Fitting a new three phase panel - (and a bit of steel trunking) | Thomas Nagy

Carrying on at a school installing a new Eaton three phase panel.
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[@dazzafat]

STILL the original and best electrician channel on KZbin. Good work Tom

[@mtrim550]

You sir do a quality job! Love how no corners are cut despite under quoting and losing money. Anyone else would of slapped it all in and wouldn’t of cared. Great work mate!

[@thomasnagy]

evenin son! How is Australia this morning?

[@mtrim550]

Up to shit! Pissing with rain.. freezing cold. Not used to this bloody weather ;) How’s things over there legend?

[@taska2510]

Couldn’t agree more with this comment

[@michal2788]

2:40 Some contractors at my school were cutting stuff up inside and they made 2.5k ish people evacuate. Love it

[@narkeddiver7325]

You’re saying CONTRACTOR wrong ;)

[@TOMHARTOE]

I’m a 4th year apprentice and the amount I have learnt from watching your videos mate is priceless! Shines a real light on some of the dodgy stuff that goes on around me haha. Keep up the good work!

[@jamesoconnor2417]

Tom Hart same here bud 🤛👍

[@simonharding1572]

been a while nagy! welcome back

[@berry120]

You're a rare breed. I'm sure there's many tradesmen out there who'd do an unsafe bodge job if they'd eyeballed it low, just to make sure they were quids in. In fairness, there's also many who would take the time to make sure it was safe & compliant if they'd eyeballed it low, but that'd be it. However, to take the time, hassle & cost of fitting a brand new board (even when you could have got away with filling the other one up) to make sure you're doing the best job possible, even when you lowballed the estimate?! Hats off to you sir.

[@stgp16]

Hi Tom I'm sure that in this case the kitchen doesnt switch all their equipment on at once but it's always worth considering what load could be applied in one go. Right call to put in the DB. Will make future maintenance much easier (as you said). Also makes your job (or anybody else in the future) with fault finding. Stealing ways off a variety of boards can make future work much more time consuming. Also right thing to do as the school will trust you to do a good job and you will get repeat work which will pay for the DB many times over without ripping them off. In my experience people who give out this work want an easy life and if you can be part of their inner circle you will do well

[@alexanderbuckland]

If you watch the previous video it's a kitchen classroom so definitely will have all circuits powered together most of the time. Definitely the right call with a new board.

[@stgp16]

@@alexanderbuckland ah I havent seen that

[@AnimosityGamers]

Im a Red seal electrician in Canada. Love your videos to learn how you guys do it across the pond. One thing I have noticed is you guys have so much more safety regarding electricity. Id say if I asked 20 Canadian electricians if they have ever used a megger before 15 of them wouldn't have.

[@fuckenoathcunt4230]

Not just regs, I'm in Level 2 Elec in College and every single circuit I build has to be tested. It's what's drilled into us

[@dogwalker666]

Paxolin is a trade name it is actually SRBP synthetic resin bonded paper it's what all old PCB,s were made from a lot are fibre glass but not all. I always use a hole saw on paxo never a spade bit.

[@hassasinali7979]

Agreed, I'd have never used a flat bit

[@enriquedmu1]

Finally. Save this for later. Tom and david savery are like my new game of thrones. 😂

[@nuttytechy]

Don't forget to have a drink while watching Savery and have the occasional rant too lol

[@peterpain6625]

As long as his jobs don't end like GoT we'll be fine ;)

[@enriquedmu1]

@@nuttytechy I always have an IPA or whiskey for a savery video.

[@enriquedmu1]

@@peterpain6625 I didnt mind the end of GOT to be honest.

[@ARElectrics]

Hi Tom, great video. Thanks for sharing. When we do quotes we always include a 10% budget for contingency. That way the customer knows what they're paying but also what your asking them to put aside if there was anything that was brought to your attention during the work that couldnt had been seen at the time of quoting. Hope that helps

[@Bin216]

That “Paxton power supply” is a whole door controller kit, it just needs some sort of lock and 1 or 2 card readers attached to finish it off. The power supply is the white unit on the right inside, and can take a 12v sealed battery in the bottom of the unit in case of power failure, the yellow board which is rattling around the box is the actual controller itself, and it looks to be a Net2 Plus. The units can be daisy chained together with RS485 (4 wire serial bus) if you have several close together. Before the Plus was the “Net2 Classic” (presumably retrospectively renamed when the Plus came out) which didn’t have the Ethernet and just used the serial bus. You can still just build a system with just the serial bus and a USB to RS485 adapter (back in the day it would have been a RS232 to RS485 adapter. The units hold all the information about which cards are valid and when so it’s no problem if they are isolated for a while (you just don’t see which card went through the door), in fact when one of our doors was offline, we didn’t notice until some new staff complained they couldn’t get through the door... They also do a video door entry system (Net2 Entry) which uses the same door controllers, but has a video bits which operates independently apart from signalling the door controller about all the events (ring, video viewed, door opened while viewed, etc), and to open the door (you have to use a separate tool to configure which doors talk to which handsets, but you only need do that once).

[@benfosterdev]

I kind of ceased up when he picked the enclosure up only to see that the control board wasn't screwed down when he did it

[@stevebrown1974]

We have Paxton stuff at my work and being in charge of IT I'm in charge of the Net2 software, issuing new fobs, setting door access, time zones etc. We have the very basic system (pre ethernet) and it requires the PC connected to the system to enable unlocking of all doors when the fire alarm is triggered. A few years ago it was pointed out that if the PC was off/disconnected at the time of a fire alarm trigger, the doors wouldn't release - so we hastily had green break glass boxes fitted to break the power to the electromagnets! But I agree, it's a great system and very, very reliable.

[@angusnicol7221]

You can interface them to intruder alarm systems too so that authorised users can unset the alarm zone at the same time... Also replace the card reader on an entry system with an ANPR camera amd you can do vehicle entry gates with them

[@matthewmcmullan9669]

@@stevebrown1974 your supposed to have break glasses on the exiting side of each door incase of emergency. On the fire alarm side you would normally have a fire relay that breaks the lock circuit but getting the fire guys in is expensive and not always easy to juggle with access control guys so the easiest way and cheaper way is to do the fire over network like how yours is set up where only one board has an input from the fire wich then tells the rest to drop the lock

[@charliedobbie8916]

@@stevebrown1974 I think we have very similar systems - mine's still running on XP, how about yours? :-)

[@uplightuk8924]

I’m a 3rd year apprentice who has just finished college and a lot of the stuff you talk about in this video is new to me, I have a lot to learn...

[@coastalconnections2507]

The quoting game. Live by the sword die by the sword makes life more fun. Great video. 👌🏻

[@ondedouble]

As an apprentice in Ireland, the only complaint I have and it’s a compliment, would love more videos more frequently 🤣

[@PaulGrosvenor1]

Great video. I'd be interested to see a follow up on the 4A earth leakage.

[@JBE]

I’ve had a Tom Nagy haircut and I’m keeping it. Thank goodness for COVID allowing you an entire school to yourself while working and testing.

[@altinbasha9511]

Tom You are a Honest & great guy helping a lot of people with your knowledge and your experience not a lot of Sparkys speak about technical issues and safety, And specially the pricing,Love the videos,thank you

[@thomasnagy]

appreciate it pal ;-)

[@peaceonearth9550]

It’s always interesting to watch your videos. Your subscriber from USA

[@NL2500]

So they are going to learn to cook here ... leave the glove hanging, will save a lot of false alarms.😂

[@dragade101]

Possible that the school could increase the delay for the specific classroom; so they have more time to deal with the 'fire' that they created.

[@samosa434]

They are learning to cook upstairs that room was an art room

[@Ivorbiggin]

Sam Osa Cooking / Art ......some say it’s same thing

[@TheChipmunk2008]

@Marc Leslie Reminds me of when I was a trainee in the 80s, the maintenance dept (where I worked) had a new alarm system fitted ... they fitted an ionization smoke alarm in the plumbers' shop LMAO. Welding takes place in there... Took about 30 false alarms till we decided to change the damn head ourselves without a work order.

[@jangoofy]

The combination of warning regarding profanity and the signs over the door at 03:30 is lovely :-)

[@KnugenMooMoo]

Them fold up work bench is a god sent i picked one up a few months ago love it plus dont take much room up to

[@eirebiker4275]

Refreshing to see a sparks who actually has pride in what he does. I'm out of the game a good few years, pricing just got ridiculous and the quality suffered. Your videos remind me of being back on the tools, I became a medical technician/physicist and don't really miss the sparking. Best of luck 👍

[@caustin6554]

Paxton systems are really easy to install love working with them

[@holdfast7657]

Another great job. I hope whoever gives out this schools contracts sees this content. I see not many electricians are commentating about how much they would have priced this job. I love the idea that it helps to get some realism to pricing, also would be interesting on this job to see a breakdown of what it cost you and how much you end up making per day. Glad I'm not involved with pricing and dealing with customers anymore.

[@jamesosborne754]

You can buy a 20 mm ( + other sizes ) drill bit - , with a reduced size shank that it will fit into your Battery Drill - a Spade Bit will wear out quickly because of the amount of friction created by the hard material. I find that a nice sharp 20 mm bit will go through Paxolin easily 👍🏻

[@TYLERCONSTRUCTION]

Good morning Thomas, love the video as per usual. Keep up the good work. Cheers 👍👍

[@jeffmoss26]

Fascinating to see how work is done in the UK!

[@RaithUK]

Glad to see your back Tom, cheers for the video. Helpful content as always :)

[@MartiA1973]

One of your best, cheers Tom.

[@stewartmaclachlan]

Thank you for this upload, Tom. As always, I really enjoyed it. I do admire and appreciate your ability to do a very time consuming job AND find the time to produce and publish videos. It must be very difficult I imagine. Keep up the good work!

[@Ghbarl]

Thanks for the honesty on pricing. Appreciate it takes a lot to say you fcuked up on it, but it’s a valuable lesson for us all. Great to see you are still going with the right solution though, even though you know there’s a cheaper alternative that isn’t as good. 👍🏻

[@graemescott990]

One thing to watch Tom. When you get a situation like 4A flowing into the "Earth bar" be careful not to touch other metal. The reason I say that is that the chances are that "Earth bar" will have some resistance with respect to the real earth and if the other piece of metal that you touch has a lower resistance to the real earth you will get a belt!! Don't ask me how I know :-)

[@persona250]

Its a possibility on a TT earthing system but on a TN thats not going to happen .

[@peterpain6625]

My hands are already tingling with exitement to find out ;)

[@muzikman2008]

Ohms law is a beautiful thang 😉

[@bradreee7290]

As an American sparky I love watching UK stuff everything is so different it's honestly like trying to learn a different language.

[@juddbrady1825]

Ow Tom thank goodness it’s not just me having a nervous breakdown everyday at work because everything goes f king wrong. 😁👍

[@thomasnagy]

not just you pal; I have those days too ;-)

[@jakeg12345]

At least you dont have them with the customer there on site watching everything go to shit lol. That is the fucking pits.

[@GreenHawkConstructionltd]

Sometimes you just have one of those days. We all have them you definitely did the best thing by leaving it for that day and come back to it. It’s not worth dying for 👍.

[@mclovin14141]

Paxton is by far the best door entry company on the market. Hardly ever have to return their gear and if you do their returns policy is amazing.

[@tyhuffman5447]

Good video and commentary as always. I think you are correct about the time, 5 or 6 days, I would charge $60 per hour ($45 for labor and $15 for cost of labor or burden) for labor. I have no idea about parts cost because I'm not familiar enough with that specific equipment, a rule of thumb would yield 0.66:1 ratio (or 60/40) of equipment to labor yields 40hrs x $60 = $2,400 at 60/40 that's $6,000 for the total cost. There's people that have wrote books about labor to parts ratio of various jobs. Like I said I that's the best I can do with my limited knowledge of specifics on the parts required. I only become an expert AFTER I watch your videos. lol!! Keep up the great work work Tom.

[@alexf9837]

Great video as always Tom! Keep up the good work and advice much appreciated!

[@highlanderchris68]

I re sharpen the spade bits on the grinder, works every time

[@shaynemacdonald3051]

Nice video mate.

[@thomasnagy]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@texasproud3332]

Ahhh! My favorite extras here is where you make back you under bid 😀

[@Thats_Mr_Random_Person_to_you]

Genuinely interested by what was causing the large earth leakage.

[@thomasnagy]

I think its actually just all the computers that are plugged in causing the leakage. 2 or 3 ma per PC, multiply that by 50 then add on projectors etc. Not enough to trip an RCD but added up over the whole board its possible i guess..

[@mrjonnyjones]

thomas nagy Sort of like a parasitic drain in a car?

[@jeales895]

@@thomasnagy Why do computers leak so much to earth?

[@zyspan]

@@jeales895 Chinese PSUs

[@peterpain6625]

@@jeales895 Bad powesupplies maybe? Just checked mine ... No leakage.

[@Rainbowhockey]

Thomas Sir. The difference calling a router a router is that whilst a router routes, a router routes. It's quite easy when you think about it 🤣

[@lwilton]

One is used by an IT tech and the other by a plumber.

[@Tommyinoz1971]

It has a third meaning in Australia. It's very naughty, so we are not going to talk about it here.

[@Ivorbiggin]

Thomas McBurney Lol 😂

[@James_Bowie]

I get my kicks on Route 66.

[@barrieshepherd7694]

@@Tommyinoz1971 From my experience in Australia the UK pronunciation is the primary meaning "The 'rooter' took a direct route to get to his 'root' :-

[@xylo66]

Great one. Love the smell of cut paxolin !

[@callumBee]

A fire marshal/ wardens head just exploded. 🤣

[@scottsparky1]

Use a hole saw it cuts straigh through and for that board you need a 40mm

[@LawrenceSingha]

excellent videos and like the details you put into your work & videos

[@thomasnagy]

Thank you very much!

[@Dave-ne8sp]

You estimate 5 days to do all that? I could agree if you had help. As far as price I would be thinking$4-6k(US), unsure of materials needed/pricing. Does the panel with leakage have a ground connected to the water piping? Is it possible there is a ground loop in that panel that is picking up leakage?

[@trainsinkansas576]

Semi retired electrician I understand what you always say and I live in Meriden, Kansas. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Good video

[@thomasnagy]

For some reason i always google the place when people say where they are from. Central America; on my list of places to go!

[@kallumnorman9825]

Should have used the Eaton MEM cable trunking interface kit saves so much time and blades cutting Paxolin

[@scottsparky1]

That trunking looks like lighting trunk with a clip on lid facing down. If so you need busy assembly kits no drilling required

[@enriquedmu1]

I fucked up a price a few weeks ago. Gave an estimate, then thought about it further and actually changed my mind as i thought i over estimated the job. Ended up i was alot closer with my first one, had to give a discount in the end. Way it goes sometimes.

[@hasanucar5456]

Love the channel.

[@paulmorrey733]

Thanks Tom

[@mr.neqtan]

5 days seems like a fair bid. Now to try and get it done in 3!

[@tresslerj1985]

5:26 I use lawnmower blade sharpener drill attachment do hickey. 10 seconds like new again.

[@ryantaylor6335]

I've always used a bench grinder or even an angle grinder in a pinch. Never thought of the lawnmower blade sharpener, I must give it a go 👍

[@koffibanan3099]

I would be really interested in where that leakage comes from. I mean 4 amps, that's pissing away almost a kilowatt? Also I don't understand where this could be coming from, aren't all circuits rcd protected? Or are there like 10+ 300mA RCD's that are all at their trip limit, together providing this current? Thanks for the video!

[@benfosterdev]

The general consensus is that there's not enough there to trip but combined over multiple circuits it totals up to, as you said, about a kilo.

[@mrgfromoxford8644]

OMG I’m so glad you started to say CONTACTOR correctly, it was properly doing my head in .

[@firewoodwarrior4396]

the scenes of you cutting with an angle grinder and jigsaw is like a soft porn :O

[@MrKombiman]

Very Scott Brown Carpentry!

[@muzikman2008]

Those slo-mo sparks off the grinder... Phwarrrr 😂

[@muskrat645]

@@justinepaula-robilliard Never, jigsaw puzzles are cut using a fret saw.

[@adamjones2025]

Firewood Warrior, Yeah not wrong lol

[@jasonantigua6825]

Muskrat 1963 CNC!!!

[@casperme6552]

Use a cutter on the paxolin. Mark your centre holes and then put a 38mm cutter through the paxolin and a 50mm through the trunking/fusebord. Grommet strip is crap, use a Bush, or use paxolin to fabricate a safe entry.

[@mikeenglish1492]

Starratt hole saws for the paxalin Tom

[@theshaddowaust]

Many moons ago my teacher kept complaining on the way I said things, it got so bad that she wanted me out of the class so the principal got involved, sitting in his office I said one line "I am fn Australian and speak it so teach us Australian" omg the look on there faces and when my mother for them the same it put them in there place (mum was head to the PTA). Last month I was told when I ordered a part that it was there was no such part but when the person actually looked it up he found it what was calling it was it's Australian name not now USA name. So now getting to the point. Stiff fn shit on how someone say a thing as long as they know what they are talking about. There is many ways to say something depending on what version of English you speak and region and the way this man says things is his way, if you don't like it then stiff. Well that's my 2c worth. Keep up with the great videos.

[@jurassicsparks5220]

You Aussies are the worst for correcting others on their English. With screwed up faces “What?”

[@adamjones2025]

Saying snow flakes switch off now, I lost it I think you need a shirt with that title.

[@roystongriffiths870]

Good vid, really enjoy watching

[@mateuszekdiil5911]

Nagy good to watch your videos, you’re a fuckin legend

[@billwoolston6716]

Use a powder free latex glove, used a powder one a few years ago and the whole building was evacuated

[@thomasnagy]

hadn't thought of that. I cant remember if these were powdered or not. i think they possibly were from memory.

[@martincase7515]

@@thomasnagy As an operating theatre Nurse for the last 25 years I can safely say that powdered gloves won't be found in a hospital. The powder, it's only talc, was found to cause too many side effect for patients and staff. They come from the days of reusable latex gloves. So medical gloves should be fine, especially the nitrile ones.

[@lorenzo52877]

Let`s play a game, every time he says "Trunking" you take a shot.

[@Burnie1601]

Hell no! I dont want to die.

[@sparx2391]

If you forget to take the glove off, just blame it on the kids. 😂

[@flyboy7584]

Use holecutter when cutting paxoline.

[@DanSeaber-Shinn]

Completely agree about pricing, it’s so shit 😂 I’ve put our prices are on our website now - At least people know them before they call me now! It seems to rub so many electricians up the wrong way though! 😂

[@matthewdale956]

That’s because they don’t like to admit they are ripping people off so are scared to discuss,decent sparkies are more upfront about it

[@TYLERCONSTRUCTION]

The extra work, £1200. As you said, you have got to mess around with the light fittings and make them work. See you Friday Thomas.

[@TheChipmunk2008]

I was taught 'contact-er' but you're right it doesn't matter provided you know what the person's on about :P No idea of pricing for that as we do mostly domestic, but we do 400 a day for 2 of us (200 each) plus materials.

[@TheChipmunk2008]

That's south coast, London's gonna be higher, way oop north is gonna be a bit lower maybe, but it's all evening out

[@ElectroSwingable]

Nice one

[@Hiccup77]

No dis Tom, but I believe that borad (while it can) is not really designed to hang individual circuits off. We use these boards when we put in sub distribution circuits. Seems like a bit of a faf you got there. Personally I would have made a control panel with everything built in. If you wanted to go while hog, use a Schneider acti9 board and you can remote monitor the system. None-the-less a very tidy job coming along there.

[@matthewmcmullan9669]

Don't go throwing flat bits away just sharpen them back up with a file 👍

[@lewistempleman9752]

What's the benefit of using paxolin between the board and trunking?

[@thomasnagy]

Just helps to stop the tails getting damaged etc

[@jamesdavies3419]

Try a 20mm hole saw last much longer. Keep Up the good work😀

[@Hiccup77]

Hole saws are a pikey tool. A proper spark would use a punch out tool.

[@jamesdavies3419]

Don’t they only work on sheet metal?

[@taylorpainter127]

Been too long 👏👏

[@tresslerj1985]

18:08 I would allow 1.5 weeks. Are you supplying fittings nd PSU? If so about 8k if not 4k.

[@RWATraineeElectrician]

Thanks for the video 👍

[@michaelcostello6991]

Good video. Please show all the little details for us learners. For example the breaker did not fit but it would be nice to see exactly why. Also it would be nice to know possible reasons for large earth leakages rather than just telling us the amps.

[@fireblaster9961]

Oooow that sound of that rattle can

[@Hayfic]

Might be worth considering putting a suitably ip rated vent or fan in that contactor enclosure it will increase the lifespan tenfold 👍👍😀

[@metallitech]

That looks like such a wishy-washy & PC school

[@kierenhudson6331]

Do you have a video on how to supply and connect a grid switch with 8X 20amp switches plus emergency lighting. How many supply cables would I need etc. Would the supply cables run through a contactor then a RCBO? Help please. I do domestic. First time commercial 🤞👍

[@millycarrington]

4 Amps leakage doesn't mean it will pass 4 Amps through your body if you were to disconnect it. What would happen is the earth rail potential would rise to the supply voltage and then you would get a 'normal' electric shock. The current could be dependant upon the actual voltage and your body resistance to ground. Would also mean that some other appliance earths may rise in voltage but I'm sure you are aware of that already.

[@girtsziverts3530]

Seeing electrician dealing with switchgear make me smile.

[@democracyforall]

You could have used a hand electric saw with steal blades in it, that one does a good job and no sparks as well. Angle grinder is for something much more hard I guess. I have seen people cutting trays with such heavey tools , the trays can be cut with jig saw as well as a small electric saw but honestly I have seen people using angle grinder on it too.

[@tc_electrician5329]

Have you tried re sharping the spade bits, I use to do that all the time with a file you can re sharpen them 👍🏻

[@thomasnagy]

Actually no; But i will give it a try and report back

[@tc_electrician5329]

thomas nagy when I was an apprentice and had no money you always find a way 😂

[@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ]

I usually do them on the angle grinder.

[@Raysnature]

Yep, we were made to do this when I was an apprentice, twist drills too. Our instructor would take something like an 8 or 10mm hss bit, grind it flat and say 'over to you boys, drill me a hole with it'.

[@andljoy]

@@thomasnagy Try forstner bits. I am not a fan of them janky arse spade bits .

[@Felipe2077tv]

Just an FYI at 12:30, if you did disconnect that 4a line from the earth bar, 4A would not flow through you, because your skin is not very conductive. If there's a 250v different in potential between the line and ground, your skin would have to be 62ohms to pass 4A, but your skin is definitely not 62ohm dry. At most, you'd pass a couple milliamps, because skin's resistance is on the order of megaohms, when dry.

[@josh7339]

on the money, i would like to know my own resistance between entry and exit with various situations, but i dont want to throw 250-500v between my hand and foot ^^

[@Monkeh616]

And the voltage required to get 4A to flow through those conductors is not exactly much - so what's driving 4A, an actual fault, leakage, or just some stray potential between multiple huge pieces of conductive material stuck in the ground? There's a good chance there's really nothing happening but physics at work.

[@bigg7207]

Or use a jigsaw on trunking and holesaws work on the smelly stuff 👍😎

[@xXBuckOFiveXx]

I charge $85(£66.76) an hour for service work here in the states. Labor rate for bid pricing varies between $100(£78.56) to $150(£117.87) an hour.

[@TheChipmunk2008]

Yeah, we sometimes screw up on pricing. Like you say, live and learn. Colleague has a habit of not realizing that data/aerial stuff costs money... Splitters and an amplifier can eat into the profits. He seems to think you can just tee into aerial cables. LOL And cat 6 isn't cheap

[@tonywalters5396]

7.5k if supplying kit or 4.7k labour.

[@cloud4344]

why do you need a 250a main switch the header under the trunking is only 100a

[@tomorichard]

👍

[@peterrobinson850]

Hi Tom, Enjoyed enormously your video's. I did comment on your last video about the Earth leakage, I know I'm an old spark who left the trade in 1969 but still try to keep up with the latest. I still think it could still be an unbalanced system giving rise to high neutral current and using the parallel paths as a return because of high impedance neutral, that could be caused by duff joint or harmonics from the switch mode computer supplies, but I doubt if it was the cause of the leakage, your High quality clamp meters as yours obviously is have an harmonic filter so you only read the true 50Hz I would estimate it would only be 15-20mA for about 40 computers so wouldn't amount to anywhere near the measured leakage you have. If possible try turning off each supply at a time with the clamp meter connected to see where the origin of the leaked is from. Not tell you your job you are 100 times a better spark than I was, but just intellectual curiosity.

[@tomorichard]

Peter Robinson you are bang on sir.

[@colinsmith9131]

How is the Paxton system being integrated on with the contactors, I thought Paxton was a Access Control System, Swipe card brings in the contactors from a set of Aux contacts in the Paxton panel??? But then won’t it time out like when you swipe through a door, please explain Tom I love the integration between security control panels and electrical installations

[@Danechip]

Router is a funny one, I use both. A Rewter for my IT stuff, A Rowter for cutting wood. What gives?

[@marksimpson3035]

Good going Thomas 😊 Get ya superman t shirt on 🙋🏼‍♂️

[@AintBigAintClever]

I wonder how many of those damned PaxLocks have had to be replaced. I think all of our PaxLocks in work had a mechanical failure. Maglock connected to a Net2 box and reader are much more reliable, plus they can be remotely accessed, released in the event of a fire (which PaxLocks will sleep through), etc.