FIXED!! Our Failed F250 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel Injector Replacement Gets Fixed! What was wrong?

[@SONNYREESE]

got a 97 with 120,000 and its JUNK!!!! Been nuttin but trouble for the 10 years I owned it! AND I was tole this is the second motor in it! They are only a 60,000 mile motor!

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

A 7.3? No way. These are normally over a half-million miles. Almost every one I see has nearly 400K.

[@hurschelreese4575]

got this one to prove they are a 60,000 mile motor! Come fix it for me! injectors are now junk in it at 60,000 miles. its had the hp oil pump , turbo, wiring harness, sensors, glow plugs ( once a year) in the 10 years I have owned it, plus a bunch of other stuff. top speed on a good day is 35 to 45 mph peddle to the floor, no smoke, no power, and pulling the dump trailer 25 to 30 mph. Gets about 4 mpg loaded or empty makes no difference, motor is junk man!!!!!!!!!! @@ProjectTimeGarage

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

@@hurschelreese4575 I may be interested in buying it. How much do you want for it?

[@TheMoparGarage]

Glad you got that figured out. Bummer when stuff is defective out of the box!

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yeah, it happens sometimes. Glad we got it going too.

[@John-xh9cl]

I have the early 99. Only 218k miles. The best truck ever. Great videos brother.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Thanks my friend...and thanks for watching! 218K, that truck will live a loooong time.

[@whatifyourwrong9153]

Triangle of power had too much horsepower at one time could barely hear ya 😂. Love the series for a diesel newbie your videos are a treasure of information. Thank you for going into detail and diagnosing these old hoopties

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

LOL, that's the Triangle-O-Powa for ya! Glad to have you aboard!!!

[@jeffreypinder9398]

Excellent troubleshooting. Not sure how many times I have issues with DOA parts while working, can be frustrating. Subscribed to your channel, excellent content.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Awesome, thanks for watching!!

[@nwrstrength4355]

I just ordered a set of injectors from Full Force for my 2000 7.3, 2 of them wouldn't fire and another had a chip on the electric solenoid. The one with the chip still fied, so I just ran down to Napa and had them order me in new remans. The old girl runs good now.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Guess I never thought about getting the remans from NAPA. Any idea who does their reman work?

[@LoLoNationalForest]

Respectfully requesting a 7.3L auto to manual swap video.

[@treeofliberty4407]

I have a 350 manual if you want to swap for your auto....

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Man oh man, I would LOVE to do that swap. Everyone wants a zillion dollars for a ZF6.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

@treeofliberty4407 where are you located?

[@LoLoNationalForest]

@@treeofliberty4407 I'll let @projectimegarage make the video first 🤌🏼

[@MikeConner.akaRadio]

Did you have oil flow in the valve train while you were cranking over at what PSI did you start to see oil if you did?

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I did see some oil pressure in the rails, but not enough, which is why I suspected a faulty "new" injector. Should see about 700psi or so while cranking. I was seeing around 100 or so.

[@kenroberts7106]

just an fyi the HPOP can reach over 3k on start and during running

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yep, 3k on a good pump is common, though I've never actually witnessed a pump go over about 1k during starting. My guess is that the starter can't turn fast enough to generate any more pressure out of the pump.

[@Nostradamus_Order33]

At 3:30 the harness was unplugged?

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Correct, it was unplugged at that point. All we wanted to see was high pressure oil, which doesn't require the injector harness to be connected.

[@Lonewolf23-26]

Torque app pro here I come! That 7.3 would run over my excursion right now! Looks like that truck needs a steering box but excellent video figuring out what it was!

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yeah, the steering needs some love for sure.

[@davidlampe4153]

Good logical reasoning for the injectors awful thing about these trucks cranking away hoping it will start knowing something just isn’t right. Nothing more satisfying than vrrroom! At the end.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

True enough. Just when you think it's not gonna happen, relief!

[@monkeywrench8990]

Just as I thought. I learned that even a bad injector will pass a buzz test. My forscan never picked up the bad injector. Took it over to a mechanic with a more expensive scanner. High low open on one injector. After ruling out wiring, I was surprised as you were that it was a bad brand new rebuilt injector. Good job👍

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

You know, when we buzzed these on the last video, I think I recall hearing one that was a bit quieter, but neither of us can remember 100%.

[@kirkpalmer1709]

I bought a set of rebuilt stock injectors from Full Force several years ago. The truck ran pretty good after install but it had a new very annoying CACK-CACK-CACK noise. I drove it like that for a couple years. It's my daily driver and work truck so I can't just let it sit while I resolve the problem, and I don't live anywhere close to Full Force. I put a set of brand new alliant injectors in and the truck ran perfect and sounded as it should. I just ate the $1,300 or so I spent on the Full Force rebuilds.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

OUCH! That sucks with dollar signs!

[@MikeConner.akaRadio]

You want to sell those injectors you took out?

[@HemiChrysler]

What system/software are you using that you see graphical data upon your phone ? Thanks.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Take a look at my other videos. I have one that goes in detail on setting it all up from scratch.

[@MrSaabviggen]

I said exhaust port open on an injector.. I had FF 180/30 sticks had to open one up and fix it myself

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yep, nailed it.

[@0wnToDead]

so if you have a low hpop will it always be the injectors?

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Several OBD2 Readers will show the pressures on the HPOP. I have a video covering setup of some cheap ways of doing it. Basically, you want to see good pressure (like 3000psi or so) under hard acceleration. Usually a bad HPOP will build good pressure then immediately lose it.

[@0wnToDead]

@@ProjectTimeGarage i bought a truck recently and the guy i bought it from said the truck had 3 bad injectors, he replaced all 8 injectors and now the car doesn't start. Im assuming a bad install? Where should I start? Are there any other tests i can do before replacing all 8, to narrow down which side and injector is having the issue? I thought maybe we had the same issue

[@joshualee9024]

So i got stage 1 turbo single shot 180 injectors and hpop new icp and ipr my truck hasnt really went far and i have a new tuner from full force has rough idle and my icp reading 4.69% do you know what it could be

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Rough idle is most likely air in the system. Sometimes it takes a LOOOONG time to get it all out. Sometimes it'll smoke for a few hundred miles too.

[@jamesschultz30]

So im really hoping this isn't my problem. Mine started ok. But after i got most of the air out of the system, something still not right. Starts right up. But it has white smoke and a light miss. They both go away after a couple miles. Full force 180cc injectors, motorcraft harnesses and glow plugs. When i first got it finished it missed and smoked. One i got the hydra installed, it fixed most it . At my witts end trying to figure out what's going on.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

From my experiences, white smoke, misses, etc can remain for quite a while after an Injector replacement. But, it's very possible one of the injectors has an issue. Have a look a ForScan Lite and see what the injectors are doing. Also a cylinder contribution balance test may give you some direction.

[@jamesschultz30]

@@ProjectTimeGarage I'm at a little over a hundred now. Scans aren't really telling me much right now anyway. I would have to take it in, I think, for the balance test. My next move will be a mat sensor, followed up by checking my exhaust temps on my manifold to see if they're close to each other. I'm driving it right now. You guys actually helped me quite a bit. That's why I shared a couple of tricks I figured out.

[@johnnyarter2971]

I have a 2000 f250 won't start cold has to keep plugged up if it ain't started after bout 8hrs all injector working

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I'll almost bet it's the glow plug relay. Its VERY common. Wait till the truck is cold, take a screwdriver and short across the two big lugs on top of the glow plug relay (it's gonna spark, but hang in there). Keep them shorted for about 10 seconds or so, then run in and try to start the truck - I'd bet it fires right up. If it does, replace the relay with a Motorcraft part - the cheap ones from the parts store won't last a year.

[@johnnyarter2971]

@ProjectTimeGarage I put new ones In and new gasket harness new relay it runs lime a scolded dog when she warm but just won't start cold so.e k e said may be ecm

[@johnnyarter2971]

@@ProjectTimeGarage it had 419.000 miles on all original

[@rom.6.23]

The long cranking time could also come from a low pressure oil pump being worn out

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yes it sure could. In this case, we had a very nice running truck with 3000psi of high pressure oil prior to doing the injectors. Thankfully the replacement injector fixed it up. It's had about 2000 miles and it's holding strong (for now).

[@rom.6.23]

@@ProjectTimeGarage what I was getting at is if tolerances are off on low pressure pump it will still build full pressure just takes longer to get there, onces it's there it will hold it. So the hpop will work as it should regardless once low pressure builds to proper pressure. Hpop has to have pressure from low pressure pump before it can begin to build

[@LOWKEYDANGER]

What kind of fuel injector cleaner do you guys use

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I personally just run an additive called Archoil both in the fuel and in the oil.

[@MeYou-gd9zm]

No oil bath unless you hit the pedal. It's fine to run with valve covers off

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Thanks

[@mrbill8542]

It's like Eric O. says--just because the parts are new, doesnt mean they are any good !!!!

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Love me some SMA!

[@dougj.8288]

That’s frustrating to have to pull new injectors out. Good video, just wish it was longer! 👍🏻 👍🏻

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Tell me about it. Lots more coming on this truck. There is a whole playlist, in case you havent seen it.

[@matthewjack9950]

Great work.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Thank you sir!

[@805coastin7]

I’ve bought reman injectors from full force,had good luck. I thought it would have been the low pressure pump draining back do to the high mileage

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I was suspecting the HPOP myself, but to be fair, we don't know if it has been replaced or not.

[@Raydarman1]

Once you pull those glow plugs if leaving the injectors in I would roll the motor over by hand at the harmonic balancer instead of cranking it over to blow out the cylinders. You could damage your connecting rods.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Good info, but evacuation via the glow plugs is the standard procedure for the 7.3 and 6.0 trucks.

[@Raydarman1]

@@ProjectTimeGarage why take the risk?

[@packingbone1953]

Why wouldn't they test them before they send them out. Fantastic trouble shooting video though!

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

eh, things happen. It could have been something stuck under there when they shipped, or it could have been a contaminant from our oil, main thing is they made it right, and quickly. No harm, no foul.

[@Beijingbiden]

@@ProjectTimeGarage your thoughts on a stored code in the idm p1317 code after changing my injectors Light comes on intermittently only when cold out with cold motor Truck runs fine ucvh new and in perfect shape all wires and harnesses good I figured they may have machined one of the injectors to tight Or perhaps I didn't put the #8 injector in the right hole I don't think so Seems to be getting worse light comes on more and in warmer temperatures and with warmer motor Does go away fully warmed but can come back on a brief wot Any help bud would be greatly appreciated

[@yaddi3434]

You mean to tell me you can use that dongle in the obd2 port and an app to get all the data as you drive instead of a CTS or guages?? That's gotta be the way to go

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yep, in fact I have a video covering the basic setup of the apps. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJ6TZoOniZZrf6c

[@MikeConner.akaRadio]

For reals how do i get that scan tool your using? Please??

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Check out my video covering it. Cheap and easy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJ6TZoOniZZrf6c

[@wh8085]

I'm learning a lot about the powerstroke . Of course I knew nothing at all before I started watching your vids . Thanks for taking time to explain everything. One question is that you mentioned the #8 cylinder had a different injector than the other three on that bank. Is there one different on the passenger side too ? I noticed it had a blue hood/cover thing where the others were yellow so are they color coded ? . Oh and the air filter , did you not put the new filter inside a filter box or something ? Thanks much for putting up with dumb questions !

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

No, the rear passenger the same as all the other 7. The difference you saw was just the solenoid. There are a few manufacturers of that solenoid, so when getting remanufactured injectors, it isn't uncommon to see a difference in colors.

[@darinhill5351]

Question how did you get the gauges to come up on your phone for for scan.

[@darinhill5351]

For injection pressure?

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

If you're talking about the green gauges, I used Torque Pro for the app, then a Bluetooth OBD2 scanner.

[@darinhill5351]

@@ProjectTimeGarage . Yeah I have the same thing you have cuz I've been watching a lot of your videos and I do it through my phone and I have the thing that you plug in that I got from Amazon the link that you provided but I'm trying to figure out how you get the gauges up on the phone or a tablet so I can see everything that's going on like the oil pressure injection pressure. Maybe you could do a video of how you put the gauges up on your tablet.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

@@darinhill5351 Dude, that's a REALLY good idea! I will 100% do that video. Thanks for suggesting it! I will actually try and get it done in time to publish on Friday March 3rd.

[@darinhill5351]

@@ProjectTimeGarage . Thank you very much .

[@markcarter8731]

engine oil pump is failing on the crank shaft

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

It was a stuck injector solenoid.

[@7.3strokemaster16]

I also had 2 bad injectors from full force. Not very happy with them tbh

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I give them the benefit of the doubt, I guess. I've gone through a bunch of them and this is the first bad one I've had. Plus, it could have been contamination from the oil, idk.

[@travisthompson3700]

My bet....Bad HPOP, if not the injector brings, with all cranking the Low pressure pump might be trashed, need

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

The video shows the fix

[@formula19]

Full force diesel injectors… I have heard a lot about FFD- most of it not positive. The general consensus among the 7.3 community is to go with Rosewood / Jim Rosewood.

[@tracywagers1399]

It’s cursed and jinxed and hexed to have more no starts

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Probably so.

[@tracywagers1399]

@@ProjectTimeGarage ok

[@erikknudson1987]

Hey I have a 2006 f250 fully built proof egr delete apr head, studs, upgraded blue spring for the fuel upgrade high pressure oil pump coolant, filtration system etc the problem I’m having is I’m getting 200 miles to a fuel tank of fuel my truck is for pulling my bobcat to an from jobs an when I’m not pulling I still get 200 miles to a fuel tank of fuel can someone help me please cuz I done toke it to the shop 3 times an they can’t find out why thanks in advance

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

If it isn't smoking out the tail pipe, then you may be leaking fuel somewhere. 200 miles on a tank is about 12mpg or so. How much fuel is it taking at a fillup?

[@erikknudson1987]

26

[@kencornett4768]

Hey you guys made a good deal on that for $500 you got a nice looking truck but how much money do you have invested and it to date I am curious you're doing a real good job on it could you use are using quality parts but I am curiou too see how much money is invested to date this is Ken groveland Florida

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I believe we're right around the 5K mark at this point. Of course, there was a lot of stuff bought that the truck didn't necessarily need in order to be operable. Wheels, tires, gauges, carpet, headliner, bumper, seat covers, tail lights, every sensor/engine piece that may actually have 350K on it, etc. My buddy (who owns the truck) is really working on making it as close to perfect as he can. He's a bit of a perfectionist.

[@barjanweb1877]

SH!T, I just ordered a set of injectors from that company an hour ago.... hope I have better luck.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I've installed a LOT of their injectors since they are local to me. This is the first time I've had any issue with one.

[@johncraig406]

Why not start with 2 good hot battereis? it will never start with dead batteries

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

We started with 2 good hot ( and brand spankin' new) batteries. It doesn't take much cranking to drag them down.

[@NCCountryBoy]

I've said it b4 I say it again I love my 6.0, had a 2002 7.3, they are just slow lol

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I also have a 6.0 truck. I'm torn between them. I like things from both.

[@NCCountryBoy]

@ProjectTimeGarage yeah I like urs mine is a 05

[@tracywagers1399]

That pickup is quadruple cursed quadruple jinxed and quadruple hexed to not want to start at all

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yes, it is.

[@subjectofgov]

And four new starters later......

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Nah, only one new starter.

[@HaHaHa-TRUMPSYOMAN]

You need new batteries for these 7.3 to fire

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Those are brand spankin' new. Like 2 months old.

[@dockey6942]

Don't burn the starter up

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Eh, it's gettin a new one anyways.

[@mitchbenefield8783]

Low pressure oil pump

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

No. The video shows what we found, along with the fix and HPOP pressure while driving it. HPOP is good.

[@jeanmiller8798]

My toe fungus is gone!!!!

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

See? Told you!

[@wrenchesandrants9321]

NEW just means Never Ever Worked

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

HA! I agree 100%

[@michaelweinzettel-9443]

Watching this was just frustrating to me. Should have watched the spill spouts on the injectors. You knew the problem was the pass side injectors. Started after installing the drivers side injectors. Why did you put 8 injectors in. By over repairing the vehicle you opened up new problems. I have never seen a Ford 7.3 injector faulty right out of the box. Ford makes an upgrade air filter system that uses a filter similar in style to the 6.0l diesel.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Why did I put 8 injectors in it? We did so because the ones in it were most likely several hundered thousand miles old. So it got 8 new injectors. Drivers side got 4 injectors, truck started & ran - no issues on driver's side Passenger's side was done - no start. So we pulled the 4 ON THE PASSENGER SIDE. We didn't touch the driver's side. I hear ya on the injector exhaust ports. Had I been thinking, I would have seen the oil bypassing. As they say. Hindsight is always 20/20.

[@happyslapstone9552]

drive much???

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yes

[@stellaredruby2003]

I like to talk, I like to hear myself talk & then talk some more. Good lord, way to much talking & not enough fixing.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

No worries, there is a little slider at the bottom of the video. Just click and grab it. You can scroll anywhere in the video you want. Works very well. About 99.6% of people want the info. The rest don't. The slider is the answer

[@13yearsaprepperr.jtilbury.51]

@@ProjectTimeGarage more Talking please ! As they say open your ears and learn keep them closed and learn nothing ! Rob NSW Australia

[@LVCJXXX]

You gonna need a new starter before long...

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Probably needs one now....