First Time Watching Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones

[@sortastupid]

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[@pancakes7778]

someone uploaded your kung fu panda 4 reaction on youtube

[@rohitdodah]

Guys new seasone 3 clip has been released for vox machina please react to it the release dat is there to

[@42otaku50]

Just want to point out the fact that palpatine told dooku to kill padme but he didn’t wanna do it so he sent jango fett but jango fett didn’t wanna do it so he sent another bounty hunter, but she didn’t wanna do it so she sent a droid but the droid didn’t wanna do it to the droid sent the centipedes 😂😂

[@D3viant517]

@@42otaku50everyone really said “nahhhh…I don’t really feeeel like it…”

[@alexninten8818]

Are you going to watch the clone wars cartoon that came out before episode 3 and was made to bridge the gap between 2 and 3 an introduces new characters that will be important and expect to have already seen before watching 3?

[@tortoiseoflegends4466]

Usually I hate how Clone Wars is constantly recommended to *every* Star Wars reaction... but these guys would love the shit out of Clone Wars, their enthusiasm for these movies is awesome. I really hope it gets a slot on the channel.

[@professorjoe6640]

honestly i would hope they watch the clone wars show (up to season 6) then watch the third movie

[@faithnfire4769]

Including the 2003 miniseries! just for the heck of it. Honestly both are good as an "after the movies" set in my opinion

[@shanenonwolfe4109]

The Clone Wars is the best

[@IamnotMethisisnotI]

THIS! They are the perfect reactors for it! The sheer amount of foreshadowing and hints placed within the clone wars would leave them giddy.

[@lukescrew1981]

Why? It's dogshit

[@passerinity]

Some fun facts about Christopher Lee (the actor for Count Dooku): • Was in the Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare (British special forces) during WW2 and tracked down Nazis • Was both the original Dracula and Saruman in LOTR (also instructed the director of LOTR movie what sound a person makes when they’re stabbed in the back) • Spoke like 10 languages fluently • Was the cousin of Ian Flemming and thus basis for James Bond • Descendent of Charlemagne • Met JRR Tolkien in person • He was a personal friend of Peter Cushing (who played Grand Moff Tarkin in Episode IV) • And finally: created and sang in a heavy metal album

[@en4833]

Yeah, Christopher Lee is an absolute badass

[@SobiTheRobot]

Dude was genuinely amazing

[@pickleboy6059]

He didn’t just meet but was friends with jrr Tolkien I’m pretty sure

[@ThoraxetheImpaile100]

And was an expert fencer, I believe. It was his expertise in the art that was implemented into Dooku's fighting style that would give birth to the lore of Form II of lightsaber combat, known as Makashi.

[@passerinity]

@@ThoraxetheImpaile100 that and pretty sure that’s why he was given a curved hilt

[@mimic1984]

I'm only saying this now because it's a common misconception...Clone Troopers are not, I repeat NOT Stormtroopers. Clones are genetically cloned (hence the name) while Stormtroopers are just normal people that were recruited by the Empire. 💜

[@quillalmighty]

Slight correction the fist generation of storm troopers were clones, but clones had stopped being produced after the clone wars so they had to enlist civilians to become stormtroopers to replace the ones that were falling in battle. so yes the ones from the original trilogy are regular people, but there were clone stormtroopers.

[@megamonster3538]

This is crucial they know.

[@Rommel_209]

My favourite variation of clone trooper is the scout trooper with the green camo & also the clone galactic marine

[@MrNotyobusiness]

PREECH🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@TheMaskGamer2007]

You can tell the difference, Clones have excellent aim, and Stormtroopers don't.

[@timothycambron]

“Two there shall be, no more, no less. A Master and an Apprentice. One to embody the power, the other to crave it” -Darth Bane’ s rule of Two code

[@itsthatmemelowell]

🙏preach

[@scaredscorpion]

"fuck that shit I'm having all the apprentices" - Darth Sidious

[@alfwinch24]

​@@scaredscorpion I think he only has one at a time.

[@AjZ530]

@@alfwinch24 yup, first Maul, then dooku, then Vader

[@KimFareseed]

​@@scaredscorpionEach one a pawn in his grand plan.

[@OverlordNico]

Essentially, the reason why only two sith exist is because of a Sith code known as the Rule of Two. The rule states that the only two sith that should exist are the master and the apprentice. When the training is completed, the apprentice is supposed to slay their master to become the new one. It’s to ensure that the Sith are always more powerful with each passing generation.

[@TheHunterkiller96]

The main reason for the rule of two was because Sith are always backstabbing each other. If there are only two of them, then theoretically the stronger one will prevail, rather then the weaker ones working together to kill the strongest.

[@Drungip]

"It's to ensure the next generation of sith are stronger than the last" Malgus:😑

[@ЯАга-я4л]

​@@TheHunterkiller96not just that, it's also to make sure that multiple students don't gang in the master, so each of them would be weaker

[@glennwelsh9784]

The Sith are all about greed and a lust for power. So inevitably, the Sith even turn on each other because they can't stand any other Sith being more powerful than them. I believe there were even wars between the Sith within the Star Wars lore, and the population of the Sith sharply declined as a result. They were also in constant conflict with the Jedi, which also impacted their numbers. It's hard to survive when you're constantly being threatened by both friends and enemies. So the Rule of Two was created to make sure that the ways of the Sith would survive. With only two Sith in existence at any time, it allowed them to fly under the radar and avoid detection by the Jedi, and also made it less likely for them to betray each other as the only Sith master and apprentice who are essential to keeping the Sith going. But even then, they do turn on each other eventually, as the apprentice inevitably usurps their master to become the master themselves, and the master is always looking for the strongest apprentice.

[@superluigiac]

"One to hold the power, and one to crave it"

[@nikot.9920]

Im telling you, you guys will love the clone wars it gives so much more added weight to episode three and some of the later shows. Also I'm sure a few people have left comments already describing this but the rule of two was created for the same reason that Ruff said, less in fighting and to give the Jedi a false sense of security. It allowed the Sith to pull strings in the shadows for a thousand years before Anakin's fall to the dark side.

[@leovk5779]

Yes. Given how they loved the prequels wholeheartedly, they will love the animated series the clone wars. I mean, it was generally loved both by the fans of Stars wars that liked the prequels AND the ones that disliked the prequels. It starts a bit childish and slow, but quickly becomes good (let me present you these supposedly faceless characterless clones... Ho boy is that a wrong assumption if there ever was), then awesome, then awesomer, then heartbreaking.

[@MatthewTeachout-xj4yy]

Same

[@leifenby1271]

its even worse when you realize every single one of padmes doubles/guards, are her close friends

[@Fordo007]

Though Corde wasn't one of the handmaids she had in Phantom Menance, so at the very least all of them are still alive.

[@eviljbrian]

1:12:00 Small detail, Jango DID attempt to get away. If you look closely at his jetpack, he tries to activate it, however since it was damaged from being trampled by the beast he killed, it misfires and only shoots sparks out of the jets. And upon his decapitation, if you look at the shadow, you can see the shadow of his head coming out of the helmet.

[@marcobertoni7566]

The Clone Wars Series really does make this film even better.

[@wingedswordslayer]

I think the problem was that the Clone Wars were supposed to last for years and when Episode 3 came out, it didn't really feel like it. Plus the Clone Wars show fleshes out the Anakin/Obi-Wan relationship a ton to the point where they feel less than former Master/Apprentice and more genuine friends which in extension makes Episode 3 hit harder.

[@kahtyman7293]

@@wingedswordslayer that was the issue with their relationship, Anakin sees Obi-Wan as father figure (what Qui Gon supposed to be) and Obi-Wan sees Anakin as brother

[@kahtyman7293]

@@wingedswordslayer wasn't plagues killed by sidious in the sleep? witch makes him weaker than his master

[@Ringking-ws7bz]

there not prepared for rebels and Chopper if they think R2 was only Droid that had a will of his own cause Chopper is insane really

[@Imperials3nate]

​@@kahtyman7293 Noted for my Prequel au. Have Jar Jar/Plagues killed alike Dookou instead of being simply "killed in his sleep"

[@patrickstyle24816]

Hayden got so much hate for the Prequels, but I'm so glad he's being appreciated now

[@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly]

The problem wasnt him it was the dialogue like the dialogue with padme was rough. It made anakin look more like a creep than romantic.

[@gampie13]

Well, most of all the hate, stemmed from the fact, that Gorge Lucas cant write dialogue for shit

[@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly]

@@gampie13 true he is an exceptional director but writing dialogue isnt for him. You can see the vision but there some things holding it back.

[@gampie13]

@@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly Yupp, amazing world builder, good at overall story, but shit at dialogue xD. That is why empire is such a good movie, he had somone holding him in check when it came to dialogue

[@Fordo007]

It's also because Episode II was Anakin at his worst, he's going through nightmares about his mother, he's been dealing with Obi-Wan's very by the code and critical training, he's an outside in the Jedi, he gets reintroduced back to one of the only people he's every deeply connected with and has feelings for... he's in a maelstrom of emotions and not trained on how to deal with them beyond 'don't have them'. Up until he meets Padme the interaction he and Obi-Wan have is pleasant and harmless ribbing, both are laughing. It's after when Anakin is with Padme that he starts venting all the built of resentment and arrogance. Episode II is all about showing Anakin's faults and laying the ground work for why he falls. Hayden doesn't have a lot of room to make Anakin really likeable when that is the main theme of it. And Lucas's dialogue and direction make it harder. When your director is telling you 'no be more wooden' and everyone says your bad for acting wooden... what can you do?

[@mimic1984]

For reference, Anakin is 19 and Padmé is 24 roughly when they married. 💜

[@Phatooine]

Anakin was 20 according to the AOTC novel. In fact, it says he just had his 20th birthday. 10 years is a round number. If you were born on May 4, 1999; The Phantom Menace events could have happened in March 2009, but Anakin is 9 because he hasn't had his 10th birthday yet, but the Attack of the Clones events could have happened in May 2019, right after Anakin turned 20. Still rounds off at 10 years, but it would explain why Anakin was 9 in one movie, 20 in another while saying it's been 10 years.

[@scb7752]

Gotta love that age gap, which is kinda widened by the maturity difference😅

[@ishaykuwithaSHDOCLAW]

And they first flirted with each other when Anakin was 9 and Padme was 14

[@Tm-dn9ob]

21:27 it’s not always a fallen Jedi but that is the quickest way… palpatean was recruited at a young age by someone and never came under the Jedis notice

[@anupamtiwari5587]

He was recruited by Darth Plageus, right? And he was the one who killed him? Or am I misremembering stuff?

[@Tm-dn9ob]

@@anupamtiwari5587 I think so… he was the apprentice in the story… in fact the plan that he was using was originally made by plague’s master

[@miquelcanosasanteularia1678]

2:05 the famous rule of two, created by darth bane. Before there were armies of sith, dark force users,.. but they always killed each other. Now it is secrecy until there is the plan

[@purpledragon1945]

i still dont get it, they still kill eachother off constantly

[@tres7351]

Yes but that's part of the point. If an apprentice is so powerful they can kill their master, they are the better sith. Then that apprentice becomes the master and takes a new apprentice that will in turn become stronger and kill them. It's a way to keep growing stronger than every Sith before them.

[@kahtyman7293]

it wasn't his idea, he studied holocrons of some long gone sith lord that proposed the rule of two, but it was Bane who made it real with killing all strong sith with deception of killing all jedi this "thought bomb" (i don't know proper english name but it was from books) rest just died in war i suppose

[@rikk319]

It's a stupid plot device. Worlds full of Sith force wielders and their apprentices, leading fleets full of Sith Empire troopers and war droids, as in the Old Republic, are hella cool and a lot of fun. No more than two wandering around for 1,000 years? Yeah, worked ok in the original trilogy, when the Rule of Two wasn't even invented yet...but lots of fans love seeing masses of jedi and sith fighting.

[@tres7351]

@@rikk319 well sure having a lot is good in theory, but they kept killing each other. With only two, they brought down the galactic Republic and the entire Jedi order.

[@rainbowquartz9513]

Another fun fact: in a deleted scene anakin, Padmé, and R2 go and visit Padmé’s sister Sola, her parents, and Sola’s children; for dinner.

[@PheonixFire]

I always forget Luke and Leia do have an extended family on Padme's side.

[@matthewbee128]

@@PheonixFirein fairness their only appearances were in those deleted scenes and another particular scene at the end of revenge of the sith

[@BcBTheta]

Idgaf , that deleted scene is canon to me 😂

[@leifenby1271]

watching anakin being groomed by palpatine is the worst and most angering thing because you just want to go through the screen and kick palptaines ass

[@Senkoau]

I want to give Anakan a smack on the back of the head. "Obi Wan is holding me back" proceeds to throw a tantrum. I understand he's a teenager and goes through some emotional trauma but seriously he just doesn't grasp that he is too emotional, selfish and unstable to be a knight much less on the council.

[@tehawfulestface1337]

In the Phantom Menace novel, a Jedi can see ahead that they can anticipate laser bolts and light sabre blows to block them. A Sith uses the Dark Side to neutralize that Jedi ability, block their senses. Siths are trained to kill Jedi who have to rely on their skill in sword fighting without the Force assisting them. As Yoda said, a shroud has fallen that they just don’t sense the presence of a Sith, they can’t even see the future. I break down and cry everytime I hear Anakin say, “I hate them!” My sister walked out of the theater the moment Anakin’s mom died. She turned her back on Star Wars for good.

[@RedShirtGuy96]

I mean it's emotional, but what's the context for abandoning the franchise? If I abandoned every franchise that made me experience emotions and shed tears I'd not have a lot of things to enjoy. I'll admit the sequels could have been better but Revenge of the Sith might be one of the most melancholic bittersweet films of all time. It's a film that can't ever have a good ending because it's a tragedy a perfect one to set up the original Trilogy. AoTC is a good film too. And like most I agree that Phantom Menace is probably the weakest of the prequels but I have no particular hate for it.

[@tehawfulestface1337]

@@RedShirtGuy96 my sister realized that she may not continue when little Ani said goodbye to his mom in The Phantom Menace. She knew that Ani would become Vader, kill Obi-wan. She had an idea what was coming with that look before he slaughtered the Sandpeople. When she became a mother any film where a mother is torn away from her child, she doesn’t feel the need to see it anymore. I understand her now. When I became a dad any film that I’ve enjoyed in the past where a child dies, I may not watch it again. I grew up on zombie movies, but Sophia in The Walking Dead broke me.

[@MeanMrMustard1]

Did "Baby Yoda" bring your sister back?

[@tehawfulestface1337]

@@MeanMrMustard1 no luck there. Whenever her family comes over for dinner, I’ve shown her some highlights, recaps on KZbin. I can’t give spoilers here for the guys. Let’s say, when I showed her the highlights of Revenge of the Sith, it only convinced her she made the right choice not to go further. She was also a gamer before becoming a mom. She was able to sit through the Silent Hill films. It seems that Star Wars was more ‘real’ for her.

[@bradenanders9105]

Scooby is over, there is a slot for the clone wars series.

[@Parambolumberienriatta]

Hayden was a great Anakin and I'll die on that hill

[@DigitalPand3mic]

There is no other answer

[@DavidJohnson-mv2cy]

He did the best he could with what they gave him. Really sad how hard he had it

[@DJC-System]

I love the recognition he has gotten from fans as of now. He absolutely deserves it. George Lucas has always has oddly written dialogue. He performed what he was given to the best of his abilities. Seeing the audience give him a standing ovation in the recent interview with his return as Darth Vader and appearances of Anakin in recent series warms my heart. Even Mark Hamel (sorry if I butchered the spelling) has said that George Lucas's dialogue was impossible to get through. Hayden deserves the praise he has received as of late. I just wish the same could be said for the child actor for Anakin

[@derpderpin1568]

@@DJC-System Dialogue is actually perfect for a teenager that's never been allowed to explore his sexual thoughts and feelings. Peoples averse reaction to it is far more weird than the pretty normal dialogue itself.

[@mimic1984]

RIP Christopher Lee (or as I knew him as a child Dr. Catheter from Gremlins 2, Count Dooku, Dracula, and a countless list of other roles) 💜

[@a_balloon]

Jesus calm down man, you are 3 minutes into the video and already spamming comments. This isn't live chat

[@TheMaskGamer2007]

He did a marvelous performance as Count Dooku

[@mimic1984]

@a_balloon Nah, I'm good. I'll comment as much and as quickly as I please.

[@benschultz1784]

Also a real life spy, assassin, saboteur, and all-around badass. Partly the inspiration for James Bond and Henry Cavill essentially plays Lee in _The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare_

[@KingsBard]

Saruman, Wilbur Wonka

[@emilylewis5373]

So lore for Dooku. Dooku was one of the lost 20, jedi masters who left the order (side note padawans and knights have left the order as well, but only 20 masters). He became upset with the rules of the order, and left after finishing Qui-Gon jinn's training, and left the order peacefully. Only after he left the order did he join the dark side. In the jedi order he would basically be Obi-wan's grandfather, and Anakin's great-grandfather.

[@hrayz]

Masters to Apprentices: Yoda -> Dooku -> Qui-Gon -> Obi-wan -> Anakin -> Ahsoka. (then later) Obi-wan/Yoda -> Luke.

[@Cosmos6745]

Yes. It is true that the real reason why he had a purple saber is because Jackson wanted a purple lightsaber. However, the reason if someone has a purple lightsaber in the Star Wars universe is because they are able to use the dark side of the force to their advantage while still being a user who is mostly light sided. Mace was one of the only guys who could to this because this is extremely hard to do due to the temptation of the dark side. And they could become corrupted. Which is why rarely anyone has purple sabers.

[@RedShirtGuy96]

I made Cal Kestis have a purple saber in Survivor (haven't played the new one) mostly for the same reason Jackson wanted one, but it's nice that it has an actual lore meaning

[@Senkoau]

Disney lore there, pre Disney the crystal was just a gift that had a high level of sentimental value to him. Just like the reason all Jedi had blue and green sabres was that those were the only colour Kyber crystals in Ilum which was the only source the Jedi had remaining to them. Post Disney Khyber crystals change colour depending on the user.

[@EzraReay]

@@Senkoau Honestly, for once I actually like the Disney canon version when it comes to lightsaber colors and meanings. that's about it though, can't really think of anything else Disney canon actually improved with Star Wars.

[@Senkoau]

@@EzraReay I wouldn't mind it so much if they used the explanation for some other crystal used by the new jedi. But the explanation doesn't really explain why all the old Jedi had blue/green only except Mace. Just say the Kyber crystals were lost with Ilum and they're using something else then it'd be fine.

[@passingrando6457]

​@@EzraReay I still prefer the old canon. Jedi were drawn to the crystal that resonated with them best anyway. Different crystals giving the lightsabers different qualities was always cool to me. Windu's crystal was an exceedingly rare Hurrikaine gem, which gave the blade the ability to more easily penetrate defenses, like energy shields. Pontites helped the user calm and center themselves, shards of the Kaiburr would strengthen force talents of the user (telekinesis for Galen Marek, healing for Meetra Surik), Opilas made for more intense blades that cut through materials faster, Solaris were incorruptible and would drive away the Dark Side, but would abandon their user if they began to waver from the Light... It was just so much cooler than a one size fits all crystal like Disney's Kyber.

[@Ravenpoe121]

The reason the Jedi never suspect that Palpatine knows the force (and thus might wonder just where he learned it) is because he's so powerful that he can completely mask his presence from them. And Palpatine friggen LOVES doing all this shit right under their nose and they can't even see it.

[@stingerbrg]

@21:45 Members of the Jedi Order aren't the only ones capable of using the Force. Sith aren't "evil Jedi", they are Sith. The could have been a Jedi, they could have been a Nightsister, they could've been a random child that was Force sensitive.

[@gampie13]

"sith" specifically, are decendant (by doctrine and code) from the original sith, which where the resoult of milennia of crossbreeding between the dark jedi that where exiled by the order, and the sithari from drummond kass that established korriban as the capital of the ancient sith empire. After long interbreeding of the dark jedi and the sithari, a hybrid species that where called sith emerged. After almost going extinct after their war with the republic, most sith, where human or species other than sith. From there, we jump forward, to Darth Bane, finding a holocron from Revan while he was a sith, and establishes the Rule of 2. Which then is followed till the movies, where sideous, is the last sith in the line of Bane and the rule of 2. So yes, "sith" by both teaching and practice, are in essence dark jedi, or jedi that turned to the dark side. Though, they would never admit it, as they generaly looked down on jedi that turned, as not completly on the path of the dark side, and only the ones that where trained in the dark side from the start, where "true" sith. But they are still all technically following the legacy of the dark jedi that where exiled from Tython in the first jedi war

[@Elijah_Elias]

1:10:24 The lore story for it is that Mace Windu uses a fighting form that basically takes his opponents’ dark side energy and pushes it back at them making him stronger. So he uses the dark side without actually falling to it. He can control himself. The others use blue if they are pretty much plain Jedi and Green if they focus less on combat and more on learning the force.

[@Bacontats]

Yup! Juyo. It’s actually the same style as Darth Mauls’s except Juyo never falls to the darkside.

[@Senkoau]

Not entirely accurate. Juyo and Maces Vapaad were so dangerous because a lot of users did fall to their dark side. There were three or four Vapaad users Mace, his apprentice and another Jedi who helped him develop it. Not sure if that other Jedi had an apprentice as well but only Mace didn't fall to the dark side from channelling aggression and anger.

[@Elijah_Elias]

@@Senkoau so what wasn’t accurate?

[@Senkoau]

@@Elijah_Elias the statement Juyo never falls to the darkside when it's one of the riskiest forms to cause that.

[@Elijah_Elias]

@@Senkoau “So HE uses the dark side without actually falling to it. HE can control himself”.

[@Lupinemancer87]

I was thinking last Movie, when Ruff said that he loved that there were so many more Lightsaber battles then the original Trilogy, if that's the case he is gonna love this movie. Also, I don't know if Ruff knows this, but the hairstyle we saw Anakin have at the end of the first Movie, and that Obi-Wan had as well, is not a unique style to him, it's something all Padawans have to show they are still an apprentice. Once they gets promoted to Master, the little braid is cut off by a council member and they can let their hair grow however they want, like Qui-Gon had in the previous one and Obi-Wan have now.

[@Raged_Consumer]

Not master but knight. You can be on the council but not be granted the rank of master.

[@Lupinemancer87]

@@Raged_Consumer Fair, I guess I mispoke.

[@SophisticatedDingus]

This is outrageous! It's unfair! How can you be on the Council and not be a master?​@@Raged_Consumer

[@Raged_Consumer]

Take a seat young@@SophisticatedDingus

[@unterbm]

When the prime minister talks about how many are ready and on the way, he is not talking about individual clones (1.2M troops would be nothing in a galactic war), but about units of clones. There is no confirmed number, but I've read somewhere that one clone unit is believed to consist of 64 clones. So we would be talking about 12.8M ready clones, with 64M more on the way.

[@sebastiancawsey5024]

That makes so much more sense now, thanks.

[@cynicat74]

A unit is just any kind of military grouping. It can range from a squad, through to entire divisions. I think Lucas probably did that to keep it intentionally vague, because the sheer scale of a conflict like The Clone Wars would be difficult for any one Man to fathom.

[@leifenby1271]

Count Dooku is one of the greatest Sith of all time and his and Quis relationship makes me bawl

[@masterswordwielder]

"Begun, the Clone War has" Oohhhh yes it has. Something very bad in-universe, but IRL, it kick-started story lines that are still going on in current projects. I can't wait till you guys watch Clone Wars, man

[@mimic1984]

I personally think Hayden is a good actor, I just think they didn't give him or Natalie Portman that good of a script. Not to mention, his fighting style is so good. 💜

[@illogicalbear6200]

Lucas is known for stale dialogue. His real talent is imagining the wild, out there stuff. He tends to struggle with some more mundane details.

[@rainbowprism6242]

​@@illogicalbear6200considering there are videos about actors complaining about lines and asking for rewrites or outright removal of some, I can see that.

[@camiart_casual]

Considering that Anakin is SUPPOSED to be a bit of a whiny cringe teenager who craves power but doesn't know much about the world, he did an excellent job! That moment when he goes off about killing all of the Tuscans... chilling. I don't think we're meant to like Anakin in this movie and a lot of people reacted to hating the character by hating the actor, but Hayden did an amazing job.

[@OneRandomVictory]

I think he's a much better actor now than he was back then. He definitely had a bit of a wooden delivery in these movies (he was better in 3 tbf).

[@dontedoestuff]

Yeah it’s not their fault George Lucas doesn’t know how people talk lol.

[@jesterstyr4584]

Coruscant is an entire planet that is covered by a 1000+ layer city.

[@PyroMaster87]

One detail that i don't know if ya'll noticed or not but when Obi-Wan is talking with Jango Fett. Jango says "I was recruited by a man named Tyranus." Then at the end of the movie when Dooku brings the plans to the emperor, the emperor greets Dooku with "Welcome home Lord Tyranus.". Giving the hint that Dooku recruited Jango for the clone army as well as getting the sepratists to build the droid army...all by the order of the emperor.

[@JCrushFitness]

The Jedi thought the Sith had been extinct for 1000 years. They had been training eachother in secret and passing the teachings down

[@nielgregory108]

The longer a droid goes without being memory wiped, the smarter and more independent they are become. A scary thought. R2 has NEVER been wiped. He has a mind of his own. Thank God he is a good guy. And if you haven't figured it out, Dooku was right the whole time!!!! The Council didn't listen to him and as he said, Qui Gon probably would have sided with him as he knew the Council was short-sighted and arrogant to a fault.

[@BlokHeadAnim]

Dooku was right, but him telling Obi-Wan about Sidious was still a manipulation. He figured out the truth about the Sith, and instead of going on his own path, he adopted a "if you can't beat em, join em" mentality. He and Obi-Wan may have defeated Sidious together. But the Sith would have continued and Dooku would have just taken Sidious's place in the plan.

[@TheSacredSavior]

In the old republic, there were more than 2 Sith. Eventually they created "The Rule of Two". Effectively it caused the Master to train the Apprentice, they would then fight to the death, and the winner found a new Apprentice.

[@masterswordwielder]

Yoda taught Dooku, who taught Qui-Gon, who taught Obi-Wan, who trained Anakin. Palpatine taught both Dooku and Anakin. And then there's multiple master-appretice duos that you don't know about yet that are involved in this chain

[@anupamtiwari5587]

Isn't it technically Yoda-Dooku-Qui Gon-Obi Wan- Anakin? Qui-Gon never really taught Anakin, he died before that could happen.

[@masterswordwielder]

@@LXW-Arts I can't believe I got ten likes on a comment that has so many mistakes😭

[@masterswordwielder]

@@anupamtiwari5587 yeah it's one of two mistakes in this comment that somehow got ten likes. I'm deeply emberassed 😅

[@jfisher1991]

the rule of two was made about 1000 years before these take place. the sith used to be a larger group just like the jedi, but as darkside users seeking more power, there was alot of in house killing and fighting. in the last major war between the sith a jedi, basically the sith were wiped out except for a handful of sith, one of which being was a powerful leader who already had beef with the sith fighting sith, so he formed the rule of two so the sith could hide in the shadows. a master to hold the power, and an apprentice to crave the power.

[@zjjohnson3827]

1:18:42 In case you didn’t know, this part in the scene wasn’t scripted. Sir Christopher Lee was genuinely startled by Hayden Christiansen’s ad lib bumrush, and conjured force lightning irl out of instinct George Lucas liked it so much he left it in the movie

[@exknight39]

22:48 someone probably said it in the episode 6 reaction, but Luke's black suit is white inside, which was revealed when he announces that he was a Jedi like Anakin towards Palpatine in the climax of the movie

[@marcosvannucchi8672]

Before seeing Episode III you should see Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars, it has one of the coolest villain presentations

[@corpsebride42]

I genuinely cannot wait for you guys to watch the clone wars series. Not only is it great tv and absolute peak star wars, but it adds so much more weight to the prequel trilogy and makes you appreciate them so much more ❤

[@mimic1984]

I remember Mace Windu being my favorite Star Wars character when I was a kid (mostly due to his purple lightsaber) then after watching The Clone Wars show, I realized he's badass, but a bit of a buzzkill and a bit of a way too by the book individual. 💜

[@memelord7567]

Not just a bit, he can be a total dick

[@Titanfell-d3i]

If you love Windu I reccomend reading Shatterpoint novel if you haven't yet which goes into his character, thoughts, relationship with his Padawan Vapaad and many other things It's great read and fleshes him out considerably.

[@ScootertrixStudios]

You would LOVE the 2003 animated clone wars limited series. It takes place between episodes 2 and 3. The entire series is about 2 hours long, is action packed, emotional, funny and has some of the COOLEST lightsaber fights and battles in all of Star Wars. Debatably the best prequel media too.

[@firechar27]

More in-world/lore for the lightsaber colors: Green is usually used by Jedi Consulars. They try to find the most peaceful, diplomatic solutions to situations before busting out the lightsaber. Blue is used by Jedi Guardians. They are the more proficient with a lightsaber, and are more skilled in melee combat.

[@internetfriend6701]

20:50 1. Jedi and Sith are opposing force-dedicated cultures (there are others). Sith are not Jedi that turned bad, but Jedi that go bad are often attracted to the Sith. 2. People trained in the Force can sense the Light and Dark in the people and world around them. Palpatine is just very very good at concealing his nature.

[@mickledapickle97]

In reference to the little discusion in the beginning about there is only two. It was because a long long time ago there actually were dozens maybe even hundreds of Sith. But all of them were so power-hungry and wanted control that there was near-constant infighting. To the point where one sith, Darth Bane, was worried that the sith would become extinct. So he took one apprentice, and the two went through and culled all of them until it was just them remaining. Then he instituted the Rule of Two. From then on it was always one master who had all the knowledge. And one apprentice who was trying to get the knowledge so that they could be the new master. Because if this they actually grew much stronger through their new focus on growing rather than taking control.

[@vederianl9723]

Its a decent explanation to cover George's bad idea. One Sith Master getting killed by a Jedi halfway through the training of his apprentice and it all goes to hell. The apprentice loses all that knowledge and can only teach his next apprentice less. Leaving them both vulnerable to all the Jedi out there.

[@mickledapickle97]

@@vederianl9723 That's why they stayed in hiding so long getting as poweful as possible

[@Fordo007]

When every war the Sith Empire fought was lost because Sith kept backstabbing and fighting each other... the rule of two makes sense.

[@toob_noob4381]

​@@vederianl9723 That's why they hid away for 1000 years That's why they went the politics route over military might

[@Kamenriderneo]

33:03 I just want to mention that when he said 200 000 units, he didn't mean 200 000 clones. He meant 200 000 units as in group of soldiers operating together. A clone unit is in fact composed of 3004 clones.

[@Joel-bt4tt]

Really? I always thought it was individual clones.

[@HellBent_]

When you realise that when he sais a million units he really means over 3 billion clones. I never knew that and it makes so much sense

[@jacquesmassard9226]

You know what bad batch, rebels, and clones wars! You guys will love it!

[@cristianrojas9684]

@@jacquesmassard9226 Bad Batch is ass.

[@chadmaster21]

​@@jacquesmassard9226 Fun shows, I enjoyed watching them all!

[@jaxcraft2848]

Love this one! Also, love the fact that Ruff is getting so immersed in this world he was comparing Palpetine's chin to the emporer's and he was like Danny Motta when searching for Alex Brightman in Helluva Boss! XD 6:16: YUP! 18:26: Oh. I never noticed that he meant that quite literally. The foreshadowing! The Jango-fett vs.Obi-Wan fight in the rain was intense!

[@thewinterprince1731]

The reason the jedi can detect jedi but not sith is because each is consciously capable of hiding their presence in the force from the other side. The sith lord is intentionally hiding his force sensitivity from everyone around him, so the jedi cannot detect him. You are correct that jedi are not as prone to hiding themselves because they want to know each other. As for what makes a sith, not all sith are former jedi. Some sith are raised as sith or become such through other means. It really is just a matter of moral alignment.

[@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb]

Count Dooku vs Yoda was awesome 😎

[@KyutwoVideos]

Comments have mentioned this, but the 2003 Star Wars: Clone Wars would be great to react to before Episode 3. Whole series is about 2 hours long of animated shorts explaining events between Ep 2 and 3 before it was retconned. It has a Samurai Jack animation style with popular voice actors, like Padme's voice is Azula's voice from Avatar. This series is what got me into Star Wars.

[@vincentpuccio3689]

There is a story that Peter Jackson tells. He went up to Christopher Lee when he played Saron and said that when Grima worm tongue stabs you in the back, you’re supposed to let out loud scream and Christopher Lee looked in eye and said have you ever heard a man stabbed in the back And Peter Jackson replied no and Christopher Lee said… Well I have. You should definitely read up on his life. He’s the original OG.

[@reneflores5976]

I said it in a previous video and I'll say it again, Clone Wars must be the show that you watch next, it has a lot going on and every series that came after is somehow connected to it

[@landengoodner9841]

They come in pairs due to the Rule of Two. What purpose does it serve? The Rule of Two is a decree established by Sith Lord Darth Bane, which states that there should be only two Sith at any given time: a Master and an Apprentice. This rule was created to ensure the survival of the Sith Order by preventing infighting and internal conflicts that would weaken the organization. Why is it there? The Rule of Two was created to address the Sith’s tendency to destroy each other in their quest for power and control. Darth Bane, who survived the destruction of the ancient Sith Order, recognized that this pattern of behavior would ultimately lead to the downfall of the Sith. By limiting the number of Sith to only two, the Rule of Two aimed to prevent the kind of infighting and power struggles that had previously weakened the Order. The Rule of Two also served as a way to concentrate power and focus the Sith’s efforts on a single goal: to overthrow the Jedi Order and rule the galaxy. With only two Sith, the Master and Apprentice could work together to achieve their goals, rather than being distracted by internal conflicts. In addition, the Rule of Two allowed the Sith to maintain a sense of unity and cohesion, as the Master and Apprentice would be bound together by their shared goal of achieving power and control. This unity would make it easier for the Sith to present a united front against their enemies, including the Jedi. Overall, the Rule of Two was a deliberate attempt by Darth Bane to create a more efficient and effective Sith Order, one that would be better equipped to achieve its goals and survive in a galaxy dominated by the Jedi. If you want more go to Wookieepedia: The Rule of Two

[@DarksideSleemo]

I was actually really surprised at how close he got with just common sense. Like he said, it's just too easy to get stabbed in the back if there's more than two.

[@xaleypoo4779]

The Rule of Two was first thought up by Darth Revan but was implemented by Darth Bane a thousand years before the events of the movies. The theory behind it is the Force gets diluted when it's spread out among too many people, so there should only be two Sith Lords at any given time, a master and an apprentice, "one to embody the power, the other to crave it" as Darth Bane said. The apprentice must kill their master, proving that they have become more powerful, and then take an apprentice of their own to continue the order, and rinse and repeat all the way down to Sidious and Vader.

[@throgdarthebrute]

If you listend to the Weird Al song about Star Wars he tells you the ages... Anakin was 9 and Amidala was 14 during Phantom Menace.

[@drkushajagadeesh6347]

About their hairstyles, jedi padawans generally have short hair with a learner's braid in it (either one or two). When they complete their trials and are about to graduate and become jedi knights, the grandmaster in command cuts their braid off with their lightsaber as a way to signify that they are no longer a learner. That's why Obi Wan had the braid in The Phantom Menace, and didn't in this one.

[@sourswift]

Honestly my only issue with the prequels is the funky dialogue which is pretty prominent in this movie, there won’t be as much there in the next one (which I’m sure y’all will enjoy)

[@Phoenix-ug1ru]

highly recommend spending a few minutes watching the deleted scenes for extra Anakin and Padme relationship building, makes it a bit nicer and less confusing, they really should have kept those scenes in

[@itsthatmemelowell]

Dooku and Maul are the GOATS bro,The Clone Wars animated show did them justice times 10

[@chefskiss6179]

Just wanna say I absolutely love looking at these through your fresh eyes, so much welcomed enthusiasm! Thanks. Just in case ya never noticed... something Lucas said about "the poetry of two's"... the endings, the very last shot of the first two flicks of the trilogy (prequels) are repeated with the last shot of the first two of the middle trilogy: the medals ceremony (ep 1+4) and the backs of the Skywalker couple flanked by the two droids (ep 2+5).

[@CrimsonAnimations-sx7tj]

Sith are originally a normal person, like the jedi, they come from normal people that are taught the dark side of the force But jedi can also become sith, and sith can redeem themselves and become jedi

[@nataku5379]

Theres also a theory that R2D2 is actually the main character, being the only one fully present in every movie+

[@passerinity]

I feel like it’s a cool thing to point out that there are only three prominent bounty hunters who are known Jedi-killers: one you’ll meet if (when) you watch the Clone Wars, and then Jango and Boba Fett.

[@J__T]

Several fun facts for ya: Sam Jackson's sabre prop, in addition to being purple, apparently has motherf*cker written on the handle due to a clause in Sam's acting contract where he _must_ always have something or say something with that word. Another Windu fact is that he, in much the same vein as Dooku but at different times, was Yoda's padawan. Oddly, both Dooku and Windu have history of struggling with the dark side; Dooku, later in life, and Windu when he was much younger. Also, of Jedi titles, Yoda is the grandmaster but Windu is the Master of the Order. The actor who plays C3PO was quite mad at being replaced by a CGI model because of his belief that his body language is more believable as a robot. Bonus fact: he is the only actor who voices his character in every single piece of media from movies, shows, and games (at least as far as I know). Dooku's turn to the dark side sadly came from news of Qui-gon's death thus showing that he deeply cared about someone else despite his often cold demeanor. Dooku is also the only Sith to never have yellow eyes; his remain blue throughout. Jango's backstory, or at least his original one prior to Disney's fanfic retcons, had him part of a Mandalorian sec that was entirely killed by a group of Jedi. Jango proceeded to beat all of them to death by himself and barehanded. The resulting aftermath was found by a younger Dooku which is why the former Jedi chose Jango to be the source of the Clone Army. Dooku is played by Sir Christopher Lee whose life is quite possibly more fantastical at times than most of fiction. Lee was a WWII spy, his cousin based the James Bond series loosely off of his life, he actually knew a decent bit about swordplay, he met the Russian Queen and had her help when he portrayed Rasputin, he played several horror characters including Dracula and Frankenstein's monster, he was Saruman the White in Lord of the Rings and the only actor on said set who had met and had lunch with JRR Tolkein, he lectured Peter Jackson on what a man stabbed in the back sounds like, he can trace his lineage back to King Charlemagne, and, my personal favorite, he loved Symphonic Metal of which he had made at least two albums of which you must listen to - they rock! I have more fun facts for Episode III, can't wait!

[@bio-phobia3895]

Besides Dooku being Yoda's apprentice, He is a master duelist and one of the stronger siths when it comes to dueling, He's very composed and intelligent

[@Dekumon]

Really hope you plan on going through the Clone Wars animated series. It's straight up one of the best pieces of Star Wars content outside of the main movies.

[@christophervanoster]

0:51 people rag on about the CGI vs practical effects on the prequels constantly. However. Episode 1 alone used more practical effects and physical props then all of the original 3 movies combined. There’s not as much cgi as people think once you look into it

[@jacquesmassard9226]

The cgi complaint is non sense. I don't even think these movies are good, but it is the editing and dialogue are the issue, not the cgi

[@sebastiancawsey5024]

Palpatine not only has the ability to mask his Dark Side aura/presence, but he also masquerades it behind artifacts he has put in his Chancellor's Office, which has connections with the Dark Side. It is one of the reasons why Palpatine is so confident in hiding himself in plain sight of the Jedi, mocking them. It is also a subtle jab back at the Jedi who have their Temple built upon a former Dark Side something (can't remember what it was called) which was done to supposedly "balance" out the Dark Side aura there. But that happened well over a millennia ago, lore wise.

[@rainbowpegacornstudios]

I love the fight between Dooku and Yoda so much. Also, the 3 beasties sent in to kill Obi-Wan, Anakin and Padmé are a reek (the rhino-looking one), an aklay (the one that looks like a praying mantis) and a nexu (the tiger-looking one). Fun fact: Samuel L. Jackson asked the producers if his character could have a purple lightsaber, so he could find himself easily during the Battle of Geonosis in the sea of blue and green lightsabers....and because it's his favorite color. (Mine too, honestly)

[@mamluk]

"There is always two, a master and an apprentice". This is a rule set up by a previous Sith lord. Before, when there were too many sith lords, there were always power plays, stabbing in the back, and getting in the way. So, one of the sith lords set up a rule that there would only be two sith. Master and apprentice. And to become a master, the apprentice must strike down his master.

[@SKN64Productions]

OH! You guys should play the STAR WARS games for the N64! One of em is racing related! 👀

[@LetheSoda]

Christopher Lee walked in already knowing how to swordfight.

[@perfectajo]

"She sent Luke to the one place he would never go back to." 🤯🤯THAT IS A BAR!!!!!! 🤯🤯

[@Rthe47]

I heard they cut a huge portion of the fight between Dooku and Anakin, originally was suppose to last longer, and Dooku was having a lot more trouble than he anticipated especially after he had just zapped him silly like a minute ago.

[@supremefankai5480]

An army of Space Kiwis, a formidable force indeed.

[@stingerbrg]

Fun fact about the clones, they were all CGI in both this movie and the next. They never made a physical clone trooper costume until Andor on Disney+.

[@jamesmoyner7499]

I'm going to defend the romance a bit. As Jedi are taught not to have attachments or show emotion so with Anakin being a teenager with raging hormones of course he is going to be awkward and not know how to act feeling in love for the first time.

[@Jacka1376]

It’s weird how Ani went from being a slave to being “freed”, only for his saviors to enslave him into their cult, then with the help of palpatine overthrows his new masters, and then gets enslaved by his new savior. He and the galaxy woulda been better off if he had stayed on tatooine and continued racing.

[@MarcMagma]

"These movies are fire, y'all are delusional" You don't know how big of a smile it gave me to hear someone say those words.

[@SDfan2002]

Can’t wait til he says that about the next trilogy.

[@antispiral1159]

Bro if he watches the third movie with Rey and saids it’s good I’m going guess he turned his brain off for that garbage movie

[@antispiral1159]

Also it’s not delusional people. People really only remember episode for the pod race and darth maul fight the rest is a snooze also jar jar being hated. Episode 2 well jango hires bounty hunter who sends a drone who sends worms so that was stupid and not the acting but the lines they were given is terrible. Finally episode 3 I will admit the plot is actually good unlike the other three and is a nice end although like spider men it becomes a giant meme to laugh at.

[@SDfan2002]

@@antispiral1159 I’m guessing you turned your brain off when you called it “the 3rd movie.”

[@yashjoseph3544]

@@SDfan2002 He specifically said it had Rey in it so of course he is talking about Episode 9.

[@adamt.borrowmanmr.mattobei9865]

56:54 Count dooku: If you only knew the power of the dark side, Qui-Gon Jinn never told you what happened to your father. Obi-wan: he told me enough! He told me you killed him. Dooku: No, I am your father. Obi-wan: no. No, that’s not true. That’s impossible! Dooku: Search your feelings, you know it to be true! Obi-wan: NOOOOO!!! Nooo!!

[@dothedo0f]

The sith were originally a race of alien who have darkside force powers naturally. Dark Jedi thousands of years ago found them, subjugated them and interbred. Back then there were thousands of sith. Eventually thousands of years later Darth Bane made the Rule only 2 sith 1 master one apprentice. The apprentice would eventually overtake the master and kill them to power creep the sith. Back in the day before Bane the sith always interfought causing them to never get anything done.

[@Konoctirepublicshorts]

Jango Fett was honestly probably the best part of this entire movie, I wish we could have seen more of him

[@emilylewis5373]

If they love r2d2 this much, can only imagine what their reaction to chopper would be.

[@benner1828]

if you are going to dive into the clone wars series. 1. follow what people put online on how to watch or things for the first 3 or 4 seasons will not make sense. they are out of order because Lucas keep coming up with ideas for episodes that were already aired. (and you cant tell the guy writing checks NO) 2. watch it in the eyes of Ahsoka. She was made for the a particular audiance in mind. in the beginning she is more "kid like" as the seasons went the viewers that she was made for got older, matured. so did the show and Ahsoka. Along with Lucas dumping truck loads of cash into the project to make it better.

[@venom890]

Common misconception, the Storm troopers are NOT clones, reason why they can't hit shit, when the clones on the other hand were perfect soldiers

[@technos_orphan_obliterator]

The answer to why there's always only 2 sith, is The Rule of Two. The rule of two was established by an ancient sith lord Darth Bane. The reason he created it was because he realized that the Sith's greed led to their destruction, Bane created the Rule of Two. The Sith thenceforth consisted of only two Sith Lords at any given time; the master who embodied the power of the dark side, and the apprentice who craved that power.

[@bishoproulette1286]

In this movie Anakin is age 19 years old and Padme is age 24 years old

[@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly]

The legal age for them to boing

[@kimrand1088]

I still have this movie on VHS and it has this part right before the movie starts where C-3P0 and R2-D2 will come on screen and give the audience a small recap of the story and it's really funny.

[@georgev3433]

The Rule of Two came to existence thanks to Darth Bane after the Sith Empire at the time got completely decimated by both the Sith and Jedi. Basically until then the Sith would form large organizations to take over the Galaxy, with a Main Sith Lord running it. Being Sith, the most common way to get a promotion was to kill your boss, and the best way to keep your job was to kill your overly prospective staff members. Obviously this does not lead to a long term functioning organization, and between Jedi attacks and infighting, the Sith got destroyed. So Bane looked at this and realized this basically happens *every single time* a Sith Empire forms and was like “ok something has got to change.” So he basically killed all his rivals that managed to survive the war and took on an apprentice. The idea being with just 2 Sith, you’re not going to have that constant infighting. Sure your apprentice is probably gonna come kill you, but with only two of you around that’s not going to be happening every Tuesday. Plus with only two people, that makes it stupidly easy for you to hide. And Darth Bane was right, that sentiment worked pretty successfully for thousands of years.

[@AgntFL]

The thing about a lot of Padme’s early interactions with Anakin is she’s actively trying to put distance between them because she’s into him. The line about him looking at her? Yeah it made her feel a certain way which in turn made her uncomfortable because she knows she shouldn’t have those feelings for him

[@mrwatermelo50]

Force is Force, every life form has it. Some are more in tune with it. Some have talent to wield it. Obi Wan said its a muscle you have to learn to use, like people who can wiggle their ears. Anyone can cook, the midichlorian count just say how strong the connection is, how powerful you are. Leia has as many midichlorian as Luke, Luke just has the training and better connection, cause Leia refused to see Vader as her father and redeemable Light and Dark is just a childish way of seeing it, like Qui Gon said before he was gone in the first movie: be aware of the living force, here and now A Sith can hide and mask his presents in the force, more like a smoke screen so others cant sense them. Some say the face we see on Palps is a mask, he got weekend in a fight and the wrinkly face is his real face he hides.

[@Senkoau]

In the beginning was the Jedai (I think, may have the order name wrong) and they split in two. One group became the Jedi while the other became the Sith. These are groups with history, traditions and rules. A dark jedi is a jedi who has fallen to the dark side but they are not necessarily a Sith. There have been numerous dark jedi and dark force users that weren't Sith.

[@Arkhamfrost]

Clone wars is a Must…it expands the lore of the prequels…finish 3 then watch them…trust me…you won’t be disappointed

[@Animaniac0451]

I recommend watching Clone Wars, but if you do watch it in the sequential order. A lot of the first few seasons in the broadcast order are out of order time wise due to the way they were produced. Story flows much better in the when they are resorted =)

[@KingsBard]

11:05 Space New Zealand actually. Also Idk if this is right since I'm not Ace, but Jango gives me Ace vibes, like why else would you find such a roundabout way to procreate?

[@CarbonMage]

"Why's that Space New Zealand guy here?" "Oy what the hell?"

[@Deadlyspark]

In reference to how they know/knew, they didnt. They only became aware the sith were still around because they revealed themselves. They didnt even beleive Qui gon when he said the sith were back the first time they fought. They only know the "rule of 2" that woth soth, there are only ever 2, so they know after maul, that at least one pther is out there

[@timedragon5492]

If you guys are going in release order, before watching Revenge of the Sith, there was a 2003 2D animated series by Genndy Tartakovsky that connects the two movies together. Star Wars: Clone Wars. The whole thing is about a movie in length altogether and can be watched in one big video. And I would say it's almost required watching for Star Wars fans as it's the series that introduces characters like Ventress and General Grievous.

[@jaxsonlambert9750]

That would be awesome if they watched that! Probably won’t because not a lot of people will request it sadly compared to The Clone Wars. It would be easier then watching The Clone Wars though

[@colinvandenberg3446]

That series ends directly before Episode 3 starts, and I agree that it would great if you guys watched it first.

[@scrappy3317]

Can’t wait tell they watch clone wars

[@Rthe47]

There is the dark side and the light. It's real easy to spot things in the light, but it's difficult to see things in the dark. It's hard for jedi to hide their presence, their thoughts, it's very easy for those with the dark side to hide their intentions from other force users. That's why sith have to be really observant of their masters/apprentices because it's hard to tell when they are about to backstab each other.