Fixing YOUR Tornado Kick (with ICY MIKE from Hard2Hurt)

[@SenseiSeth]

if you want better spinning attacks, check out my course!! senseiseth.teachable.com/p/spinningattacks

[@baddreams3850]

No can defense!👍

[@chugwater56]

When you played icey Mike's intro I thought I was watching a hard to hurt video

[@SenseiSeth]

Trent Garrison haha gottttt ya 😉😂

[@danielmcgibbon8200]

I was like wait what

[@HittokiriBatosai]

I still thought I was till I saw this comment

[@mikeydo9567]

"All spinning attack are linear." Mind blown

[@SenseiSeth]

That’s the key!! All of them

[@jeredsizemore3108]

@@SenseiSeth I understand not swinging it around during the spin but technically it's not linear because it's not attacking the center line. The end kick is a round house and it's meant to go around the center line. Kinda threw me off when you said it's all linear.

[@SenseiSeth]

Jered Sizemore you can move your center mass forwards and still rotate

[@SenseiSeth]

👍

[@istvankertesz3134]

The principle is to increase the speed of the attacking limb, and that's the most efficient with a twist/spin. Then, after you have sped up the limb, you release it in a linear movement to minimize the traveled distance at maximized speed. The principle is the same for a proper jab or even a simple front kick, there are very few exceptions. A lead leg front kick and a headbutt maybe.

[@eagleflight2627]

You can cover even more distance by following the tornado kick with a spinning hook kick. Man what a combo

[@SenseiSeth]

I do it all the time! Watch the end clip of the sparring video I posted with Mike!

[@snazdogdbfan251]

@@SenseiSeth the one on this channel or on the h2h channel?

[@SenseiSeth]

Mine, in the outro bit

[@basedbane787]

You mean like you roundhouse to the left side then back hook kick to the right side ? That would be brutal !

[@mattstew6078]

Wannabe fighters-"disrupt his ooda loop" real fighters-"give him a three piece and a soda"

[@SenseiSeth]

“Disrupt his three piece and a soda” totally valid too 😂

[@Listener215]

It’s super annoying how the military starting using ooda loop for like a decade and now everyone outside of the military uses it where it doesn’t belong 😂

[@SenseiSeth]

@@Listener215 lol!

[@no-lf3ds]

Was searching up videos on how to tornado kick and came across this gem! Channel is full of quality content, cheers for the tips!

[@SenseiSeth]

Thanks for the support Nasha! Means a lot to me 🙏

[@9095]

I love how he's such a big karate sceptic, and you just go in and teach him the practical way to apply all the moves he previously dismissed 😅👌

[@klassekl]

A lot of people forget about their hands... but Icy Mike does a good job of keeping his up, in, and in front. Great video!

[@SenseiSeth]

Very true!

[@AndrewAttard78]

I need to perform this kick for my next taekwondo belt test and I'm awful at it. This video is excellent. Thank you.

[@SenseiSeth]

Hope this helps then! Hit me up on insta if you have any more questions!

[@AndrewAttard78]

@@SenseiSeth Thanks Bud. I appreciate it.

[@sheffcoleman3518]

Great video. I’m 45 haven’t done a tornado kick since I was 17 in taekwondo your video help me get one of my prized moves back into shape. Thanks Sensei Seth.

[@CoreyFitchett]

This is makes me want to use tornado kicks in sparring more

[@SenseiSeth]

Can’t hurt to try!!

[@Omriwein]

Sensei Seth I mean unless you land them that can hurt lol

[@kaiserbrutus730]

@@SenseiSeth I'm scared to try cos I worry I'm gonna look stupid if I fail. (I know how to do the Tornado Kick but just don't have the confidence to use it in sparring.)

[@AsRiHack3x2]

@@kaiserbrutus730 that's the point of sparring, you can be an idiot and see what works and doesn't, but I understand.

[@brandonquinte9348]

For me, it's the best spinning kick. The spinning actually helps with power, speed, and closing off distance.

[@davidwilliams4837]

Great video and instruction. My theory: the reason dropping the knee helps is because most have a tendency to "lean away". This removes mass and center from the kick [becomes more of a falling back motion rather than moving INTO the target]. Dropping the knee down helps keep the spine more upright so the hips can advance, open and pivot into the kick. As a Wing Chun practitioner, spine position, rotation and stance is incredibly important. One of the big thieves of power is not being upright [the second is not sinking into our stance]. We often do this without realizing it. It's intriguing to see your approach as I'm less versed in TKD or Karate style kicks. Also: when you state spinning attacks are linear, this is VERY true. Even spinning, we have lines of force and direction [usually easiest to see by knee point or elbow]. I definitely learned from this, and the difference in Mike's kicks after your instruction was impressive. Thank you.

[@SenseiSeth]

Yea I think your theory is pretty reasonable! It’s a lot about the momentum of pulling the knee up too! Thanks for the consistent support bro!

[@davidwilliams4837]

@@SenseiSeth Anytime. Thanks for the great content. Wing Chun is very different, but it teaches the importance of "lines" of force and "center" [connected mass]. Weight [or mass] and "linear" force is applied by the knees or elbows. So, the direction of both determines the "line". Whereas, the wrist can rotate, redirect force [circular motion]. Shoulders are more sling than lever and are better "seated" for power, otherwise they disconnect the arm from the body. This is why when closing in your kick, the knee direction controls the "weight" and mass applied both in the horizontal and vertical plane. Hence, knee "up" [to reduce "weight" and shift] then knee "down" to bring the mass into the kick. Even knee forward allows the momentum to transfer toward the line [the spin happens within the "line" as you state]. In Kempo, you'll find these same "elbow" ideas utilized for breaks and strikes.

[@zeroblade6599]

More collabs please, you guys complement each others styles nicely. Also you seem to have the same kind of humour

[@SenseiSeth]

No Mike sucks, I had to bear through it... kidding haha he’s awesome, def similar senses of humor. I’ll work in more collabs!

[@fettaspalta3127]

@@SenseiSeth you definetly need to step up you improv weapons game :)

[@brandonportillo9317]

Sensei Seth im new in the channel, you really have good videos, keep doing the great job, your channel going to grow soon!

[@SenseiSeth]

Awh thanks for the love!! Appreciate it 🙏

[@angelmirchev8433]

Funny. I can't do a tornado kick but that combo with the front leg push kick into a feint into a roundhouse is my favourite move xD.

[@SenseiSeth]

Just gotta work on that linear turning!! Haha

[@angelmirchev8433]

@@SenseiSeth yeah practice makes perfect I guess.

[@ThePNWRiderWA]

Some sensei are very much opposed. To never Turing your back to your opponent. I find like most things it all depends on the situation with spinning moves be it a fist or a leg.

[@SenseiSeth]

Yea I think pressure testing has shown that you can make spinning work!! All depends on circumstance!

[@allenwalker138]

Amazing video sensei i think it will help me to learn spinning kick because it is so difficult for me im losing my balance when turning hope to have more tips and tricks about karate techniques thanks sensei ossu🙏

[@SenseiSeth]

I’ll be filming a full course on spinning kicks soon!

[@theodorewhittle8804]

Angle the leg that you pickup when turning at a 45 degree angle and will increase the speed of your turn

[@SenseiSeth]

For sure 👍

[@Ronon805]

great vid as always Mike! i really like the random clips mixed in, always has me cracking up.

[@SenseiSeth]

Yea, I’m Seth lol

[@Ronon805]

@@SenseiSeth /facepalm daaang, my bad Seth, had too many tabs open checking ur channel after seeing you at RKM. I'll show some algarythm love for the mistake.

[@SenseiSeth]

Hahaha no you’re totally fine, I can see how it would happen

[@Boysoundtechniques]

Yess Two powerful karatecas 😎

[@SenseiSeth]

The Side Project mike is the man! Picks stuff up quick

[@euanwilson-youngman6892]

Very helpful. Thank you 🙏🏼

[@SenseiSeth]

Glad you enjoyed it! If you want any more “fixers” like this, tell me what techniques for!!

[@zion6680]

Icy Mike could definitely throw that to the head, it's for some reason easier to hit with high shots doing Tornado Kicks because there's a moment where both your feet are off the ground. Now your hips can swivel a bit back or forward depending on how high you wanna aim and how confident you are you can stick the landing. You'd think it would be move that's hard on the body, but it's surprisingly the mid/high kicks that are the easiest on my hips and hamstrings lol

[@benjaminpujols1914]

Got to say you're doing that really really good I haven't done in a long time I'm lucky if I can just spin without getting dizzy LOL

[@SenseiSeth]

😂😂 thanks

[@dannyobrian5957]

Mike chalk mark lines on the floor Where you have to place your feet that may help Oh forgot it's your channel haha Your channel will rocket , the more collabs you do will help , good luck bud

[@SenseiSeth]

I can see how people would like that!!

[@popixel]

Thank you I absolutely love this video and believe that it will help with my tornado kicks.

[@nicktucker1477]

Loved the break down of this technique

[@sprk11]

LMFAO,, lots of info, but really the best part was how you boys ended that. And this is why I watch.

[@SenseiSeth]

sparky elven hahaha thanks my man!

[@tojiroh]

Oh noes you gave Icy Mike the secret tatsumaki sauce... Now his attacks have both Fire *and* Ice modifiers! 🔥❄️😱😱😱

[@SenseiSeth]

Haha he got me

[@andreydeucher3840]

That's a nice kick, im gonna try this when the dojo open this year.

[@SenseiSeth]

Let me know how it goes! 👍

[@andreydeucher3840]

@@SenseiSeth i have to train my ushiro ura mawashi too

[@PaoloRi95]

0:27 lets appreciate the humor of going from badass to sissy

[@SenseiSeth]

Hahahaha 🙏🙏

[@laurenceprice9509]

I thought the kick was called Leaf hurricane?

[@SenseiSeth]

Everybody calls stuff different names! All semantics

[@snazdogdbfan251]

@@SenseiSeth naruto reference

[@SenseiSeth]

Ahhh, I’m uncultured swine

[@danielcox7629]

Rock lee is best girl and the only one who truly exemplifies the theme of the story.

[@SuperKamiGuruu]

This is a pretty good video on this kick.

[@SenseiSeth]

Thanks a bunch bud! 🙏

[@essewaxegard9423]

Practicing capoeira made me really good at this kick

[@malkomalkavian]

And to think they didn't yet know they loved each other :)

[@laurenceprice9509]

In my village we still call it Leaf whirlwind

[@darelbvcr687]

my lateral collateral ligament hurts when i finish the rotation of the tornado kick

[@eddiemaiden2012]

Good video but is it called a 360 kick or 560 kick

[@SenseiSeth]

Do you mean 540?

[@ehisey]

Favorite thing about Mike, for all the smack talk, he actually looks at possible applications for things.

[@SenseiSeth]

No he’s super legit!!

[@patrickzajonz5346]

Great Video. Great Intro xD

[@SenseiSeth]

Ah, thank you!!

[@reynardgrimm2811]

This is a really nice break down.

[@BlackWat3rGTR]

When you get into a street fight with an average looking guy but he's all legs, just run.

[@jayjai9839]

I see you guys haven't skipped leg day😍😅

[@3eye_dablife726]

Senei seth! Do you have a dojo in the San Fernando valley???? I really really want to learn karate! If you get this message sensei Id appreciate it

[@arknark]

The "subscribe or I'll kick you" thing is stickin'

[@marcusgingell3585]

360 turning, in my neck of the woods

[@SenseiSeth]

👍👍

[@David_Raab]

Thanks, helped me a lot.

[@claytonnoble568]

Bro ive just started watching y'all and y'all say half the sounds I say. Badoom boom boom pow etc...

[@SenseiSeth]

Glad I’m not the only one 😂😂

[@WardenJefferson2015]

Much obliged Sensei.

[@strengthfrank2916]

Seth has some mean kicks

[@SenseiSeth]

Thanks!

[@foozle1up9]

Hey sensei...I'm learning back kick...however it's very 💩...and not accurate...my coach told me to start it with 2 steps(spin, pause, kick) but my accuracy is still off(so is my power) what can I do to Improve it?(also according to my coach, I lift knee too early(and too low))

[@SenseiSeth]

I’ll make a video on it 👍

[@foozle1up9]

@@SenseiSeth thanks alot

[@SenseiSeth]

Foozle 1-Up sure thing 👍

[@emmanuelhurd866]

Real quick question in the video you say side kicks don't work, for a novice like myself could you please explain why?

[@SenseiSeth]

Haha they do work! The #sidekicksdontwork thing is just a little sarcasm, because for the longest time people ACTUALLY didn’t think they worked, and now they’re so proven that they very clearly have a valid purpose that “side kicks don’t work” is just a big meme! Lol thanks for asking!!

[@emmanuelhurd866]

@@SenseiSeth thank you for answering.

[@SenseiSeth]

emmanuel hurd sure thing my friend

[@Gauntlets]

Well I guess both of y'all had some pou-u-und cake! lol

[@SenseiSeth]

Is this a meme that I don’t get? Lol

[@Gauntlets]

Sensei Seth See? U probably got it, but still! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iX3CqWSoh8xqo68

[@Todss12]

Seth reminds me so much of Tom Welling.

[@jaydensherrill5751]

Is this the first video with icy bill burr?

[@TENNSUMITSUMA]

Butterfly kicks and tornado kicks are completely different! Amma right wushu gouys??

[@SenseiSeth]

Lol a name is just a word man. Different people call them different things

[@TENNSUMITSUMA]

@@SenseiSeth ok. What do you call this kick in karate then? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJPIl5ijYsdrppo

[@SenseiSeth]

I’ve never practiced that kick. Gotta keep it mind that there’s LOTS of styles and LOTS of languages! Difficult to make everyone fit one mold. Gotta be free my man!

[@TENNSUMITSUMA]

@@SenseiSeth ah, ok

[@conradjonsson]

wtf does teep mean? I know it refers to the front kick, but what does it stand for? or is it some other language?

[@spiderstealth]

An American karate it is just called a jump spinning Crescent kick

[@SenseiSeth]

Really? Interesting! Never heard it called that

[@AlphaGunGirls]

@@SenseiSeth jump spinning crescent, side, Roundhouse kick. Just depends on what the hips do. But yes in my dojo curriculum the Gucci kicks have simple names.

[@3eye_dablife726]

Is there any dojo’s out in the valley or LA county that has dojo’s for adults?

[@3eye_dablife726]

I’d really love to find a dojo ! Palmdale CA doesn’t have any for adults unless it’s bjj.

[@mpg3946]

I thought Mike was a TaeKwonDo black belt as a child. He should be able to do a decent tornado kick.

[@SenseiSeth]

Nope, he did Kuk sool won

[@HittokiriBatosai]

Does Sensei Seth really sign off on #sidekicksdontwork?

[@SenseiSeth]

Haha side kicks don’t work, if you suck at side kicks

[@ivanbreytenbach123]

Geez those kicks sound like they hurt

[@darrylvidal3399]

are you talking about my kick there at 1:06?

[@darrylvidal3399]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGbCf6dshpx7ras

[@lukasbroderus8582]

I love side kick

[@SenseiSeth]

its a great attack!

[@theboltthrower8661]

Israel Adesanya and MVP taught me the "tornado kick" Adesanya´s is way more elegant, tho.

[@SenseiSeth]

They’re both super athletic 👍👏

[@RagnarOdinson]

Sweet 👍

[@raydon14ify]

reminds me of rogen and gsp

[@SenseiSeth]

Hahaha wait who does that make me and which one is Mike?

[@jaso4321]

I don't understand the "side kicks don't work" thing. I'm pretty sure Bill Wallace might disagree , maybe Bruce Lee if he was still around . I get that it is probably one of the more basic kicks that needs lots of work to get powerful/snappy and really needs great timing to be super effective but doesn't work is a bit extreme . Actually have you seen Michael J White's side kicks , I wouldn't like to receive a good one of those anytime soon . They look like broken ribs/crushed internal organs that leads to the swift end of a fight to me .

[@SenseiSeth]

It’s a meme

[@jaso4321]

@@SenseiSeth ah no way , my bad .

[@SenseiSeth]

Lol no worries!

[@syakirharith3]

How are all spinning attacks linear?

[@SenseiSeth]

Most should be momentum going towards your target

[@martinlescano2791]

Look at those legs... Omg

[@SenseiSeth]

😂

[@damien5613]

0:37" your killing me" please its "your ending my life"

[@SenseiSeth]

I’ll write that down lol

[@damien5613]

Thank you

[@pleaseenteraname195]

Wait, if you call a tornado kick a butterfly kick then what do you call an actual butterfly kick.

[@Froge4291]

Tornado kick

[@nicholasnj3778]

Zabit Magomesharipov is the one guy who really know how to use these type Kicks OSS

[@SenseiSeth]

I disagree

[@nicholasnj3778]

@@SenseiSeth I'll have to rewatchsome video of him when I have time

[@jillurmalik1]

Your intro nice

[@lastninjaitachi]

Sidekicks dont work tell that to stephen thompson haha

[@SenseiSeth]

Haha it’s a running joke in the community, they def work

[@franciscodanconia3551]

I don't get what was wrong with, "Subscribe!.. or I'll kick you."

[@jfearless3420]

I think its safe to say most people call that a tornado kick lol.

[@artjacobbermejo5780]

540 hook kick pls

[@SenseiSeth]

I have a vid of me attempting one, I’m not the best at it. Search “Sensei Seth 540” it’s my first video ever

[@unfleshedII]

7:08

[@DW01]

Does he really not know how to do the kick?

[@SenseiSeth]

He had a good understanding but wanted fine tuning

[@dylankramer9249]

Comment

[@davisbarr9112]

This guy is an intentional troll. Side kicks don't work? He's fun to watch but he's a troll. (((((I like him but sometimes I'll say what i really think. Side kicks are the best most necessary kick. Without a side kick this won't even have meaning. Ah we are being so trolled merciless. Gosh the troll.)))))

[@SenseiSeth]

Lol that’s a meme