First2Wurst 2022 Week 4 - Head to Head - H3VR Take & Hold Tournament

Thanks to Dougar for being a challenging opponent!
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[@doggoovertheintercom7919]

hey can you explain the concept of first2wurst? im new to this so i wanted to know what the hell is going on

[@jeditobiwan]

Sure! First2Wurst is the community-held tournament for the Take & Hold game mode in H3VR. This is the third year for it, and it has changed slightly each year, but it boils down to a double-elimination tournament for whoever gets the highest score in each bracket/phase. Scoring is based on the "base" score (what you earn in your Take & Hold run) multiplied by your difficulty options (a mix of standard or one-hit health + infinite or limited ammo) to get your final score. I *think* that Standard health + limited ammo is the lowest multiplier, but I do know that One-hit + Spawnlocked (infinite ammo) is the highest multiplier. This is due to the amount of enemies you have to face (limited ammo has much lower enemy counts and ends up being easier) You score in Take & Hold by completing the node waves a quickly as possible, getting kills during the hold phases, plus some odds and ends like spending your tokens. All of this mixes in with tons of different playstyles and strategies to see who is the on-the-spot best at Take & Hold!

[@doggoovertheintercom7919]

@@jeditobiwan k thanks

[@craig2196]

@@jeditobiwan how is limited ammo a lower multiplier than infinite?

[@AlexKeyes299]

@@craig2196 lower enemies

[@jeditobiwan]

@@craig2196 the amount of enemies is much lower. Some characters it is harder (calico) but with the high mag capacity of Ori and the mag upgrade stations, it really is trivial

[@cornslop6513]

classic hallways: a small, enclosed map. prepare for CQB encounters. jedi: "deploying grapple"

[@Taolan8472]

I think this is the lightest I've seen your pockets ending a T&H run. Very few tokens left. Only two guns. And Weiners? Powerup Weiners? What a twist!

[@jeditobiwan]

its like i don’t even know who I am anymore!

[@maddog3412]

Those 1000+ hours are really showing off, great work as always!

[@wolfsmaul-ger8318]

i cant believe you got a couple of weiners instead of an 12 point LMG for your last hold

[@jeditobiwan]

i know i know...playing to win has me doing some of the not-fun things

[@seoulman076]

I bet Anton could sense that arm swinger jump. Wonderful!

[@alexanderlaursen947]

Man i'm so happy that you upload the first2wurst Head to Head Week VS videos on your main channel. It's really cool cause i don't think everyone is aware of your 2nd channel Jedit. i recommend everyone too watch it live if they can on his twitch. I loved this Weeks's run, you did great jedi! Gg. Can't wait too see another Cobray on week 5!

[@William_Asston]

Wow getting the powerup weenies instead of a 12-point minigun. here's to boosted starter loadouts! Also I fixed up some tracking issues and squeezed out some more fps from my laptop. ran relatively smoothly for my second ever game of T&H, and i scored a 65k. thanks for inspiring me to get back into VR!

[@Hue_Sam]

The last two weapon draws are hilarious.

[@fredrik45mc]

The funny thing with the AK5 is that it actually has a bolt release but you actually need to tap it to drop it. It doesn't have a button for it.

[@jeditobiwan]

Yeah I forgot about that, along with thinking it was proprietary magazines. I become forgetful during these runs!

[@itsanofromme6099]

@@jeditobiwan yeah I was really face palming when you said no drums

[@jeditobiwan]

@@itsanofromme6099 too many guns!

[@c.d.w.3944]

Was literally just looking for another vid to put on. Perfect timing

[@LongTimeAgoNL]

Everytime I see a run I want to play H3VR again. It made me fall in love with the game all over again to see the amount of potential it has when you're so much more experienced with the controls, the guns, the aiming. Nice. Love the H3VR content. Subbed.

[@jeditobiwan]

Glad you enjoyed! Thank you for the sub!

[@unknown2903]

Dude my current apartment is super unfriendly to VR but Jedi makes me do it anyway lol

[@mercenarygamer1]

Another great run! I am enjoying these so much.

[@ilikemusic5440]

I had to leave a like just for that practical dual reload where he laid the 1911s on top of each other, I know he was just trying to show off but this is still a competition and I have to appreciate the effort.

[@chaseyounkin1748]

Every time I boot up the game, I go “I’m gonna take this run seriously.”. And then I turn on clown sosig mode.

[@johnnybullfrog8941]

I’m not mad just disappointed you choose the powerups

[@jeditobiwan]

Yeah, I felt a little part of me die inside. Not sure if I could have won without the shields, but its so against my style lol

[@gamespender8605]

@@jeditobiwan What is your thought process behind picking powerups vs, say, the mg?

[@jeditobiwan]

With AP incen in my AR, I can win the sosig fight. The most I'm going to get out of the 12 point is a drum magazine that I could have rolled for anyways, or the mini gun which wouldn't help me in node clearing. Going with the shields let's me focus on the nodes for a better score when the time comes.

[@aegis3d]

@@jeditobiwan Thanks for the insight, another question: what makes you choose an AR over a BR?

[@jeditobiwan]

6 point BR pool is garbage - M1A most of the time. I think you can get a 10 round FAL too, so that isn't as bad with the new mag upgrade stations. Just more variety in 6 point AR.

[@Schrodingers_kid]

I love these Can't get enough of them

[@pallav8725]

loving these videos!

[@firen777]

**nailing agiles only a few seconds in** Jedi: not great Me: ???

[@DinnerForkTongue]

This mofo is just built different.

[@volta2652]

competitive play exists at a timescale most of us mortals can never comprehend

[@hardygaming3454]

Always see you doing these cool competitions you’re quite good I think my first win on any h3 mode was cowwiener with spawnlock

[@ABulletShotOuttaAGlock]

The Cobray M10 curse strikes again!

[@sean5388]

Seems like a bit of a lucky charm at this point!

[@semperignotus]

The real meme would have been the minigun, but I totally get playing it safe for the win. Things were close that match. If it were earlier in the tourney, I would have loved to have seen you pull out the mini

[@Brilloisk]

Nice job Jedi, dang!

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Another tight run with many booty-ass weapon rolls. Good job on pulling through!

[@devileh]

Well done!

[@tankingbeast1132]

God, you make this look so easy I struggle after the 3rd hold

[@skittycat213]

I’m expecting a 5 page essay on why the Bren is the best gun of all time on my desk by tomorrow!

[@heavystalin2419]

John Browning. Here.

[@kingJ916-23]

I don’t own nor have I used a VR but I’ve been watching you for years lol I think it’s time.

[@MrYourfavoritezombie]

oh boy i love goulash! its 1000x better than having to go to the gulag!

[@vonBelfry]

Neat dual 1911s

[@ObsidianHunter99]

Wow, I really need to rethink my 5th hold strats, I haven't been using those shield weenies at all

[@jeditobiwan]

I tend to stay away from them, but I am throwing out all of the stops for the tournament this year!

[@jesses9540]

Have to ask how do you not get sweaty as hell playing with that for a long amounts of time its unbearable for me on the quest 2

[@jeditobiwan]

Luckily I just don’t seem to sweat too much. Chat used to make fun of me for being “Ol’ Dry Hands”

[@selectionn]

You dont, I dont think. I think the Quest 2 might be generating more heat than other headsets considering how underpowered it is for playing PCVR and VR in general.

[@HappyMan0203]

@@selectionn I think you might be right. I used to use a Rift S before I got my Quest 2, and I sweat noticably more on my Quest 2 than I did on my Rift S.

[@grqfes]

@@selectionn yeah. i can get into TNH, die on the third hold and already have lots of sweat on my face in an air conditioned room. when i take it off the front is really hot too so what you said has to be the case.

[@jesses9540]

@@selectionn Yeah it has to be that thing overheats like crazy even tho i play using my pc and link cable

[@hdbanana464]

I want to point out that the AK5c CAN take any stanag and can get upgraded mags.

[@jeditobiwan]

Yeah I found that out after the run during the Q&A - I must have just gotten lucky and rolled the matching magazine and assumed proprietary because im a dumb dumb

[@predatorlord6579]

Hey Jedi been a fan for a long time and love watching your tournament and modded runs. I recently joined the first 2 wurst discord and have been wanting to try to get into the tournament itself. What would be a good place to start? Any tips for practicing runs?

[@jeditobiwan]

Practice Operator Ori Standard Health Spawnlock runs! And pick the seeds one at a time to get used to them. They love forcing people into the hard seeds like 5.

[@soulsafe]

So do you guys get to pick your own difficulty modifiers to gamble dying vs the bonus, or are you all on the same settings?

[@jeditobiwan]

We can each pick our own, but generally there is a gentleman's agreement where both contestants run the same settings.

[@macnuke4771]

Just wondering, how do you get H3 to capture out of your right eye? I checked the options and I didn’t see anything for that.

[@jeditobiwan]

I am capturing using the OpenVR plugin source for OBS. You can also flip your wrist over, look for the Spectator Panel and hit the Right Eye option (you might need to switch the output to HD spectator too

[@sinor_be9814]

I got one Question is that are there limited Node points on the Map or do you just take nodes endlessly

[@jeditobiwan]

There are 5 holds with 3 waves of nodes each, if that is what you mean. There is also a version with 3 holds and one with infinite holds.

[@blitzy9408]

I'm curious, what TnH character get's used? I would guess classic loadout but I'm not sure. I'm new to the tnh tourney's and to tnh in general

[@jeditobiwan]

Operator Ori!

[@blitzy9408]

@@jeditobiwan oh sweet, thanks man!!

[@logichound9179]

Hi Jedi ! I got a quick question for you what program do you use to be able to record from one of your Valve Index Camera cause when im trying to use OBS default video capture it capture from both camera and it has a black surrounding it is not only a sharp circle like yours

[@jeditobiwan]

Hello! That is happening on mine, but I am cropping the output (hold alt while dragging the edges of the output) and then I have a mask that I apply to get rid of the black square part. After I am done with work, I can share the mask with you, if you'd like.

[@logichound9179]

@@jeditobiwan that would be amazing i would like to have it yes thank you very much Jedi

[@jeditobiwan]

@@logichound9179 if I don't respond with a link here by tonight, reply again to remind me!

[@jeditobiwan]

drive.google.com/file/d/1ax7Bx5DwGFYqsN88dhODkRLey2Oetc56/view?usp=sharing add that as a filter > effect filter for your camera source and have it set to Alpha Mask(Alpha Channel) - that should remove everything except for the right webcam circle. Hope this helps!

[@logichound9179]

@@jeditobiwan that helped alot huge thx for your time Jedi i wish you a great day.

[@kiroma0]

I can't find it anywhere, is slidebolt permitted in the tournament?

[@jeditobiwan]

I don't see any rules against it either. I would assume it is permitted. I do see users talk about using it in the F2W discord

[@kiroma0]

@@jeditobiwan It seems *MASSIVELY* overpowered, and I don't know if it's worth practicing it lol

[@jeditobiwan]

@@kiroma0 I haven't had good luck with it on index, I end up dropping the magazine a lot. Is nice otherwise!

[@chanelname1185]

Hey Jedi is this run though completely vanilla? Or do they allow some types of quality of life mods?

[@jeditobiwan]

All of the tournament runs are completely vanilla

[@ihave4friendsgaming78]

dude i've always thought he name was jedi to obiwan.........

[@NunSuperior]

AK5c is one of my favs but like so many in H3VR I like the controls to be on the trackpad for convenience. kzbin.info/www/bejne/raPHXoueisdsiKM

[@tankingbeast1132]

I did my highest scoring run today, but I died on final hold. I had 133k score, and before that, I had 86k working my way up, but I get pretty overwhelmed at the 4th to 5th hold and can get swarmed, especially when Im struggling to reload.

[@tankingbeast1132]

Also I do Ricky random

[@CPTYODA]

is the steamed on twitch or no

[@jeditobiwan]

Yes! All of the tournament runs are over at twitch.tv/first2wurst

[@lukenichols4025]

I would like to ask, would you happen to have a video guiding how to record H3VR gameplay? If not, then I can probably find another tutorial elsewhere, but I do still have one other question. I've recently started using H3 mods as of a week or two ago and I've noticed gameplay for me has lagged, gotten close to crashing, and actually crashed multiple times. Do you have a suggested way to lower H3 lag or a maximum number of mods you try to stay below? Thank you in advance.

[@jeditobiwan]

For recording, there isn't too much that you need. OBS to capture the game. And you can capture either the Desktop render or direct from the headset via the OpenVR plugin. I'll see about doing a video to help out. For the lag, that is just kind what happens with mods. One thing that can help is more RAM, because a lot of that has to get loaded on top of the game. If you don't have a lot of extra it can bog you down quickly. Mods like MODUL also kill the frames no matter whats due to their use of the attachment system, very CPU heavy. Hope some of this helps!

[@grqfes]

idk but you can just game capture the steamvr vr view if thats too laggy try game capturing the game itslef but the image might be weirder

[@lukenichols4025]

@@jeditobiwan Thank you!

[@FreddyMan2020]

How intense is Take and Hold?

[@1stCallipostle]

Yes.

[@zeris221]

Depends on your taste for vr shooting. It makes me sweat but I can do it for a few hours at a time.

[@ragemodeonline7778]

If you turn the AI down and give yourself a boat load more hp its not bad. If you do one hit with everything turned up its much more intense.

[@HappyMan0203]

It's very character and setting dependent. On something like Beginner Blake or Ricky Dicky Random, it's pretty relaxed. But on characters like Cowweiner Calico or Welldone Freemeat it gets very intense.

[@Shambler4]

Hey jeditobiwan any cool thing you got to see

[@jeditobiwan]

What do you mean? I haven't done much IRL lately to see anything cool, if you mean that!

[@Shambler4]

@@jeditobiwan like new mods or skins

[@jeditobiwan]

Ah! Haven't seen too much since GunGame, been too busy with the tournament and making my own slowno mod!

[@Scott.E.H]

Was internally screaming when you didn't at least try for a new SMG. Best case you could have rolled away the spare 1911 and that piece of crap and make it with only a 1 point loss

[@jeditobiwan]

I considered it, but I have learned to live with single fire on them to save points.

[@Caddynars]

Does taking down the wieners speed up the node spawns? I always wondered about that.

[@jeditobiwan]

Nope! I believe there is some pre-determined randomness to when the nodes will spawn, but they are pretty much set in stone. A few waves do happen quickly though (hold 3 and 4 wave 1 come to mind)

[@Caddynars]

@@jeditobiwan I see, so they follow a pre-determined pattern that’s randomly selected.

[@The-e]

If you want the full commentary and competitor pov kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpOYmniZZZJ7b7s

[@delitost_404]

오큘러스/패이스북 무한루프애 갇쳐서 vr을 못한다..

[@coba3220]

What do all the weiners do? I don't have VR cuz poverty and i only watch Jedi's stuff on this game, so I barely have any knowledge.

[@jeditobiwan]

There are a few different powerups. The shield ones I grabbed make me invulnerable. There is infinite ammo ones, bullet and melee power boosts, invisibility, and some goofy ones like cyclops that turns you into Cyclops from xmen lol

[@coba3220]

@@jeditobiwan thanks!