The "New" Omega Speedmaster: One Year Verdict

[@apollo11guy]

I was an engineer on the launch team for Apollo 11 in 1969. For my 80th birthday this year, my son surprised me with a Moonwatch. I am thrilled with it.

[@FratelloMagazine]

What an amazing job and a great gift!

[@brianharston7196]

Your son sounds like a great kid. Clearly you brought him up right. Thank you for your role in creating a very proud and historically significant moment for our country.

[@jerroldfrank5869]

Smart move by the kid. It will be his in a few years.

[@apollo11guy]

@@jerroldfrank5869 Good one!

[@patrickkelly1070]

Thank you for your efforts. I was four years old when I watched Niel Armstrong step onto the moon. It was one of the most inspirational moments in my life.

[@ei8hty5ive]

The Speedmaster Moon watch is the definition of 'grail watch'. It truly has everything. It has the history, the desire, the prestige, the build quality, the looks and the brand. Not many watches can actually say that. Great video.

[@FratelloMagazine]

Thanks Edward! Much appreciated

[@FratelloMagazine]

Duly noted for a next video.

[@15harry1561]

Definitely an heirloom watch.

[@hathaway.1166]

It only lacks hype, which it deserves so badly

[@joggyb]

I agree. It was my first grail that was worth to hit

[@DeeKay1911]

I have the sapphire version and it's just SO good... Looks stunning and can go with just about everything from t-shirt to a suit and tie without ever looking out of place. The 3861 in mine is VERY precise as well! Runs just a couple of seconds fast in a whole week of wear

[@James2001]

Treated myself to this exact version of the new Speedy for my 50th birthday in 2021, and I'm still in love with it a year later. Considering selling lots of watches from my collection because they just don't get wrist time anymore with this beauty hardly ever getting put in the box.

[@michaelmaggi7637]

Speaks volumes that this would be your only watch if you had to pick one. It truly is a great watch at a great price point.

[@clayrowden3916]

I just got my SS on bracelet on 10.7.23 and I am very pleased with it. I have wanted a "Moonwatch" since the 70's and it looks like my timing is excellent. The 3861 with all its technical / mechanical advancements is amazing. The new 5 link melt on your wrist bracelet with the recently introduced on the fly micro length adjustment. The new stepped dial, lume, domed hands, dot over 90, etc... is close to perfection. I chose the SS because of the durability and the open case back. I love to look at the movement. I am very pleased. It set me back USD 8,000 and is a tremendous value. Oh, yeah did I say it is beautiful. A classy, humble beautiful.

[@shaverray4462]

I think you’re right: if one were to have only one watch, this iteration of the Speedy would be a very strong candidate. I certainly wear mine more than anything else in my collection. Excellent video.

[@FratelloMagazine]

Thanks, much appreciated!

[@samzerafa3185]

I am close to getting my Speedmaster after 44 years of service in telecommunications. Like you my personal choice will be the basic steel Speedmaster with the hesalite crystal and closed back cover. I already own the Bulova moon watch of which l am impressed with but the Speedmaster has been my grail watch and l believe the time is now right for me to pull the trigger and purchase one. Your video has confirmed my feelings about this amazing watch and it's historic importance, thank you !

[@FratelloMagazine]

Solid choice then!! Thanks for your comment, much appreciated.

[@DeeKay1911]

That is a great choice and a superb reward for many years of service

[@dougieranger]

Enjoy it Sam.

[@roberthansen9876]

Very nice review. I finally took the plunge and bought the white dial version a few months back. I was saving up for the black sapphire but when the white dial showed up, that finally pushed me over the ledge. And since I planned to wear this a lot (and do) it was always going to be the sapphire version. I do like the elegence of the band and case back as well. But something that is really impressive is the accuracy. I have a few watch trees, and one tree is reserved for my high accuracy quartz watches. That would be a Bulova Lunar Pilot, which I got a while back to hold me over while saving for a Speedmaster. It gets 2 sec a year. Then there is the Longines VHP, which barely gets in with its claimed 5 sec a year. And finally, my Citzen Satellite Wave, which isn't technically HAQ since it uses GPS, but since it always is able to get a GPS signal at night, it is always within 1 second of exact time, so it is my reference. And its quartz movement is no slouch, Citizen claims it gets 5 sec a month or better. And I had to move my Speedmaster to the the same tree. When I am wearng it and moving it around, it doesn't vary from exact time by more than 2 to 3 seconds. I am sure if I monitored it, I would figure out the pattern with which to lay it and it stay within a second, but I really haven't had to bother. I've only set it twice. Once when I forgot to wind it, and the other time just to set it because if I waited to have to set it I would be waiting forever.:) And I do like wearing it. I was surprised how nice it wears. I wish it had a date, but then I would have to set it at least once a month, so I guess it is good that it doesn't. As far as the 100 bar, other than my Garmin sports watch, I don't swim with my watches, or even shower with them. I have a couple 200 bar watches, and if I wore them more, I would swim with them.

[@danielb3863]

I work at a wealth management firm in Atlanta. The fact we have clients with 10s of millions in equities and this is the watch of choice for many of them says a lot. A Patek is pocket change for them but the Speedy is their choice still. It truly is the only watch to own in your life if you want. Another thing, a year after launch and ADs here in Atlanta can barely keep the 3861 in stock and NO discount.

[@BooEsq04]

I got a 14% discount on the hesalite 3861 a couple weeks ago. Of course it was the AD I bought my Aqua Terra from last year, so I have a history with them.

[@danielb3863]

@@BooEsq04 Which AD?

[@chrisskywalker3764]

Only in atlanta.. not the world LOL

[@BooEsq04]

@@danielb3863 it was an AD here in Massachusetts

[@67NewEngland]

@@BooEsq04 - I’m in Mass, heading out this weekend to watch shop. Was it the AD in Framingham?

[@whizwheel9436]

Bought the sapphire sandwich version back in August. Lovely watch and yes a great icon. The Master Chronometer certification and the addition of hacking really sold it for me. To make it an even better flight watch, I wouldn't mind if they would add a fly-back version. Appreciate your assessment, especially since it is from a Speedmaster aficionado.

[@FratelloMagazine]

Thank you and glad to read you like the new Moonwatch! 👌🏼

[@JonnyBarrett]

I've also had this model for a year, but with the sapphire caseback and I love it. You're 100% correct about everything - and after watching this, I now like my watch even more.

[@DrWesterdahl]

I bought mine the year it first came out (2021) and love it! I bought the hesalite edition as it is more like the original one worn on the Moon, and bought it with the black nylon strap instead of the bracelet. I also bought the special Omega NASA logo black Velcro strap and tend to wear it more with that strap instead of the black nylon strap. It is a tremendous watch with a great history.

[@PL-tu7jg]

Great review! The new dial and bracelet have only made this watch even better than it was. I couldn’t go back to the big chunky bracelet after trying this one. 99% of watches out there have horrible chunky bracelets and clasps so it’s been great to see omega release a more elegant and comfortable version. It also looks more like the original. This is the best speedmaster yet. The only downside is the 50 meters water resistance as you mentioned. But they would have to add screw down crown and chronograph pushers to increase this and that would take away from the looks. So I’m my opinion this is the perfect moonwatch. Go try one on!

[@scottt.4596]

Great video and feedback, RJ. Perfect background and sound quality, too. Major props to the production team. You don’t need a cute partner in your videos. Your delivery, authentic passion for the hobby and honest in-depth analysis allow you to stand on your own.

[@FratelloMagazine]

Thanks for the kind words, Scott! Don't praise RJ too much though, we need to still fit his ego into our offices! (wait, do I hear leather shoes approaching?!) Err... what I was meaning to say: All praise RJ!

[@scottt.4596]

@@FratelloMagazine , haha 😂

[@samzerafa3185]

A superb review which endorsed my reason to go a buy my watch yesterday. I purchased the non bracelet version and l now enjoying it !

[@TriforceRich]

Great vid as usual RJ! I think Omega nailed this one. There are so many subtle changes and yet almost everyone can be seen as an upgrade. The watch now feels more in line with luxury pricing but it's still that classic moonwatch. The 3861 is a MASSIVE upgrade.

[@Longshore79]

One of the most iconic stunning timepieces ever made.

[@TheBoldHairspring]

A few years ago I found the Moonwatch boring but now it's grown on me so much that I can't stop thinking about getting one.

[@FratelloMagazine]

You won’t regret it!

[@ivanmejia6843]

Same here. Found it so bland I thought. Less is more, however. It's a classic for a reason. Obsessing about getting the Hesalite version.

[@Mega-zi7ys]

Resistance is futile!

[@Mega-zi7ys]

@@FratelloMagazine yes! Welcome to the club!😁

[@nickjanssen]

Goede review, heeft me de laatste push gegeven en dus over de streep getrokken.

[@FratelloMagazine]

Klinkt goed!

[@thatmexicanguy2989]

People forget that Omega test their watches to the ACTUAL water resistance 😎 so when it says 50m it means they have actually been tested at that depth and pressure and were fine… unlike most watches that say 50m and are really just splash resistant. So really the watch is fine for being submerged

[@Richspjones]

Great video. Completely agree; the 3861 hesalite is pretty much perfect. No need for a crazy big box (the travel case is awesome). Why I don’t think it’s perfect? My only complaint about mine is the case and bracelet edge finishing is simply not as smooth as on my Rolex (Sub and Exp II Polar) or my other watches. It’s just not as well finished. That’s why for me it’s not a 10/10 watch. But other than that, it’s a cracker, just needs to share wrist time with the others in my collection. Variety is the spice of life!

[@smiffter97]

The 3861 is a lovely watch but I found the new heavily tapered bracelet looked dinky on my 7.3" wrist. So I ended up purchasing the 1861 as the bracelet fits and looks better on me, could not be happier 👍

[@FratelloMagazine]

Sure! That’s a valid reason! Enjoy your purchase!

[@cdb5001]

The Uncle Seiko Speedmaster bracelet gives you the best of both worlds

[@TheWayofGrace89]

1861 is the bomb 💣

[@cdb5001]

@@TheWayofGrace89 Agreed. I have it and grabbed an Uncle Seiko bracelet, same looking watch and I saved $3,500.

[@steelsteez6118]

@@TheWayofGrace89 You're likely just saying that cause that's what you have 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@moonfleet9537]

I got the sapphire one, wanted to see the movement, and no regret. Love it

[@jameshoward9700]

Fair and balanced review from a man who knows his chops! Nice one. I think the watch is fantastic and I own the same version. Undoubtedly one of the 'great' watches. I think it's reasonably priced and the customer experience from Omega and their retailers is very good. There are so few great watches that are genuine all rounders that can be worn in most situations and this is one of only a handful. Ok, not diving, but fine for swimming. Positives are for me a beautiful, refined, practical, effective design - so easy to read - and great feel in operation. Classic never goes out of fashion. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Omega have handled the evolution of Speedy design better than Rolex have either the Daytona or Sub. Aesthetic negatives for me are (to my eyes) a slight over-taper to the bracelet (20-16/17mm, better?) and slightly less elegant (shorter) lugs compared to previous. Picking nits. In terms of construction and quality, I think the watch is excellent. I do feel the case/bracelet edge radius should be softened (this is a criticism of many modern Omegas). But it's not a problem to wear (and will soften with wear), just not the tactile pleasure it could be to handle off the wrist!

[@1977JohnBoy]

people get a bit silly when it comes to water resistance, most my watches are 200m but never even get rained on! if i was 50m down in the ocean i'd have more to worry about than the time!

[@bradolfsen7935]

Physics though...

[@rsa008]

Buying this in sapphire today!

[@FratelloMagazine]

Congrats!

[@WatchGeek]

Have you experienced the stoppage problem? Apparently it's due to one of the bushings not being made out of correct material. The new ones from end of 2021 and 2022 should have the new bushing installed from the factory. If you don't use the chronograph often you probably won't notice it, as it usually stops after 20+ minutes of running the chrono

[@FratelloMagazine]

Mine (RJ) is from Summer 2021, and I have not encountered any issues with it. And I do run the chronograph often, also longer than 20 minutes.

[@WatchGeek]

@@FratelloMagazine thanks for the fast reply 😁

[@joeschlicht]

I've have this same watch since last January and it's BRILLIANT!! I wear it nearly everyday. Also love that there is a Reverso book in the background. If I had to only have two watches I think it would be the Speedmaster and a Reverso.

[@FratelloMagazine]

That's a perfect collection of two!

[@TheBarts27]

@@FratelloMagazine Just add the submariner and you covered all situations. Perfect collection of three.

[@scollyutube]

Agree. Would be useful for Omega to offer the micro adjust clasp as an easy post purchase for owners now too.

[@FratelloMagazine]

You can order it already.

[@cupra2Jock.]

I have that on my 2022 lol its great

[@visiblemode]

On the very edge of ordering this one. I’ve wanted a Speedmaster for decades and it is my most anticipated watch. Ultimately I teetered between this and the sapphire. I prefer this in 90% of ways. The only lingering doubt is about hesalite gouges. Light swirls and scratches that I can polywatch out don’t phase me. I almost look forward to giving it love. The only thing is I’m not sure what it takes to gouge it. I take very good care of my stuff, so it won’t be abused it’s just that on the car ride home tonight the seatbuckle flew up and swiped my Tudor’s sapphire and it made me wonder if that would have potentially had me worried this time next week with the Speedy. I’m not lacking the stomach for hesalite, it’s just this is my favourite review of this watch and I want to hear it from you.

[@visiblemode]

Update I bought it, LOL. So far so good.

[@gw6496]

I have my Speedmaster Omega automatic watch since 1981 going onto 43 years, best watch I have owned and it's still running great!!!

[@maromorostar6621]

How many time did you get it serviced?

[@gw6496]

@@maromorostar6621 1 time only

[@dougieranger]

A very comprehensive and honest review. Thank you.

[@williamotto2725]

Great review. How has the Hesalite crystal held up regarding scratches. I heard that Speedys are in general, real scratch magnets? Thanks!

[@philmanson2991]

Just purchased a 3861 sapphire Speedy and I could not be happier! I tired of Rolex and their artificial "shortage," plus the Mooney escapement is far superior to a Rollie. Finally, I'm all about technological improvement - just like NASA - and if a better calibre is invented, I want it! SCIENCE!!

[@FratelloMagazine]

Congrats!

[@dreamtube3433]

I have the 3861 and the 9300 steel version, same as the todays ceramics but it isn't produced anymore. I just love the 3861 more and the bracelet is great, at least for me.

[@Ou81269]

Well done video. Very informative and helpful for someone trying to decide between the Speedmaster and Seamaster for their next watch purchase.

[@_Peter_.]

Love almost all Speedmasters! (321, 861, 1861, 3861, 1040, 1041). Also love your content! Thanks for the video!

[@FratelloMagazine]

Thanks Peter, much appreciated! Don't forget the 866/1866!

[@_Peter_.]

You are right! I also like the 866/1866 and the 863/1863 and even the cal. 3201! I assume I will love also the silver dial cal. 864 Speedmaster, but this is one of the few versions I have never seen live.. Keep the fantastic work on the Speedmaster topic!

[@petermashak3341]

I have this same model. Except for daylight savings time, I have not had to adjust the time on this watch for almost a year!

[@DBravo29er]

I don't know who is going deeper underwater than 164 feet, but there are other watches for that. 50m is just fine. My Blue Side of the 🌚 Aventurine Moonphase is rated at 50m and it's been totally fine for heavy rain, hand washing, and being fully immersed in water (strap held up perfectly well). I grew up punishing a Casio that had zero WR rating. Wore it to the beach, in the water, in the pool, etc etc. It was totally fine. "Concerns" over the WR rating are manufactured drama.

[@hathaway.1166]

And then there’s me, who used to be afraid of submerging my 200m wr Casioak🫣

[@markrussell5617]

Fabulous video. So helpful for someone that is hoping to be in the market for a hesalite 3861 soon.

[@fan-jo2je]

I have owed mine for a few month and I love it. It is very comfortable and I really like the distortion on the glass the dome is awesome.

[@cheynewalls]

Thank you for this video, I'm really thinking about getting an Omega Speedmaster and this video answered a lot of my questions. Cheers

[@andrewyeow8824]

Thank you for the review, as i'm still researching the Column Wheel (vertical clutch) vs Cam Lever (horizontal clutch) systems, do you notice that this 3861 skips when the chronograph is engaged?

[@OmegaFanMan]

Nice review. I just wish both had the applied logo. That pushed me to the sapphire version.

[@speedzero7478]

If I had only one watch, this wouldn't be it. I like a hard wearing diver for that. However if I could only have two watches, this would be my second. The same you have here, heselite, on the bracelet. What a gem.

[@DESCENDINGDR]

Yes, the best Speedy to date! The bracelet itself is reason enough to buy this one. And to think that there are critics of this bracelet, claiming sharp edges!

[@FratelloMagazine]

I don’t think it’s sharp at all and neither do my colleagues who also have bought one 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@DESCENDINGDR]

I went into the AD to look at a Rolex or Tudor (can't remember which), then I saw the new Speedmaster sapphire. Bought it on the spot! Best bracelet of any Omega IMO..

[@James2001]

@@timogaleon1630 that's just absurd. You're making yourself sound like a complete wimp. I've never once felt like I was close to injuring myself with the new Speedy, and I've worn mine daily for over a year. Toughen up, Nancy.

[@JohnConnor636]

The only watch for the rest of your life question, I recently feel the same way. I love my Speedmaster professional so much. I feel the watch is just less flashy than other watches in that category, Sub, SMP, Explorer etc.

[@Jean_Albert]

Thanks for this interesting video. I actually just ordered the exact same model, and it is the first speedmaster of my collection. As I live in a hot country where I go to the beach very often, I was wondering how often would I be able to wear my speedy. Honestly, I tend to be quite careless with my watches as sports watches are - to me - meant to be worn in all types of context. I will apply the same rule to my Speedy, and I hope I won't regret it. I am adding that I decided to go for this model with the aim to become a "one-watch guy" (which I am very far from), so I really expect it to tick all the cases.

[@LoveBandit1000]

Sounds like you might have been better served by a 200m or 300m dive watch...

[@Jean_Albert]

@@LoveBandit1000 I already have a couple of those, but to me they're not daily watches as they can't be worn in all contexts

[@JoelyPera]

Wonderful video! I’m currently saving up for one. I probably have 2-3 more years of saving, but I believe it’s worth it. What would be your 2nd favorite iteration of the Speedmaster? Thank you!

[@FratelloMagazine]

Just the standard Speedmaster Professional "Moonwatch" Master Chronometer with Hesalite crystal.

[@JoelyPera]

@@FratelloMagazine Thanks!

[@grailwatchclubaustralia]

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[@comac8638]

It's a great watch. Understated yet sophisticated

[@fakedoctoralex]

Nice summary, RJ. I think the latest 3861 Moonwatch is the best yet. And I actually like the smaller box. Who loupes their Speedy and actually wears them on the velcro straps *wink*? I think the only downside is the significant price increase (or difference) when compared to the previous generation 1861. It's not the bargain it used to be but in its price range, no other chronograph can compete in terms of heritage and overall quality.

[@affegorilla1299]

I need the open case back for sure🤩

[@larrysolien9541]

Overall, this new Speedmaster 3861 if fantastic, but the should have include the push button ratcheting micro-adjustments in the clasp. Hopefully Omega will offer this feature on future Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch.

[@808watches6]

Mine stopped working within one year with the dreaded 58 second curse (fully wound with chronograph function engaged). Apparently it’s a common issue with several owners of this timepiece with the new movement. I’ve heard even brand new Daytonas have the same issue. My only rebuttal of that argument is that the Daytonas use an older movement whereas the new 3861 is graded as being “Master Chronometer.” Of course I got it repaired for free via Omega and it has been keeping accurate time now thankfully.

[@FratelloMagazine]

Sorry to hear that! I have a few watches with 3861 and haven’t had any issues. But indeed I have heard of this flaw a few times, luckily exceptions.

[@vjchav]

I'm planning on getting a moon watch could you please elaborate on the problem?

[@corychecketts]

For me, the Speedy Pro is the Porsche 911 of watches.

[@manfredroth8683]

Great review, thanks. I always thought the older bracelet did not really fit. I had the same one on a Seamaster from 2005 and didn't like it there either.

[@kongmw]

Having just bought mine last month, I’m only here to get a pat on the back from RJ 😂

[@FratelloMagazine]

*pat*

[@amundbjerve]

I have a Speedmaster made in 1969, the first reference with the caliber 861. I also have several other (younger) chronographs of different brands, and the Speedy has been more reliable than all my other chronographs. If you rotate between a few watches in your collection, you can service it only once every decade or so, and the watch will easily outlive the owner. A vintage Speedy has only one weakness, and that is the lack of water resistance. Other than that, it's an everyday watch. I use mine regularly.

[@StefanoMaggio]

I own a master cert. Omega and love it and currently have a modern Speedymoon. I will only upgrade it for a100 plus meters WR so I an use it like a want to, never take it off. I would also get the Hesalite as that movement punches well above its weight for the price.

[@bradolfsen7935]

Hesalite is not a movement.

[@1209jayt]

Thanks for your input! You never mention what caliber is that? Im new to Omega but how can you distinguish the haselite crystal vs sapphire? Thanks

[@bradolfsen7935]

He mentioned it several times. Sapphire has a display case back.

[@stevehs4287]

I own a 3861 speedy and it’s my daily wearer , it’s a great watch but it’s limited water resistance stops it being a ‘one and done’ watch in my opinion.

[@xpusostomos]

I wouldn't wear a watch this expensive in the water anyway, too much can go wrong. I've done it, I've worn Rolex subs in the water, but you have nightmares, what if a pin in the bracelet breaks, what if the clasp comes undone and it drops to the bottom of the ocean, what if..

[@steelsteez6118]

Very valid point

[@steelsteez6118]

@@xpusostomos you worry too much and it's why you'll never fully enjoy your pieces. I have Rolex, Omega, Breitling, JLC, and wear all of them in the water. A lot of them are tool watches. That is what they were literally designed to do other than tell time. Anything 100m or more is going in the water. No way you need more than 300 feet of water resistance. If you do, you need a dive computer not an analog watch. And trust me, no pin is falling out or clasp coming magically undone on any Rolex, Breitling, Omega, etc 😂😂😂😂. While anything is possible its highly unlikely. And if that's how you live your life, you might as well not leave your house because what if you get hit by a bus this one time that you leave the house, what if you get struck by lightning, what if you walk over a loose sewer lid and fall in and break your legs, what if....... This guy lol.

[@shaagaknowsyou5295]

@@xpusostomos that is exactly why you dive with a nato and never a bracelet.

[@omax1023]

I agree totally with your review, if Omega would've added the "Eyeloop with the bezel ring" to the Saffire sandwich option..... I'd be totally over the moon!!! Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@FratelloMagazine]

Thanks, much appreciated!

[@b_altmann]

Well, the last Speedmaster was also the last one that was affordable. Therefore the FOiS is particularly amazing, as it has the also the vintage case.

[@krystianstepien5835]

Great video. Great content about Speedy.

[@jasonswitzer1748]

So… the 321 is for history buffs, but technically the new “base” movement is technically superior, correct (i.e. better accuracy, resistance to magnetism,etc.)?

[@FratelloMagazine]

That’s correct Jason.

[@jonathanedwards2983]

Just got the Hesalite version. I love it, but I am not as big a fan of the bracelet as I thought I would be. In my opinion it tapers more than it should, almost appearing dainty on the wrist. Due to the small size of the clasp it is difficult to take on and off when sized for my 7 3/8 inch wrist- it just doesn’t open quite enough. It also needs at least one more micro adjust position. I am a fan of the smaller links, but it makes sizing adjustment difficult for me, I found that the micro adjust spacing was just about equal to adding/removing a link. Other than those details it is fantastic. Since there is no polish on the bracelet it is quickly becoming my durable everyday piece. I also miss viewing the movement because of the closed case back- perhaps Omega should make a sapphire exhibition back available for purchase…

[@tacomn]

How many links do you have left on your bracelet on each side?

[@jerryg50]

I have the sapphire version of the Speedmaster Mark II with the 861a movement. I bought it new from an Omega dealer in 1974. I get it serviced and adjusted about every 4 to 5 years at an Omega authorized service place. This watch is keeping an average of about +2 to +6 seconds per day. Sometimes it runs a bit slower or faster depending on my activities while wearing it. I've thought about getting the newer version of this watch. I found if my watch starts to run a bit fast I then demagnetize it, and then it runs at normal speed. I am sure it is my cell phone that tends to magnetize this watch. I am careful to not take this watch in to water.

[@andre-dx4yw]

i bought my motm speedie new in 2015 and it keeps fantastic time and have no desire to get the newer version, only complaint is the box is massive, but i prefer having a movement closer to the original

[@ams914]

Very hard to argue against a speedy pro if you were forced to only wear one watch.

[@Conan89898]

Thanks for the video. I got a Speedmaster Co-Axial 9300 (with 2 Counter and 44,25mm) and Saphire Sandwich. Now its too big for me and i checked out the Moonwatch; now the sane configuration is 7.400 EUR. That’s really a big jump in the last 2 years, and exactly 1.000€ more than in 2021. It hurts.

[@charliezobel511]

I am really pondering pulling the trigger on the sapphire sandwich at nigh on 20% below list price from my AD, who has just lost that status due to Swatch Group getting in to bed with WoS Group and stitching up loyal independents like him 😡 Though that said I am resisting till I see what this big reveal is that Omega are going to drop day after tomorrow(26/01) but chances are I’ll finally be a fully paid up member of the Speedy Club in 48 hours. Fair play for taking the patch off the sleeve on your Stoney sweater by the way, you know when you know 😉

[@literallyjase]

Where is that spaceman model from?

[@trickystravels]

i have been looking at moon watches for over 30 years. I still cannot decide between hesalite or sapphire. I pick one then wish I had the other. I am concerned about hesalite scratch resistance or lack of it. That is my only worry

[@Slipsch]

I like modern technology watches. So a sapphire sandwich would be my preference. But really would love to see a ceramic bezel in the future.

[@PTR2K]

I was going to buy one of these Speedmasters but I got the phone call from the Rolex boutique offering a DateJust 41. Will definitely be getting a speedmaster in future however!

[@thegraciefighter102]

Did you get used to the sharp edges on the bracelet ?

[@FratelloMagazine]

Those are not really an issue.

[@bharatc.sampat6406]

Excellent reporting. Thanks

[@993mike]

I was seriously considering this new version to replace my sapphire model I bought 3 years ago, but the bracket was a no-go for me. If you’re a bigger guy like me (6’2” and 210 lbs) with thicker wrists, the overly taper down design makes it look like a woman’s watch on me. Try one on before you buy, as you may be surprised unless you’re going with a strap instead

[@FratelloMagazine]

I (RJ) am even taller, suits me perfectly. It’s all about perception and preferences I think.

[@xpusostomos]

I think you get used to it. I'm bigger than you are, and I've got used to wearing a Marathon with 16mm strap, not even tapered.

[@coronetmag]

I was looking more of a one-year-later verdict of wearing the watch, as the title suggested, not another review of the watch as we’ve already seen ad nauseam on KZbin

[@s.beasley8926]

Not sure why people complain about the Speedy Professional’s water resistance. I would be curious to know just how many people swim that deeply anyway. I would wager the majority hardly swim 10 feet or under. Remember the Speedy was made for racing (on land) and later used in space because it was accurate and robust. I applaud Omega for keeping the Speedmaster close to its original purpose. For those who want higher water resistance, Omega makes some great diver watches. My only complaint with Speedmaster is that it doesn’t have an adjustable clasp. That would have brought it closer to perfection. I’m enjoying my Speedy 3861 with sapphire. And to those who complain about so the called milky ring: it’s actually moonlight. Those sly Omega engineers. Lol

[@thatmexicanguy2989]

Agreed lol, no need for water resistance in space and Omega keep it original but people don’t think about that

[@xpusostomos]

The depth rating isn't an indication of how deep you can go, it's just the pressure it was tested at. In real life, when you're moving around under water, the presssures are more than the static number. I wouldn't be wearing any watch in the water anyway with non-screw-down pushers, too dangerous if you knock them.

[@s.beasley8926]

@@xpusostomos Thanks for the clarification.

[@thatmexicanguy2989]

@@xpusostomos omega actually test all their watches to that depth, so when it says 50m it means it’s been tested to 50m. Most watch brands don’t do it but Omega do

[@James2001]

@@xpusostomos Moving around in water has zero bearing on the pressure, that's a myth.

[@johnnyguitar6697]

Hard to argue with your thinking, RJ.

[@mikeuk4130]

I agree with you about the size of the lettering on the dial. Indeed, one of the beauties of the non-Professional dials, eg, FOiS, is the amount of space around the small-scale text and the contrast it has with the black dial. We don’t want to stray into R***x territory, do we? Furthermore, I think it’s a shame that OMEGA indulges in the sort of up-selling which the car manufacturers use. Every customer sees a “must-have” feature for which they would pay a bit extra, such as the sapphire case back, but why deprive those wanting to stay close to the “original” of the bigger box, tools, etc. I too prefer the brushed bracelet and Hesalite appearance. Surely, in 202x, OMEGA can find a way of not linking all these things in packages. Having said all that, such a well-specified watch as this will suit a lot of people perfectly and it’s a big step up from the 1861 model before it.

[@rezar6894]

Great review. I am torn between the sapphire and the hesalite version. Can I ask what made you choose the hesalite version over the sapphire open sandwich? Also, has your hesalite picked up a lot of scratches and does it bother you? Cheers

[@FratelloMagazine]

Hi, no, mine didn't pick-up a lot of scratches. I do have some older ones that clearly show some hairline scratches. In the end, I have the crystals replaced during service anyway. I picked the Hesalite version because it's closest to the original Moonwatch, and because I already have the Moonshine version with display back showing the 3861.

[@Mega-zi7ys]

Hesalite, you can now get super thin 0.1mm self healing TPU films that are virtually invisible to the naked eye. And they don't affect the beautiful opacity of the hesalite at all. The curvature of the hesalite is a delight as well. The solid caseback is a plus for me. Clear casebacks are a novelty you look at initially. After a week or so, you'll be busy wiping smudges off the back crystal 😁 Best regards

[@Harold710]

Was price given? 9:20

[@tacomn]

You like this or the Seamaster 300 heritage better?

[@robysarno]

Nicely done, thank you for posting the video. Of course one can say that they sapphire version is not entirely faithful to the original. So I wonder when Omega is going to do a hesalite crystal version with a stepped dial that has also an applied logo. Would that be that hard? Anyway the watch needs no introduction as it is so rich of history. But since Omega has produced the famous 321 movement again I guess they could also case that movement in such a steel case, with a stepped dial, dot over 90, hesalite crystal and applied logo, then you would have the closest to the original as possible. One more thing, don't you think that now that the 321 movement is again into production, the 861 has actually become the most rare of all? After all it was only produced for a couple of years, from 1968/9 until 1971/2.

[@tomatonic1948]

Great video, hopefully we'll see it return to space, to the moon and even beyond. Do you know whether NASA is already issuing these for new missions, and if SpaceX will have a separate watch qualification or will they just take over the qualification from NASA for their own missions?

[@FratelloMagazine]

NASA only issues the X-33 Gen 2 to astronauts.

[@DBravo29er]

Bezos wore a speedy in his last trip to space. No idea on the exact model.

[@kevinhan721]

If you didn't have the moonshine gold moonwatch and have to have only one watch rest of your life, would it still be sapphire or hesalite version?

[@user-xh5pi2nf9q]

My two favorite chronographs right now that are more affordable is the new Saphire Speedy and the Zenith El Primero Original. I love the history and style of both and I could easily buy both. But I don’t have the means nor need for two chronographs. I’ve always said I would have 1 Chronograph and 1 all rounder like a Planet Ocean 2500

[@REDDAWN2010]

Lol, the teaser video while we wait for the Green Goblin Mooshine Speedy that I ordered..

[@vallurirajesh]

Who in their right mind goes swimming wearing a 15 thousand dollar watch anyway!! These are things of beauty that should be looked after carefully not abused in swimming pools.

[@luxuryfood3810]

How are the scratches? that's what really worry me. And how is with loosing time?

[@FratelloMagazine]

It didn't lose time (just a slight gain, which is acceptable and within the Master Chronometer standards), and no scratches so far.

[@alessandrocodeluppi4916]

Very interesting video,I feel your passion apart of your competence. I subscribed!

[@FratelloMagazine]

Thank you!

[@alessandrocodeluppi4916]

...and today arrived my first Speedmaster.... I'm happy like a child...

[@FratelloMagazine]

Congrats! Needless to say: great choice!

[@StevenScholten]

What about the ed white? Ithi k it has a better looking saphire crystal. No white ring. Pitty they do not use that on the 3861

[@FratelloMagazine]

We have another video on our channel with the Ed White :)

[@StevenScholten]

@@FratelloMagazine yeah I know. Thought it was your fav. Besides I hope Omega is watching this and decides to change to saphire crystal lol

[@jamescraft7509]

I have the Hesalite crystal w/ the Sapphire caseback and the 1863 movement, my 1st "luxury" watch which will never part with.

[@FratelloMagazine]

That's a great version! Cherish it :-)

[@woperations1841]

Great video! Fully agree with you, this speedmaster is one of the best and maybe the most comfortable I've had. Enjoying it since a year now! BTW what do you think about the new 2022 omega releases? I'm a bit disappointed, was expecting a bit more reconnection with their heritage especially with the speedmaster (a reedition of the 2915 in steel?! 😉)

[@FratelloMagazine]

Omega already did a re-edition of the 2915 in steel in 2017. Putting a caliber 321 in that same watch would not sit well with owners of that watch for sure. With regards to the 2022 releases, we’ve covered them on our website. As soon as we get the watches in for a hands-on review, we will also do some videos :-) 👌🏼

[@woperations1841]

@@FratelloMagazine Sure! Was expecting in a way that after the 80 000eur speed of January 2022 (despite having a huge price tag seems to be a fantastic piece) they will release almost the same one in steel with the new 3861 caliber (more attainable in a way) especially considering this special anniversary year for the speedmaster! But 2022 is not over, do you think we could get a new speedmaster in the 2nd half of the year ? 😉

[@tommak2217]

Great video!

[@fabfour289]

Omega, please next ceramic bezel for the sapphire and aluminum one for the original hesalite. Thanks.