider Society of Pandyan Empire (1850 years), or Byzantine Empire (1123 years)...and down the list we have Roman Empire (499 years). were there not bumps in the road for any of these ? please America do not pass you self of as best or equivalent to world yet.

[@robertpoen5383]

Madison and the rich, white property-owning men who designed the government wanted a system that would not and could not interfere with their core financial interests.

[@scotthogan1424]

trump just fired our defense secretary!

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vy qwaint

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santa

[@eddys.3524]

Come on.... The USA political system is a turd...

[@kennyporterfield9630]

Our founding fathers believed in the word of the LORD,unlike the Democratic Party of today

[@davidwilfong5820]

This news is boring isn't nice

[@LifeLiver.]

it's so obvious that this Election has overwhelming Fraud 👀

[@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp]

LOL WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE?

[@BoringDad1272]

Show us the proofs or shut up!

[@ehole593]

obvious only to your delusional mind sir.

[@QuantumNoir]

Do conspiracy bloggers count as high quality evidence?

[@wildego04]

Show evidence please or F**k off.

[@danasleeperOFTRIBE1]

Remember media outlets do not validate elections, the American people do, and we will! Is still a good day, we still have a great leader , leading our country! Thank you President Donald J Trump for your selflessness towards leading all Americans! We will never forget You! Truth, justice and the American way are here to stay no matter who or what evil shows up at our back door! Keep up the good fight America, evil shall not prevail!! America Will stand strong and never become a socialist government run country 🙂👷👮👨‍👩‍👧‍👦For45

[@rpena]

This guy is talking so much BS it's unbelievable