Pre Arrival: Heavy Fire Showing, Whitehall, Pa - 6.14.21

[@ClamChowder_FireBuff69]

When the chief on the only line deployed does more than everyone on scene

[@cluckhead1913]

The chief makes more money than anyone else, so yeah, he should do more work than anyone else.

[@Logan-eo1zq]

The chief shouldent be doing ANY work

[@chosenone1004]

Just a FYI , if you cut into that garage door about a blades length a foot away or even closer to that handle the door will go right up . All you have to do is cut that cross bar that locks both sides of the door . Normally one cut will release the lock and it will roll up

[@TempoDrift1480]

Well these are a bunch of Dylan's and Caden's so they wouldn't fuckin know that. I bet they can unlock any door in minecraft though.

[@iuliandragomir1]

I agree, but where was the show? They don't have to parade with all the equipment as if it's the 4th of July and not a fire

[@portagepete1]

@@iuliandragomir1 LOL your right, I could put out that fire by myself faster than all these guys together.

[@herpes010]

Probably have a garage door openers, and with no power and they're not going to open. You don't use those locks when you have a garage door openers anyway. An option might be to cut a little hole in the top center of the door and reach through and pull the emergency release and then the door to go right up?

[@TheDiabeticDietShow]

Good job filming mike. Your closeups of the firefighters were great. Most people need a tripod they are shaking so much. And they film mostly the flames whitch is like watching paint dry. You had great up-close transitions. I ducted when the guy pulled the ladder off the truck I felt I was that close. The fire fighters are the story content and the fire is just the reason why. Keep up the good work. Retired Firefighter, James

[@ghostbirdlary]

seems like he has experience and knows what hes doing

[@KPaul77]

Thats a pretty nice house to use for training like that.

[@Eginhardt]

The brick colour is awful in my opinion

[@dustinwhite4215]

I thought the same thing due to windows already being vented. But then I thought maybe its abandoned

[@toddprater14]

@@Eginhardt looks like they may be old reclaimed bricks

[@TheWaynelds]

@@dustinwhite4215 If it was abandoned then it’s likely that all of the utilities were cut off since nobody would be there and there wouldn’t be anyway for a fire to start.

[@gusbailey68]

@@TheWaynelds mice with matches; they'll get you every time.

[@greyjay9202]

"We need a hydrant ..." Well, yes you do, and you should know in advance where they are.

[@jasminelindros8923]

It is LITERALLY impossible to reach this house via public streets without passing a hydrant. The farthest one is under 600' away from the front door, but the incident commander(s) don't know this. How is this possible?

[@mikeswarthout7911]

Yes you do need a firehidren

[@chosenone1004]

@@jasminelindros8923 Yea I’m not exactly sure why that engine didn’t just lay right in . Or reverse lay out . Maybe if the chiefs were running the fire and not putting it out they could have give Those orders ?

[@tinsmith4540]

Are they not allowed to use their hoses until the arial units have arrived?

[@ericcastle7296]

Put the hose pipe through the grooves l o l

[@hihfty]

I guess everyone gets to be a chief in this place.

[@RLTtizME]

Even you from your Lazy Boy. Time to suck out those old farts. They are piling up .

[@gusbailey68]

hats?

[@mikhailt.v8729]

XGbk syhzC gSx gaurur 4u

[@RLTtizME]

@@mikhailt.v8729 Yes but your gut still looks like it is at war with your pants.

[@masterbond9]

The guy who's in charge is just a glorified babysitter. The fact that the chief DOESN'T have to stand around telling people what needs to be done is pretty good to me

[@kklein1240]

Nice to see the air packs are just for decoration. Lots to pick apart on this one. This is why we train.

[@asbestosfiber]

And no need for any eyepro when smashing second floor windows. Only babies worry about that.

[@Gruntm203]

@@asbestosfiber safety Nazis; please STFU

[@robertwalton7307]

God Bless the one man ladder putter upper..

[@sturnie1]

As a person who uses a ladder every day I cringed at their skills!

[@nelsonperez9153]

This fire dept is slow in putting a fire out?

[@thomasprociuk9079]

no its just the fire has nothing left to burn

[@Bigbluehawk2]

Thank you for the video. Hopefully it can be used in their post review of this fire to improve their tactics. They will need it.

[@justanotherguy1110]

After watching a lot of videos from these guys over time past year or so, they don't seem to be doing any good, if anything they just get worse

[@ffjsb]

Hopefully they can use it to justify starting a fire department.

[@notthatdonald1385]

@@justanotherguy1110 Agreed. They're pathetic. While doing a dangerous job too.

[@renbag]

Anyone know if this is an all volunteer, combination, or career department?

[@jwadams1202]

@@renbag Its all volunteer. 4 stations in Whitehall Township. The Chief is a paid career position who oversees all 4 stations.

[@AdvistaVideo]

Good video production. I wish you had a time displayed so we can see how much time elapsed till it was out.

[@brett76544]

we had garage by the NYS line on SR 11 where the last fire hydrant on the PA failed to work along with the line on the NY side of the boarder. The Conklin pumper truck had to drive into a field and pump water from the river due to water lines failing and hydrants not being maintained by the water companies.

[@jeffheyman8537]

I passed that Monday weird to see it burnt to the ground.

[@brett76544]

@@jeffheyman8537 we were talking about that at the borough council meeting and it raised some questions about hydrants in the borough since they do not want the fire company to check them. Then there is what happened at the Summit Inn with the pipe under the creek that failed. The funny part was, NMMA could not find the leak, then even put on Facebook for people to look for a leak. Then they called in PA American Water to help them and found in a few hours. We even had inquires by PA American water about NMMA at the sewer plant.

[@portagepete1]

While there is not a fire can't somebody from the fire department go out and check hydrants.

[@boatbound3300]

I wonder how long this was burning before being called in

[@johnbednarcik9359]

Whitehall is a volunteer (mostly) department

[@marshanotmarcia7433]

@@johnbednarcik9359 Matters less than a virgin in hell. You are either trained or you are not...... I come from a vol FF family and have always lived in towns with volunteers, who trained and worked their a$$es off for their community. Any weak link was dealt with accordingly.

[@johnbednarcik9359]

@@marshanotmarcia7433 what? someone was wondering how long it was burning. Whitehall township if i am not mistaken is mostly volunteer. Hence it would take a few extra minutes for the FF to either get to the station or to the fire itself. In their personal vehicles they can use the blue light but still have to follow speed limits.

[@marianneturner7267]

I was wondering the same thing @Boat Bound, that fire had a hell of a start before being called in.

[@ffjsb]

@@johnbednarcik9359 Whitehall is big enough that they should have a FULL TIME FD.

[@stihlpoon5821]

Just one line in operations??. Correct me if I'm wrong..

[@barroningram7286]

the stations must be far away from this neighborhood , this house was gone before they got there

[@PhillipRhodes]

Do you know how advanced the fire was when it was called in? I've seen buildings that were fully involved before dispatch. I'd hesitate to jump to conclusions...

[@richwertman2352]

The art of a blitz attack is lost these days🥲

[@tealtornado9361]

deck gun is your friend

[@PMAN-jj1hn]

Please stop!

[@chrisbarr1359]

Big fire, big water! Don't lead off with a 1 3/4" handline!

[@ffjsb]

@@chrisbarr1359 This...

[@hvfd5956]

@@chrisbarr1359 Hooray! I wasn't the only one who after one look thought 2 1/2 minimum attack line. This one was too far gone before anyone got there. When I ran with the Box-4 Fire Buffs in Dallas (1980's), SOP was first in, Deck gun, second in gets the plug. Unless...radio traffic "Pull up your boots and bring your water with you". Then everybody that could caught a plug. I remember before I became a volunteer Fire fighter, still a kid, I rode my bicycle to a 4-11 apartment fire 10 miles away and seeing two pumpers drafting out of the swimming pool. That was back before Houston ran enough 50 and 60 inch water mains so there was plenty of water. Another one, late 70's apartment fire, common attic, a block away there was one lone 1950's vintage Mack pumper, connected to the steamer outlet of a plug that had been hit by a car. Another pumper dropped 2- 21/2's off the side outlets(before the days of LDH). Mack pumper was pumping out all 4 of his 2 1/2 outlets...and driver made a comment that he was supplying 1/3 of all the water going on the fire and he still had 60lbs of static pressure on the main. Didn't make sense at the time, but I later found out the city had a 60" going west and a different 60" going north from the freeway. Now days, since that area has "grown up" the city has the 60" which was replaced about 10 years ago and added a pair of 48 inch mains down the same street. All 3 lines have booster pumps every few miles. No water shortages now.

[@pjkolb7962]

Have these guys ever thrown a ground ladder before? Are they issued fire gloves?? Too many questions

[@glennhuber4975]

Then stop asking stupid questions. I love all you at home firefighters who think they know so much.

[@jasminelindros8923]

@@glennhuber4975 You are welcome to provide some answers, Glenn, just as you are welcome to continue whining. Your choice.

[@glennhuber4975]

@@jasminelindros8923 another country heard from, I’m a volunteer ff, and I’m not here to give lessons , but if both of you would like to come to my station, I’m sure we can fit you both with gear, get ya a nice house fire, and see how you do. It’s not called whining, it’s called sticking up for my brothers against people who have no idea.

[@jasminelindros8923]

@@glennhuber4975 Do you stick up for your brothers who are poorly trained, Glenn, and doing an amateurish or unsafe job? How long have you known PJ, so you can state that s/he has no idea? Or are you just whining? Learning and training will help you do your job better than whining, Glenn. I've never seen a "nice house fire," I've only seen property damage that I would never, ever, call "nice." What part of a burning house is "nice," Glenn?

[@firevike2420]

@@glennhuber4975 yep, Im a Volunteer and NOPE, ain’t sticking up for these clowns! This is the stuff that gives us a bad name and politicians ammunition to disbanding volunteer companies… Hopefully some good can come out of this display, before someone gets hurt or killed!

[@margief1798]

This is what aggravated me when I was a firefighter, You have battalion chiefs and captains and lieutenants grab in the noz zle and everything else when it's the job of us firefighters to do it because they had their time but Tanya's you don't belong going into the structure or being on the hoseline!!!!!

[@aclass9830]

Thanks for your career as a volunteer firefighter

[@Bacanalable]

@@aclass9830 Be an adult!!!

[@Woodsy400]

Short staffed, they had to pick up the slack. Volunteer company.

[@thomasprociuk9079]

everyone gets a white shield

[@williamgray6209]

What made you think to lead off with your smallest water line? No bucket to the roof to vent? Where was the interior push? Why were so many firemen standing around before the tower ladder got there? How long did it take for the first due engine company to get there? Why are members using equipment with no gloves? Why did the door have to be destroyed, when the front door was open and the window for the garage was also open? Why didn't the first arriving engine lay in? Are there career companies up that way? These questions are not to be harmful, only pointing out the obvious.

[@glennhuber4975]

Why so many stupid questions? You can do better, go to your next fore job at your local department, tell them how to do it, I bet ya get punched, I dare you!

[@williamgray6209]

@@glennhuber4975 Well, it just so happens that I don't have to reduce myself to violence, like yourself. My tactics are leaned from years of experience from other aggressive fire chiefs and officers. I rarely engage in "stupid questions." Maybe you should re-read the solid questions of basic fire tactics. It is not my fault that your fire district is lacking in basic training, career staff and/or a staffed station. Actually Glenn, when I arrive or did arrive at active fire grounds, I was given respect because of learned aggressive and thorough methods of fire attack. I had the privilege of having many years as a lower ranking fire officer. I became well known as an aggressive and a basic engine, ladder and rescue company officer. The tactics leaned were because of chief officers before me that I respected. I trust that you and your department should do the same, instead of becoming a bully to those who are purely asking questions and not beating you up over sloppy and dangerous fire attack methods. Oh! I almost forgot to mention a lack of NFPA facial hair policy violations. Have a safe holiday.

[@henrikmodin4235]

At 1:43. What are the chains hanging down under the firetruck for?

[@FireRescue80]

They are used in snowy and icy conditions to gain traction.

[@alfredosoup9434]

They're called automatic tire chains

[@JaimeStrad]

Display purpose

[@curtisanderson9062]

The ladder was not placed where it should be The hooks at the top are so you can hook them on window sill so you can get water through the window. Where it was placed does no good.

[@donnadreyer2580]

A Brick House can be leveled in a matter of seconds, when I was in High School a predominantly wealthy Family lived in a brick Ranch, I saw the house the next morning going to School, it was gone, burned to the ground. This was 31 Years Ago. Edit : I live in Pennsylvania and Our Firefighters are Professionals ! Nice Work Guys. I'm not too far from Pittsburgh.

[@tamarahaislip1730]

That's because it just the facade of the house. It's like siding only on the outside

[@echohunter66]

this is just brick facade ..all wood underneath

[@EricG7713]

With that many chiefs I’m willing to bet still none of them completed a 360 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@kingrorytm2211]

Let’s play a game how many dam Cheif’s do you see

[@glennhuber4975]

Bet one did, and your eyes just seen what they wanted,

[@glennhuber4975]

@@kingrorytm2211 let’s play a game, how many asshole comments can be made by dumb asses who know nothing…

[@EricG7713]

@@glennhuber4975 nah my eyes saw what the video showed me. 👍🏼

[@thomasprociuk9079]

lost the back side of the development no worries

[@portagepete1]

Where are all the people? are all these houses empty. Does anybody next door have a hose or fire extinguisher?

[@dbyers3897]

Get real. Civilians attacking a house fire with a water pistol is another rescue to be performed when the fire crews arrive. Get out. Get the F#@K OUT!

[@Dragonballguy270]

Do they have a lot of chiefs riding or do the white helmets mean something else

[@harrisonschmidt7596]

Looking at their helmet shields they do appear to all be chiefs. A crap ton of them!

[@PMAN-jj1hn]

Time to demote a few of those dum dums; too many BC’s man, looked a little timid to me!

[@willie14donna]

Just watched 20 vids in a row from Pa firefighters ! First one firemen use water before Insurance Co comes up, and did the job! Congratulations real firefighters!

[@aaronkershner2685]

Ok as a former captain and safety officer. 1. When the ladder truck arrived why didn’t they attack the fire with the lines off that truck and have the second due engine catch the hydrant and lay into them? Second on 2:47 the fire fighter on the hose working the door wearing an SCBA but he isn’t hooked up. Sorry but there is still heat and smoke coming out! At 2:38 you can see his regulator hanging in front of him.

[@Fvtfvt]

sorry he wasnt yard breath. #endsafteyculture we have a job to do!

[@NVPMedia]

The truck has no water on it and no hose that’s why they didn’t stretch from it

[@sturnie1]

@@NVPMedia if thats the case then that truck shouldn't roll let alone be first due. Its called negligence and border line criminal. If it isnt full of gear, water and a minimum amount of bodies its OOS

[@Jimmythefish577]

@@NVPMedia what’s the point in having a fire truck with no attack lines or water? That’s the dumbest idea yet, might as well just have a bucket truck like the power company uses.

[@NVPMedia]

@@Jimmythefish577 There are vehicles mainly ladder trucks out there that do not carry water the purpose of the vehicle is for elevated use that is why the engine companies come along with it. There are many departments that have ladder or tower trucks that do not carry water, The engine company was right behind this vehicle and they handled fire attack. And yes new ladder trucks will also have water and hose on them because of manpower issues.

[@shawnfogle6096]

You can go inside, it makes things a lot easier.

[@RLTtizME]

Can you drive your Barcalounger actually on the street?

[@shawnfogle6096]

@@RLTtizME that’s a good one, I’ll give you that!

[@timothyratliff1422]

As a volunteer firefighter I wouldn't send my firefighters at the beginning dont know if there 8a a risk of collapse

[@joemagliari11]

@@timothyratliff1422 shame on you. Using the “volunteer” title to pass the buck is an absolute disgrace. You either train to do you job well or you don’t do it at all. If you don’t want to go interior on a fire to ducking SAVE PROPERTY, and DO YOUR JOB you should hang it the fuck up dude. What a disgrace.

[@JBart3112]

I’ve seen a number of videos of these folks “fighting fire”. Believe me, you don’t want them going inside.

[@mjgpmg]

C.H.A.O.S Chiefs Have Arrived On Scene 😂😂😂😂

[@erickaegi629]

So true! Just like my bosses at work!

[@bigtuna4037]

Chief Has An Operational Solution

[@jacksheet2395]

Kansas City Chiefs? In Steele's territory

[@canessoftball1]

Do those departments issue fire gloves? If two people are struggling to control an 1 3/4" line, you probably are pumping it with too much pressure....

[@jasonbennett6780]

Thanks guys for all you do!

[@RollsRoyceGuy]

Another nice video of a foundation saved

[@owensweetland342]

Why cut the garage door. Front door was open.

[@ffjsb]

Bet there was a man door around back too.

[@gibco25-offical56]

Their were holes in the floor.

[@Madmac96]

I'm just here to read all the comments from the KZbin firefighters, telling us what the actual firefighters are doing wrong. Never ceases to amuse me.

[@PhillipRhodes]

Here's what gets me (not necessarily about this specific video, but rather in general) - most of the time, we get one angle, which shows maybe 120 degrees of visibility at best, with NO real visibility into what's going on through the vast majority of the fire ground, coupled with miscellaneous jump cuts which make it impossible to know how the video time corresponds to actual chronological time on scene, we usually know nothing about the specific department's policies, staffing, response times for mutual aid units, etc., etc., etc. So despite knowing a little bit about maybe 4 or 5 variables out of about 200 that affect the outcomes, the armchair quarterbacks instantly assume they know everything about what's going on, and proceed to pass judgment about what they see. It's quite ridiculous, frankly.

[@louisc.gasper7588]

@@PhillipRhodes Oh, come on, now. Don't you know that a single KZbin video captures everything? And don't you know that anyone can analyze a fire from that video and reconstruct all variables? The fact, discovered after the fire, that it was probably arson couldn't have anything to do with the progress of the fire, could it? The comment that says they should have gone inside to be more effective in knocking down the fire is surely right -- even though the second floor of this house collapsed and would have killed anyone inside. All sarcasm aside, the commenters who have actually worked in boots and a helmet may have some excuse for critiquing the firefighters, but even they seem to me too often to lack measure and caution in their comments.

[@eddiespagetti8395]

Ha ha it's hilarious. KZbin experts also have the real estate crisis figured out and all worlds problems. It's so entertaining these KZbin experts are amazing wealth.of stupidity and cluelessness that will never be found anywhere else on earth. What a privilege we have to see these experts share their meaningless opinions

[@TempoDrift1480]

You can't tell me this ain't a fuckin shit show .

[@SpartacusColo]

Ya... PPE is so overrated. Everyone knows that the officers are the ones who do all the grunt work. And one guy laddering a two story building while a few guys are standing around watching the guy trying to run the K12? Everyone knows that's how they do it in the Bigs.

[@singledad1313]

What in the heck? Four apparatuses, a dozen fire fighter, but only one line being used? Did none of the other trucks have hoses on them?

[@robertwalton7307]

imagine if the bucket could hold six stalwart chaps! All that money for hose spent for nothing.

[@4merLawman]

looked like a lot of kids with white helmets, you could see by their tactics the lack of experience. glad no one got hurt

[@paramedic1210]

Welcome to today’s fire service

[@michaelsheffler5710]

And what would you have changed the whole house was off... a transitional attack was the only option at arrival you should keep your opinions yo your self...it's hard to tell by a video that's is cutting to different scenes every 15 seconds...and also that area is almost entirely volunteer

[@joemagliari11]

@@michaelsheffler5710 the whole house was not off. You are the issue. There was fire out 2 maybe 3 windows. It’s amazing what happens when you take a door, flow as you go and fight fire from the inside. I feel for the people who live in this community, I’d live in fear having fire protection like that.

[@joemagliari11]

@@michaelsheffler5710 and the volunteer / career debate is not valid anymore. You either train like you care and want to save lives or property, or you just don’t give a fuck at all. And if you’re at that point you may as well hang it the fuck up. Excuses are like assholes, everyone has one.

[@michaelsheffler5710]

@@joemagliari11 it absolutely is a debate I'm fortunate in our city we have everything we need as far as training...our own training facility, everything is at our fingertips... however every volunteer department does not have means and it's hard enough to train on your own time with the amount of hours required let alone having a family and a job...and having to say fuck every other word isn't necessary to get your point across.

[@bigtuna4037]

6 trucks and 1 hoseline out of all of them. Some must fail so that others may learn.

[@poppiarlin5612]

Why is it necessary to start setting up the aerial device first? If the aerial is a quint it has a pump, hose, and water use it instead of setting up the aerial.

[@tjlovesrachel]

Def not a quint

[@raymondbushey4805]

Not to mention the stabilizers go down the aerial doesn't leave the bed till the fire is out

[@r.a.hassel8006]

This ladder was not a quint. Whitehall tower 6 does not have a pump and water. Oh by the way it is standard practice for all ladder companies to set the outriggers at fires pretty much in all the fire depts. across the country.

[@heavy7799]

Why do long to put boom up..?

[@r.a.hassel8006]

@@heavy7799 Because they never intended to use it.

[@DianaKoenig-sz8sd]

Why are FF in the smoke not wearing their masks? Wearing a pack on your back doesn't do any good if the mask is not in place.

[@PhillipStewart-k7f]

There not trained to go n.

[@colnorth]

all those firemen and only 1 hose?

[@michaelschultz2811]

Does the black smoke is a Electric fire

[@FireRescue80]

Nice video Mike!

[@JuniorFan08]

Looked up and found the house on Google maps. Street view shows it standing and boarded up with the date shortly after the fire. Over head view show a new house being built.

[@BW12149]

A perfect explanation of CHAOS…Chief Has Arrived On Scene. I guess they don’t have firefighters just chiefs. Since when does the incident command chief get on a hose line and fight fire? And in the platform? Wow!

[@dldave1978]

Not a critique of the firefighters .....because I’ve never done the job. But when it’s this far gone before anyone is on scene, why not just let it burn to the ground? Less use of resources, firefighters don’t risk life and limb making entry, and less crap to throw in a dumpster a few days later? Just curious. Seems a lot of these house fire videos on the Tube are total losses before anyone gets there.

[@baconbooger4256]

When you get defeated by the 14foot ladder 😂

[@tamarahaislip1730]

I definitely have a healthy respect for fire. There times I don't sleep at night from fear of not being able to react.

[@michaelbecker3513]

Great video dude!!!!

[@rickprusak9326]

With all those firefighters standing around with their hands in their pockets, and their mouths open in wonderment, how come no firefighter helped the lone firefighter with the aluminum ladder to help him set it up against the outer wall? The poor guy looked like he was fighting a monster in extending the ladder around sightseers wearing firefighting gear. The lone ladder handling firefighter looked like Moe working alone with the other Stooges making sandwiches during the blaze.

[@geraldoestaurdo9930]

That’s a one man ladder but that firefighter obviously lacked training/experience. I do agree with you though when someone struggles usually others will help out. Poor job by this bunch.

[@allanlester3561]

kid nearly got his head blown off by mr. hoseman

[@BrandonShappell-pz1ir]

First 2 engines in and neither drop a supply line?

[@midwayization]

There is a Whitehall Twp in Allegheny Co. PA and in Lehigh Twp PA my guess this is the latter as none of the terrain or houses etc. match the author failed to do due diligence on where it was at

[@jebcommon2332]

Great camera work, awsome hustle to attack the fire.

[@waterfall6677]

I've never seen fire captains and fire chiefs in full gear on the hose like that before

[@gingerbread6614]

Great going guys. Thank you

[@Pstanich]

Lack of urgency

[@matt.stevick]

How to nice new houses catch on fire? Is it owners for insurance?

[@danielebrparish4271]

Leaving something on the stove, making meth, forgetting to turn off a space heater, Christmas tree not watered, a kid leaving a curling iron on the bed without unplugging it, leaving without extinguishing a candle, using gasoline or other flammable liquids in the home and many other reasons.

[@matt.stevick]

@@danielebrparish4271 what about playing with matches

[@danielebrparish4271]

@@matt.stevick Yes, there are lots of possibilities but 75% of all house fires are caused by a stove that was left on.

[@matt.stevick]

@@danielebrparish4271 but how does the fire spread from stove to other things … it’s contained to the stove

[@danielebrparish4271]

@@matt.stevick Usually it's the result of oil or fat in a pan that is cooking on a stove. The oil/fat will ignite and the flames will ignite the cabinets above the stove or the wall behind it.kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioHbgpafqqhrobs kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3PXh2p6lLacpNU kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5qWoJqCotxrotk kzbin.info/www/bejne/in6Zn2qldqllZ9k

[@dmac75287]

Was it truly necessary to cut through both garage doors? They had access through the front door!

[@ps4progress436]

Every time I watch a video like this, they are cutting something!! Or "venting "

[@tjlovesrachel]

Insurance

[@jimbos76cj]

Absolutely not.. they should have kept them intact so the family had some place to store any thing that the FD didn’t let burn up..

[@Pyle81]

Hey, They saved the garage and the basement.

[@andrewdaley3081]

The basement is now a indoor pool

[@stevenbowers4164]

The only reason they saved more than the foundation is the home had some bricks in it, advice for any locals retro fit sprinklers

[@tomh3652]

Good job getting water on it fast. I don't care if it's only a guy peeing on it. Lol

[@sahmuleadams5270]

Not much could be done here. Surround and drowned. Post flashover disaster. Master streams!!!

[@captharriott]

Way to not use the tower ladder! Really?

[@lydiaanderson4247]

@David Harriott hello how are you doing

[@audreyburress4495]

3 trucks and still throwing a ground (roof) ladder

[@bobdambra4421]

Does anybody pick up a hydrant when they have a working fire??? They drove right by it

[@TARTANATORscotland]

Hope everyone has got out u firefighters are the real heroes out there risking your lives to save others running into fires when people are running out played fire fighting simulator was bad enough

[@DeafDiver]

That's a total loss. I Hope the family have insurance for that house

[@trvman1]

If not for being brick, it would have burned to the ground. Just another example of how newer homes go up in flames in just minutes.

[@gibco25-offical56]

The house was going to be rebuilt.

[@bobestell2767]

Being it is 2021, it is hard to believe they still put out fires like it is still the 1800's.

[@r.a.hassel8006]

And how do you know how fires were fought in the 1800's, were you there?

[@johnjablonski9292]

real expert on fire fighting Patriot??? didn't think so

[@ffjsb]

It speaks volumes that it's not unusual for photographers and the "fire police" to beat the actual "fire dept." to fires in Pa. I don't know how anyone can afford fire insurance there. It's clear that the fire was running out of fuel before they put water on the fire.

[@Eginhardt]

Fire police are apart of actual Fire and police departments

[@bruinsfn17]

It’s tough when most places are Volunteer

[@thomasprociuk9079]

lucky for the insurance company

[@renbag]

Maybe if the fucking fire police took a little time and went to fire school they would be an asset on the fire ground. Blocking/diverting traffic at a fire scene like this is basically pointless b/c they’re in the middle of a small residential neighborhood.

[@dcsmooth]

Even Jimmy John’s showed up before them!

[@micheas_westward]

Anybody in the house ?

[@shamrock1961]

Very disappointing video of a poor response and firefighters standing around wondering if the should start hosing down that fire.

[@johnjablonski9292]

i seen worse lots of FDNY videos

[@michaeldimeo9429]

How do you know it was a poor response? You know nothing unless you have the dispatch times/response times/arrival

[@Stoneham64]

Great example of a bad example! Maybe this department uses their RIT engine to lay a line.

[@nathankaufmann2925]

Y have scba’s if not going to use them. If this was In my county we would be interior as soon as we get there. This video is just embarrassing.

[@xaxoon69]

Do you have to demolish the burned-out brick building, or can you rebuild something like that?

[@jonboogy]

Depends on the construction and how much of the frame has survived

[@matthewscalise3553]

Is there any particular reason not one handline went through the front door??

[@johnjablonski9292]

did you see the way flames are rolling out,,, god some of you people have NO clue on physics of fire

[@firefighterpk2440]

@@johnjablonski9292 you happen to know the physics of water on fire? If i remember right it's about 16,000 to 1 water to steam.............Make a little steam through a window to lay the fire down a bit ( as he did), then get their asses in their before it builds back up. Pretty simple concept, done it numerous times in my 25 years

[@theno1deejay]

As usual, fast on place, but, were is the water?

[@Bobbyd0052]

GREAT CATCH ! THANK YOU VERY MUCH !

[@EricKaegi]

Will someone kindly explain to me why the guys who are close to the fire AREN'T wearing gloves?

[@SumSouuthernSugar]

Great video!

[@bng9268]

do the firefighters over there work that slow? sorry I'm seriously asking

[@Woodsy400]

That company has a shortage of volunteers. They are a good company over all. This was on the news stating they were short staffed for this incident.

[@firefighterpk2440]

@@Woodsy400 no mutual aide agreements to have other companies dispatched on a Box?

[@CatholicBoy1957]

Let's suppose the firemen would all have taken massive doses of amphetamines as they jumped into the trucks on their way and worked several times faster. Now tell me how many dollars the homeowner/insurance would have saved. Everyone join in with a quote. 100,000 less damage? 10,000? Throw me some numbers. .

[@cornelfrancis5048]

Somebody please tell me this is a training video.

[@philipperiopel1911]

Were there cars in the garages?

[@corybarney93]

Hey guys, you have SCBAs. Use them, get inside and do your job… well… I guess job would be implied you’re a professional and get compensated. Not this circle jerk of a hobby house.

[@timothyratliff1422]

As a former volunteer firefighter if i was chief i wouldn't send my guys into the house, surround and drown, keep the firefighters safe

[@corybarney93]

@@timothyratliff1422 if you start an argument “As a volunteer” your opinion is irrelevant

[@funkidyo]

@@corybarney93 If you're not aggressive then all you are is foundation savers

[@Jimmythefish577]

‘Get inside and do your job’? The structure was fully involved prior to their arrival, how exactly would they ‘get inside’? This isn’t a single room and contents fire, it’s very obviously flashed over throughout division 1, ‘going Interior’ isn’t an option, if you think it is you’re dumber than you sound, and that’s really saying something.

[@timothyratliff1422]

@@Jimmythefish577 thank you

[@ytubepuppy]

That is what is known as a "loser" fire. No hope of saving it. And like some have commented, one hose, and the guy almost caused it to explode at 4:43 by shutting it down too fast. On fire hoses, you open the nozzle valve fast, close it slowly. I wonder if they ever got the garage doors cut open?

[@patriciamccune2227]

They did the garage doors open if you look at 4:39 they are open.

[@patrickhamilton9242]

I'm sure the homeowners would have appreciated a bit more hustle.

[@Shadowfax-1980]

@@patrickhamilton9242 the firefighters would probably have appreciated not having had to arrive to a well-engulfed home if the homeowner had an alarm system that would have sent a call out when the smoke detectors went off. Judging by how bad this is going, it looks like someone had to wait fore the fire to come out the windows before the call was made.

[@stephensails]

The people handling the ladders LOL

[@peterjackson2666]

Either a training exercise, or perhaps new construction unfinished inside. There seem to be no furnishings inside any of the window, and they look like they have no glass in them. such houses burn really fast.

[@inherentnature5938]

Chiefs…so many chiefs…

[@nobull4414]

Living in Whitehall, Pa., you need fire sprinklers. Engine 3911 pulls up without securing a hydrant. WOW!!

[@rosesmith6208]

so this was a training fire?

[@gibco25-offical56]

No

[@2olvets443]

Saw roof of chief first on scene, should have been on radio instructing second in to pick up hydrant! Tower on scene, second in engine and a fire fighter says we need a hydrant. Wow!

[@HighOnLife1985]

What the hell was that with the engine coming up code 3 and then they're asking about a hydrant? Might as well let the place go.

[@50rbrt]

Why weren't they there sooner?

[@tjlovesrachel]

Why weren’t you born 3 days before you were actually born?

[@genezehring6057]

How sad, this was a disaster on ever level.

[@sigsourr]

Impressive crew of all chiefs there in the beginning

[@Sceen-name]

Wow. Armchair warriors gonna love this one

[@HB-yq8gy]

I’m not criticizing but, the truck was set up but not used initially?

[@walterfink9782]

A total loss. Even before the fire department showed up.

[@richardbradley6038]

You're right. No saving it at this point.

[@stevenbowers4164]

True but you are supposed to show at least a little urgency about putting water on the fire, it makes the taxpayers feel like they are actually paying for a decent service

[@walterfink9782]

@@stevenbowers4164 I totally agree. When have you seen a fire, like this one, where the fire fighters, arrive, hook up the hoses to the hydrant than the truck, then spray water on the fire?That quick? Hardly never. Other factors need to be taken in, before water or foam or both are used. That's the captain's responsibility.

[@CatholicBoy1957]

@@stevenbowers4164 Is Whitehall a paid department or volunteer? I better not say Northampton pays their firefighters too much. .

[@bettermost]

Exactly. It’s a tear down no matter how you look at it.

[@rustynail6819]

Sucks seeing someones house go up. Good stop by all.

[@peterblack1639]

Looks like an entire write off......very sad for the Family.

[@freebird7284]

or good

[@freebird7284]

that house was toast when they got there

[@dawnoakley1776]

Why is it when any video like this is shown whether its from the USA , UK or any other part of the world, people have to be so critical and vile to each other!!! Every fire department has its own skills and ways of dealing with these fires , im sure these firefighters wherever they are in the world do their best while risking their own lives after going through continuous ongoing training, just for other people and fire departments from around the world to slate them and put them down. Those who do just that need to get a grip and remember that sometime in these firefighters careers, theyve saved someones life! , someones property!, and someones child!!! So stop being self rightous and just appreciate that they are there doing a job that not many people can do, cus one day you may need them!! Its just sickening to read these negative comments!!!

[@jesslambert4819]

If this was your house would you be satisfied with how they handled it. I bet you wouldn't. This was absolute chaos with no leadership or organization. Everyone just walking around. One or 2 hoses running. No clue where the hydrants were. This was awful and they clearly don't train nearly enough. People aren't being mean they are being honest. Honesty isn't always nice.

[@dawnoakley1776]

@@jesslambert4819 yet another judgemental person!!! Were you there? Are you so experienced in firefighting! Mmmmm🤔 just stop it!!!!

[@jesslambert4819]

@@dawnoakley1776 you don't know me or what I do for living. You are one of those who dislike facts. You want everything sugar coated. Facts are facts. Deal with it.

[@dawnoakley1776]

@@jesslambert4819 and you dont know me darling! But you do know that im not judgemental, unlike you! The world would be a better place if people like you didnt have to criticise others and the job they do! Now jog on and have a lovely day❤️

[@jesslambert4819]

@@dawnoakley1776 you ma'am are a dimwit. Appearantly you don't know the difference between being critical and judgemental. I don't have to know you nor do I want to know you. I prefer people who are actually intelligent, have open mind and not so damn sensitive. The over sensitivity these days is nauseating. Do the world a favor and go back to your safe place. Good grief!!!

[@michaelmoran2059]

What in hell was that kid doing with the ladder?? Jesus Christ! Do they even get training? They didn't even use the flippin thing in the end! 🤨 I have yet to watch American Firefighters that even for one second knows what they are at!! Incredible!

[@blown503]

they was waiting for a pro like you to show up.

[@iamlotsafun]

Does everyone get a white helmet?? Just asking.

[@saintsman2010]

Looks like a few volunteer departments. Explains why there are a few chiefs on scene