**STAR WARS ROGUE ONE** First Time Reaction

[@TritopolisD408]

The fun thing about that end is that it leads straight into A New Hope. That means Vader chased them down from Skariff and when he caught them, Leia was barefaced "what plans?" to his face. The balls on that princess!

[@maramackenzie-mann]

I mean, she IS his daughter. There wasn't anyone more audacious than Anakin Skywalker and it seems like Leia inherited most of his sass.

[@rishin7852]

​@@maramackenzie-mann Leia: What plans you are talking about? Vader who saw her ship flying away from him 5 minutes ago: "Listen here you little shi-"

[@silentassason]

It explains the explosion of anger he had in that moment that he rarely has throughout the rest of that trilogy

[@SpiralSine6]

“I am on a diplomatic mission to Onderaan” “The fuck you are I saw you ten minutes ago.”

[@liamisaac1152]

@@SpiralSine6its giving teenage daughter getting caught sneaking out of the house and lying through her teeth to dad 💀

[@TritopolisD408]

Rule of thumb: Never mess with a Skywalker in a hallway. Seriously, the Vader hallway scene was an EXPERIENCE in theaters. It genuinely felt like he was charging after you.

[@4odd9even]

Star Wars hallway scenes are always great. Vader, Luke, Maul. One day they'll get to the other two.

[@b3yourself91]

Seeing that in theater was mind blowing

[@dyldog]

One of the coolest theater experiences, me and my dad both got goosebumps, everyone in the audience cheered

[@bradleyscott6304]

I will never ever forget seeing it in theaters

[@CptRedexCC--]

Yeah, i can agree. I almost had suicidial thoughts cause I said it's better to kill myself than getting slaughtered by Little Angry Ani 😂

[@marcosgarcia25]

The struggle to figure out Bail Organa was insane 😂

[@JediMasterRevenantMADNESS]

Especially them thinking this movie was before the prequels despite the stormtroopers being there lol.

[@ncard00]

When more clone wars

[@1.-ulysses334]

Actually Rougue one is universally loved, the only ones that were controversial and divisive was everything after it.

[@AlderPeak]

I wouldn't say it's "universally loved". It's certainly loved more than most Star Wars movies released over the last 30 years, but there are still many detractors with valid criticisms of the movie.

[@1.-ulysses334]

@@AlderPeak I mean, you can say that about any of the Star Wars movies, even for episodes 4-6 you will find people complaining about something and not being entirely wrong. But the vast majority of people do love them, hence why they are considered universally loved.

[@bjp4869]

@@AlderPeakYou can say that about literally any movie ever

[@AlderPeak]

​@@bjp4869 That's exactly my point. 'Universally loved' should be reserved for the truly exceptional, 'less than 1%' of films that achieve classic status across generations. While Rogue One is generally highly regarded, I don't see how anyone could suggest that it reaches that level of universal acclaim. It's a decent movie with an okay plot, okay acting and great cinematography, then jammed full of Star Wars fan service. Fans of the franchise like it for that, but if it didn’t have all those Star Wars-specific callbacks, it would just be another mediocre heist movie.

[@Bakemer94]

​@@AlderPeakYou are arguing semantics, you knew what the guy meant, you just wanted to argue and be right. Well congrats, you are right. Also boring, cringe and tedious.

[@Dakdas]

This hilariously recontextualizes the opening of ANH. Leia: "I don't know what you're talking about. We are on a diplomatic mission to Alderan!" Vader: "I LITERALLY saw your car peel out of the parking lot!" The brass balls on Leia to try and bluff her way out. It's now amazing.

[@Torente32]

More like retardation of current time writing versus classic skillful writing of the past Nothing to do with brass balls.

[@baneh1329]

Grounded! Grounded forever!

[@rishin7852]

@@baneh1329 Leia: WHAT DO YOU MEAN I'M GROUNDED?! I'M A PRINCESS! Vader:....Go to your room, no more playing Rebels with your friends. That include your hairy friend and your boyfriend.

[@zedxx]

If you guys haven't seen Andor, then you have to see it. It's THE best Star Wars ever. It's basically Star Wars for adults with exceptionally good writing. Andor was nominated for 8 Emmys including Best Drama Series alongside Succession and The Crown. Yeah.

[@redcardinalist]

I second Andor.

[@T97FlawlessX]

Nah, Mandalorian is king of the tv shows

[@SaishoVibes]

​@@T97FlawlessX Depends on what you like. If you want more fast paced fun, do Mando or Kenobi. If you want a dark, gritty, grounded show showing civilians more than the Jedi or sith, go with Andor. Skeleton Crew will probably be a more for-kids show as well. No show is king necessarily, but I am glad you enjoy Mando. It is a fun show after all!

[@ItsAVolcano]

Tarkin stealing credit for the Death Star at the last second also explains a lot of things in Episode IV. In particular Tarkin refusing to launch TIE' fighters and completely failing to understand the Death Star wasn't built for defending against starfighters, or that the exhaust port was a critical weak point.

[@theradicalginger3060]

What a dumb dumb tis a shame he was well off enough to somehow be even closer with palps than Vader who had to listen to him or else hear it from his master

[@rishin7852]

@@theradicalginger3060 Well there is the reason why Vader dislike him in the Clone Wars and also Vader surrounded by idiots (except Piett).

[@theradicalginger3060]

@@rishin7852 I like the comic where Vader tasks tarkin with hunting him down and ol tarks follows Vader for like weeks to month or something sends others to test variable flaws and debatable weakness for Vader and then finally comes up with the coup de grace of leading Vader to a natural lightning spot where he's splashed with a nice dose of thunder only to use the force on tarkin and be like nice try even the elements have nothing on the dark side of the force

[@complex2live]

​@@rishin7852Respect to Piett

[@rishin7852]

@@complex2live "The Captain shouldn't left off his ship, he sunk with the ship"

[@hagank1111]

The Death Star used Kyber Crystals in the original trilogy as well. It wasn’t a story change instead Disney did their homework for once it’s why I love the Director of Rogue One he was a old school Star Wars fan.

[@rishin7852]

Gareth Edwards knew what he and the fans wanted, he knew that Star Wars fans respected the source materials and he clearly understood that why. Gareth should direct another Star Wars films, he did directed other movies and Godzilla 2014 is one of them, also it was great movie.

[@hqer]

erm, actually the Kyber Crystals weren't a thing before the Clone Wars 2008. There were other lightsaber crystal like the Krayt Dragon Pearl or the Dantaari one, so no, it was not in the Original Trilogy

[@hagank1111]

@@hqer Star Wars Galaxies would like your location.

[@hqer]

@@hagank1111 yeah, unfortunately I did not play Star Wars Galaxies, I know this from the Star Wars FFG Roleplaying Game

[@hagank1111]

@@hqer This is also from older books and games but ya Kyber Crystals have existed for a LONG time.

[@UchihaOokami2596]

Thankfully Rogue One is universally loved by the fandom on either side of the Disney hate and the Prequel issues. My dad loves to play hardass with the movies (only sees OT as Canon) but he does accept Rogue One as part of that. Still need to have the watch party that plays Rogue One and goes right into Episode 4. Would recommend Andor series too but youll get there when you do, The Clone Wars is huge and love how much you guys are enjoying it. May the Force be with Us.

[@literatemax]

Apparently Andor Season 2 is going to end right before Rogue One picks it up in the timeline

[@hagank1111]

Stormtroopers are not kidnapped kids in the original conflict. With the original Galactic Empire. They are all conscripts or volunteers, majority volunteers. People truly believed in the, “Peace” the Empire provided after the devastation of the Clone Wars. They hated that the Rebellion was bringing war back to the galaxy so they joined willingly. It’s very interesting reading stories about Imperials who realized they were wrong and joined the Rebellion, as well as stories about some of the Empires most loyal.

[@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly]

I think they are confusing with the first order. They are the ones that kinnaped children to make them into soldiers while the rest were loyalist of the empire. It is explained in the dlc of star wars battlefront 2 2016

[@IggyStardust1967]

Fellas, as much shade as Disney gets for their Star Wars projects, this movie is THE standout that is pretty universally loved. When we saw it in theaters, we immediately hauled ass home to watch A New Hope. Since this movie released on home video, I have not watched one without the other. I've seen Rogue One well over 100 times already, and it is in my "top 3" Star Wars movies.

[@maroda8094]

and still a lot of Star Wars hardcore fans hated on this movie at first, because the lack of "character" development and the weaker first half of the movie. For me.. this is one of the best star wars movie ever

[@JonduGaming]

They should have had A New Hope playing in theaters right after this, imagine the bank they could have pulled in.

[@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly]

​@@JonduGamingmother : " alright the credits are rolling can we go now" Father and son: "But episode 4 will start right now we gotta see it" Mother: " no lets go" Father and son: " I find your lack of faith disturbing."

[@llenn1592]

just my 2cents here but i think i would prefer you telling them stuff like "oh its between 3 and 4" or "thats Bail Organa"

[@t.j._fury]

Agreed, it's not like either of those things are spoilers.

[@JTnienbucks]

Truuue

[@jimjohnson4579]

I concur

[@JaymzShikari]

Between 3 and 4 would be quickly apparent and is fun to learn along the way, but the Bail Organa thing was essential to enjoying one of the subplots of the movie.

[@Riggs_The_Roadie]

To be fair, I don't think even he knew when it took place.

[@brianalambert1192]

"People may have their issues with these movies" Rogue One seems to be the sole thing that came out of Disney (along with Andor as the spinoff), that most of the fandom can get behind. Even the people who don't like it, don't hate it the same way as the other projects I don't know that people were mad about the kyber crystals being what powers the Death Star. I have a distinct memory of a documentary with Lucas where he talked about that concept years before Disney ever bought Star Wars, that the Death Star lasers were powered by the same thing as a lightsaber but on a larger scale. And the reason I remember the year, is that I remember watching it in my childhood home which I moved out of in 2005 and haven't been back since. So I don't know if it was a retcon per se

[@notasadist1914]

They just probably assumed since it Disney star wars anything that is said they think the fans might've hated for "changing lore" when (it's funny) it's one of the few good Disney star wars projects loved by fans 😂

[@martinmorles1]

One of my favorites , love how they realistic they portray the rebellion, not shining away that they also have done shady , brutal things really shows how the conflict has taken a toll on both sides

[@supremefankai5480]

For the record, it has been established for a few decades that the Death Star's super laser was powered by Kayber Crystals. This was just the first time it was mentioned in a major project.

[@domingocurbelomorales8635]

In the rebel attack to Scarif, the Red Five pilot died. The rebellion chose later a new red five pilot... Luke Skywalker as we witnesses in episode IV and the following. For me, this is one of the best Star Wars films ever. The whole film is incredible: complex characters, narration... and the last fifteen minutes a brutal rollercoaster. Darth Vader here show us how terrific, cruel and evil he could be.

[@JackTheMech]

And gold leaders comeback. Can't forget gold leader being here even after we lost the actor (iirc)

[@mimic1984]

Nerd fact: The "Camo" Imperial Troopers are called Shore Troopers and the ones wearing all black with green eyes are Death Troopers (Formal name being AWR Troppers, which stands for "Advanced Weapons Research", very elite class Trooper that guard high profile Imperials.) 💜

[@dariodramac]

Another fun fact:the death troopers are genetically modified and mostly only speak with the 'muffled'(i suppose thats what it is similar to) comms.

[@eawhite782]

Death Troopers are part of Imperial Intelligence and do covert work for them. They can be assigned to protect high ranking Imperials, especially ones in charge of top secret projects, such as Director Krennic. Their main task was to be special assignment commandos.

[@hagank1111]

Did y’all notice the Black Stormtroopers (Death Troopers) noticed that the force was effecting the blind man. So one stops trying to aim for him and aims for the explosives next to him? The Director of this movie LOVED Star Wars and did so much homework.

[@xDarthSTYXx]

LOL no...using the Force would have shown Chirrut the explosives as well. The Death Troopers weren't responding to use of the Force. Huuuuge reach.

[@theirishviking9278]

@@xDarthSTYXx just cause you have foresight doesn't mean you have the speed to react to it

[@xDarthSTYXx]

@theirishviking9278 Go fuck yourself, Chirrut demonstrated his reaction speed throughout the entire movie. Either way, the Death Troopers weren't reacting to seeing the Force be used.

[@alexworoniecki7231]

@@theirishviking9278 Chirrut isn't even force sensitive, he just has a more heighten awareness from being blind. He can't use the force or be trained to use it, but the force itself can act around others. Which is more likely what happened when he went for the panel.

[@theirishviking9278]

@@alexworoniecki7231 oh i know Chirrut wasn't connected enough to the force to be a force sensitive (every living thing is technically connected to the force just a matter of to what degree and how much the individual leans into it) was more pointing out the logic fallacy in their argument that a force user would have been shown the force user the explosion and had time to escape, when we have multiple scenes where a force user is too slow to react to things

[@josejosefino7361]

Rogue Ends literally days or even hours before the OG film. And I absolutely love Leia playing dumb about the plans to Vaders face. That woman had balls of steel.

[@studior2962]

Now you guys can watch Andor, the best piece of Star Wars media in years. Btw K2SO supremacy

[@loganwendigo937]

Ah yes the Best Disney Star Wars Film!

[@Zachstorm_Gamer]

Agreed!

[@SDfan2002]

This isn’t The Last Jedi.

[@loganwendigo937]

TLJ is second best but far far behind rogue one. TLJ is half of a great film imo

[@SantaClaus-kk8zr]

@@SDfan2002 Weird bait

[@SDfan2002]

@@SantaClaus-kk8zr Not bait.

[@theradicalginger3060]

BAIL ORGANA! that whole moment was epicly hilarious its not Lando! 😂

[@Zagzeroth]

One for the lore nerds in the back: TIE-Fighters don’t have shields, at all… they raw dog space battles.

[@alexworoniecki7231]

Look do you see how many we have to make, we dont have the funding for shields. You all get to fly ww2 Japanese style scrap ships. That where made from wood.

[@Rycel2001]

"The Imperial Navy Starfighter Corps.: 'No Shields, No Life-Support, No Hyperdrive, All Guts'"

[@RicardoLuciano-q5z]

1:05:26 Actually, there's no line like that in A New Hope. You're thinking of a line in Return of the Jedi, where it is stated that "Many Bothans died to bring us this information."

[@technos_orphan_obliterator]

Fun Fact: 1:03:56 The door wasn't stuck. Vader was holding it. That's why it slides back the second he's done killing everyone in the room.

[@MarcusFrederiksen]

I mean... Why wouldn't he have closed it all the way then?

[@technos_orphan_obliterator]

@MarcusFrederiksen Full elaboration: The door was opening, and Vader caught it after it opened just slightly. After he killed everyone, he let it go, and the door slid back, something it was trying to do but couldn't cause Vader was stopping it. And it was slightly open because they needed a way to get the plans through so A New Hope could happen. Don't think too much. Its plot convenience.

[@complex2live]

​@technos_orphan_obliterator on top of that he was probably just having fun going on a massacre again since we see him using different death strategies, so he probably wasn't heavily focusing on the door

[@rishin7852]

@@technos_orphan_obliterator And don't forget, Vader hates the Death Star projects for wasting the resources.

[@jdbeauchamp2919]

@@MarcusFrederiksen I completely agree. 😂

[@mimic1984]

Never under any circumstances...EVER...mess with a Skywalker in a hallway. ❤️ 🖤 💜

[@mimic1984]

"I am one with the Force, and the Force is with me..." 💜

[@chrisgrider1393]

Don't watch Solo though seriously there's a Clone Wars spoiler at the end

[@theradicalginger3060]

Oh now that scene makes sense 😮

[@theirishviking9278]

not really both scenes were designed as if you didn't know they were still around

[@madman7753]

​@@theirishviking9278 True but given that the clone wars one was (in my opinion) much more exciting, seeing the Solo one would definitely take some of that away

[@TMD2357]

Their is a 19 year gap between Revenge of the Sith and New hope for those who don't know that.

[@theradicalginger3060]

Makes sense I always wondered how much time passed with the showing of different technologies within the world and how advanced or not advanced it is depending on if the empire is in control hoarding resources or a war or what have ya

[@rishin7852]

@@theradicalginger3060 And also it gives the answer why Vader was pissed off at the beginning of A New Hope.

[@theradicalginger3060]

@@rishin7852 I would be too I'd be like you little shit I followed you personally what plans my ass I know you have them! XD

[@jolunrohthocoudis526]

Fun fact about the Darth Vader scene. It was filmed after the movie was ‘completed’. It was kind of a last minute thought they had while they started editing and production has generally wrapped already. Most of those soldiers in that scene are actually tech guys (like mixing, editing, splicing) and it was filmed on a studio lot. I’m not saying the movie would be bad without it. But it was absolutely essential to the movie overall imo (in terms of feel/ impact) and I couldn’t imagine the movie without it

[@brudon55]

Pretty sure the death star using kyber crystals was established in lore somewhere before this movie came out

[@Mister_Matthew]

I have never heard anyone complain about Rogue One, it instantly mounted itself into legendary status. Amazing actors and visuals and the first good step away from the original story 29:10 this whole sequence is one of the best cg things I have ever seen

[@JTnienbucks]

The deathstar using kyber krystals was always a thing. That wasnt retconned

[@Nihil-2005]

Fun fact, that black sand and green hilltop landscape at the beginning is legit, they filmed it up in Iceland. It's all that volcanic material that gets eroded down to sand and gravel, it's a very cool place to go see in person!

[@JonJoLen]

The battle of Scarif might be my favorite battle in the whole franchise, and that’s a HARD call to make. I love the battle over corusuant, the battle at the Death Star II, and countless battles in the clone wars, but this one is just so SO good. The space battle is so well done and the battle on the ground is just *chefs kiss*

[@dariodramac]

I prefer the battle for the star forge,cus the star forge itself is already so cool

[@cosesu8929]

It's funny that when they were trying to figure out that the character was Bail Organa, that the female character right next to him was also in a previous episode/s and they didn't realize

[@blindnerd4871]

This is my favorite Star Wars project under Disney. It is up there with Mandalorian Seasons 1 and 2, Andor, and Clone Wars Season 7. These are the best projects Star Wars has produced under Disney in my opinion.

[@Tm-dn9ob]

19:27 no that was a thing already... even before this rebels (tv show... this wasn't relevant to the plot) was talking about massive kyber shipments

[@UncleMilo]

Here is some stuff that I hope is helpful! Saw Gerrera was introduced as a younger man in The Clone Wars. He shows up in Star Wars Rebels, The Bad Batch and Andor as well. Cassian Andor is the character that the TV show "Andor" is based on and Andor is simply outstanding television. Here is the chronological order for you (Movies and TV series): The Acolyte Tales of the Jedi (Though some episodes are set throughout and just after the Prequel films) Phantom Menace Attack of the Clones The Clone Wars animated series (the final season does cross over Revenge of the Sith) Revenge of the Sith The Bad Batch (which picks up right where The Clone Wars series leaves off) Solo Tales of the Empire (This has events at many points over the timeline) Obi-Wan Kenobi Rebels Andor (Rebels and Andor are very close in the timeline) Rogue One A New Hope Empire Strikes Back Return of the Jedi The Mandalorian The Book of Boba Fett (Takes place after Season 2 of The Mandalorian) Ahsoka Resistance (Happens before and after The Force Awakens) The Force Awakens The Last Jedi Rise of Skywalker I hope I didn't forget anything! As you can tell, I am a massive nerd. :)

[@stingerbrg]

28:56 He was also hooked up to a bunch of machinery that made it impossible for him to leave with them even if he had the will to try.

[@lukescrew1981]

Please you need to react to Andor

[@Shae29]

YES PLEASE!!! Esp with season 2 coming out next year❤

[@ricardofung6381]

This movie hits so hard, specially the ending scenes. Made me say “I want MORE” in my mind

[@kaicreech7336]

I think there's a sequel, about destroying the Death Star. Not sure tho

[@ricardofung6381]

@ lol I just realized I didn’t specify “more what?” I meant that I wanted more of Vader in his prime/pre-EP4, either a movie or TV serie. Only thing I would ask is to have someone who knows how to build a good script/story and work along Hayden on it (since he also really knows Anakin/Vader according to the behind the scenes while producing Ahsoka)

[@totallytashi]

Leia at the end of this was played by Carrie Fisher's (Leia's actress) daughter then a little CGI on top.

[@davxlau]

So, this movie isn't the one fans have a problem with, in fact it's generally considered one of the best of all of them. Talking top 3 status. It's the Sequel Trilogy that people have beef with.

[@luke4685]

The Hallway Scene is a Great Contrast to Because Vader is Vader and Anakin is Anakin. Darth Vader took his time to kill the Rebels and is thrilled with ecstasy with every kill he makes and since they are afraid of him, when he realizes that he has been wasting time it is too late and the Rebels escape. Anakin would have entered there and recovered the Plans... He would not have wasted Time in Playing Almighty or intimidating his Enemies... Anakin would accomplish the Mission.

[@Hlynur211]

The black beach at the start is a real place in Iceland :D

[@Dat_Ruski]

Guys you've gotta finish clone wars, the other animated shows all revolve around it!

[@begunwings89634]

1:04:49 imagine an alien isolation like game but Star Wars with this idea in mind. Absolutely terrifying it would be

[@ZackMuffinMan]

Rogue One is SO good! The sequels and most of the newer shows are where the problem is lol

[@AkimboJV]

The Geonosians designed the Death Star. Dooku took the plans in Episode 2

[@Rycel2001]

That's one of the things that always annoyed me about Lucas and the prequels: he's so petty he couldn't let the more interesting EU explanation of a secret Imperial Manhattan Project-style thinktank stand because he never thought of it himself, so he had the deadliest weapon of all time be the invention of a one-off antagonist group of space bugs. It makes no sense why or how the Genosians would even conceive of the Death Star, let alone how they would even go about building it without the resources of the galaxy-spanning infrastructure of the Republic.

[@saveritas731]

The vast majority of people like or love Rogue One, even among the Sequel haters and die hard anti-Disney crowd. The only people who I see hating on Rogue One are nitpicker extremists, people speaking in bad faith, or the rare person whose opinion is very subjective.

[@tia7520]

You wanna see sand like that? New Zealand has a few black sand beaches including in Raglan (I've been there before, it's hot on your feet) There's a whole Wikipedia page listing places that have black sand beaches.

[@MagicalBread]

Finishing the Clone Wars is a MUST if you want to watch Solo, Rebels and even the Disney+ shows like Mando.

[@campbell91988]

There is indeed a show called Andor and not only is it an incredible Star Wars show, it's one of the best shows period in recent years. Legit incredibly good.

[@DigitalPand3mic]

This was the ONLY disney star wars I truly enjoyed.

[@user-jv7dm6qm9n]

The movie was made for fans with fan approving of it. It’s funny if Disney actually looked at lore with good story telling people would truly love Star Wars again.

[@xXerickcg92xX]

No one complains about Rogue One. It is probably top 3 in most fans lists. a lot of funs just dont like sequel series

[@jasonhoagland8444]

There is indeed a Star Wars series called Andor. Its a prequel to this movie. And its excellent!

[@dannybob42]

A Star Wars of a tragic flavour, we knew they all died getting the plans but to see it, you still hope someone will survive. It was almost drafted for Cassian and Jyn to survive but they decided against it - though I still wish they gave Chirrut a lightsaber... Perhaps the reason Donnie Yen has played two blind martial artists is because of the popularity of Zatoichi, the blind swordsman. Zatoichi was the inspiration for Fujitora in One Piece too Highly recommend watching Andor, it is excellent and focuses more on the people element of the rebellion and oppression of the Empire.

[@plaidcowsyndrome]

There’s a comic where a Sith made a sniper rifle that you can insert a light saber into, shooting the blade and using up the saber in a few shots, it was pretty baller

[@aa_battery7]

That was Jocasta Nu, not a sith, if a remember correctly

[@plaidcowsyndrome]

@ I thought it was Sith made, but the librarian stole it from the archives… but I didn’t read it

[@aa_battery7]

@@plaidcowsyndrome might be the case. I interpreted your og comment though as to mean user was sith. My bad

[@abthedragon4921]

One thing I will say is amazing about this movie is how much the rebellion has to sacrifice to get those plans. Like, how many Star Wars stories (or just stories in general) have it so almost all the main characters die just for a chance at victory. And that's the other thing, none of the members of Rogue One knew for certain that these plans would allow them to defeat the Empire, but they took that risk anyway and that sacrifice helped the heroes in the OG trilogy win!

[@cainyourkids]

I think another reason why Saw also stayed (other than probably being too physically incapable to escape) was that he recognized how far he had fallen. The Alliance at this point in time were losing so bad, they were desperate and ended up doing underhanded things - they weren't noble or idealistic, they did a lot of shady shit to keep themselves from being eliminated by the Empire. What Cassian did to his informant at the start - that wasn't something someone like Leia or Luke would ever tolerate. Saw himself had become a terrorist even to the Rebels, a rogue extremist who doesn't even hesitate to torture POWs like Bodhi - seeing Jyn and Galen's message probably made him realize that there was a better way, and that his ways were no longer the right method of fighting evil.

[@jonasquinn7977]

I get that being told to wait to finish Clone Wars is annoying but it and Rebels are absolutely vital for having context later on. On the bright side, now you can watch Andor!

[@samueljacques9381]

Oh hell yes excited for this one. Love to see Diego Luna on screen. Really excited for more star wars, eager to see if y'all will get to the "this isn't 'good for star wars' it's just fucking good' Andor show

[@rickynagy6141]

Remember at this point in the timeline Vader's position has not been fully established in the empire which is why the director keeps pushing him, most people in the empire don't know what Vader really is yet

[@superblahman]

Rogue One was well received, it was the Rey movies, The Force Awakens etc, that was hated.

[@skeletononyx]

This is one of two good things Disney added to StarWars.

[@SDfan2002]

@@skeletononyx They’ve added many great things ever since REBELS.

[@domingocurbelomorales8635]

When Mon Mothma asks Bail Organa about the hidden jedi, is referring to Obi Wan Kenobi. And when he said "I would trust her with my life" he is talking about Princess Leia, his adoptive daughter. He arranged all to bring the plans to Obi Wan through Leia.

[@Jgutterud]

Now that you've seen this, you can watch andor whenever. Especially since season 2 was confirmed

[@edgarcia4794]

You meet Saw Gurera in the clone Wars cgi series he and his sister were rebels that far back. He was young ripped fast and strong but now he was old in a life support suit. Saw was done.

[@danielsieber4809]

You know, I kinda wish the guy in purple chimed in a bit more.

[@ryanscanlon2151]

Rogue one I'd argue is the best of the Disney made movies, it started a bit slow but man when the third act hits it hits like a Star destroyer Wombo Combo. That said the way you were talking about the logistics of the death star I think you guys would love Generation tech on KZbin and the Andor show especially.

[@OG.2435]

Y'all need to rewatch it after you finish Clone Wars and Rebels and look for some easter eggs plus you'll have a better understanding of some characters in this and what the Rebel Alliance has been through up to this point.

[@diamondq7s124]

I'm just screaming that they get in character wrong like super wrong big time and other still don't know the time line. There might be a time line poster y'all can get. The Hammerhead is a Old Republic ship that been used for thousands of years, still got the power!

[@terryconnelly484]

By the way , there's no sound in space. It's a vacuum

[@Oakjet1998]

RIP JAMES EARL JONES!!!!!!!!!

[@R3_dacted0]

The general consensus is that Rogue One is peak Disney Star Wars. But like, actually good. Up there with The Mandolorian and Andor. Solo also, in and of itself, is actually a pretty good movie. It's just an unnecessary movie that was riding off the wave of the Episode 8 controversy. The stuff that is hated on is Episode 8 and 9, Boba Fett, Obi-Wan, and The Acolyte. There was also that one animated show Star Wars Resistance, but I've never seen it so I can't really give an opinion. Episode 7 was an overall decent movie. It's 8 and 9 that bring it down retroactively. The Ahsoka show is also not terrible, as far as ratings go. Solo, like I said, was a good movie, but it didn't do well in the box office because of the negative reception of Episode 8.

[@666FallenShadow]

solo kinda had everything going against it, it came out after 8 which completely divided the fanbase but also most people just weren't interested in a solo origin movie or a solo movie without harrison ford. it also doesn't help that it's a very safe and paint by numbers movie. it's not bad, it's just kinda mediocre

[@rishin7852]

@@666FallenShadow Also Solo came out one month AFTER Avengers: Infinity War which is why it's overshadowed by it (I did watch Solo and it was alright, not bad though even it wasn't great as Rogue One).

[@666FallenShadow]

@rishin7852 I watched solo with my family during the winter holidays and i thought it was OK just very safe and kinda made by committee

[@Neocrossfire]

I like how they’re going on about the “follow orders” argument saying “just don’t do it” acting like to a lot of people that’s an option when they and their families can be killed or worse. Not everyone is Superman ☠️

[@kaicreech7336]

Actually, several officers delayed firing the death Star on purpose and it's one of the reasons that Luke had time to destroy it

[@Neocrossfire]

@ And they’re probably dead. Also just saying for the argument in general but I get ya

[@zacharyjamesdixon]

Right. Of course we’d all like to think we’d be the one to not follow the order, but imagine someone’s going to continuously rape your captive daughter and wife if you don’t, but if you comply you and your family are free and get to go home. Obviously they could just do it anyway, but what’s the alternative when you don’t have super strength or super intelligence to get out of it. It’s easy to say you’d be the superhero that just says no while you’re sittin’ cozy on your couch.

[@liamisaac1152]

As sad as the ending was you have to laugh even more at Leia’s audacity to lie straight to Vader’s face in a New Hope. Mfer just chased her straight from the scene of where it happened and she’s still like “Death Star plans? on MY ship ? 🤔” 😂😂

[@KotaTheGreatest]

39:42 one of my favorite Vader lines. Coldest dad joke ever

[@SpiderWalker3427]

For me the best movie right after Revenge and Empire. Great actors, camera, visuals, soundtrack and the story is kinda frightening. Living in war like that. Making sacrifices to get what we are after - freedom... For me its the most Star WARS movie of all of them. Plus guys you need to watch Andor series directed by the same director. Stunning show.

[@zach99999]

"Everything that is not space is a piece of shit." That's because Star Wars is a heavy mix of sci fi in a fantasy world.

[@akiva2112]

That Hammerhead Corvette just Hit the Big Red Button in the cockpit

[@erikbyrge2024]

1:04:11 Darth Vader Beast Mode Activated!

[@kuronaialtani]

Never gets old, seeing people go in to watch 3.5 and come out having watched 3.99

[@domingocurbelomorales8635]

Darth Vader´s dark tower is in Mustafar. The same planet where Obi Wan defeated him leaving limbless and burned. Those angry memories helped him to become stronger.

[@theradicalginger3060]

Also! That's Donnie Yen he's been in multiple martial arts/Kung Fu type movies and roles idk if Donnie is actually blind or not he seems like he can see in all the other roles I've seen him in but IF he is thats awesome he made it a mark for his career

[@c1ph3rpunk]

Whole movie, everyone fighting, rebels dying, finally get the data tape, get up to the top, load it in and … Windows needs to reboot for updates. OG ‘77 fan from childhood, this is the best modern Star Wars made. In some ways it might actually be my favorite, SO well done.

[@j-train13]

Saw giving up is exactly what it was, him choosing to stay behind and die on Jeddha is a perfect parallel to Vader choosing to stay behind on the Death Star. Once they learned that those they care about were safe, that was all they needed, their mission was complete, why carry on living with the suffering they bear.

[@DaVinciwithaphaser]

As I get older I kinda like the crazy starwars stuff they made as I was in HS and college. It allows us to look back and categorise the hits from the shitters

[@Longshanks1690]

Ok, not having Star Wars chronology down so you don’t know when this movie takes place, I can forgive. But thinking Bail Organa is Lando is an actual war crime, like c’mon. 😭

[@SubterrelProspector]

I didnt even get that far. Wow. Are they high on weed or cocaine?

[@thetexanjedi95]

Besides the Vader hallway scene, my favorite scene in the whole movie is when the hammerhead corvette rams the disabled star destroyer. So epic. Also, I may be over reading into this, but I think to me that’s a pretty good picture of the Rebel Alliance. Outgunned, outnumbered, and back against the wall but in a way that desperation brings out the best in you through ingenuity, improvisation and grit.

[@wMTF2]

1:04:10 Now you know what that hallway fight in Season 3 of Amphibia was a reference to.

[@thatautistrob]

21:57 When I was in Basic, our drill sergeant (the Platoon Dad, as it were) taught us on the very first day of schoolhouse instruction that “one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.” That was a lesson that has stuck with me like a Covenant plasma grenade ever since. Moreover, this film in general (and this scene in specific) does such an excellent job of driving this home in a way that no other Star Wars media - except perhaps Rebels - has done. Also, the US Government has answered the Death Star Question.

[@mattsanders2207]

Christ! Lando!? You thought Bail Organa was Lando?! You have to stop smoking before you think Pizza the Hut is in this franchise.

[@hagank1111]

I would start with the old books if you wanna see what most people grew up with. They are not Disney Canon anymore but they are their own respected timeline.

[@theradicalginger3060]

A better timeline one might say I'm not a huge Disney star wars hater but they could do more with implementing all the interesting and neat stuff the books(legends) has

[@hagank1111]

@@theradicalginger3060The Expanded Universe was a lot of fun and I hate that Disney perpetuated a lie that it’s not a congruent story. It dose have a beginning and an end.

[@theradicalginger3060]

@@hagank1111 they are just salty cause they own the IP and only want what was already done by George and now by extension them to only count well in that regard they can shove it until they start showing it they can fancy it up and make it look how they want it to look but until they bring in stuff like krayt dragons and shit I'll just mildly enjoy whatever they dish out I just wanna see star wars good or bad kinda like pizza XD

[@IMysticCobaltI]

⁠@@theradicalginger3060Krayt Dragons are already in Disney Star Wars

[@theradicalginger3060]

@@IMysticCobaltI oh they show up in clone wars or rebels or something I know rebels has the Bendu that thing is sick! But my point still stands there is a TON of stuff Disney still has yet to introduce or bring in

[@brucechmiel7964]

Nobody was upset that the light saber crystals were being used to create the death star super laser. It’s a Concept that’s been around when you guys were in highschool. One story written in the late 90s had the death star super laser was based on revolutionary mining technology that was converted into a weapon by the Empire. That idea was quickly scrapped when work began of TFU in 2007, TCW 2008. Hell it goes back to 2005 with the release of battlefront two. The Kyber crystals being used for the death star are the size of boulders. And there’s hundreds of them.

[@brianalambert1192]

"If you don't like this movie, I don't think you're a Star Wars fan" If the rest of Disney Star Wars had been handled with the same care and love for what came before that Rogue One clearly had, I think the fandom would not be as divisive as it is today This was the beacon of hope that I felt with the transition. I especially feel like in those early days with the one off projects, there was a respect for the franchise that translated to a lot of time and effort being put into it. I think the sequel trilogy was doomed from the start since they didn't have a plan for it and passed it off from creator to creator with no coordination between them. That's just a bad plan for the project that you need to get right if you're going to win over fans now that you've bought the franchise. Knowing that, I did not get the same angry reaction everyone else did, though now looking back on it I'm angry

[@JTKenyon654]

13:25 "You think that’s Lando? LANDO'S BLACK, BROTHER!" KILLED me 🤣🤣🤣

[@darkspider4435]

36:00-38:00 Not sure if this is the right time stamp, but I always feel like that's a pretty hard topic to get a clear answer on. I mean yeah you guys ARE right from a moral standpoint on the idea if your orders are atrocious you shouldn't follow them but then that comes with its own set of issues: 1) They may send someone else to do it instead, and possibly in an even WORSE way than you 2) There are times where (and no, I am not defending the idea of orders like "kill everyone" as something good) the orders you receive no matter how difficult are ones you have to carry out. A couple of stories that come to mind are American Snipers who on occasion are given orders to make pre-emptive decisions on whether or not a target is a threat...with these potential threats sometimes being elderly or children. At first glance it's a no brainer, till you realize if you choose wrong there's a real chance you and friends aren't going home alive. Overall, you guys definitely aren't wrong, but unfortunately it's never as clear cut as "if you follow morally wrong orders you're a monster". Obviously there are exceptions on both sides the argument, but you get my point. As much as that sucks...

[@theradicalginger3060]

This is some heavy stuff Doc