Five Incredible Treasures That Were Found Recently

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@cas4040
@cas4040 2 жыл бұрын
I live on the Treasure Coast of Florida and one of my friends is a professional treasure diver. Every time a tropical storm or hurricane comes through, so many new discovers are uncovered. It’s pretty damn cool.
@kirdot2011
@kirdot2011 2 жыл бұрын
not so cool if you never manage to sell any of that so called treasure
@decker528
@decker528 2 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to go to the beach after a hurricane and look for coins but I never have the right combination of time off work and money to get down there
@chawnadams9648
@chawnadams9648 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Jacksonville and always wondered if pirates or the Spanish ever cam up the St. John's and buried treasure around Jacksonville/ St. Augustine area. I've had the treasure seeking bug after living in the Florida keys for 20 years and searching for shipwrecks. I actually went out and searched/ marked submerged or derelict vessels after hurricane Irma. I'm in the process of getting my non profit ocean cleanup and conservation group up and running and if I find artifacts or treasure in the process that would be cool.
@decker528
@decker528 2 жыл бұрын
@@chawnadams9648 right around Jacksonville is where all those Spanish treasure galleons sank
@titmusspaultpaul5
@titmusspaultpaul5 2 жыл бұрын
Who gets to keep the treasure? Do the government claim it and give a finders fee or do they take the whole lot.... or do the people that find the treasure get to keep it all? If you have any answers to these questions it would be much appreciated..... cheers.
@martinstallard2742
@martinstallard2742 2 жыл бұрын
0:27 ancient Roman silver 2:34 biblical purple dye 5:18 Captain Every's treasure 7:18 ancient Roman gold 9:32:San José galleon
@KirtFitzpatrick
@KirtFitzpatrick 2 жыл бұрын
Simon should give you a login already so you can add timestamps to the videos directly.
@williambrown8374
@williambrown8374 2 жыл бұрын
God among men, sir.
@alphagt62
@alphagt62 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect that many old treasuries that are found go unreported. If I found a ton of gold, I wouldn’t tell a soul! Just for the government to confiscate it, or tax the crap out of it. Too many stories of such treasures lost to crooked governments, or some insurance claim that returns it to the owner who lost it 600 years ago.
@Bambisgf77
@Bambisgf77 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Striker9
@Striker9 2 жыл бұрын
Legit need a system to give awards on KZbin for amazing comments. Thank you kindly!
@robertwalker-smith2739
@robertwalker-smith2739 2 жыл бұрын
The purple dye was one of the things that made the Phoenician city of Tyre wealthy. A contemporary account comments that the price of that wealth was having to breathe the air. All those dead snails in the hot sun. . .
@damnits2200
@damnits2200 2 жыл бұрын
It’s called Tekhelet. Some tzitzis have them
@SeauxNOLALady
@SeauxNOLALady Жыл бұрын
Ew. I never considered this consequence of the textile industry of ancient times… Though I can’t imagine the smell that rotting snails would have… I’m sure it was incredibly unpleasant. Especially if the necessary amount of snails needed was in the hundreds of thousands…yuk.
@MegaKat
@MegaKat Жыл бұрын
​@@SeauxNOLALadyit smelled so bad that women were permitted to divorce their husbands if their husband became dyers after they wed.
@Liquid278
@Liquid278 2 жыл бұрын
The ancient roman silver in my opinion is someones rainy day stash but they either died or were taken before they could get it back
@foomanchoo5409
@foomanchoo5409 2 жыл бұрын
Simon, everyone loves a good treasure story. Good on ya.
@andybrooke1961
@andybrooke1961 2 жыл бұрын
As you describe the making of the purple die, all I could think was how somebody figured all that out!
@AngusKhan21
@AngusKhan21 Жыл бұрын
some guy walked past a dead snail in the sun and saw that the slime oozing out of it had changed purple. this person was able to do some basic critical thinking and smashed another snail and placed it in the sun, getting the same result. centuries of trial and error ironed out the kinks, and history was left with a profitable method of producing a rare color of pigment. fascinating, yes, but also perfectly reasonable.
@Toreno17
@Toreno17 2 жыл бұрын
Thats crazy how much the San Jose treasure is worth, crazy how much gold and other treasures were being transported back then.
@nurichniemandsonst9639
@nurichniemandsonst9639 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how they'll ever agree on who gets what part of it..
@spritemon98
@spritemon98 2 жыл бұрын
Spice was also the weight of gold
@Toreno17
@Toreno17 2 жыл бұрын
@@nurichniemandsonst9639 That will be a whole can of worms, Spain has a claim as it was their ship, the Colombia has a claim as it is in their territory, but as the ship sailed from Panama its unlikely the cargo originated in Colombia so other Central and South American nations could make a claim as the gold probably came from their nations territory. Overall seems a bit of a mess though as Colombia controls the physical area they seem to have an advantage on claims.
@sunesnigel
@sunesnigel 2 жыл бұрын
Mind boggling. And it really p*sses me off that the Spaniards want it back! They were pure terror on the entire continent and they don't seem to be the least bit ashamed. The id*ots wanting it back should be aware 10 really really hard kicks in the nuts.
@tonivazquez1081
@tonivazquez1081 2 жыл бұрын
They were not being moved the country were I lived robed many of them. Is colonialism and is shameful, believe me.
@RaelNikolaidis
@RaelNikolaidis 2 жыл бұрын
In high school I had a friend whose dad buried dozens of coffee cans filled with cash on their land. They owned a ranch. I helped him dig up a few. I won’t comment on what we did with the cash. So, yeah. The explanation of the buried Roman coins might be really, really stupid instead of mysterious and cool.
@pieceofpecanpie
@pieceofpecanpie 2 жыл бұрын
Did you use the cash to buy toys for buttplay?
@tylerkelley3400
@tylerkelley3400 2 жыл бұрын
@@pieceofpecanpie that was my guess too
@Jessepigman69
@Jessepigman69 2 жыл бұрын
@@pieceofpecanpie industrial quantities of lubricant
@physetermacrocephalus2209
@physetermacrocephalus2209 2 жыл бұрын
You bought weed
@alphagt62
@alphagt62 2 жыл бұрын
People have always buried jars of money in the yard to avoid paying taxes, a practice that is as old as time.
@scottpeters1142
@scottpeters1142 2 жыл бұрын
You are.. one of the best and most interesting channels I've subscribed to on KZbin.
@ShikamaruXT
@ShikamaruXT 2 жыл бұрын
Merry christmas to all who celebrate it, and in all cases, a happy new year. May this one be better than the last.
@359thautisticmetallegion
@359thautisticmetallegion 9 ай бұрын
I’ve studied the Phoenicians and am familiar with Tyrian purple dye. To find a new oldest example of it by far is amazing
@Pbav8tor
@Pbav8tor Жыл бұрын
Hey, Simon! Thanks for the content on so many channels!
@ashb7846
@ashb7846 Жыл бұрын
Me going to the proper authorities after finding 10 gold coins: “Hey, you might want to check out the location where I found these 8 gold coins!”
@Nefville
@Nefville 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine in 1000 years all of the lost socks they'll find.
@DarkFire1536
@DarkFire1536 2 жыл бұрын
This comment is buried treasure. 🤣🤣🤣
@thelyle1399
@thelyle1399 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the biggest treasure found of all. Simon Whistler 😊
@giantred
@giantred 2 жыл бұрын
Someday we will learn the story of the brave divers who brought him to the surface
@dragonmist6699
@dragonmist6699 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, in order to find him, we first have to bury him. Quick grab the shovels. I'll tie him up if you dig the hole. And for heavens sake, don't let me forget to put a gag in his mouth. With all those channels he has the man couldn't possibly know how to shut up for more than an hour.
@Mike504
@Mike504 2 жыл бұрын
Allegedly, in my opinion.
@terryarmbruster9719
@terryarmbruster9719 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong. treasures are buried or hidden. hence the basement. 😀💯👍
@Amethyst_Dragon_
@Amethyst_Dragon_ 2 жыл бұрын
#Don't forget the #Basement crew #Danny #Sam ETA #Jen and the others
@darrenkrivit6854
@darrenkrivit6854 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing, how'd they figure out that process to get to a purple dye🤔🤯
@GBEZ
@GBEZ 2 жыл бұрын
Always a great video to put on with dinner, I look forward to the new uploads for this channel a lot. Thanks for your content!
@Quantum_Donut
@Quantum_Donut Жыл бұрын
I could listen to Simon explain cool stuff all day long.
@CutiePieSweetz
@CutiePieSweetz 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see something on the faberge eggs! 🤩
@jorgelotr3752
@jorgelotr3752 2 жыл бұрын
About the purple dye: not only were there just 3 species of snail able to produce the dye, all of them were (are) sea snails, afaik.
@markfinlay422
@markfinlay422 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful use of "numismatic". Chef's kiss Simon.
@ignitionfrn2223
@ignitionfrn2223 2 жыл бұрын
0:30 - Chapter 1 - Ancient roman silver 2:35 - Chapter 2 - Biblical purple dye 5:20 - Chapter 3 - Captain every's treasure 7:20 - Chapter 4 - Ancient roman gold 9:35 - Chapter 5 - San jose galleon
@laztoth3104
@laztoth3104 2 жыл бұрын
Happy New Years Simon stay well.👍👍👍👍👍
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer to call him Henry 'Long Ben" Avery, the most successful pirate ever. Not only did he raid The Moghul Emperor's treasure fleet on the way to Mecca, he also raided on the way back. He disappeared, and was one of the few pirates to get away with their ill gotten gains. Along with Henry Morgan, he ended up Governor of Jamaica and on bottles of rum!
@Uk5haky
@Uk5haky Жыл бұрын
How long was he? Was it a euphonium ?? And was his favourite letter, R? So many questions, so little time.
@andycopland3179
@andycopland3179 2 жыл бұрын
I live near The Wash in East Anglia. The original crown jewels were lost there and THAT would be a find.
@sarabrucker7847
@sarabrucker7847 2 жыл бұрын
Love the ancient Roman camo gear
@anlemeinthegame1637
@anlemeinthegame1637 2 жыл бұрын
You are the GOAT presenter, Simon. I'm subscribed to all your channels. One Simon = one like from me! Keep up the great work.
@harridan.
@harridan. 2 жыл бұрын
i will take Sir Tony any day. so much more than a mere voice
@Textile_Courtesan
@Textile_Courtesan 2 жыл бұрын
@@harridan. oh that's hard. Sir Tony of Time Team is an amazing presenter but he's more than that. I think he's in a category all unto himself. Apples and oranges.
@btetschner
@btetschner 2 жыл бұрын
I spent a semester abroad studying at the University of Alicante. Very interesting treasure finds.
@JupiterLune
@JupiterLune 2 жыл бұрын
Your winter chin plumage is exceptionally remarkable, Simon. From a faithful facial topiarist, I love it. Good content too, with a humourous twist. Happy Winter stuff, Sir!
@newman653
@newman653 Жыл бұрын
For every treasure find we hear about there would be several finds we will never know about .
@ryproar11
@ryproar11 2 жыл бұрын
I found a working atari 2600 in my attic of my new house. That is my ancient treasure I recently found. 😂
@rhodrambles3943
@rhodrambles3943 2 жыл бұрын
The most amazing thing I learnt in this video is by far the process used to make the purple dye. Who found out the process by randomly leaving out snail glands in the sun.
@igxrruaof
@igxrruaof 2 жыл бұрын
my heart goes to those snails, you the mvp
@earnestbrown6524
@earnestbrown6524 2 жыл бұрын
Funny story was playing a DnD campaign and I would change my gold in for gems or valuable objects. Went out to stash them one night outside the city that we using as a base and the next day the group got transported to another world. Had like 2 silver and a few copper on me.
@Textile_Courtesan
@Textile_Courtesan 2 жыл бұрын
Your DM is devious and planned that just to leave you penniless.
@loganrobinett1783
@loganrobinett1783 Жыл бұрын
If you have to say funny story before hand it's probably not funny.
@route2070
@route2070 2 жыл бұрын
With the pirate treasure, I gotta take a closer look at that, since I lived in Middletown RI, for about a year, years before this finding happened. That said, I doubt it was found on a farm, unless it is a fish farm, or a spot in someone's backyard where they grow some crops for personal consumption. Middletown is one of three towns on a rather small island, inside of the bay that nearly divides the state in half.
@rieskimo
@rieskimo 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't need to be a huge agricultural stretch to be a "farm" and there's plenty of little farms on Aquidneck island
@michaelsummerell8618
@michaelsummerell8618 Жыл бұрын
Surprised not to see the Padmanabhaswamy Temple treasure find in here (unless you've covered it elsewhere) - this surely has to be one of biggest treasure finds of recent years.
@adamelliott3528
@adamelliott3528 2 жыл бұрын
The real treasure was the friends we made along the way.
@brutalpenguincollectables5065
@brutalpenguincollectables5065 Жыл бұрын
"the diaper juice was a brilliant shade of royal purple."
@hotmechanic222
@hotmechanic222 2 жыл бұрын
The real reason the San Jose is worth so much is that they will be able to recover the time machine that was used to transport a ship built in 1698 back to 1588 so it could take part in the Spanish Armada!!
@rhondasisco-cleveland2665
@rhondasisco-cleveland2665 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking me to sleep Simon. (I’m trying to sleep through the Covid. 😷🤒😴💤)
@MsMcKat-ub4sm
@MsMcKat-ub4sm 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you couldn't find a picture of the shells that produced dye. Not land snails like you showed but Murex sea shells, or rock snails.
@rikspector
@rikspector 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know the way to San Jose???? Cheers, Rik
@PATRICKSMITH1
@PATRICKSMITH1 Жыл бұрын
For any would- be treasure hunters, England's original crown jewels are lying somewhere off the coast of East Anglia.
@seanmcdonagh1937
@seanmcdonagh1937 Жыл бұрын
Simon, you are a national treasure 👌😆💯
@wolfiemuse
@wolfiemuse Жыл бұрын
1:40 this is OUTSTANDINGLY good condition for coins like these, much less for the state of relics of this age PERIOD. I had never seen these pictures; I heard about the find (majored in Humanities with a focus in ancient Roman literature) but never saw these pictures. I have a different career path now, but I still love all things Roman & Greco-Roman. These coins.. it looks like they were plucked out of time. This condition is similar to what an average person would have used at the time. Outstanding.
@Baldric1600
@Baldric1600 2 жыл бұрын
I like the new look young man.
@Someaddress555s
@Someaddress555s 2 жыл бұрын
When you find something buried in the ground neatly it's a pretty good guess it was a bank of sorts, where someone hid something valuable because others wanted to take it.
@babyrazor6887
@babyrazor6887 2 жыл бұрын
or it's a fake vid. Actually during the colonial period German settlers would bury 4 little jars with a few coins inside in the four cardinal directions around the home thinking this brings good fortune. AND during construction of their home, over the main doorway, in the masonry, they would also conceal a small jar with coins for the same reason.
@oreskec
@oreskec 2 жыл бұрын
why are these videos often so low in volume? turned to 100% and I still have to have my ear glued to speaker to hear anything
@HelixMX
@HelixMX Жыл бұрын
The real treasure is the friends we made along the way
@theoztreecrasher2647
@theoztreecrasher2647 Жыл бұрын
Getting to be mostly "buried treasure" at this stage of my life! 🤔🙄😱
@craigschaffert
@craigschaffert 2 жыл бұрын
How you figure out the purple snail trick???
@deepbludude4697
@deepbludude4697 2 жыл бұрын
I worked on a salvage project off Colombia actually quite far off, on a tiny reef that goes sry at low tide. Its truly amazing the stuff you can find in absolutely remote locations. At night I could hear the ghosts of all the souls that drowned when there vessels also found the reef.
@invisiblue3212
@invisiblue3212 2 жыл бұрын
🙄🤨
@aintmisbehavin7400
@aintmisbehavin7400 2 жыл бұрын
That purple dye process! I mean, what had to happen for humans to come up with that? Did someone find a half dried dead snail and see a drop off purple liquid? Lordy.
@zackmoon592
@zackmoon592 2 жыл бұрын
Ancient king wanting purple clothes; "I DECLARE A SNAIL GENOCIDE" 🐌 Same king later, writhing around in a snail snot jacket; "I AM A *GOD*"
@Ruminyx13
@Ruminyx13 2 жыл бұрын
Im just wondering how someone figured out how to get dye from snails
@patrickmanasco5905
@patrickmanasco5905 9 ай бұрын
Finally a list that isn’t 100% bs
@wcbbsd
@wcbbsd 2 жыл бұрын
U r all incredible treasures.
@gmoney4980
@gmoney4980 2 жыл бұрын
Christmas has gone & passed, yet Whistler keeps giving us gifts..
@pleb6869
@pleb6869 2 жыл бұрын
More!!!
@jackalbright4599
@jackalbright4599 2 жыл бұрын
4:20 Not to mention the process is incredibly stinky! Apparently, the dye comes at more of a cost than you’d think. Lol 🐌🤢🐌
@RupertFoulmouth
@RupertFoulmouth 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the purple fibers were muppet pubes. Learn something new every day.
@ryanward3923
@ryanward3923 2 жыл бұрын
Great content! I was your 600,000th sub.... Do I win a prize? lol
@74_Green
@74_Green 2 жыл бұрын
0:09 Was that Simons lost hair? Probably hanging out with mine 😅
@ashleydolin4292
@ashleydolin4292 2 жыл бұрын
Okay how the hell did they find out how to make purple dye using snails? That's some crazy stuff
@RealBradMiller
@RealBradMiller 2 жыл бұрын
They also use scale insects found on opuntia cacti that makes a red dye for clothing and food! Who the hell thought that up?!
@mynamea.n.s.s5472
@mynamea.n.s.s5472 2 жыл бұрын
I remember finding a really old coin that wasn’t normal looking and because I was a child I lost it I remember a big head of a man and it was bent 😢
@venomous7321
@venomous7321 Жыл бұрын
Do you already have a video on the greatest sunken treasure that were never found?
@ewetoobblowzdogg8410
@ewetoobblowzdogg8410 2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping Oak Island would be on that list...
@Estolcles
@Estolcles 2 жыл бұрын
Weird production error: Kept Jim Bailey's name on the screen instead of the Captain's name.
@vic5015
@vic5015 2 жыл бұрын
Josh Gates is *super* jealous that Captain Every's treasure has been found. Same for the San Jose.
@truckinconvoy7312
@truckinconvoy7312 2 жыл бұрын
Hey fact boy, you know what could be a video farm? A side project about the L3HARRIS GPNVG goggles. Or for today I found out, a video about why is night vision green? But then to dive into white phosphorus and the ultra modern "silver lining" infrared tech
@Kiarean
@Kiarean Жыл бұрын
My favorite treasure was the one found by that Australian guy... and promptly taken from him by the Australian Government. You just can't quite leave behind that criminal past, can ya Australia? -_-
@jimistephen
@jimistephen 2 жыл бұрын
What about the guy that hid a bunch of stuff and then put the location in a riddle in a book he wrote and it was found in '20?
@marty0063
@marty0063 2 жыл бұрын
I think I know what you’re talking about. The Secret or something like that. Only part of them have been found. There are still more to find, but you have to decipher the clues.
@tomhenry897
@tomhenry897 Жыл бұрын
Another video
@MAGGOT_VOMIT
@MAGGOT_VOMIT 2 жыл бұрын
Lesson of the day. If ya find treasure.........tell no one!! 😎
@Yostuba
@Yostuba Жыл бұрын
>Why was the jug burried. This was like around the late bronze age collapse. Shit was utter chaos during that time constant war/attacks. Throwing coins in a jug and digging a shallow hideyhole hastily makes perfect sense.
@tk-zh3dd
@tk-zh3dd 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot about Forrest Fenn’s treasure!
@MrKimberlove
@MrKimberlove Жыл бұрын
Suggestion: do a history on the dog breed Keeshond.
@Paul-hl8yg
@Paul-hl8yg 2 жыл бұрын
The purple cloth of a king found in a slag heap? The ancient Egyptians used purple dyes from molluscs. I'm not sure this find actually confirms king David's existence, although he probably did exist. In ancient Egypt a time came when non royals were allowed to wear purple, perhaps others were allowed in Israel or the wearer being a foreign visitor? A lot of conclusions based on little evidence with this find i believe.
@WEDMorn3AM-u9h
@WEDMorn3AM-u9h 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I press play on your videos and it doesn't work. Can you teach me why? X
@WEDMorn3AM-u9h
@WEDMorn3AM-u9h 2 жыл бұрын
*que whatever noise you'd like
@carlstanland5333
@carlstanland5333 2 жыл бұрын
8:54 Only $12k and $50k? Are you missing a few zeros there?
@Mirokuofnite
@Mirokuofnite 2 жыл бұрын
The 12k for the melt value. But the historical value would place them over 50k. Probably 5-10k PER coin.
@judithhope8970
@judithhope8970 2 жыл бұрын
How on earth did they discover a snail gland could produce a dye? Who discovered that?
@vortexgen1
@vortexgen1 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that 17 billion dollar treasure spread around to all the countries museums that have a claim to it, so everyone can see some of the parts of this treasure.
@Novastar.SaberCombat
@Novastar.SaberCombat Жыл бұрын
I only wish more people had protected and buried the most important messages of their collective societal knowledge. Not worthless coins and baubles of temporal, terrestrial vanity. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
@donaldoehl7690
@donaldoehl7690 Жыл бұрын
Treasure Hunters just found a shipwreck in Lake Michigan near Manistee (?) that they believe is full of gold coins, and even more interesting, many barrels of 150yo whiskey.
@susanrobinson910
@susanrobinson910 2 жыл бұрын
Ancient dude: drops a coin somewhere Modern dude: “Look! Buried treasure!!”
@mike86812
@mike86812 2 жыл бұрын
Oh good ,someone found my coins! I have tried to took for them a few times but the area became so politically unstable, I had to give up. It's not easy getting older...
@FancyRPGCanada
@FancyRPGCanada 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the Avery treasure what they were looking for in uncharted 4?
@33tarot
@33tarot 2 жыл бұрын
Mercury retrograde at 5:38
@studogable
@studogable Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the purple dye date to the bronze age, not the iron age?
@meh7348
@meh7348 Жыл бұрын
If I was Spain I would have just sat down and kept quiet. That'd be like if something went missing from the British Museum and England said they want their stuff back 😅
@athulmsuresh-ji7xn
@athulmsuresh-ji7xn Жыл бұрын
World biggest treasure found in Kerala, 🇮🇳India ...u can make a vdo
@theoztreecrasher2647
@theoztreecrasher2647 Жыл бұрын
You mean they found the strongbox where they were stashing all the loot they conned from folks who they were "helping to fix your computer"??!!! 😉
@rhhr5698
@rhhr5698 2 жыл бұрын
The real treasure was the friendship found along the way
@O-sa-car
@O-sa-car 2 жыл бұрын
lol at the random b roll footage
@marjorie6573
@marjorie6573 Жыл бұрын
San Jose treasure = 17 BILLION DOLLARS! 😲
@chrisridley1840
@chrisridley1840 2 жыл бұрын
Lost of people used to bury their valuables for safety...it would almost be a safe bet to say that's why it was buried.
@DadJeff-jo7pm
@DadJeff-jo7pm 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you mention the Fact of the Dive Company whom are the ones whom discovered the San Jose, Simon? There is a huge Legal battle continuing over this.......
@katmannsson
@katmannsson 2 жыл бұрын
"hadnt faded one bit" has clearly faded
@KodasGarden
@KodasGarden 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of side projects, how is this guy on like 8 different KZbin channels
@Veritas1980-Chill
@Veritas1980-Chill 2 жыл бұрын
is the footage used from sea of thieves?
@colinwalker3991
@colinwalker3991 2 жыл бұрын
I found 10 tons of gold bullion ...just need help to get it out of the vault....
@johnsomething567
@johnsomething567 2 жыл бұрын
Another priceless treasure? My Aunt Jean. Also , jewels.
@olwynskye417
@olwynskye417 2 жыл бұрын
I think that in Finland you get 20 € or something for a massive find. If you find gold here, they'll take it without negotiation. Never ever report any find to anyone. If you find a WW2 bomb or something, just leave it there in hopes that some government official s stumbles upon it
@justanoman6497
@justanoman6497 2 жыл бұрын
Nit: Colonial country rarely literally steal things. It is usually a combination of robbery, plunder, scam, unequal trade and spoil of war. And depending on the exact nature, that might affect how they should be treated. For starters, let's consider scam and unequal trade. The difference here, IMO, is whether or not the terms of an exchange is carried out. If it isn't, it's a scam. If it is, then it's unequal trade. Here I mean stuff like shiny glass for gold. IMO, scam should be treated the same as "stolen" and profit reverted. But unequal trade, by our standard, is still fair trade in the eye of the supposed victim. As such, I do believe "unequal trade" should be upheld, as they are only unequal in our eyes. Robbery and plunder should also be reverted like "stolen." This then leads to the question of, what is the difference between plunder versus spoil of war? For the most part, I'd say by how the battle, if any, started and how it progressed. For the most extreme examples, attack on a pure civilian settlement for no cause is simple plunder. On the other end, if the natives attacked first and the colonials won, counter attacked and won again, that is most likely spoil of war. The stuff in the middle would be more murky. Things would be simpler if there were formal declaration of war but as the colonials rarely thought the natives as actual nations, that's rarely if ever done. So it will probably go roughly by the degree of military involvement. And with that, we come to the most difficult part of this, what do we do with spoil of war. A lot of people advocate for those too to be reverted as that would be the "right" thing to do, and intuitively, this is how I *feel* as well. But this does not pass intellectual validation in terms of standardization of practice. There are a lot of things that were the spoil of war, including many nations and domain thereof. We aren't seeking for all of those to be returned, so why these specifically? It feels like the decision is more based on whether it is easy and feels right than whether it is right. And... I can't agree with such hypocritical practices. Besides that, the modern view on spoil of war is very... modern. For the longest time, it is was accepted as a normal course of action. In fact, in many ways it is still practiced as such. It's just that today, instead of direct plunder of valuables, it is often more in the form of political influence. Now, in the event of high profile artifact where we know which form of "transaction" took place, we can act accordingly. But barring that, given all of the above, I would only advocate for return of about 70% of the item, favoring those with higher culture value over monetary value. So statues, tablets and other artifacts etc over simple gold.
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