FIRST TIER LIST for Street Fighter 6 - My Thoughts

[@Sammysapphira]

Glad to see you back, Behr. Long time fan, used to watch you when I was a kid struggling to do qcf in sf4

[@TheCrimsonBox]

Welcome back man! Glad to see you're back making content. Missed your Monday Night Fights.

[@tiredofthisshieeet]

Papa Behr been watching since you were posting MvC3 on Machinima. Your channel was a very helpful gateway for me getting into fighting games more seriously and the community as a whole. Thank you. Glad to see you're back posting again

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

Marisa: Scrub Killer Tier (seriously she is a monster)

[@autex2609]

I'm finally seeing the light with Chun Li. Been a blast learning her. Very satisfying.

[@RudyVisuals]

I started watching your content towards the tail end of SF4 so it's great to see you back at it! SF6 has really relit my passion for fighting games again, I just really couldn't get into V all that much. Hope to see lots of great SF6 content on here over the next few years!

[@chimpmasterflex]

I know it's still early, but if JP was randomly nerfed into the ground, through a casket and the casket exploded, I would not complain. He's an actual fun-sucking character, and I've been running into more and more of them. Win or lose, there is so little enjoyment to be had fighting him.

[@Behrudy]

Though I play quite a bit of JP on the side, I agree that his main issue is that he's not fun to play against 😅

[@chimpmasterflex]

@@Behrudy Even if I never get my dream-level nerfs, it'd be nice if there was at least some more recovery on the spikes. I feel that's kind of reasonable, considering how many you likely need to block to get back in. Shit sucks lol. Enjoy yourself though.

[@wlt3585]

I'm surprised, I enjoy fighting JP alot and find his kit really cool, though I agree immediately getting a spike as soon as you are knocked down is a little silly

[@dodang_9147]

@@Behrudy I think main thing that making people think Jamie is not as good as people think he is has to do with his command grab which is his level 3 drink reward. The problem with Jamie is that he has to hit-confirm at least 4 times before his neutral game is superior to other characters. For Jamie to be worth anything higher then C-tier, Jamie has to have unbeatable rushdown when he hits level 3-4 and that is just the problem. He's not unbeatable his rushdown and his neutral game is not THAT much better then other rushdown characters. Part of that has to do with the fact that his command grab has TERRIBLE scaling. I think it instantly put your damage output to 50%. Its like awful. Why this is important is that his command grab is how he is suppose to win his neutral game and counter player that properly block. This is suppose to be his reward for dropping Oki pressure and high damage combo that other characters have access right from the start. The average character in street fighter 6 can do roughly 30% damage for 1 drive gauge and some combo. When other character get same 3-4 hit confirms, they should basically kill 90% of your health bar if they do not drop a combo. The more experienced the players become on said character, the more this will occur for master-level play. Jamie doesn't do that type of damage at the start. He gets around 30-40% total hp from his 4 hit confirms assuming the Jamie player prioritizes drinking over damage. Once he has 4 drinks, now he's doing like 40%+ combos and just his ex palm alone does 15% as hit-confirm but other rush-down character would already win the set. I do think JP is easy S-tier. Just look at his reversal. His reversal counters just about every attack move in the game. it even counters the level 3 DPS. I don't think there is single character that create 50/50s whenever you press any offensive move. Most of the time, when your attacking, the opponent has to guess on your attacks when it is your turn but with JP. He makes you guess on YOUR attacks. In other words, whenever you attack, you actually lose your turn. Despite the fact that he is zoning character, he has surprising amount of rush-down combos along with his full-screen teleport. You'd expect a character that is based off zoning to not be combo oriented but JP is as competent at close-range as he is at long range. Its a lot more complex with deal with his long range zoning then it is to deal with Ryu spamming fireballs.

[@chimpmasterflex]

@@wlt3585 Parries help for the wake up spike, but you're more or less in the same spot unless it was a perfect parry. The obstacle course part is what I don't enjoy about him, but I like his concept and the potential of what he can do. Even if the spikes did 1 damage, I'd still find them pretty obnoxious lol.

[@jacobdrag]

Seeing you making Videos Again is wonderful, as i used to See you not posting! i will start having you as a New subscriber in the day since you Came back to KZbin!

[@DoseofDrix]

Happy to see you making videos again! Loving these Street Fighter vids!

[@heyjeySigma]

hooooly shit Behrudy?? probably havent seen you vids for like 10 years now!! i remember your ancient vids way back in the old YT days lol

[@Emerald3ME]

Great editing, great insight, sick background 👍

[@charlieconley7150]

Your crazy dhalsim is nuts. There is no limit on his teleport and his setups are crazy

[@danneltheflannel]

I would have liked to hear your thoughts on all of them, or your own tier list!

[@akilcharles3473]

The top 5 for me is JP, Kimberly, Marisa, Ken & Guile. And why I do love my main boy Luke he's good solid character and should be in A tier at best.

[@mibbzx1493]

Kimberly is easy to beat, when shes jumping on your head with F-heavy kick you can jab it, go air to air, air throw it and use DP if you have one. Her slide is hella unsafe and punishable, just try to feint or throw projectile to bait the slide out. I dont think i’ve lost to a kimberly yet because i played as her in the beta. She probably a hard C+ tier to me, she can bully new players tho but alot of that stuff is fake asf

[@GoSpawn_]

​@@mibbzx1493 somebody did their homework

[@joshflics2183]

why were you and luke so synchronized at 3:50

[@manuelito1233]

Been here since the machinima days, glad to see ya back behr.

[@Fazushi]

Behr hope to see you at some tournaments. I've been watching since the SF4 arcade edition dudly videos. You got me into metal gear with your quick reviews too

[@djmus]

Behr in my feed again??!! OH YES! been missing ur content

[@Sadwav]

Wait, where did this tier list come from? Every website seems to have their own list.

[@draquetrey9251]

Monday Night Fights would probably do great in 2023. Glad youre back man

[@ve9457]

What UP behrudy!!

[@SlaineReigns]

Behr you're really back? My god man it's been ages. It's great to see you again.

[@arcfighterx2586]

Wait wait wait is this THE Behrudy who put those sf4 tutorials on Machinima wayyyy back when

[@kaynify]

Bro when they bringing dudley!!

[@Hifrombuddha]

I used to watch you when I was 12 and remember getting sent to detention because I kept saying "We getting in dat ass" in class. I'm 23 now and still say it. Missed you Papa Behr.

[@Behrudy]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kvk1]

Those cabs are so clean.

[@bert6236]

The views on the tier list video tho 👀

[@realitycheck816]

damn is that a mgs shirt

[@leestephenson1578]

I think it's a RealityCheck - Quran t shirt

[@stupidmonkeywing]

i must be missing some reference, why is JP a mortal kombat character?

[@ytcmbt2505]

i know its early, but this right here deadass might be the best SF of all time

[@Getdown8319]

If tokido plays the character they r probably S tier. we may not know why yet but he does.

[@GillXM]

I swear the only characters i want to play are jamie,jp,marisa, and zangief but man classic is such a difficult thing to use for me. So much of trying to time your button's after a certain input i can't wrap my fingers with

[@TheDimsh]

I missed you man! glad to see you're well! The netcode is so good now, I've always wanted to play with you! Do you plan on making some sort of discord?

[@dinkinson]

I miss this dude holly shit

[@SBSmashers]

Dang those cabs back there are seeeeexy....

[@benjamin_lee]

Behrudys thoughts and opinions are gospel as far as I'm concerned 😎

[@shadowseal22]

Dee Jay eatin good

[@exiaR2x78]

JP I think a lot of it is because he's new so people dont really understand the match up against him yet so id agree with him being A tier. Funny enough I think Sim beats JP haha he can get around his zoning pretty easy but I do agree with Sim seeming weak. The reward of jabbing him out of teleports is really high in this game. I think top 5 at the moment would be Guile, Luke, Juri, Cammy, Honda, Ken

[@exiaR2x78]

@Lets_Get_This_Bread yeah definitely his zoning is very different from past sf titles so its a lot of learning. Opps haha half asleep miss counted 🥴

[@cdkee3010]

So glad to see you making videos again! Really does feel like a new era is upon us with this game! Been watching since your early vids, keep up the great work. Petition Capcom for Dudley in season 2!

[@Jonathan_Tai]

Dhalsim carried me to Gold lol I'm just vibing throwing fireballs and running away. Jamie is doo doo tier. Can't keep our drinks after round and the character is only good at like 3, 4 drinks.

[@GoSpawn_]

I feel Jamie is a very strong character but what makes him fall off is the drink mechanic he has to sacrifice oki to get a drink in...which ultimately stops him from gaining momentum but......lvl 4 Jamie is retarded lol

[@fuman7057]

Chun-Li is low-B or upper-C

[@nightmarecomics1]

I think Zangief was slighted too

[@Doyenn]

I'm looking for someone with decent to advanced skills in this game to help me get better. Everyone I fight just leaves whether I win or lose

[@tomaswellmannnavarrete5793]

We can play some long sets if you want bro!

[@Doyenn]

@@tomaswellmannnavarrete5793 bet. What u play on?

[@tomaswellmannnavarrete5793]

On PC bro, I'll probably catch some games later in the afternoon.

[@Doyenn]

@@tomaswellmannnavarrete5793 ok u got discord or anything?

[@tomaswellmannnavarrete5793]

@@Doyenn We can add ourselves in the game and make a room when we are online right? I don't have discord

[@gottakeepup]

Damn rank 1 player is dhalsim 1.2k games 80% win rate man must be nuts

[@ArthurxAriza]

Jaime not at the bottom? HELL YEAH!

[@jamesmedina7763]

Feel like everyone is speaking very highly of this game , looking forward to what’s to come

[@HungarianWarHorse]

Al Gore Rhythm

[@ronaldwilliams9635]

Luke is top tier, I whoop ass with Gold Status now

[@damazsta]

Jamie is at least A-Tier

[@josetojoestar7533]

What do you mean Dhalsym bottom tier? Theres no way

[@awesomereviews1561]

No piece of tech will make Zangief move up. Without the green hand, he will always be low tier.

[@finnExterminatus]

For newer players an example of how you should treat tierlists. Akuma in tekken 7 was rated low - ok mid tier for the first 2 years of the game. You can even now find these tierlists as proof. Knee rated akuma mid tier. A character which is now consideres the best character (AFTER being nerfed in s3 ,S4 ….. and s5) players will find setups , improve their execution , metas will build and suddenly a character considered „unplayable in tournaments“ will be the undisputed best character, if your hands are good enough and he will be forever hated , even tho everyone agreed for 2 years, that he is a fanservice gimmick and not even really playable.

[@mibbzx1493]

Akauma was never rated low on tierlist 🤣 he got nerfed 6 times in the first few months even before it was fully released and he’s been broken and dominating in its entire life cycle of 6 years but we get your point

[@finnExterminatus]

Dude , i am not making this up. Google tekken tier list season 1 . Speedkicks rated akuma low tier. ACTUAL Low tier in season 1. google s1 tier list, go to pictures. You find the tier list and an actual article talking about it.

[@finnExterminatus]

And he did dominate nothing until super akouma came around and won against CBM. THIS is the moment when people started complaining, before that no one said he was broken or OP

[@finnExterminatus]

I do not understand your comment, do you think i would write „you can even find these tierlists now as proof“ , if that was not true?

[@finnExterminatus]

@rock and greetings from a fellow mtg player. I like the emperor avatar. May the top deck be with you, my friend.

[@EconicUprising]

I glad to see people realize that Manon isn't that strong. She is going to get even worse over time.

[@chickennoodles5265]

I was playing Zangief until I met this JP.... Never again.

[@Khemith_Demon_Hours]

Ken was the better shoto in SF4 and SF5, it doesn't matter what style the game is. Ken has almost always been better.

[@ballzz2thewall]

This is just completely incorrect

[@marcelojavierzayassisa7389]

Bro Luke as much as I love him is low A

[@vortexwf]

Lily really getting no love lol

[@runbaa9285]

JP's main problem is... he's not fun to fight against... Deejay is annoying with all his feints and sonic-speed drive rush, but he's also fun to fight against, for example. The good kind of annoying. JP just makes the arena an obstacle course and it's annoying as hell...

[@DANCERcow]

Scrub quote! "This character isn't fun to fight against therefore we need nerfs!" Get gud and quit complaining! Find a way around the bullshit or get yourself a second and third pocket main... Like any sane person would! Learn to adapt, game is only a week old!

[@mattyryon]

@@DANCERcow No he needs nerfs because he has the highest relative representation in the top 1000 because he has no bad matchups and 2 8-2 matchups. You're 2.5x more likely to make the top 1000 if you play JP than Ken (the most popular character) and 6x more likely than Zangief.

[@ADukesJustice]

@@DANCERcow you must be a JP player. OP didn't even say he needed to be nerfed and neither did some of the other comments you replied to. All they said was he's annoying, every fighting game has annoying characters

[@TheTinkleFairy]

There are a lot of sim players in A3 cos he's busted in that game.

[@DANCERcow]

Don't believe or respect tier lists unless they are at least 6 months after release!

[@KKLKRUIZER]

I hate modern controls so much

[@loweloking88]

I disagree 100% with everything on this entire list

[@JohnSmith-rr3jt]

There is literally no way Ken or Juri are S-tier if JP isn't. Also Kimberly is definitely A-tier minimum, and so is Manon. Gief is at least A-tier also.