FAIL! F250 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel Injector Replacement Goes Horribly Wrong!

Injector replacement on a 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel F250 Goes Wong!!
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[@TroyBoyReviews]

You earned my thumb up when the music started playing while he was oiling up the injector 😂 please feel free to share this in your video if you would like 😂😂

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

LOL, I'm gonna pin this comment!

[@TroyBoyReviews]

@@ProjectTimeGarage 😂😂😂

[@windstalker101]

Sometime ago I replaced all of my injectors. I also replaced the undercover wiring harness/valve cover gasket. Took my time, and thought I did a good job. The truck absolutely refused to start. I have a regular job and this was a weekend project. (Turned into multiple weekends) After many trials and tribulations, and much stress, I figured out that the doorman gasket/ harness set on the passenger side had a dead short. It smoked my injector driver module. Replaced the The IDM $$$$, used my old factory gasket/ harness, and the truck fired right up. That was a year ago. Still runs like a champ. Now I always go OEM. I don't care how much it costs. It's the only way to go on the 7.3. Although not as hard to figure out, I had a similar problem earlier with the IPR. But you got to hit me in the head more than once to get me to pay attention.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Ouch those Dorman parts will get you. We did get the truck fixed. Full video coming tonight at 6

[@williamcarnero9595]

Dorman is junk nowadays big mistake. Nothing they make is good

[@jpiz3122]

I come across your page about a scanner review. Glad I did. I enjoy watching a project evolve especially ones that were a cheap but golden find. I’m a Ford guy as are my kids. We have 2 projects for the 2 older boys when it comes time for them to get their license. Love the knowledge and explanation of things. Great videos and I hope they continue.. thanks

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Thanks and welcome aboard!

[@iviaverick52]

Thanks for making this! my '01 F250 has 250k miles on the original injectors and they are due for a replacement soon. This definitely helped me see what all is required for the process.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Awesome, I have another more in-depth 7.3 injector video on my channel as well. Have a look at it.

[@jeffreystefani7739]

Take both external plugs off the REAR of both cylinder heads on the hpo rail, turn it over and bleed all the air out if any and let some oil pour out of the hpo rail, make sure the truck is nose down to assure all air is out.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yep, thanks!!

[@robertsmith987]

this video healed grandma she walks again after 55 years mind you she is 134 years old lol!!!love your videos sir

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Hell yeah!! Cures camel toe too!!

[@poweredbyfaith]

When I do injectors on 7.3's I plug the block heater in and get the engine warmed up. This makes the injector drop right in :)

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Oh, that's great idea! Never thought about it. Thanks for sharing that!!

[@1966oldsguy]

I do the same if I’m working on the fuel system in the OBS 7.3s as well. Helps it start much easier too when the work is done

[@CUSTOMWORKS7.3PSD]

I,ve pulled trucks into my shop where the HPOP did take a dump after replacement simple dead head test will confirm, I've seen connection at injectors not making contact, injector o rings not seated all the way blowing oil out and torn o rings and last the fuse blown

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I was starting to suspect everything for a little while there. We got back into it yesterday and found/fixed the problem. I'll have a video up on Friday explaining it all.

[@bambinothegreat9245]

Keep up the good work with these 7.3 videos!!

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Thank you!

[@ianmillard907]

One thing you can do to speed up restarting the truck is pull the inspection plug on the HPOP resivour and fill it with oil. You have to do it two or three times and the thing fires right up. Only takes a week to start rather than two, and doesn't melt the starter.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Good info!

[@usmcmustang2972]

Your hard start was probably the LPOP... the most common problem in cold weather starting when you don't use the block heater.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Check out the followup video. It turned out to be one of the new injectors bad. Bypassing oil.

[@swapitshop7379]

Try NAPA Sil-Glyde next time to keep copper washer seated onto injector. Also works great for injector o rings.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Good info, thanks!

[@Mr-er6fg]

Just a dab of gun grease will hold the washers on.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

@@Mr-er6fg good info' thanks!

[@JLCmike4014]

I’m curious to know what injector is in #7 since the solenoid body is different from the rest (excluding the AE #8). Obviously a massive high pressure leak. Check your fuel tank to see if any oil is sitting on top of the fuel. If you ripped an o-ring the oil would be in the fuel tank. If it was injector cups it’d be diesel fuel in the coolant. Also i like to use grease on the o-rings instead of oil, the injectors go in easier that way but that’s just my opinion.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Good info, thanks!!

[@jeffreypinder9398]

When you pull the 2 plugs per bank to relieve the oil in the logs, where does it go? Guessing it runs forward since the truck rear is jacked up? Drain bucket or ? Do you have to add oil to compensate for lost oil prior to cranking engine up to prime the two pumps? Why does the #7 injector have a blue connector as opposed to yellow like the other 3 on the left bank around the 19:00 time stamp? Must be on the right side as it started after the left bank replacements accomplished. Great tutorial even though was a "hiccup".

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

On the 2 plugs, when you pull them, the oil drains back into the oil pan through the drainback holes in the head, these are the same ports where the top-end oiling for the valvetrain assembly drains back when the engine is running. #7 has a different color solenoid since these injectors are built by Full Force Diesel. Not all solenoids were the same color originally since they came from different manufacturers. It doesn't change their operation, though. Yep, we found the issue on the right side. Full video coming on Friday.

[@jeffreypinder9398]

@@ProjectTimeGarage Thanks for the clarification. Looking forward to Friday's video.

[@adamgoldberg6206]

I found the previous person put all ad injectors 8 should be ae ??

[@treeofliberty4407]

I know this is an older vehicle. How would i determine a stuck open fuel injector on my 7.3? Im sure its a open fuel injector, have both my valve covers off and checked the oil coming out of the injectors and they all oil, i know this probably wont even matter since its open and not closed. I bought a 200 dollar scan tool that doesnt buzz codes. So im at a crossroad now. Thanks.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

If an injector is stuck open, it will dump diesel into the cylinder. This usually will do bad things to connecting rods. It can easily "hydraulic" a cylinder.

[@audioface420]

Did you guys not feel the need to swap injector cups? I thought about doing cups when I do my injectiors

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I'm on the fence. I've only ran across one set of cups that were leaking. I'm usually happy to just do injectors.

[@calvinhill1564]

Hey hope you well, maybe you can help me, i change injector cups and put o rings on the injectors... pulled glow plugs out and tried to turn the motor and it barely turns, what could be wrong and how do i solve it

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

If the engine won't turn something is wrong.i suggest using a borescope to look into the cylinders. Something is preventing it from turning m

[@calvinhill1564]

It will turn but barely turns real slow not spinning, battery and starter are good, I'm thinking it has a little hydrolock and is there any way to free the cylinder

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

@@calvinhill1564 of all the glow plugs are out, it cannot hydrolock.

[@calvinhill1564]

Okay, so are the cylinders stiff tight how can i free up the cylinder any ideas...

[@bigug2521]

I believe this truck has a tablet that is hooked up inside the truck that gives a digital read out of all his gauges like his pot pressure his EGT and stuff like that I was wondering how did you do that?

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Have a look at my other videos. I have one covering setting it all up.

[@TheMoparGarage]

When the music came on during the injector oiling process 😂😂😂

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Lol, I thought so too!

[@TheMoparGarage]

@@ProjectTimeGarage if it is an injector o ring issue, at least you know what side it’s on. Starting it after the first 4 was such a smart move. I wish I had suggestions for you. The only diesel I’d be any help with at all is a Cummins, and even then I’m not much of a diesel expert. This ford high pressure oil deal is so interesting to me, I didn’t even know it was a thing!

[@robertgriffin7569]

Hey fellas, Love the videos... big red is looking real good..she sounds good too. Love the 7.3 powerstroke, only fomoco diesel worth owning,(IMHO) even if it is an IH design. Gramps used to say no one ever got anywhere reading books, get your hands dirty, and if it aint broke dont fix it, hahaha god bless him. I think he was always half rt. He also was a dyed in the wool guy, He never used anything but OEM Ford stuff..."junk from jina, is junk from jina.. he,d say, lol. smart man. Dont forget sensors/calibration/PCM interpretation, damn computers base a lot on their input. Well good job in any event.. likely something recently swapped, I,m guessing.. Thanx agin for the vids.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Thanks for watching, and yep, Gramps was right.

[@jaredtalbot2159]

I replaced the injectors and wiring harness on mine and just a day or so later the HPOP went completely bad. Had the same issue it would crank and not build enough oil pressure to open up the injectors and make them fire.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

We figured it out Monday the 6th. It's fixed now and back on the road. Full video coming Friday!!

[@jaredtalbot2159]

That's awesome so glad to hear !! Just have to love the older diesel's, they can be a pain sometimes but definitely worth it !

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

@@jaredtalbot2159 Yup, agree 100%

[@shakes7333]

My biggest thing is key FOBs and owner's manuals. Why people toss their owners manuals is beyond me!

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

....and floormats. How does one lose their floormats?

[@adamgoldberg6206]

My son has a 1999 f250 when it gets worm driving it gets real loud and falls on its face but never stalls you think 8 injector is bad

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I don't think you can tell which injector is bad by loss of power when warm, but I will tell you that most of the time a bad injector manifests when cold. I would be more interested in what's going on with the High Pressure Oil Pump (HPOP). When you are under hard acceleration, that pump should be making about 3,000psi. When the pumps get tired, you'll find that they cannot make enough pressure to keep up, this is usually what leads to them being weak under hot, hard acceleration. I have a video on my channel showing how to use an android tablet along with a cheap OBD2 reader from Amazon to see what those pressures look like.

[@joedoakes8307]

What does a rebuilt set of 7.3 injectors run ?

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

$1,100ish depending on where you go.

[@Lonewolf23-26]

Curious to see you check the hpop and like, I’ve been questioning rather mines going truck just seems sluggish compared to the way everyone talks about the power of these motors. It’s an excursion so she’s heavy but curious to see how you explain it. Your videos have been a huge help in my restoration of what my kid calls “the man van”

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Awesome, love those Excursions - They're getting pricey these days. I have a video coming on Friday where we identify and fix the issue. I do some more talking about the HPOP also.

[@Lonewolf23-26]

@@ProjectTimeGarage looking forward to that! Always enjoy your content! If I didn’t live so far away I’d buy you a beer and turn a wrench with you!

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

@@Lonewolf23-26 ha ha, love some beer and wrenches

[@richardbarkley9909]

IMHO the "6637" air filter mod is a very crude unit. As long as the original airbox is not damaged Motorcraft, Purolator and even Fram make a HD (Thicker) drop in panel filter and I believe they are dry impregnated with something to catch even more dirt.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Good info, thanks!

[@oldgold8236]

Great video, you get it started yet? If so what did you figure out?

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yep, there's another video on the truck. In fact there's an entire series on this truck on my channel. I think there's five or six videos on it now

[@kemicalx17]

Nice explanation good video

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Thanks a lot

[@MrSaabviggen]

air test it.. IF the IPR and ICP have air itl read 250 psi.. But i did just did this same thing and JUST went through it i had a crank no start pressure tested and found #4 had a bypass situation, with 175 psi air heard the leak clear as day.. pulled out reseated it and its all good now.. also can try unplugging the ICP it defaults over 500 which is the trigger to start..

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

We just found/fixed the problem yesterday. Full video coming friday.

[@patrickmcghee.]

I have the same problem.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Hopefully yours is on the driver's side, much easier access.

[@dugsdub1981]

How long did this job take yall? I'm debating on doing it myself rather paying a shop big bucks

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

3 hours or so. Not a bad job at all

[@dugsdub1981]

@ProjectTimeGarage looks like I'm ordering parts from riffraff diesel tonight.

[@seanfattireguythomas2994]

I like the the Shelby on the lift

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Thanks, I have a few videos of it on my channel.

[@10-4JackWagon]

That would have to be one hell of a o ring problem. before you start pulling out injectors I'd run a buzz test and make sure that bank is getting signal. The delay in building any pressure but then starting to build could be explained by air trapped in the rail, which can't work through the injectors on that side if they aren't firing. Best of luck whatever it turns out to be!

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

That was my thinking too. We buzzed them and all were healthy and firing. If it's a leak, it's a major one. Monday is the day we find out what's going on. Wish us luck.

[@monkeywrench8990]

My guess would be a pinched o ring on the injector, or it didn't seat properly could even be a bad injector. I have had a bad reman injector that didn't work out of the box. Swapped it out on warranty problem fixed. Run it with the valve cover off, which will point you in the right direction. At least you know it's 1357 on the passenger side.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

We got the issue found and fixed yesterday. Video coming on Friday with all the juicy details. I can say for sure, that one of your guesses is spot-on.

[@kingchrisss777]

You dont have to take the plugs out tho right as long as you keep the glow plugs out and turn the engine over your getting it out no matter what just more of a mess right ?

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

True, just trying to keep as much material as possible out of the cylinders

[@kingchrisss777]

@@ProjectTimeGarage I was just making sure because I just put injectors in myself and just waiting on the gaskets to come in. But hey I loved the video I hope you guys get big red running she’s a beauty !

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

@@kingchrisss777 thanks man!! Good luck with your injectors.

[@JLCmike4014]

I personally prefer to use a fluid evacuator with a clear hose on it to suck all the fluid that falls into the cylinders rather than take the glow plugs out or remove the small oil rail plugs. What little fluid you can’t get out won’t hurt the engine.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

@@JLCmike4014 cool, good info!!

[@7.3strokemaster16]

Air in the oil rail or oil reservoir is empty and also could be IPR

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

HPOP and rails are full. Must be IPR or injector bypassing.

[@chuckwwillingham530]

I find it really silly no one on youtube prefills oil cavities....

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Me too

[@doyyeee1269]

background 🎵🤯👍

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

What's the exploding head emoji mean?

[@Raydarman1]

After putting it all together crack open those fuel lines to purge out the air. Otherwise you blow the air through the injectors.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

On the HEUI injected engines, the fuel rail is cast into the head unlike standard diesel engines with an injection pump and external high pressure lines. The only way to bleed air from the system is by turning the engine over. Usually they prime themselves in a matter of seconds, though

[@Raydarman1]

@@ProjectTimeGarage I have the FRX return to the fuel bowl from Riffraff to prevent blowing the air through the injectors

[@trmclaren]

Btw you don't have to remove the A/C compressor.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

No, you don't have to, but if you want to film the process, it sure helps. Takes very little time too.

[@unheimliche9410]

wheres the mr50 update?

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Funny you should ask that. I just picked up the gas tank from the painter last week. They still haven't gotten to it. Guess I'm going to do it myself.

[@NoFoCo503]

Check your fuel filter bowl

[@NoFoCo503]

Cut or bad injector o-ring will bypass oil to fuel

[@NoFoCo503]

Or over-tightening an oil rail plug can ruin an o-ring also

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Good info. We found/fixed the problem yesterday. Full video coming on Friday.

[@royquesada5295]

You show to pull the rubber tip off the nozzle of injector, but you don't show the #8 injector difference???

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

#8 is the AE. I did show that. One of the injectors, #7 I think had a different color solenoid, but that's normal with reman injectors.

[@royquesada5295]

It was a quick glance I see.

[@22goDpeehs]

Roy, adjust the playback speed to slowest possible and it will magically become a slow glance Great video, fellas

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

​@@22goDpeehs Thanks!

[@jwblount7802]

if it is an aftermarket hpop it will take a dump real quick. Done went through 2 of them in the last 5 years.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

As fast as we can tell, this is the original HPOP.

[@johnschmidt5388]

I had same problem went with used oem hpop fine now

[@M_Phipps0520]

Bad check valve in hpop

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Sure could be, but strange it happens right after injector replacement.

[@kellykramer2237]

Icp sensor

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Idk, ICP and IPR were changed last month. We used OEM Motorcraft parts

[@mayralopez1000]

I hop empty maybe add extra oil

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Sure did. Topped it off.

[@royquesada5295]

I say it's the Low Pressue Pump. Let us know.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Idk, the LPOP is building almost 50psi.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

More info coming Friday, so stay tuned.

[@matthewjack9950]

High pressure oil leak

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I 100% agree. Just gotta find it

[@TheDracfink]

lmao @ the eye boogers reason to subscribe

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yep, we strive to cure all sorts of maladies.

[@chanchousa3457]

Even in your other injectors videos you don’t show how you take injector # 8 out too many short cuts not accurate .

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Number 8 Injector comes out exactly the same as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7. There's literally no difference at all. Kind of like airing up a tire - if you do one, you'll know how to do the others.

[@tomoconnor7528]

I cant believe you went thru all of that and not change the injector cups.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I typically never do unless they are leaking. The only failure point is the brass cracking or the retainer compound failing. Overall, I've never had any failures doing it this way.

[@tomoconnor7528]

@@ProjectTimeGarage I just changed my injectors. Ive owned it since new. never had a problem ever. Then one day she just wouldent fire. In changing the injectors a man said just to do the cups. And BAM 6 of the 8 cups were cracked

[@MrCummins93]

I am new here why does number 8 take different one

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

It was a Ford TSB back in 1999ish. Basically, the #8 injector is the end of the line, so pressure was creating a knocking noise. People were bringing their trucks to the dealer mistakenly thinking it had a rod knock. The AE injector in 8 solves this noise.

[@MrCummins93]

Thank you for information

[@patrickmcghee.]

Noise, that is the only reason.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

@@patrickmcghee. 👍 yep

[@eatadickutubenazis]

The whole problem is they didn't go with Cummings. I'm sorry for your luck but these things are trash. Get it running and sell that pig.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Eh, I've never had any issue with the 7.3's They're well known for being million mile engines in everything from trucks, busses and medium duty trucks.