Fisker Ocean - Water Pump Recall

[@mnemonyss]

I appreciate you. Not sure why some folks need to post negative comments, those of us with Oceans really value you. Thank you so much for your time and care in creating content that is extremely helpful.

[@MTNRanger]

Thanks for those kind words.

[@ragdogsME]

Don't know what we would do without you Matt! Keep them videos coming!

[@meisamsalahi2188]

Matt, Thank you so much. It would be great if you can open the pump and make a video of it please.

[@JMgiarritta]

Nice Job Matt,very informative. Let's hope Johnson electric will pick up the tab for Fisker.

[@joceppi85]

Great information, Matt! Thank you so much for your thoroughness!!! However, my favorite part of this video was your very cute and tired puppy rolling around at the end of the video 🤭🐶❤

[@MTNRanger]

Thanks for noticing!

[@jkywang2011]

Another crucial video. Thank you Matt.

[@mcsehst]

Thank you for sharing these videos and tips. I can’t imagine what most of us (ocean owners) will do without your helpful videos

[@stefanwalser2824]

thanx matt....had this problem in january.had my sport for just 2 weeks.was on the way to work on a swiss highway on sunday to monday night 0:30 am.all of a sudden no more heat from the vents and high voltage management failure message.no more power.just crawling.i did all the sleeps there are(on the emergency lane,minus 5 degrees C,pitch black night)....no reaction.after a new start power was back for a few seconds so i could get to the next offramp....after work started the ocean and all was fine again.a few hours later it happened again and fisker had to tow it in(600km)they said the waterpump was the problem....a few month later i was told that the supplier for the pump had to come up for the repairs.about 10 tsd euros....the whole lot.........

[@MTNRanger]

Thanks for your comment. Is it working fine now?

[@stefanwalser2824]

@@MTNRanger yes.no Probs since then......

[@esrandl]

Excellent review. Keep the info coming!

[@humbertopatch6545]

Nice job on the video! Much appreciated.

[@arturoreyes8406]

Great information. Thank you.

[@chealay7251]

Thanks so much for sharing

[@Lewykall]

Thanks for the information!

[@davidmerwin7763]

Thanks Matt. Great info. Let’s hope the bankruptcy judge forces Fisker to complete all the pump replacements.

[@Coolcatgrooves]

What should really happen is the judge should put all buybacks in the bankruptcy. This car is going to continue to bring problems for years to come. Mark my words. I said it a year ago, but the fanboy Facebook forums, which are moderated like HOA's, refuse to listen and even post my videos.

[@TheEVAddict]

Excellent video brother!

[@redstaper2414]

Thank you.

[@271830066]

Hi Matt... Thanks you for this needed FYI: I received my 2024 Ultra on December 30, 2024 and so far I have been blessed with no issues. Thanks God, but I am planning a out of state trip soon and I pray that I can return without any issues or I will have a very long Car Towing bill. I'm really not sure if I should drive it. What are your thoughts since there are very few cars that have been effected?

[@MTNRanger]

I have taken mine on multiple long distance trips since October. Personally, I'm driving my car normally. What version software do you have? I'm more concerned with a OTA update going wrong and messing up the 12V battery at this point.

[@271830066]

@@MTNRanger I am running version 2.0. I was going to take my mind out on a trip, but I'm afraid of the water pump going out being a long way from home.

[@matpat2636]

Any mechanic could do this, but it seems access to the FasT tool is critical for most repairs to the Ocean.

[@markhartman1475]

I think if you minimize the coolant loss during the swap and keep an eye on the tank to make sure it’s full, the system would self bleed as you drive the car. Or you could make a pigtail and figure out where the positive and negative is and run the pump manually.

[@JMgiarritta]

FYI, looked up Johnson electric, they show the pump on there site , with the part number you can check a distributor who may have it in stock. We need access to a parts catalog and manufacturer s Johnson manufacturers qu I te a few parts for Fisker

[@mzmz9355]

Hi, can you please share the specific link of the part?

[@BjarneLauritzBull-Berg]

I have had issues with «limp mode» several times this winter with my FOO which I took title to in Norway mid September (#2645) 2023. Somehow the limp mode “fixed itself” several times. Returning from a 10 day holiday it happened again in a highway tunnel, fortunately with little traffic, a scary experience indeed. Fisker service agreed to check and fix my vehicle two days later. I was due to book a rescue truck. However, after a day I could drive the car normally the 50 km down to the Fisker repair shop where they diagnosed that my “heat pump” was the culprit - a problem not unknown to Fisker - apparently a leak within the part causing the problem. They told me that vehicles produced early 2024 ha new heat pumps where the deficiency was resolved. They had no such new heat pumps available but took one from an older donor vehicle. From this replacement I have not had the limp mode reoccurring, however I understand this may happen again …

[@MTNRanger]

Thanks for the information. I was not aware of heat pump issues or the redesign.

[@DaveDarin]

Your videos are amazing. This was an excellent video on the issue, the part, the removal and install of the replacement. But I do share your concerns as the other remaining pumps seem like they could also be candidates for issues. I am a DIY guy but I have no lift and all EVs are super heavy so there is no way I would get under an Ocean for this work. I knew someone who bought a house in my neighborhood. 3 months later he was found dead under his collapsed car. I have done work under cars but always with multiple jack stands and even then I limit my time under. I have many many doubts that Fisker will be doing this as they have how many current employees, 130ish? And that was before the bankruptcy.I am not for bigger Government but there needs to be more regulation and verification of start ups in the future. Supposedly there was to be warranty money set aside per each Ocean sale and there was supposed to be a supply of replacement parts. Seems none of that was regulated and verified. This needs oversight. Always great videos from you. Cheers.

[@MTNRanger]

Even under jack stands, I don't think there is enough clearance. To get a reputable lift, you will have to spend thousands of dollars. Not something I plan to have anytime soon. With these instructions, any competent auto repair shop should be able to replace the pump. The key is getting the replacements.

[@arturoreyes8406]

I am an aviation avionics tech for many years and I own a fisker as well. I had a similar issue on an antenna circuit board that was exposed to the elements. The ( legal) fix was a simple coating of silicone directly on the transistors on the board. This would keep the moisture / water from making direct contact with the components on the board. I wonder if this could be possible solution to those who don't have access to a service shop to replace the pump.

[@MTNRanger]

It's definitely something to consider if the replacements don't arrive. As I mentioned in the video, I'll be taking a closer look at the four pumps I purchased (1000 miles on them).

[@irock195a]

Document in your video around 4:40 shows The starting and ending affected VIN Range - you didn't mention it. Might answer some questions for a few people if they're truly affected by this or not. Thanks for the info.

[@MTNRanger]

The VIN range covers all of the Oceans produced. It's probably just a requirement to show them. No Ocean has been manufactured after the 2/22/24 date of the fixed water pumps.

[@Ocean1_FSR]

Good Video.

[@MikeHornsby-j2t]

I am in the UK, the risk Johnson run if there is an accident and perhaps even a death attributable to this fault, which is now known, it could be disastrous for them both financially and perhaps criminally. Never mind the reputational damage!

[@mnemonyss]

Thanks!

[@MTNRanger]

Thank you very much!

[@Jaxav8or]

I would love to get a failed pump, remove/replace the failed resistor and see if a dead pump is brought back to life.

[@yash4093671]

Where can I go to get the water pump fixed/replaced. I am trying to call their dealerships but no one is answering the calls.

[@MTNRanger]

Well, the recall isn't supposed to start until August. We'll have to see what happens with the bankruptcy.

[@ragdogsME]

Btw matt, if the printed circuit board is accessable, can we not apply glue over R11 resistor and put it back together (Incase Fisker fails us again)

[@MTNRanger]

Yes, that's what I'm going to look into with my "spares".

[@ljames7724]

Any source we can buy the new pumps ourselves now???

[@MTNRanger]

Not at this point. Johnson Electric is the supplier. It will depend on them supplying the pumps.

[@mnemonyss]

Is it condensation getting in, or water in the connector causing it to short out?

[@MTNRanger]

I don't think there is confirmation whether it is either condensation or water getting through the o-ring.

[@humbertopatch6545]

Since I live in Deep South Texas, do you think they might send parts and I find a local mechanic who is willing to work on an EV?

[@MTNRanger]

Your guess is as good as mine. We don't know yet.

[@ericjansen9042]

Is there any way to see the pump via a borescope (without taking everything apart as mentioned in the .pdf) just to verify that we have the latest pump version? I just got mine from the dealership, so per federal law, it should have been replaced before they could sell it to me, but still.

[@MTNRanger]

Yes, you would have to have the car on a lift or at least ramps to access the area underneath. It is located on the right side before you get to the battery above the underpanel.

[@PeteLenz]

Why would any supplier build parts for a bankrupt company? And in such a limited quantity? Perhaps a company, like Gruber, would rebuild or source parts?

[@MTNRanger]

FOA is working with major parts suppliers on solutions. 10k vehicles is still a decent number to make sales on.

[@DMan-OceanOne]

Shame the extra pumps are faulty too; perhaps they can be replaced by Johnson since they’re part of the recall?

[@MTNRanger]

I'm researching fixing them myself since these are from a new car that was totaled.

[@dadsfave]

How does water get into the enclosed area where the circuit board is?

[@MTNRanger]

It is exposed to water since it is lower on the car body. There is a thin body panel, but plenty of water can intrude. Similar to many cars.

[@wizzyno1566]

​@@MTNRanger"similar to many cars"? No. This doesn't happen to other cars.

[@MTNRanger]

@@wizzyno1566 What I meant is that parts exposed to the underside can get wet and need to be suitably protected.

[@JosephBeltran-td5lu]

I'm buying a Ocean soon

[@aperitifs]

They would of delayed this recall notice till the company made sufficient pumps no doubt..

[@JoseMartinez-vl5zw]

it's "would have" and not "would of"

[@quivu4816]

Hello, does the fisker gonna contact me or I have to contact fisker for recall? Thankx

[@MTNRanger]

Fisker is required to send out recall notices. It looks like replacements are scheduled for August. But we will have to see how the bankruptcy proceedings affect that.

[@wizzyno1566]

Fisker aren't required to do anything when they are bankrupt. That's what bankrupt means.

[@MTNRanger]

@@wizzyno1566 Bankruptcy is a process, it's up to the courts to decide.

[@markhartman1475]

Take it apart please

[@OCEAN1Neelam]

Would anyone happen to know if they have gotten 2.1 update? As of today, I’m still in 2.0!!

[@TUNAQUEST]

Same here. I'm experiencing sudden loss of power everyday displaying a sign of battery failure. Not sure whether its the water pump or just the software.

[@cessysmith4149]

2.1 was supposed to be done. No idea how they do? How is this not a mandatory thing? No service tech to do the update. Or phone number to call.

[@MTNRanger]

As many others in the US, we are still waiting for 2.1. Most of Europe has already received it.

[@271830066]

QUESTION: To All - What is the cheapest Car Towing service out there If I get my car brick for over 500 miles back to my house?

[@MTNRanger]

It depends where you live. Towing is a local thing. But for trips, I would look into AAA.

[@120Loop]

@@MTNRanger Question, is it normal for my car to drip water after running my AC when I stop the car? If so does that mean I need to have water added tot car?

[@MTNRanger]

@@120Loop That's condensation and is normal.

[@120Loop]

@@MTNRanger Thanks Question: Since you have a Tesla EV and a Fisker Ocean like me. When you have your Tesla in your garage and charging or not does it get very Warm inside your Tesla compared to the Fisker Ocean. My Fisker seems to be very warm for some reason after charging overnight. Also, my Mirror fan is now coming on even though I have Software version 2.0. Also, does this warm inside true of all EV's like the RIVIAN, etc...

[@MTNRanger]

@@120Loop Lately, my garage is around 95F+, so it's hot in all three of my cars (even the ICE one). I can't say I have noticed anything additional from charging. I have heard the mirror fan was not fixed in 2.0. Maybe 2.1. BTW, my mirror fan is almost never on.

[@davedempster7658]

What is that constant humming on the audio?

[@MTNRanger]

I was running this on my PC and the microphone was getting interference. I'll be using a different mic for future videos.

[@andrewmarkwardt8776]

Who is paying to fix the recall issues?

[@cessysmith4149]

If you can get anyone to answer the hotline … please let me know. Not likely

[@MTNRanger]

The recalled part will be paid for by Johnson Electric. The installation and labor by Fisker.

[@cessysmith4149]

@@MTNRanger sounds great! I’m not “buying” it that there will be any Tech left to install however.

[@wizzyno1566]

​@@MTNRanger😂😂😂... Thats not going to happen. They are bankrupt.

[@MTNRanger]

@@wizzyno1566 The court can mandate money be spent on the recall before creditors get their cut.

[@DavidSpector]

too bad they went belly up anything fails and your screwed you can buy another for as low as 3.5k

[@MTNRanger]

You can't buy any for that price. That was a negotiated deal with the company that wishes to purchase the remaining inventory (including damaged vehicles). Using cars.com, the cheapest I have seen is $22610.

[@DavidSpector]

@@MTNRanger I hate it for you that no service or software updates. Hope the car lasts for a long time.

[@CAC2024USA]

Where is Sean ?

[@MTNRanger]

Sean is no longer an owner or wants to have anything to do with Fisker.

[@CAC2024USA]

@@MTNRanger they were not fair with him…

[@haseebahmed1915]

Hello a question should I buy it for $20k there’s one here in North Jersey they have FOE for $22k should I buy? Thanks

[@MTNRanger]

If you are okay with possibly not having parts/service and losing value, go right ahead. It's not for the weak hearted.

[@cessysmith4149]

No

[@SilvanoWilliams]

Truthfully, if at this time you still have questions about the car and the risks, then you should not buy it, especially used, since you won't know what other underlying issues that specific vehicle will have.

[@haseebahmed1915]

Thanks for the responses, I won’t buy it. Had a gut feeling but your responses gave me more clarity, thanks

[@tecno8335]

Fisker is wrong for this...they knew it wasnt ready thats why they only made so many

[@MTNRanger]

The water pump issue was 100% Johnson Electric's issue. There are plenty of other things to blame Fisker for.

[@tecno8335]

@@MTNRanger they knew. They absolutely knew nothing was ready. But they were greedy

[@MTNRanger]

@@tecno8335 Yes. And in additional, I think there was gross mismanagement, poor planning, large egos at the top of the company, and failure to take responsibility.

[@Famous5s]

Not an owner, but leapt into this horror story when these admittedly attractive new cars on matket for ~£20k. Even the optimist in me has lost faith in taking one of these on at a "bargain price". One thing not mentioned is that the Ocean's limp mode seems excessive. Limiting the vehicle to 20mph (33kmph) regardless of conditions, is cited as a risk, but not addressed. As you say, all 4 pumps realistically could be affected, so it seems odd only to focus on one. Is there any indication that this is a universal or shared component part - or has this just been saved for lucky Ocean drivers? Without wanting to patronise, I genuinely feel sorry for you guys.

[@MTNRanger]

@@Famous5s The four pumps have the same general design. But the one in the recall is known to have the manufacturing error, which is only affects 1-2% of cars. Honestly, I’m not worried about it. The good thing is that the recall pumps are now being distributed to service centers. So owners can start getting them replaced. Also, the existing pumps can be fixed by spraying a conformal coating on the printed circuit board. I plan to do a video on that eventually. As far as the limp mode as a reaction to detecting the fault goes, that’s so the car doesn’t damage the drivetrain or other systems.

[@Famous5s]

That's good to know, and that fixes are readily available. My point about limp mode, wasn't that there shouldn't be a limp mode, most moder cars do... and as a former Range Rover owner, I had to drive through it. I went jnto that eyes wide open, but it was not a fun experience. Anyway, having limp.mode engage when you're on a motorway (highway) isn't fun, but on the Range Rover it limited it to 50mph. I know of someone who had an early L322 that kept getting vertigo and went jnto downhill descent mode (think 20mph max)... but anyway, that Land Rover. Hopefully the Ocean will become.like the DeLorean and get cult status - owners definitely deserve it... but sound like whole hose of parts will need to be made available or reimagined and improved.

[@MTNRanger]

@@Famous5s Thanks, since there are at least 6000 owners, there are going to be service and parts solutions. FOA is working on that.

[@rmb1]

They Are Bankrupt these cars are worth nothing.

[@MTNRanger]

For the thousands of owners, the Oceans are worth something to them. Thanks for you comment.

[@mnemonyss]

I love my Ocean, and if I can get as much use out of it as I can, I'll be happy. Your comment has no value @rmb1

[@emikomina]

Get a Honda Prologue instead

[@MTNRanger]

None of the current EVs interest me. I love getting 340-350 miles when on trips driving my Ocean. Even with eveything going on, I'm keeping my Ocean and enjoying it every day.

[@emikomina]

@@MTNRanger your arrogance is exactly why you are in this position in the first place, just abandon the clearly sinking ship and hop onboard the Honda Prologue instead

[@MTNRanger]

@@emikomina If anything, the Prologue is the least interesting of the current EVs. I am looking forward to seeing the upcoming Rivian R2 when it comes out in a couple years. Until then, I'm doing just fine.

[@mnemonyss]

​@emikomina why are you being so dogmatic? Matt has a passion and he's helping other Ocean owners. Please be respectful and considerate of others.