How England and Spain Failed to Destroy Each Other - Early Modern History

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[@chasechristophermurraydola9314]

You guys really rocked my day today.

[@jorgeo4483]

Spain is a civilizing nation, it has never destroyed anything in its entire history that did not deserve to be forgotten. The objective of the Great and Happy Armada was to arm itself in Flanders, because it was unarmed when you found it and of course not to face the elements, unprovoked attacks or the desertion of a strong ally. The objective was to expel Isabel's heresy from our kingdom. Anyway we win this conflict with the London Treaty. By attacking Spain and then initiating a succession of precisely destructive campaigns, looting and piracy, the British not only lost the opportunity to remain in history as honorable, but also to belong to the largest Civilizing Empire in History, the Spanish. Which had all of America. 35.5 million square km, which already exceeds the British, half of Europe, the Portuguese Empire. We arrived before Cook to Australia and other places and although we settled it was not claimed for strategic reasons and we must also add Antarctica, reached and claimed in 1603 by Gabriel of Castilla. If Philip II had had more time, China would also speak Spanish.

[@jorgeo4483]

Spain never wanted to destroy England, in fact our king was king of England and Ireland as well as emperor of the largest Civilizing Empire in the World in history. What he wanted was to depose a heretic who is currently burning in hell from the throne and restore the throne of England to its rightful owner. The English already destroy themselves, always starting with the liver and then the stomach. Give a bottle to a 2-year-old Englishman and he will invent the corkscrew, they have no teeth, give it to a 30-year-old and he will break the bottle, they don't have teeth either, if they do, they are green. Spain did not fail, it went with the Great and Happy Armada fulfilling our sacred obligation in search of the soldiers from Flanders and before arriving, without provocation, it was attacked by the English, with empty and practically unarmed ships in addition to suffering the worst storms of the decade and a cowardly repression on the shipwrecked. Anyway the Treaty of London gave the final victory to Spain. Meanwhile, the English sent a joint fleet larger than the Spanish one to invade Spain, failing miserably even against the civilian population and 60.000 against 3.000 men in Cartagena de Indias in defeats like 98% of those they always had with Spain and some victories because they commanded the French.

[@Maister-ww8dk]

The Anglo-Spanish War wasn't merely a draw, contrary to the portrayal in this documentary; rather, it stood as a resounding victory for Spain. By 1604, the battered English economy could no longer withstand the relentless strain of maritime warfare, leading to the signing of the Treaty of London. England yielded to all Spanish demands: it renounced support for the Dutch rebels, opened the English Channel to Spanish maritime traffic, and put a stop to the activities of privateers in the Atlantic Ocean. Viewed as a defeat by the English themselves at the time, the treaty sparked a failed attempt to overthrow King James I. Consequently, the pirate Sir Walter Raleigh, who had defied both the treaty and the king's orders by persisting in his futile attempts to assault Spanish vessels, faced execution.

[@Absoluteum]

But England remained protestant. So didn't Spain fail her goal?

[@camm8642]

@@Absoluteum I would call it indecisive for both sides....both accomplished some things they wanted but failed at others...

[@johnkenning865]

@@AbsoluteumI think it can be viewed as a victory for Spain overall, but it’s also true that Spain didn’t achieve their maximum goal of overthrowing the Protestant monarchs. We’re so used to framing things in terms of Total Victory (from our overconsumption of WW2 history) that we forget that in most wars, typical victory was framed in terms of who was able to achieve at least the majority of the initial war goals.

[@Theodosius_fan]

@@Absoluteumit wasn’t a total victory for spain

[@juancarlosgarcia7260]

Guerras anglo-españolas en los siglos XIV y XV; victorias española.Guerra de gascuña 1266 contra los ingleses; victoria española.Guerra anglo española 1526-1529 (liga de cognac); victoria española.Guerra de sucesión portuguesa 1580-1583; victoria española.Guerra anglo española 1585-1604; victoria española.Guerra anglo-española dentro de la guerra luso holandesa, 1602; victoria española.Guerra sucesión de julich 1609-1618; victoria española.Guerra anglo-española 1624-1630; victoria española.Guerra de sucesión española; victoria de España borbónica y Francia.Guerra anglo española 1727-1729; victoria española.Guerra de sucesión austriaca contra los británicos, batalla de Cabo Sicié o de Tolón; victoria española.Guerra de asiento 1739-1748; victoria española.Guerra por Malvinas 1770 y Melilla 1774; victoria española.Guerra anglo española 1778-1783; victoria española.Guerra anglo-española 1796-1808; indecisaGuerra de tercera coalición 1803-1806; victoria española.

[@EmisoraRadioPatio]

Alvaro de Bazan was perhaps the greatest admiral at the time, having defeated the Ottomans, French, English, and Portuguese on all occasions--never defeated. If he hadn't died the Spanish Armada could have succeeded. An admiral for 50 years, I don't think Alvaro would have made the boneheaded mistakes Medina de Sidona did.

[@JXJX-gg6qk]

He never faced the Portuguese army, since most of them were imprisoned in Morocco, not to mention whether his victories in the Azores were due to the presence of Portuguese galleons and their sailors in his armada.

[@EmisoraRadioPatio]

@@JXJX-gg6qk He was still vastly outnumbered because England and France sent their fleets to help the Portuguese, and he defeated them.

[@mixindesix]

he was rellly the best, the portuguese were not good soldiers, just explorers, the spanish were both good fighters and explorers @@JXJX-gg6qk

[@almirantevaltjen678]

Almiral of the Ocean, perhaps the best there was at his time, Alvaro Bazán. One nation, Spain vs 2-3 other nations along 2-3 centuries. That is formidable!, outnumbered most of the time by its enemies and yet outstanding the courage, genius, and bravery of those who fought to defend an Empire coveted by the other neighbor nations. By sea or by land they (Spaniards, it's citizens and it's Empire ruled for quiet 3 centuries. No other similar since her mother Rome.

[@ChrisCrossClash]

@@EmisoraRadioPatio He would not have beaten Nelson thats for sure, different times but Nelsen defeated both France and Spain a number of times.

[@bcn1gh7h4wk]

"The English plan was to take Santander, Lisbon, and the Azores" _the English abandon Santander for deeming it too defended, and instead attack the smaller Coruña_ _the English are then ROUTED from Coruña by a force of civilians and some marines_ _the English then decide 'you know what? I think we can still besiege the much larger capital city of Lisbon'_ bruh.

[@rodrigorincongarcia771]

At least taking Lisbon was in the original plan 😁

[@enriquebicho7509]

😂😂😂

[@apptrade]

Today: wages are sinking by 12% Then : wages are sinking

[@jonathanwells223]

suddenly inflation doesn't sound so bad (it's still fucking terrible and entirely avoidable)

[@annatar6453]

Juujjjujub

[@ranua9327]

jajajajaja

[@wasdwasdedsf]

@@Arbelot yea governments and beureucracies will always have a draining effect on their people

[@Rildar]

LOL

[@acdragonrider]

1:13: "Dump his wife." I applaud Charles for defending the interests of his aunt and cousin.

[@TilKenneth]

"Clearly our writer is badly in need of a long-overdue flogging", I appreciated that.

[@martinjacobsen2992]

Plot twist. He is his own writer and enjoys the whip a little to much ;)

[@JulesFaraday22]

It’s a terrifying prospect to think how successful the Spanish armadas would’ve been against England had it not been for the unusually coincidental storms that prevented them from landing to begin with.

[@Cobijadetigre-ix8vt]

If Álvaro de Bazán had lived longer and had led the Navy, the chances of Spanish victory would be much greater.

[@MW_Asura]

England would've been speaking Spanish

[@Tonyx.yt.]

​@@MW_Asurawas not the point 🤡🤡🤡

[@antoniolopezlopez4236]

If Isabel I of England wasnt financing the pirates John Hawkins and Francis Drake, maybe Felipe II would not have sent the armada against England. First both nations got along and the relationships were good, but then Felipe knew about the looting of the mentioned pirates overseas and decided to conquer England, which was a mistake and the armada attack planification was horrible. When England became protestant, the carnage of catholics didnt help to restore the confidecen between both nations. The hunt of catholics in England was a complete bloodbath, and they were tortured/slaughtered in all possible cruel ways. For example, the british museum is built on the ruins of an old catholic monastery after the "disolution" decree instated by Enrique VIII in 1536.

[@jesusledesma1509]

@@Cobijadetigre-ix8vt No habría habido invasión de ninguna de la dos maneras. Porque el ejercito de invasión de Alejandro Farnesio no se presento y no se sabe el porque y fue por esa que la Armada volvió para España.

[@TheDarthbinky]

"Lutheran Chickens!" is my new favorite war cry.

[@walnzell9328]

31:46 NEVER try to cross the bridge when you are the defender. The Total War series has taught us this lesson many times.

[@HVLLOW99]

Amen brother

[@jeremyharris9665]

I love the bits of British humor scattered throughout the writing. Very informative and entertaining video!

[@DaveThomaschefinski]

I am not the smartest person int the world but these videos teach me so much. Thank you

[@4CelciusDegree]

I'm a big fan of you sir "Not the smartest person int the world"

[@ggnice6393]

Realmente no me esperaba que tantos ingleses sean objetivos y no traten de manchar la reputación del otro, no como Hollywood :,) que hasta el momento no se ha hecho una película en Honor a la Humanidad refiriéndose a España 🇪🇸

[@lauramartin-bk9nr]

Los ingleses de hoy son en general mucho más ecuánimes que sus abuelos, que tenían un lavado de cerebro supremacista tremendo; venían de ganar la Segunda Guerra Mundial y se creían los mejores en todo y en todo tiempo. Se creían como verdad histórica toda la propaganda contra España desde Henry VIII.

[@jorgeo4483]

Para manchar la reputación inglesa primero tienes que lavarla.

[@mydavidsy6415]

No sé si te sirve, pero en Gladiator se hacen muchas referencias a España y su tradicionalismo militar. Aunque es verdad que más allá de eso no han reconocido nada a España y siempre nos han puesto como los malos, cuando ellos han sido, y de lejos, muchísimo peores.

[@jorgeo4483]

"hecho"

[@jorgeo4483]

@@mydavidsy6415 Si dices peores estás dando por sentado que los españoles fuimos malos, y no hay eso, en ninguna parte. Por cierto, en esa película no hay referencia alguna a la tradición militar española, para empezar no se sitúa en España, en todo caso algunos pasajes discurren en Hispania y el general protagonista por cierto no fue hispano, no nació aquí ni se llamaba así, era un general romano, sí hubo un gladiador llamado Máximo el Hispano, pero no tiene nada que ver con la película.. Ahí que te llevas.

[@mikey7200]

"Nobody expects the Spanish infiltration" at about 35 mins... ::: chef's kiss:::

[@chrisaustin7644]

Many people do not know it, but in the briefly mentioned war of Portuguese succession, the claimant to the Portuguese throne, Prior de Crato, made an agreement with England, in exchange for his help to ascend to the Portuguese throne, he agreed to give England the following things . 5 million gold ducats in exchange for English aid 1 annual tribute of 300,000 ducats The main Portuguese castles and maintain the English garrison, at the expense of the state of Portugal He promised to give 15 payments to the English infantry Allow Lisbon to be looted for 12 days, as long as the lives of the Portuguese and their property were respected, and they were only limited to looting the properties of the Spanish in Portugal. And lastly and most importantly, he handed over Brazil and other Portuguese colonies to England. Basically this guy wanted to turn Portugal into a colony of England, everything was prevented by the defeat of the Portuguese against the Spanish who took possession of Portugal, and best of all, Spain respected Portuguese autonomy.

[@licmir3663]

Just the fact the he’d allow the looting of Lisbon, the CAPITAL of the realm he intended to rule, shows how selfish and careless he was. He was so worried about taking the throne that he didn’t care about the Portuguese he intended to rule. They’d never accept him as their king if Lisbon had been sacked. No wonder he didn’t receive any major support in 1580. It’s quite possible that everyone knew what an a@&#% he was.

[@CarlosRomero-u6h]

@@chrisaustin7644 Nice fellow and nice allies 😂

[@masterplokoon8803]

First of all that is mostly bs it just sounds like Castillian propaganda to justify the hostile conquest of Portugal. Lmao you claim you saved Portugal from our own independence. Well thanks for saving us from our own independence and providing us with one of the darkest periods in our history, how kind of you.😅 And claiming that Spain respected Portugal's autonomy when Philip IV literally tried to end Portugal for good by planning to reduce it to mere province is laughable. At best you can claim Philip II had a semblance of respect for Portugal( his mother was Portuguese, he knew the language and was relatively decent to Portugal. The other two were nothing more than robber barons to Portugal. Plus António enjoyed a lot of suport from the common people initially and many rallied to him however these people had little or no military training and were cut to pieces by the professionak Spanish army. However Portugal was in no position to defend himself against Spain since most of the army and nobility had been killed or captured in Morrocco and most of the remaining nobility was either leaderless or pretty much saw the writing on the wall and submitted to Philip. And the irony is that Spain ended up doing all those things to Portugal and worse. Portugal was pretty much plundered to fund Spanish wars in Europe, while Portuguese posessions were left lightly defended, the army was kept purposefully weak out of fear that it might launch a sucessfull rebellion.

[@masterplokoon8803]

​​@@licmir3663 the OP is just spouting mostly bs. António enjoyed the suport of the common people initially however most of the Portuguese nobility and soldiers were killed or captured in Morrocco so the country was leaderless and defenseless and the remaining nobles saw the writing on the wall and submitted to Philip. António's army if common people had very little military training and was easily crushed by the Spanish army. It was only when he allied himself with protestants that the popular suport began to fade. And Spain didn't respect Portugal at all they pretty much plundered the country to fund all of the Spanish wars in Europe while leaving Portuguese posessions lightly defended and vulnerable to atack.

[@masterplokoon8803]

You literally made 90% of that up. Spain didn't respect Portuguese autonomy, in fact it undermined it for decades and towards the end of Spanish rule in Portugal Philip IV actually tried to end what little autonomy Portugal had left and reduce it to a province. Spain literally did all of the things you claim England wanted to do to Portugal. Except that Spain actually did it worse. Heavily extracting wealth from the country to pay for Spanish wars while Portuguese overseas were undermaned and lost one by one as Spain made sure the Portuguese army was as weak as possible in fear of an uprising. Things got so desperate in Portugal that many people gaslighted themselves into believing and hoping that the fallen king Sebastian would somehow returned and save the country from Spanish ocupation, such was the national trauma of the thing that you claim was good for Portugal. But nice atempt at sneaking a bit of propaganda claiming that Spain "saved" Portugal when it did the oposite.

[@lunadevalencia1]

España no solo estaba en guerra contra Inglaterra, tambien estaba en guerra contra Holanda, Francia, imperio otomano...y algun pais mas.

[@fernandocolladojimenez3801]

Noruega y muchos más básicamente toda Europa y parte de medio Oriente

[@SametFake]

ottomanoooooooo :D

[@lauramartin-bk9nr]

España combatió y derrotó a 32 naciones y pueblos en todo el planeta, desde Samuráis japoneses, a chinos, a Incas y Aztecas e infinidad de tribus amerindias, a suecos, portugueses y venecianos, a piratas argelinos, etc.

[@gman509]

It was also the richest country in Europe and lost a military war against pirates/rogue poor state....

[@lunadevalencia1]

@@gman509 No veas tantas peliculas patrioteras britanicas...es malo para la historia real.

[@juanantoniomarcelinodiaz8272]

There is a fact that no one seems to realize in this repeated Spanish-English war episode. Spain was a power, attacked by pirates financed by England. And the pirates were the terror of the seas. Something like that, like the terrorists of the 16th century. The US usually invades and punishes countries that it accuses of harboring terrorism. Like Afghanistan. By this I mean that the importance of England could not be measured with that of Spain at that time. It is the English who want to give it that importance. When the real battle for world dominance between both countries took place, it was in America. Battle of Cartagena de Indias, Colombia and the two battles for the city of Buenos Aires, Argentina. All three were won by Spain, with Colombia being the worst English defeat in its history.

[@angge4261]

Colombia is doing well, eh? The legacy of the Spanish conquests is fairly ugly. Look at most of South America. The legacy of the Portuguese is less despicable. The Brits, being Protestant, have left far more positive legacies for their former empire's countries and the Commonwealth.

[@juanantoniomarcelinodiaz8272]

@@angge4261 The only legacy of the English is that of the white English, after exterminating the indigenous Americans and the Australian aborigines, whom they described as animals. What about the African Commonwealth countries? They are all poor. And what about South Africa and apartheit, where Gandhi encountered a Nazi society? And, to the horror of horrors, the famines with millions of deaths in Asia, including the Irish famine, with more than a million deaths, in 19th century Europe, the largest genocide in Western Europe, after that of the Jews. It is the responsibility of British Protestants. As an Apache descendant of the great Jerome says: "Where the Spanish were there are Indians, where the English were there are none left. Get informed and stop the Anglo-Protestant propaganda. Sudan, former British colony: Its inhabitants have a very low standard of living in relation to the 196 countries in the GDP per capita ranking. Colombia, former Spanish possession: Colombia's gross domestic product in purchasing power parity ranks fourth in Hispanic America and 28th worldwide. Colombia's nominal GDP is the fourth largest in Hispanic America and ranks 28th worldwide.

[@BedOfNettles]

Seems like cope, you're the one who had to learn English bud xox

[@juanantoniomarcelinodiaz8272]

@@BedOfNettles Traducción google. Prueba y saca tu cerebro del cajón nacionalista en el que vives. (Google Translation. Try to get your brain out of the nationalist box you live in.)

[@jajaiarigaga2842]

​@@angge4261that's because you dont know history when Latin America was under spanish control it was literally the richest place on earth when it wasn't under Spanish control Latin American countries fought against each other while the United States didn't have a civil war until 90 something years after its independence from Britain and then you have former Spanish colonies having Civil wars after just 10 years of existence Latin America isn't poor because of Spain Latin America is poor because of the stupid Civil wars that that happened literally 10 or 15 years in the former Spanish colonies

[@capnstewy55]

Aguilla and Padilla sounds like a delicious entree. Also, it's fun to hear about rain being the great defender of England.

[@Tonyx.yt.]

Sounds like Eel on a pan to me 😂

[@korosuke1788]

Águila does sound lile anguila in Spanish, which means eel.

[@samuelbarros8321]

It would be really cool if you made a big documentary about the 80 years war and the Dutch-Portuguese war

[@zidokthepriest]

Tu pareces português 🧐

[@samuelbarros8321]

@@zidokthepriest vejo que és um indivíduo perspicaz

[@InquisitorXarius]

Philip II got the Kublai Khan Treatment concerning his Armadas

[@EricM-gm5wz]

Wait until you hear about the English Armada…

[@archivesoffantasy5560]

@@EricM-gm5wzOne English armada. Spain sent three against Elizabethan England.

[@jebralian]

The fleet sent by Philip II against England was not defeated by the enemy in combat, but its return trip through the North Sea caused the enterprise to end in disaster.

[@fredbarker9201]

@@EricM-gm5wzYeah the English armada flopped hard, but lesser known is that Spain sent three armadas against Elizabethan England.

[@fredbarker9201]

@@jebralianWell the Battle of Gravelines is what pushed the fleet north, but yes it was in large part a victory decided by weather.

[@al-muwaffaq341]

I always seem to forget that Spain use to be that close to England

[@asdfomfglol]

was stronger

[@oldwine2401]

Whith portuguese armada too, very good portuguese ships in that time , caravelas and NAUS

[@jajaiarigaga2842]

Spain was stronger than England for about 2 centuries then England became more powerful than Spain until the mid 18th century

[@LennyCash777]

Used to be?

[@al-muwaffaq341]

@@LennyCash777Spanish Netherlands

[@KHK001]

Amazing as always! Thanks for your hard work KnG!

[@Reaperdarkhorse]

Wow.. loving the new visuals and presentation. Good JOB Kings and Generals. xx

[@theyellowjesters]

The title feels like such shade to both sides, i love it.

[@walnzell9328]

So often do people talk about the rivalry between England and France, but never about England's second biggest rivalry, the one with Spain. Even before England's split with Catholicism.

[@pedritopedrito_]

XVI-XVIII century: England vs Spain XVIII-XIX century: England vs France

[@Ghost_PM11]

@@pedritopedrito_ XXI century: England vs England

[@MaryBradley-s3s]

@@Ghost_PM11 military rule in Spain

[@alekord15]

Second biggest rivalry? Hmm, i don´t agree, i think that Spain was the 1st rivalry in the history of England.

[@lunadevalencia1]

@@Ghost_PM11 Siglo XV vs XXI Inglaterra vs historia real..

[@mcintoshpc]

5:12 when i say this is the best little bit of narration this channel has put out, i want to emphasize just how well every K&G video is narrated. Outstanding understated delivery

[@mikelnazkauta1317]

"How England and Spain failed to destroy each other" truly is the perfect title for this video.

[@JP-en7cc]

As a Spaniard who knows English people I can confirm we both still exist

[@ranua9327]

Spain has never wanted to destroy England... and England neither, I think... England wanted to steal (pirates) and Spain didn't agree on being robed.

[@xdanbo1859]

@@ranua9327 Spain robbed it from the natives across the Americas. So both the English and the Spanish were pirates.

[@ranua9327]

@@xdanbo1859 oh, please, what a poor excuse

[@xdanbo1859]

@@ranua9327 No excuse poor or otherwise, just stating facts. Both were pirates, robbers and thieves. You are the one stating a moralistic standard here, I just extended it to reflect the reality both sides sucked.

[@porothashawarma2339]

An excellent account of the events that took place . Watching this right after the Hundred Years War and the War of roses 🌹 gives a lot of context and continuity. As usual , keep up the good work K&G

[@Maister-ww8dk]

The Anglo-Spanish War wasn't merely a draw, contrary to the portrayal in this documentary; rather, it stood as a resounding victory for Spain. By 1604, the battered English economy could no longer withstand the relentless strain of maritime warfare, leading to the signing of the Treaty of London. England yielded to all Spanish demands: it renounced support for the Dutch rebels, opened the English Channel to Spanish maritime traffic, and put a stop to the activities of privateers in the Atlantic Ocean. Viewed as a defeat by the English themselves at the time, the treaty sparked a failed attempt to overthrow King James I. Consequently, the pirate Sir Walter Raleigh, who had defied both the treaty and the king's orders by persisting in his futile attempts to assault Spanish vessels, faced execution.

[@1998topornik]

Weather was main villain of this story.

[@simonhoogeveen7213]

again you deliver us a masterpiece

[@treeaboo]

Just a little mistake, at 10:25 the map shows Bournemouth, however the town didn't yet exist at the time (and wouldn't do so until 1810). The largest coastal settlement in the area during this time would've been the town of Poole, a staple port and county corporate, in the large natural harbour a little ways to the West.

[@michaelaleman8421]

Missed the lose of England on the invasión of Cartagena de Indias in coast of Nueva Granda - América

[@KingsandGenerals]

separate video on that

[@dennis771]

That was 150 years later

[@franciscovelasco5422]

The most notorious addition was the Duran Duran joke

[@axelfiraxa]

When playing Europa Universalis i always thought ship attrition was ridiculous and bad game dev design. After watching this i realize i had no idea about the logistics and the game is actually quite friendly with the player

[@chezburger1781]

Such a cool documentary! Quick question will the remastered Diadochi wars end at ipsus or keep talking about the Diadochi in the decades after?

[@KingsandGenerals]

The aftermath will be covered in the remastered version.

[@chezburger1781]

@@KingsandGenerals thanks! Also I think the Navy of Henry V would be an interesting opportunity, he effectively founded the Royal Navy long before Henry viii with all he did.

[@okanerdogn0]

Greetings to Spain 🇹🇷❤️🇪🇸

[@HVLLOW99]

The 6:06 1500s were great for both civs 🇪🇸🇹🇷

[@vgrg7841]

The Spanish had very good military leaders and military. They really were during their hey day the best.

[@ChrisCrossClash]

And the British were the best in there heyday.

[@vgrg7841]

@@ChrisCrossClash yes, both Spain and England wyrd the best in their own eras/heydays. 👍

[@lunadevalencia1]

@@vgrg7841 tendrian que pasar 200 años para eso....

[@deeznutz57]

Now both are weak. Spain way worse off tho

[@robzsarmy5471]

@@deeznutz57 the UK are the 6th strongest nation in the world hardly weak just not a super power anymore

[@doyouevenpraise189]

Cool, we need more stuff from this time period.

[@Bringmeoneofthosechickens]

From the Americas to see how they we're dealing with European powers?

[@doyouevenpraise189]

@@Bringmeoneofthosechickens not really more like the 30 years war

[@Bringmeoneofthosechickens]

@@doyouevenpraise189 There are 1000 videos about Europe. What about Central Asia?

[@doyouevenpraise189]

@@Bringmeoneofthosechickens that cool be nice although I think Central Asia was more active in the victorian age than in the 1500s+

[@Bringmeoneofthosechickens]

@@doyouevenpraise189 So you only care about European history? Nothing for the Inca Empire, Mali Empire, Aztec Empire, Ethiopian Empire etc etc

[@walnzell9328]

I adore how Devin says harquebusiers.

[@Valkanna.Nublet]

No one expects the Spanish infiltration! Nice :)

[@danielbeato6215]

On his raid on Cadiz, Drake destroyed the best barrels for water(the older ones), that inflicted more damage to the campaing than all the other attacks because everything had to be delayed,. Also, new barrels were not able to hold water properly (that's why it got spoiled). Drake knew really well what he was doing in Cadiz. P.S. I love the long videos, thank you so much!

[@RedWolf75]

He died a loser in Panama.

[@jacksontaylor5708]

At one point you said the English could fire each cannon 3 times in an hour and the Spanish once in an hour. Did you mean in a minute, because otherwise that seems too slow to do anything?

[@joknaepkens]

It's neither. In the time period these battles took place ships were able to deliver broadsides every 3 minutes (on average). Field artillery was easier to reload (and thus faster) than ship cannon, where the enclosed space, ropes and pulleys and repositioning of the gun after reloading slowed down the whole process.

[@mamba101]

Considering ships seemed to be able to brush off hundreds of hits, I wonder if naval combat got a bit boring 😂

[@Avatar2312]

@@mamba101 It actually was... in a manner of speaking. Two heavy warships could dish out and soak up 100's of shots without significant damage to the main ship body, if they were just several dozen meters apart. The only more "boring" engagement I can think of might be the battle between the USS Monitor and the USS Virginia, where the ships went at each other for hours unable to overcome their opponents due to their ironclad armour. It was all just smoke and mirrors... eh... cannon thunder.

[@jacksontaylor5708]

@@joknaepkens awesome. Thank you for the clarification!

[@ganado-bo6948]

Pensar que Inglaterra le podía ganar una guerra a España en esa época es irracional, es como pensar que España le pueda ganar una guerra a Inglaterra ahora. La batalla perdida fue culpa del mal tiempo que dañaron mucho barcos e Inglaterra tomó la derrota por causa de la tormenta como propaganda para decir que le ganaron a España

[@abdvs325]

Y como sabes que no era propaganda española decir que la derrota fuera a causa del mal tiempo?

[@yosueth]

@@abdvs325 Porque la historia se registra, España obtuvo todos los beneficios de la guerra, pero no consigueron la dominancia del catolicismos, pero aun así se esmeran en decir en que fue un empate o una victoria de Inglaterra, cuando el mayor beneficiado fue España. Ademas, en cuestión de los barcos, los registros apuntan a que España sufrio mas por el clima que por Inglaterra, Inglaterra derribo menos de 10 barcos, y españa derribo mas de 40. 🤷

[@abdvs325]

@@yosueth No pero como sabes que eso no es propaganda española. La verdad es que no lo sabes. Y tienes un sesgo.

[@yosueth]

@@abdvs325 Porque, si España hubiera perdido, hubiera perdido la gobernancia de los países bajos hispanos (Bélgica y Holanda), además hubiera perdido los derechos de cruzar por el canal de la mancha, y además con la guerra España tuvo más libertad en las indias

[@yosueth]

@@abdvs325 Y eso no es algo que haya hecho solamente España, fue un tratado entre estos dos países, lo único que gano Inglaterra fue la aceptacion del anglicanismo, el cual fue el punto principal de la guerra.

[@andresmora5192]

PThe Royal Navy was defeated multiple times by the Spanish Navy, but History omits it. Francis Drake, was defeated in Veracruz in the battle of San Juan de Ulua in 1568. The Invincible English, invasion fleet sent by Elizabeth I to defeat to the Spanish navy, was defeated by Spain and its navy in 1589. Edward Vernon was defeated in Cartagenas De Indias by Blas de Lezo in 1741. Horacio Nelson, the great victor of Trafalgar, was defeated in Tenerife, Spain, 25 of July of 1797. Before the Royal Navy was the owner of the seas, its predecessor was the Spanish Navy, who dominated the seas and made Spain the first global empire in world history. PLUS ULTRA

[@HVLLOW99]

Portugal, Spain, Netherlands, Britain, America.

[@corvusglaive4804]

Everybody knows this, what are you talking about? 🤔

[@kevindocherty7081]

Very good, thanks v much

[@oneshotme]

I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

[@unionsquaregrassman]

Wheat grains can be eaten after sprouted, they do not need to be milled into flour for bread. If Norris had done that, his men would’ve been better fed.

[@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns]

Being born in the 16th century and having shiploads of farmers onboard, I imagine he knew that. It's the narrator of this vid that lacks that particular piece of knowledge.

[@HolyShitNew]

i love this videos would it be possible to name the literature used for these videos in the video description? im studying history and once in a while i would like to take a look into the information and maybe use it for own works afterwards since these videos always give me interest to do something about the said things aswell

[@EloiFL]

As you can see in this video's thumbnail, Spain and Britain at the time conducted war by physically blasting their core territories into orbit and using them as massive spaceships. They managed enough thrust by channeling their mutual hatred for eachother as a form of energy. Quite amazing and yet commonly unknown historical fact.

[@KingsandGenerals]

truuuuuuuuuuu

[@ricardomartins286]

Brits will always underplay the Portuguese loyalty to the Windsor treaty

[@ericaarcadia7178]

"As he had some knowledge of a certain skill called Strategy" LOL

[@Tenvalmestr]

If I may, even if it's not much. On the map at 7:40, you show some cities in France. Lorient wasn't founded then (founded in 1666). It's "easy" (if you know its background) to be aware of because the city was founded to receive the trade from Asia, hence the name (L'orient = the East).

[@Shaheen164]

I love how they are always declining politely 😂

[@blackrider2323]

Fantastic video, as usual! Very entertaining and educational

[@DrKarmo]

Great video, y'all! I've heard about the Spanish disaster but i didn't know the english had also tried and failed multiple times. It was a pretty balanced war, both sides got big wins and big losses!

[@mqdboy9278]

Remember that Spain was fighting wars on all sides, the French, the Dutch, the Ottomans, the Moors, the Barbary pirates, some German states. That's why Spain was in an economic deficit most of the time, it had territories everywhere in Europe. Once the Bourbons came and Spain left her European lands, Spain had an economic boom, and it recovered from many years of conflict.

[@almirantevaltjen678]

There hasn't been a nation in europe that lasted and struggled for such a long time (almost 3 centuries) defending its territories against so many other nations with different battle front simultaneously. That is really formidable!They might be overlooked by today's historians particularly influenced by disinformation but there still much to read about the Spanish Empire and not only its negative deeds but also its many good achievements.

[@DrKarmo]

@@almirantevaltjen678 I'd say austria was close to it, they faced some of the same problems but in different ways, the reality is, while spain faced more enemies, they eventually lost it all, whereas it took an entire world war to finish off the habsburgs completely

[@almirantevaltjen678]

They count as part of the Spanish Empire as well, the house of the habsburg Carlos V etc... all interlinked to Spaniards as well.

[@mqdboy9278]

@@DrKarmo Spain was also overburdened with European territories, when the Bourbons came to power and they ceded the Spanish Netherlands and Spanish Italy, Spain could properly focus on building up trade between itself and her American Viceroyalties.

[@jbaliak]

Why do you hide what happened in 1595? The Spanish Raid on West Cornwall - In July 1595, Spanish soldiers landed in West Cornwall and attacked the settlements of Mousehole, Paul, Penzance and Newlyn. The attack was part of the conflict between Catholic Spain and Protestant England. - It was decided to organize a punitive expedition for the help of the English to France and on July 26, 1595, four galleys sailed from Blavet with four hundred soldiers from Don Juan de Águila's third (three companies) commanded by Don Carlos, his captain. of Amésquita (called Amézola by the historian Fernández Duro).

[@otiswhitt1129]

This sounds fascinating, don’t suppose you could recommend any books I could have a gander at ?

[@EmisoraRadioPatio]

Yeah it's weird they didn't mention it. When word spread the Spaniards landed in Cornwall the English militias fled without much of a fight.

[@EmisoraRadioPatio]

@@kets4443 They were just raids

[@HasanLala-pd2eg]

Can you make a video about ghurids and battles of Tarain 🙏

[@shelv9538]

This is brilliant as always! I hope you'll consider doing a video on the Franco-Spanish War in the future.

[@davidsurtees4439]

RIP durran durran bass player lol 1:12:10

[@danielgarciaarnaiz]

Gracias desde España / Thank you from Spain A really interesting video and non-partisan. Only history, without Pink or Black Legend. I really enjoy your content, let's go, I hope to watch other documentary about the 80 Years War!

[@Daniel34595]

Spain won the euro 🇪🇸

[@aleromcas83]

Jajajaja

[@Guyfromnorthenengland]

And you didn’t, Argentinian

[@HVLLOW99]

​@@Guyfromnorthenengland They won the Copa though. I was rooting for Colombia though.

[@HVLLOW99]

VAMOS 🇪🇸2-1🇬🇧 🏆✨️🇪🇺

[@Guyfromnorthenengland]

@@HVLLOW99 i dont like football but ok i guess

[@camilo12ish]

Can someone experienced in sailing please explain to me why weather was so deadly and obnoxious at this point in history compared to much later in the early 1700s and on?

[@abrahamsilva7566]

There are more important Spanish victories missing that are not mentioned in detail in the video, the Drake Hawkings Expedition of 1595 - 96 Where both generals died , Almeria 1591, Atacames 1594 etc... In this video, a lot of emphasis is placed on the Spanish armadas, but little emphasis is placed on or attempts are made to soften the English defeats, which in any case were equal to or worse than the Spanish ones.

[@kermitbuns]

Question. What's the source for the rate of fire of the cannons on Spanish and English ships respectively (3-4 shots per gun per hour for UK and 1 shot per cannon per hour for Spain)? That seems incredibly slow, was really surprising to me. Thanks in advance!

[@KingsandGenerals]

John Barratt - Armada 1588

[@kermitbuns]

@@KingsandGenerals thank you! Curious nerds wants to know, did they fire slowly because they took that long to actually reload? Or was the rate of fire driven more by not having enough crew to man every gun? Or alternatively, was there an issue with the guns needing to cool down before they could be reloaded?

[@KingsandGenerals]

Sorry, not an expert. :-)

[@suikamanti]

most people fail to realize the juggernaut that the Spanish Empire was at this time. not only in resources but also in technology and in the quality and quantity of troops and ships. A stalemate was, in the most essential ways, a victory for the little English Kingdom

[@Tago-h1b]

Accepting all the Spanish conditions except one, the religious one, no one halfway intelligent would consider it an stalemate. England survived, it is the least it aspired to.

[@LeSethX]

Amazing, I think myself a well studied student of history, and yet I had not heard of most of these counter invasions. I thought it was essentially just the (first) Spanish Armada, then English privateering and a occasional pitched naval battles.

[@lunadevalencia1]

La culpa la tiene el sistema de enseñanza britanico, que solo os cuentan las grandes victorias....y pasan olimpicamente de las derrotas.

[@rb98769]

Most portrayals of these events just end it at the failed Spanish invasion and act like the whole thing was an English victory.

[@CarlosRomero-u6h]

@@LeSethX Go back to 1380 and Google Castille in the 100year war for another precursor episode of the anglo-spanish rivalry.

[@GustavoLeBrech-g4b]

Spain not failed , Spain win the war and the treaty of peace of 1604 agree this point.

[@danielneal264]

"A certain skill called 'strategy'"

[@Aeyis537]

in fact it was not a status quo... This is anglo propaganda. Spain won this war. Spain and England did sign the "treaty of London" at the end of this war, which was much more to the advantage of Spain than the English! The Spanish did not achieve all their goals, but a large part of the targeted goals were achieved! Moreover the defeat of Drake's counter armada was much more important than the defeat of the "invincible armada" because the Spanish very quickly rebuilt several other armadas. Despite what some silly propaganda movies like "Elizabeth the Golden Age" say, Spain continued to be the leading power, while England had to recover from this war and was a second-tier power. the Spanish Golden Age continued for over 1 century After first armada fail.

[@coffman1809]

As always, brilliant presentation!

[@FiNaLyyyy]

Please We Need More Of These Long Documentaries 1 Every 2 Weeks At Least To Fill The Gap Of The Days Without Your Videos... I Became Addicted To Eat Dinner While Watching Your Work & Stories ❤

[@Javier-f9d]

This title is a way like any other to avoid saying spain won this war.

[@jlvfr]

Armadagedon... Duran Duran jokes... you guys need a vacation. :D :D ;)

[@Gecko....]

Francis Drake is the most important English commander of all time imo. Closely followed by Wellington and Nelson.

[@jajaiarigaga2842]

And then got beat by a Spanish women

[@rauidk2786]

Don Álvaro de Bazán, Don Blass de Lezo, el Gran Capitán, el Duque de Alba>>>>>>

[@vatsal7640]

​​@@jajaiarigaga2842the Spanish also got beat up a woman , her name was elizabeth.

[@vatsal7640]

​​@@rauidk2786Horatio Nelson, Thomas Cochrane, John Jervis, Robert blake >>>>>>>>

[@rauidk2786]

@@vatsal7640 Juan de Austria, Bernardo de Gálvez, Pedro de Cevallos, Blas de Lezo, Álvaro de Bazán 💀>>>>>>>>

[@VforVanish]

Great video. Now a question for my fellow brits. Is it true that the counter armada is not studied in history classes there?

[@garbancitolentejas486]

1585-1604 War is not studied neither England or Spain... England was defeated. I understand that it is not studied. But Spain emerged victorious and it is not studied either.

[@soluxis6953]

This is true, from my experience. We covered the defeat of the armada and the attack by Drake on Cadiz, but the counter-armada isn't covered. I guess that, since it was amplified for generations as a great British victory, the exploits of Drake are more prominent in the cultural history of the UK. I've always thought the curriculum was a bit jingoistic when I was at school.

[@JaredBarney-m1s]

8:54 I'm probably misunderstanding but 1 shot per gun per hour seems incredibly slow. Most of the research I've seen seems to suggest artillery from that time period could fire close to around 20 shots per hour per gun. Is there a reason it took the Spanish an hour to load each artillery piece or am I misunderstanding what that statistic is saying?

[@KingsandGenerals]

Our research showed that the naval cannons were a relatively new addition and they were very difficult to reload, since you had to unhook them, then reload, then hook up again.

[@sidp5381]

Elizabeth dies in 1603 btw

[@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569]

This video was very informative and interesting. I watched it the whole way through and it didn’t even felt like it was long despite it being over one hour long. Could you please do a video about the Second Sino-Japanese War?

[@Doubt_Cast]

No one expects the Spanish infiltration. Classic

[@markusmaximus629]

What a story!

[@jacksonmyers9618]

“Nobody expected the Spanish infiltration” made me chuckle

[@420JackG]

Utterly shitting the bed in every facet of campaigning and then making up a guy who blew it all for you for a bottle of whiskey is so cool.

[@avidplanes]

At least 70% of ships were named revenge something

[@rb98769]

These people were salty af lol

[@sharingiscaring1952]

​@@rb98769you again! You seem like the salty person here.

[@CM-bi6oy]

Be nice to have a treatment of the Dutch rebellion that became intertwined with the Anglo-Spanish War, as well as the succession war in France.

[@chrisoulalakkas7935]

Your brain like other organs has a job to do. Don’t eat for a long time, your stomach will make noises, just doing its job. If your brain doesn't have work to focus on, it worries about problems that don't exist. Focus on success. Put your powerful mind to work.

[@GranSinderesis]

Which problem doesn't exist?

[@spacecats2185]

whats the music at 8:15? really wanna know

[@4CelciusDegree]

Wtf is that thumbnail map? Where's my Portugal?😂

[@LennyCash777]

It's there, it's just out of place.

[@user-epichistory]

Great historical account. History in general is interesting.

[@kkupsky6321]

Hahahaha. This one is full of cheeky jokes. Awesome. Ausgezeichnet.

[@kelthuzad226]

why I am thinking constantly about anjin-san from the tv show shogun when I watch this documentary haha

[@jackshaftoe1715]

Armadagedon ? Did I really just hear that ?😂

[@fasciolittorio]

I miss Drake and Hawkins Expedition of 1595

[@tofuchicken2]

The Russians have 'general winter', the English have 'admiral shitty weather'

[@rafaellouro2144]

The skeleton crew of the fireships, did they "kamikazed" themselfs or did they jump seconds before impact?

[@stepanrusinko2456]

Thank you for this great documentary! We learn at school(and some youtube videos share that narrative too) about how the English valiantly destroyed whole Spanish armada with their fire ships and defeated rest of the Spanish army on land. But we can see the reality is much more mundane, as storms with diseases are responsible for VAST majority of Iberian losses. The catholics even seem heroic compared to the English, who were mostly looking at undefended ports and ships to loot.

[@Gloriaimperial1]

British propaganda is very strong. But after a British victory there was always a great Spanish victory that many people don't know about. 1588. The English sink 6 ships of the Spanish Navy in battle, the rest due to storms. It was a disaster, yes. 1589. Spain destroys 60-80 ships of Drake's invincible English fleet. Elisabeth condemns Drake to be a lighthouse keeper. In that war the English finally withdrew from the Netherlands and sued for peace in 1604. - - - 1739. British Admiral Vernon attacks Portobello, Panama (a street in London now) 1741. Blas de Lezo defeats Vernon in Cartagena de Indias, Colombia, sinking 50 ships. That is why there are 335 million Spanish speakers in the Caribbean and North America. - - - 1756-63. The British win the 7 Years' War. Spain receives French Louisiana as French compensation for the alliance. 1779-82. Spain attacks and defeats the British, attacking from Louisiana. A Spanish fleet blockades the United Kingdom, capturing two British fleets of 24 and 55 ships. Collapse of the London stock market. Spain gives the silver real or Spanish dollar to the USA - - - 1805. The British win the Battle of Trafalgar, sinking 11 Spanish and 13 French ships. The United Kingdom is saved from the Spanish-French invasion. 1806-07. Spain defeats the British in Argentina and Uruguay, capturing the redcoats and British generals. Thanks to that victory there are 150 million Spanish speakers in southern Latin America.

[@Necrotic99]

I think you meant rounds per minute, not rounds per hour. 8:55

[@KingsandGenerals]

Sources are claiming it was per hour. Apparently only by the Napoleonic times, we have reached the per minute marker.

[@Necrotic99]

@@KingsandGenerals I looked it up some more and although there is some conflicting accounts (I guess from developing tactics at the time), the focus was on fixed emplacements with bigger guns faced forward. They would then go in, engage with the front guns, rotate to allow the others and then backed off. Seems then they would reload often from the outside of the ship which is just nuts in my view. That would explain the slow reload, as its not a continuous broadside to broadside engagement. The main focus was on boarding, the cannons were mostly to disable or soften them.

[@mixindesix]

its interesting to see how the narrator is quite biased towards the british version of the war

[@qwertyTassadar]

Was about to write the same thing. Quite biased but in a careful manner. When he mentions the inquisition and the Lutheran Chickens part (So English and Protestant side bias). Still really good documentary, but ofc needs to be taken with a grain of salt when it comes to Kings And Generals. For me is Entertainment, if I want something serious (and closer to truth) I go and read academic papers or books.

[@stepanrusinko2456]

@@qwertyTassadar This still seemed to me as the least protestant-biased video I watched on this conflict.

[@LJ2K3]

I´m spaniard and I consider kings and generals the most unbiased youtuber on this topic. I´m not an expert so maybe I´m wrong.

[@rb98769]

@@stepanrusinko2456 Yeah, this war always has a huge pro-English bias in almost all portrayals. This channel did a great job.

[@MW_Asura]

I've seen way worse. From what I've seen from the video, Kings and Generals seemed quite unbiased

[@christopherbell9838]

What do you use to make the animations?

[@KingsandGenerals]

After Effects

[@ThorDog16]

Armadageddon 😂

[@JH_789]

Just fyi, every time you say 'Norris' I am wondering how differently this would have gone if chuck was there.