Fixing One-Off Pokémon Evolution Items

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Emperor Cubone

Emperor Cubone

3 жыл бұрын

With hundreds of Pokémon out there you're gonna have some weird, out of place evolution methods, sometimes resulting in a unique item that literally does nothing else. So let's aim to improve the situation by making the items more useful, or getting rid of them completely and have these Pokémon evolve ANY other way...

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@seisner6655
@seisner6655 3 жыл бұрын
We need an NPC named "the Trader" in the games that will trade any pokemon with the user and then trade back immediately, so you just go to him when you need to trade evolve.
@ClownPuncher139
@ClownPuncher139 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely yes! Though I think to balance it, it would have to be a decent bit into the game, maybe a bit less than halfway, and probably cost money. Maybe a different currency than Pokedollars, just so it isn’t a free way to get stupidly powerful Pokémon before the 3rd gym.
@commentingcommenter1230
@commentingcommenter1230 3 жыл бұрын
@@ClownPuncher139 Instead, perhaps you'd need to trade away another trade mid evolution in order to get your original Pokemon back. Say you trade him a Graveler, it evolves, but he won't trade it back until you give him another mid trade evolution.
@aerohydreigon1101
@aerohydreigon1101 3 жыл бұрын
It should cost from $500-$2500
@modelomegatyler
@modelomegatyler 3 жыл бұрын
@@commentingcommenter1230 so like, you just go catch a trade evolving pokemon you don't want, give it to him so he'll release your kidnapped pokemon, then be stuck with that pokemon you didn't want on his hands the next time you wanna evolve a trade pokemon?
@chiefgitsu
@chiefgitsu 3 жыл бұрын
this is good but should come with quests
@ladle1003
@ladle1003 3 жыл бұрын
The protector could be used like an assault vest, but for physical defense.
@noodlesandeggs1512
@noodlesandeggs1512 2 жыл бұрын
I love that idea. I also think that Grimsnarl/ Alolan marowak should use the dusk stone and Hatterene/ Alolan Raichu to use the shiny stone to evolve
@TKnHappyNess
@TKnHappyNess 3 жыл бұрын
Trade evolutions are a pain, especially in Sword and Shield because you either need another Switch or someone trustworthy, moreso when it comes to trade evolution shinies
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! I got a shiny Spritzee and had to try and trade it to myself on the GTS with ridiculous demands; it was very nerve-wracking...
@TheEmeraldWeirdo
@TheEmeraldWeirdo 3 жыл бұрын
That's funny, the only trade evolutions I'm currently missing in my copy of Sword are Aromatisse, Porygon2 and Porygon-Z. 'cause, y'know, you can CATCH ALL THE OTHERS IN THE WILD NOW.
@shadowwizard2383
@shadowwizard2383 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmeraldWeirdo that is true but not everyone wants to catch the trade evolutions in the wild and loves to have ghastly and train it up to huanter and then has to get someone they trust to trade because they put a lot of work for this pokemon. Best solution put a NPC that trades and trades back your pokemon to evolve are they could have the PC have that function to get more use sense we don't have to keep going to it to exchange pokemon.
@TheEmeraldWeirdo
@TheEmeraldWeirdo 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowwizard2383 I understand that a lot of fans prefer raise their Pokemon right up from scratch, but that's just how the game works: if you want a Gengar, you have to trade with someone. The whole point of the trading mechanic was to encourage people to interact with each other. Bringing people together was one of Satoshi Tajiri's main goals when creating the original games, and it'd be disrespectful to remove one of the features intended to do that just because a relative few fans find it inconvenient.
@shadowwizard2383
@shadowwizard2383 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmeraldWeirdo I'm not saying to remove trades just let us do trade evos by ourselves in game we will still have version exclusive Pokemon to trade which is fun
@DigiRangerScott
@DigiRangerScott 3 жыл бұрын
The Oval Stone is a play egg for Happiny's pouch. It doesn't make sense for it to evolve the other babies
@zjzr08
@zjzr08 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's very Happiny connected, lore wise.
@KinjiroTheThunder
@KinjiroTheThunder 3 жыл бұрын
As a matter of fact, Happiny doesn't evolve without holding it, which makes it rather strange when comparing it to other stones, which are consumable from the Bag itself
@dorkenspache8353
@dorkenspache8353 3 жыл бұрын
@@KinjiroTheThunder What is weird is that it has the option to be used, but it cannot be used as a stone
@gabriellockwood2780
@gabriellockwood2780 3 жыл бұрын
Pokémon: **Has various one off items that clutter up bag.** Pokémon GO: *"Sinnoh Stone", "Unova Stone"*
@10forthebigguy61
@10forthebigguy61 3 жыл бұрын
Still doesnt have a johto stone though so still need those dumb one off items.
@gabriellockwood2780
@gabriellockwood2780 3 жыл бұрын
@@10forthebigguy61 Exactly! I was thinking of that recently. Instead of even the "Sun Stone", a single Stone per Region!
@jgr7487
@jgr7487 3 жыл бұрын
Exeggcute: "When cracks increasingly appear on the eggs, Exeggcute is close to evolution" (Ruby & Sapphire Dex entries) also Exeggcute: evolves using the Leaf Stone? why not Lv up, GF??? Banette: "This Pokémon was originally a pitiful plush doll that was thrown away." & "A cursed energy permeated the stuffing of a discarded and forgotten plush doll." (Ruby & Sapphire Dex entries) but Shuppet doesn't evolve by trade, thus never being really "discarded".
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Pokedex pretty much contradicts all the evolution methods...
@adachisans5664
@adachisans5664 3 жыл бұрын
I guess every kid in the Pokémon world is just awful with their dolls....
@zjzr08
@zjzr08 3 жыл бұрын
I think ever since the first Pokedex, it's know that it isn't really accurate even to the in-game world.
@alphabladelm2011
@alphabladelm2011 3 жыл бұрын
Exeggcute could evolve after taking five critical hits. Not all in one battle but overall. Those critical hits would help form the cracks.
@jgr7487
@jgr7487 3 жыл бұрын
@@alphabladelm2011 the idea seems to be that envelope of the seed is giving room for the sprout.
@rainbow_vader
@rainbow_vader 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you could use some of these one off items on pokemon like an evolution stone, like just use a magmarizer on a magmar to get magmortar instead of trading because some of us are lonely and can't trade :(
@TarigonTetradactyl
@TarigonTetradactyl 3 жыл бұрын
Or level them up while holding the item similar to Gligar and Sneasel
@Starlight_Joker
@Starlight_Joker 3 жыл бұрын
And even with the online stuff, you can't really trust a random person to trade it back
@modernkiwi6447
@modernkiwi6447 3 жыл бұрын
that's actually how a lot of fangames and Rom Hacks use these evolution items so at least that idea has been proven to work
@Wal363
@Wal363 3 жыл бұрын
for gen 3, sometimes i change trade evolution items the way you mentioned for itemless, i make the trade evolution obtainable as early as level 1 for the sake of accuracy. after all, you can always evolve them whenever you want
@zjzr08
@zjzr08 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is Pokemon is always meant to have multiplayer as a core concept of the franchise, even in the main story. Same reason why version exclusives exist. I guess they could give a post-game thing so this could be possible. But seems improbable as I said due to it being there since the start (then again the same can be said with the full roster) and it isn't as marketable.
@jeffreymijares3383
@jeffreymijares3383 3 жыл бұрын
Level up the traded pokemon with a natural evolution Alakazam: level up with Twisted Spoon Golem: level up Rokey Helmet Gengar: level up with shadow tag Machamp: level up with Mucle Belt Slowking level up with kings rock as well as politod Sizor and Steelix level up with metal coat We need to get rid of the trading pokemon because its redickulus
@KinjiroTheThunder
@KinjiroTheThunder 3 жыл бұрын
I think you meant to say Spell Tag, Shadow Tag is its ability
@Lordsarefan
@Lordsarefan 3 жыл бұрын
The way to evolve Galarian Slowpoke to Bro/King is utter genious!
@pandaqu7675
@pandaqu7675 3 жыл бұрын
But how would it level up if the shellder is above it in the party? I don't really think it would work
@Lordsarefan
@Lordsarefan 3 жыл бұрын
@@pandaqu7675 EXP share is a thing. Switch training. Candies (XP or rare). Plenty of options.
@noahfaber8265
@noahfaber8265 3 жыл бұрын
Bro King was my nickname in high school
@AzuanOfficial
@AzuanOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Hear, hear!
@xdifficultviper9916
@xdifficultviper9916 3 жыл бұрын
@@pandaqu7675 maybe make it evolve into the different slowmons depending on the gender of the shellders? Like a male makes bro and female makes king
@jessegartung294
@jessegartung294 3 жыл бұрын
I want trade evolution to be removed. And them just to evolve while holding an item
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone 3 жыл бұрын
I've said that about the Evolution Stones themselves for a while now; even if they work for 3-7 Pokemon a piece you easily get more than that per game so let that Fire Stone boost Arcanine a little bit!
@jessegartung294
@jessegartung294 3 жыл бұрын
@@emperorcubone at least they haven’t gone with evolving a Pokémon on how many levels it must gain like in Temtem which focuses on the plot rather than a game. Because it just some dude who wanted to create a hybrid that’s it mean every crime that the clan does is pointless
@nickdentoom1173
@nickdentoom1173 3 жыл бұрын
I have a theory of my own that someone makes the Pokedex entries, while another person makes the evolution method and they don't work together. I think Gamefreak wants to get rid of Trade Evolutions as a whole or generally make them more accesible and that is why most of them are catchable in the wild in Sword and Shield.
@erikdeaf9740
@erikdeaf9740 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree, Jesse Gartung. I don’t want shiny certain Pokémon like a shiny Haunter, a shiny Scyther, and a shiny Karrablast stolen.
@KinjiroTheThunder
@KinjiroTheThunder 3 жыл бұрын
Also, can we talk about how only 4 fire type Pokémon in the entire existence of the game evolve via FIRE STONE(Growlithe, Vulpix, Pansear, Eevee)
@rasmusn.e.m1064
@rasmusn.e.m1064 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of these I don't think make a lot of sense, but the Galarian Slowpoke evolutions were perfect, so you get a like xD
@RenzuPlays
@RenzuPlays 3 жыл бұрын
You could’ve also used Pokémon Go as a further bit of evidence as they decided to scrap one-off evolution items in Gens 4 and onward and just create “Sinnoh Stones” and “Unova Stones,” etc.
@xdifficultviper9916
@xdifficultviper9916 3 жыл бұрын
True but that’s for ease of use, after gen 2 added traditional evo items there was a bit of an outcry because it takes up bag space and is very random on which item you can get even through the guaranteed ways of getting one of the items
@thesardonicrenegade3065
@thesardonicrenegade3065 3 жыл бұрын
I think Metal Coat, Sun Stone, King's Rock, Dragon Scale and Up-Grade all are in Pokemon GO as well
@MicoDossun
@MicoDossun 3 жыл бұрын
@@xdifficultviper9916 I wish they had foresight on this cause everyone saw it coming the second they announced evolution items. If only there were just a johto stone
@Saviarai-Dravolika
@Saviarai-Dravolika 3 жыл бұрын
I think Pokemon should evolve via stones too, aside from their location dependent shenanigans. Like Vikavolt evolving from a Charjabug by using Thunderstone, or Eevee evolving into a Glaceon using Ice Stone. That makes sense bc you can get some of your fave Pokemon by just using stones, not just waiting for Mt. Lanakila for just a random Crabrawler to evolve literally near the frickin league.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they must have known how bad it was since the Ultra games changed it to let you evolve at the base of the mountain, and get Vikavolt at the Power Plant instead of waiting for the last island you go to. But this change is even more welcome!
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Crabrawler evolves at Mt. Lanakila because it wants to "be at the top", figuratively (as in, it wants to be the best) and literally (because Mt. Lanakila is the highest mountain in Alola), so it wouldn't make _that_ much sense for it to evolve with an Ice Stone. It's still stupid that you can't get Crabominable until so late. They should've given Crabrawler a middle evolution, or at least buffed it's defenses so that it can do somewhat OK with Eviolite.
@EmeraldCrowz
@EmeraldCrowz 3 жыл бұрын
@@emperorcubone I wish they just committed eevee to stone evolutions already for consistency. Sun stone for Espeon, Moon stone for Umbreon, and Shiny Stone for Sylveon.
@Edujs23
@Edujs23 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know if people share this but i would like that stones could be used on every pokémon in a way to get the final form earlier, the drawback would be the same, the pokémon wouldnt be able to learn any moves If eveolved trough stone So you would get i earlier for a good early game but you would need to plan for late game
@zjzr08
@zjzr08 3 жыл бұрын
But will it make sense in the worldbuilding on why Eevee cannot evolve with Leaf Stone and Icy Stone before? I guess I would accept if they explained it, but I don't think they did.
@a-bomb7779
@a-bomb7779 3 жыл бұрын
I think they should offer an alternative to trade evolutions with something like a "Link Stone". That way you could have another way to get them and you could even make it more expensive to still encourage trading.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone 3 жыл бұрын
That would be great! People would even pay money for that...
@pickedceasar1216
@pickedceasar1216 3 жыл бұрын
@@emperorcubone it'd be the only microtransaction I could see people paying for. It's not exactly bad for the consumer either
@zjzr08
@zjzr08 3 жыл бұрын
@@emperorcubone Pay real money or in-game currency?
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 3 жыл бұрын
Every other fan game does this exact idea.
@CGFillertext
@CGFillertext 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertlupa8273 not even just fan games. in PMD you evolve trade evolution Pokemon by having Link Cable and trading item in your treasure bag. Then you go to the evolve place and give it the one or two items, boom, evolved without trading.
@aaronodonoghue1791
@aaronodonoghue1791 3 жыл бұрын
Metal Coat is also used to power up Steel moves. And could Magmortar and Electivire not just be Fire Stone and Thunder Stone?
@Eris250
@Eris250 3 жыл бұрын
Fire Stone and Thunder Stone is too boring. So...
@BlindJedi
@BlindJedi 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eris250 says who? Better than getting some stupid item in the post game
@wulfryanseptim8592
@wulfryanseptim8592 3 жыл бұрын
I think if they wanted to do trade evolutions they cpuldve still used The stones instead of one off items
@xdifficultviper9916
@xdifficultviper9916 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eris250 the problem isn’t with the item, it’s with the trading aspect but all of that is an easy fix if they were more like gliscor or weevil where they just need to level up (with some stipulation like time of day or location) while holding the item
@Eris250
@Eris250 3 жыл бұрын
@@xdifficultviper9916 the trading system sucked, I agree.
@toddmdw
@toddmdw 3 жыл бұрын
everyone: we don't like trade evolutions emperor cubone: let's retroactively change old pokemon so we have even more trade evolutions me, with no friends: great, more pokemon I'll never get to use
@noukan42
@noukan42 3 жыл бұрын
This js not early 2000 anynore. If you have no friends you find a trade request subreddit or something
@toddmdw
@toddmdw 3 жыл бұрын
@@noukan42 Tried that, got scammed on a discord. This is not 2000 anymore, we don't need outdated evolution methods and gameplay mechanics designed to sell more hardware and contrive virality
@David-gj9qr
@David-gj9qr 3 жыл бұрын
@@noukan42 yeah I don't want to trade with a random stranger
@JesskaSentinels
@JesskaSentinels 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Slowpoke should have evolved like that since day 1
@uriolu8413
@uriolu8413 3 жыл бұрын
Probably they didn't because of technical limitations. But I can't understand why they choose a concept like that if it was going to evolve by level.
@Frogboyaidan
@Frogboyaidan 3 жыл бұрын
@@uriolu8413 or king rock trade
@presidenttogekiss635
@presidenttogekiss635 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, I think you´re forgetting the fact that the Deep Sea tooth and scale don´t actually just evolve clampearl, but also double it´s Sp. Atk and Sp.Def respectively. The scale isn´t all that useful, but with the Tooth, Clamperl has a Spatk that rivals DEOXYS-ATTACK. AND IT GETS SHELL SMASH TOO.
@ActualTrash8
@ActualTrash8 3 жыл бұрын
Stop your giving me nightmares
@cronical246
@cronical246 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly that's how they should just handle the slowbro line in general.
@diegorodriguez-fl5kp
@diegorodriguez-fl5kp 3 жыл бұрын
I think that Evolution item should give the Pokémon that used them to evolve an extra bonus
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone 3 жыл бұрын
That would be great!
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 3 жыл бұрын
Some of them already do.
@diegorodriguez-fl5kp
@diegorodriguez-fl5kp 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertlupa8273 yes but i was thinking something like thicc club on marowak
@tdawgmaster1729
@tdawgmaster1729 3 жыл бұрын
"...the far superior Flapple" Cries in thick pie monster that has carried me to multiple wins in multi battles
@senzu34goat62
@senzu34goat62 3 жыл бұрын
Something I feel like put trade evolutions knowing you have no friends to do it with and I feel like stones are better than going to a stone and leveling up
@RevereShin
@RevereShin 3 жыл бұрын
Day 1:45 Everstone: They still haven’t noticed I’m a lie.
@VeebieWeebie
@VeebieWeebie 3 жыл бұрын
Omg I just noticed-
@darkvoid4710
@darkvoid4710 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of evolution here is more like disturbing rather fixing. We don't need to alter simpler evolution just for the sake of making some item more useful.
@RedDragonForce2
@RedDragonForce2 3 жыл бұрын
I have no complaints about these suggestions. Excellent job, Emperor Cubone!
@GamerFromJump
@GamerFromJump 2 жыл бұрын
Every one-off evolution item should have a secondary function. For example, the Protector should have a defensive purpose.
@tynamolord2430
@tynamolord2430 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion they should have an NPC who will accept your traded Pokémon and trade it back that way you can get any trade evolution
@jakerockznoodles
@jakerockznoodles 3 жыл бұрын
Or have an option where you can force the newly evolved pokemon to be traded back to you rather than relying on trust. You could sweeten it slightly by still having the pokemon and its evolution entered into their pokedex before it's bounced back.
@patrickstreetet3085
@patrickstreetet3085 3 жыл бұрын
Not too bad I was thinking how those items could gain a in battle ability to make them worth getting beyond evolution.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone 3 жыл бұрын
That would be cool too! They mostly disappear after using them to evolve, but that could create an interesting dilemma on whether you want to evolve them then or keep the boosting item for longer...
@patrickstreetet3085
@patrickstreetet3085 3 жыл бұрын
@@emperorcubone exactly.
@Dr._Heinz_Doofenshmirtz
@Dr._Heinz_Doofenshmirtz 3 жыл бұрын
like giving the razor claw attack up or the metal coat defence up
@MrcreeperDXD777
@MrcreeperDXD777 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dr._Heinz_Doofenshmirtz Razor Claw/Fang already gives higher crit chance and Metal Coat powers up Steel-type moves
@Dr._Heinz_Doofenshmirtz
@Dr._Heinz_Doofenshmirtz 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrcreeperDXD777 ah
@gamewisdomgaming
@gamewisdomgaming 3 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story : let's make every Pokémon a trade evolution
@Sleepingfishie
@Sleepingfishie 3 жыл бұрын
All the trade required items should be changed to be the Pokémon must hold the item and level up. Simplifies everything
@AshleyLoDMoM
@AshleyLoDMoM 3 жыл бұрын
Even better, just use the item on the pokemon, like applin
@Jamieswiftie13
@Jamieswiftie13 3 жыл бұрын
I never knew I needed this video in my life!!!
@Usario321
@Usario321 3 жыл бұрын
This guy has the best and most different ideas for videos
@swampy725
@swampy725 3 жыл бұрын
3:06 and the metal cout boosts steel moves like the mystic water for water types , miracle seed for grass types...ect...
@table2.0
@table2.0 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love if the trading mechanic could just be swapped out for ‘level up holding this item’ instead, because trading is just so annoying to facilitate making it worthwhile Or maybe even ‘hold this item and use this evolution stone to evolve’
@Jack-lo5me
@Jack-lo5me 3 жыл бұрын
“Far Superior Flapple” That’s big talk coming from someone in Hugging range! *hugs Appletun* Best boi.
@szadowski
@szadowski 3 жыл бұрын
Flapple is superior to Appletun? I don't think so 😅
@edgaymon9088
@edgaymon9088 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not superior! Appletun is amazing
@szadowski
@szadowski 3 жыл бұрын
@@edgaymon9088 I don't see a giant plushie of flapple 😂 Appletun ftw
@dalec5200
@dalec5200 3 жыл бұрын
How about if instead of through trade they just evolved by using the item on them.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone 3 жыл бұрын
Just make everything function like one of the stones? Yeah, I could go for that; it'd make it a lot easier to do it solo...
@nickdentoom1173
@nickdentoom1173 3 жыл бұрын
Or make them hold said item and level up. Also fine with me.
@dalec5200
@dalec5200 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickdentoom1173 do that for karrablast and shelmet, both level up from the same battle while in party.
@justaman9344
@justaman9344 3 жыл бұрын
10:01 "Its own spread" Was that a intentional food related pun? XD
@nightmonsirecactus5929
@nightmonsirecactus5929 3 жыл бұрын
I just said no for the clampearl part. I agree with getting rid of the trade evo, but I don't like the idea of making the evo gendered exclusive. I already don't like that with gallame and Frosslass and also with some mono gender pokemon. My idea would be more of: Clamperl --ShinyStone> Gorebyss Clamperl --DuskStone> Huntail Or just make it so the item work as evolution item too and do not require the trade. And give more use to them such as making them work as held item not only on clamperl. (Tooth increass attackSpé and scale increass Defspe, but only of clamperl. Maybe make it so they both give a small boost to offensive or defensive stat to any pokemon that hold it instead? )
@EdgarAllan2pointPoe
@EdgarAllan2pointPoe 3 жыл бұрын
I like the lore behind the oval stone but you make a very good point.
@sperryyoungerjr.3985
@sperryyoungerjr.3985 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Ice Stone is one of those items that should've been a thing way back in Gen 4. Eevee's evolution into either Leafeon or Glaceon should've been through evolution stones back then as well.
@TheAuron32
@TheAuron32 2 жыл бұрын
i never thought i would say this: a free to play game solved it, REGIONAL STONES... its insane.
@silverapplestar3236
@silverapplestar3236 3 жыл бұрын
- covers how 'oh since tyrunt would get an item evo, we need to give amaura one' - mentions giving skrelp an item evo, but not clauncher
@tomasprochazka7840
@tomasprochazka7840 3 жыл бұрын
9 minutes after the videos release, the soonest Ive Been in a long time!
@DatHypnoboi
@DatHypnoboi 3 жыл бұрын
The slowpoke evolution could have been really interesting if Gamefreak had implemented it, have shelder not available in the Galar dex, but add it in with the Isle of Armor so that it naturally couldn't evolve before its release
@crowpond3665
@crowpond3665 3 жыл бұрын
Man I haven’t watched your videos in a while, glad I got back into watching you
@diogi_1736
@diogi_1736 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great and interesting video. I've always wondered what other uses evolution items could have and you made good uses for all of them!
@rodidoesburg4061
@rodidoesburg4061 3 жыл бұрын
Always such a creative/original content! Keep up the good work.
@valvadis2360
@valvadis2360 3 жыл бұрын
WHen i read "fixing" i sure didn't think about making more trade-evolutions...
@minipapayo1939
@minipapayo1939 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I found this channel it has really quality content
@FroststormFrenzy
@FroststormFrenzy 2 жыл бұрын
You could also use a Metal Coat for Meltan. Melmetal is, well, made of metal, and Meltan already eat metal objects, so it'd make sense to use a metal item to evolve a metal pokemon into a bigger metal pokemon.
@KingFlex73
@KingFlex73 3 жыл бұрын
This was really cool, I’d love to see another one of these!
@Chalkra
@Chalkra 3 жыл бұрын
You know how the Chinese language has traditional and simplified? Now Pokemon does too.
@jackofdiamonds7303
@jackofdiamonds7303 2 жыл бұрын
Coming back to this video after Legends Arceus and the Link Cable.
@HmHatimRoco
@HmHatimRoco 3 жыл бұрын
In the Pokemon Black rom hack i made i got rid of all those trade evolutions and just made it so you need to "use" for example a Fighting Gem on Machoke or Psychic gem on Kadabra to make them evolve. Never was a fan oftrade evolutions or other obscure evolution methods.
@typemasters2871
@typemasters2871 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like trade evolution items should AT LEAST be given in battle effects Then they will be more than just “evolution item for X Pokemon”
@dravenamor6052
@dravenamor6052 3 жыл бұрын
Love the slowpoke evolution idea! PERFECT
@honeyham6788
@honeyham6788 3 жыл бұрын
honestly this was always a huge pet-peeve of mine and I'm glad you agree
@artimist0315
@artimist0315 3 жыл бұрын
I hate the gen 8 évolution méthode because they forces you to go on Google or buy a guide to evolve your pokémon and even then it's barely understandable. In previous generations, you could evolve your pokémon by accident or hear a rumour in the playground saying that you need to bring your glaceon near the frozen stone. I don't imagine any kid dicovering how to evolve milcery or explaining his friend all the different methods to optain alcremie.
@nickdentoom1173
@nickdentoom1173 3 жыл бұрын
The one evolution method that makes me angry is Galarian Yamasks.
@thogthemighty7960
@thogthemighty7960 3 жыл бұрын
In my fakemon region, I have only one item that is used to evolve a single pokemon. However, that's for game-balancing reasons. The Weathered Idol can evolve a certain ordinary breedable pokemon into a breedable legendary. By making it evolve through an item you can only obtain once, it prevents the player from evolving an army of legendary pokemon. So when you are done, you can breed the legendary to get as many of its pre-evolutions as you want, but you can't evolve any of them (unless you obtained a second one through a trade).
@NuncleG
@NuncleG 3 жыл бұрын
What would be even cooler if Slowbro had 3 different shiny variations. Using a shiny Shellder and a normal Slowpoke gets you one, visa versa and one where both are shiny. Same with Slowking, Mantine, Calyrex and Necrozma.
@pulim-v
@pulim-v 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently Clamperl's evolution items work like the Light Ball and Thick Club (with one of them increasing Special Attack and the other boosting Special Defense) and I think if they were fused and Clamperl just used a Dawn Stone it'd make sense to have a single item boost both since it's not that powerful of an evolutionary line
@jeffhirsh5722
@jeffhirsh5722 3 жыл бұрын
the tart apple and sweet apple aren't version exclusive. the sweet apple is only 1% in Sword and the Tart apple is only 1% in Shield because i have Sword and 9/10 times i get the tart apple but every week or so i'll get a sweet apple or two it's just really rare
@bogdanvasilevskij5508
@bogdanvasilevskij5508 3 жыл бұрын
lets just be honest, what smart human being would think of a pokemon that looks like a cup of tea
@zememerr2329
@zememerr2329 3 жыл бұрын
I think some of the evolution methods you suggested seem pretty forced and would honestly be worse than what we already have. I feel like having Type:Null evolving from friendship is an important part of their lore, since it’s only free from its head binding when it finds a trainer it can truly trust. Having it just evolve with an Upgrade would just make it more much more Artificial and in-genuine
@Luigifan18
@Luigifan18 Жыл бұрын
Metal Coat is also part of the "boost the power of moves of a certain type" held item class, specifically boosting Steel-type moves by 20%. Gen II introduced items of this sort for each type (except for Fairy, which didn't exist yet), but I think the Metal Coat was the only one to be involved in evolution. (And, no, Kingdra's Dragon Scale isn't the Dragon-boosting item. That's a different item called the Dragon Fang. It's a pain, I know.)
@liliflower1376
@liliflower1376 2 жыл бұрын
That method of slowpoke evolving is genius and I want ittt
@marleonka.
@marleonka. 2 жыл бұрын
*Looking at the Thumbnail* Ah yes, my favorite Evolution Items: Leftovers and Grassium-Z
@0815UserII
@0815UserII Жыл бұрын
For the Slowpoke line, I would actually love it if they went back to the lore and used a permanent variant of how Calyrex switches forms so it actually combines with a Shellder. The distinction between Slowbro and Slowking could be dependent on one of a number of factors, be it the position within the party, the Slowpoke holding Kings's Rock or knowing a specific move or something else, maybe even a deliberate choice. Or maybe even trigger the option to evolve Slowbro when defeating a wild Shellder with it, with the same method to determine what it evolves into. In that case, it might also be cool to have a set of evolutions with Shellder as the dominant part and derived from Cloyster with the reverse trigger, defeating a wild Slowbro with Shellder, with a split depending on the Slowbro variant, at least if we don't get Shellder/Cloyster variants. Might be a nice way to finally get Ice-Poison Pokemon (and add a few more Ice-Psychic ones).
@Mixraker45
@Mixraker45 3 жыл бұрын
Love most of these ideas.
@joychowdhury9270
@joychowdhury9270 2 жыл бұрын
I'm genuinely suprised they didn't assign the moon/dusk stone to umbreon & the sun/dawn stone to espeon already. Heck the shiny stone could go to sylveon.
@cyndamon
@cyndamon 3 жыл бұрын
For me I think Electabuzz learning Thunder and Magmar learning Fire blast
@grrgrrgrr0202
@grrgrrgrr0202 Жыл бұрын
Actually they should give them signature moves (probably a somewhat weaker version of Bolt Strike/Blue Flare) and make them evolve when they know that move. Remember that Evire still has a crappy Physical Stab.
@Pokemichael
@Pokemichael 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think they should have just made all the eeveelutions into stones.
@pokefandylan2117
@pokefandylan2117 3 жыл бұрын
Also you forgot to mention that they didn't want you to be able to evolve the Galarian Slowpoke into Galarian Slowking with Slowbro's item before the Crown Tundra expansion came out
@lipika2841
@lipika2841 3 жыл бұрын
Could you think of a evolution methods for Kubfu n Meltan?
@TheEmeraldWeirdo
@TheEmeraldWeirdo 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'd just give all of the trade items secondary uses like how the King's Rock and Metal Coat have them. Like, the Protector could be a counterpart to the Assault Vest, boosting the Defense stat if the Pokemon knows nothing but attacking moves. The Magmarizer could either boost the burn chance of any move that can cause burns or add a burn chance to any attacking move (with the Electirizer doing the same with paralysis). I mean, you're free to have your own opinion, but most of the ideas you listed are just making things more complicated. There's not much point in changing an evolution unless you're making it LESS complicated. Though, I do agree with you on the Sinistea thing. There's literally no point other than a gimmick. I mean, maybe if the Antique Form had a different Ability or something, that'd be one thing...
@animalia5554
@animalia5554 3 жыл бұрын
What happens if we like convoluted evolutions?
@pizza8238
@pizza8238 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like a good way to evolve slowpoke into its glarian forms are to have it battle Shelder and slowpoke uses either the moves headbutt or tackle and if Sheldon uses bite the slowpoke evolves depending on which move it used
@cuddlebug9699
@cuddlebug9699 2 жыл бұрын
How to fix annoying items for evolutions:Make more Pokemon need them!
@5daysofcoffee
@5daysofcoffee 3 жыл бұрын
So I have both apples in my version of shield, I don’t remember how I got them. I haven’t bothered trying to evolve it yet. Did they do an update recently, does one apple only work in each version or is there something else going on?
@bazingatronz5114
@bazingatronz5114 3 жыл бұрын
Man i loved how nosepass and magneton evolved, with the magnetic field altering their physiology
@ZeldagigafanMatthew
@ZeldagigafanMatthew 3 жыл бұрын
The issue with trade evolutions is more so the fact that, unless you talk to EVERY npc, it's something you are expected to just know, especially when it comes to Shellmet and Karrablast. Also, about the Slowpoke Shelldar connection, what about Pokemon Snap?
@ruchick6155
@ruchick6155 3 жыл бұрын
I saw thinking with the slowpoke line, fainting or beating shellder? If it loses, bro and King and if it wins
@edwardramos4591
@edwardramos4591 2 жыл бұрын
Here are my alternative methods for the trade evolutions. Alakazam, Machamp, Golem, and Gengar: Level Up while holding a type-enhancing item (Twisted Spoon for Alakazam, Black Belt for Machamp, Soft Sand for Kanto Golem, Magnet for Alola Golem, Spell Tag for Gengar) King's Rock and Metal Coat Evolutions: Change the condition from trade while holding to Level Up while holding. Kingdra: Make the Dragon Scale work more like a Stone. Porygon: Level Up while holding the Upgrade and Dubious Disc. Huntail and Gorebyss: Make the Deep Sea parts work like Stones. Milotic: Level Up during the day while holding the Prism Scale. Rhyperior: Change the evolution into a move-based evolution (Rock Wrecker), and turn the Protector into a physical version of the Assault Vest. Electivire and Magmortar: Make the Electirizer and Magmarizer work like Stones. Dusknoir: Level Up at night while holding the Reaper Cloth. Gigalith and Conkeldurr: Make them into more conventional Level Up evolutions (as they should have been in the first place, let's be real) Escavalier and Accelgor: I'll keep them the same since their dynamic seems intrinsically tied to trading. Aromatisse: Make the Sachet work like a Stone. Slurpuff: Make the Whipped Dream work like a Stone. Trevenant: Level Up at night while holding a Spell Tag. Gourgeist: Level Up at night while holding a Charcoal.
@alexmac8000
@alexmac8000 3 жыл бұрын
Evolution methods wouldn’t be so annoying if they ACTUALLY TOLD YOU WHAT TO DO IN THE ACTUAL GAME. You literally HAVE to look this stuff up. Why isn’t there a library in game where you can find the information?
@mikemiller8430
@mikemiller8430 2 жыл бұрын
I think there needs to be a list that you do where you replace these evolutions with just stones
@syndere6755
@syndere6755 3 жыл бұрын
Now here's a video idea for you. Reworking the evolution system in Pokemon Go.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone 3 жыл бұрын
Hah, that would take a lot of work...
@syndere6755
@syndere6755 3 жыл бұрын
@@emperorcubone yes, yes it would.
@Typi
@Typi 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like it'd make sense for there to be a "Trade Charge", where every time you trade, you charge up the item. Once its fully charged, you can select a Pokemon that can evolve from a trade, and evolve it using the Trade Charge.
@liamwhite3522
@liamwhite3522 3 жыл бұрын
Put that idea in wonder trade, if that's still a thing. The traded pokemon evolve if applicable, and after 3-5 traded 'mons, you can choose one in your party to trade evolve without trading.
@gabriellockwood2780
@gabriellockwood2780 Жыл бұрын
The Metal Coat opens in Scarlet/Violet. It's like a sunscreen/ointment type thing, but that makes more sense 😂
@djinsanity3575
@djinsanity3575 3 жыл бұрын
Hey the slowpoke evolution idea sounds awesome.
@hhjan594
@hhjan594 3 жыл бұрын
7:25 Dude, why are you showing us the Lucky egg while talking about the oval stone?
@joshuawilliams8310
@joshuawilliams8310 3 жыл бұрын
Upvoted purely for the Galarian Slowpoke change.
@BestgirlJordanfish
@BestgirlJordanfish 2 жыл бұрын
I think a cool compromise could maybe be getting "trade energy", where if you wonder trade a pokemon you get a point of trade energy. You may spend 10 to evolve a trade-evo pokemon through an NPC.
@EdsonR13
@EdsonR13 3 жыл бұрын
I love your idea for Galarian Slowpoke and I think it should even extend to Kantonian Slowpoke. The lack of association with Shelder in the games always bugged me
@AzazinNote
@AzazinNote 3 жыл бұрын
Metal coat also increases the power of the holder's Steel-type moves.
@dayandere2669
@dayandere2669 2 жыл бұрын
Kabutops evolving into Genesect via Dubious Disc would be hilarious
@gadaboutgriffon4446
@gadaboutgriffon4446 3 жыл бұрын
Also coming up with uses for sellable items. It can be as simple as upgrading other items or the characters outfits
@weebsquit347
@weebsquit347 3 жыл бұрын
For the longest time, i never knew what the Upgrade or Dubious Disc did because the description never mentioned anything about evolution. So I ended up selling those upgrades.
@jeffreymijares3383
@jeffreymijares3383 3 жыл бұрын
Flaple needs a 3rd evolution to make it a sudo as well
@sepiasweetheart
@sepiasweetheart 3 жыл бұрын
I really don't agree with alot of these methods but I enjoy the concept.
@Kaligraphy22
@Kaligraphy22 3 жыл бұрын
Just had a thought. What if the Magmarizer and Electrizer, when held by a pokemon, when they are hit by a contact move, will either burn or paralyze the opposing pokemon? Or if it affected the holder, when contact is made, burns/paralyzes the user? That there is some Switcheroo shenanigans.
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