The Conquest of Hispania & Battle of Tours - The Moors of Andalusia - EP 3 P 2 WOTW

[@hiview44]

What an amazing and mesmerizing series. I truly enjoyed it tremendously. This podcast is so personal to me and touches the most profound constituents of my being as and Arab and a Muslim originally from the regions around Makkah in nowadays Saudi Arabia. As you can imagine, Islamic history and culture is the fabric that our souls are made of. However, the manner in which history is taught in our school and written in our traditional textbooks are designed for self-glorification and ideological indoctrination. How refreshing and enlightening to hear or read about it from an objective and academically unbiased perspective. I can't thank you enough.

[@FlashPointHx]

I wanted to really thank you for this lovely comment and that you shared something so personal. I am happy that you not only like my content, but also appreciate that I’m trying to be as objective on a story that is surrounded by so much bias. It has required a considerable amount of research. Please continue and let me know what your thoughts are as the story unfolds. All the best!

[@awepen1596]

@@FlashPointHx Thanks you for the free detailed educational content as well.

[@nr3059]

Islamic history and culture is the fabric our souls are made of, truly said .. In my opinion it was merely a doctrine to enforce not to indulge .. As clearly show on old days, it wasn't the religion but mostly the wealth from invading others .. That what it was over Arab peninsula as narrated in first part of the same author here .. The Arabs just extended their horizon with more loot and better life at the cost of the invaded. While religion were fueling their unity.

[@iqbalhussain1253]

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[@iqbalhussain1253]

Oof lo

[@bryon5284]

Fellas one of many things I can say about Flashpoint History is ...its timeless. My kids and grandchildren and listen and learn from you CHeers Flashpoint History

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks! I'm happy to hear this. I've gotten my little one into history as well.

[@David-qv9oi]

I love this series!! This is one of the things I listen to it work make the time go by. It was excellent

[@FlashPointHx]

Awesome to hear David!

[@nomeyodomar]

I definitely am overwhelmed by such good quality videos and communicative competence. My goodness!!!

[@1alwayswired]

I appreciate all of the historical information you are dispensing and find your style and presentation to be enjoyable ie casual and entertaining. Far too many of these are nothing more than a dry recitation of dates and theories concerning the historical subject matter rendering them stupefyingly boring. Thank you for giving history life. 5 Stars.

[@FlashPointHx]

Know exactly what you mean - history needs to be a story with attributes that one can associate with or find themselves in similar situations. Then it comes to life. Happy you liked my content!

[@brixcosmo]

Love this! In Portugal a lot of us are Mouros, as in Moors, as in Morenos, as in Mauri, as in Mauro specially in the South. Were not different from Berbers a.k.a. Amazyh. Almoravids, Almohads, Ummayad Caliphate (Muslim Moors). But you're right we live in Europe therefore are Europeans and Moroccans and Algerians live in Africa and therefore are Africans. None of both represent a single ethnicity, culture or religion. But both us as Moroccans and Algerians share not only berber blood as Phoenician blood (Levante - Lebanon) as Arabic blood (Ummayad Caliphate conquered everything from 1AD to 15th Century. From Mesopotamia (Persian Golf) to Egypt to Mahgreb to Iberian Peninsula. The Reconquista weren't battles between different ethnicities but religions. Both Portuguese Kingdom and Spanish Kingdom incorporated millions of Moors that converted from Islam to Christianity. Search one of our first navigators João Vaz Corte-Real and the Corte-Real Family. Well that's a Portuguese Moor. Persian/Arabic looking AF. You can see it Cristiano Ronaldo, Cancelo, Daniela Melchior, Daniela Ruah, Sara Sampaio, Nelly Furtado and so on so on. Zidane could be Portuguese. We got a lot of Zidanes, Benzemas and Salahs too. Best Regards from Portugal ❤🇲🇿🇦🇴🇬🇼🇨🇻🇸🇹🇧🇷🇵🇹

[@samuelferrell9257]

Yes the Iberian peninsula is a true melting pot, as is most of the earth now. Rich culture and genealogy. The peninsula has been (and still is) home to Iberians, Celts, Celtiberian, Carthaginians, Greeks, Romans, Vandals, Suebi, Alans, Visigoths, Galician, Lusitanians, Cantalonians, Basque, Andorans, Berbers, Moors, Syrians, Arabs, Normans, and Franks. Now we have the beautiful Spanish and Portuguese people and culture which also spread out across the world and have left their impact as well.

[@lifewitwoody186]

Having visited and lived in Spain, I find it funny that you only pronounce Barcelona correctly, having said that, this is probably the best and least biased history of the Iberian Peninsula I have heard so far. "Kings and Generals", and you're channel is amazing. I enjoy everything you put out. I did a 40 page thesis paper on the Normans and would love to have a chat with you!

[@mrmoore2050]

An under-known battle, and an under-viewed video about it. Thank you for helping me understand battle of Tours.

[@robinazaman8548]

Fantastic series.Brilliantly told a fascinating and informative podcast.I cant imagine the time and work that has gone in to this series but i can not recommend it highly enough.Congratulations for taking the time to do this.

[@FlashPointHx]

Thank you! I’m so happy that you like my content. I really appreciate the statement Because it really does take a lot of time to create these videos. However, it’s a fascinating experience to do the research and create the animations.

[@misterangel8486]

Simply fascinating, never to old to learn more. The way you tell this gives me the feeling to have been there with the main characters. Impressive👍👏 Live long and prosper🖖

[@Gunslinger65]

Thank you for sharing!

[@paullewis2413]

It´s of course impossible for us at this time to determine the exact effect of the Battle of Tours but I`m inclined to think that it`s importance should not be underestimated. The very fact the the Moors had reached this far into what is modern day France suggests that they were almost certainly on a mission to conquer more lands and increase the Caliphate. Their defeat would not have been expected and might well have been the catalyst that finally put an end to their ambitions.

[@FlashPointHx]

Someone has mentioned that the conquest of Hispanic began with a raid and a battle that dominoe'd into the conquest of the peninsula - so there is that

[@BruceWayne-ri4wr]

And by the way the Moors were not one drop of blood black people let's get that out of the way before some Afrocentric fool comes in here

[@terrybull5761]

Absolutely Mesmerising. Fantastically addictive. Thank you so much for the enlightenment.

[@FlashPointHx]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@chrissyuy]

So far, so good! Sharing!

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks for sharing!

[@jwink7795]

great show. thank you good sir

[@FlashPointHx]

Thank you - appreciate the multiple comments

[@Viktors633]

This is a wonderful series you are creating here. I have always enjoyed Roman History and 19/20th century European and American history. However the Muslim conquests of Arabia, Spain and North Africa was a subject i knew little about. After Rome i kinda knew that in the UK we had the dark ages but i knew next to nothing what was taking place in what was to become the Muslim world. What i knew about the Muslim conquests was from a British perspective ie nasty King John and good King Richard and Charlton Heston in El Cid. Thank you for enlightening me.

[@FlashPointHx]

Thank you so much for posting this lovely comment ! Its statements like this that keep a podcaster going. The idea that these videos gave someone a new look at what (for me) is an amazing time period. Happy that you liked the content this much! All the best!

[@jreiland07]

(Late Classical/Early Medieval history) + (ASMR) = Flash Point History 👌

[@FlashPointHx]

Wow thanks ! Tbh I had to look the abbreviation up - appreciate it!

[@tabletopgeneralsde310]

Another great podcast, awesome, really enjoy them while painting my miniatures.

[@turkialsul7847]

The funny and interesting thing is that the ummayads were more romanized and looked west while the abbasids were more persianised and looked east.

[@samuelferrell9257]

Greek and Hebrew culture had permeated Arabic culture at this point. The Arabs actually spread the written works of the Greek and Hebrew as well as Persan and Sanskrit classics to Iberia.

[@georgib0y]

Love the Sean Connery reference! :D About Potiers, seems that is not really the main stop of the Moors. The bad logistics (Pyreneess) and the disintegration of the Caliphate was the main issue on my view.

[@FlashPointHx]

hahaha - just couldn't help myself

[@shytownprovoked6761]

Hey man I really appreciate your attention to the politics. I've read the Moors in Spain that echoes all of this,except you dig deeper than the book. Outstanding!!

[@emperor_ra]

This guy's really objective, I love it.

[@rjones83061]

way to go brotha..........no BS right to the point........cool smooth delivery....congrats!!! and thank you

[@FlashPointHx]

any time!

[@bipl8989]

Algeciras is west south west a couple hundred km. (Immediately across the small bay behind Gibraltar).

[@kunjbhardwaj48]

Next to WW2 yours is the best exciting with interesting Quotes and all is the best commentary I have enjoyed. Thank you and thank you.I have been waiting for this beautiful Spain hx for years and I am looking towards the very exciting Reconquista.

[@FlashPointHx]

Hey thanks! I’m happy you like my content - let me know what you think of the series as you go along

[@edwardhogan1877]

From the map showing the junction of 2 rivers at the rear of the wooded heights where Charles Martel's Franks took their stand-was it a good tactical position if retreat was necessary? If only King Harold's Saxons at Hastings had had heir discipline their infantry would have repeated their success against Norman cavalry charges!

[@FlashPointHx]

You make a really good point - retreat would not have been much of an option. This was either hold the ground and fight or die trying. His men knew it too. Sort of that ‘Cortez burning his ships’ thought process

[@jorge8915]

Amazing thank you for your videos

[@FlashPointHx]

My pleasure!

[@woolence1]

Hi, great....amazing series....just wanted to say, you can use pictures of Paja Jovanovic, they would be great for this. Maybe to use them for some new Projects. Hope you will see this :), all the best!

[@FlashPointHx]

Great suggestion! Just looked him up - has awesome pics

[@raaamoun2471]

Really amazing documentary..thanks

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks !

[@moankhi]

hello, may I know the song at the end? thank you very much!

[@FlashPointHx]

Its a song I created on garageband using a set of loop music.

[@elpashathe7royalmoabites627]

The Moors still live and I am One of many.📚📖📕📘📓📒📰🌌🔭📐👳

[@PaulRobert474]

My Man has a voice for this...

[@Fred_L.]

Quoting Sean Connery quoting Charlemagne ... way to go.

[@FlashPointHx]

Hahha - I had to look that one up. I don’t think it was actually a historical quote - just something they came up with for the movie.

[@michaelmir1364]

Amazing Amazing

[@michaelmir1364]

❤

[@shahmohammad1844]

great episode dude

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks - the next one is on Abd al Rahman I - should be a good one

[@TheTariqibnziyad]

Flash Point History oooh yea we are up for civilization stuff next time.

[@pavelavietor1]

hello the Moors fail to occupy Northern Iberia peninsula, no Northern Spain. Visigoth destroy Rome ending Hispania, they to occupy the Iberia peninsula. Spain 1492 to present, founded by the consolidation of Visigoths Kingdoms, native, and other peoples on the IBERIA PENINSULA. love your videos , thanks for producing them . saludos

[@tylerscofield9799]

I think like the Romans when they went North into Gaul, the Moors realized its big cold and the people there fight. Charles was the nail in that idea.

[@matthewperry5121]

I love this

[@mohamedhilmy8080]

Amazing

[@randee4550]

Can you add the sources, to the videos?

[@steveb.9193]

I have never Heard anything about Carcasonne France and it's fortified city, in the Islamic concuring of the Iberian peninsula or if it had a role in the early or later battles. Were the fortifications of Carcassonne ever involved in a battle in the Conquering or re-conquering of the Islamic peninsula?

[@itsnotatoober]

First off, I like your show. Very interesting. Second I think it would help you to read the Leviathan to better understand war. But you make very good points, and interesting presentation. I think the teutoberg forest had a similar impact on Rome as tours did on the Moors by terrifying them and making it not worth their while to attack the Savage natives just for plunder. Remember it wasn't about survival there anymore but glory and money. And the glory and confidence was shattered at these two battles. Glory and arrogance can be shattered easily , survival instinct can't be crushed through one defeat.

[@itsnotatoober]

My 2 cents

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks -I'm happy you like the show. Its been an interesting journey to make these videos. When you mention Leviathan, you mean the book by Thomas Hobbes right? It seems there are a bunch of other books out by the same name. Interesting point about Tutoberg Forest - I guess you are right - there are encounters that make a civilization pause about attacking a certain people again. You can even extrapolate that out and say that certain wars can break the backbone of an invading empire.

[@Ardunafeth]

Hey, I really like your show. Watched all episodes so far beginning with the Punic wars. Just a few remarks that made me cringe the most... So I decided to leave a comment. Regard it as constructive criticism :) 1. You seem to really care about the pronunciation of Arab names, yet I had to endure Cannae being pronounced as Kennéééy so many times... And the plural of Scipio is Scipii with two ii's... 2. You elaborated on the formation of the visigothic kingdom without even mentioning the hunnic invasions into Gaul and the battle of the Catalaunian plains... 3. You mention that the process of unifying central Europe reached its zenith with the formation of the Holy Roman Empire under Charlemagne. Charlemagne unified most of Western Europe but he didn't get that far in what is now central Europe. Charlemagne was crowned emperor, but the term Holy Roman Empire, was not used until much later. His empire was divided among his grandsons into three pieces after the treaty of Verdun (843) and it was out of the eastern part of his Frankish empire that the HRE would eventually form. The HRE expanded east but it never included France.

[@FlashPointHx]

Wow - thanks for the feed back. I take it you really like history. I’ve heard Cannae pronounced both Can-eye and Can-knee. As for Scipio - think it was a slip as I had probably said it a thousand times - when I was creating the Punic Wars I only had an outline which I would just create the narrative, but I changed over to a script for the next series. But probably said Scipio’s a few times in there - more so out of exhaustion. The Hunnic invasions were important - they pushed everyone around. They were the reason many other barbarians crosses into the Roman Empire, but sometimes there is only so much you can fit into a series. However, I have a three part series on Attila in podcast format if you’re interested - covers his invasion and the Battle of Catalaunian Plains in detail. As for Charlemagne thanks for that info. My focus was more on his impact on Al Andalus so wanted to just mention his main points without getting to much into details, again when it comes to a producing a podcast you need to keep the narrative going. I appreciate you writing all this - hopefully you found the rest of the series decent.

[@Ardunafeth]

Thank you for answering. Just because I have a few remarks, doesn't mean I don't love the series. I'm already looking forward to the Cortez/Aztecs part!

[@FlashPointHx]

No worries - you were respectful in your feedback and I appreciate that. Plenty of trolls online. Like I said this is a learning process for everyone. Especially in this series on Mooriah Spain, I realized from the start how important it is to throughly research as much as possible - hence it takes me a month to produce an episode. I think there needs to be a degree of responsibility when one talks about history.

[@maximus0928]

That’s pretty cool that Martel and Charlemagne only lost once their stories careers. Talk about impressive.

[@StoicHistorian]

Charles Martell was great but he was just one of the many causes as to why the Caliphate never went far into France

[@rkaiser7767]

A brilliant history lesson.

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks - I saw your other comment , seems like you are going through the series =)

[@franksalz9114]

MAy Allah s.w.t bless abdul rahman gaffiqi he was not interested in wealth but to spread islam he was a legend he was martyred fighting not running

[@Illuvatar9]

MY FELLOW HUMAN BEING, why would you spread LIES TO COUNTER VERIFIED HISTORY?. If you gotta "spread" Sleaze-slam by subjugating innocent people, then the religion is a goddamn cult. Nobody who was converted ON THE PAIN OF DEATH AND RAEPE, really asked for it. NO ONE. Zilch. NADA. Nobody wants to die for the needs of some man's hallucinations. If Quallahz was "good" and "just" he would just send "prophetz" to other areas as well. Propoganda (religious indoctrination) has brainwashed your mind. Please understand, nobody.. literally nobody outside of your religion, cares about your perceived sky daddy.

[@Illuvatar9]

What is wrong with you? Why can't you realise that MANY MANY PEOPLE don't want anything to do with Bullah and his cronies. They are murderous raiders as history proves it. Whoever the people.

[@matladimoagi7386]

Your commentary has me six feet under... "Frothing at the mouth for Arab blood". Hahaha..

[@Lusitania77]

Well, to answer your question at 17:50 I believe that it did had an effect of positevilly changing the mindset of the people that lived in those times. I mean, if one imagines to live in that era, I guess it would be wonderfull news to ear that the infidels had been defeated, wouldn't it? Even if in the grand scheme it was just one battle and we don't even know all the facts, I imagine that the event would have had a positive effect on the soldiers and spokesmen of battles to come... I am not really sure but, anyway, that is what I think.

[@bardopatrol3775]

Charles Martel saved Europe no doubt.

[@geraldcapon392]

Good day to you sir, I’m enjoying your podcast series on Islam a lot. There is an Arab text (I’ll dig it out the reference) which indicates that there was a cavalary regiment missing at Poitiers because of bickering between the Berbères and the Kabyls. Equally two experienced infantry regiments that were meant to be there were putting down a revolt in CaesarAugusta (Zaragoza). If not even der gross Karl Hammer would have had his work cut out, and I really believe we would have become mostly Muslim in Western Europe. Further the Frankish Merovingian dynasty was in it’s death throes, this once gold rich land was now ruined. This was happening because of the collapse of Frankish/Byzantine trade due to Islamic conquest in the East as well as the Mediterranean becoming an Islamic lake. The Hammer family were really hand in glove with the Catholic church, even in spite of a bit of aggro with some church land. History says that the Merovingians were disliked by the Catholic church for allowing Jewish Syrian merchants to practice their religion and trade in their still functioning Roman towns. After all it was Gross Karl, Karl Hammer’s grandson, who freed the pope from the Lombards - who then crowned him Carolus Magnus Emporer of the Western Roman Empire on Chrimbo in 800. To finish, the Narbonne region including French Catolonia remained Muslim until the 780's, it was Gross Karl himself who conquered this region. On a church in St Génise des fontaines there is a contemporary engraved plaque in latin warning people off of Islam.

[@FlashPointHx]

well said ! Happy that you liked my video so much to bring such insight

[@geraldcapon392]

@@FlashPointHx I've actually finished the whole reconquista set now and am eternally grateful to you for filling in my knowledge on this subject. This oeuvre is a magnificent all encompassing and professional work, thank you very much sir. Henri Pirenne an early 20th century Wallon historian details this change between the Merovingian and Carolingian dynasties and gives much detail of the circumstances of life in Merovingian cities with their trade with Byzance, this work is translated into English. He also in 'Mohammet et Charlemagne' makes it very clear that the rise of the Carolingian dynasty was due to Islamic expansion in the Iberian peninsula, but above all to the end in trans Mediterranean Frankish/Byzantine trade due to chaos there and the Med becoming an Islamic lake. What is interesting is that Carolus Magnus was responsible for the bloody destruction of the Pagan culture in Europe with the active encouragement and participation of the Catholic church. Some historians say that it was the direct descendants of those that escaped to Scandinavia from the bloody pogroms in Saxony and Frisia that were the direct cause for the Viking raids. After all they started by attacking only Catholic establishments, starting with Lindisfarne in 793. This was in reprisal for the bloody destruction by Charlemagne of their pagan places of worship. Thanks again g.

[@MissRenee_X]

It’s not even cold Hispania historically. I have nationality by ancestral descent, I am a Moor of Andalusia nobody even addresses the Iberian peninsula correctly

[@chasemurraychristopherdola7108]

My uncle got me a shirt that said ah the element of surprise

[@omarlasheen5218]

Seeing as the Battle of Poitier caused two not so friendly French Kings join forces to defeat a threat that was deemed “black” and “heretic,” it is one of the first of many examples of a unified “white” Europe. This laid the groundwork for the reconquista and then eventually Spanish colonialism in the Americas. But of course this is looking very far into the future. Europe prior to and even during the time of the Moors in Al-Andalus was a region of many wars and distinct kingdoms and nationalities. The conception of whiteness came from the armed unions/production of weaponry throughout Europe as a Christian land

[@FlashPointHx]

@@omarlasheen5218 you definitely need to see my entire Reconquista series then

[@nomeyodomar]

When I visited the French Pyrenees I saw in a museum a colection of clogs with very long sharp tips upwards. They were very richly decorated. They were called "Sabots de Marriage" (marriage clogs) I asked: why do they have this name? The answer: when the Moors were here in the Pyrenees, some maidens were dating them. Those maidens had their fiancés away fighting i battle. When the marriages later occured, the grooms would use the tips of the clogs for revenge

[@FlashPointHx]

wow!

[@theodorsebastian4272]

It's interesting that it took so long for post Roman Europe to figure out something that Assyria figure out thousands of year ago. Professional army doesn't seem to be such a novel idea.

[@goreacraft]

I loved it

[@FlashPointHx]

Awesome! Good to hear.

[@goreacraft]

small tip: can you add small animations to battles like "BazBattles" or "Kings and Generals" do? (if it is allot of work it does not worth as it is not much gain, just flavor)

[@FlashPointHx]

Gorea - I just learned a new video editing software - check out my lastest Video named Ilipa or Cannae - perhaps this is what you are looking for =)

[@sixtusjunior4306]

nice

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks !

[@halklegman6490]

Poitier was a turning point, highly impactful and, hard to over blow. The morale of those who had fought and won carried over. Certainly that knowledge that they fought and beat an hitherto victorious heavy cavalry had to play major role in Charles's victories. Armies that believe they can win and have competent commanders, usually win. G-d is not always on the side of the bigger battalions. Napoleon said the moral is to the physical as three to one. Of course he probably said it in French. That the Arabs, much like the Mongols, had reached their logistical end is hard to dispute. In addition, for the Moors, climate would be an issue. Dry climate to damp. climate plays hell on un-.waxed bow strings. . My very recent MA in World History (I'm 77) had me reading one academic after another, each having a historical axe to grind. a theory on how or why. Historians in research university have to publish; then they are interested in how many citations they get in other academic papers. History is full of theories, none of them explain everything and most all have many ideas that are well worth integrating into our thoughts. That said, it is a way of thinking that narrows the mind: it is not always, in fact it is rarely, Either/Or; mostly it is Both/And.

[@Motive11331]

28:42 is eerily familiar

[@FlashPointHx]

It was meant to be. Civilizations that enter this period simply die - crushed under their own weight

[@sofieselene]

Some Syrious infighting?

[@FlashPointHx]

ha!

[@skeeterhoney]

"Two scoops of ice cream" LOL

[@FlashPointHx]

hahahah - I . . . .ah . .. . not sure where I got ... . that one hehehehe

[@nmagain24]

Product of a good marketing scheme

[@FlashPointHx]

Ha! You need to listen to my podcast episode on the song of Roland. If that’s not an amazing marketing scheme, I don’t know what it is.

[@nmagain24]

@@FlashPointHx will do. I just happened upon this one while picking up my kids and just let it play. When we came in the house my youngest son (13) just asked "dad whats the name of that podcast we were listening to" i showed him so im expecting youll have yet another sub. Great work. I usually tend to shy away from people talking about European history (it usually gets whitewashed) but I can dig your approach.

[@marykennedy1992]

The defeat of The Saracen at Tours forever changed Western Europe, Amen

[@historianslair4971]

Saracens? Who are Saracens?

[@9xxxxxxxxx]

Sons of Sarah or Moors or Negroes or Mohammadens. There were als Christian Moors and Moors who were not religious.

[@johnhollins8749]

Wow! I did not know that the Moors went into France and stay in Spain for quite some time.

[@FlashPointHx]

Wait till you get to episodes 9,10, & 11 - the Moors where in Spain for 800 years - that’s longer than Spain has been around

[@Existentialist-earthling52]

Do you like Edward Gibbon?

[@FlashPointHx]

I like the way he writes - full of passion and vigor. He's very eloquent. However he does like to interject his opinion where its not needed

[@kevinmcclainsr.853]

Well if it was meant to be a marketing scheme it work! This is what I have been taught in school “seventh grade” that Charles the Hammer of the Franks saved Christendom and stoped the spread of Islam throughout Europe.

[@ragrago]

Good Series Though there is a bit of bias when describing Charles! Unique mind! Are not all minds unique?

[@joemitchell877]

Lost Only His 1st Battle .. That,s Very Very Unique .. No Mention of how Extremely Religious they Were Onward Christian Soldiers .....

[@elwerouno1]

👑RÍOS FAMILY 👑 it refers to the ROYAL HOUSE OF ASTURIAS where the RÍOS👑 last name most likely originated from.👑.

[@jessicasfakeaccount]

this is a little better in terms of presenting a more critical narrative and drawing attention to the unreliability of the sources, but i want to comment a little on the context around the lack of resistance in spain, and the more serious resistance in france, leading to an analysis of the significance of the battle of tours. he split the podcast into two videos, so i'm just posting on the second.

[@jessicasfakeaccount]

you have to understand that spain was a central part of the empire and the visigoths were barbarians; these were german speaking arians with crude customs that the latin-speaking, romanized locals would not have liked much, despite their own transgressions against roman imperialism, when it existed, which was mostly in the northern parts of the peninsula (the southern parts being more romanized). the berbers, on the other hand, were also a romanized people, fighting under the direction of what must have seemed like a new empire. so, how would the average spaniard have really seen the situation? there's a good chance that they may have seen the arab-berber invasion as the empire coming to liberate them from the barbarians. and, as it was in egypt and the levant, that might have been a factor in the ease of the initial conquests. when they got to france, they finally found a different ethno-cultural makeup - a people that were never romanized that were defending their homeland from invasion. if the romanized spaniards saw the caliphate as the return of the empire to save them from the barbarians, the franks would have seen them as a new empire to protect their territory from, as a new hegemon to fight. however you want to look at it, it's clear enough that the muslim armies met their first serious non-greeek resistance in france. for the first time, they met a people unwilling to submit to them. so, they never came back... but, i think that putting it into those terms demonstrates that the muslims would have had a fight on their hands, at least. it's worth remembering that these german tribes were barely christianized, and in many cases not christianized at all. what stood behind martel in the directions of scotland and poland was not "christendom" but a wilderness inhabited by pagan tribes, many of which were soon slaughtered by charlemagne. so, what exactly did martel save? and, the answer is the forces that undid christianity in the end, rather than christianity itself. it's consequently perhaps more worthwhile to suggest that, by preventing the muslim conquest of germany, martel ensured that the process that led to the renaissance, the reformation and the enlightenment was able to take place. but, would the northern barbarians have not resisted arabization as strenuously as they resisted romanization? i see no reason to think they would not have. it follows that what the battle really represented was the muslims hitting the demarcation point of actual roman influence; for the muslims to conquer france would mean bringing new lands into the empire, rather than carrying through with a mop-up operation around the crumbling cities of the late empire. and, it's worth pointing this out: they failed the minute they found an actual, real opponent. i'm consequently coming down somewhere in the middle of the narrative. the battle was clearly a turning point in history, but the reasons for it are perhaps deeper-seated than is often realized, and the muslims had no doubt reached their limits, whether they had to die proving it or not.

[@SamuelHallEngland]

Wow, a real game of thrones!

[@FlashPointHx]

Charlemagne’s rise to power you mean?

[@SamuelHallEngland]

This time period and region in general. It makes the English Medieval period seem very fluid by comparison!

[@hotwheelsindallas-fortwort7932]

We Moors in America have a rich history just like the Moors in Senegal, Mauritania, Morocco, Mali, Algeria, Tunisia and the Philippines...Our empire is still United and so one day will our people be !🇲🇦🇺🇲

[@enriquepascual8767]

Obama and Kamala will command all the moors in battle!

[@tiagomachado9543]

what??? Moors in America? since when? Senegal and Mali are a shit hole. Moors are arabs, come from arabia, and conquer midle east, north africa south italy and iberia.

[@Vllili]

Moors means Muslims, not Berbers or Moroccans.

[@vivicagene2478]

Thoroughly enjoying the information. Stumbled on your videos looking for true history of Spain not one that’s been whitewashed and I’m intrigued

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks for watching! I try to be as unbiased as possible

[@Toto-95]

If Tour resulted in a Moor victory, France would be destabilized and raided more and maybe Toulouse would get annexed but at this point it was overstretched

[@aaronferguson1772]

I feel like that battle was very significant, they Islamic expansion stopped in the north because they were unable to break through Constantinople. they went south and then west because they could. They then took advantage of the weakened visigoths and conquered almost all of Spain. They would have continued north through France if they were not turned back by Charles Martel

[@FlashPointHx]

A lot of people felt this way. After all the conquest of Spain started with a simple invasion and victory over the Visigoth

[@pyrrhus3445]

I wish u can do a series about the Abbasids density and the many scientific achievements in their rule

[@FlashPointHx]

The episode I’m working on now is about the cultural heritage of Al Andalus which was heavily influenced by the Abassids. I will cover a lot of topics - botany, medicine, agriculture, poetry etc.

[@chrismcdonough4024]

I agree that the battle of Poitier was a turning point. If they took "France" they wouldve rolled over rest of Western Europe. I don't think there were any other larger armies/Kingdoms that could've stood up to them if they took France...the "European Xtin" kingdoms would've most likely have to create a united army starting the crusades a few hundred years earlier

[@kylebarton778]

As an armchair historian I do believe that Islam was halted here where it may not otherwise have been. It only takes a generation to make a religious switch. During the 700's, if Islamic armies had broken into mainland Europe, Islam would probably have followed shortly after the jizya.

[@salliegallegos918]

Interesting!

[@briansmith9439]

Good productions. I like that you give a voice to the historians who do not necessarily take up the accepted 'set-piece' version of history. A similar thing happens with the Crusades. In the Muslim world, the Crusades barely warranted a mention in their history texts as it was not important and was just another one of their victories in a long line of them. (Remember the goal was to retake Jerusalem and stop Muslim expansion; instead, Jerusalem stayed in Muslim hands and Islamic forces went on to topple the Byzantine Empire). It was only in the late 18th/early 19th centuries when they became aware of the great importance the West placed on the Crusades, not to mention the fiction they told about it, that Islamic scholars began to include the stories of their triumph in their own history texts.

[@FlashPointHx]

Seems like we are always living with people who want to re-explore the past. The danger is having too much revision

[@NTLuck]

Just to point out that the Abassids were named after the Prophet's uncle Abbas. While Abbas al-Saffah (the blood letter for he massacred so many Ummayad family members) shares the same name, the Caliphate was not named after him.

[@DrFit96]

Actually hashmias weren't shais

[@sss-uo4cm]

Hey, if you want more views I suggest a flashy title like: THE FULL HISTORY OF BATTLE OF TOURS

[@FlashPointHx]

I was going to make a separate video about this. I'm curious why this title would bring in more views - what algorithm does youtube employ that would act more like a hook? Thank you !

[@sss-uo4cm]

it has to do with the alt-right and the other dimwits on youtube. Just search it on youtube and you'll see the number of views corresponding to hot titles.

[@sss-uo4cm]

something else about the Abassids, their namesake is after Abbas Ibn Abi Talib, the uncle of the prophet and thus their claim to legitimacy was being from the prophet's house, unlike the Umayyyads (they were not of persian origin). Another thing, after their succession, they removed the remains of Umayyad rulers and burnt them as vengeance for what they perceived as corrupt rule (except the fifth caliph as he was also related to the second caliph Umar, who happened to be the cousin of Khalid Ibn Al-Walid). There's a lot of controversy with Marawan's succession, as his father was one of the bitter rivals to the prophet and only converted very late. Some say the reason why Hussain was killed at his grandson Yazid's orders was to restore the family's honor as they were aristocrats before their conversion. Some source claim him saying "Now we have taken the honor of our house back from the sons of Muhammad", though that is contested. The Umayyads were generally seen as bad rulers with sole exception of the fifth caliph.

[@FlashPointHx]

This is incredible insight - thank you for sharing. From my reading it seems like there is a lot of controversy about the overthrow of the Umayyad and the rise of the Abassids. I guess to some extent it also depends on whether you ask someone who is Shia v Sunni. While the Abassids were not Persian themselves - it seems that they got a lot of backing from the eastern provinces. And you're right - they had a very bad reputation of governing - with the exception of the 5th caliph who established the line. Of course - history is also written by the victors and in this case the victors were especially belligerent to the image of the House of Umayyah. By the way -- I created a video solely about the Battle of Poitiers / Tours - I'm going to research the best total for the job. Let men know what you think.

[@-meganeura]

Moors went to France but just Tou louse. :D

[@aadilawais4750]

I also agree with your opinion regarding Battle of tours to some degree. After initial successes, moors were not facing a real challenge and they thought to continue in the name of glory. this battle did stop them but i don't think they had the capacity to go on longer even if they had won the battle. Cause we should keep in mind that this was a Muslim minority area, recently captured, with limited manpower, only supported by Moroco province and absolutely no support from the Caliph in the entire campaign, which consisted of various raids that turned into battles and moors won out of nowhere in most of the spain. caliphat actually played a -ive role in this campaign that slowed it down. caliphat was not pleased with leader of moroco to take muslims move so far in EU as it was way way far from the capital. Also the thought of Moors Muslims to create a separate state given their previous history was also worrisome for caliphat. So once they faced a big defeat, they were out of inertia. without further support from moroco province or Caliphat in Damascus, it was not likely for moors to go further. But i believe that other narratives regarding the aftermath of this battle is more popular and acceptable by majority of public cause all feel pride in that narrative. Muslims see half cup full and what they had achieved, while Christians see that as a flash point for Reconquista or as we Muslims remember genocide and colonism.

[@FlashPointHx]

Good insight ! Someone pointed out to me that the invasion of Iberia started off as a raid as well. But I agree, I doubt they would have pushed further. However if the Arabs had won at Constantinople in 717 , then this would have been a very different world

[@aadilawais4750]

@@FlashPointHx Exactly 100%. It was predicted by Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h, when there was a very small Arab state of few cities (before taking Makkah) that Muslims would eventually take Constantinople. plus it was considered to be the world jewel at the time. 1st point was the main reason why Arabs wanted to take Constantinople even before conquering the vast region of Anatolia. Taking this city in 717 could have altered the entire history by 360.

[@aadilawais4750]

This could have ensured a permanent Muslim existence in EU which would in turn could be proven critical in preserving the Muslim states, and their superiority in knowledge of science, literature, art, warfare, and whatnot. Which was destroyed due to many factors including the most important one "the Mongol Invasion of the Muslim world". However, Caliphat capturing the entire EU still doesn't seem very likely. EU was not important at the time, it was very far and could have further weakened the caliphate by having a larger state. Capturing Constantinople could have resulted in the fall of Anatolia and the Balkans before the year 1000. But taking the entire EU would have required very special conditions like 2-5 different strong Muslim states in the eastern (Balkans-Hungary) and western EU (Spain, Portugal), entirely or almost independent from Caliphat. Plus peace and stability in either Muslim Balkans or Spain. A muslim head of state sitting in Asia or Africa could have never captured entire EU. Revolts in the home back would have stopped them among many reasons. The idea that Muslims could have captured the entire EU was created by the church for many reasons including crusades, hatred for Muslims, and expansion plans of EU. Weaken Christian EU and permanent Muslim existence there could have resulted in the absence of Eu colonial times. there would have been many Muslims and Muslim states in the Americas as well. Russia could have looked different and smaller. And the absence of EU colonialism would have also altered the Asia Pacific as well.

[@aadilawais4750]

@paullewis2413 I liked your reply to this video and wanted to share my opinion/response as well. If you like to share further thoughts after reading my response, you are welcome

[@FlashPointHx]

@@aadilawais4750 I’d say that had Constantinople fallen in 717, the forces of the Umayyad caliphate would have stormed Europe. The caliphate at this point thrived on conquest - it needed it to perpetuate further conquest. The Army that arrived at Constantinople in 717 was the premiere force - it was massive. It would have been unstoppable if the city of the Bosporus was their new base of operations

[@TheLoPresti]

In response to your question about the significance of the battle of Poitier, I don't think it was extremely significant I think that like you said its at the end of the campaign season Winter was upon them and they would have probably turned back soon after defeating the army at Poitier. The Moor's would have probably raised for a couple weeks after and done some more plundering. But I think it Did deter some young Muslim commanders from venturing past pyrennees. They were probly happy to have their little kingdoms in Al-Andalus after that the defeat.

[@YogiMcCaw]

I hate to say it, but this sounds like the story of so many other empires. They were great while they were conquering everybody and the riches were flowing, but then came the day when they had to, you know, actually govern all the people they had subjugated. And that's when it all began to fall apart...

[@tetrisgonzo37]

same old story. most of the "empires" united through military authority, fell apart when a person in charge died. Then it all breaks due to infighting as there are many contenders. Warlords were able to conquer, but consolidation of power was beyond their scope. Only states that lasted for centuries even, were based on oligarchy or meritocracy. The power is spread between individuals, most of them agree that it's in their best interest to maintain cohesion.

[@bobmartin9742]

We have to consider that beyond the Pyrinees, the weather is radically different to North Africa. Berebers were very little interest to settle there. For the same reason, the North of Spain was relatively unoccupied. The customs and the diet, were suited for a warm mild climate and they won't last too long on hash winters.

[@FlashPointHx]

Yet they were still able to raid it like crazy - but totally hear what you are saying.

[@squamish4244]

It's a great quote, but Charlemagne never said it :) Also, the sieges of Constantinople were just as important as Poitiers.

[@FlashPointHx]

The siege of 717-718 I think was much more consequential than this battle - but still important

[@squamish4244]

@@FlashPointHx My thoughts as well. It was very hard-fought and the Arabs were operating right next door to their logistical base.

[@KalS-te5md]

The outfits in these old paintings is interesting for the time period. Some still live like in their old ways while others move onto newer ways of living. If Cuba went communist to preserve the culture, they ruin it if the language de-appreciates.

[@MH-ro1lg]

If the Muslims had won against Charles and his battle hardened army, and had retained the wealth within their camp, they would have plundered their way back to Muslim lands to consolidate and plan future campaigns against a weakened and dejected western Europe whose only unifying voice just suffered defeat. I think this battle was enormously important.

[@FlashPointHx]

A very good point - the conquest of Spain began as a raid as well. Hard to say though if the caliphate would have had the ability to take out France

[@youtubeexpert2441]

if the battle of Poitiers was a crucial battle for Arabs they would have surely won it. or at least eventually annexed most of france. but I think the might of the caliphate was too far away to make it a priority. persia, india and the surrounding countries were much more rich and .. nearby.

[@Vllili]

19:57 There is no such thing as a Syrian army. The army was Arab from Arab tribes from the Arabian Peninsula.

[@valentinstoyanov304]

Just a brief note. Before Charles Martel saved Europe from a Muslim invasion, the Bulgarian ruler Tervel did. In 718 the Bulgarian army defeated badly the Arabs who were laying siege to Constantinopole in a very critical moment for the Byzantine empire. I guess Tervel had to choose between saving the unstable Byzantine or having new aggressive and relatively unknown neighbors on a raise...

[@bobmartin9742]

My opinion is the moors couldn't last in France. They were in hostile lands and the Pyrinees block any reinforcement especially in winter. They will just wear down battle after battle until they have to retreat.

[@FlashPointHx]

I share your opinion - but some one astutely pointed out that the conquest of Spain began as a raid as well

[@ishadowscorpioni2852]

I'm three years to late for this but I'm still going to comment on that question about was the battle the saving grace of Christianity. I believe so due to the fact that no more invasions really occurred. The franks showed the muslim and their faith that they were not fighting tribes, but other kingdoms with a strong religion and devotion to that religion meaning they die for that religion. So yes Even if they were at the limit of their supply line they could have just camped somewhere in southern France and then stocked up on supplies before doing another campaign but they didn't.

[@FlashPointHx]

I kind of agree with you - take a look at my most recent vid on the siege of Constantinople in 717 - if the city on the Bosphorus fell, I think that Islam would have taken Europe. Much more significant than Tours IMHO.

[@ishadowscorpioni2852]

@@FlashPointHx I second that. During that time there were people's that believed in their religion (don't know what it was back then) but If I remember correctly they were still split up and tribe like so it would have been tough for them to band together and defeat a well organized military

[@Rayza82]

Awesome stuff again. Another question. Often when you hear these stories of Al-Andus Spain you hear about the new big shots like Moor generals or leaders. You also mentioned Berber and Arab immigrants into the area too which is interesting. But what happened to the common peasant or even middle class Visigoth or Lustaninan in the conquered cities and lands. Were they assimilated into society and did they convert to save their lives? Were they made slaves? Or genocidally killed? Or did they retreat into the North or into France. Maybe you talk more about this later, I am mid-way into all of this. Again, just like you, I ask all of this in quotes. I am not trying to instigate anything making parallels to the present or glorification on either side. Which I can see happening. So I applaud you for tackling such a hot button emotional part of history even though most people don't know the impact that Moorish invasions of Spain and the later Crusades into the Holy Land impact on the world today and different peoples ideologies that have been passed down generations.

[@FlashPointHx]

It was a combination of all things. The Arabs during their conquest, did not usually engage in genocide. But like with any ‘pragmatic’ empire they would eliminate those who stood in their way. Their process usually Involved taking the major city centers and then later taking the more rural areas. The major incentive was either being part of a larger community via conversion or lowering your tax bracket by converting as well. There were not too many reports about forced conversion. The Visigoths would retreat to the north into other parts of Europe. However, the Iberian Peninsula was and always has been a very cosmopolitan area. That’s a during the time of the caliphate in the 11th century it was recorded that approximately 80% of the population was Muslim. When you get to episode six, I talk about the idea of Convivencia - A meaningful coexistence between the three religions under Islamic world. This is an extremely hot topic. I’ve gotten all sorts of good and bad responses on this (all my one star reviews started showing up on iTunes at about this time). There are people alive and well today who still have very polarized views on this. Take a listen to it and let me know what you think.

[@Rayza82]

@@FlashPointHx Interesting. I have heard about other times like in Sicily a coexisting community at times. Even the Mongol Empire where religions co-existed and thrived. It makes me happy when I see that. Because all too often, even to this day, a your either with us or die (maybe not always to that extreme but sometimes) attitude prevails in the global psyche from past events that their particular culture endured in history. And most modern people don't realize the connection to their polarizing thoughts and its origins in what their ancestors went through usually over 200 years ago, usually even longer ago.

[@saeedalwan2540]

We hope to translate the text into Arabic and publish the video in Arabic Thank you❤️

[@daianmata5945]

Thank you very much ! Many Blessings to you and loved ones, in Yahusha Ha Mashiach, 7 letters to the churche of the Ages, his- story.., of all 7 stages , of the 7 churches. THE BOOK OF REVEAL ! Past church Present churches, and the HEREAFTER ,- FUTURE CHURCHES. REPENT, AND ENDURE, OVERCOME, FOR IAM ALWAYS WITH YOU ! AMEIN SHALOM YAHUSHA , WRITES THE 7 LETTERS.

[@corettaha7855]

The last thing revisionists need is encouragement

[@rebel4jesus180]

17:48. The turning point? So the tactic that worked was to attack the camp of the enemy thus attracting the soldiers like, 'Oi, get away from our women!' hmm, I thought the French invented chivalry; sounds like the opposite!