Newsflash-37042 first start attempt in 17 years take 4 with water !

[@BigGoucho]

My late dad worked in the Caley in St. Rollox, Glasgow. The thing that always strikes me watching preserved locos being stroked gently back to life is the amount of work they must have needed just to stay in regular reliable service. I knew all the various bits of my dads’ work, the wheel shop, the erecting shop, the test house etc. but videos like this really bring home how hard those guys must have worked.

[@iainf]

@@BigGoucho what a lovely comment & thanks for sharing memories of your dad. What strikes me is that 'failures' seemed to be accepted as the 'norm' but like you suggest & what's coming through in the comments here is the knowledge & idiosyncrasies to keep these locos going which could only be derived from hard work but also a passion to keep them going. Wouldn't we all love to go back in a time machine to that period for even a day. I.

[@ctwalston1565]

Thanks for saving this valuable piece of railroad history!! And thanks for posting!😊

[@iainf]

My pleasure & please continue to enjoy. I.

[@andrewbennett7756]

Nice to see a survivor and life being brought back to these grand old gals

[@TCMontyDibs]

Well done , drove these for a few years and as a 2nd man walked through the engine room at full tilt many times .

[@iainf]

I'd settle for walking through it at idle !

[@drd6416]

How did you not end up deaf?

[@fordranger22]

I was on duty at Doncaster Carr Loco, where the loco had resided for many years, when someone came to look at it. I believe they bought it. Ido remember taking them out to have a look around it. Be nice to see it running again - drove it a number of times for EWS.

[@_RabbitLeader]

I would love to be in a position to drive a class 37!

[@markedmondson5364]

Would be nice to see it again Andy.👍

[@iainf]

That's interesting. I wonder if it was Graham. I'll need to ask. I.

[@fordranger22]

@@iainf would have been around 2009 I think. I remember one of the fitters firing her up a few hours before, just to see if it still worked I think.

[@iainf]

@@fordranger22spoke to Graham & it wasn't him but it might be another bloke I was chatting too who was interested in it. I.

[@nickkent6459]

I'm not a train buff, but remember these growing up. Lovely looking trains.

[@cascadesub6235]

hats off to you all for saving these machines... the dragon will clagg again... rock on... again well done

[@iainf]

Kind words. Thank-you. I.

[@Choober65]

My favourite Diesel Locomotive. I used to sit on the garden wall and chat to the drivers when I was a kid.

[@Atlantean1980]

I reckon 50 years from now class 37’s will still be rolling on British railways. Thanks to all that preserve these magnificent locomotives. Much love from Florida USA

[@iainf]

@@Atlantean1980 I was on my 70 year old Tef20 (diesel) tractor the other day & thought crickey this thing will still be going when I'm gone 😔 That's worrying. Thanks for the support. I.

[@gravelydon7072]

@@iainf I know the feeling. I have a one wheel Gravely tractor that will be a hundred in less than 3 years. And several of the two wheel ones that are over 80 and still run also.

[@BritishRail60062]

You are all doing great with 37042. Keep up the great work folks. I am sure we will see a future video of this beast springing up into life once again.

[@iainf]

@@BritishRail60062 thanks for your support. I.

[@DelticEngine]

Thank you very much for posting this video. I found it very interesting. Liked and Subscribed!

[@denis9450]

Re-built dozens of those engines in my time two on board a ship in Poland, another ship in Hull, several in Nigeria, and duel fuel ones in sewage plants in the uk easy to work on also built two on a Tug boat in Liverpool

[@BruceSymons]

Good on ya.

[@JimmysTransportMarvels]

Ohh very nice, great to see it partly going again!

[@alistairscott137]

I must admit I was getting worried about this 37s future, I am so pleased to see work being done at long last, well done guys can't wait to see her running again 👍

[@williamorton7600]

She's rough externally, but I was surprised to see how good it looks inside the engine compartment. I know you'll get her started. Best of luck.🤞

[@iainf]

Kind words of encouragement. Thanks. I.

[@adammoss5284]

Some lovely work inside that portal. She looks careworn but only scuffs like a good old pair of shoes. That moment when all becomes re-animated will be beyond words. Good luck with her.

[@STORMCLOUDGREY]

Never seen such up close & personal views if a 37 power plant before. My god - the size of those pistons! Very impressive.

[@iainf]

Thanks. My view is 'open book'. All to be shared/enjoyed. I.

[@tonyczuleger4591]

Nice work getting this gal back on the rails. Here at Perris CA. Southern California Railway Museum, we also have a dedicated staff of Volunteers working at the same goals.

[@iainf]

@@tonyczuleger4591 room for one more ? Maybe one day. Thanks for the support & good luck with your projects. I'll google you. 👍 I.

[@LandscapesDronescapes]

Photographed it a few times on my way past. Please keep posting videos when you have more content. She’s a lovely old beast

[@paramarky]

Thought I was watching an episode of Das Boot for a second - good luck with it!

[@iainf]

@@paramarky this is up there with my favourite all time comments. 'Dive, Dive' 😊 This also set me off 'down a rabbit hole' reading about Das Boot which reminds me of my own much missed grandad & his own experience of being torpedoed but the torpedo went under their shallow draft vessel. Thanks for your support.

[@paramarky]

@@iainf Your grandads generation, were without doubt the "greatest generation", but you are doing your own bit. in your own way. I am sure he'd be proud of you.

[@andrewthomasfinney752]

A nice clean crankcase, that's what we like to see. A sign of a well maintained engine. Plus, a proper sized turbo to make any boy racer envious!

[@iainf]

That's what I thought too. It's the water pump that is in the van although I still call it a turbo as it's so similar !

[@andrewthomasfinney752]

@@iainf 4:35 That's it just behind the air intakes, although we are looking at its circular air filter.

[@crickettragicfromdownunder8878]

Hope to see 37042 fired up and running soon 🤞🏻 Cheers from 🇦🇺

[@iainf]

@@crickettragicfromdownunder8878 crickey it's bonkers how far this footage has travelled. G'day mate is that appropriate ? Thanks for the support. I.

[@GlenHoff-p2v]

This reminds me of that Pink Floyd song 'Coming back to Life' Well done guys!

[@CraigMacfarlane-r3m]

Great watching the progress videos of this 37. Would love to pop down and see it. I have many memories of the double headers passing by going to Ravenscraig.

[@iainf]

I remember Ravenscraig as a kid/young man then I went in it one night after it was all knocked down & it is vast ! I.

[@CyruzTheDiamondDog]

Awesome clip. Hats off for saving the old loco. Cheers from 🇸🇪

[@iainf]

tack för att du tittade i Sverige från en skotsk kille som arbetade utanför från baksidan av en liten Peugeot skåpbil. jag.

[@randlerobbertson8792]

Noble efforts. 👌

[@freedomforever6718]

I can see this iconic locomotive coming to life very soon. Good luck.

[@iainf]

Thank-you. I.

[@trainman86trainstramsandmore]

As British Rail used to say, Were getting there!

[@TheosTrainsWalesOfficial]

Just about, anyway.

[@sandasturner9529]

Oh I really hope they restore this one I'm so stoked

[@thomasshepard6030]

The class 37 was the first locomotive that I drove on my first shift when I started with BR at eastfield traction depot springburn Glasgow 1974 I was on night shift on a refuelling job the driver was as an old steam man who was on light duty’s because he had been taken off the mainline because of a heart attack he said to me I will show you what to do and that was it I drove the 37 down to the buffer end got down to the phone and told the signal box my name and that I wanted to go into the refuelling bay he let me out onto the mainline and I drove up the mainline into the refuelling road and then into the bay the engine was fuelled up and I moved it out to its road all on my first shift my uncle was a mainline driver at eastfield and I spent many shifts with him as his fireman/ second man drove many 20s 27s 37s drove many 37s from queen street station to Oban with my uncle watching over me triple headers with 45 wagons of coal out of BARASSIE IN AYRSHIRE ON THE NIGHT SHIFT WITH MY UNCLE AND I WAS ONLY 19 at the time it was a different time then it would never be allowed now the 37 was my favourite locomotive

[@iainf]

What a wonderful post. Different times then I guess. Thanks for sharing. I.

[@allanfoster5418]

Well said 👏

[@oddities-whatnot]

Great story, cheers. I would have loved to have been a freight train driver back in the 70s and 80s, im a bit young though unfortunately.

[@fw1421]

Great story. I’ve always been interested in trains. When I was in my early teens a buddy of mine lived right by the train tracks and there would be an engine parked out there on the siding. We would crawl all over it when it was turned off. Neat old engine. This was in the 1960’s in Florida.

[@SpeccyMan]

The plural of duty is duties and it has no apostrophe. Stop apostrophe abuse! Also, learn the important role that punctuation has in the English language.

[@NeilPhillips-c7p]

Many railway enthusiasts of a certain age will remember the large number of Class 37s in South Wales working coal trains amongst many other duties. However before the Western Region obtained its Class 37 fleet it borrowed a pair of Eastern Region machines for testing and clearance trials, one of which was this locomotive, D6742 as it was when built.

[@iainf]

@@NeilPhillips-c7p wow. I've never really researched 042s background although I did know it was a South Wales loco , Canton I believe. Certainly never researched it the way I have with 26040 but of course 040 is v.special to Jeffray & I. I really should but I'm a bit busy atm as you can imagine. Thanks for the support. I.

[@timoteiafanasie4894]

Finally someone starting an engine in the summer... I never thought is possible

[@iainf]

@@timoteiafanasie4894 it was a big push as I was aware it had never done anything electrical for all those years & I wanted optimum conditions (period of dry & warm). I.

[@rickyperks3895]

They sound awesome when pulling mass weight just roar power thundering away

[@thepharcyde5239]

Used to see the Beasts at Bescott Yard .hope ya get it roaring again.❤

[@justinobrien3593]

one of the best 1960s British locomotives ever built and one of the most useful EE machines that's why a few are still on the main lines today!!!😎

[@iainf]

Yes definitely.

[@hughtygrehan5005]

I love those old oil burners - character ⛽👏👍

[@terrylear4219]

Well done.

[@jameseastwood4984]

Funny to think these diesel engines will be the 'steam engines' to the next generation that they never saw running. Somewhat related, we went on the Welsh Highlands Railway recently at Bedgellert, this is a world class restored railway with imaculately prepared engines and rolling stock, very professionally turned out.

[@redbandrebuilds951]

She will come back to life!

[@jamesburnside3023]

Awesome event well built product

[@Shelfandtabletoplayouts00gauge]

Way to go! Here’s to the future 👍

[@abundantYOUniverse]

The English Electric Co. dials! They are the company that made the Englis Electric Wren airplane. It had a 46 foot wingspan and flew on 3 hp! Shuttleworth Collection has one.

[@kennethmcintyre2847]

Need to pay a visit the next time I am in the area.

[@ithinkitsjames619]

id love to work with these locos one day, id love to work on the railway and eventually be a driver but it's far out of reach at the moment, applying to every job at stations near me im qualified for but all no's so far. i hope it works out some day

[@iainf]

Keep in there buddy & keep trying. I.

[@DanStanbridge]

So close, fantastic to see work progressing on the old girl, keep it up and she be firing in no time 🤘🤘

[@slashnburndotcodotuk]

I saw the Sealey boost pack and thought "I do admire their optimism"

[@iainf]

I know- even I smile at it all at times. Fingers crossed & onwards & upwards.

[@Welderady]

I thought that I recognised this engine, the company I work for travels far and wide and sometimes all over the world to buy these engines and they install them as power generators after connecting them to an alternator or they end up as drive motors for shredders at scrapyards, English Electric and Ruston, Basically the same engine as they had some sort of partnership at some point in engineering history.

[@pieterpost563]

She Will Come back to life 🫡🫡

[@nounoufriend]

Great work hope you have it running soon, spent many years working on 37s at Immingham. Would have thought it would start when you racked it , looks to me like no fuel in fuel rail as governor/ run valve won't stop it running when racking

[@iainf]

Hi. That's what we did in the following upload '37042 lives again' where we managed to purge a lot but not all of the air out of it & it start to come to life. What a feeling tbh. 😊 I.

[@justinobrien3593]

good video 🥰😊

[@charleshenderson1174]

Thanks

[@christhompson2126]

Well I saw (and heard!!!) enough of 'em blasting away from Tees Yard with southbound freights passing through Thornaby station (my workplace in the late 1960s). Otherwise, have made many sound recordings of these beasties elsewhere.

[@richardadkins6998]

Good luck. I imagine it won’t be long before you the engine running.

[@iainf]

Hopefully. I'm feeling under a bit pressure. I.

[@DOCTORDROTT]

I would give the fuel system a good prime on the fuel rail bleed screw on both banks. and check the engine run valve coil and the little filter behind the governor A common fault in later years was the fuel priming pump would fail, brushes sticking and dirty comms. Wish I was closer. I have done every job on these locos over the years when at Cardiff Canton

[@iainf]

@@DOCTORDROTT we're gravity feeding out of the overhead tank & have bled it to clean fuel on both banks. The engine run valve needs further investigation & we need to try & give it another good bleed. Tbh I'm happy where we've got it too atm. Thanks for the support & I wish you were closer too , to come along & help ! I.

[@DOCTORDROTT]

@@iainf Get the fuel priming pump sorted and she will start better without hammering the batteries. You need fuel pressure at the fuel rail . The run valve is easy to check , but make sure the small gauze filter is clean

[@rossbryan6102]

THE MAIN PROBLEM OF STARTING AND LARGE DIESEL ENGINE AFTER AN LONG LAYUP IS THE CARBON THAT HAS ACCUMULATED IN THE ENGINE VALVES BREAKS AWAY AND GETS ON THE VALVE SEATING AREAS! THIS GREATLY DECREASES COMPRESSION AND CAUSES AN START FAILURE! HAVE PLENTY OF BATTERY POWER, GIVE HER AN SPRITZ OF ETHER AND WHEN SOME OF THE VALVE SEATS START SEALING SHE WILL FIRE OFF FINE! BEEN THERE ,DONE THAT!! KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!! 👍👍

[@ЛЬВИНИ]

Very nice, like.

[@jamesmckenzie3532]

It's great to see these old ladies being worked on. Sady 214 will be going to the scrap yard as it's engine was not restorable.

[@iainf]

@@jamesmckenzie3532 hi-214 & the Scottish 37 group have been kind to both 37042 & me. There are some good people up there. 👍

[@jamesmckenzie3532]

@@iainf True. The group unfortunately made the decision to fully retire 37214. However, they did restore two class 37 engines and routinely use them on the local railroad. I would love to see them add a class 55 engine to their stable.

[@iainf]

@@jamesmckenzie3532 Deltics are at another level in terms of upkeep & complexity however & I've only been at D9000 at LSL I can see they are something special. Like when I did motorsport/ do enduro off road motorcycling everything is better (as bigger) in England & that would be my advice to travel there.👍

[@jamesmckenzie3532]

@@iainf Thanks. I'm across the Pond living in the Desert and love to see older English engines restored to service. We are working on a plan to restore the local Southern Pacific Mogul engine to full steam. Estimates are 1.5 to 2 million USD and three years of combined volunteer and contracted labor.

[@iainf]

@@jamesmckenzie3532 wow. Hope you can manage the squabbling ! Good luck. I.

[@philsa9402]

All the best to all those involved 😅was this a darlington built loco .....my home town does she still have her train heating boiler

[@iainf]

Not sure about where it was built without looking but sadly it has a concrete block instead of its boiler now to keep the weight distribution right I.

[@HarryFlashmanVC]

An elegant machine from a more civilized age

[@31144]

Are you racking it or letting the governor try to open the racks (it isnt) ?, if the rad fan grill has been left uncovered I will guarentee the big junction box on the floor of the cooler group is full of water and causing all kinds of earth faults, 1 will be the engine run solenoid not energising hence the governor not picking the rack up hence manually opening the rack using the governor arm, have you primed and bled the fuel rails using the manual prime button which is on same panel as local start ? Bleed bolts on end of fuel rails, does the local start button not work ?, if you rack it with primed fuel rails and the fuel injection pump plungers are all free that will start

[@iainf]

Hi. I don't know if you do fb but I've covered quite a bit of it all on my 26040 page where I've had issues with the junction box. The ERS is fed by p10 which comes off the afc relay & does the fuel pump but we're not running the electric pump but we've fed the overhead tank & are gravity feeding (filling those tanks would bankrupt a small country). It's no secret that I'm just a bloke that claims to know a wee bit about engines but tonight you've joined the dots for me as I was thinking the fuel prime pump will run all the time in EO but then as you suggested, although indirectly, why would you have a prime function on the engine room start. I'm never going to see voltage at the ERS unless it's turning or as you suggest the prime button is pressed as of course the pump & ERS run off the same fuse etc. Thank-you so much. The rack seems to have been locked but it's been freed off now but we ran out of time sadly on Sat however I'll be back at it soon hopefully. Thanks for your help/support. I. At the moment there is so much going on & I've got good people in the background but inadvertently tonight I think you might have put the final piece in the jigsaw. I now need to press the prime button which should energise the fuel pump wiring & of course the ERS through p10.

[@31144]

Is the local start button working ? Always good to crank it from that position so you can keep an eye on the governor, racks and oil pressure, if you just want to fire it up rack it manually and control it from that arm, you may strike lucky and the extra volts coming from the AVR may help the run solenoid pick up, let oil to the governor and open the racks and take the engine off your manual input like it should but from personal experience I'd be back in that junction box ( can't remember the wire number) with a wire brush, some WD40 and a tube of dielectric grease and start cleaning those terminals, it will fire up now but good luck getting it fired up on the button, Edit : also make sure the multi working cable receptacles aren't full of water

[@iainf]

@@31144 yes the local start does work. I've been into the junction box & cleaned it all up. You've helped me join up the dots re the ERS . I'm itching to get back to it now. I.

[@benglasgow]

@@iainf keep us posted! :D

[@ralfie8801]

Are you sure it will prime the pumps by gravity feeding? American locomotives require the low pressure fuel lines to be pressurized by the fuel pump (75 PSI) on a GE 7FDL-16 for example, in order to get enough fuel into each individual injection pump for them to fire their cylinder. Edit: But I see from another comment that you’re using an emergency overhead gravity feed tank, our locomotives don’t have that feature. It still might be a better idea to get it running first on the normal fuel system using the locomotive’s fuel pump, even if you have to use a barrel of fuel and make a few hoses to connect it all up.

[@richardknott2021]

Rust inhibiter in water also..built locomotives for G m 30 years.

[@iainf]

Yes. All drained for winter now though. I.

[@Schlipperschlopper]

Did they prime the oil pressure before cold start and bleed the diesel lines?

[@iainf]

An electric oil pump primes & we did a lot of checking beforehand to make sure everywhere was getting oil. This was mainly by taking covers off. Priming the diesel through was an issue but we got there in the end. I

[@Schlipperschlopper]

@@iainf ok great! good work!

[@Trains-With-Shane]

Bringing something like this back to life is definitely a game of inches. At the very end what are those things that are going in and out on that shaft? Are those compression relief valves?

[@iainf]

Hi. It's the fuel rack being manually opened going in & out.

[@troyb1733]

First time on your link. Is the turbo shot? Is that what was lying on the cab floor? I worked for G.E. on the AC4400's and the 6000 h.p. junk. Great luck to you all!

[@iainf]

Hi. No it's one of the water pumps. Both leaking after all those years idle sadly. We had blanks made to be able to plug it all up & test fill. I.

[@ianconder1626]

Grate job to build yes 37

[@nounoufriend1442]

Hi hope you get get it running well soon , retired Immingham fitter here spent to many years working on these LOL your lucky not having any liner seals leaking we use to get loads leaking , you going to risk pressure testing them ? Racks didn't look to be opening ,you had enough oil pressure to open them , even with racks shut it should still fire when you popped fuel pump . Did you try racking it (manually opening rack ? ) we use to rack loco's but 37's usually fire up instantly if well primed , are you getting fuel at fuel rail ? is transfer pump running .

[@iainf]

I think priming is the issue tbh. We thought we had it primed but need to try again. Yes liner seals were always going to be the test. It's that clean inside the casing & someone mentioned an updated seal might be fitted. Even any water that came out of it whilst I was struggling with the myriad of valves was crystal clear. I'm not going to pressurise it as such but instead keep all my fingers & toes crossed for luck ! I.

[@nounoufriend1442]

@@iainf Yes think we were fitting Viton liner seals towards the end , maybe pressurising could cause a leak , looked like you had enough oil pressure on priming pump to open racks . Even without any effort from governor you should be able to start engine by manually opening fuel racks , I'd be checking you got fuel up to the fuel rail . If you got some fuel pressure at fuel rail they don't normally need bleeding , we never had to bleed system

[@gep2771]

Cool, reminds me of Diesel 10 from Thomas The Train.

[@mikefandango294]

The class 37 was my basic Engine as a Traction Trainee! 1991.

[@iainf]

Oh to go back to then even for just one day !

[@TILOfficialYT]

Indeed. Nobody's laughing now! So close to the goal!

[@iainf]

I'm so going to quote that in this years Xmas special ! I.

[@TILOfficialYT]

@@iainf Go for it mate!

[@multa765]

Who was laughing?

[@iainf]

Quite a few people tbh. Experts with their own links to 37s were the worse. A few red faces but it was never about that. I.

[@BroadgaugeJaffa]

George Meredith mentioned in one of his poems “It’s hard but how we love it when it comes together” Well done everyone Im not sure if that’s correct or entirely true but you get the gist 😂

[@iainf]

@@BroadgaugeJaffa here's another one -'it's not the failing that is difficult but coping with the hope' or similar.🥲

[@FeckHallBahn]

0:46 Is this the old Ravenglass (R&ER) footbridge?

[@iainf]

Hi. No the bridge was originally from Gainsborough. I.

[@Flymochairman1]

As I've just caught up with this, how's the chassis? All good? So is it to a paint and a full tank of fuel next or is it not holding the oil pressure sufficiently? Is a new Oil Pump required as well? Aye, a wee coat of paint(sic) would turn a few detractors heads, but if it's not a good idea until the rest is running and ready to move, it's understandable. Good on you lads for getting it this far. Have you formed a 'Group' around the restoration yet? Thanks for the post Iain. Cheers!

[@DaveMuirhead]

When was this in full service for the last time?

[@iainf]

We believe & from memory 2007 where it was essentially 'switched off' then stored. Was told it last ran in storage 2009. I.

[@EdwardEngines]

I’m assuming there’s a low pressure pump that feeds the injector pumps for each cylinder - is that at fault? Is there fuel at the pumps? Doesn’t look too hard?

[@iainf]

@@EdwardEngines We're using the overhead emergency tank that gravity feeds. Yes fuel at all the pumps but we're going to have to attempt to bleed it all up again. Tbh we ran out of time yesterday but my approach is 'open book' so put it out there for others too enjoy. I.

[@EdwardEngines]

@@iainf Sounds good Iain, maybe some sticking delivery valves if it’s been out of use for some time? As you say, get some fuel out of the high pressure side and then up to the injectors and you should be good to go. Maybe a lit rag or a can of ether too 🫢

[@andr3wbr1dg3s]

I'd rather see this than some highly polished preservation toy

[@iainf]

Yip & in my favourite battleship grey blotches over the repairs. I.

[@stephensmith4480]

I wonder which Depot 37042 was allocated to? I worked at Warrington from the very first day of EWS.

[@iainf]

@@stephensmith4480 not sure atm. I guess in time I'll find out more about it.

[@stephensmith4480]

@@iainf Nice one Mate, if I find out I will let you know 👍👍

[@mikeuk4130]

First to Darnall on 15/6/62.

[@mikeuk4130]

Good to see the first one from the second batch coming back to life. I love the look of the EE Type 3 with the split head code boxes. The best of the best. Best wishes for the success of your project.

[@andyrichards2569]

Assuming its all compressing and the injection point is right no smoke means no fuel being injected . Yes ideally it needs the blower but it should fire over and chuff smoke if it's injecting

[@iainf]

@@andyrichards2569 yes there's no fuel going in but on take 1 it was (residual likely) which threw us off the scent sort of speak. I.

[@johnnyseagull29]

Whats a Blower?

[@ralfie8801]

@@johnnyseagull29 It’s what you’d call a supercharger on a drag race car. Mechanically driven, on a 4 stroke diesel engine it increases the air charge in 5he cylinders while the engine is running. On a 2 stroke Diesel engine it supplies air to the engine and pushes the exhaust out of the cylinders when the intake ports and the exhaust valves are open at the same time. This type of diesel would be referred to as normally aspirated even though it has a blower because the engine can’t run without it. Then you have a turbocharged 2 stroke diesel that is a bit different in that the turbo is a hybrid - gear driven like a blower at low RPMs and then exhaust driven at higher RPMs via clutch pack that disengages the gear drive when the exhaust has enough pressure and heat to drive the turbo faster than the gear train can. The turbo version of diesel I am referring to is an EMD made in the US.

[@johnnyseagull29]

@@ralfie8801 OK. Thanks. I'm still a bit confused. Why would an engine with two turbos need a blower?

[@ralfie8801]

@@johnnyseagull29 It wouldn’t. He must have misspoken. I don’t know anything about a Deltic or it’s power plants, or I would have caught that to begin with. But if it’s a twin turbo engine and it’s missing a turbo, then the remaining one won’t run the engine correctly, maybe not at all if the inlet ducting is all tied together and the air intake piping is open where the missing turbo is supposed to be. So if I’m getting this right, a Deltic locomotive has two engines in it, and each engine has two turbos? Edit: But on the other hand, the engine pictured in the video resembles an EMD 2 stroke diesel, it would need at least one blower to even run, it’s possible that in a British design it may have a blower(s) and a separate turbo feeding the blower like a Detroit 8V-92T has. EMD engines have 2 blowers or 1 of their hybrid gear driven turbos. Maybe the Delton has two blowers and a turbo feeding each blower.

[@slartybartfast5368]

Looks like a Paxman V12…. From working with Paxmans on ships I can confirm, if it’s not leaking oil it doesn’t have any oil in it….but I’m sure you guys know that already 😂🤣😂

[@iainf]

English Electric 12 cvst. They say that about old land rovers (not leaking as they're empty). I.

[@DOCTORDROTT]

When I worked on them, we pressure tested to 15 psi . Did this many times over 45 years .

[@iainf]

@@DOCTORDROTT of course it could still leak under pressure but whilst I tried to figure out the myriad of valves for the cooling system the water pouring out of the fill points was crystal clear. Even where it sat for a few days with the pumps off it was crystal clear so here's hoping. I.

[@DOCTORDROTT]

@@iainf Not treated clear water ( coolant ) is bad for the engine. It causes cavitation that attack the liners. When you get it running right, use proper engine coolant / anti freeze. Or drain down after use. To do a pressure test put 15 psi into the header tank relief valve. We did that hundreds of times at Canton to check liner seals, we had over 100.. 37's based there at one time

[@ralfie8801]

@@DOCTORDROTT I don’t know what the coolant requirement is on this locomotive, but in the US they don’t use antifreeze in them because it’s too costly and can be dumped in the environment if there’s an engine failure. We use a boron water treatment solution in them to prevent corrosion in the cooling system. It doesn’t prevent the coolant from freezing, but all of our locomotives are equipped with automatic water dump valves that drain the cooling system if the water temperature gets down to around 35 degrees F.

[@DOCTORDROTT]

@@ralfie8801 We use to use Borax , then it went to anti freeze, then proper engine coolant.

[@Śiśna3633]

For those non British, is it a Paxman, Brush Bagnall or English Electric? 3000HP?

[@iainf]

Hi-English Electric 12csvt 1750hp

[@brucerogermorgan2388]

It would have been nice if somebody bothered to mention what type/make of engine it is. Obviously not a Deltic, I would recognise one of those..

[@iainf]

@@brucerogermorgan2388 'somebody bothered' 😕 Normally I'd delete a comment like yours as petulance but this vid has reached way more than the intended audience solely interested in 37042 so I'm responding by saying I've recognised this reaction & any future vid. will take this on board. Every days a school day as I near 100k views in 7 days..... Thanks for your constructive critique. A point that needed to be made but unforeseen last Sat night as I quickly made a vid on my phone before dinner & a glass of red wine. 👍 I.

[@brucerogermorgan2388]

@@iainf Thanks for your reply, but I would still like to know what engine this is. I'm a long-time rail fan but not really familiar with English locos. I only know the Deltic engines because they are so unique. I must admit that I don't know all the engines we use here in New Zealand either, although I know that some of our railcars were French-built. I'm actually much more interested in the engines over the actual locomotives.

[@iainf]

@@brucerogermorgan2388 apologies. It's an English Electric 12csvt.

[@tommitchell8425]

This reminds of that Sinatra movie Assault on a Queen..

[@tommitchell8425]

Correction Das Boot

[@iainf]

Fantastic. I googled this & started watching it ! Will need to find the time to finishing doing so. I.

[@colinashby3775]

I would love to see what the batteries looked like

[@iainf]

Hi @@colinashby3775 - I'll be chatting a bit more about my car batteries in the Xmas special which I'm working through now for 25/12/24 😊

[@colinashby3775]

@ thanks. Looking forward to seeing their size

[@darrenfarrell-bn2cb]

Big Project that.

[@haroldreardon1407]

Just how big is the steering wheel in this locomotive you say you DROVE ???

[@harrypenn611]

❤

[@TechOne7671]

Great work and progress, she’s not for away from firing up. Is that at Boness ?

[@iainf]

Eden Valley near Appleby. Essentially halfway between Penrith & Scotch Corner on the A66. You don't get sunshine like that in Scotland (I'm Scottish so can say that 😊).

[@TechOne7671]

@@iainf I thought I heard some Scottish accents!! I’ll need to have a look out for that the next time I am down there. Need to get back to Boness too. Cheerd

[@iainf]

@@TechOne7671 ha ha just my Scottish accent but I try to hide it. Tbh I've turned English 👍🥲👍

[@todayintheshopbanksy5904]

These loco's, does the Diesel drive the wheels or does it generate electric for electric motors to drive the wheels

[@chrishartley4553]

Its a diesel-electric loco.

[@iainf]

Hi. Yes electric traction motors are driven off an engine driven generator. I.

[@ianhudson2193]

Jammed oil cut off valve so no governor oil pressure?????

[@iainf]

Yes. It's all pointing towards that & needing to make sure it's properly bled. I.

[@rocksreynolds3642]

What condition is the fuel pump and feed lines from the tanks? Everything can look in good shape but you still have zero fuel pressure due to a clogged pickup filter. Just thoughts. Keep up the good work!

[@iainf]

@@rocksreynolds3642 spookily I've literally just left the loco 2mins ago & this is a conversation I've just been having with Marcus in the loco. Yes it's coming out the bleeds but it might not be coming sufficiently out to the pumps etc. We're investigating that next & might try a touch of feeding it under pressure. Thanks for the support. I.

[@Tom-Lahaye]

I'm sure you have looked over most of the aspects in my comment but there may be an overlooked cause. No white smoke means no fuel. Check fuel shut off valve. Does the fuel pump run? Have the feeder lines been properly bled from air? if so is there fuel pressure? (crack one of the connections slightly with fuel pump running). With a faulty governor the engine should go when manually racked. Check the engine emergency stop contactors, I'm not sure about which ones the class 37 has but the class 24 has three, low water pressure, low oil pressure and overspeed, all three faults will stop the engine immediately, normally indicated by a red light on the cab control panel By the looks of it the injector pumps are working fine and if not worked on the timing should be OK. With faulty nozzles you should at least see smoke, even when the engine won't fire. Note, I worked on some locomotive classes (Sulzer and Maybach) in preservation and wrote this comment with some direct knowledge and using a class 24 operating manual. So I don't have direct experience with a class 37 or other EE traction.

[@iainf]

Hi. Yes 26040 is similar with all the sensors. A 37 has a float level switch but we've attended to that for the time being. I'm used to 040s set up & for that reason I'm going to head up to friends 37097 & have a good look over & feel how that is. For ex the pump racks seem really soft on a 37. It's that sort of experience I need to pick up. I.

[@johndonaldson3619]

@@iainf Check for water in the fuel tanks...

[@iainf]

@@johndonaldson3619 hi-we're using the overhead tank only which was empty & we flushed out what amounted to a couple of juice cans of the residual old fuel out the system so it should be ok but I'll be revisiting that next time. Thanks for your support. I.

[@jimmycburfield5997]

Interesting

[@allannorman2359]

Can l ask why only run for a minute..

[@iainf]

Lots of reasons mainly though that there were no water pumps in it & it was agreed that running for a couple of mins each time & checking in between for unforeseen events would be the best way forward. We really wanted to get on with it & keep moving forward. On a more pragmatic note the other guys had their work in the morning & it was getting late ! 😊 I.

[@MrLaydownsally]

No fuel delivery

[@lisab3396]

👍👍

[@keithnoneya]

So what does someone use an old train engine for?

[@iainf]

Heritage line running for enthusiasts mainly. I.

[@keithnoneya]

@@iainf I guess I could see that. I suppose it could also be used as a back up generator for a large building or a hospital if you could figure out how to tap into the electric generator in it. Of course the building would have to be next to some train tracks though. 😄

[@robertlugo3512]

Get her back on the mainline !

[@iainf]

Certainly a lot closer to mainline now. Long way to go though. I.

[@stretchedits]

Oh nice, may I ask why you use water, I guess instead of diesel? Doesn't the water contaminate the interior of the power unit? I don't know, just asking the question.................Nice to see any loco brought back to life. All the best and great work, Dave.

[@iainf]

In service they used to just use water & during winter they would let them run all night. In preservation they tend to have an antifreeze mix.

[@damioncartwright3891]

Cooling system full of water and no leaks found internally such as inside the crankcase I would assume.

[@iainf]

@@damioncartwright3891 sorry yes.. If we'd looked in the casing doors & it was like a fountain it would have been 'game over' really tbh. I.

[@davidstark6507]

Will I see you had to crankcase inspection covers off if that locomotive set for 15 years can you imagine how dried a bearings are on the ends of them rods on that crankshaft I'm surprised you guys didn't take a pump sprayer filled with lubricant and spray all them bearing mains down get some kind of oil on them so they ain't dry turning you know you could spin a bearing real simply by doing a dry startups

[@iainf]

@@davidstark6507 there's an electric oil pump that primes firstly & on another inspection (not on the KZbin vid but on fb) we had the pump running with the covers off to make sure all the oil was circulating. We could see this oil l coming out the chain & dripping out the bores meaning it was getting everywhere. We must have ran it like this for about 30 mins total in batches so by the time it came to trying to turn it over to start for the first time I was satisfied it was well 'oiled'. Then of course the engine was 'spun' (bad pun I know 🥲) again for what was probably about 10 mins in batches whilst we got on top of the fuel system (with the oil pump running). Such is the interest in the loco & it starting I'll pull together some of the prior content & put out a compilation of my phone footage showing this. Thanks for the support. I.

[@craigpennington1251]

Hope there's a follow up cause it did not start.

[@iainf]

Of course. Hopefully in take 5.

[@phillipg1588]

Any update?

[@iainf]

@@phillipg1588 yes hopefully but I can't comment on it just yet other than it'll be good news for the loco. We also plan to do another 'Christmas Special' where we'll review the year & chat about locos 040 & 042 showing some unseen footage. Thanks for the support. I.

[@iainf]

@@phillipg1588 there is a follow up vid '37042 lives again ' & yes hopefully there is good news but I can't comment on it just yet other than it'll be good news for the loco. We also plan to do another 'Christmas Special' where we'll review the year & chat about locos 040 & 042 showing some unseen footage. Thanks for the support. I.