Five Reasons Why The Omega Speedmaster Sedna Beats The Rolex Daytona Everose!

[@UnknownUser_10]

Rolex is for people who want a status symbol and Omega for the people who care about mechanics and are passionate watch lovers

[@js002003]

Very accurate. There are watch people who do care about rolex but a lot of the rolex buyers are just chasing clout. They wouldn't realize that Omega is equally great watch and almost as well respected as rolex in the watch community.

[@Ggma8989]

Omega is for the people rejected from the Rolex AD thus unworthy

[@UnknownUser_10]

@@Ggma8989 Nah, Omega is cooler imo. Rolex has some nice models too, but Omega is more fascinating to me.

[@10thMorales]

Omega Speedmaster Professional went to the Moon. Rolex Oyster Perpetual Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified Cosmograph Daytona went to Florida.😏

[@UnknownUser_10]

@@10thMorales 😁

[@fez877]

Availability is BS. Rolex made close to a million watches annually. I would guess that 3/4 of it is sitting on the grey dealer shelves, sold to them by the courtesy of the ADs

[@loltanios]

You don't think demand for Rolex exceeds a million watches annually? I don't know if Rolex purposefully makes fewer than demand but this is the only reason for availability issues.

[@djjr9803]

The reasons is demand. Rolex manufactures in a few sites in Switzerland. Their footprint cannot keep up with worldwide demand. 10-15 years ago China wasn't a market for luxury watches. Now it is a huge market and Rolex never expanded their production accordingly. So while they make a million (all models, by the way) you are looking at potential buyers a factor of 10 more than their production. That's why prices have been skyrocketing.

[@dimitriostsiganis]

The Speedmaster is a much more elegant design and truly successful. It stood the test of time and looks contemporary as much as it looks vintage. The Daytona is pretty (I like it) but its a dated postmodernist design of the 80s and I will never understand why people appreciate it so much.

[@TurnRiver]

brand equity and value appreciation

[@dimitriostsiganis]

@@TurnRiver Thanks, I'm talking about the design though.

[@TurnRiver]

@@dimitriostsiganis what I'm trying to say is that it has less to do with the design and more to do with brand equity and resale value. Back in the 80s the speedmaster was more popular while the daytona wasnt

[@ShamrockRagEll]

First you have to beg your AD to spend thousands of Euros on a Rolex and if you ever get it, you get robbed. A shame, as I do like the Daytona. Anyhow, glad I like the speedy better no matter the brand situation ;)

[@דןשלמה-ו7נ]

Omega is a great brand is about time people will change their minds...😀

[@juanj.3549]

This Sedna Gold is a stunner. Technically superior than the Daytona.

[@BobbyDazzler888]

Yeah, manual wind with knowing how much power reserve you have.

[@Champsterz]

@@BobbyDazzler888 yea, why don't they give power reserve on the back like a GS.

[@wolper2155]

I like both Watches. They are so Different. It is like Ferrari and Lamborghini.

[@laurencefahey3132]

Iv just purchased my first omega speedmaster, moonshine gold , with the gold dial , had sleepless nights deciding on which dial , green or gold . Love them both but eventually went for the more retro gold dial as everyone is going green . I still love Rolex but feel they have lost control of their distribution process . So thank you omega for treating me like a vip customer and not laugh at me as I leave the dealership .

[@15harry1561]

Great purchase, wear it in good health.

[@laurencefahey3132]

@@15harry1561 thank you Harry , I’m even more pleased I paid my deposit and secured the price with the dealer who gave me a 10% discount because I subscribe to their website as the watch is now 35k retail and I got it for 29k , just makes it feel much better knowing I’ve got a bargain as well, but it is a watch I will keep forever and pass on to my son

[@followyourpassion8378]

The Panda in Moonshine is a great choice and I would consider this particular model superior to the corresponding Daytona.

[@alexanderstefanov6474]

I'm also considering a moonshine gold speedmaster and also don't know which one I prefer, the Sedona is also really tempting because they're available at a substantial discount

[@followyourpassion8378]

@@alexanderstefanov6474 In my opinion, yellow gold is the way forward. But, I can relate to the pull of a nice/heavy discount.

[@byronspencer-williams5126]

I went into the same Rolex boutique in a Schiphol airport and he had one 36mm ladies date just. I asked if he has anything else and he frowned at me and didn’t say a word! I laughed and said “pointless you even being here and open really, it’s getting pretty pathetic”

[@UnknownUser_10]

What I really like about the Omega is how thin it looks considering it’s a chronograph. This watch looks great at the wrist.

[@michaelbishop9157]

always amazes me how Omega get it right here and then produce such thick and chunky watches in their other ranges

[@hathaway.1166]

@@michaelbishop9157 let’s hope they gonna thin down all of their watches in a few years😂 them thicc lol

[@i1p2p3o4c5a6m7p9o9]

Daytona is thinner than Moowatch and it's an automatic chronograph

[@UnknownUser_10]

@@i1p2p3o4c5a6m7p9o9 Daytona is thicker. I have compared both.

[@i1p2p3o4c5a6m7p9o9]

@@UnknownUser_10 If you do a search online you'll see that Daytona is 12mm and Moonwatch (sapphire) 13mm....

[@MyZippy13]

I think Rolex is slowly damaging its brand. People are fed up with all the BS now and are looking at other brands. I feel there will be a sudden influx of Rolex watches entering the ad’s because of this backlog of nothing. By which time people would have purchased other brands and then the prices will drop on the grey market. The grey dealers will have to lower their prices when the stores start getting stock again.

[@stuartclubb4302]

Indeed, there's more than an air of douche about Rolex these days.

[@neelsengupta662]

Omega every time!!!

[@dobie_bellaruby]

Omega each and everytime. Love my Moonshine Gold Apollo 11

[@komofpv9301]

Rolex is screaming: LOOK AT ME Omega is saying: I know something about watches, no matter the price. Change my mind.

[@Ggma8989]

Rolex Daytona is worth more than the moon watch

[@louisbrandt5386]

It is only worth what you are willing to pay and if you are buying a “watch” rather than “hype-token” you are an idiot if you pay more for a Rolex than pretty much any Onega.

[@torontowatches9709]

Omega is trying to be Rolex, they never will be, Rolex makes better watches, has far superior precious metals and their watches are nice and thin.

[@adrianobanak2824]

Nothing comes close to the bracelet of 2021 Moonwatch....gold, steel, it doesn't matter.

[@annaolesinska4118]

Omega is the best

[@BobLorrimer]

I enjoyed this - I love the visible movement of the Omega and I am coming around to their marketing strategy which has more integrity than the current drip feed of Rolex products. (I cannot claim to have first hand experience of attempting to buy a Rolex). Personally, for some reason, I am prejudiced against the Rolex cyclops date windows. For Gold, I lean toward Cartier myself but your Omega Moonshine gold edition is just extraordinary. It might be an idea to have your table top covered with an appropriately soft surface - then your Viewers will not flinch when you bang your 25K wristwatch against it!

[@FratelloMagazine]

Thanks for your comment :-). Thanks for the tip on the soft surface. We're careful and make sure the watches go back unharmed :-). We will see if we can get a nice tray though.

[@tyngshen28]

2:00 which "cheap quartz chronograph movements" have subdial placements like that i wonder?

[@FratelloMagazine]

A bit of exxageration of course, but they often have this weird placement of subdials and not aligned with the center pinion.

[@audemarspiguet4237]

I feel like the thing that annoys most people is the situation surrounding Rolex watches (both at ADs and secondary market). As products their watches aren’t bad at all and they’re quite sturdy, but having to “convince” your AD that you’re worthy of a Rolex is just wrong and drives people towards grey market and potentially fake watches. The sad thing is that other brands, notably AP and Richard Mille, are starting to use their “hot models” as bargaining chips to sell you a Code 11.59, etc.

[@FratelloMagazine]

They had a good example. Rolex used to do the same with their sports models. Buy a Day-Date at full retail and they will “allow” you to purchase a sports watch.

[@audemarspiguet4237]

@@FratelloMagazine agree. There’s no argument that the strategy worked in making their products more desirable but it really set a bad example for others to follow. In the end, it seems that genuine collectors and enthusiasts lose out most.

[@FratelloMagazine]

@@audemarspiguet4237 Agreed!

[@richardharris3121]

This is the reason i choose omega over rolex.

[@greaterbayareahero1401]

The Code 11.59 is the worst watch you can get. Whatever you do don't buy it. It's a watch you cannot get rid of even at 30% of the RRP.

[@ruben619448]

The power reserve for the new omega is actually around 65 hours. I’ve tested mine 3 times and I’ve hit 64, 65, and 65 hours

[@stefanogoldoni5059]

Do you think it's best to wind it every day or every other day?

[@ruben619448]

@@stefanogoldoni5059 I don't know what is best for the watch but i normally wind it every other day.

[@anthonymcphee8207]

Great honest review thanks guys

[@SuperWhofan1]

So bias toward Omega. Love it!

[@UnknownUser_10]

Same!

[@CluelessWatchCollector]

Availablity: This Daytona is easy available. The prices to my understanding very close and s good AD will easily give you a 1-5 % discount if youre a frequent client. I agree with you only one the design. I.think the omega is more mature.

[@FratelloMagazine]

Not anymore, those discounts. However, we compare only retail prices.

[@benjameshodges]

The Everose Daytona for me. With Cerachrom bezel on Oysterflex.

[@fizzleshizzle8314]

YUCK. rubber on Rolex? You have no taste.

[@KarinaKwiatkowska]

I need to remove you from friends on facebook and instagram ;) obviously it'a a joke

[@Man00ta]

Aesthetically and in terms of build quality, the new Speedmaster Moonwatch definitely can stand its own against the Daytona. But as an owner of a new 3861 Speedy I must admit: in terms of wearing comfort it just falls behind any Rolex by a huge margin. It's just a fact and also concerns other Omega Models. As nice as the Bracelet of the new 3861 is, its just not that comfortable it could be, if they made the inside of the bracelet more ergonomic.

[@truxton1000]

Regardless how great, impressive and good these gold watches are, the steel 321 versions Speedies from the 60's TRUMP everything.

[@petemorbius3936]

please review the aqua terra small seconds in gold & rubber strap

[@kevinleighuk]

Thanks for another enjoyable review. I have become a real Omega fan over the last few years. Aside from design, movement and quality, the boutique treats me nicely and watches are available, sometimes after a wait for special editions. I prefer the gold dial version with black sub dials as it’s more legible and more striking. My favourite is the 50th anniversary with its red bezel and special caseback details. I agree about the risk of being robbed. Rolex has lost its way. It was an aspirational luxury item once. To many it remains so. But it’s become aped and faked and on the arms of people who inspire no one. The grey market hyped prices and empty ADs is a complete turn off.

[@Niro_Hero]

But the Rolex won’t tank in value, say the idiots who buy watches as investments. Enjoy paying twice the price for Rolex watch on the gray market. Once supply meets demand(which will happen after Covid) you’ll lose money.

[@truxton1000]

Well in this case Speedmasters are keeping good value, and I predict the vintage 321's will be as good investments as any Rolex. Not many were made, and prices are still not too insane, but they might be in the future...

[@LP-rc4oz]

Please do more of a comparison video of the Apollo Moonshine Speedmaster to the Sedna Speedmaster. I’d like to see more images of of the two compared to each other.

[@djona1000]

Seconded.

[@socalwatchaddict]

I own both these watches. Push the pushers and you can see the Daytona is a better movement. The counter seconds hand doesn't jump when you click it. The daytona also has a better power reserve.

[@bgandjsco1]

The Speedmaster looks better and has more history

[@ShashankD137]

Why does the Daytona have cosmograph on the dial ? What's the story behind that

[@Sams911]

if the omega had the Cal 321 movement they put in the Ed White, with the column wheel chronograph, it would indeed be objectively better.. The Rolex has a superior movement.

[@followyourpassion8378]

1. For a (gentle)man's watch: yellow gold, never rose or red 2. For a mass produced full gold watch, a solid case back is always preferable 3. Rolex AD availability is becoming significantly better (in 07/2022 and should not be part of the argument anyway) 4. Omega has increased MSRP of their full gold Speedmasters to 40k €. A Daytona is actually "cheaper" with 35k 5. Nevertheless, my choice was the Speedmaster 57 in yellow gold

[@louisbrandt5386]

@followyourpassion - 1. A gentleman makes his own choice as he has a mind of his own. 2. For a mass produced full gold watch, a solid case back is always preferable - yes, if you don’t want to see the movement you paid all that money for (what is the point??). If it has a nice movement with sone decoration then show it off, it adds a dimension of enjoyment to the piece which Rolex does not offer. 3. Rolex AD availability is becoming significantly better (in 07/2022 and should not be part of the argument anyway). We are talking about perhaps buying one of these aren’t we? Availability is very relevant - walk into an AD and try and buy a Daytona without silly demeaning games, if you want one. 4. Omega has increased MSRP of their full gold Speedmasters to 40k €. A Daytona is actually "cheaper" with 35k Irrelevant as Rolexes normally trade above retail these days due to flippers and ignorant casuals. 5. Nevertheless, my choice was the Speedmaster 57 in yellow gold - great choice, enjoy in good health.

[@followyourpassion8378]

@@louisbrandt5386 1. + 2. touché. Nicely put. 2. small addition. With mass produced pm watches (such as Omega or Rolex), you are really paying for the gold content ( around 200gr gold 750), not the movement. Please check the brutto list price to production cost ratio. Different story with Lange or PP, even JLC, where I like to see a movement. 3. Just now went into an AD and bought a SD43, no fuss: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooa1inykjNWHac0 Believe me, when I say, ADs always have and had professional models in the back. 4. My point is, that steel Omegas have a considerably lower MSRP than their Rolex counterparts (see video mentioned under 3.), while the tt or pm ones do not. Also, pm Rolexes in general won't be trading over MSRP much longer. Check grey dealer buying prices. 5. the YG Speedmaster 57 has a RG rotor, that shows they are cutting costs. Same with YG Aqua Terras, except for the Goldfinger watch, which truely is an exclusive piece. Typical for mass produced premium watches, not for luxury. Still like it, though 🙂 And for understanding the Rolex market, check this out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXybe4CkmJZ1fq8

[@kurtklimisch7498]

LOL -“solid case back on a gold watch” - A Lange, JLC, Patek, VC all disagree.

[@followyourpassion8378]

@@kurtklimisch7498 Well, I said for a mass produced gold watch aka Rolex, Omega and the likes, it is preferable. I wouldn't call Lange mass produced.

[@nathann_z4063]

My opinion the gold from ROLEX seems brighter and grand. But it’s for the outlook only.The movement and history on omega never doubted.what do you guys think

[@geno816]

The omega is rose gold. The rolex is not.

[@petemorbius3936]

which is heavier?

[@CaptCanuck4444]

I liked your thoughtful point about having respect and sensitivity when you travel to other countries. Even if people aren't out to rob you, wearing conspicuous wealth on one's wrist in a place where people are just struggling to survive is in poor tasted. Visiting South Africa a few years ago, i purchased a GShock specifically to wear for that trip, for that reason.

[@frankv7068]

Sorry but that Daytona and others look so much fancier and classy on women. Omega looks more of a mens watch

[@DK007xXx]

do you think moonshine speedmaster will maintain its value well? or even increase , so far seems droping ,

[@FratelloMagazine]

Hmmm, mine only increased in value since I bought it.

[@VicharB]

If I had the opportunity I'd go for white gold Speedy.

[@15harry1561]

Would be my pick too, so under the radar 👌

[@joeymarcin2410]

The full gold models don't have a Ceramic bezel yet

[@JohnTodd949]

They are both amazing watches and different enough to own both

[@petemorbius3936]

please review the new speedmaster in moonshine + rubber strap

[@FratelloMagazine]

Of course we will.

[@petemorbius3936]

@@FratelloMagazine tqvm

[@ronintheamazon1492]

I know it is popular to hate on Rolex, but being honest almost everything about the Rolex is superior to the Omega ( I own a 3861 but ss sapphire sandwich ) Omega bracelet not as structurally integral + no quick adjustment. The links are also rounded so the watch doesn’t freely slide on your wrist like the Rolex’s flat inner links. The dimensions - The Daytona is over 1mm thiner despite being automatic and with a column wheel and a vertical clutch to boot. Actuating the Chronograph is night and day with the Daytona Water resistance - The omega has half the water resistance at just 50M and the brand themselves don’t even recommend bringing the watch for surface swimming. Accuracy - The 3861 ( at least mine) , runs at about + 5 compared to most Rolex’s now staying at +-2 The bezel - There is no reason to have an aluminum bezel on any speedmaster besides maybe the hesalite for full originality. Residual value - I don’t even need to go there. The Omega is wonderful and I wish it was better than Rolex, but for now it sure as hell isn’t Update: The 3861 speedmasters now all have quick adjustment.

[@greaterbayareahero1401]

I agree I think there are 2 things which bothers me as a watch collector, if Omega makes their speedmaster have 5 days power reserve and over 10 bar water resistance it would outsell the Daytona in a flash.

[@louisbrandt5386]

@GreaterBayArea Hero - Unfortunately, I don’t believe the Omegas would be more desirable than Rolex with extra features. Omega already makes better watches than Rolex for the most part imo so it has little to do with that for a lot of buyers. It is surely more about ignorance and “image” for the overwhelming majority of Rolex buyers. Most people in the market for a luxury watch at that price point know little if anything about watches and in many cases aren’t interested to know. All they want is to buy a watch to flex, they have heard about Rolex (who hasn’t?), wrongly think it is the best and then buy the things like kids in a sweet shop. With so much skin in the game or having saved all those pennies to buy a watch they cannot really afford they then spend time on the internet trying to validate their ignorant decisions. Want a beautiful watch with an almost unmatchable history/pedigree get an Omega, want an “image” (for better or worse) get a Rolex.

[@louisbrandt5386]

I think a good example of people blithely following Rolex and their motivational cognition in relation thereto is the GS spring drive. Tell me with a straight face that those would not be sold out now if they had Rolex on the dial and would not be hailed as the greatest development in watchmaking period?? Fanboys of the brand get excited over a 1mm case increment or a bezel colour change which is quite sad really, particularly when these same people dismiss or deride superior achievements/offerings from alternative brands with more impressive history and greater historical contributions in the field..

[@bentleygt3716]

my goodness. the OMEGA is super hot and GORGEOUS. i'll take that any day. i have never cared for the Daytona. ( that last part when you mentioned a guy was killed, then to find out it was a fake Rolex. it crushed me. very sad ).. Thank you great review.

[@phmwu7368]

The 1970s are over... who still wears a Gold wristwatch ? Then again... de gustibus non est disputandum

[@FratelloMagazine]

Gold watches non olet.

[@metro2171]

Better yes but will it hold its value , as you step out the Ad half of your value is gone

[@karimafeiche]

You should also add that the amount of replica Rolex watches on the market and private ownership makes it far less attractive to own one. In fact this is the main reasons why I’m so reluctant to buy one even from an AD

[@Wonky_ties]

Yes, yes, yes and yes!!!!

[@Wonky_ties]

It’s also really great to see Karina in the fratello content now as well!

[@P1ea5eho1d]

To me a gold Dayton has always looked like a cheap gold Nikon watch

[@weisseadler]

Clearly the Speedy makes the difference... there is no doubt...

[@MadMan-cp6tn]

I think those are two completely different watches. In general this Omega vs. Rolex game is rather dull.

[@basselamjad958]

The Chrono chime looks even better than this speedy and the most luxurious looking one ever

[@giovannibucio]

I love OMEGA better you just simply get more over rolex.

[@geno816]

I will have that speedmaster.

[@niraviv5]

great...now those that have the Daytonas have been robbed because you haven't told them at the beginning of the video ;)

[@alexsalvador3370]

Just wondering in spite of everything you said, which I think is sensible, most people would go after Rolex even for triple the amount. If omega is better than Rolex, then maybe there are doing something wrong. Just saying..

[@FratelloMagazine]

Perhaps people buy into a brand name ;-)

[@alexsalvador3370]

Yeah I guess so, great video though. In another issue, I know JLc Is a top watchmaker, but what do you think of It as a brand, I am planning to buy a reverso

[@FratelloMagazine]

@@alexsalvador3370 Buy whatever you like best! JLC is a nice manufacture and our manufacture visits to them always have been impressive. It is just a matter of style. If I'd be in the market for a rectangular watch I'd go 100% Reverso.

[@808Stevie]

Omega is available because no one is buying them new. Retailers in Europe are advertising 20% off all Omegas in stock. This gold speedmaster retails for 42k new and used 25k full set. If you want any Omega buy it used, you’ll be thankful you did. The only Omega’s that retain any value are limited editions or low production like 321, silver snoopy. Omega is marketing these through scarcity to keep demand high. Whereas Rolex demand is high and the watches are scarce due to demand. I love both brands and own both. This is just the truth of the matter.

[@CluelessWatchCollector]

RJ: If it's really better, you only need one reason :).

[@FratelloMagazine]

What’s the fun in that?

[@jackominty3633]

OK, so to summarise... 1. Design is arguably better (yet people want to buy the Daytona in MUCH larger numbers, so let's just say it's ....subjective). 2. Availability: Daytona MUCH more popular 3. Price: Daytona MUCH more valuable 4. Movement: Horses for courses, but let's be honest, Rolex also make robust workhorses. 5. Danger: Daytona MUCH more recognized (that's part of the appeal - let's not lie), and more VALUABLE. I'll add one more... 6. Investment: I would be much more comfortable joining a waitlist for the Daytona, knowing that when it is allocated ...my money is SAFE. Too impatient? Buy the Daytona on secondary market while you wait for your allocation - then sell the first, and you will likely get all your money back. Objectively, the Sedna is the Daytona's bitch. On a more serious note, you forgot to address the size. The Daytona is SMALL if you have a 7+inch wrist. In fact, it's become something of a unisex watch. Too small for me, with my 8 inch wrist.

[@robert-janbroer8936]

There’s a lot of assumptions in your summary, but if it works for you, I’d say get the Daytona! It sounds like it’s the watch you need.

[@jackominty3633]

@@robert-janbroer8936 Yeah, well you didn't read to the end. It's too small.

[@robert-janbroer8936]

@@jackominty3633 I don’t necessarily agree it is too small. But if you prefer a bigger watch, the Daytona is not for you then.

[@jackominty3633]

​@@robert-janbroer8936 Dear God! I don't prefer a "Bigger Watch" - I have an EIGHT INCH WRIST. That's 20 CENTIMETERS . That's twice you have replied without having absorbed anything I've said beyond what you wanted to see. 40mm is CLEARLY fine for lots of people with more average sized wrists (and many girls!) - and it's well known that the Daytona wears quite small for it's size. This is why it is probably the most wanted watch in the world (sorry Omega). But NOT for a big guy like me. Therefore the Sedna would be a better fit for me, but I don't fancy either of them. I do like the Speedmaster, but not a gold one. Luckily, I am not desperate to get any watch, as I have my two favorites already. Polar Rolex Explorer II for daily wear, and AP 15500 (blue!) for special days. I have other nice watches, but these are the two I would save from a burning house ...before running back to try and save my kids. In short, I don't really care for either of these watches, so I am capable of being objective in my comments. Can you say the same thing? Looking at your channel contents, I would say that you are very biased.

[@robert-janbroer8936]

@@jackominty3633 I read your message well, but I am only saying 40mm would not trouble me if I had 20 centimeter wrists (I have 19cm wrists and I don’t mind wearing my 36mm Day-Date and Datejust). Your comment about me being biased is not very relevant, especially not for you. Again, you should just buy and wear what you like, that’s all I am saying. No need to get annoyed (over nothing). I have and have had other watches than Speedmasters (including a number of Rolex and AP RO watches), I just happen to collect Speedmasters, it doesn’t mean I am not interested or do not own other watches 🤷🏻‍♂️ Anyway, thanks for your comment, and enjoy your nice watch collection.

[@robynsjp]

145.012-67 on my wrist so obviously I go for that Sedna Speed, even if it's not a 321 - still a mighty steel 321 vintage is the ultimate. Daytona is too luxury, quite nice on a female wrist at a party.

[@jacobpfeuffer962]

Issue I have is spending 30K on a gold Omega and if you ever want to sell be lucky to get half your money back.

[@robert-janbroer8936]

You might want to revise that statement. The Moonshine model from 2019 is currently fetching over 40K (some are towards 55K) while the retail price was €32K.

[@jacobpfeuffer962]

@@robert-janbroer8936 good to know not the usual gold Omega scenario. I do love it and that is a plus. Not in this to make money but don’t like taking huge loses if I ever want to sell.

[@AG-nj3ky]

i really don't like either two. Designwise the daytona has some issues which i can't overlook. The speedmaster is nice, I think the dial needs more contrast to match with gold. Also for me there is only one way to go with gold and thats polished. Gold is for showing not for hiding it under a brushed finished.

[@Visia-w3h]

Support Omega

[@torbenholm9200]

Speedy for me please.

[@iconicetiquette4546]

I think the watch that went to the moon or the watch people aspire to . I will let you decide 😀

[@LinusFeynstein]

Rolex is better under water, in case youmwant to dive into a swimming pool without leaving it off your wrist

[@torontowatches9709]

Omega putting the Presi Homage bracelet on their watches and copying every combo of color's is hilarious.

[@michaelguay5881]

The one thing is the daytona is automatic which for me is important personally

[@JonathanMartinez-gs7pr]

Found this comment really insightful. I prefer Omega over Rolex personally. That said, Mechanical watches aren't for everyone. Automatic is alot more practical for everyday use.

[@ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available]

​@@JonathanMartinez-gs7prThe only thing is it abstracts the view of the movement, which doesn't matter for Daytona as it's solid case back.

[@dk8797]

I own Sedna Gold Moonwatch and it is an amazing watch, but you are so biased and so wrong about Rolex. I love Omega and I don't have to hate on Rolex, I love them both. Daytona has its perks, especially the caliber 4130, which is the best automatic chronograph in the world. The reason why Rolex is not available is because the demand for Rolex is probably 20 times higher than for Omega. Today even platinum Day-Dates are selling for premium and just 2 years ago pre-owned platinum Day-Dates were selling for less than of half retail. Omega is available because the demands is not there, which I think is a good thing, because I just walked into the boutique and bought my new Speedy Sedna gold and I even got a very decent discount. Jaquet Droz is also available in watch stores, it means only one thing, no demand... Now as the owner of Sedna gold Moonwatch, I love the watch, but I don't understand Omega. Why didn't they make a simple 1-2mm quick adjustment on the bracelet? Why is the bezel not from ceramic like on the Moonshine anniversary piece? Why is the watch delivered without a wallet for the warranty cards? All these things are peanuts in costs, but completely terrible for the premium buying experience. Omega unfortunately has a terrible network of ADs, it is so bad it's not even worth mentioning....I think Omega can really become a real competition to Rolex, but they need to stop employing people who lick their balls and get people who give them sold and hard critiques so they can improve. Your bias review didn't do any favour to Omega. BTW, Rose Gold Daytona 116505 looks best with baguettes dial and now with the new meteorite dial and I think very soon Rolex will bring ceramic bezel to the remaining Daytona line-up (116505, 508, 509 and 523)... The fact that sundials are not aligned is a tiny tiny issue, Patek has the same "issue" with much higher complications like 5270, but this is due to the design of the caliber and the size of the dial. If Rolex would move up Daytona to 41mm those subdials would be be aligned (maybe that's what will happen), but in 2025 for the 60 anniversary.

[@nagakanth]

Well said

[@louisbrandt5386]

@D K why do you say the 4130 is the best auto chronograph in the world - is that what the salesman told you?

[@sodapop1999]

Agree

[@dgarrido3381]

Speedmaster Sedna is awesome. Daytona movement is ok, but it is not comparable to 3861. RJ review vintage seamaster chronograph cal 321 or article in fratello.

[@ziyanzhang1735]

Daytona wears better. Especially on smaller wrists.

[@jaysp1910]

For me the Daytona mey be classic but fir me the look is played out. Taking the Speedie all day long.

[@torontowatches9709]

FUN FACT- Most Omega owners always compare to Rolex, most Rolex owners don't care about your wrist watch.

[@robert-janbroer8936]

And often not even about their own 😂

[@AAndrews1968]

Omega v. Rolex. The watch that landed on the moon, versus the watch that blew up failing to get there.....

[@stewester]

But then blew up on Instagram 50 years later ;)

[@UnknownUser_10]

Omega‘s history is so fantastic and the Speedmaster looks so great

[@collectorfrombhutan]

Sedna Gold over Daytona

[@nothere603]

If I had the cash, I’d want both 😂

[@maxb5947]

What watch is the pretty young lady wearing on her wrist? I'm really curious lol

[@FratelloMagazine]

A Speedmaster 38mm

[@TwentyOne_Five]

She’s charming

[@michaelbishop9157]

I love the Speedmaster but the bracelet is horrible to me.

[@motokult]

I find a comparison between these two models ridiculous. They represent something completely different. But if you've already started, here's my antithesis. What speaks against the Speedmaster: consistent model policy of the Daytona. The more attractive movement, 44 jewels against 27 jewels. Flatter design. Better workmanship. Higher value retention. No matter where in the world, in an emergency can be sold faster without major losses. No shareholders in the background diluting the brand. cooler image. Nevertheless, I really like the Speedmaster and I will buy the new model soon. Cheers

[@robert-janbroer8936]

A better workmanship of what? Not sure I agree. Also, more jewels doesn’t equal a better movement. It can also be a construction issue, that it simply requires more jewels. To each his or her own. Resale retention is only important if you can’t afford such a watch ;-)

[@djjr9803]

I am sorry, guys, but these reasons are fake reasons. You cannot tell me that you are going to pay the same amount or more for a gold speedmaster. You have both in your hands and you must admit that the sheer physical dominance and presence of the Daytona and Rolex version of rosegold trumps the Omega by far.

[@FratelloMagazine]

Hmmm, no it doesn't. And we own a few gold Speedmasters here.

[@djjr9803]

@@FratelloMagazine RJ, Karina, the 40mm size and 12mm or so height of the Daytona are timeless measurements for a dress(ier) watch in full gold. I bet you that the Daytona would even fit Karina while the Speedmaster would simply be too big. With these timeless measurements plus an Oysterbracelet that is neither too sporty nor too dressy Rolex is able to create a sportier stainless steel version of the Daytona as well as dressier watch versions in white, yellow and everose gold. On top of that you get a variety of dial versions on the full gold Daytonas that caters to every possible taste a watch collector and wearer may have when looking for a dressier watch in precious metals. What do you get from Omega ? 1 full gold version (I am ignoring the Canopa gold version because it is even 10k more expensive) with the same basic setup as the stainless steel Speedmaster but a significantly less eligible dial. It is basically a beefed up sports watch at too big dimensions trying to be dressier by using precious metal. It just doesn't work and fit together. And I simply cannot believe that a watch fan that has 40k Euro to spend would prefer a full gold Speedmaster over a Daytona. No way (of course, there are exceptions but I am sure they are very rare).

[@FratelloMagazine]

@@djjr9803 Well, you should just buy what YOU like best! If that’s the gold Daytona, do it! You don’t have to convince us otherwise :) We bought the gold Speedmaster instead, simply because we love it more.

[@george-ng5gj]

I went into an omega boutique to buy or at least put a deposit on a Sedna gold speedmaster. The salesperson said I could only get on the list it if I spent $100k at the boutique. I’m good.

[@goodlifebdg]

Better pick maybe, but it does not make you feel on top of the world. Daytona does this for much more people, my guess

[@UnknownUser_10]

Daytona is for people who care about status and Omega for people who care about watches and history

[@DarthMuffin007]

It isn’t Sedna gold…just sayin

[@torontowatches9709]

Availability doesn't make it a better watch, more people love the Daytona, the proportions and wear WR area better in every way. Price of the Omega being low also taking 40 percent hit soon as you wear it, not a pro either. Also people wear Fake Rolex, who cares I don't buy my Rolex watches to care who is looking at my wrist or what on other peoples wrist.

[@haruhitotsushima9655]

Speedmaster forever

[@arnoldjenkins5455]

You would say that. But no! Haha

[@user-fy2vz3tu9x]

Omega's design is too busy visually for me....

[@JohnnyDouchbag-nr5yf]

Omega beats Rolex at everything except astetics and value retention

[@sukantasingha6511]

first comment

[@FratelloMagazine]

Word!

[@tritone11]

The Moonshine Speedmaster blows them both out of the water , imo

[@niepokornytyp]

Why nobody wants an Omega and everybody wants a Rolex😅

[@robert-janbroer8936]

Trolling is a great way to waste your time 😂

[@kostinarain7373]

Omega

[@adbraham]

Is it because Fratello stock them? 🤣

[@FratelloMagazine]

We don't sell Omega watches.

[@leetianhau4889]

Rolex is definitely better than omega in terms of their movements. Just look at the thickness of the watches and you’ll know which is better.

[@FratelloMagazine]

Oh good point, so thinner movements are "better"?

[@DavidBoy333]

Omega really wished that their watches were unavailable as well,,,, but the fact is just that nobody pays retail for an omega, most of them here in Hong Kong are going for 20-30% discount in the grey market.....

[@i1p2p3o4c5a6m7p9o9]

Both are beautiful and great watches, tecnically Moonwatch can't be better than a Daytona for 3 reasons... 1) The Daytona it's a much more robust watch 2)It's waterproof 10bar (so i can have a shower, swim with it, and wash it...so i can have a real normal life with it) 3) It's Automatic. Cheers from Italy