Friedrich der Große - Testing Buffed Dispersion & Günther Lütjens

[@Flamuu]

German unique commander Günther Lütjens: - Secondary Armament Expert: after receiving 100 "Secondary hits" ribbons, the reload time of secondary armament is reduced by 15%. Talent can be activated once per battle. - Iron Strike: after receiving 140 "Main battery hits" ribbons, the reload time of the main battery is reduced by 7.5%. Talent can be activated once per battle. - Exemplary Reconnaissance: after receiving 3 "Spotted " ribbons, the ship's hit points are partially restored. The talent restores 300 hit points per second. Its duration in seconds is equal to the ship's tier (e.g. Tier V = 5 seconds; Tier VI = 6 seconds; etc.). This talent can be activated repeatedly. - Air superiority: After receiving 30 "Rocket hits", "Bomb hits", or "Torpedo hits" ribbons, the aircraft restoration time is reduced by 10%. Talent can be activated once per fight. The new commander also has the following improved skills: - Preventive Maintenance: -45% to the risk of modules becoming incapacitated instead of the basic -30%. - Expert Marksman: +3 deg/sec to the traverse speed of turrets with a gun caliber up to 139 mm and +1 deg/sec to the traverse speed of turrets with a gun caliber above 139 mm instead of basic +2.5/0.7 deg/sec. - Improved Engine Boost: +12.5% to the aircraft engine boost time instead of the basic -10%. As always, thank you for watching and your support! Stream: www.twitch.tv/flamuu Insta: instagram.com/flamugram/ Twitter: twitter.com/flamuchz Discord: discord.gg/Flamu

[@Flamuu]

Air superiority is completely bugged atm as well, I kept getting that buff on Hinden and Z-52.

[@alexanderelson6324]

I find the heal perk hilarious, people were arguing on reddit about it being incredibly op, but I mean its reddit they blow things way out of proportion when they put more than one brain cell dedicated to thinking about something. I'd agree if it were to swap to spotting damage the perk would be more consistent and easier to control for a mediocre amount of hp.

[@cobrazax]

@@alexanderelson6324 well its a free SE skill...but based on luck. a nice buff but not a consistent one or a totally OP one.

[@la_potat6065]

My personal opinion on the matter. German BBs need an accuracy buff no doubt. But to tweak dispersion values to be better than what they actually should be - breaks dispersion balance. The universal rule is faster shells will have worst dispersion especially vertical than slower shells, as trade off for high initial pen and short shell travel time and the opposite happens for slower shells. High tier wise. Germany, Italians, Russian and French exceed to the 800m/s+ shell velocities. It is naturally expected for them to have worst dispersion. Meanwhile - US, British and Japanese have sub 800m/s shell velocities mainly 732m/s 762m/s 780m/s. So you are saying to me German BB shells with faster velocities will match dispersion of US and British ships, with no form of penalty for those faster shells? That rather makes slower shells and their supposedly better dispersion redundant, when you can have faster Russian and German with equal dispersion elipse. I’m sorry but this is just Russian BBs and their dispersion buffs all over again, its too much. First the Russians and now Germans. What about French and Italian battleships then, who are subjected to their large dispersion? It is powercreep that started with russian bbs. German BBs still need an accuracy buff no doubt. Soo why couldn’t they just raise the entire lines Sigma Value? I was expecting a sigma buff from 1.8 to 1.9 - hell even up to 2.0 if im feeling guilty. A sigma buff would solve many things. German BBs have a weakness with poor dispersion topped with a low amount of guns. Compare that to the French which have up to 12-16 guns, with more guns on average for the entire line. The french bb dispersion is compensated for high number of shells. A sigma buff for German BBs would be well sufficient. They will keep their poor and expected dispersion values, but a higher sigma would mean for more consistent salvoes. Other good examples are Izumo. Izumo is punished with one of the worst vertical dispersion values to date, as trade off to having the fastest 16inch shells in the whole game tied to slava. Izumo was notorious for its poor accuracy. Buut she was buffed with a 2.0 Sigma. And on top of other things made her a strong t9 bb. Non would even consider the accuracy buff too much because she still keeps her bad dispersion - but fires more consistent volleys. Albeit Izumo’s pen buff i find too much, idk how 16inch shells match republiques 17inch shells in pen by mere 1-2mm at all ranges.

[@kmsgneisenau436]

@@la_potat6065 talk about mountains out of mole hills, I find it hard to believe that you watched the whole video... The dispersion and the spread of shells is tightened at CLOSER ranges, which is where the German BBs are supposed to be played, and expected to thrive, with their turtle back armor and solid secondary armaments. The LONG range dispersion hasn't improved that much, which means that the USN and IJN will still be able to out shoot the Germans in the longer range engagement, the biggest thing that's changed is that now it's a little more dangerous as a big bad BB to get close the German big bad BBs because their main guns will be able to hit you with more than 2 shells while exposing almost a full broadside to get more than 4-6 guns on target withing 10 kilometers while the US, Japanese, Russian and French BBs could both bleed you out at long range and have more consistent close range performance.

[@alexmelia8873]

"pay attention to this dispersion..." Proceeded to exit zoom view and turns away

[@georgecurtis3322]

Another issue with the healing skill for DDs is that you're most likely to get the most spotting ribbons at the beginning of a match, when you're still full hp so the heal doesn't do anything

[@hailitalia86]

Exactly, was trying to get my clanmate to realize how dumb it is.

[@TwoCraZyEyes0]

Yea people on reddit were freaking out and thought Gunther was gonna OP af

[@thegreatbookofgrudges6953]

Except you going to be spotted by carriers in early game and they will harassing you.

[@eriktrimble8784]

And, of course, the fact that the German DDs have the second worst detection in the game for a DD. So your spotting ability is severely limited in the fact of, oh, ANY other DD being around.

[@hailitalia86]

@@thegreatbookofgrudges6953 Well duh, if there's CV's all tactics for all ships have to change

[@beherith2874]

5:27 pretty sure ive never seen a Freddy do that to a musashi or yamato at that range ever.

[@la_potat6065]

Officer Patty Ngl that made me tear up abit, that was beautiful. The usual would be shells falling 1km short or 1km over with a bunch of overpens.

[@thetigerii9506]

it truly warms my heart to see that dispersion

[@twelvepasttwelve529]

I orgasmed

[@TheRealSuperhavoc]

Pretty sure I've never seen a German BB do that to _any_ ship at that range ever

[@yansuki4240]

fdg are so infuriating to use, even at short range. i want to slam my face on keyboard, everytime that happen.

[@unimatrix7381]

He should get extra bonus for the Bismark . it was his ship

[@sirdancealot2645]

If your rudder is hit, you will not be able to repair it and turn around until you die?

[@tramachi7027]

@@sirdancealot2645 But the chance is nigh impossible and it has to be a Swordfish dropping that torp. Otherwise its just gonna be normal duration :)

[@jamesbeach5445]

even though the crew hated him and he treated Lindemann like shit

[@adelbertschulz8049]

nah, to much radio contact with the OKM.And its the Lindemann ship, not Lütjens. Lindemann give the order to shoot at Hood.

[@cl4ster17]

Extra bonus like increased chance to unleash "fun and engaging" upon Hood.

[@captaintomato5433]

Ah Weegee. Buffs everyone else with a tweezer, balances the Russians with a sledgehammer. I'm still glad though, help for the German BBs were long overdue. Here's hoping the cruisers get some help soon as well. Edit: and @Flamu. The spotting thing is evidently designed for carriers in mind. Carriers can't heal, and this is Weegee's 200IQ move :P for a secondary build Graf Zep.

[@sirdancealot2645]

Agreed...

[@colmcorbec7031]

Ah yes. The secondary build GZ carrier... Well played weegee

[@gusp6612]

I’ve been away from the game for a while now. Last I heard German cruiser were amazing. The fire chance are nothing amazing sure, but the built in IFHE was really strong. People use Hindenburg all the time for the fire support role in competitive.

[@captaintomato5433]

@@gusp6612 Hindenburg has been rendered largely obsolete thanks to the rate of fire nerf and buff to the Henri. Now the Smolensk has functionally taken over both as fire support ships.

[@gusp6612]

Captain Tomato the rof nerf is only a second isn’t it? I mean the Hindenburg is still a strong ship right? 50mm HE pen is no joke. I mean what kind of help will the ship need? Has the new meta made Hindenburg weak? The only German cruiser that needed help is Yorck and Hipper.

[@ironmann16]

It's gonna be so kickass to have Admiral Lütjens on the Bismarck in game with the wartime camo. 10/10. WG

[@4Funand4You]

How about we make the secondary reaload boost stackable? Then im gonna show these smolensks and Harus what a Dakka is

[@jojodivas9211]

Smolensk: *Laughs in Extended Range upgrade and AFT*

[@grimmshredsanguinus2915]

Yeah 1sec reload

[@sorrynotsorry8224]

2:50 "You don't really need rudder" *cries in Bismarck*

[@ilovedemocracyy]

SwordFish wants to know your location

[@steelwarrior105]

Confirmation Bias is the principle/term you were looking for

[@TheScania1991]

'BTW, check that dispersion now at close and medium ranges' *proceeds with devstriking a Musashi at 8km' Player base: 'wait, that's illegal'

[@grimmshredsanguinus2915]

They ll make it legal

[@damiandorhoff719]

At this Point I am asking myself how this new Dispersion Looks like on the Gneisenau. If that Ship is workable at mid range every other German Bb is.

[@Jognt]

It's workable. I rebought it for the snowflake thing and it's no longer like how I remember it. I remember it as painful, frustrating, and annoying. Just felt like any other few-guns BB.

[@damiandorhoff719]

@@Jognt That is nice to hear

[@Karandar]

Nice explanation of the tweaks and captain. Thanks !

[@Arthion]

Admiral Lütjens was the man in charge of Operation Rheinübung, the first and only sortie of Bismarck and prior to that in charge of Scharnhorst and Gneissenau during Operation Berlin, their raid into the Atlantic. He's also notable for having been critical of the Nazi regime and its brutality so I understand why they chose him.

[@fachrezaekakurnia9974]

Make german engineering great again 💪💪💪

[@aclassic19]

Does this dispersion buff make the 420 mm guns any more viable on the Kurfurst or are the 406 mm guns still the only ones you can use?

[@SouthParkCows88]

Gunna put my Günther Lütjens Cap on the Bismarck as he captained the ship in real life. Going to be sweeeeeeet!!!!!

[@Abensberg]

ackchuyally ernst lindemann was the captain... lütjens, as an admiral, was the commander of the "operation rheinübung" (so basically he had high command of bismarck, prinz eugen and some destroyers)

[@SouthParkCows88]

@@Abensberg true but he was killed while aboard the ships bridge. So i count him as a captain aboard her as well, seeing how I doubt WG will make a Ernst Lindemann cap. Lol could put Günter on really any German BB Scharnhorst or Gneisenau. He was leader of em all. I'm glad modern Germany honored him twice as well.

[@gusp6612]

Still waiting for Erich Bey, Raeder, or Donitz if sub ever make it to live server

[@Zazume_]

10:13 Dmg Cons fire that was about to run out in 5 seconds, dies to flooding a few seconds after :D

[@jeremyesh5969]

He would have died if he hadn't. Also he died from torpedoes

[@DaManBearPig]

at least my favorite faction is getting some attention finally I'm just really happy about that alone

[@evarno1262]

who gets the spotting damage seems really random too too many times i sail around a ship, constantly keeping him spotted till he dies, and i get exactly 0 spotting damage for it

[@tiri6379]

4:40 /sarcasm on "especially good on Graf Zeppelin" ?? Really Flolo??? Show me the other german CVs where Günther Lütjens would not perform well with his 3rd perk! ;-) /sarcasm off Thx for the nice Vid!

[@sirdancealot2645]

I think that skill is wasted as I don't think there will be another German CV in the game not to mention a proper CV line for actual free to players...

[@Deilwynna]

@@sirdancealot2645 unless they decide to add the planned follow up carriers, including the rebuilt europa cruise ship (not heavy or light cruiser, a civilian cruise ship)

[@droidmotorola3884]

@@sirdancealot2645 what do you think know? Lol

[@sirdancealot2645]

@@droidmotorola3884 Lmao never say never

[@hastdumalfeuer]

Günther Lütjens spelled in English: Gyynter Lyyteeance

[@large_fries7144]

assuming that reload is 30 seconds for kurfurst, it has a potential of 480 shells, so its *Possible* for the 120/140 MB requirement to be hit

[@niki8280]

Can they buff Mikasa dispersion? I shot an enemy BB's full broadside just 2.9km away and I missed. Luckily, he probably took pity on me and rammed me.

[@Terrathrax]

How will Gunther be gotten? Will he be in Armory? For what kind of currency?

[@artkarounos816]

I have the feeling I get a lot of overpens and shattering especially with the Yamoto 🤷🏽‍♂️ Anyone else having this feeling?

[@aquila3958]

I fell into frantic laughter after 5:40, never saw that happen with a German bb, maybe the GK

[@dragonlorddeathwing3828]

I hope we can really feel this buff. But im not sure if this will be enough. Maybe they should also buff the Sigma a bit for German BBS and the firing angel on GK and Friedrich. Will this buff also count for Tirpitz,Scharnhorst and Prinz Eitel ? Hope so :)

[@sopmodtew8399]

So,now my shiny horse is even more deadly?

[@DJRaffa1000]

"if you go into it and expect your ships to suddenly be hugely improved" .. well i found out today that the improved dispersion is on the live server .. buy devestating broadside worcesters und other cruisers at distances where i normaly get a pen and maybe some overpens ... for me it made a gigantic improvement (still can be trolly .. but its way better than before ^^)

[@edwardmonken4562]

So since there’s a glitch with the spotting ribbon in the game for a while now where if you where the last one to spot a ship and then die when that red ship is spotted again you get a ribbon does that mean that I get to come back from the grave?

[@neilious01]

Yeah what’s with CV’s being able to extinguish fires so quickly and no chance of being detonated? Those things ought to be much easier to sink

[@jackass5066]

Why would it ever be detonated when it doesn't have big guns with ammunition????

[@christianvega9425]

@@jackass5066 I mean, I hear plane fuel is kinda flammable... Also, they *do* have quite a few guns. The Midway, for example, has 18 127mm guns, quite a bit more than, say, the Sampson, which has 4 102mm guns. As far as I'm aware, the Sampson can be detonated, so your theory doesn't hold up.

[@raf74hawk12]

@@jackass5066 Bombs, fuel, ammunition for AA mounts. All of these things really don't like being shot.

[@Cajun76]

Will the dispersion buff affect the Graf Spee? I'm a filthy casual and just bought my first ship with cash.

[@Lightoffivestars]

Cajun76 it’s classified as a CA so I don’t think so. But it already has a pretty good dispersion imo

[@mazur1281]

On Odin you said about this KN fan dude that plays a lot of their BBs. I wonder what his face looked when he saw that buff notes.

[@PortalWombatYT]

His NNN was officially over in that second.

[@tonyw1983]

i'm going to need 2 of these captains... Secondary bonus? yes please. CV bonus? yes please.

[@bracketkan]

I really want to see how he works out on Z52-for the last few months I have been struggleing with Z52 amidst the meta changes

[@danielwallace9266]

I wonder what Lutjens would be like with a secondary build on a Gneisnau

[@AhmadAsyraf94]

Perhaps every 30k spotting DMG will activate the heal perk? Early game basically Z-52 will be immortal lol.

[@khurdur2939]

finally, German BB buff "cue glorious Panzelied in the backround"

[@DanielLopez-up6os]

Could We have a Graf Zeppelin Günther Lütjens vid?

[@ZaffaPlaysGames]

I'm not sure what wargaming could do about Kurfurst's gun angles. You can't really just increase their allowed angles and wave off the fact that you're shooting through your own superstructure, after all. like, i dunno, would a reload buff cut it? Even if you bump GK 406's max DPM up to be comparable with Montana, bad angles and dispersion would still make it significantly lower in practice... but you'd also need to account for the superlative survivability and secondary damage output, so, idk

[@MarkoLomovic]

Yo flamu can you do video on mods and which ones you use and why.

[@themythicalfire809]

What is needed to fix the German bb line

[@rblinson8136]

I bet he'd be great on the Scharnhorst as well as Cruisers and Destroyers. You may be able to get 100 main battery hits using that ship or Odin as well. Actually, he'd be greatest on Odin. 1/2 of the special skills plus maybe the spotting skill.

[@axelschweiss5330]

Totaly OP! This should never see the Liveserver! Way to strong

[@IcyPandaAL]

btw Günther Lütjens was the comander of Bismarck

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

This is all good news to me. I joined this game because I wanted a Bismarck, but quit the German line because their accuracy at range is so terrible. I will now start grinding towards the big boy (I quit at Bayern).

[@relhimp]

>it's out of your control Yamamoto with first blood and kraken cryies loudly

[@saltefan5925]

I'm not sure of why they decided to not nerf the rocket attack planes. They are too effective tools against just about any target IMO.

[@Zeugenschutz]

always preferred the Freddy to the Kurf, more of a traditional bb and easier to use, hybrid conceal secondary build is boss mode, very underrated ship one of my favs before the buff

[@TheLastSterling1304]

Doubtful it will ever happen, but I do wonder how would the KMBBs do if they had torpedoes?

[@TheRa2fan]

The Tirpitz, Scharnhorst and Gneisenau are abosulte treats to play. Before they introduced BBs with 10K HE salvos that is

[@TheLastSterling1304]

@@TheRa2fan True that. It's just that gnei being the only one in the mainline having torps bothered me. Wasn't in the germans that had the "regular" torpedo mounts on their BBs? I know that they have better secondaries, but that's not player controlled.

[@michaeld.uchiha9084]

The problem with Kurfürst is its H42 i believe. And the H Class never had plans for triple turrets. So no wonder the firing arcs a bad.🤷‍♂️

[@dultanur]

Does potential damage include torpedoes?

[@bigdot2355]

Finally some good german BB love!

[@Empoleonman522the2]

if this is what all of the german bbs get there is only one thing to say. *THE SHINY HORSE HUNGERS*

[@tramachi7027]

Fuck yeah...Finally Lütjens will arrive...Even tho I wouldve preferred Erich Reader but Lütjens is awesome too :D

[@nicodemus7784]

what about gneisenau and Scharnhorst?

[@dzello]

Time to bring out the Graf Zeppelin secondary build with this Commander!

[@TroaBarton]

Finally a captain that boost secondaries... Took long enough.

[@kagakai7729]

So, how do any of these perks help a tank build Kurfurst? I'm assuming Wargaming is at least aware of how few people consider secondary build even remotely viable

[@KnodsilMemeMaker]

Why does everything always have to be viable? Secondary and hybrid builds can still be a lot of fun. Although they may not be optimal, this captain will help with that playstyle

[@saturnascension]

Then they made the build more "viable". Keep playing your tank build lol,if you think secondary builds are that bad then they got better.

[@kagakai7729]

Yes, I agree that the end goal of any game is to provide fun and enjoyment. I do not believe, however, that three good games mean that I had "fun," when I get dumpstered by Smolensks in the seventeen others. No, builds do not have to be viable to be "fun," but I do not consider throwing any semblance of fire resistance into the trash can in this time and meta very "fun," either. You know how Lutjens could make secondaries more "fun?" Maybe he could do something about how secondary build leaves you with the DoT resistance of a kerosene vat. On top of all of this, I am completely out of doubloons. It's not like I could change my build even if secondaries magically became amazing overnight.

[@KnodsilMemeMaker]

@@kagakai7729 just run hybrid builds. Spec the secondaries for range, and then pour everything else into tankiness. The secondaries may not be accurate, but at least they can fire at relativly close targets. And you got the tankibility to survive under the pressure. I can realibly get between 20-40k damage with the secondaries on my GK (including the fires they set ofc) and thats just with the secondary range mod, AFT and the signal flag. Staying alive gives your secondaries more time to do work. And in the end, it all adds up

[@kagakai7729]

@@KnodsilMemeMaker ...I actually didn't consider that. Thanks-

[@RasmusDyhrFrederiksen]

Did you go with small or big main guns for this game?

[@horror11]

germans do not pronounce the "th" like in english. its pronounced like a simple t , günther is pronounced like günter

[@planetsnurfer4987]

BTW. In Günther you dont pronounce the th. Only t. And the ü in Lütjens has to be pronounce like in lynch 😉

[@Subha95]

Gk and FDG needs some change as per their secondary dispersion, torpedo protection and a little better AA cause those things are much needed for a brawler

[@christianjohnson9190]

Gunther lutjens and Bismarck are a match made in heaven Also... I think you know what I am saying and what I am asking Gunther lutjens and Bismarck battle plz

[@mikoajromaniuk8528]

how can i get that captain?

[@blueflames6961]

What was Flamu’s build for this game?

[@tree7251]

How to get this commander ?

[@tank2003ful]

Is your build the same since you did a build years ago ?

[@Jognt]

To those that think the max dispersion number says much at all: The maximum ellipse size isn't nearly as important as the distribution within that ellipse. Or in other words, the _dispersion_ within that ellipse. See what I did there? :P

[@SithLordmatthew]

140 main battery hits in a BB hehehehe yea that's super unlikely in the German line perhaps the sharn. Now I just checked a game I had 2 nights ago in my bourgogne. In that game I see I did get 137 main battery hits but to put it in perspective how rare a game that was. I did 337,505 damage in that game so yea the 140 hits is basically impossible.

[@eriktrimble8784]

it's a buff oriented to DDs, mostly. Even the cruisers will seldom have the chance to get to 140 hits. A Hindy, with all the buffs, would take 12 full salvos (of hitting every time) to get to 140, and that takes two full minutes of continue fire to get to that point. Every other KM cruiser is somewhere between 3 and 4 minutes of continous, 100% accuracy fire. Given that 50% hit rates are doing GREAT for an average, you're talking about continuous fire for almost half the max match time to get to 140 in something like a Hipper or Yorck.

[@raulalexandrubota]

@@eriktrimble8784 I'll use him on Nürnberg and it'll work great 😀🙂

[@ojassarup258]

I had 300 secondary hits with the Tirpitz just the other day

[@ghostie_21]

Hmm guess it was a good time for me to finally finish Bismarck. Now I just need the credits for FDG.

[@turambar620]

How about a new version of 10 vs 10 ona see Bot_3 in action PLS PLS PLS

[@yourmamom]

Günther Lütjens on Scharn with reworked accuracy dispersion... B O I That healing thing could also make a DD immortal if there isn't a CV... this could be clutch for late-game DDs.

[@HitBoxMaster]

Honestly, getting spotting ribbons is more in your control than getting spot damage.

[@la_potat6065]

My personal opinion on the matter. German BBs need an accuracy buff no doubt. But to tweak dispersion values to be better than what they actually should be - breaks dispersion balance. The universal rule is faster shells will have worst dispersion especially vertical than slower shells, as trade off for high initial pen and short shell travel time and the opposite happens for slower shells. A Sigma buff for the whole line from 1.8 up to 2.0 will be enough for this. High tier wise. Germany, Italians, Russian and French exceed to the 800m/s+ shell velocities. It is naturally expected for them to have worst dispersion. Meanwhile - US, British and Japanese have sub 800m/s shell velocities mainly 732m/s 762m/s 780m/s. So you are saying to me German BB shells with faster velocities will match dispersion of US and British ships, with no form of penalty for those faster shells? That rather makes slower shells and their supposedly better dispersion redundant, when you can have faster Russian and German with equal dispersion elipse. I’m sorry but this is just Russian BBs and their dispersion buffs all over again, its too much. First the Russians and now Germans. What about French and Italian battleships then, who are subjected to their large dispersion? It is powercreep that started with russian bbs. German BBs still need an accuracy buff no doubt. Soo why couldn’t they just raise the entire lines Sigma Value? I was expecting a sigma buff from 1.8 to 1.9 - hell even up to 2.0 if im feeling guilty. A sigma buff would solve many things. German BBs have a weakness with poor dispersion topped with a low amount of guns. Compare that to the French which have up to 12-16 guns, with more guns on average for the entire line. The french bb dispersion is compensated for high number of shells. A sigma buff for German BBs would be well sufficient. They will keep their poor and expected dispersion values, but a higher sigma would mean for more consistent salvoes. Other good examples are Izumo. Izumo is punished with one of the worst vertical dispersion values to date, as trade off to having the fastest 16inch shells in the whole game tied to slava. Izumo was notorious for its poor accuracy. Buut she was buffed with a 2.0 Sigma. And on top of other things made her a strong t9 bb. Non would even consider the accuracy buff too much because she still keeps her bad dispersion - but fires more consistent volleys. Albeit Izumo’s pen buff i find too much, idk how 16inch shells match republiques 17inch shells in pen by mere 1-2mm at all ranges.

[@AlabamaSoldier]

I think GK's terrible firing angles are due to the ship's physical properties themselves. The turrets are too wide and too close together to allow much range of motion, relatively speaking. So, if you're looking for WG to do something about that, don't hold your breath. Seattle has the same issue for the same reasons.

[@richardhutchings1980]

Awesome. German BBs now on par with Russian BBs?

[@VictorSanchez-bi3vq]

only say if this spotting thing works on submarines will be op, 3k health recover on sub is near their 50% health

[@Pienimusta]

You touch my tralala

[@neilbaird2789]

Spreadsheet says, being tagteamed by 2 tier 10 carriers is fun.

[@jhaller90]

gunther lutjens i think is better on the Graf zeppelin i mean..... secondaries and the air restoration :)

[@matko350]

Well now we are going somewhere but there is still a long way till there tbh (competitive german BBs). It looks kinda better but not much (just from watching) and to see that change I need to play with them to see how big diference is if there is one at all. Now they are only ships to get some fun now and then but that also goes away because they are first to go down (at least when I play with them). When I asked on miss Fem's stream (wows stream but she was host) when will WG do this thing then the answer was that German BBs would be way to op then cause secs are hell also (xD) and ... on what I laughed in comments/ chat and said goodbye. I just can't find myself playing them seriously or to build them according to that and they were part of me getting into this game. Only DDs are competitive in some scenarios. I hope it will get better but who knows.

[@rawful502]

So now that the Kurfurst has Montana dispersion while having the same speed, better armor and better secondaries, what is the point of the Montana?

[@DarkxOver]

maybe concealment, no horrible fireing arcs and earlier plunging ap? not to mention sigma and aa

[@madmoff]

Montana has better sigma and long-range accuracy? Not to mention that if you go legendary module for the Großer Kurfürst, your range is brought down to a mere 19 km, while the Montana has a 23+ kilometer range. The Montana also isn't hampered by the German's abysmal HE alpha.

[@rawful502]

kein ding yo bot.de That is true but the Shell velocity is also the slowest of all bbs and it has 10k less hp. AA is not much better than the GK although the GK AA isn’t good. Firing arcs are good but there are other bbs that have good firing arcs that are way better (Kremlin and Conqueror).

[@rawful502]

kein ding yo bot.de The sigma is good but not enough to justify everything else imo

[@rawful502]

Mad Moff Good luck with that long range accuracy with the abysmal velocity

[@williamwiese9963]

Looks like there's hope for the Freddie yet. Prost

[@TwoCraZyEyes0]

Maybe I'll finally play Bismarck now

[@Pt_Lacky]

Might grind them now

[@Firefocus-fz2we]

6:09 quite dense AA fire :)

[@BladeValant546]

What is funny, ships IRL rarely didnt broadside.

[@frankvc5899]

Cross the T is not a good strategy right? That's why it turned out so good vs Fuso and Yamashiro at Leyte right? Ships wanted to show full side because that means all barrels on target Plus, the belt armor is there for a reason

[@tramachi7027]

Hearing Günther Lütjens name being butchered so brutally I wanna die now made me feel abit uneasy

[@noob_is_carrying411]

Gunfer lutjens 😂😂 sry Flamu but this is so funny as a german

[@tramachi7027]

Hm, that Improved PM, makes me thinking... -45% instead of 30. Ofcourse WG

[@colmcorbec7031]

Will buff the secondary armament as well

[@jarrusjenkins]

only -45% on the rudder... ;)

[@rakgitarmen]

This was mildy infuriating but cause you keep exiting the zoom view after each shot.

[@anthonyconstantine3250]

Good man!

[@runeh3022]

I still can't help but feel that the german BB guns should have worked more like the russian BB guns, but not so extreme. I fear we will see even more german BB's on the 1 or 10 line now, thinking they can do an amazing job as snipers, instead of being the line-breakers they are supposed to be. :-/ But, maybe if they later get around to improving secondary guns a bit, it will balance out.

[@Beregon871]

Damn flamu, such a shame you zoom away from a lot of good hits just before your shells land, especially if you're wanting to show off dispersion :(

[@shayden4296]

Great, improved plane restoration for graf zeppelin so your enemies can shoot down even more of your worthless helpless planes. If only they buffed those damned dive bombers so that they could actually hit something , or hire new pilots for them (ones that are not cross-eyed preferably) that would be great.

[@KentuckyAk101guy]

That mushashi got deleted

[@wogelson]

Please say GK more often I like how you say that✌️

[@DirectorBird]

He says these names so well.

[@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ]

Love the North Carolina that decides to rush two FDGs and a Kremlin, while being fired on from a third FDG at mid-range.