Flaming 37 Mega Thrash

[@Tibb91]

Class 37s are probably the most brutal sounding diesel locos I've ever heard.

[@cedarcam]

I think so too. The class 40 and 50 make a great sound as well when working hard

[@themeatchannel1134]

They are gorgeous sounding, especially when the tits are being razzed off them, like here !!!

[@Neontrifle]

@@themeatchannel1134 They have a great whistling sound of the turbos

[@dieselfahrenderpflaumenkuc352]

cedarcam the class 20 and 31 also

[@benconway9010]

@@cedarcam and the 31s

[@arthurmatthews9321]

It’s burning more fuel in the exhaust than in the engine. It’s a 37 with an after burner.

[@cedarcam]

I like that description. Sure was burning a lot too. Never seen anything like it before.

[@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife]

@@cedarcam probably a leaky turbo seal modification for afterburning diesel power. Old GE dash 8s and dash 9s (and even the new GEVOs) are infamous here stateside for having this issue of running fuel rich due to turbo failure. We call them "toasters" here. If you look up GE toaster engine failure you will see some incredible engine failures / fires or "clag" (so as to parlance in british english). Here we like to refer to it as rolling coal 🤣

[@cedarcam]

@@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife Thanks for your reply. In this case it is the way the driver is handling the power by leaving it on full all the time. These locos have 2 turbos, sometimes I have seen one with one side emitting thick smoke all the time while the other is clean. I have seen a few failures stateside but not looked up toaster engine failure so I will do that to find some more. Rolling coal I have heard of and I think a better description than clag as we say. There are no pre heaters on these old engines and when starting from cold they create a dense white fog. Here is another EE loco starting from cold These have 4 turbos and a bigger version of the same engine as the 37 kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5Wkmol_qJWJkM0

[@derekheeps1244]

Spamcan and the jet engine

[@Sharrendan]

The valves just can't close because there is too much powerrrr. 🔥😁

[@Asl6uk]

Love the sound of those turbos spooling down after he backs off.

[@cedarcam]

Yes I like the sound of that as well on these locos

[@leonblittle226]

He never backed off - it's overloading and cutting out the power unit before the generator was blown.

[@bigduphusaj162]

@@leonblittle226 it's the anti slip mate

[@beeble2003]

@@bigduphusaj162 There's no anti-slip on a 37, is there?

[@nounoufriend1442]

@@leonblittle226 Would think its wheel slip cutting the power rather than overload , don't remember any main gen overload protection on Cl37

[@AltheFolker]

Anyone else hear James May's voice: 'Give it some beans!'

[@junatah5903]

Nope, just you.

[@OntarioAndrew]

Give it the berries

[@markcf83]

I can only imagine St Jeremy of Clarkson saying POWERRRRRRRRR......

[@Brecconable]

@@markcf83 Indeed. Speed and *POWER*

[@nerfreak01]

Clarkson: Yeeees!

[@davidantoniocamposbarros7528]

When the fart doesn't come out as you expected:

[@imbatman2868]

I bet you have a lot of brown undies.... Billy the skid

[@GhostOfDamned]

@@imbatman2868 wtf lol

[@davidantoniocamposbarros7528]

@@imbatman2868 wut

[@imbatman2868]

@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 Are you half of a backward owl Tuw wit Tuw wue...

[@davidantoniocamposbarros7528]

@@imbatman2868 pretty sure it's safe to say you're on crack lmao

[@Tiswhattitis]

Bloody hell!! This sounds exactly like my mrs snoring!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@cedarcam]

LOL Hope she does not chuck out black smoke as well

[@tomf4547]

Haaaa I can relate to that 🤣

[@bigal1863]

Gotta be the long lost twin to my mrs!

[@steffenrosmus9177]

Does your mrs have a yellow nose?

[@redrb26dett]

Your missus seems to have the same problem as my dog fyi I’ve slept through an earthquake but my god once he starts snoring the whole street wakes up

[@TerryTheNewsGirl]

God, I've seen some clag coming out of a lot of 37's in my life, but this insane!

[@cedarcam]

That's the most I have seen too

[@professorjamesmoriarty5191]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3XNqXupqLx6jJY

[@zedcharlie]

I know what's wrong? fireman put too much coal on 😀

[@zedcharlie]

@kyle Wicks it was a joke 😀

[@antoniocarlosruizfernandes9575]

@@cedarcam Powerful, but one of the ugliest locos I saw.

[@G0IMB]

Looks like how a steam driver would control wheelslip

[@EngineEngineer]

Steam driver wouldn't be opening the regulator fully though would he

[@lordbelvoir2543]

And the fireman would get a kick up arse for over coaling with all that black smoke

[@H.EL-Othemany]

Isn't it automatic? Anti wheel slip device?

[@SirMagicaltrevor]

@@H.EL-Othemany if you open the throttle to full it goes full. When there is wheelslip the electronic shuts the rack in the engine untill the wheelslip stops then it just goes back the what ever the throttle handle position was so if you leave it on full this is basically what is show in the video I think it's on class 37/7 locos

[@H.EL-Othemany]

@@SirMagicaltrevor yes that's exactly what happens in train simulator.. Class 37

[@glennashton1015]

Love that savage growl ,class 37 perhaps my favourite locomotive

[@cedarcam]

They have a great sound yes

[@NGK911]

@@glennashton1015 mine also

[@444mrjimmy]

He’s having so much fun playing the throttle and that glorious exhaust note

[@cedarcam]

The sound is great

[@Straightcutbox]

This particular 37 clearly had issues. It's trying to move 10 x JGA wagons (900 tons) at a time to shunt them from long sidings to up sidings at Peak forest. That's well within the capabilities of a single 37, despite the gradient and a clearly damp day. Great video!

[@cedarcam]

It was a tough job for a single loco yes. I was told they used 2 often but this day the 2nd loco only arrived when both halves of the train were in the Up Siding.They did haul loads like this often though and it looks like poor driving technique apply full power and not easing off a little as it got on the move causing to engine overspeed to cut the fuel and as the revs die down allow a surge of fuel into the engine. Whatever the cause it did make a great video and something I have never seen sine.

[@christopherhampson265]

The Driver is just blowing out the soot boxes ! A Good job n'all

[@-FreeMiner-]

Clearing the engines and the track was icy

[@beeble2003]

@@-FreeMiner- What makes you say the track was icy? There are leaves on all the trees and bushes -- it doesn't look like winter.

[@-FreeMiner-]

@beeble2003 not hard to annalise a video and see ice on rails

[@quadra21]

as a French for me we have the best loco, but gotta admit, Class 37 is purely heaven.

[@cedarcam]

Our 37 is now a celebrity loco LOL They have done well to last so many years while newer ones have been dragged to the scrap yard by them. Nothing else we have now is quite like them

[@quadra21]

37 remind me BB67000, here still the 60s, and still do great job! nothing can replace them!

[@cedarcam]

@@quadra21 When I went to Paris on Eurostar I saw some of those loco's and in Belgium they still run their series 62's Seems the old ones are still the best for some jobs

[@markosmith8037]

great video - I learnt a lot about diesel-electric locomotives after reading up about how these function. Even though the technique here doesn't look textbook (for whatever reason), it certainly seems to be doing the job and the build quality speaks for itself.

[@cedarcam]

Thank you Marko. I was told they usually used 2 x locos to haul the train out on the very steep gradient, on this day the 2nd loco did not arrive until the whole train was put together, I wonder if the driver was taking it out on the loco maybe hoping it would fail. Whatever the reason he sure put on a good show and I never saw anything like it again.

[@TheNutyking6170]

The smoke cloud at 0:53 is a love heart shape, I love the noise of the 37s

[@cedarcam]

Yea A great sight and sound I love as well Not many left in service now

[@TheNutyking6170]

@@cedarcam Its really sad how there aren't many left, I saw one not to long ago in par cornwall, its engine sounded really nice too :)

[@cedarcam]

@@TheNutyking6170 Thats nice. I got video of 401 at York recently and will upload that. They can be seen at York fairly often

[@justinobrien3593]

Love the clagg pumping out of this beast you cannot mistake the sound of those English electric engines+turbos kicking arse!!!🥰😘🥰

[@cedarcam]

Not the best way to treat a 37 but sure got a great sound out of it

[@JonDingle]

That looked and sounded truly fantastic!

[@cedarcam]

It sure did Never seen another 37 worked like this one was. I bet they could hear it miles away

[@ozziemcbozzy3156]

That is absolutely insane,love it.full on tractor clag

[@cedarcam]

It sure is. Never seen another like it

[@dennisyoung4631]

*Soot! Bloomin’ Soot! It makes the railfans get up and Hoot!* (Apologies to Kipling)

[@scopex2749]

BUGGER ME MEGA CLAGG! Bloody awesome superb! Thanks for sharing, cool driver. Wheel slipping like a good’un as he blips the reg!

[@cedarcam]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching

[@beyergarret123]

There's nothing good about wheel slipping, it might look fun to the Anoraks but it does the rails no good at all, I worked on the P Way on the Midland main line back in the seventies and it wasn't unusual to have to change sections of rail at the ends of platforms because they became rippled due to poor starting procedure..I can't imagine the wheels themselves fared much better.

[@cedarcam]

I have seen that kind of damage as well. A huge expense for the railway caused by a few moments of inattentive driving. I have also seen the result of damage to a wheel which made a ripple similar to seen on the rails. This I was told needs to be re profiled otherwise in service the wheel damage quickly gets worse as the wheel bounces on the damaged part and can lead to cracks developing in the tyre.

[@ryanmorrison3699]

I love this comment! It’s the most British thing I’ve ever read!

[@scopex2749]

Must add to this - I worked as a train engineer for SWT and then London Underground for years and Ive see the rippled tracks - I didnt mean it was 'good' to spin the wheels just commenting that he was doing it :) We spent over 2 years developing anti slip/ anti skid for the new generation of trains and locos. My respects to PWay I used to see them going past the Wimbledon depot at 2am with the track replacement trains on the main lines into London - HARD WORK!!

[@althejazzman]

That's a terrifying display of power.

[@cedarcam]

You would feel the ground shake with this one. So loud

[@Craft-oh7uv]

You haven’t meet my mother-in-law 🫨

[@althejazzman]

@@Craft-oh7uv is she built like a train?

[@Craft-oh7uv]

Ask a stupid question! @@althejazzman

[@jondrizzle4554]

Never really been into trains until now That's bloody awesome 👌

[@cedarcam]

It is I never saw anything like it in years. There are some great uploads of locos in other countries you will like as well

[@jondrizzle4554]

Thanks buddy Seriously this video has started me off looking at all sorts of class locos....and I can't stop watching now :) this is an absolute beast of a machine thanks for the upload 👍

[@philld1201]

@@jondrizzle4554 and this video shows you how to start up one of these English Electric locos, although these one is a class 40, a bigger machine than the one on these videos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2KYinqLaZJorJY

[@peterowbottom1110]

37141, had it like that on the Marches, utter beast of a loco, this video is fantastic

[@cedarcam]

Thanks. It is a favourite of mine too

[@MrJimbaloid]

Oh and how would you know.

[@peterowbottom1110]

How would I know what? read the comment,. which part are you struggling with in particular to comprehend?

[@MrJimbaloid]

Errrrrrrrr sorry pete I don't think I aimed that at you. Again sorry old bean I might have made an awful mistake.

[@MrJimbaloid]

It was meant for hector not you very sorry.

[@cyco781loco1]

That sound reminds me of growing up in the 80s living near a blue circle cement plant when the 37s used to roar

[@chloedevereaux1801]

was that in beeston nottingham?

[@cyco781loco1]

@@chloedevereaux1801 no In Handsworth in Birmingham

[@richardday487]

So did I near the Northfleet plant. Ran right next to where I lived

[@ebktoonz8436]

​@@richardday487sound of them 37 bring back some fond memories ey

[@shinvelcro]

That looks like how I play train sim trying to keep under the speed limit on a gradient. Nice vid!

[@cedarcam]

Thanks. I hope you do not let the wheels slip and damage the rails like this driver

[@nounoufriend]

@@cedarcam At least you can see wheel slip protection working , we once had one go out with wheel slip board missing it wore chunk out rail

[@cedarcam]

@@nounoufriend I have seen where that has happened and caused severe damage to the rails and I guess the loco wheels. Not long ago I was shown a photo where a class 66 had worn the rails down to the ballast 3 axles at one end of the loco just melted the rail away.

[@nounoufriend]

@@cedarcam 66's will slowly slip all wheels slowly if you keep power on ,. had one that wouldn't shift loaded coal train out flooded yard . The 37 incident was few years ago it would not grind out had to put new rail in . Can't beat class 60 for wheel slip control worst you feel is little jump then load share kicks in seamlessly . It has individual control of wheels unlike 66's super series . Driving them back on after derailment Cl 60 is loads better off road than 66 ( we use to drive them up wood packing to get back on rail )

[@cedarcam]

@@nounoufriend Thanks. I knew about the 66 from a film I saw many years ago There must of been some kind of fault on this one Sadly I have no details of where it happened it was just a photo sent into the office by email. The 60 does seem to be a great load hauler I saw one pull away from a red on iron ore which used to use 3 x 37. I was amazed how easy it made it look but on MGR trains where I was they always said a 56 was faster away. I had wondered why some trains were held back a block behind and not at the junction signal which was on a steep gradient. The signaller said if a 56 they held it at the junction A 60 a block back so it got enough speed up not to delay a passenger running off the branch behind it.

[@Able00999]

Thank you for the written explanation of why the black smoke is produced.

[@cedarcam]

Thank you I recently added that in the description after another poster suggested it when I replied to him Glad you found it useful

[@FreightLocos]

That was awesome! wish we still have loads of 37's around these days, so much character, so much noise

[@cedarcam]

Yes I miss the days of these and my favourite class 40's blasting up grade on a heavy freight. Had a 37 audible at least 3 miles away once on a night when it had to take an engineers train to be re marshalled and the gradient was steep like on here. The driver sure worked it hard. Would of loved a recording of that.

[@ladytinkaharris6637]

@@cedarcam sorry cedarcam I beg to differ because I grew up as a kid around the sound of the class 37 I must admit the class 37 is my favourite to me the class 40s look like chi hua hua with bulging eyes the class 40s have never been appealing to me

[@cedarcam]

@@ladytinkaharris6637 OK I feel the same about the Deltics for some reason their look never appealed to me.

[@SirReginaldBlomfield1234]

Deltics look like Oprah 😟

[@giglefreakz]

so much pollution

[@FunBotTheRobot]

1:20 D199:Oh my cargo is so heavy Work diesel:Hurry up

[@cedarcam]

LOL

[@ob1983]

Wow, amazing footage - fantastic clip :)

[@cedarcam]

Thank you. That's quite a sight yea

[@SansPareil]

entertaining for sure but on paper not the best way to drive. Maybe the driver was playing more to the crowd and his own enjoyment than to actually move the train :)

[@Liberator975]

Sans Pareil yet according to pur government. This Manor is better for the environment than holding steady rpm. As black smoke is unburnt fuel. Less nox. Oir government are trying to make us all buy petrol cars before they make us buy electric. Try telling me that when im smoking along in a diesel 4x4

[@g8ymw]

Unburned fuel is not black, it's white. That is very rich running, it will clear if (a) the engine catches up with the fuel being put in or (b) the driver/ traction control backs off. Maybe the loco needs a service? Notice the "good ole boys" in the US like doing this with their pick-ups, call it "Rolling Coal"

[@Liberator975]

g8ymw unburnt fuel white. This is because mechanical diesel can't govern fuel based on rpm. The engine is under load and throttles thrown open.

[@Liberator975]

The Grumpy Southerner not at all. I've worked on diesel engines for 15+ years if a Turbo weaped that much oil. The engine would run away. Black smoke is rich air/fuel ratio. If you pay attention, it clears after the initial blast, before the throttles are closed. As a friend of mine calls it. Black smoke is a byproduct of power

[@Liberator975]

The Grumpy Southerner I'm talking marine diesels. Very similar to loco diesels. Its the government and dosing to the rail. As apposed to electronically fired diesel that can adjust dosing to rpm to compression

[@That_Uk_Spotter]

37s are easily the best sounding trains in the country like nothing beats them

[@cedarcam]

Out of what's left of our old locos they are. I always liked a 40 on full power and the 50's had a great sound too

[@tincansailor2614]

The turbo lag..... it's amazing..... love it!

[@cedarcam]

Yes Awesome isn't it.

[@davehowe4714]

Holy hell on wheels that was awesome, I love the sound of power being used under control 👍🏼

[@cedarcam]

Wasn't it ! I never saw a 37 worked like that before or since

[@alanbanks9474]

Absolutely cracking that. More than a chuckle escaping my mouth watching this circus.

[@cedarcam]

Thank you Glad you enjoyed watching

[@DEVONLAD11]

All i can hear is greta thunberg saying YOU HAVE STOLLEN MY DREAMS.

[@gnypp45]

😂😂

[@vincentlau104]

How dare you?!?!

[@crusaderiii477]

The class 37 does not know what she is talking about

[@davelowe1977]

@@crusaderiii477 Neither does she.

[@crusaderiii477]

*"HOW DARE YOU"*

[@donpoIlo2982]

What... This is brilliant just listen to that magnificent engine and all that power, could listen all day to this

[@donpoIlo2982]

Beats the boring new electric trains ( especially the class 80x )

[@ctiley2212]

It probably had a turbocharger problem and wasn't getting enough air for the fuel load.

[@cedarcam]

It is running fine When the engines fuel is readmitted the turbos are not going fast enough to burn it

[@paulcollyer801]

Hear how the revs go up but not the speed, all diesels will coke under heavy load, the nature of the fuel. Tis but a show methinks, wheelspins & plumes

[@cedarcam]

@@paulcollyer801 Yes either putting on a show for the 2 who look to be taking photos by the building or he is having a bad day taking it out on the loco. Either way bad way to treat a loco

[@TrainTrackTrav]

Just epic! Great thrash, and tons of "plant food" coming out the top!

[@cedarcam]

LOL More like weed killer

[@andypreston1524]

TrainTrackTrav It's gorgeous, I love the sound of the turbos spooling down after each booting!!!

[@cedarcam]

Yea I always like the sound of that too.

[@cedarcam]

Yea I like all EE locos. Great sounding engines and have outlasted many newer locos. Sadly looking like the last of the 20's will be going soon but a lot of 08's still about

[@Moodster020]

The 20s (HNRC ones) will be around for a good few years yet.

[@Tinbopaloobop]

What a sound!! Can someone please explain why It’s revving like that and not just set at constant low revs?

[@cedarcam]

It's the way it is being driven. The driver has the controller on full power causing the engine systems to cut the fuel to prevent overspeed damaging the engine, as the revs go down fuel surges into the slow running engine causing the black smoke and some unburnt fuel to ignite in the exhausts because the turbos are not up to speed. Not the best way to get a heavy load on the move. It did make a great sound though

[@markrhuett]

Do they still use the Class 37 in regular freight service? I'm from California and I'd love to travel just to see these awesome machines.

[@cedarcam]

There are not many left in service now but you can see them working on freight and some passenger trains Also there are several preserved examples so you could get haulage on one of those and even possibly get to drive one, as some of our private lines have driver experience days where for a fee you get to drive either steam or diesel on an empty passenger train. We have a web site called realtime trains. It is free to look up there almost any train in the country and the company operating it. There you can sometimes find what type of loco is on the train. You could have a look on there and find out which places you are likely to see one. A place many tourists like to see is York and the company DRS have a track right by the station where they often park one up. Another line people like to ride is Settle to Carlisle and DRS have a depot at Carlisle so they pass the station on there way there. They also work the passenger trains from there along the scenic coast line though Whitehaven so you can check out train times along that line.

[@cmdrquillon9398]

They still use them occasionally - companies like Colas Rail still have them in their fleet, but most of the functional engines are in heritage or museum use.

[@jamesbradford4550]

Direct rail services still use many of them on the main line, and loads of them on heritage railways

[@justinobrien3593]

Its seriously insane pure dirty black diesel thrash! Its got to be the best thrash video I've ever seen on KZbin lol 😆

[@cedarcam]

Thank you It is certainly the only time I have seen flames being thrown out like that Sometimes a shower of sparks and glow in the exhausts and the amount of smoke !

[@ianjones4116]

Proper Driver !!! One in the Nose for Gretta !!!!😂😍

[@cedarcam]

Probably bored stiff now driving a 66 with no thrash or retired happy that he drove these when we had proper trains

[@davidappleton5813]

Nice write-up & explanation Cedarcam, cheers!

[@cedarcam]

Thanks David I added a little more info after a fitter who worked on these posted a comment. He had seen a driver doing the same thing . I saw a lot of these locos worked very hard but never anything like this since.

[@davidappleton5813]

@@cedarcam I grew up listening to this sound, like a grumpy & angered dragon clawing its way up the Cynon & Merthyr valleys from Ponty(pridd!) - a true sound of my home & my childhood, evokes so many memories, thanks again :-)

[@cedarcam]

@@davidappleton5813 Fantastic. I was able to hear them growling up the Calder Valley line in Yorkshire Sometimes you could her them form over a mile away. One night a crane was sent out on a track relaying job and the train was marshalled in the wrong order. The only box that could get things sorted was miles away and the driver set off with all speed up the steep gradient out of Bradford About a mile away is an almost one mile long tunnel and when it got through there we could clearly hear it for a few minutes going on full power. What a sound that was in the dead of night.

[@g8ymw]

In the words of Mathew Corbett (Or his dad, Harry) "HELLO SOOTY" lol

[@cedarcam]

LOL Maybe he was trying to get the genie to come out

[@trainfan452]

Clag clag clag this is the best ive seen of a thrash and a clag at the same time

[@cedarcam]

I saw a lot of 37's worked hard but never anything like this again.

[@superbracey]

Is it the driver or the loco cutting the revs and then reapplying? Because I never understood why they often do this. Wouldn't steady revs provide a more constant flow pf electricity to the traction motors?

[@cedarcam]

This driver is applying full power and letting the wheel slip detection cut the power. Not the best way to get the load moving. Normally they apply a lot of power to get the train moving then ease off because they reach maximum amps then apply power again more gently keeping an eye on the ammeter and wheel slip indicator putting sand down as required and adjusting the power to as much as they can without loosing traction. That takes a lot more skill than just blasting away on full power like here.

[@superbracey]

cedarcam If I had scrolled down I would have seen that others have also asked the same question. My bad. But locos often sound like they're revving then backing off. Now I know why. Cheers.

[@cedarcam]

No problem Superbracy I was going to say to look there but did not want to sound rude. Anyway Yes that is why you often see a driver back off. Another thing I have noticed is even up hill a wagon will roll a little under momentum when the driver backs off and that will slacken the couplers. As power is re applied there is less load on the loco and it will gain a bit more speed without slipping. This also takes skill. Not to snatch and break a link taking up the slack too quickly.

[@steveelliott241]

of course , hes just jamming the throttle full open , and shutting it off again , to drown the engine in diesel , and cause it to blow huge black clouds of smoke skywards to make people go " wow ! "

[@cedarcam]

I doubt he thought 30 years later over 50,000 would of watched him do it

[@irelandbloke]

Awesome sound ! 👍

[@cedarcam]

Sure is

[@cedarcam]

No it is not a cold engine making so much smoke, in this case it is one being worked very hard. These locos were designed to pull heavy freight and express passenger trains so an all rounder and quite at home on either. Some are still in use today.

[@GRRR1148]

The 0623 to London Paddington was cancelled yesterday and there was a pair of Class 37s sitting at platform 1 of Cardiff Central instead, idling with a few rail scanning/surveying carriages. I didn’t mind the 30 mins extra wait listening to them idle, the platforms shaking and filling with diesel smoke under the platform canopies. Awesome.

[@cedarcam]

I would of liked to hear that too. I have an audio recording of one in Carlisle made on a Micro-speak digital recorder by Talking Products. A great little gadget for things like that.

[@bertthime4503]

Lovely sound 👌

[@cedarcam]

I bet you could hear this a few miles away

[@glenhoff1443]

Brought a smile to my face!!

[@cedarcam]

Never tire of watching this myself

[@glenhoff1443]

Just brilliant to watch, just brilliant. Well done you.

[@cedarcam]

@@glenhoff1443 Thank you. The real credit to a friend who actually filmed it and I copied it from his tape. He used to go here often and this day we got lucky to see this incredible sight

[@glenhoff1443]

@cedarcam How lucky. This is what you call quality archive material. Happy days sadly now long gone. Growing up as a youngster I loved all the diesel locos especially the class 50s that came to Brum! Now that's a thrash machine.

[@cedarcam]

@@glenhoff1443 Yes the railway is very dull now Back then there was plenty of action and variety. Today 21 06 2024 I had some class 50 haulage on KWVR No full thrash or speed but still enjoyed reminiscing. I saw them at Crewe first when they were taking over from electric locomotives some trains double headed Fantastic sound.

[@rog37685]

Ok this is my 54th time viewing its just awsome

[@cedarcam]

LOL It is addictive yes. I keep watching it myself. It was hidden away on a tape I had not looked at for years.

[@rog37685]

cedarcam yes here I am watching it again lol

[@cedarcam]

:)

[@rog37685]

cedarcam guess what 100th time viewing and it still surprises me I think I'm gonna watch this for ever can not stop lol :,)

[@cedarcam]

LOL I cannot believe how many watch each day Must be a lot like you can't keep away. I do keep looking myself too

[@damioncartwright3891]

Awesome clip is this. I just wish it was 4k and I bet that driver was loving it!

[@cedarcam]

So do I, It was not actually me who filmed it so it was copied from my friends tape and then years later to PC which was not as good as the software I have today. My more recent Archive from my own master tapes is a lot clearer and I really wish I had that 1st generation tape. Also he stopped recording before the train passed under the bridge and many in the past have asked which 37 it was. I am sure the driver was loving it yes What a sound it made, I bet you could hear it miles away.

[@johnbrown9092]

We agree.Awesome locomotives.

[@will_levitt926]

37’s always will be awesome locomotives

[@delticnapierdccsound4236]

This is a dream . MEINE LORDZ 🔥

[@cedarcam]

Incredible isn't it. I never saw anything like it since

[@johnpauljones6229]

What a great sound!!! 🎶

[@cedarcam]

Sure is I bet it could be heard a few miles away

[@viliusr.8792]

I am sure driver is salivating and enjoying the action.. what a dreamjob.

[@cedarcam]

I wonder if he was putting on a show for the guys by the building who look to have a camera

[@viliusr.8792]

@@cedarcam absolutely, with such a beast in hands you can make a day for just about anybody, put a smile on womans faces, chicks really dig the trains and drivers.

[@thestaffordshiretrainspott5799]

Absolute hellfire

[@davehodges6258]

Top driver that knows what he is doing there, 👍

[@cedarcam]

LOL I bet his instructor did not teach him this technique

[@davehodges6258]

@@cedarcam No i guess not"! but it looks like having many years on the rails one gets to know them and there engines power and what there are moving behind them,!😎

[@cedarcam]

@@davehodges6258 They do yes A memory that stays in my mind when we got a lift on a long coal train was how the driver knew he could start away on full power and not slip the wheels, we slowly built up speed and a while before where we wanted dropping off went down to idle and hardly using the brake stopped just where we wanted

[@misterree1443]

You lot are fricking hilarious!!

[@NaoPb]

Thanks for the description, I find it interesting to know what causes this much smoke.

[@cedarcam]

Thank you for taking the time to read it and not jump in with comments as if all our locomotives behave like this. The very reason I put it on is because it is unusual

[@mikan004]

Thug life class 37 smokong weed

[@grahamallen4249]

Is it wrong to watch 10 times..!

[@cedarcam]

LOL Awesome isn't it. I have seen them working hard but never thrashed like this Note the open windows on the building Bet they were chocking in there.

[@rog37685]

Graham Allen I've watched it 54times

[@PaulJohnson-hw6vs]

LOL

[@bradleyclarke6800]

No

[@thebeast2746]

Graham Allen you sad sad twat get a life

[@andyhinds542]

By a class 37's standards, that is mental!

[@cedarcam]

Sure was. Never seen anything like it since

[@EastSussexTrainSpotter]

Just clearing something out! 😊😂😂😂😂😂

[@cedarcam]

That's what its all about Loco would run nicely after that LOL

[@justinobrien3593]

Best class 37 clagg thrash video ive ever seen these locomotives are ruthless beasts 😍🥰🤩🔥🔥🔥

[@cedarcam]

Thank you Justin. I never saw anything like it sine pure brute force

[@richardturnbull6333]

Best thrash and clag I've ever seen.... thanks for posting

[@cedarcam]

Thanks I have never seen anything like it since

[@jedkendray9814]

What more do i say but- HELLFIRE!!!!

[@cedarcam]

Yes it really was fire from her heart. Awesome

[@justinobrien3593]

Seriously black clagg coming out of that beast 🤩😍🥰

[@andypreston1524]

Love it. Love it....and love it!!!!!

[@cedarcam]

Me too :)

[@danielsmith-wr3mk]

What a weapon. Fantastic machine

[@cedarcam]

Yea Highly aggressive sound. Not many left in service now. A few run on heritage lines though

[@harrymcandrew1447]

1:17 bet the driver of that train was wondering what the hell the 37 was doing

[@cedarcam]

I think he may of been expecting a big bang LOL

[@mrmarcrumbleton8300]

🥴🥴

[@SMX815]

This gives me goosebumps as that rumble is just raw power & they are king of the railways 👏🇬🇧

[@cedarcam]

They sure rumble when they lay on the power. See a station carpark full of wailing cars after one of these passes on full power, magic.

[@SMX815]

@@cedarcam yes they are amazing & the engine are on a whole another level 👍

[@xxx_faze_gavinairways_xxx1547]

when mom keeps on calling you

[@ttvvideos2050]

gavin

[@andypreston1524]

Oh Cedarcam...... Myself and and my brother (who is a train driver of over 25 years experience, but a general train buff of over double that) are now addicted to this video. Do you, by any chance, know the number of this 37....? Or can anyone else please identify which Tractor this was, putting on such a magnificent show....????

[@cedarcam]

Thank you You are not the only one who has said that. Sadly no record was made of the loco number. I have a comment somewhere in the 641 that suggested which loco it may of been from the headcode panel which not so many locos had in that style that worked in this area. I wish I knew myself. The signalman who filmed it had more but it was very poor and I just copied this part of the tape unedited so why he turned the camera off just when he did I do not know. He went here a few times and said he filmed a 37 with 1 foot high flames. I thought he was kidding and said sparks No Flames he said and sure enough he was not kidding. I have seen many of these locos working hard but never anything like this in many years of working trackside in S&T.

[@andypreston1524]

Cheers for that. I'll have a scroll through 'em a bit later !!! 👍👍👍

[@yoshimuracosplay7020]

Stay cool, Stay Coal !

[@djtrainspotter]

Yeah nice delicate throttling the Growler with gentle feathering! Plenny work to do there for driver and loco around Peak Forest, now got this on loop, excellent

[@cedarcam]

I am sure if I were at work this would of been on a loop on my PC. Stopped the darn thing going to sleep. I used to have short cab ride I liked there.

[@LIMowersAndMore]

Interesting these reminds me of the ALCOS here in the US of A

[@JordysRailVideos]

And the odd Australian

[@Radio478]

Absolutely fantastic thanks 😊

[@cedarcam]

Thanks Glad you enjoyed watching this hard working loco

[@306cuber]

27 speed gearbox. ;)

[@cedarcam]

LOL Sounds like it

[@TheCymbalProject]

That engine looks like thoroughbred racer being asked to do a draught horse's duty.

[@cedarcam]

LOL I like that

[@draxlerchronicles5851]

That's me after an Indian.

[@dennisyoung4631]

Soot! How do we get some o’ these over here?

[@captainbimble]

Now that's what I call a clag spewing growler!

[@cedarcam]

Incredible isn't it

[@7822welshsteam]

BEAST!

[@cedarcam]

:) Not half

[@unguidedone]

since the drive system is diesel electric, a diesel engine driving an alternator and that drives traction motors wont the input energy be constant if all it needs to do is supply a minimum voltage to drive the motors? its seen here revving up and rpms keep going up and down. i just thought that was odd.

[@cedarcam]

They are diesel electric yes The engine drives a DC generator on these old locos and applying more power to the engine varies the power to the motors. Normally a lot of power is used at first but the driver has to watch the amps and ease back a bit so not to cook the motors then as speed increases more power can be applied to the engine without too many amps being drawn by the motors. This driver is leaving the power on full causing systems that prevent damage to the engine by over revving and too much power going to the motors causing them to overheat to cut fuel to the engine then as the revs die down the fuel surges in again. Not the right way to get a heavy load moving

[@Isochest]

I take it the driver was dealing with wheelslip

[@cedarcam]

Yes it appears so by the way the engine cuts out and in. The load is heavy on a 1 in 90 (1.1 %) grade

[@GaryNumeroUno]

Not very efficiently though. Far too much power too quickly then cutting it too far too quickly.

[@bonkeydollocks1879]

@@GaryNumeroUno the loco cuts it off automatically, it has a fancy name I can't remember. The driver has just opined the throttle wide and let the anti slip thing control it, the driver is not putting the power on and off.

[@GaryNumeroUno]

@@bonkeydollocks1879 cheers good buddy. It is the wheelslip protection circuit. I appreciate where you are coming from but it is not meant to be operated that way. The driver still has way too much power on and should have throttled back accordingly to control it better. Just lazy driving... we have guys like that on our locos in Western Australia but generally most treat the job as it should be... a skilled trade. Stay safe.

[@bonkeydollocks1879]

@@GaryNumeroUno oh yea definitely, could have been more gentle with it, more productive with it

[@WhyAyeMann]

The definative thrash and clag video.

[@cedarcam]

Thank you WhyAyeMann. I have never seen anything like it since.

[@markmather1336]

Wonder what his carbon footprint is.

[@cedarcam]

Outsize LOL

[@themeatchannel1134]

DILLIGAF! This is just pure THRASH !!!👍👍👍👍

[@cantthinkofaname3344]

Big, probably

[@train4905]

Still hellfire,awsome😊

[@cedarcam]

Yea Never get tired of watching this myself

[@BarnacleBill77]

Now that's clag!

[@Fadhiil5112]

that's one brutal growling from a locomotive

[@cedarcam]

Sure is

[@pxsrrail2558]

Can we get an F for the 120 polar bears killed

[@Bahamas-rd8le]

F

[@matthouseholder6928]

F

[@crax7329]

F

[@thestarlightalchemist7333]

Can we get more F's for the chunk of the ozone layer that also died?

[@stuartk.9104]

No

[@motoxmadman16]

Wow see the flames in the exhaust that's hell fire to the max fair play to the driver

[@cedarcam]

I have seen a few 37 worked very hard but never anything like this again.

[@stephensmith799]

They repaid their costs for sure. I was a bit anti diesel as a kid (because they displaced steam) but 37s do have a presence about them and are ugly in a sort of oddly attractive way!

[@cedarcam]

Yes Many times over. I remember steams last days but not old enough to go to watch trains. I did see a lot though as we often used the train to go to town. I liked steam a lot. It was only when I met a friend who went to watch trains around 1972 I began to get interested in diesels. 37's are covered in vents making them the least finished looking of EE's, I think, but I do like them and they can haul more than my favourite class 40 with 250 less horses

[@stephensmith799]

I started early, watching steam locos on shed from a line-side playground (at top of the childen's slide) c. 1958-9. It is strange that I can still smell the smoke from the coal used (Point-of-Air colliery I was told later)... the memory is that strong!

[@cedarcam]

That's something I remember as well. The smell of smoke. We lived in London a while when I was 3 1/2 to 5. I remember Kings Cross seeing the A4's Euston with Coronations and Paddington. Those pannier tanks with Walschaerts valve gear. Best of all was the Blue Pullman though Still my all time favourite train So sad non were saved

[@stephensmith799]

By accident I realised that egg sandwiches taste much better in tunnels due to sulphur dioxide gasses in loco smoke which came in through the windows... (Only with steam locos mind you.) You saw some fine locos. I only knew fairly common ones: BR 3MT tanks, Panniers, Manors, BR Standard 4 4-6-0s and 2-6-Os, 9Fs, one Britannia (at Shrewsbury) and Southern Pacifics. Those GW Panniers with outside gear were kind of cool... but I never saw one. Nothing Eastern Region at all...

[@stephensmith799]

I should have mentioned seeing Blue Pullmans at Leamington Spa. The drivers dressed like milkmen in white coats!

[@joshjones3408]

Sounds like he got 18 SPEED with double overdrive an he took off in the basement just snatching gears..👍👍👍👍👍

[@cedarcam]

Yea Some beast of a loco Others have said that as well

[@20PhantoM07]

That's train porn!

[@Ashfaq1999]

Great video. Looks like the class 37 locomotive is struggling to start up !!

[@cedarcam]

Thanks. It is the way it is being driven, leaving to controller on full power and the engine over speed cutting off the fuel to prevent damage. Not the best way to treat a locomotive.

[@nwsd50sproductions49]

When You don’t have enough money to own A Eco-Friendly Locomotive

[@cedarcam]

In those days eco friendly was not an issue. This was not the norm for the type of loco but many that are now scrapped used to pour smoke out back then

[@lecco666]

Screw eco friendly

[@leroyholm9075]

The Tiger of late 60s dieselisation!

[@cefnonn]

That's no way to treat a locomotive - or the Planet.

[@cedarcam]

There is a lot less smoke from this loco than many I have seen on a lighter load. It is the way it is being driven hard that is not good

[@1974silverboy]

cefnonn co2. Plant food. No co2, humans die from no oxygen

[@MrMusickey]

This came up on my feed for whatever reason and I know nothing about trains. What's it actually doing?

[@cedarcam]

KZbin has some odd ideas choices in my feed as well. Anyway. This is one of the UK's oldest type of locomotive still in use today They are Diesel Electric so the engine drives a generator and electric motors drive the wheels. This was filmed in the 1980's near a stone quarry. Trains are brought out in 2 halves each weighing about 1000 tons. It is a steep gradient and takes skill to get maximum power without the loco slipping. This driver is for some reason leaving to loco on full power causing the engine to overspeed and the wheels to slip. Systems on the loco cut the fuel to prevent damage to the engine and prevent damage to the electric motors which drive the loco and wheels/rails, as the revs die down fuel is again admitted to the engine which is turbo charged, at low revs the turbos are not able to draw enough air in to burn the fuel efficiently and it is being drawn through the engine into the exhausts where it is igniting causing the flames and black smoke. Thankyou for your interest and comment.

[@N0blea]

@@cedarcam This is great information. You should stick it in the video description.

[@cedarcam]

@@N0blea Not a bad idea When I uploaded this I never expected so much interest in it Recently it has gone crazy getting a few comments a day.

[@N0blea]

@@cedarcam blessed by the Algorithmic Gods of KZbin

[@cedarcam]

@@N0blea LOL Yes