Five power supplies for the WiiM Pro+

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The Hans Beekhuyzen Channel

The Hans Beekhuyzen Channel

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@AverageNiceGuy
@AverageNiceGuy 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 9 ай бұрын
You bet!
@johnkenny470
@johnkenny470 9 ай бұрын
I have always enjoyed your content, Hans. I have just bought a Wii Pro Plus and an IFI Power 2 based on this review for my old but dead capable 'semi' smartspeaker B&W A7. It arrives tomorrow. On system 1 I run an Auralic G2.1 streamer with an aftermarket Hoer Wege PSU feeding a Denafips DDC and Terminator II DAC with expensive i2S and clock cabling and Network acoustics LAN components, among other expensive audio jewellry (the Auva EQ footers are a recommend of yours I am enjoying also). I'm not expecting remotely similar audio to my setup 1, but a fun office room and convenient streamer. Anyway, to my point: you are so gracious with your replies to people's questions. I ask no questions, just wanted to thank you for all that you do for our community. A real gent, we salute you
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 9 ай бұрын
Enjoy the music 😊
@giuseppecassano7071
@giuseppecassano7071 3 күн бұрын
@@johnkenny470 are there big differences between system 1 and 2?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 күн бұрын
Really???!!!
@neilsmith5464
@neilsmith5464 Жыл бұрын
Another super fascinating, helpful & insightful video Hans. appreciate the clarifications and absolute descriptions you were using to describe the sound. I have seen a few DIY RPi PSU's using super capacitors specifically to improve the delivery of the DAC HAT boards.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
choices, choices
@latinochico
@latinochico Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, I purchased the ifi ipower2 for my WiiM pro plus , I can definitely hear a big improvement over stock usb power. This is my first time hearing a low noise power supply. My set up: wharfedale 12.2 Yamaha A-501 WiiM pro plus Tidal connect
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Enjoy it
@tomhill4003
@tomhill4003 8 ай бұрын
Great video! I'm an old analogue guy and am doing my homework to figure out a good DAC/Streaming option to feed into my 80's era stereo set-up. I'm well aware of the effects of power supplies on older equipment, but am clueless on how they affect the modern digital gear. Your explanation gives me a lot of good information to go on. THANK YOU!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
My pleasure entirely!
@barlow2976
@barlow2976 8 ай бұрын
Hans, you're a star (as is Tarun, The British Audiophile). I have a WiiM Pro Plus hooked up to a Mojo, which fed my Denon PMA600ne amp. I could barely hear the commercial freezer/compressor/pump come on in the barn through my Br03 speakers, but when I acquired my Grados it was more obvious, and then I started thinking I could hear a very,very faint hiss. Imagine my joy when I saw your video, which could have been tailored for me. An iPower 2 was just delivered which I've plugged into the WiiM. I am staggered by the difference , I'm not even going to ask my wife to keep swapping over power leads, the difference is incontrovertible. On the strength of that I've ordered a 6-way power strip that won a What HiFi magazine award, for a modest £40. Fortunately my pockets, and my wife, will prevent this from becoming an obsession, but I can't figure out how the barn circuit is getting to the house circuit. Forget it and turn the music up! A million thanks.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
👍🏼
@jamesfarrow6752
@jamesfarrow6752 Жыл бұрын
I have 2 SBooster power supplies, one for my ADOT fibre optic kit and one for my Chord MScaler. I was fortunate enough to be able to try both prior to purchasing them and was extremely surprised by the level of improvement.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Enjoy the music.
@stevenwaldstein2249
@stevenwaldstein2249 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comparison. Before I saw this video I had purchased the iFi Power2 to use with my WiiM Pro and Pro Plus. Will watch again and see what more I learn. Would be nice to rate each of the power supplies on a scale say from 1 to 10 to help us better understand the performance improvements relative to each other.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
I don't like single dimension ratings.
@stevenwaldstein2249
@stevenwaldstein2249 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Understand, then let’s develop a three or five category one. Say 1. Sound Quality, 2. Build Quality, 3. Software Quality/Support, 4. Ease of Integration, 5. Features or what ever with a 1 to 5 in each. Every problem has a solution. Thanks for your time.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Perhaps you should start your own channel. It’s a lot of work though.
@hest
@hest 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video. I've been watching your channel for around a year now before I bought my first headphone setup, Sennheiser 660S2 with Ifi signature dac and amp, each with a ipower 2, and was generally happy with the sound. But there was some harshness, too sibilant and some glaring quality that was fatiguing. When I got my wiim pro yesterday with the ifi 2 power supply that harshness was all gone! It now sounds sublime to my ears and I am very happy about my purchase thanks to your very informative videos so I would like to thank you for everything.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@techmed-rainer
@techmed-rainer Жыл бұрын
Danke!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Danke dir auch
@denisblades1375
@denisblades1375 Жыл бұрын
Took your advise and installed the iFi iPower 2 to the WiiM Pro connected to an external DAC. I could not believe there would be such a difference made by a power supply. Thank you !
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@sydneybird116
@sydneybird116 Жыл бұрын
If i understand correctly, Hans explained that the power supply for the digital source is not as critical as the power supply for the DAC. You need the clean power for the D/A converters. I'm surprised that you hear a difference when you use the WiiM as a digital source. Do you have another iFi iPower 2 on your DAC as well? Might be interesting to compare with and without for the WiiM and the DAC, four tests in all.
@denisblades1375
@denisblades1375 Жыл бұрын
The iFi Power2 was only used for the streamer circuit in the WiiM Pro. Coax cable was used to a Yamaha A4A receiver. I definitely heard more clarity in the output sound.
@aammdj
@aammdj 10 ай бұрын
@@bruciox The WiiM Pro Plus is a 5v.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 10 ай бұрын
The 5 volt version
@mkcraghead
@mkcraghead 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great review. One thing that I hadn't thought about before, but stuck me from your video was the use of the ENO to filter the Ethernet connection. I hadn't given it any thought, but I guess it makes sense that there could be noise on that signal path. It gives me a whole new area to look at (i.e., Ethernet filtering and audio grade switches).
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 ай бұрын
👍🏼
@Steven-cs5cw
@Steven-cs5cw Жыл бұрын
Thank you again Hans for another informative and useful video. I had the same experience with the power supplies and WiiM Pro. I have both the LHY 5v LPS and the ifi2 5v PS, I cannot tell the difference between the two. But, they did have an overall positive impact on the sound, as you stated.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@ioannisthpapanagiotou9477
@ioannisthpapanagiotou9477 11 ай бұрын
Using always an external dac for my wiim pro worth it to power it with a linear power supply? Thak you
@jMartinez-l7k
@jMartinez-l7k 10 ай бұрын
Is that the LHY with 2 x 5V outputs? Seems like that would be a better buy if you have two components than use 5v.
@RAMIRO61FERNANDES
@RAMIRO61FERNANDES Жыл бұрын
Hi Hans. I bought the Sbooster 12v for my Nokia Streaming Box 8010. I was curious and skeptical! After I connect Sbooster I ear immediatly the diference for much better!! You know, the sound is more rich, pleasant, more bass freq., more delicious. NO FATIGUE.NOW I ENJOY LISTEN FOR HOURS!!! THE VIDEO ON MY LG IS NOT FATIGUE FOR MY EYES AND BRAIN!!! These days only listen to youtube music videos! APPLE music is spleeping now. Thanks for your GREAT REVIEWS!!!!!!!! I USE A RX-A6A>AT4007>FOCAL826D
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@hansgaulhofer8742
@hansgaulhofer8742 Жыл бұрын
Bedankt
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
🙏🏻
@mikeh3787
@mikeh3787 9 ай бұрын
I have Wiim Pro plus and just ordered the IFI. I may get a sbooster down the road but I need my new speakers 1st. Thanks for the great review.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 9 ай бұрын
👍🏼
@Seegurke.
@Seegurke. 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic video, very helpfull and great presentation. The way you respond to almost every comment is impressive, takes a lot of time. Great channel.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 10 ай бұрын
Thank you
@johnkom2339
@johnkom2339 2 ай бұрын
AS others, I say thanks for comprehensive review.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 ай бұрын
👍🏼
@jonpatrick66
@jonpatrick66 9 ай бұрын
Hans, you're the,"Real Deal" in the Audio Equipment World. Thank you
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 9 ай бұрын
🙏🏻
@marcohermans3207
@marcohermans3207 5 күн бұрын
As I mentioned yesterday in my comment that the powerbank, easy available in Holland for €35, can be a big improvement. I listened to this video a few times after that specially the part about batteries . A powerbank is nothing more then a battery . You stated in this video that batteries have also disadvantages and I agree with that . Maybe they produce more noise then a LPS but it's way less noisy then the provided cheap PS the manufacturer (Bluesound, Wiim, etc) provide with their products. Today I tested the IFI Power 2 and the IFI power X with the bluesound. My local HifI shop gave me these units this morning for testing out. These units sell for €79/€119 depending on the version. I compared them with the HAMA Powerbank 24000mA available everywhere in Holland. The Powerbank outperforms the IFI's easily in terms of SQ in every aspect specially in soundstage, depth and clearence of instruments. I didn't expected that to be honest because the IFI's are dedicated audio Power supplies. I think it's because there is no AC voltage interference possible in the chain with a battery . The Bluesound is connected with RCA out to my Amp. The IFis are going back, minimal improvements over the stock PS although The power X is the better sounding option of the two. Now I'm gonna try a LPS. If that isn't outperforming the powerbank by quite a margin , considering their much higher pricepoints, I'll stay with the powerbank. In the end it are the results I'm hearing that are counting and not some oscilloscope measurements. I'm a guitar player and I'm powering my effects with batteries for the exact same reason. I learned this from listening to experiences from the best guitar players in the world who' are very picky about their sound like Eric Johnson. He's not only a brilliant quitar player but he's also a nerd when it comes to electronics,cables,connectors,amps and guitars. He's a rich man so he can buy every PS money can buy but always uses regular 9V batteries.... His explanation....It sounds the best, no mains interference possible in my effect chain. After every set the batteries are exchanged for new ones. I watch a lot of your videos. You're the best in business , a good teacher, knowledgeable, no BS but straight to the point. My compliments. I'll subscribe to the the channel.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 күн бұрын
They are noisy and inconvenient.
@marcohermans3207
@marcohermans3207 Күн бұрын
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel , yes maybe they are but then please explain why while they are noisier, they outperform the supplied PS by a fair margin? They should sound worse then....inconvenience, I agree, but I take that as a side issue till I'm founding something more convenient at a reasonable price
@G3rain1
@G3rain1 Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to know how choice of power supply affects the Wiim's sound when using it with an external DAC.
@iansgalaxy
@iansgalaxy Жыл бұрын
I had one of the first wiim pro plus and tried it out of the box, then added an ifi, then a proper linear power supply (lhy) clear improvements at every stage, then a dac, I the went back to the ifi with a noticeable drop off in quality, I didn't bother trying it using stock power with the external dac. Han's does mention that you can soon get into a situation where you might be better off getting something more than a wiim pro... I ended up returning the wiim and the ifi, that said they are well with the money but I needed to go higher.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@robertlogue3794
@robertlogue3794 Жыл бұрын
I'm in a position where the WIIM is my best choice in terms of Accessibility because I'm blind. I started with a WIIM Mini. I wonder if I should just stay with the mini and get an external dac and better power supply. But I wonder if the digital output from the mini is not good enough to get better results from a higher end dac.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
The bitstream out of even the WiiM Plus Pro is good enough for a low end DAC. If you use a mid-range DAC, a. better streamer or network bridge will give better sound through the DAC.
@mikeg2491
@mikeg2491 Жыл бұрын
@@iansgalaxyI think the WiiM is great for a supplementary system in a spare room but if you got the expensive equipment on the audio end just splurge and get a good streamer for main unit.
@enduro500sp
@enduro500sp Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! Does the result of the test also apply to using the wiim with the digital outputs? Best regards!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
It should
@gogo-fk1lu
@gogo-fk1lu Жыл бұрын
Hello sir, is there anything wrong if the power supply is connected to the same multiplug as the amplifier, CD player...
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
In principle I would prefer to have that connected elsewhere or via a grid filter.
@AlexAnikin
@AlexAnikin Жыл бұрын
How would the results change if WiiM Pro+ would connected to DAC first, like dinafrips, over toslink which connected to an amp over RCA? I understand interference is still a thing, but these PSU can have different results.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
The sound quality will be higher but not to the level the Denafrips can deliver with a better streamer.
@AlexAnikin
@AlexAnikin Жыл бұрын
Hans, thank you for the answer. May I ask your recommendation of a streamer to consider or a few? My system as a reference for the price range: WiiM -> Denafrips Enyo -> Parasound A23 -> Polk Audio SRS 2 (after thorough rebuild)
@Steven-cs5cw
@Steven-cs5cw Жыл бұрын
I would try the WiiM Pro, pick up a linear power supply like the LHY 5v unit and get the WiiM remote so you can use the WiiM Pro as a preamp. Use a good digital coax cable to hook to your Enyo. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. I am using my WiiM Pro through a PS Audio DAC right now, and it sounds better than the other much more expensive streamers I have had through here.
@AlexAnikin
@AlexAnikin Жыл бұрын
Today I spent half a day comparing my streamers and dacs. I tried Nirvana SMPS too, for some reason in my setup it adds more noise. My resulting system: WiiM Pro Plus -> audioquest toslink -> Enyo -> Parasound A23 -> Polk Audio SDA SRS 2. Result is top. For my ears and expectations
@Steven-cs5cw
@Steven-cs5cw Жыл бұрын
@@AlexAnikinSo, which power supply are you using? The one that came with the WiiM? Just curious.
@aammdj
@aammdj 10 ай бұрын
Hans, have you tried the iFi iPowerX? This is supposedly the next step up from the iPower2. I am considering this to improve my Wiim Pro Plus.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 10 ай бұрын
No, I haven’t. Sorry
@mw12387
@mw12387 7 ай бұрын
Hello...nice review, and thanks for tip...I have Wiim pro, via coax out to Marantz hd dac1, via analog out to my amp Musical fidelity m5 si, with b&w 703 s2....Today i get ifi I power mkIi..., and I can say it is a big difference in sound...really big improvement....👍
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 ай бұрын
Sounds great!
@tillyhatcam
@tillyhatcam Жыл бұрын
You should try a battery power supply. I have had very good results from an inexpensive LHY lithium battery supply. Lithium batteries have very low internal resistance.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
I have tried. Wasn't convinced.
@tz7813
@tz7813 Жыл бұрын
You tried a power bank to power the Wiim Pro+ ? I do that with my WiiM Mini but I don’t know what the power consumption of this new WiiM is? I have a powerful Ankar Powerbank that can power a laptop. How long does your Powerbank last?
@BarksALot-n6c
@BarksALot-n6c Жыл бұрын
Great review once again. You have really helped me on my short journey. Have you considered adding the newer iFI iPower X to your arsenal?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
No, time was against it
@newfguy1826
@newfguy1826 Жыл бұрын
Hi Hans, I have an SBooster ECO BOTW MkII linear power supply. My WIIM Pro has a USB-C power connecter. The Sbooster didn't come with a USB-C adapter. How did you connect yours?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
By Buying an adaptor cable on line.
@sydneybird116
@sydneybird116 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Now you will have to compare the $5 adaptor cables to the $350 ones. 🤣
@deadline7610
@deadline7610 Жыл бұрын
Nicely Done. In my setup I'm using the Wiim with an external dac. If I add the IFI ipower 2 would it be better used with the external dac or the Wiim ? Thanks
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
It does with me.
@Khr8597
@Khr8597 3 ай бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannelcan you clarify which word better?
@sneakyds
@sneakyds Жыл бұрын
Would it make a difference in you were only using the WiiM as a transport delivering its digital output over, say, optical to an external DAC?
@simplereef4854
@simplereef4854 Жыл бұрын
Everything related to electronics can be interfered. That is my experience working with Fieldbus devices.
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street Жыл бұрын
It would but your money would be better spent on a better streamer.
@ericfrederick1227
@ericfrederick1227 Жыл бұрын
@@Pete.across.the.street have you a/b’ed a WiiM vs. “a better streamer”? And if so, what were the results. Thanks!
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street Жыл бұрын
@@ericfrederick1227 yup. Result was i returned the Wiim pro plus because it sounded pretty bad comparatively.
@1jhnpennington
@1jhnpennington Жыл бұрын
​@@Pete.across.the.streetcompared to which streamer/s?
@bebbop
@bebbop 4 ай бұрын
It's not included in the comparisons, but there is an improved version of ifi ipower 2, called ifi ipower x. A more expensive version, but much better, and still cheaper than PD Creative or Sbooster.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 ай бұрын
thanks for sharing
@Charles-kq3ce
@Charles-kq3ce 10 ай бұрын
Can you clarify with the sBooster which voltage option to take as they produce several from 5V power supply to 24 V option. I am also using a Diablo X which has its own battery and therefore I don't think there is a need for a second power upgrade ?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 10 ай бұрын
The Wiim needs 5 volts plus a USC C adapter
@TheIoMeroMero
@TheIoMeroMero 5 ай бұрын
You remind me of college teachers you fear at first but later you end up loving. Great video! You helped a lot!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 ай бұрын
My pleasure
@7in1
@7in1 5 ай бұрын
Do I get it right that, ideal sound scene on wiim will be when connected to 5v batteries power bank?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 ай бұрын
No
@blue6point62
@blue6point62 Жыл бұрын
Hi Hans. I have my WiiM Pro powered by the Topping P50 LPS. But it’s only 1 amp. Do you think this is straining or limiting in any way?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Probably
@PJJTremblay
@PJJTremblay 4 ай бұрын
Great video ... I just bought the Wiim Pro, using it as streamer only with Emotiva TA2 (AudioQuest Coax Cable connection) ... am I correct in saying that better power supply will not have an impact because I am NOT using the Wiim Pro DAC ?? Thank you
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 ай бұрын
My pleasure
@TheSeanq56
@TheSeanq56 5 ай бұрын
Hi, Thanks for your review. I have one quick question. How do you plug in a dc tiped power supply into the wiim usb c power input? thanks
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 ай бұрын
Using a converter cable. They are offered on line.
@thinkIndependent2024
@thinkIndependent2024 Жыл бұрын
Great 👍👍👍 Video I use my on adjustable power supplies , with my scope the best sound is possible
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks!
@zorglubmagnus455
@zorglubmagnus455 7 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t understand where is the ‘noise’ or ‘distortion’ that upgrades are supposed to solve. I compared the regular Wiim to the Pro Plus; I can't hear a difference. I got the Nirvana power supply: I can't hear a difference. I got new preamp Tubes for my tube amp: I can't hear a difference. Not sure if I should be disappointed I can't hear any issues or happy I'm saving money and I'm content. I was genuinely hoping to hear something "better" or "different". Does anyone else feel as perplexed as I do?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 ай бұрын
It's the noise in the digital circuit that confuses the digital to analog converter and causes distortion there. It's not the noise in the analog signal.
@michaelolivero8491
@michaelolivero8491 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Would the differences become less audible when the streamer is connected to an external DAC?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
To some degree, depending on the DAC used.
@michaelolivero8491
@michaelolivero8491 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m using the internal DAC in my Hegel H190. I’m mostly curious if in your experience, streamers that aren’t using their DACs are as affected by flimsy power supplies. Thanks!
@chrisrizzo627
@chrisrizzo627 11 ай бұрын
Great video. I live in the US and have a WiiM Pro, anthem 1140 and paradigm founder 120 speakers. Which power supply would you recommend? Thank you so much!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 11 ай бұрын
The SBooster would be my choice
@crackerbuzz
@crackerbuzz 7 ай бұрын
Hello could you please tell me if the PD-CF power supply would be similar or as good as the Beatechnik LPS A6 power supply for the A6 Master? Would like to hear your thoughts on both manufacturers
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 ай бұрын
I have not reviewed the Pf-CF so I can’t say
@crackerbuzz
@crackerbuzz 7 ай бұрын
It is made by PD Creatives and is currently on special for 660PLN . I am thinking its probably a better option currently than the Beatechnik. Would you recommend PD Creatives products?
@noahmaes
@noahmaes 11 ай бұрын
I wonder how general available powersupplies (for example apple usb-c 20w, apple macbook or the 3a raspberry pi) will work, what is a proper test for it?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 11 ай бұрын
Listen to it.
@outolempinimi5165
@outolempinimi5165 10 ай бұрын
Any measurements or blind ABX?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 10 ай бұрын
I measure everything and only report things that clearly affect audible sound quality. As far as double blind testing is concerned , watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3iZfYZvi6mNosksi=rZBuxD7Ky6AxSz7l
@outolempinimi5165
@outolempinimi5165 10 ай бұрын
Excuse me but I didn’t catch any measurements relating to differences in audio output signal. As for blind testing I’m not able to tell what would the argument for or against it be but I’m assuming no such thing is called for here.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 10 ай бұрын
The latter is explained in the video I mentioned
@WestonWill
@WestonWill 9 ай бұрын
No, because it's mostly influenced by the price and visual bias. Is the output of one power supply cleaner than another, show me the signals. Does it even matter since the DAC already has all the power filtering it needs. Blind test would result in no audible difference.
@aleph0909
@aleph0909 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative videos Hans. Good to know there is someone out there to whom you can count on giving an educated, based on experience evaluation. Can you please advise, what would be more important, to connect ifi power supply to a dac [topping e50] or to wiim mini? Cheers.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Both actually. Since I have no experience with the Topping DAC, I can't say whether - when having only one power supply - the sound will improve more when used on the Topping or the Whim.
@aleph0909
@aleph0909 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thanks
@MaxZappa1
@MaxZappa1 Жыл бұрын
Hi Hans, a great video here on the subject of power supplies. My source is a WiiM PRO (5v) into a separate DAC, in my case a Musical Fidelity V90 (12v). If I buy just one IFI Power 2, should I buy it for the WiiM Pro or for the Musical Fidelity V90 dac? Thank you.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
I would start with the WiiM, but you can try it for yourself, of course.
@j-rod6420
@j-rod6420 8 ай бұрын
Would using one of those battery backups be a decent test to see if your power supply is negatively affecting your sound?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 8 ай бұрын
Batteries are.noisy too so a bad alternative
@j-rod6420
@j-rod6420 8 ай бұрын
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel ok thanks.
@zoltans72
@zoltans72 Жыл бұрын
What would be more beneficial upgrading the power supply or adding a better DAC, for example smsl su1 ?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
I don’t know the smls so I can’t say
@zoltans72
@zoltans72 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel ok, then maybe some other fairly budget DAC ? I guess it would not make sense to add a very expensive one because then I can buy another streamer with a better DAC ( Blue node for example )
@agteresnet
@agteresnet Жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this test, very informative. In the past, you have reviewed a number of Allo brand products. I was wondering if you have experience with their linear power supply, the Shanti.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
I didn’t do testing with the shanti
@sird_p8139
@sird_p8139 Жыл бұрын
to power the WiiM Pro Plus, which has a usb type C input, im thinking to get the SBooster BOTW P&P ECO MKII 5-6V .. can anyone point me to a adapter/converter to USB type C ?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
sBooster can deliver a converter, I think.
@feelfreetodeviate
@feelfreetodeviate Жыл бұрын
Hi Hans. Thanks for doing what you do. Do you (or anyone else in the comments) have any experience comparing the benefits of the original ifi ipower supply with the version 2? I have a few of the original ones in the house, and I'm curious if there is a significant difference.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Anyone?
@franck-s7w
@franck-s7w Ай бұрын
Que pensez vous de allo shanti allimentation? merci
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Ай бұрын
It’s good for the money
@totoloope
@totoloope 2 ай бұрын
Do you think blusound 2021 is better than pro+ S booster ? Because there is more second hand afordable Price and look less bulky. Thanks you
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 ай бұрын
Not really
@briantooze3415
@briantooze3415 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Hans, this exactly the information I have been searching for.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@timtanner8658
@timtanner8658 3 ай бұрын
Is there a power supply upgrade that would work for the wiim ultra?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 ай бұрын
Sure. See my playlist:kzbin.info/aero/PLMbsmejHnP8EuzEYn08rMXG94UaJamd91. All 5 volt models will work but the quality of the power supply influences the sound quality.
@brunosnoeck6573
@brunosnoeck6573 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I have the Furutech ADL GT40 DAC, which I'm still enjoying very much, and am looking to upgrade my power supply. The problem is that I cannot find a 9V AC output power supply. All premium power supplies seem to be DC output only. Can anyone help me? Thank you in advance!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
I can't. Sorry.
@Forollo9210
@Forollo9210 Жыл бұрын
How does voltage drop normally affect digital equipment and its sound quality? Many LPS struggle keeping the voltage when current increase which leads me to think some digital devices are not so happy with LPS on them.
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street Жыл бұрын
They need a bigger transformer if maintaing voltage is a problem. It seems the lps might not be the correct one to use. If you account for the voltage drop, or build a lps with a better regulator and bigger transformer, I see very little down side to using a lps.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
I misused the power supplies by putting on a bigger load and thus demanding more current than they can deliver according to their specs.
@leondeswart
@leondeswart Жыл бұрын
Ik heb een elac music server ds-s101 welke je in het verleden getest hebt. Zou een update met bv de sboaster zinvol zijn of is de bijgeleverde voeding al van een goede kwaliteit?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Een sBooster is zeker zinnig wanneer de Elac direct op jouw stereo is aangesloten.
@leondeswart
@leondeswart Жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Maakt het dan verschil of je de analoge of digitale uitgang gebruikt?
@mjmonjure
@mjmonjure 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like the Eversolo A8 is a very good solution with both linear and switching PS’s.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 10 ай бұрын
The A8 is a great choice
@KimWentworth-y8e
@KimWentworth-y8e 9 ай бұрын
Can you provide a link to Amazon to purchase them.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 9 ай бұрын
Go to Amazon and search for Wiim pro plus
@KimWentworth-y8e
@KimWentworth-y8e 9 ай бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannelI did but It does not tell you what power supply to use. I purchased the Win Pro plus from Amazon.
@benwilliamson3116
@benwilliamson3116 4 ай бұрын
Can these power supplies be used for the wiim ultra.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 ай бұрын
If Wiim Ultra has a USB C power connector, they can.
@NickRamsey28
@NickRamsey28 11 ай бұрын
which power supply would you recommend for Mojo2, if any?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 11 ай бұрын
You can run it on batteries of course. Otherwise I would use an iFi iPower2.
@NickRamsey28
@NickRamsey28 11 ай бұрын
thanks@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@francescopieri3413
@francescopieri3413 7 ай бұрын
hello, thanks for your interesting video. I'm lookin for an upgrade for my wiim pro power supply. it comes with a 5V 2A power supply. I found an Ifi Power 2 that's 9V 2A. is it ok for my Wiim Pro? thank you for your reply
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 ай бұрын
No, you need the 5 volt version of the iFi iPower2
@francescopieri3413
@francescopieri3413 7 ай бұрын
thank you so much😊
@joeguckin4641
@joeguckin4641 Жыл бұрын
Hi does the power supply make a difference if your using the wiim pro as a streamer only thank you for your input
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Yes it does
@2005fan
@2005fan Жыл бұрын
Does any tried USB power bank? I assume it is clean power from battery.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Batteries and power banks are slow in delivering current and are noisy.
@tz7813
@tz7813 Жыл бұрын
Can the WiiM Pro+ be powered from a power bank? Anyone tried, and if so what is the real world power consumption?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Yes it can. But it probably isn’t a sound improvement.
@ioannisthpapanagiotou9477
@ioannisthpapanagiotou9477 11 ай бұрын
I agree sir,you are right i tried a 5v/2amp. Power bank to my wiim pro and it isn't worth it at all Power banks i think have a different job to do..
@grossi6330
@grossi6330 9 ай бұрын
you remind me of my professor who taught microeconomic analysis and policy. He was miserable.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 9 ай бұрын
Thank you very much
@marcohermans3207
@marcohermans3207 6 күн бұрын
You're very knowledgeable. First I was a guy that thought power is power. I was wrong. Today I tested the new bluesound Nano with a powerbank that I used for my phone to test if there was a difference . Night and day difference. Exactly the differences you described but a battery is not a permanent solution. Now the search goes on for a dedicated power supply.... But which one? I want at least the SQ of the powerbank. Thanks for this great video.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 күн бұрын
Great to hear!
@masudkabir9214
@masudkabir9214 6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 ай бұрын
No problem
@ericlo6370
@ericlo6370 5 ай бұрын
Great posts! Thanks for sharing your honest views. I'm using the iFi Power X and is happy with it but looking at upgrade to a high grade LPS which Plixir , SBooster and Farad are the ones I'm interested. Seems like SBooster is sthg that I would take a seriosu audition. Cheers
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 ай бұрын
👍🏼
@ebernardr
@ebernardr 6 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to taste with a power bank.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 ай бұрын
No, it isn’t. Power banks are slow and noisy
@maxadams1298
@maxadams1298 Жыл бұрын
In principle you prefer a well implemented switched mode power supply for a DAC-less streamer. But in this case you prefer a well implemented linear power supply for the Wiim.
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street Жыл бұрын
That's not a dacless streamer
@maxadams1298
@maxadams1298 Жыл бұрын
Aha@@Pete.across.the.street I stand corrected. It's the Wiim pro plus streamer Dac !
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
😁
@sydneybird116
@sydneybird116 Жыл бұрын
This is the gist of this review, Hans' test was more of a review of the power being supplied to the WiiM Pro+'s DAC than the digital side. I would have liked to see a comparison of the power supplies on the quality of the digital signal feeding his DAC, although Hans said it is not critical.
@nonchalantd
@nonchalantd Жыл бұрын
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
🙏🏻
@timber715
@timber715 10 ай бұрын
I have a 9v lps... Would that work for the wiim pro plus without issues?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 10 ай бұрын
No, it needs 5 volts.
@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr
@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr Жыл бұрын
Hi Hans, just in case you didn’t know, your website is not working
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
I know.
@Audiodreamer192-24
@Audiodreamer192-24 Жыл бұрын
🙏🔈🔈
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@BoRerunn
@BoRerunn Ай бұрын
Can I just buy a line conditioner instead of a standalone power supply
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Ай бұрын
A line conditioner does not convert grid AC voltage to a low DC voltage. So: no.
@uribar-ner5055
@uribar-ner5055 Жыл бұрын
At your age, you suffer from severe hearing loss. How can then you claim hearing al these nuances of sound? How can you be sure that all this that you claim hearing is just your imagination?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
You might want to watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKmpdKGQatV1ppY
@Riegholt
@Riegholt Жыл бұрын
Bedankt
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
you too
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