Fitness For Jiu-Jitsu : Why Fatigue is making you bad at BJJ

Do you train BJJ when you are exhausted? Does your coach push you to fatigue in warm up so you roll tired? Even though there is something to be said for being able to push yourself to keep going when you are almost completely gassed out, practicing sloppy reps because you want to be fitter is only going to make your BJJ Skills worse. JT & Joey dissect this topic and look at it from a few different angles. "Training Tired is training Stupid" If you are early in the Jiu-Jitsu journey you need to put a premium on what helps you learn - physical fatigue won't help. Mental toughness is a key part of rolling and improving at BJJ but trying to practice skills can make your game dumb but tough. If you are someone who likes to go hard on and off the mat this is a good episode for you.
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[@DSVN23]

Fatigue is a disaster. When you know what to do but haven’t the energy to do it, and when you lose to someone based off gas tank it’s heartbreaking

[@webdeveloperninja9220]

Best podcast for grapplers

[@ModernPracticalStonemason]

100%

[@tamamalosi]

Running round the gym, star jumps, shrimps suck. Do your own conditioning off the mats. Build your gas tank in rolls.

[@richardhall4657]

I’ve trained at both styles of gyms. The no warm up at all and straight into technique and the 1/3 of the class is shrimps and break falls. And I can say without a shadow of a doubt I’ve learned more in the 8 weeks I’ve trained at the no warm up gym than the 8 months at the shrimping gym

[@Bradley9967]

I like my new coach. He says before class "warm yourselves up"

[@isthatjake]

This is so real. Once I reach a certain level of tired I can tell that I'm just not really using my brain anymore. That can be fun if I'm playing video games or something, but I don't want to play a game with stakes if I don't have a full deck of cards.

[@EricGarcia-q6p]

Great pod, I learned this the hard way. Last year I had so many injuries and I had to look at what I was doing wrong at the end I came to the sleep deprivation = probability of injury goes up. Now I don't go to class if I had less than X hours of sleep and it's helped tremendously.

[@tededo]

51 grizzled seasoned grappler here. I've been in grappling for at least a decade. I want to nuance you guys words a bit, cause I don't think what you said applies to all grappling students. Most students with whom I roll, from white to brown, gaz out with me. If I'm in shape at the very beginning of a class, their exhaustion is worst. So I usually have to tire myself for the first rounds of rolling, to feel a bit fatigued. And guess what ? Even under fatigues, many of em roll with me and desperately need an entire round of full rest, while I keep rolling. Another aspect not mentioned in the podcast, is : there are techniques and moves that are suited for fatigue or better applicable when exhausted. For example: when I'm really tire, I can still do torreando guard passing like a brand new athlete. A couple of moves are possible even under intense fatigue, keep in mind, the brain, the mind that has been drilled to perform under fatigue will go on autopilot and do what it was trained to do often. For instance, I must have drilled the top mount defense hip bump escape and sweep hundred of times, so that, even exhausted, my brain switches to autopilot and I allow him to top mount me, then flip him down, not sweat. Definitly enjoy your podcast.

[@RAPEDBYBLACKS]

Ok but you’re a high level of experience guy, so this doesn’t apply to you at all. The discussion is about people learning a new skill and as a beginner I agree that I am often too exhausted after the warmup to properly apply the techniques.

[@sandsand5483]

Oh man... One of the times that i quit jiujitsu was because of how our club did warmups. We would get flogged during warmups to the point that i could barely understand technique being demonstrated, let alone be able to actually keep track of the body movements that i need to actually execute them. It would ruin my ability to peocess what i was seeing.

[@Vendral88]

I think of this mind set for BJJ has like when body builders get a new PR with weights. No body builder tries to get a new PR every day. But once a week or month or whatever you try to push yourself get that new PR or in BJJ you last longer do a 10 minute round or whatever. If you go to BJJ every for 1 hour then maybe once a week go twice a day, 2 classes or go to open mat on the weekends when you normally do nothing. You need to listen to your body there is a difference between pushing yourself and, getting better and killing yourself (with injuries). knowing the difference of when to push your muscles to the max to get that escape or go with the flow and use technique.

[@user-uc9fx4ru7p]

New white belt only few months in . The school am in has been really supportive. And encouraging. Have seen both sides of this. One Coach does an old school warm up of running many laps , push ups , sit ups, shrimping, sprawls,jumping jacks then more running for 15-25 min. An had other class where people warm up on there own and Coach goes straight into drills. Guessing it should be somewhere in middle . 10-15 min warm up starting with running.. And great podcast.thanks

[@lukepowers9472]

All that stuff is a waste of time

[@701garage]

We always did conditioning after the training so your tired now you have to dig deep to keep going. We did do a 20 min jog and stretching then wrestle then 30 minutes of doing lifts that transle to a move or sometime of hard conditioning

[@nahhmate9103]

going to hit that meat pies and Doritos combo, stat! 😅

[@x-Musashi-x]

Ahhh the old throw a bunch of eggs at the wall till you find the one that doesn’t break conditioning style approach to sports 😂

[@Nickmorris86]

What about drilling fresh and saving fatigue for sparring occasionally

[@rodsic1]

How do you manage your when you are a coach teaching 4 classes 5 days a week, when AND how much fitness training would be good to add mucle mass AND get strong and avoid injuries ?, also how do you manage to increase your knowledge AND skill?

[@sergiomartinez5946]

Ryron and Rener

[@BPchadlite]

DID THIS MF GIVE HIMSELF FROSTED TIPS!??!?!?!?!?!?!?

[@sirpibble]

It is in the rules theres a mandatory minimum rest period between matches Guys going hard in the gym with just 1 minute in betwee to get their lips went and find a new partner are pushing cardio in a way that will never ever ever ever come up in this sport If youre training tournemnt rounds its 1 round on 1 round off Use that off round to learn recovery techniques

[@ModernPracticalStonemason]

Jenna who? 😏

[@Jdac333]

Exaclty. In a comp, the gas tank can be blown to the max in 1 match! 5-10 mins. Intense. That’s says it all. No need for these long drawn out bullshit exercise and warm ups, that detract from technical ability. Also, 1 min rest rounds are bullshit for rounds varying from 5-10 mins when in a comp you get at least an equal time to recover. 2-3 mins at least. At least

[@rickywoods3101]

I have issues training fatigued because it's hard to find someone every time at my home gym. I wish we set a 6 min time and then switch every time but we don't do that at my home gym.

[@Jdac333]

@@rickywoods3101why not? Does everyone just spar when they Feel like it, for however long they like?(I’ve seen this before)

[@rickywoods3101]

@@Jdac333 well I think every class should set a timer and make people switch. When you don't do that you get the same people sparring with the same people every time and keep them from learning.