First Run of a Horizontal Shingle Saw

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@RoysFineGems
@RoysFineGems 3 ай бұрын
You need a clean blade, and a big oil can full of Turpentine. A few drops into the blade, lubricates and cuts through Sap and water. An Uncle of mine cut Cedar Shingles. But he said, the Turpentine works on all woods. He had a Dripper, made from a coffee can or some such, that dripped onto the Right center, of the blade, just in front of the operator. The can was mounted on a piece of sqare tube mounted on the right side of the machine. A simple brass valve and a piece of copper tube bent to the right place. He could cut shingles faster than any Roofing crew could lay them! Ever since, Ive loved the smell of Turentine!😊 I have no idea whatever happened to his machinery. Never thought I would see one running again. Not sure of factory specs, but his was spinning Twice as fast,,, at least 😮? It sounded like an Airplane taking off! This is a memory from the early 70s. He had half, of some "old" truck or car, to run the flat belt. It was hot, smoky, dirty, dusty, and the smell of Cedar, Pine, burnt motor oil, and Turpentine are fondly seared into my brain. To that point in my life, it was the most terifying machine I'd ever seen! Cool!😊
@NN-sj9fg
@NN-sj9fg 3 ай бұрын
A large drive pulley would cause it to run faster.
@ProlificInvention
@ProlificInvention 3 ай бұрын
This comment wins the internet
@gerardgayy2708
@gerardgayy2708 3 ай бұрын
What a great memory to have!
@shawnhayden6674
@shawnhayden6674 3 ай бұрын
Wow. Fantastic.
@william6526
@william6526 3 ай бұрын
I'm sure a sharpening would help that saw cut faster and a wire wheel to clean the rust off the blade.
@aussiebaz5363
@aussiebaz5363 3 ай бұрын
From a 70 year old Bloke, a Plumber in the trade for over 50 years, who has just been diagnosed with Pulmonary Fibrosis, a fatal disease that will eventually suffocate me, caused by inhaling foreign matter such as that rust and wood dust, I'd be investing in some form of face mask if you don't want to suffer the same fate. Great machine, fascinating, please look after yourself.
@ejvaz13
@ejvaz13 3 ай бұрын
That’s the first thing I thought. I’d be pissed if someone made me breathe iron oxide. Wood is a bit different but still not ideal.
@theeastman9136
@theeastman9136 3 ай бұрын
I agree fully. I'm also an old woodworker with only one lung; lost the other one to cancer due to wood dust cedar is particularly bad this way). The other lung ain't too good either. Take care of yourself son, wear a good quality mask when around wood dust.
@reginaldomartins4155
@reginaldomartins4155 3 ай бұрын
Eu também estou sofrendo devido respirar pó de madeira ,cheiro de tinta e solvente.
@reginaldomartins4155
@reginaldomartins4155 3 ай бұрын
​@@theeastman9136 Concordo 👍
@kylehenline3245
@kylehenline3245 3 ай бұрын
@@ejvaz13 Wood dust is nothing to mess with, as other people sick from it have attested. Even "non treated" lumber still generally gets sprayed with a surface treatment of anti fungals you don't wanna inhale, and wood fiber is pointy at the microscopic. Its not as bad as absestos and silica dust but similar mechanism. But it also takes longer to settle out of the air so your exposure could be even worse.
@morgansword
@morgansword 3 ай бұрын
I admire courage and say that you have the correct idea on how to saw shingles. I worked in shingle and shake mills back in the sixties and early seventies. That saw blade measured 52" and turned thirty six hundred RPM's. The blade had a cup to it and when turning its correct speed, the blade leveled out to be very flat. The system you have is usually called a flat sawn shingle. Same principle and still needs to turn a higher speed. Right now, the blade is ripping the wood and not making shavings. They split those blocks to be able to have a vertical wood grain on the shingle and avoid cupping of the wood when dry. Small logs like you are using would benefit from being split like a three piece of pie. One quick pass to clean up one side and then turn the block to the next position and make nice clean on one side shingles. The flat saw used different standard lengths, 16,18, and 24" lengths of shingles to use up wood that would not make good shakes which normally are twenty four inches. Because of much larger timber in those days and not second growth small trees like you are using, you could make up to fifty squares a day or about two hundred bundles done in a packing frame. Although I have made several kinds of saw mills, shakes and shingles were not my thing. One thing I did saw though was cedar weinscoat. Used in many applications like inside closets, or on walls like restaurants and banks. It got rid of moths in any kind of cupboard or closets. Those small trees you are using for your shingle application would make a fine and beautiful weinscoat wall adornment. any closet or home can use them in many ways and you will find out there is a tremendous market for it. Wishing you luck with your endeavors
@joshb6993
@joshb6993 3 ай бұрын
I love that idea of using cedar for wardrobe wainscoting. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
@johnaverill5444
@johnaverill5444 3 ай бұрын
That’s why there are many different widths of eastern white cedar shakes. Quarter sawn is key- flat sawn cups
@shadricosuave
@shadricosuave 2 ай бұрын
Some great tips. Hope he gets to read these and implements and does another follow-up video. I love this old history and the experience is everyone is preserving.
@Telephonebill51
@Telephonebill51 Ай бұрын
Isn't is WAY easier to split shake shingles instead of cutting them?
@KyleK-j4b
@KyleK-j4b Ай бұрын
I love all the old machinery it's amazing how well stuff was made back then and it's still working today with a little bit of help from you guys.
@limes194
@limes194 3 ай бұрын
I grew up on a farm. My father had all kinds of belt driven machinery. I am still fascinated by these machines. He would always set up a dedicated place near the machine he was working with to lay out his tools and put them back immediately after use. He would have pulled me by the ears if he ever caught me throwing anything on the ground. It helped me later in life to take care of things and keep them tidy.
@BillTheTractorMan
@BillTheTractorMan 3 ай бұрын
I have been looking for a "good" one of these for about 8 years. Every time i find one, it's quite a long distance from me! Thabks for sharing.
@romualdaskuzborskis
@romualdaskuzborskis 3 ай бұрын
Why not guy/build shaving one instead of saw?
@don66hotrod94
@don66hotrod94 3 ай бұрын
Watch those fingers! When I was a child I was introduced to an old man named Fred who only had most of a thumb and half on his little finger left on one hand, but could still roll up cigarettes like a champ. My Dad explained that Fred was a shingle maker and lost those fingers pieces at a time while cutting shingles. Gives me the chills just thinking about it.
@bigredc222
@bigredc222 3 ай бұрын
I'm 64, when I was a kid it wasn't all that uncommon to see old men missing fingers.
@redeyedmongoose2963
@redeyedmongoose2963 3 ай бұрын
A lot more shingle cutters than Fred are missing fingers
@YO3A007
@YO3A007 3 ай бұрын
Probably used the vertical shingle mills
@jeffhiggins808
@jeffhiggins808 3 ай бұрын
Looks safer than a bandsaw
@derrickshuey
@derrickshuey 3 ай бұрын
Uncle of mine while a child lost most his fingers on one hand to a belt driven water pump for the well, he was out looking at it and to him it looked like it was slipping off the wheel. Went to touch it and jurked his hand between the wheel and the belt. Lost his fingers to the mid knuckles, worst noogies of my life and you couldn't escape it cuz the man was a beast, did construction his whole life!
@bvalt1
@bvalt1 3 ай бұрын
that's so cool, white cedar shingles are selling for close to $150 a bundle for AA clears, you cant even find them any more, mostly jus B clears available heer in New England, and red cedars are over $500 a box, so $600 a square for whites and $1000 for reds, that machine is a license to print money!!!! A machine is only as dangerous as its operator, this is how our grandparents did it, and they lived to tell the tale, fingers intact.
@georgedunkelberg5004
@georgedunkelberg5004 3 ай бұрын
THANKS FOR THE HISTORY!
@howardg7162
@howardg7162 3 ай бұрын
Well most of there fingers
@samuelmellars7855
@samuelmellars7855 3 ай бұрын
​@@howardg7162 yeah, there's some survivorship bias in "they lived to tell the tale"!
@tehbonehead
@tehbonehead 3 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that's the saw that killed Johnny Cash's brother...
@ganjalfcreamcorn8438
@ganjalfcreamcorn8438 3 ай бұрын
@@samuelmellars7855 hahaha true. the dead ones cant talk as well.
@rowejon
@rowejon 3 ай бұрын
Great to see old machinery in action.
@deanp1823
@deanp1823 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for saving this piece of history. This actually looks way safer than some of the old shingle mills here in the NW that sawed the individual bolts by hand on a huge band saw. Many missing fingers associated. Also very cool to see your tractor, this brings back childhood memories.
@gomergomez1984
@gomergomez1984 3 ай бұрын
It deserves a full restoration.
@rexmyers991
@rexmyers991 3 ай бұрын
For sure!
@Destros2ndone
@Destros2ndone 3 ай бұрын
a job for hand tool rescue ;)
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 3 ай бұрын
@@Destros2ndone YEAH id be shipping that over to HTR
@hughezzell10000
@hughezzell10000 2 ай бұрын
I've always said if it aint broke, dont fix it. To that end, if you do restore it, be ready for things to be out of square, out of whack and hard to get back into proper running order. Maybe just clean it up and use it?
@GJRA4572
@GJRA4572 9 күн бұрын
All this saw needs is TLC and a purpose. Just give her shelter, a good cleaning and proper lubrication. After that she will let you know what she needs. Grandpa says,, "Work horses don't live in museums."
@ZachKlaus-c4c
@ZachKlaus-c4c 3 ай бұрын
The Mechanical history Round Table of Rochester Mn has this same mill. Have been using it for close to 50 years during our shows. Your sharpening method is going to destroy your blade. You need to learn the correct way to sharpen a blade. Additionally, that blade needs to be cleaned up before using it. Another thing to realize is that most all of the buildings this side of the Rocky Mts with wood shingles had shingles made of White pine, and not Cedar as most people believe. You are cutting dry wood. Shingle mills were made to cut green wood. Green wood takes less power to cut and does not dull the sawblade nearly as fast as cutting dry wood. Shingle mill blades are hard to find and replace. Take special care of your blade. If you need help with your mill contact Mr Z, head sawyer at MHRT Rochester Mn.
@timbarry5080
@timbarry5080 2 ай бұрын
Isn't white pine prone to rot?
@soup409
@soup409 2 ай бұрын
So cool to see old machines getting used as they were back in the day. Great work!
@42lookc
@42lookc 3 ай бұрын
What a splendid piece of machinery! So wonderful to see a piece of belt driven equipment at work. A Massey-Harris 44 or a Cockshutt 40 would give you the belt speed and power you need for that saw. Maybe even a Massey-Harris 30 or a Cockshutt 30. A Case VA seems a little light for that job.
@donmedford2563
@donmedford2563 3 ай бұрын
When I was a kid, Dad had a buzz saw we used to cut fire wood. Most of it was from pallets he got free from work but also small trees and limbs from our woods. He powered it with a John Deere 530. He had a JD 630 as well but the 530 had plenty of power for that . I think the blade was roughly 48".
@geoffpranger4002
@geoffpranger4002 3 ай бұрын
A friend of mine has one like this. Only his has an automatic trip to tilt the block as you pull it back to you. We run it at the antique shows around here with his '29 Minneapolis 27-42. It's a really neat and unusual set up.
@benterbieten9540
@benterbieten9540 3 ай бұрын
A good friend of mine had a little earlier version of that saw that saw that we cut 1000's of shingles with at shows. luckily someone pulled up and paid him a large amount of money for it and removed our temptation of running it. You must always be aware of where your hands are. Also with about twice the RPM it is a lot easier and smoother. Have fun and be careful.
@DaClaptain
@DaClaptain 2 ай бұрын
cut 1000s of shingles with. Someone removed our temptation of running it.... Something doesnt add up here.
@Akitene
@Akitene 3 ай бұрын
This machine is so frightening and yet a delight to behold. You must feel like a daredevil when you use it.
@toadabc
@toadabc 3 ай бұрын
Looks like it has all the safety features I need.
@susandunlap7754
@susandunlap7754 3 ай бұрын
It's as safe as you are
@huckbeduck
@huckbeduck 3 ай бұрын
Both hands are gripping onto handles up out of harms way, I ain't skurred
@spudpud-T67
@spudpud-T67 3 ай бұрын
It looked dangerous then in action lost all that. Now you know how this one functions it's time to tweek it to perfection.
@furmaster212
@furmaster212 3 ай бұрын
It wouldn't be a real tool without serious risk of permanent injury or death. Question is how much do you value the use of your hands?
@dougalexander7204
@dougalexander7204 3 ай бұрын
Fascinating. I’m planning to harvest a white oak tree to make shingles for my home. I wish I had a machine like yours. Much respect.
@PattyMeloana
@PattyMeloana 5 күн бұрын
You can do it on a good bandsaw that is set up for re-saw,
@daveyjoweaver6282
@daveyjoweaver6282 3 ай бұрын
What a great old machine I wasn’t aware of. Thanks for sharing it! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
@edwardlincoln5680
@edwardlincoln5680 3 ай бұрын
I saw a shingle saw very much like this at an antique tractor show in Shelton, Wa. Fellow was giving shingles away as a souvenir
@KPMACHINE1
@KPMACHINE1 3 ай бұрын
I love old machines getting back to work in the modern day. Nicely done!
@markburd8541
@markburd8541 3 ай бұрын
Loved visiting Peterborough when I was a wee kid, especially "The Worlds Largest Lift Locks" incredible to behold
@skategeezer1810
@skategeezer1810 3 ай бұрын
It's cool to see the skill set that you and Adrian have at such a young age. 😊
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 3 ай бұрын
So cool. They have a working shingle mill annually at the Thresherman’s show in Pinckneyville Illinois. I use two buzz saws for making firewood from sawmill slabs and tree limbs up to around 8” but I have never used a shingle mill. Awesome video!! Keep the old ways going.
@jonathanljohnson
@jonathanljohnson 3 ай бұрын
Great video! It would be a relatively easy thing to build a bandsaw version of this machine that would be quite efficient! I'm always interested in the efficiency of production, but it's very interesting to see how our predecessors handled the engineering problems, thanks for the video!
@tetreaulthank4068
@tetreaulthank4068 3 ай бұрын
That is such an amazing machine! I’d be absolutely thrilled to have come across one like that, what a great find 👍🏻
@MrChubbyHubby.
@MrChubbyHubby. 2 ай бұрын
A great piece of history still working is always good to see, thank you for sharing and look forward to seeing more to come.
@Mike-rx4in
@Mike-rx4in 3 ай бұрын
Very cool piece of equipment! I have never, seen one before! Thanks for the video!
@mikemcewen2092
@mikemcewen2092 3 ай бұрын
Nice shingle mill and thanks to you it will not go to a scrap yard. Two friends and I went to David Richards steam machine shop in Newark valley NY.He is a very knowledgeable machinist and steam engineer and has a very nice shop. Mike mcewen
@tymz-r-achangin
@tymz-r-achangin 3 ай бұрын
Easily got my thumbs up! Love the content .... good ol' ways of the good ol' days. And thank you for not using foul language. Our kids were able to watch with me and my wife.
@vainwretch
@vainwretch 3 ай бұрын
I saw a man at a mountain fair here in Georgia many years ago, who used a hatchet to make shakes. He was very fast and efficient . I think you would cut faster if the blade was oiled smooth and also had a precision sharpening. I saw a KZbin video a while back of a guy who sharpened big blades like this one. He also trued them up which was an art in it's self.
@gelmgren
@gelmgren 3 ай бұрын
He would hae used a Froe, hand splits are worth more $$$
@howestimothy7820
@howestimothy7820 3 ай бұрын
Great machine! About to cross to Canada from the UK to visit relatives in Ontario. I will listen out for it!😂
@SgtCude59
@SgtCude59 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this machine. I never knew it existed. Pretty cool. yall found it in good shape. I enjoy watching
@tinabriggs2286
@tinabriggs2286 2 ай бұрын
In the early eighties I was offsider on a well drilling crew running an ancient belt driven percussion rig. We didn't use the small belt driven the tractor as it was too slow. Rather the boss backed the tractor in place and we jacked it off the ground and drove the belt with the back wheel. We dug holes and put wood post in each side of the belt for guides to keep it running true on the rear tyre.
@scottheard8103
@scottheard8103 Ай бұрын
I have a buddy with a 48” sawmill made in Peterborough Early 1900s vintage Amazing machine
@ishnifusmeadle
@ishnifusmeadle 3 ай бұрын
Very neat. Was doin excavation for a ol man near me who was trying to sell me his old rig.....was interested to learn but no intent to buy. Glad he showed me. Made me appreciate the old way. Side note: Holy smokes, never seen someone run a chain that loose!
@jazzmusiccontinues1134
@jazzmusiccontinues1134 2 ай бұрын
-referring to a belt as a chain -press x to doubt any mechanical knowledge -entire story now 🤔
@ishnifusmeadle
@ishnifusmeadle 2 ай бұрын
@@jazzmusiccontinues1134 his or mine? Iiiiiii meant the chain.....of the chainsaw. It was ludacrisly sloppy, not the mill belt. -press y for cautious skepticism of potential internet troll
@jazzmusiccontinues1134
@jazzmusiccontinues1134 2 ай бұрын
@@ishnifusmeadleOh that makes way more sense. Could have used a timestamp like 2:26 so we could know which 5 seconds of video you were talking about
@ishnifusmeadle
@ishnifusmeadle 2 ай бұрын
@jazzmusiccontinues1134 Fair enough. i should have known most people don't know what chainsaws are. I did make the assumption that someone watching a video about lumber milling would know what one is but that is kinda presumptuous of me. I'll keep that in mind in the future.have a wonderful day.
@jazzmusiccontinues1134
@jazzmusiccontinues1134 2 ай бұрын
@@ishnifusmeadle Hell, you could have just mentioned something like “wow that Stihl sure has a loose chain. Not real loose, just kind of loose, like maybe it’s at the point where it’s gone from cold to warm and has lengthened a bit, doesn’t appear to affect its function at all, but I don’t feel right unless I’m criticizing something.” See that was super easy, you’re probably just overthinking it
@jaybailey3518
@jaybailey3518 3 ай бұрын
I think we need to return to those days. Nice stuff !!!
@stevengirton3745
@stevengirton3745 3 ай бұрын
What a fascinating piece of tool history.
@kyzor-sosay6087
@kyzor-sosay6087 2 ай бұрын
Interesting video,man.Thanks for your time.Looking forward to the next one.
@domading2759
@domading2759 3 ай бұрын
That is the best example of a kindling machine I've seen all day! Shingles should not be cut, they should be split so that they last.. Cut shingles don't last 1/4 of the life of a split shingle.. Science is weird.. Check it out
@lhpl
@lhpl 2 ай бұрын
Funny you should say that. On Danish TV a few years ago, Frank Erichsen (a farmer doing a kind of DIY reality/biography tv series about his farm) used a machine to cut/split shingles, not with a saw, but a sharp blade. Seemed a lot safer than this device too.
@MachinecoMachines
@MachinecoMachines 3 ай бұрын
Now you have a vertical AND a horizontal ! And I recognize the same belt you used outside the Wadkin Temple. See you this weekend` !
@lawrencebernas9229
@lawrencebernas9229 Ай бұрын
Very interesting to watch an old machine like this still working. I would think a dust mask and a sure footing surface is very important
@2_dog_Restoration
@2_dog_Restoration 3 ай бұрын
Great find!! Great Vidio !! THANKS for takeing your time to share this intersting machinery with us !
@johnnoble8675
@johnnoble8675 3 ай бұрын
This awesome, I've never seen or heard of a saw like this saw, very cool, thank you so much for sharing a video of this wonderful old saw 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊.
@JuliusDietrich
@JuliusDietrich 2 ай бұрын
We have quite a similar machine at our workshop in dresden, germany, but no one ever saw it running, so thanks for the demonstration! Even so, you were just producing a lot of firewood there... If you are aiming to cut high quality shingles, you need to quartersaw or split your logs beforehand and then flip them every cut to get standing annual rings. Not as good as split shingles, but close enough.
@TehButterflyEffect
@TehButterflyEffect 2 ай бұрын
The machine in Dresden is all locked up from fire damage.
@Chr.U.Cas1622
@Chr.U.Cas1622 3 ай бұрын
👍👌👏 Oh WOW, simply fantastic! Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing. Best regards luck and especially health to all involved people.
@RaymondWKing-dn8wf
@RaymondWKing-dn8wf 2 ай бұрын
Wow, another wonderful old Machine! clean it up, paint it and get it undercover out of the Rain and Snow and under cover. It will last another Hundred plus Yars, and I'll enjoy watching you Sharping Saw's
@eyuptony
@eyuptony 3 ай бұрын
What a fantastic vintage machine. Looks like you'll need about twice the horse power you using now as well as an increase in revs per minute. Looking forward to seeing it running with a larger power plant. You wont need a gym membership running that 40 hours a week. Brilliant. Cheers Tony
@justdoingitjim7095
@justdoingitjim7095 3 ай бұрын
An ingenious design where you flip a lever and it changes the bevel after each pass, so the log gets reduced evenly. I've installed wood shingles in the distant past and when I busted open a bundle, it had shingles of every width from 6 inches to over 16 inches. But you use your roofing hatchet to split a shingle to the desired width at the ends or for middle repairs. Most communities here in Texas have banned wood shingles. because they were considered a fire hazard. Every year people with wood shingled roofs would stand outside on New Year's Eve and the Fourth of July, watching for stray fireworks that accounted for a large portion of roof fires!
@YO3A007
@YO3A007 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant design!
@Ackermanmedia
@Ackermanmedia 2 ай бұрын
That thing is AWESOME!!!!! Set one of those up in your backyard on the Olympic Peninsula and make shingles all day. Cedar shingles are expensive.
@RogerNelson-o5q
@RogerNelson-o5q 3 ай бұрын
never saw one before also true work not done by a phone keep restoring history is great
@dc6233
@dc6233 2 ай бұрын
Who doesn't love old iron!!??
@northernlite3368
@northernlite3368 2 ай бұрын
Given the sound of the saw: '' wing wing wing...", I believe the radius of saw is not the same all around the outside. It happens when a round saw is sharpened by hand, Very difficult to control. Requires careful attention to number of strokes of the file on each tooth and pressure applied by the hand" ! Nice device as heck anyway !
@johnvalencia7488
@johnvalencia7488 3 ай бұрын
I actually have one of these machines. I keep mine in my kitchen and use it for slicing lunch meat. Thick cuts. Good cuts. Yum. The End.
@FassEddie
@FassEddie 3 ай бұрын
Can you cut the cheese with it? Asking for my Grandmaw.
@spudpud-T67
@spudpud-T67 3 ай бұрын
@@FassEddie Cuts the becheeses off anything, so says Papi.
@johnsrabe
@johnsrabe 3 ай бұрын
This is probably the piece of machinery that looks the most dangerous, but turns out not to be that bad. It doesn’t look like you could fall in very easily, or that the wood would fly up into your face. Thanks for the video.
@brushbros
@brushbros 3 ай бұрын
When you reach beneath (or on top) of the machine never take your eyes off of your hands. Then count your fingers. Brilliant video I must say.
@flamingchillum
@flamingchillum 3 ай бұрын
Very cool Here in the redwoods I have never seen one. The wood was broken into bolts for shingle cutting. Many men lost fingers in the machines here.
@in4merATP
@in4merATP 3 ай бұрын
if you split cedar instead of cutting it, the grain is preserved and the shingles last quite a few more years because of water ingress to the grain split by the saw.
@danahansen4708
@danahansen4708 3 ай бұрын
I was told the same thing but my own experience has shown me different. I reshingled 2 roofs on 2 different outbuildings 34 years ago. One building was done with NOS 24" clear shingles with bundles bound with tin strapping(old) I found in my barn. The other was done with 24" shakes I bought new from Grossman's Lumber. Even that long ago I felt the shakes were fairly expensive. Both roofs are still water tight but both are deteriorating at the same rate. Both roofs are now very dry and brittle and I am seeing random shakes AND shingles crack and break from snow, wind ,ice etc. Both roofs need replacing before they fail and begin leaking. Both roofs will be redone this spring with cedar shingles. The life span was pretty much identical.😮
@marktullis1175
@marktullis1175 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful machine! Safe as safe does. Skill required 😊
@mojavegold-
@mojavegold- 3 ай бұрын
Very cool! I have two old vertical flat-belt circular saws with blades around that same size. I have never before seen a horizontal one. Mine look even more risky to use than your shingle mill - so they are currently static displays only.
@janetcohen9190
@janetcohen9190 3 ай бұрын
😮 nice, thanks for finding, sharing, hope machine is restored, 🎉🎉🎉😊
@grazynazambeanie5963
@grazynazambeanie5963 3 ай бұрын
Horizontal saw probably saved fingers , but it took an extra man to operate the mill , with vertical saw the Sawyer was also the trimmer man . Then the packer did the rest . As the saw was sharpened it got smaller , after a while the clip would not be cut through and the nature instinct is to reach up and pull it free , funny thing is the saw don't care if it's wood or flesh it just cuts . The trim saw also took a few fingers but most of the lost fingers were from the left hand . Also the whole mill got high . Main saw- drop to trim saw - drop to packer
@ironcladranchandforge7292
@ironcladranchandforge7292 3 ай бұрын
A lot faster than splitting shingles by hand using a froe. Nice machine!!
@redeyedmongoose2963
@redeyedmongoose2963 3 ай бұрын
I split quite a few shakes with a froe, still got all my fingers
@trentnicolajsen3731
@trentnicolajsen3731 3 ай бұрын
excellent for apple box wood box stock and sides to make fruit crates, and I notice also the the blade is making some nice wood wool shavings to go in to boxes for packaging. in western Canada we have a lot of under utilized cotton wood. it does not need to be sanded or planed as it is sliver free wood.
@thomassalgert9976
@thomassalgert9976 3 ай бұрын
Very cool Maschine.And it still works after such a long time. :-)
@jerrytalley802
@jerrytalley802 Ай бұрын
I love all the antique stuff and how it was built to last forever with tough construction and replacing worn parts. Today, everything is cheaply built and almost disposable
@stephenb.patterson2642
@stephenb.patterson2642 3 ай бұрын
It appears that in addition to saw blade tuning and sharpening, it appears that the bottom bearing is worn out, (or needs to be adjusted) so that the bottom edge of the drive belt does not fray against the drive pulley.
@jimhammer2012
@jimhammer2012 3 ай бұрын
What a great machine! Imagine doing that all day! The probably would saw green wood not dry so it would crack and the nails would hold better.
@garymucher4082
@garymucher4082 3 ай бұрын
I would disassembly that machine and refurbish every single part. Then grease all the moving parts up and reassembly it. And it looks like once you get the proper tilt and thickness you want, all you should have to do it make a cut, pull the sled back and release the side holder to allow the wood to set down and lock it and cut again... No need to readjust the machine after setting it for what you need. It would work more automatically and faster too. Thumbs Up!
@bigredc222
@bigredc222 3 ай бұрын
Yes me too. At the very least remove the blade, polish it and sharpen it. It also need something with more HP and more RPMs to power it.
@dean4939
@dean4939 3 ай бұрын
Great piece of history brought back to life. Looks like you have other time pieces as well. The blade looks like it has a little wobble and may be bent I hope not but it looks and cuts like it does.
@kylehenline3245
@kylehenline3245 3 ай бұрын
I felt it through the screen when you kneed that linkage. I also might consider rigging up some kind of hard shield in front of the push bar so your hands can't slip over into the blade, that sketches me out haha. But just clamp on or something obviously don't wanna pemanently modify this piece of history if it can be avoided.
@JS_Precision
@JS_Precision 3 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! Looks absolutely lethal! Someone call Handtool rescue!
@BugeyeBob-zt6ne
@BugeyeBob-zt6ne 3 ай бұрын
Looks like it pivots in the center of the block so that you can cut left side thick, then right side thick on the next pass. Extra bonus is you get lots of free "Excelsior" for packing... or sell it as fire starter.
@shadricosuave
@shadricosuave 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your bravery and sharing. Don't get too comfortable😮
@sicks6six
@sicks6six Ай бұрын
when the old homesteaders were building their farms you can imagine them waiting for the last guy to finish his so they could borrow this shingle saw, usually they were owned by farming cooperatives and shared out when needed to members and friends, great times when America was free
@Kolar522
@Kolar522 3 ай бұрын
Here in Slovenia we split shingles with a hand axe. We never cut them as its too much waste and it lasts for up to 50 years.
@TheJohnreeves
@TheJohnreeves 3 ай бұрын
I love hand tool work, and it's better for a lot of things. But are you sure it's less waste for shingles? I mean, other than the obvious fuel use, which is definitely waste. I've watched how traditional shingles are made by hand, every single one requires some touching up with an axe to thickness it and get it flat-ish, and it always looked to me like that would remove more than a saw kerf worth of wood per shingle. Although I don't know the size of this saw kerf, it might be huge.
@mlindsay527
@mlindsay527 3 ай бұрын
@@TheJohnreeves I wouldn’t be surprised if every third shingle is turned to dust with that saw.
@andreytur6051
@andreytur6051 3 ай бұрын
Пила перерізає волокна,і на них затримується вода,і вона довго не живе.Тому в нас Карпатах України рубають в ручну.Називається тьос.
@TheJohnreeves
@TheJohnreeves 3 ай бұрын
@@mlindsay527 haha, maybe so. And they'll all cup, unlike hand riven shingles.
@John-NeverStopLearning
@John-NeverStopLearning 3 ай бұрын
Great piece of equipment 👍👍👍👍. It sounds like it could use some more power. The tractor is slowing down a bit. I’m sure it is using the file. Are the teeth “set”? This means the teeth are bent to one side every other tooth. This makes clearance for the blade not to touch the wood while cutting. Something you might try is to use a tiny bit of chainsaw oil on the teeth. Then make your first cuts on the log to get rid of the excess. Love the video ❤
@TalRohan
@TalRohan 3 ай бұрын
Such a cool machine, I have an idea for the waste cut pieces, they could be sold as pyrography sheets and thick veneers and other things, It would be too expensive for me being in the UK but I think their is a worthy market out there for them that would offset a lot of other expenses for the machine.
@christopherleblanc9599
@christopherleblanc9599 3 ай бұрын
never seen one like this one , cool
@benjaminlliclenin3381
@benjaminlliclenin3381 3 ай бұрын
Eine echt gute Schindelsäge. Weiterhin mal gut Holz und Servus.
@TheCritterWindow
@TheCritterWindow 3 ай бұрын
This is a cool machine. One problem with the blade may be the set of the teeth. A sharp blade with bad set will not cut well.
@steenstry
@steenstry 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I love that you made it work. I'm curious though as to how it is an advantage vs. by hand with a froe? With the froe method, your shingles are all the same width, since they are radial like pie slices. Which is handy for roofing. With this, your shingles vary in width as they are slabs cross cut from a cylinder. I would think that these might also tend to curl up more, or at least more variably, than the froe method? And it doesn't appear faster (not that I've seen a lot of either method.) Somehow, making shingles with a froe strikes me as an idyllic scene, whereas this gives me nightmares and I count my fingers after I watch it. That said, you had me at giant tractor PTO drive. Guessing you got it sharp based on 3 foot chips. Please be careful.
@castironmachines
@castironmachines 3 ай бұрын
If set up properly, cutting shingles with a machine like this is much faster, but this machine still needs adjustment. Cut shingles can also be made radially instead of just slices of a log like in the video. Split shingles do tend to be thicker and last longer since the split happens with the grain. Cheers!
@Michael-uy6py
@Michael-uy6py 3 ай бұрын
That's so cool. What an amazing old tool. It just amazing me the old tech they used back than. Dangerous yes... But effective yes
@foxwood67
@foxwood67 3 ай бұрын
Very nice machine. Needs a media blast and some TLC I installed many cedar shingle roofs back in the day. We went from most shingles being 6”-16” to 4”-10” over the years with diminishing quality and size. Love the smell but 5 bundle per Square was a lot of work to make any progress. 😊
@caryclemenson5558
@caryclemenson5558 3 ай бұрын
That is truly fascinating, thank you for sharing
@biglouie..8056
@biglouie..8056 2 ай бұрын
Never new very nice history is beautiful..ty💪💯✌️
@telmore6490
@telmore6490 3 ай бұрын
This video should be called "John Lennon runs a shingle maker"
@L.W.123
@L.W.123 3 ай бұрын
Helter SHELTER
@seniorelzappo9919
@seniorelzappo9919 3 ай бұрын
Imagine !
@materikoro
@materikoro 3 ай бұрын
Me llamó la atencion la correa plana y tan larga que cuando yo era niño allá por el año 1953, hablaban que era hecha de pelo de camello, no se si seria cierto o no era lo que habia en esa época para mover maquinarias. felicitaciones por hacer llegar a todos un recuerdo tan lindo .
@YO3A007
@YO3A007 3 ай бұрын
We have a horizontal shingle mill Antique Gas & Steam Engine Mueum, Vista Ca. Blade likes a little more RPM, but I think this is a very safe Machine. Brilliant design.
@justicematters5447
@justicematters5447 2 ай бұрын
This thing is wonderful and straight out of my nightmares lol.
@rosspayne2235
@rosspayne2235 3 ай бұрын
Dang that's the biggest leather belt I've ever seen in my life 😊
@davem5308
@davem5308 2 ай бұрын
I was going to suggest painting every square inch with a liberal coat of marvel mystery oil. Yes, with two inch chip brush or something. Thanks for sharing the ole saw with us. Very cool!
@miroberries
@miroberries 3 ай бұрын
....i think a bit of time spent going over this machine would pay dividends...uniform shingles is what we're looking for....and to achieve that we need to get that machine running as best we can! I'd LOVE to have that in my backyard...never seen one before...have fun!
@iron_jonesy
@iron_jonesy 3 ай бұрын
What an interesting machine! Great video thanks for all the info!
@craigdonnelly2290
@craigdonnelly2290 3 ай бұрын
Watched one at Nelsonville OH Paul Bunyan show they had the whole setup that cut rounds to blocks before making shingles. Wow that was a while back 😊
@rpower1401
@rpower1401 3 ай бұрын
Great video. Love that old technology. Still trying to figure way to power my recently acquired Champion no 1 power hammer, hoping to avoid the need for a leather belt due to cost and replacement availability concerns. If you have any insights would be appreciated.
@austinwagoncompany
@austinwagoncompany 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to have one of these. Maybe one of these years.
@mnrebel4ever
@mnrebel4ever 7 күн бұрын
R. R. Howell made one VERY similar. The rocker is automatic and it doesn't have the drop feature, otherwise exactly the same. Would be surprised if there wasn't some patent infringement
@markoatley9723
@markoatley9723 3 ай бұрын
The Buckley old engine show in Buckley mi has about three of these in operating condition. They run every day of the 4 day show. Usually ran by Farmall H's. There are unique.
@wwmoggy
@wwmoggy 3 ай бұрын
I live in peterborough over looking the Locks . this came up in my youtube suggestions today.
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