Flash Carts for the Nintendo Switch are Here // MIG-Switch Review

[@TakiUdon]

Be gentle Nintendo ninjas. *Subscribe to help fight ninjas.*

[@thesuperzfamilyvlog6607]

Wishful hoping! Great as always!

[@Bilal.Hussain.Shaikh]

Indeed 👍🏿👍🏻

[@mortysmith2192]

Unlikely given how they violate you with emulation

[@Mephelis11]

They won't

[@Micchi-]

It's joever for you

[@sneezy2day636]

If purchase isn’t ownership then piracy can’t be theft

[@spacemansquid]

How your comment isn't higher rated is a testament to how few people can actually critically think.

[@Justinicus24]

True but Nintendo could care less

[@VibhorSen1993]

Well they sued yuzu for the same !

[@burger3301]

And will probably fail that lawsuit

[@sandwichmaker9000]

@@Justinicus24 if they could care less then they obviously care a lot

[@lamarmota4344]

And just like that, taki udon's body was found in a river in Japan

[@lilalj07]

🫢

[@TakiUdon]

RIP

[@bryanjs4785]

F

[@ryulanda9399]

Don't give them ideas. 😂

[@utodbz]

F

[@Kriskirby1992]

I can't believe an r4 dsi cartridge I found at a Mexican flea market 7 years ago was what would eventually bring me to this video years later

[@psychoapplesauceeater8562]

Wdym

[@Ivanmaradonaaa]

jajajaja same here

[@the1JM]

The way the world works is beautiful ain’t it?

[@thenerd98__37]

Right ? I remember my father buying me a r4 for the dsi man endless games to play 😂

[@saladbetch8235]

lol same 😂 i was researching flash cart and modded rom when i was thinking of buying a Dsi LL with an r4 😂 funny how youtube still recommend me a switch flash card years later after i bought my dsi

[@FoxyDrew]

I love how he laid a few extra Switch Cartridges out at the top of the frame lol "Nintendo look I swear I buy your games please don't sue me"

[@huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn]

that wont stop the poison needle of those nintendo ninjas

[@whohan779]

Probably the only ones he actually had if he "needed to import them". In any case this is far less obvious than playing Mario Kart 8 on the Steam Deck which has also been done on .

[@Naplingbat]

Man it boggles my mind that people still support nintendo so rabidly. They're worse than EA

[@justadummy8076]

@@Naplingbatthey’re worse than EA, but in other ways they’re also better, like how their games are (usually) released at a very high quality & polish (with the exception of Pokémon)

[@jacks559]

​@@justadummy8076to be fair, Pokémon is developed by game freak and not Nintendo. Nintendo definitely should be giving them a good kick though, I'm not sure how Nintendo isn't embarrassed by their quality

[@KarimJovian]

Reminds me of the SKY 3DS+ took an SD card and had a ton of 3DS games and played normally

[@Beanzops]

I modded my 3DS so i can play any game i want 😂

[@1.............................]

@@Beanzopsyou are not gonna blow up my guy

[@Beanzops]

@1............................. I already have bro 💀

[@gusonian8637]

@@Beanzopsdude just make good content don’t advertise in YT comments…

[@Beanzops]

@@blastingoff how do I steal content?

[@michelefiordispina9990]

The chip labels are scratched off to avoid being identified by whoever sold that FPGA. This happened as well during the chip shortage; you would do that to prevent a ban from the supplier's website. 3:08

[@UBvtuber]

Manufacturers having to go through autistic levels of hiding their tracks in order to avoid the wrath of Nintendo..... and people STILL buy stuff from this company. It's actually insane lol

[@iamsampeters]

Was going to say.

[@TurboV8boi]

That makes sense.

[@hanfo420]

That is a possibility but not the only one. Since this is new tech and a prototype, it could very well be that the card manufacturer scratched this off.

[@JeronimoStilton14]

@@hanfo420 In your mind, someone who paid a manufacturer to make them a board, doesnt know what the components they asked for are? If by manufacturer you mean the people who are selling the product, that would be the same people the other's are referring to.

[@zaratiel_]

This could've been the only time were someone could've made the intro "everything I show is to inform people, everything you do is not up to me" this was really a good video, really interesting

[@abdulhamza172]

Crazy that this tiny piece will have a major impact on the market

[@Martin4000.sweden]

i feel like it's coming out at a perfect time, right before the new console, makes it feel... less unethical lol.

[@gangsterghost6943]

​@@Martin4000.swedenwhat new console?

[@superkind333]

​@@gangsterghost6943The Switch 2, will most certainly release in 2024

[@daddykarlmarx6183]

​@@gangsterghost6943switch 2 rumors are everywhere, idk how you even ended up on this video without hearing about it, it hasn't been confirmed officially but the switch is so old they pretty much have to announce something this year, is guess itd come out by March 2025 at the latest

[@Bluepheonix420]

​@@superkind333 No it won't quit spreading lies.

[@JonasC22]

I'll never forget obtaining my first R4i card by accident. I bought small lot of 10 or so random boxless DS games, and there was this one label-less one that had a micro SD card in it, and I understood what it was instantly. It opened my world to them. It turned my DS from a near useless thing(unless I spent tons of money) into an AWESOME console. I still keep my DS next to my bed with like 800 games.

[@liquidfiretibby]

my dsi lives in my glove box with a r4i and NES, GB/A/C emulators

[@nintendomario007]

Used to love playing like 12 different games on my R4, but the hinge on both my DS and DS Lite broke.

[@SicketMog]

I have yet to play a single DS game (yes really; just never got into the console) but have one in my attic and just recently found out about R4 cards. Anbernic consoles are nice but the touch screen makes me think I should get a card and try the original console out.

[@DizzyAndHigh]

R4i, TT, dam I feel old

[@TehOneTrewIdjut]

@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist5just putting it out there in random spaces? Haha

[@dahuchsi]

"How do I play Mario Oddysey?" "Oh, it's the 246th game, you just have to put the cartridge in and out (when you see that little green light) 245 times!"

[@radry100]

Or just use several SD-cards...

[@warbossgegguz679]

I imagine hardware revisions will happen, or at least some competitors will spring up that either have or encourage QoL fixes. At the moment though, strong start.

[@psylencecy]

​@@radry100 dude, thats gonna drive up the cost insanely high

[@deadsouI]

a 64 gb sd card costs 5€

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@deadsouIThe bigger issue is that switch games aren't 3DS/Vita games, so even huge SD cards would fill up pretty fast. Mine is 1/2 a TB and I still occasionally have to delete stuff.

[@GamerFromJump]

I’d love this to let my niece and nephews use my collection without having to loan out my personal cartridges. However I think I’ll wait for a version that doesn’t require insertion cycle to do it.

[@oasisbeyond]

And to be a less cheap Uncle.

[@GamerFromJump]

@@oasisbeyond - Dude; wth? As it is, I already changed the primary so the digital games are available, and the kids are allowed to borrow one title each at a time. Something like this would just make the whole physical library available too.

[@warisa.3681]

@@GamerFromJump don’t mind him, he’s an undercover Nintendo employee

[@stephanwassenaar]

Insertion cycle is the worst of the mig switch right now

[@mozzeralleh]

​@@oasisbeyondyou can't fool me, NINTENDO NINJA!

[@4Clubs]

I love purchasing physical media and the idea of just being able to store my collection on an SD card is so convenient. It's the best of both worlds, having the peace of mind of physical media ownership with the convenience of digital media access.

[@ezg8448]

Agreed, physical copies should also include digital versions as well. But of course they like to punish legit buyers as much as pirates.

[@TonyTyga90]

Really? As a physical game collector, Taki’s disclosure scares the crap out of me. Buying a physical copy of a rare game from a 2nd hand seller (GameStop, pawnshop, used game store, every retro convention) and having my NSO account banded bc I unknowingly bought an already dumped ROM is not good. Heck the reseller might not even know that the ROM was dumped. This is a clever way to push customers to adopt all digital or justify DRM. Now customers will not trust physical media and buy physical, wanting to protect their purchases. Games aren’t cheap now. $70 and a 50/50 chance of not being able to use my NSO account which will be on Switch 2. No Bueno!

[@4Clubs]

@@kadupse You're 100% correct, brother. But I just prefer to own something rather than the "idea" of something, if that makes sense. It's nice to be able to simply share stuff with friends and family.

[@arcangeld]

THIS! Seeing as how many game companies Nintendo included who will stop support for digital copies when it's not convenient for them even when the hardware is still perfectly capable and people are still playing on older systems. Buying physical media is the only way that we can still own what we purchase. But it is inconvenient to carry many cards around. This is a perfect middle ground.

[@Andystuff800]

Note that Switch carts aren't as permanent as you may think. If you don't use them for a long time (ie don't power up the storage) they can stop working. The Wii U onboard memory has the same issue.

[@TheFrantic5]

I have no doubt that at least one person at Nintendo would think that the collateral damage from the second-hand market for banning same game IDs would be seen as a bonus.

[@bradley3549]

This 100%. I'd be very cautious about using any games I've backed up on more than one console simultaneously. Even though this is one of the super obvious benefits to a multi-switch household...

[@HalcyonSunset]

Outside of piracy, I'm sure Nintendo is dreading this just for the reason brought up, that tons of legitimate customers might get sniped by the security systems Nintendo has in place because of second hand scammers selling or returning the carts they just bought and dumped. Depending on how bad this gets they might have to rethink security handshakes on the switch

[@chainingten3819]

Cats out of the bag tho. Like every switch on the market rn can use this, so even if they push an update, millions of switches (like mine) will just have auto update disabled to keep stufff like this as an option.....

[@HalcyonSunset]

@@chainingten3819 oh no, I mean Nintendo might have to rethink handshakes in general, as in they might have to allow multiple cloned game IDs on the service or else risk banning a bunch of legit users that will be livid. I'm not sure what else they could do if it actually starts snow balling with the second hand market

[@nickpiovesan4361]

I think the scope of this issue would be proportional to the percentage of physical cartridge players in that market

[@Jackofdiamonds-l6x]

Or vendors stop allowing returns on switch games, the used market totally dries up and Nintendo starts selling even more new games. Is that not within the realm of possibility?

[@jimhalpert0]

@@HalcyonSunsetif this is allowed people with pirated games will be able to go online lol. Nintendo is in a sticky situation. They don't wanna face angry customers but they also don't want pirates.

[@kytechnelson]

This sounds very similar to the story with 3DS flash carts before they became essentially obsolete, particularly with the role of the unique identifier data and how it is very likly to be involved in online functionality. With 3DS cart dumping, it's known that dumping and reusing that header data when playing online could easily result in bans, so I think you were spot-on when it comes to the concerns. Considering how the Switch OS is built off of the 3DS's OS, it makes a lot of sense.

[@mikeyjohnson5888]

You could already dump keys and play the games online in an emulator, though obviously there was always a risk of ban. As long as your not sharing keys or using shared keys, youre likely to be fine. YMMV.

[@ChaoticMeatballTV]

Didn't expect to see a flash cart finally come to the Switch but this is fantastic to see.

[@DrWackySanchez]

I always figured it was a matter of when, never if

[@Leak-ec5gb]

5 years to late

[@thaiboypsp3000]

@@Leak-ec5gbtoo late? Brother Switch is still getting games? 😂

[@slappymcphee]

Just emulate with another handheld and call it a day rather than possible screw someone else in the process as Taki has pointed out.

[@IamNotaRealAmerican]

back when I was working the nightshift back in 2018, we use to play on a hacked switch. Had all the games of the time on it (atleast the ones that mattered). Was tempted back then on getting one. I'm assuming they fixed it by now if a card like this is coming out? All I remember is couldn't go online when it was bootloaded or something like that but with a reboot would go back into stock and work like a normal switch.

[@terenarosa4790]

I love that idea of putting all your games on one cartridge and not having to constantly switch them out! If only we could just own the digital copy automatically when we purchase the physical. 😫😞😒

[@snowe..]

yeah if nintendo had just made that the default instead of being greedy I wouldn't even be considering this product at all. As it is, my wife and I both think it's a much better idea in the long run to own the physical carts so that's pretty much all we buy unless it's digital only. Then it's a freaking nightmare worrying about carts when traveling.

[@ForumcoldiArchon]

Wouldnt even be hard to make as you already get 1 time goldpoints in a similar way. But most people would abuse it.. like buying and then returning or selling it used right away after claiming the digital copy. What they could have implamented is like a temporary digital version.. like make you insert the cartridge every week/month to be able to play that digital copy

[@sheptech]

ANd what stops the people to abuse the hell out of it? How to authenticate the copy? You get the digital version and after that? You dont need the card anymore. Even so, just one person buys the cartridge and sells it afterwards then no one needs to buy it.

[@MikMok]

​@@ForumcoldiArchonthat's actually a really good idea

[@Razumen]

@@sheptech Digital copy could be linked to the physical one. If you sell the cartridge, someone could register that, and then you'd lost access to the digital copy.

[@JonathanHolt1988]

It'd be neat to do a simple mod that connects a switch, either an on-off switch or a momentary switch, to whatever pin/pins tell the switch there is a cart inserted so you can simulate taking the cart out without having to physically remove it and potentially wear out the spring mechanic.

[@lee1130fromtwitter]

Probably the switch console has a sensor on the physical eject mechanisms and you have to or it wont think a. New game is in?

[@donciutino7490]

​@@lee1130fromtwitternot true, there is a cartdridge swapper that does it

[@raurutheredmage]

The cartridge slot is cheap and easy to replace if it fails.

[@MrWill7980]

I saw somewhere the developer was asked about a button or switch in a future revision and they said that the button/switch would be too small to be robust enough for use. They also said that the average user wouldn't be changing games often enough to put enough to damage the game slot. That makes sense because you're already doing the same when you change physical games.

[@fraggle200]

I saw that the Unitek gamecard reader works with this, in another video. you can just use the remote for it to switch between the mig switch and another cart and each time you go back to the mig switch it's a different game.

[@danielcalabrese5769]

This is perfect for someone like me who only plays single player games on my switch, the fact that Nintendo games are always so expensive even years after releasing is the reason this new cartridge is great and something that I will definitely use once it has been refined. I can't wait to be able to get a ton of Nintendo games that I otherwise would never have played.

[@timtation5837]

As long as the unique id/serial is required, it’s not conducive to piracy nor used games. This isn’t going to hurt Nintendo, BUT this is going to hurt GameStop’s used game market… If buying a used game or a pirated game (and not being in airplane mode) means you brick your switch, gamers are not going to buy either. I do like the ability to back up your games and consolidate them onto a single cartridge, but that reinsert the same cartridge to change games is kinda jenky… Now might be a good time to short GameStop stock. I always thought that Nintendo should have given us the option to load any cartridge onto the switch so it doesn’t need to be inserted again (just like the soft copy games we buy from Nintendo). I guess this is the next best thing, but again… It’s fine for Nintendo, but a very bad thing for the used game market. I suspect some innocent kids are going to get their Switches bricked because they bought a used game…. And that sucks.

[@bhuvangunessee]

And the Nintendo games being so expensive is the reason why there is a used market, I've always bought used Nintendo games directly from people. This harms that. Sure you'll be playing more games you wouldn't have played but you'll be pirating then, this endangers the person to person used games sales more than used games sold in retail IMO. I am anti piracy, so the day I buy a used cartridge and my console gets banned and I can show I have the real physical thing and they don't unban or are slow about it, I'm never buying anything Nintendo again, not even new.

[@danielcalabrese5769]

@@bhuvangunessee that's why I have multiple consoles and use the switch for single player offline stuff especially considering how terrible their online experience is, I regretted paying for a full year of their top subscription and since that ran out I haven't bothered subscribing again, I guess for me personally it comes down to the fact that I don't play many Nintendo exclusives but only got a switch for all the metroidvanias that are on pc and switch only, I got sick of looking up a nice looking metroidvania and finding out it wasn't on xbox or ps so I finally bit the bullet and got a switch I collects dust most of the time but I do have about 90 games on it so I'll use it eventually

[@inktendo]

This takes me back to the days of the Sky3DS Flashcard for the Nintendo 3DS... It only had one button to cycle trough your games on the SD Card, but eventually they released a version that allowed you to go back and forth between games. Good old times

[@warbossgegguz679]

Hopefully MIG doesn't follow in the footsteps of Xecuter and start extorting customers and bricking systems.

[@lunlunnnnn]

​@@warbossgegguz679there's a good chance that this is xecuter who made this. the website of mig switch used to be hosted on the same server as garyopa's website (the guy from xecuter who was arrested a few years back)

[@jonathantillian6528]

@@warbossgegguz679 There's a lot of evidence that shows MIG _is_ Xecuter, look up Modern Vintage Gamer's video about the topic.

[@realderyn]

@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist5 Sir this is a channel about gaming handhelds

[@wavedotwav]

@@warbossgegguz679 theres a theory that MIG is just xecuter under an alias. wouldn't be the first time they did it EDIT: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2TXpaJ6bayMgKc

[@TheDanaAddams]

Everyone is focussed so heavily on the prospect of using it for backups, but the Switch homebrew scene is really quite good! Using it to launch homebrew on an unmodified Switch is far more interesting a prospect to me, but it's a question nobody seems to have an answer for.

[@Klldarkness6008]

Oh boy, you've got no idea! We've got groups investigating the possibility of using these, plus a legit game dump(But modified!), to cause the errors needed to drop into RCM mode on patched Switches. These have opened up so many new possibilities. Imagine Softmod CFM on the Switch Oled! It worked surprisingly well on the PS4, once the USB Update errors were found, so we're hopeful a workaround will be found here as well. I also know a group that is looking into coding a game launcher for switch roms that will run on the MIGSwitch, so you can load into it, and then load any rom/dump of your choosing. It's going to be a really interesting year for the Switch, especially if the Switch 2 is as backwards compatible as expected. It might be an instant Jailbreak once again.

[@fishermanSaleh]

What’s homebrew?

[@TheDanaAddams]

@@fishermanSaleh Community developed third party software.

[@tonywestenra9523]

Prob because u can't mod a v2

[@TheDanaAddams]

@@tonywestenra9523 Which is precisely why being able to run homebrew through this cartridge would be a game changer.

[@ophiliaxeon]

Nintendo lawyers about to get that 3am phone call

[@denniss4951]

totally blown away that they haven't cracked down on any sellers for this device, not that I want anyone to get into legal trouble. I guess one could possibly argue that it needs all those valid files to run a game and doesn't ship with any software at all but that's not really going to float in the states.

[@kellyd1910]

​@denniss4951 might switch is developed in Russia. Nintendo have absolutely no authority there and they wouldn't dear if they know what's good them.

[@JF-vz1ju]

​@@kellyd1910Good. Fuck em. I want to see what this thing can do as they improve and iterate on it.

[@ZoruaHunter]

Who flags videos at 3 in the morning?

[@kurisu3000]

@@ZoruaHunter People in different time zones

[@SupraViperhead]

We've reached an age where a lot of Developers opt to release their games solely as software and don't do physical releases, the issue there is that once those games get pulled, you can never buy them again. With an option like this, we are able to obtain those Digital-Only games, even after they've been removed from the server, and access them.

[@MegaManNeo]

Indeed but that requires you to have a modified Switch beforehand or to sail the seven seas.

[@SupraViperhead]

@@MegaManNeo Come sail away!

[@BluecoreG]

Playing a digital only game on a cartridge? Brilliant idea.

[@Jenkins87]

@@BluecoreG except it doesn't work like that because the file types and folder structure are completely different for digital games vs physical. This is a universal thing for internet enabled consoles. The digital versions are completely different and the way they're stored and installed are also different. It would never work this way

[@sabsare]

I'm feeling like the current console generation is the last one that going to use physical releases as method of distribution overall, so meh.

[@Synthetic-Chicken]

Reminds me of the early playstation modding, the whole inserting and ejecting to make it select the next game was similar to pushing the button on the PS1 to trick the console into thinking the lid was closed and a game had been placed. As good as technology gets, humans always figure out ways to tinker with it, extremely fascinating.

[@KyriosHeptagrammaton]

You ever hear how the Wii was initially cracked? It turned out Epona's name in Twilight Princess didn't have a character limit and people were able to write code into it. Crazy the stuff that happens.

[@getintheoven]

dude your name is killing me

[@mikeyjohnson5888]

Whats crazy is disc swapping was a vulnerability in game consoles for years.

[@clay2889]

We all knew this was coming eventually, I just didn't expect it to take this long. Very interested to see how Nintendo handles this.

[@RedcubeYT]

lawsuits and a lot of them against everyone who was involved and a few people that weren't but they still felt like sueing them

[@taliacheng5006]

I hope Nintendo actually makes their online service worth it to fight off piracy… Tbh I don’t see the loss of having a banned switch except maybe DLC

[@marcogenovesi8570]

probably with excessive violence

[@huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn]

they are probably too busy suing palworld right now, perfect timing@@RedcubeYT

[@Yakiniq-n7o]

Probably needed to wait til Switch was reaching end of support so Nintendo wouldnt all out come after them

[@StuShipp]

Thank you for clarifying all the details of why people are so concerned about this flashcart. I kept seeing on Twitter that people were freaking tf out and I couldn't understand why. Now that I know it's because the unique identifiers for the original cartridge is ALSO copied onto the Mig Switch, I can see why there's growing concern. If I were a smart person, I just wouldn't take my gameplay online. And if I were to want to play a game for exclusive online gameplay, I'd buy new. Thanks for all the info... great vid, and very informative!

[@HankHillPropaneAccessories]

Most normal people are not uploaders of games tho

[@Roccondil]

Needing to update your game is one of several reasons why one would want to have online accessibility. There's also not being able to download DLC, or the full digital games you've legally purchased.

[@shinyrayquaza9]

yeah website says you need all the legit files for online, sadly this is just as risky as modded console for online :(

[@100100toxic]

​@@shinyrayquaza9what if you buy the dumper that they sale and rent games or buy, save, return back for money, for the games files

[@richardtillman9705]

@@RoccondilMy best guess is to use the Switch’s built-in feature of matching a game’s version locally with a friend or another updated Switch, but that isn’t always accessible.

[@pastubbs]

FYI, they remove the markings on the chip not so the end user won't know what it is or does but rather to prevent, say, Nintendo from finding out who the chip manufacturer is and going after the supplier of the chip itself.

[@pipeisreal]

pretty sure if twitter users can figure out who made this thing (its team xecutor, the same people who made the SX core modchip as well as the group gary bowser was part of), nintendo would also know too

[@oscarshedwick4862]

​@pipeisreal it's no real secret but you can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law

[@halozidia]

I don't think there would be legal grounds for pusuing an SOC manufacuter for selling non-custom, multipurpose FPGAs. It's like saying a knife company unbranded their knife because someone used it to murder someone and they as a company could be prosecuted lol. It's only to delay cheaper Chinese clones from releasing to market.

[@denniss4951]

they only do that to attempt to thwart cloning, nothing more than that.

[@radry100]

They can x-ray the chip and see what it does. Most manufacturers also place their name or logo on the inside. This is so that competitors without expensive x-ray machine can't copy their product easily.

[@joeym6730]

I had an R4 cart for my 3DS. I liked it for viewing mp4s and to listen to mp3s. I would love to be able to do that on my Switch.

[@VisionizeTech]

True I had movies on it for car rides lol

[@RubyDoobieScoo]

right, that's what you used it for 😉

[@AnimaJumper]

The constant eject and reinject could easily wear out the card slot. It's probably better to wait for Gen 2 or a clone that has a Button to Switch Games

[@DarkLink1996.]

You're only switching as often as you with real cartridges

[@Viirax]

@@DarkLink1996. Not even close. Say you have 10 games on this and you want to play the 10th game on the list, you now need to insert the cartridge 10 times instead of the 1 needed to just use the real one.

[@DarkLink1996.]

@@Viirax I didn't think of that

[@jaredtrout7861]

Just don't load 10

[@christianb8900]

But when he inserted/ejected, he was building a list of thumbnails. Can't you just load the games on first, then keep the mig in, then just use the d-pad to select the game you want?@@Viirax

[@RaphaelClancy]

If anything is going to push Nintendo to release the Switch 2, this is it.

[@_paczki]

When people start dumping used games that's when they are truly screwed.

[@ember9361]

@@_paczki oh, poor nintendo :3c

[@kayaking555]

this thing need at least wait until nintendo 2 have arrived 😁

[@Macs]

Well switch 2 is supposed to be compatible with this gen, so this could potentially work also on the switch 2.

[@RaphaelClancy]

@@Macs I could see something like this pushing switch 2 towards being a download only device. Or, if they feel like they have to have physical media they might go the PS5 route and make the unit that can read carts more expensive.

[@DarkHorseParatrooper]

It's funny cause if you look in the back of the booklets of all the old games, including Nintendos, it tells you you're allowed to make a personal backup copy of your game just in case.

[@KawaiiCat2]

Intresting. They probably meant that you can back up the game because you’re on it and already paid for it, if you lose the cartridge and still have the game. However, it’s not a back up to copy and sell the cartridge.

[@Jaezon]

No, they didn't. Video game publishers have never included notes in game booklets advising customers to backup games.

[@Vanit1]

I think you're confusing game data with save data. A lot of the old games would remind you to use memory cards on PSX etc on the back of the case.

[@Jaezon]

This is simply not true.

[@noth606]

Legally you're allowed to back up your game, and use the back up instead of the original media, at least in the EU. This has already been tested through the courts years ago. You're not allowed to back up, sell it, and keep using the backup copy. However, there are some problems with the verification practically, but it comes down to being able to show the physical original game cart of whatever you run a backup copy of. Online download purchases are a separate thing and easy in that they are tied to your account, so it doesn't matter how many copies of the files you have, so long as you have it on your account as a purchase.

[@glitchy_weasel]

This has a lot of potential - both for convenience and, of course, piracy. An idea would be to include a little Bluetooth module inside the MiG that connects to a phone app to switch games, or build some switches on the back of the card to input a number that corresponds to a game.

[@escapetherace1943]

switches or a little button up top that cycles through separate leds to show which title would be the way to go

[@artexjay]

convince what?

[@escapetherace1943]

@@artexjay he clearly meant to say convenience.

[@AJ-xc4nm]

You could never connect your console to the internet if you were using it for piracy though without getting banned.

[@warbossgegguz679]

I men, I have a beefy enough rig to run basically anything on Ryujinx and Yuzu, but I hope this sort of thing can be used to crack the switch wide-open a la the 3DS and Wii. And the first step is always getting software interacting with something it shouldn't. So I'm sure there are aspects of direct cartridge access that differ from just loading stuff directly off an SD card or external drive.

[@Azrael-xl3jl]

This cart has a lot of impact on Nintendo. Since the Switch 2 will probably be backwards compatible with switch 1 carts the MIG might even delay it's release since there's a good possibility it will work on that too forcing Nintendo to come up with counter measures and redesign the Switch 2.

[@HUYI1]

it will just show how desperate the really are, we all know how infamous they are with the whack a mole cat and mouse game on 3DS dsi XL even on decades old hardware which is pretty sad and desprate in my opinion

[@Memorywholed]

There will never be a switch 2. The switch is still selling shockingly well, and if that ever changes, there will have been enough advancements in hardware to create something new.

[@adamarndt7617]

They already have counter-measures that would prevent game piracy via these methods. No update is required for the current switch, nor the switch 2. The crypto keys are tied to the individual cartridge ID and if two cartridge IDs are inserted into two internet-connected Switches at the same time, both get the ban hammer. Nintendo WILL probably have to come up with a process to UNBAN a Switch, if someone buys a used game that someone else created a copy of and someone gets their switched banned due to no fault of their own, though..

[@drem_psb]

Exactly my thought. Well, it's the same old situation that tracks back to PS2 era: if you'd took on latest tech gimmicks and industry's standards, be sure sooner or later it will be probed, abused and exploited against your market position. In case of Switch, frankly, this SD thing came a way later, one could say. In worst case scenario, N would go too far and drop hardware compactibility with Switch for its expected successor, only supporting a limited digital backlog of Switch games. I'm also not happy with perspectives of bootlegs on NS cartridge market. Time to get the most wanted Switch titles for my shelves, before collecting them become so complicated. Gladly, for me there aren't that many games that are deserved to be on them.

[@chainingten3819]

Honestly I hope yuzu develops an easier and faster installation process on devices like the steam deck and asus ROG ally. That way nintendo will have no choice but to lower physical (and digital) game prices.....

[@TheNumbersPerson]

As someone who has an obsession with keeping physical media, but also wanting to not swap cards constantly, I love this. I hope a nice easy way to back up my cartridges comes around so I can just have one card to play all my party games without fighting swapping cards.

[@MagicBrownMan]

but this forces you to eject and reinsert to change game, and depending on how many game you have on one of these you could be there for a while, at which point switching the cartridge might have been the less hassle way of playing that game. As stated in the video the cartridge dumper is the most interesting part of this irritation. A v2 with a different mechanism to change games might be better for the use case your suggesting.

[@TheFakeBenWalker]

there is a switch cartridge dumper coming out by the same company, you can buy them in a bundle

[@alegomanYTPs]

One of the most laziest things I've heard in my life, you can't be bothered to use your hands to pull a cart out and put another one in, omega lul!

[@billybobthorton2026]

@@MagicBrownMan exactly, this doesn't in any way save your physical card slot from degradation, it actually harms it more. The only reason to do this is to save your self 20 seconds of pulling the cart from it's game case and placing the previous cart back in its case. This will degrade the cart slot faster than just switching carts.

[@jamesjdh6787]

agreed, I'm looking forward to getting all those digital only titles that I put off buying, at least I can now own them for real.

[@Dragon_Slayer_Ornstein]

There's no way Nintendo are going to ban people for this unless the UID is from the wrong game. Imagine all the oblivious people who get caught in this because they bought a game from eBay.

[@bbletsplays1130]

Nintendo will just say it's now the risk of buying used games, but for the most secure experience, buy digital only.

[@luobomu9747]

Nintendo has no business relationship with or obligations to second-hand owners. Buying from a private person is a risk no matter the type of product, as you don't know how it's been used, or should I say misused.

[@awesomeferret]

Never say never,especially with Nintendo. Remember, at one time it was the reasonable position to assume that Nintendo replacing the Wii U with a Linux gaming tablet would be a failure. There was truly more reason to assume that the Switch would fail, and look at it now. Reality doesn't have the same relationship with Nintendo that other companies have, so I wouldn't put that past them.

[@asteria9963]

When it comes to Nintendo, always expect the worst. They will do it.

[@kytechnelson]

Will be interesting to see if they do keep track of which UID goes to what game. They didn't match UIDs to games for the 3DS game carts, so we'll have to see if Nintendo changed that or not. Probably just a matter of time until someone finds out the hard way.

[@sceerane8662]

I'd be excited to hear about what kind of homebrew possibilities arise from devices like this. If Retroarch worked on it for example, That alone might justify the purchase for anyone with an unhackable switch that can't afford/can't solder a modchip.

[@dolan-duk]

Or if this becomes a vector for creating a custom "game" that allows softmodding of the Switch without having to solder anything.

[@moth.monster]

It can only play signed Switch games, so no, it will never be able to play homebrew. It's a piracy device and nothing more. There's no reason to bother buying one.

[@648]

@@moth.monster Heyyyy, looks like someone didn't watch the video!

[@pipeisreal]

@@dolan-dukspeaking as someone who has experience in the switch hacking field, the avenue of a custom “game” has been widely explored already and any possibilities have already been exhausted. this flashcart requires a valid, signed dump of games, because it doesn’t just remove the signature checks from the gamecart reader. in fact, nintendo could patch this out entirely very easily if they choose to, so there’s a possibility this flashcart may not even work in the future

[@Sin_City_Assassin]

Developer says it’s not built to do that and what little they’ve said it’s basically incapable of anything besides copying licenses

[@Sub_Dude]

Thanks for putting the implications of this on the ecosystem up front. I really appreciated your approach and analysis of the possible outcomes now that this will be available... Good job!

[@TakiUdon]

My pleasure!

[@warbossgegguz679]

I appreciate the lack of pretending this scene is "totally wholesome 100 homebrew devs", while at the same time still watching your words carefully. Like, not expecting a soapbox rant about ethics or for everyone to have the balls that Wulfden had talking about the 3DS, but it's just nice to not see someone act so fake about it. I remember watching Tech Rules' video on the 3DS and finding it super cringy how he talked about it like the majority of hackers/modder aren't interested in things beyond homebrew, and that's just "a biproduct". The vast majority of people I know in the hacking scene are not remotely homebrew devs (unless they're porting emulators) so it just seemed like overkill. That or he is in *the single lamest hacking scene imaginable,* lol.

[@jefflum4040]

I’m super interested in the dumper. I’m not too stressed about getting roms for retro consoles, but I usually don’t mess with that kind of stuff with current gen consoles, just because of how sketchy it all is. Dumping my own games without having to hack my switch would be such a time saver

[@bohenian]

Same. I want a dumper so I can try playing using my steam deck.

[@ranninotfromeldenring2832]

rainworld player spotted

[@Rob-z7k]

The new R36s has actual arcade Roms such as NARC, MS Pac Man, arcade Spiderman..Punch Out!

[@leos8813]

Do they make a dumper, too?

[@jefflum4040]

@Qiyokuu Did you not read what I said?

[@Hartie95]

If their claims are correct this also has the ability to go online while using your own backups over just installing stuff in cfw. It also has the advantage of allowing piracy without emunand, as long as the user stays offline during play of Roms. Both of those make it a good companion for homebrew only syscfw online setups like I'm using for years by now. Through some phone companion app and Bluetooth could have been nice for the game selection with bigger collections.

[@Punmaster9001]

Thanks for covering this, I've been getting ads on Instagram about this product and was questioning the validity of it. The use case you mentioned would be pretty much what I would want it for, a big library of games I don't want to risk getting stolen. After how many years the Switch has been out, and the games I've collected in that time, it's easily a few thousand $ worth of games that I can't replace.

[@arzfan29]

If they were stolen insurance would pay you back and you could buy them all again

[@Punmaster9001]

@@arzfan29 🤣

[@zankaa8031]

@@arzfan29 .... If they pay for insurance on their switch games lol. Which they probably don't, who does that

[@KevinAdams06]

I check out a lot of games from libraries. This really worries me that a borrowed cartridge will get me banned.

[@someguy4096]

Yeah this was the biggest takeaway from the video for me. I never even considered it.

[@cj90123]

yep, this kinda kills the entire second hand market imo. i think i'll still be able to sell my games if theres people out there still interested. but from a buyers perspective, no way i'm ever trusting a used cartridge ever again.

[@livinlicious]

@@cj90123You cant even trust a new cartridge, because people can buy the card, open it, return it for a full refund. Just buy for dumping. This will be quickly banned from stores once they know that dumping exists (like they did with CD games), but for a while it will be rampant. I dont really see the point here anyway. Since the dump is equally worthless and gets you banned. So just play offline. The dumper gets nothing out of stealing the IDs. And it only hurts the legit buyer. Both get banned anyway. So why do it at all. Typical prisoners dilemma, loose-loose situation.

[@TragicAyk]

That's pretty good for Nintendo isn't it?

[@Yoshizuyuner]

@@TragicAykit hurts the consumers how this even good thing?

[@JaredHayes541]

This is very intriguing to me as a father with two kids. We have three switches and it’s pretty ridiculous that I have to buy three copies of a game for us all to play. That gets very expensive. I can’t believe that the family plan doesn’t let me share my games with my children. I have tried many work arounds to try and solve this with no luck. I might wait for another updated version of this, but I’m very interested.

[@Fuggettabouttitt]

If you download a game as opposed to buying it physically on your main account you should be able to play it on at least one other console that has your user account on it. It will always prompt you to checking if you're connected to the internet. Me and my sister both played Splatoon 3 with this method. I think this only works for two switches as well.

[@tmack729]

Nintendo's greed knows no bounds. They don't want you to have fun, they just want your money. Get pirating!

[@user-jt1jv8vl9r]

Problem is, Nintendo want to avoid what we all do with our Netflix, Disney +, etc accounts: in that we pay for one account and then share it with all our family at different addresses.

[@bobbykjack]

Wait... you can't just insert the cart into a different Switch?! What happens when you do?

[@Sendsomepie]

This is not a workaround to your problem. As mentioned keys and certs are a thing, if you were to buy 2 mig switches, backup ur physical one and play online on all 3 of them, you'll get banned most likely.

[@AppliedCryogenics]

I hope they can come up with some kind of button to switch games instead of having to put repetitive stress on the card slot.

[@tiagoj8020]

Almost perfect! Gonna wear out the eject parts a lot faster!

[@Anon1370]

yeh thats what i was thinking you would be onto the next switch in no time cause you fked up the slot on the one you had that is gonna get expensive.

[@greenagoo]

Have you ever heard of that happening on anything with parts like this? Even after years (decades in some cases now) of use they still work perfectly. I doubt that a few extra clicks is gonna be the straw that breaks the camels back.

[@jorgevaldez7619]

At first it disappointed me, but isn’t it cheaper to fix your switch instead of buying 5 games?

[@larkan511]

You're more likely to wear out your joycons first

[@tiagoj8020]

@@larkan511 agreed

[@ALC570]

As someone who owns a patched console, man I’ve been waiting for this

[@g.iantamongtitans]

I've been waiting for this, too, but I'm likely to continue to wait for the response and the second generation that emerges as those who're more eager than I am take it to limits I don't understand, and adapt it in ways I want as features. For now, seeing this is enough.

[@DrumsBah]

As an owner of a large amount of physical Switch games, I suspect my concerns about the tanking of the used game market supercedes my interest in playing game dumps on my unhacked Switch. Am very intrigued in seeing how this plays out and what changes in the security handshake would have to occur to make plausible the Switch 2 being backwards compatible with physical Switch cartidges now thst this exists.

[@aikesscs]

I don't really get why that's such a concern when DS flash carts were incompatible on the 3ds, despite it also being backwards compatible

[@DrumsBah]

​@aikesscs Nintendo obvs had a lot longer to update the security on the 3DS to combat DS flash cards. If rumours are to be believed the Switch 2 could release as early as the end if this year, which does cut it a touch finer. It's not a huge issue. Just interesting.

[@snintendog]

@@aikesscs you might need a refresher on how the DS flash carts worked because they were indeed compatible and just needed Software Updates AKA changing what game showed up when inserted then the 3ds would boot into it until ninty pushed another "security patch" The MIG is more Direct than launching unsigned code that the m3 and r4 did. The Sky was a nightmare for ninty and couldnt get patched out of the 3ds at all.

[@chainingten3819]

TBH, nintendo is the only one in the big three with this problem rn. PS4 and Xbox one emulation is gonna take 10+ years to get to RPCS3 levels, and the Series X and PS5 have tons of digital sales with DRM filled games that persuade impatient gamers to digitally buy. What does nintendo offer? Expensive $60 games that never drop in price? Digital sales where games are the same price as their physical editions? Nintendo must figure this out asap.

[@My_Old_YT_Account]

​​@@chainingten3819both the PS4 and PS5 have been jailbroken, pirated PS4 games can be played on both but not online, PS5 games should be able to run if people figure out why game dumps are still imperfect There's also a running PS4 emulator for Linux but it runs like shit with frequent crashes for now.

[@disgustedluigi]

Their v2 should include a button on the cartridge that cuts a circuit or something to emulate the cycling without ejecting.

[@thesuperzfamilyvlog6607]

I love the idea of having my games all in one cart. It annoys me that I need to always have all my games on hand.

[@enthused7591]

To each their own I guess, but Switch games are the size of a quarter. You can fit 50 of them comfortably in your pocket.. Not exactly inconvenient. People will always find something to complain about.

[@PR0WN3D]

​@Die-Angst 3d world, odyssey, pokemon shield, pokemon scarlet, dk topical freeze, smm2 and more. These are all games I've completed the story mode but still play often cus they're fun and replayable with either new or old save files. Just cus u dont play them doesn't mean other people don't go back often

[@Ivyrigs]

​@@PR0WN3D 90% of people really don't need to bring more than like ten games at once though and even if for some reason you are gonna bring more it's not inconvenient at all. They're the smallest cartridges you could possibly use without losing them too easily and they weigh nothing.

[@Vladislav888]

I have a Switch, but my main portable of choice is a Steam Deck. It has 0.5Tb internal + 1 Tb SD card and I still consider this quite restrictive. It's wild to me that you cannot carry most, if not all of your library with you. All of your games with you offline 24/7 should be the standard.

[@inklingboi08]

@@enthused7591 Ah yes, I'd love to fish through a ziplock bag of tic tac sized games to find the one I want. Definitely not more convenient to click a button on a list.

[@friedeggsareawesome]

I won't use this until the switch is finished, I really enjoy collecting physical games, but I've been waiting for something like the R4 card for the switch, this will keep the console alive for years to come.

[@originalkhawk]

i buy all my games as digital release so i am not too worried about piracy, what i am excited for is the potential possibility to use this card to soft mod switch models that where previously not modable, with more modable switches out there, hopefully the homebrew scene will start to pick up, i remember back in the day the 3DS and the Wii homebrew scene where great, there was some really cool stuff out there.

[@KyriosHeptagrammaton]

My thoughts exactly. I don't want to pirate any games, but it would be awesome if I could easily stick some BOTW mods on my nearly unmoddable Switch

[@marcosdheleno]

unless you are talking about steam, i would be worried about losing access to those games. unfortunately, nintendo specially is very gung ho when it comes times to cut the cord of their live services.

[@tardistrailers]

Can this card run unsigned code though? That would be required for homebrew/mods.

[@kytechnelson]

​@@tardistrailersit probably can't allow you to run homebrew. However, flash carts historically have been used as a way to enable the installation of homebrew for some systems, so maybe sometime in the future.

[@STJebus]

Would the Mig Switch allow you to play a modded game on an unhacked switch? Example: you dump Brilliant diamond and mod it with Luminescent Platinum, then put it on the mig switch and go to play it on you unhacked switch. Would that work?

[@frostdragon1950]

Good question! Modded switch games on an unmoved switch would be amazing

[@BustedSkies]

Ditto on this question. Modded Animal crossing would be amazing lol

[@Robbie-mw5uu]

no because you need layeredFS in order to play modded games which is done through the custom firmware before the game is loaded the only way to mod a cartridge game is if the rom itself was modded

[@8imuspaul1291]

Love that you did this video. We support you.

[@secondengineer9814]

I agree with the need to proceed with caution here, but I am very excited about the prospect of having xci files of the games I own, to be able to patch them or even emulate them!

[@Shauny_D]

never considered the issues of buying a used game and duplicating it online with who ever dumped it. Thanks for the heads up

[@AnarchyEngineer]

The issue isn’t new though. It’s been a risk since cart dumping was a thing via CFW. It’s just now XCIs (cart dumps) don’t need the unique ID or cert when used on CFW but it wouldn’t stop you from ripping them anyway and using them like you would with this flash cart. Thankfully up to this point no one has been (publicly) outed as doing this although a few have claimed to do it early on.

[@PureBavarian]

As someone who has a ton of physical games and is too lazy to get up and switch carts, I could benefit from this

[@friednoodle6582]

As someone who loves to collect physical copies this is the ultimate back up. Most of my DS games don't work anymore and I'm afraid some of my switch cartridges will suffer the same fate. This will definitely alleviate that anxiety.

[@lukaskidd4621]

why don't the ds carts work anymore? i have 50+ they all work.

[@drwatson32bit]

I've not heard of DS games ceasing to function. Why do you think that's happening to you?

[@friednoodle6582]

The only thing I can think of is wear and tear and would often forget to take it off the DS.

[@DramatikNote]

How I just found a copy of Hannah Montana Music Jam my sister lost behind the dryer in like 09 and it works fine. Do you live in a highly humid area?

[@friednoodle6582]

@@DramatikNote ah, that could be the culprit. I just remembered when I was about to insert one cartridge it was somewhat moist and think nothing of it.

[@RayquaSr.]

Im excited to see this technology develop. One if my biggest fears in this modern era is loosing the games ive bought digitally. With how Nintendo system locks everything, even if i log into the same Nintendo account, if my switch broke beyond the ability to do the file transfer i would simply loose access to those games. Not to mention the inevitable closer of the Eshop, and ability to redownload said games.

[@magnus1130]

i can just redownload them with my nintendo account, huh?

[@hypercoyote]

I believe Nintendo stopped tying the games to the hardware after the 3DS. If you login to another switch, you can download them on that one too.

[@rustyshackleford3053]

@@magnus1130 They just killed the 3DS that way, you can't download anything on them anymore. So you have to resort to things like this.

[@closesho]

on the switch your games are tied to the nintendo account, even if your switch explodes you'll still have access to your games if you buy another one, the only thing you would lose would be save files from games that don't have cloud saving (pokemon for example), but besides that you can still access all of it

[@MarshySquid]

That’s why I try to purchase physical copies.

[@kipschumm1849]

I definitely plan to get a Mig Switch cart but I'm going to wait a few months to see if Nintendo figures out how to detect this and starts banning accounts or devices before ordering one

[@MaxiKing913]

If you dont use your own Games, you will get instaban, since all Roms share Keys and Like 20 ppl playing the Same physical Card. All Banned then

[@BigMacOrange]

So like if I borrow a cart from one of my friends I can get banned?

[@handsomedubbledee]

This card is going to be valuable after Nintendo discontinues the Switch. I would get one and just keep it unopened until Nintendo releases the new console and start closing the services on the Switch

[@JaybyrdMystic]

Hopefully they don't take it down it was very informative. Granted I had no idea what that was before watching the video, but I appreciate the knowledge.

[@xProErax]

The one thing I'm worried about is how the R4 basically got replicated and bootlegged by other manufacturers and has a time bomb to ruin the card itself. People have found ways to get around it but it really leads to FOMO for me when it comes to they're not possibly being a second iteration though hopefully there is and it'll be overall improved compared to this being the first attempt.

[@limocrasher4]

Never heard of the time bomb. What was it?

[@savvasf7136]

Basically the Flashcard was coded to stop working after a specific date​@@limocrasher4

[@pigeonluvr420]

@@limocrasher4 Some R4 knockoffs came with a piece of software that rendered the card unreadable after a period of time. While people did eventually find ways around the time bomb on the DS, it's still a scummy business practice.

[@SLAAMIT]

oh wow a bootleg afraid of being copied womp womp

[@JustJoshIsUnavailable]

@@SLAAMITWhat? The time bomb was so you were forced to by another and get stuck in an endless loop.

[@dingusbrule5756]

I remember this on the original DS, it was nice to select a game like a normal file, through the gui

[@ChrisTian-sd5yq]

yeah r4

[@Mizai]

r4 for the win

[@centurionzo1228]

I'm honestly surprised that it took so much time for a thing like this to exist for Switch I'm honestly wonder what will happen, we gonna have to wait for it to see how things go Nintendo is brutal when thing involved them

[@HUYI1]

nintendo are mainly the cause for such slow progress, they thought they could lock down the system by removing the internet browser but that only slowed progress down so far, even PS4 to some degree is homebrewed at 9.00

[@MR-re9pq]

I think it is fake... When he starts mario rpg he makes 2 cuts...

[@skinwalker69420]

I'm not, it takes a lot of time to delid a cartridge and then the chips in it, then get the encryption keys necessary off of it.

[@wakannnai1]

I think it was mostly unnecessary. For legitimate users, digital is convenient enough (with storage being mostly cheap enough to make this happen). For those that wanted to pirate or homebrew rcm/fusee gelee were easy enough and cheap (and was released pretty early in the Switch lifecycle. The appeal of this device is fairly limited. For pirates, this allows you to do what you could with $5-10. It does allow you to go online, but it really seems like a high risk proposition where your cartridge could be banned. The only real use is those that have accumulated large physical libraries and want to take their games without taking their physical copies. All in all it's useless.

[@adriandangelo3029]

@@MR-re9pqits not fake

[@VincentBrauch.aka.derfresheboy]

i hope that they wont ban accounts if they are online at the same time but just let this happen i mean this revolutionary

[@chasesmay7237]

A year or two of dev time (and the ability to run custom firmware) should make for a much more user friendly experience. I loved moonshell and running cool programs on my ds. I never bothered with 3ds flashcarts since it was so easy to hack those. I’m looking forward to this in a year or two, especially when Nintendo stops supporting the switch

[@bmwmd110]

Ther has been CFW for like 5 years now lol

[@bmwmd110]

@@PretendingToBeAHuman People will do the install for 100. So 200 all in with the chip.

[@RaeuberFotzenRotz]

Not at all scattered nor is the community toxic lmao ​the homebrew discord has almost 200k members and everyone is friendly @@PretendingToBeAHuman

[@mrn234]

@@bmwmd110 Very expensive when you can buy the console second hand or new for not much more or the same.

[@elstephono]

The idea of popping a legitimate copy of a game into a non hacked console and getting banned for it is absolutely insane. I hope Nintendo comes up with a solution, though I'm fearful they won't be able to easily do that. Nintendo has no obligation to correct any problems like this, and it's a very complicated problem in the first place.

[@marcosdheleno]

its nintendo, they couldnt care less.

[@d3vitron779]

Eat the rich, piracy isn’t real

[@elstephono]

@d3vitron779 I'm not talking about piracy? Did you watch the video or even read my comment? This has the potential to get accounts of anyone playing second-hand games online, pirating them or not, to be banned

[@alexanderburkhart4078]

I’ll be interested to see if this cartridge will be used to bypass certain security measures barring people from modding newer switches.

[@roflBeck]

That would be nice, but it seems like it can only act as an official game cart.

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@roflBeck *currently. We never had a tool like this to work with when it came to hacking, so the potential is WAY beyond just running backups. Especially if this is actually FPGA based.

[@roflBeck]

@@warbossgegguz679 yeah, true. We'll see what happens.

[@daze8410]

@@roflBeck As a developer/hacker, that is the exact first step in getting system level privileges. You try to get custom code to run in user space then you try to escalate privileges. The first step is usually the hardest part.......

[@xdragoonzero0]

Even if newer switches aren't able to be modded like the V1 switches, I'd just be happy if this enables more permanent CFW for the V1 switches, without a modchip or needing to redo the jig setup.

[@benjaminfuqua3049]

On the one hand, used Switch cartridge prices are gonna drop like a rock, on the other hand, any used Switch cartridge you buy incurs a risk getting your Switch banned, and unable to use online features. Dangerous times, be cautious.

[@TheNameIsSR]

I believe there's support for multiple games on one cartridge, Hasbro Game Night uses this for example. That would be the next step for this.

[@tydshiin5783]

And Ori's collection too with Blind Forest and Will of The Wisps in one card

[@TheThursty100]

The thing is, are those multiple games in one cartridge or is it "one game" with the selection for which code you wanna run? i.e. it's only one game file and it just includes the code for all the games at the same time. That said if the chips just include a "game" which is just a select screen for all the files on the cartridge and executes the code from the other files after selection it might work.

[@psigreen3864]

@@TheThursty100 Yeah I would figure it identifies the one cartridge as containing multiple games, which wouldn't work for this because it has to emulate being the separate cartridges to avoid getting detected.

[@C_Yo]

@@TheThursty100 It actually is multiple games on one cartridge, at least for some of them. Like as in multiple games show up on your home screen when you put the cartridge in

[@Timmyval123]

​@@C_Yolet's fucking gooooooo

[@bunnyflingza]

I actually would of loved something like this when I traveled a lot. Less game cartridges to carry around wouldn't have to worry about possibly losing any.

[@uclapac10]

Are you worried about the flap breaking off when changing game cards?The Switch is so fragile and there is only a cheap thin piece of plastic holding it there while we try to change game cards.Changing games on the Switch is a frustrating and frightening experience.Has your flap broken off yet?

[@bunnyflingza]

The cover of my cartridge slot on my switch and switch lite are both in perfect shape and I use them both regularly. Got the Switch lite as my first when it came out and got the regular switch second hand like two years ago now I'm genuinely not concerned about this at all. @@uclapac10

[@SlayerkingJD]

@@uclapac10mine luckily hasn’t broken in the last 6 years

[@andreisultanoiu2872]

😂😂😂 i have a case that supports like 15 game cartridges, plus the digital ones, you travelling like non-stop?

[@bunnyflingza]

I have one of those cases too, currently using one with a cute pokemon design aha. I got a decent bit of digital games as gifts but I personally only really buy physical games otherwise. Just a preference thing. lmao at one point I barely spent a week a month at my own home so yes I do be going places. @@andreisultanoiu2872

[@keiz_]

Apparently the cost to retailers for the mig switch is $30-35 per unit, so the cost of production is definitely lower.

[@GruseligerZigeuner]

People always only talk about cost of production when it comes to products. No one talks about the development of these particular products, as if they would just be there and one only needs to produce them for a low price.

[@-Burb]

@@GruseligerZigeunerYep I agree. There’s a reason video games for example aren’t free even though game companies can just make unlimited keys of their games for free these days. Development costs lots of money. Just like with games, real products also need lots of development, especially in the tech world.

[@Anon1370]

i hope lots of clones come out and nobody gets a chance to scalp and stockpile nobody should be selling these things for the price of a new switch...

[@Salmon_Toastie]

@@Anon1370Same honestly.

[@keiz_]

​@@Anon1370 I am interested to see if clone devices come out, especially with a better way to switch games than timing ejecting and putting in the game cart repeatedly

[@jade_mcleod]

I think one exciting application for this is for the speedrunning community - a lot of games have certain exploits only available in older versions, which can't be purchased or rolled back to if they've been updated already. This could make accessing old updates much easier as long as someone somewhere can backup a copy of that update!

[@e-tean-son4146]

This was always posible (well... Kinda) if you have a hacked Switch, you can get the NSP version of the game (which Is essencially the 1.0.0 version of the game) you can just take It and install It

[@OMGitsXupi]

amazing potential, the only problem with this vs the R4 for example is that you can just buy a Steam Deck instead of a Switch and play everything for free (or even on your PC)

[@FullaEels]

i imagine later revisions will work like compilation carts do. pop it in and all the titles appear and you can play whatever. that would be massive. I'm more interested in the dumper to create digital backups of my large physical collection (like i did for my 3ds), and so i can play some of em on my steam deck. though im not looking forward to buying a game secondhand and then getting my account banned cause someone's dumped their carts.

[@Jalae]

very unlikely for it to appear as all the titles due to the protocol. more likely would be a button on top that disconnects the cart and reconnects the cart as the next game without needing to physically eject and insert. (in fact it's such an obviously better method and it would be so relatively easy to implement it makes me wonder if that too is impossible due to the protocol)

[@TheViper4Life]

This will be great once more revisions happen. Popping it in and out is kind of a deal breaker for me right now, but I get these things need time to integrate properly.

[@heiseheise]

might be a hardware dial wheel (like what you see on cheap bedside lights from a few decades ago), or, if the card slot can deliver enough power (it clearly can for an LED) perhaps bluetooth LE that can talk to a phone application that would have a cached list of all the files on the SD card and choose it that way.

[@benjaminvdvyt]

I remember having like a 16 in 1 gameboy cartridge with a button on it to switch games. They should be able to do that here as well.

[@mymusicaljesus]

Would love to hear more on this. looks like this just shot to the top of my next Google search/deep dive@@benjaminvdvyt

[@Stickers2Go]

Dude, this device just gave you the entire library of the switch games and you're complaining you have to insert a cartridge multiple times to use it? Unbelievable.

[@TheViper4Life]

@Stickers2Go I didn't "complain" about anything, I stated that having to do that is not for me and that I'm willing to wait for later renditions that improve on this. Stop fishing for an argument.

[@7H3541N7]

My kids have had several cartridges die like Minecraft and Mario. It's not cheap replacing them. Having a backup would be nice

[@astralpowers]

The moon is red. The frenzy has begun.

[@julytakahashi4360]

7:20 I believe that this has a VALID use when you think about games in other countries, for example Brazil. Piratesofsoftware did a great video on the topic but basicaly Brazil has a lot of piracy because games cost around 1/4 of the minimum monthly income. If Nintendo or other companies simply localize game prices they would prevent piracy because the games would be accessible for the public and not for the 1-2% wealthy Brazilians.

[@joshuaosei5628]

But then wouldn't everyone just begin to import foreign games? Even though I agree with your sentiment, no company is willing to take such a risk.

[@julytakahashi4360]

@@joshuaosei5628 If you import foreign games, you would still pay full price (For example: 60$) for it. The difference would be to the re-seller, he would get no profit from it. The idea of localizing games only work for digital software, almost no one buys fisical media, except from colletionists or special cases such as collector's editions.

[@GoulartGH]

@@joshuaosei5628 shipping from said countries + import taxes on the receiving countries more than likely would make the game more expensive than just paying the regular price also Steam already has regional pricing, they require the person to access their account from the country they wanna buy the game from in order to access the store for that country, and even though that can be easily done with a proxy, the amount of people that actually do that is negligible. so yeah, it could be done if Nintendo is willing to go through the effort

[@insomniostudios4359]

Only would work if switch consoles and games were region locked. And the thing is, we already have that with the eshop. I think every single latinamerican switch owner is well aware of this, and what happens when people abuse it (Argentina's Eshop AKA the Messishop).

[@Hamburgerdad]

Great video, really goes through the pros and cons of the flash cart for non-piracy-related stuff. Seems like a good idea to hold out for now and see if a better option comes along, especially with the fact that you have to keep popping in and out the cartridge. I'm sure there will be a future update eventually where you don't need to do that.

[@RaeuberFotzenRotz]

I was thinking that the flash cart could simulate being ejected? But I don't know whether the switch mechanically checks if a cartridge was ejected.

[@drink15]

Glad some made this but switching games seems like a pain. Gen2 might have a button to change games like the ones for the 3DS did.

[@primus711]

Why they didn't just put at least a button on top to switch games is beyond me

[@Dracs_Brood]

Because it would most likely be detected by N, by doing it this way itbfuntions as a normal cartridge.

[@douglassmith9445]

You are spot on with this comment. So far from what I’ve observed, this flash cartridge is only worth it if you want to rotate between a small handful of physical games you own. For people who have 100 different physical copies of games, this flash cartridge can be considered a slap in the face. You really have to prioritize the top five physical games you want it to rotate between, otherwise it’s not worth it at this time. Hopefully some updates will fix this issue considering it is somewhat frustrating where it is at currently.

[@kaellito]

2.0 is comming

[@LordSadCat]

@@douglassmith9445 You know. You could just have more Sd cards. You can get them pretty cheap now. 3-5 games per sd card.

[@jceggbert5]

There's a flashcart for the VirtualBoy that has buttons and an e-ink screen so you can select the game you want when the cart is out of the console and then put it in. Switch carts are tiny and there may not be room for all that, but something similar should be doable.

[@thanksyoutubefortakingmyhandle]

I had an R4 for the DS and it was so amazing, that was like 16 years ago

[@thanksyoutubefortakingmyhandle]

except it had a custom interface for all your games this would be so annoying having to eject it everytime to change games

[@TunnelPlaya]

If companies keep saying we don't own digital copies of games and they can revoke access at any point, piracy isn't stealing. Sns

[@voxelhat]

This kinda stuff is what is going to make Nintendo do something as drastic as “you must be connected online to play this game” as a counter measure against these type of cartridges.

[@dtreezy]

These types of devices have been around since the Gameboy at least

[@Whfox]

7:08 Even if you put the console in airplane mode the Switch keeps logs that will be sent to Nintendo's servers when going online. Probably even if you only connect it for the required firm updates that some games ask for.

[@Leclaron]

This will be great for game library preservation, especially considering the bitrot issue that Switch carts have.

[@noscopesallowed8128]

Great... Didn't know Switch games had longevity issues. Been buying all my games physically so future generations could also enjoy them. Guess that was a waste of money

[@BMR86]

what are you talking about? bitrot? how can bits of information "rot"? I've never heard anyone talk about "bitrot", you must be trolling

[@ArnaudMEURET]

@@BMR86Ok so you’re just too young to have heard of it. But have you heard of Google? 😤

[@noscopesallowed8128]

@@BMR86 It's a well known term for degradation of physical media. It's a very real thing that a lot of physical media suffers from.

[@BMR86]

@@ArnaudMEURET well yes, young, but not super young, I know about CD rot, where data that is physically on the label degrades, but talking about a switch cart, how can that degrade?

[@Anthestudios]

Very good comments on the implications for the second hand market. Thank you for your insights

[@VisionizeTech]

The R4 had like a mini os like a User interface of an emulator. Im guessing the security couldn't do that trick now

[@insanegammer109]

Sounds like unless Nintendo wants a class action lawsuit, they can't ban people based on Cartridge IDs because you can purchase a game 100% legally and have no idea someone else already cloned it

[@kdia62]

Yeah like imagine the people that buy used games at gamestop, then got banned because the previous owned put up their cloned cartridge on a from site? nintendo needs to just ay off

[@lukeskywalker987]

I highly doubt it. This will only really affect the second hand market, which Nintendo doesn't make any money from and thus probably has no legal responsibility for it. On the bright side I don't think people will be making a bunch of copies if they'll all get banned anyway.

[@FunnyParadox]

@@lukeskywalker987 Someone can buy a store copy, dump it, return it to the store, then the person who buys it's first hand game 50€ to 70€ gets banned

[@vlesmeries]

I'm getting anxiety just looking at the battery indicator lol. @TakiUdon can you check if this drains the battery appreciably?

[@warbossgegguz679]

His battery shows 1/4 the whole video, so I'd doubt it.

[@freshbakd]

Don't bother wasting your money. They only actually ship to reviewers. Ordered four months ago from mig directly.

[@ProdChikara]

Get it yet?

[@NocturnalRS]

I hope they don't go after you so simply being informational but this vid alone is gonna blow things up!

[@Skyline770]

Wouldn't cycling through a large collection of backups on this thing wear out the switch's game card slot over time?

[@dankandwatch]

typically stores don't do returns on open games. I was interested in this because I also buy all my games physically but this gen I'm not a fan of since you have to insert and eject it constantly just to go through a list of games. it would get really annoying. would like to see if they would be able to do a menu of some sort like the R4 cards.

[@Roccondil]

Gamestop doesn't do returns on open games, but they do have a buyback program where they buy your used games (for a low amount and then resell at an obscene markup). Many smaller mom&pop local game and comics stores also have similar programs. The bootlegs and dumped&resold carts will absolutely demolish the used switch game market as customers start seeing themselves be locked out of online accessibility. If customers start connecting being locked out of online functionality to used games, then they will start distrusting used purchases, and either start purchasing only new or stop purchasing Nintendo systems and games altogether.

[@bobbykjack]

@@Roccondil "The bootlegs and dumped&resold carts will absolutely demolish the used switch game market " - IF Nintendo decides to brick legitimate systems. Let's wait and see if they go down that road.

[@Papayasaur]

another use case you didn’t mention is the possibilities of playing modded games on non-modded hardware. this could be very useful for mod creators as well, as it’s just swapping out an SD card instead of having to reload the rom on the console

[@lyn4739]

It can only play signed executables, so no

[@FunnyParadox]

@@lyn4739 But modded games do have signed code ? it's not a homebrew

[@DensenBro]

If it was that easy to run modded software they wouldve included a menu where u can just simply choose the game ur looking to play, but thats obviously not a thing

[@travenature]

Well Nintendo could do this with the stores that do buy/sell used games that they can put the game cartridge in a machine and pay Nintendo to change the unique identifier and at the same time put a block on the old identifier on block list so the stores can comfortably resell the game without chance that new buyer console gets bricked and the old person console could get bricked if they go online with the game. But doesn’t prevent them to play it still offline.

[@Nitidus]

If I had a Switch that wasn't moddable, as most nowadays are, I'd _instantly_ get this and hope for people to develop emulators and homebrew games or ports that disguise as a normal game. But I'd still be worried a little bit because the contacts in the Switch's card slot are known to wear out at some point. Just as you don't want to pull out your micro SD card if you're on a modded Switch and instead transfer files via USB or FTP. So switching games often looks like it could cause problems quite soon. Also, I would really want to know if their method is patchable by software updates.

[@hansgichtler9102]

Every Switch is now modable,it just required to solder in a rp2040

[@LuckyIStar]

May you go forever un-ninja'd, my good sir.

[@SkrimboJones]

I remember when the ds and 3ds stuff was getting popular. They had a pretty big indie scene with game development. Do you think we will see any of that with this product?

[@marcosdheleno]

yes, but also no, the diference is, we live in a very diferent era. we might see apps, like custom emulators that will let us play stuff from older gens(specially because nintendo cant be bothered to actually do that). but games? why? it would be far easier today to just dev a game and put it on steam or even on nintendo's shop. i mean, some of the best games in the switch are indies that if released back in the ds/3ds era would be exactly what you are talking about, but now, there's no need for it.

[@awesomeferret]

Oof. Did you not watch the video? As of now, it's can't run unsigned code, so... No homebrew whatsoever. That's why this video is still up. It simply isn't a piracy device, since it can't run unsigned code, and you need to have physical copies of everything you want to play (unless of course, you're OK with a banned console).

[@Robbie-mw5uu]

you don't need the switch to be modded to run homebrew it just needs to be able to enter recovery mode (rcm) and access homebrew launcher

[@deckofcards87]

Shuntaro Furukawa: Who is this man? Clerk: Ah. Taki Udon, my lord. Shuntaro Furukawa: DESTROY HIM!!!