I just want to know truth. Sadly I am most assuredly blessed or cursed with a failure of intellect. I listen to this channel, Joe, Graham, Lex, etc. Today I was exposed to a dig I never heard of, Ohalo II, a 23K year old hunter gatherer site, who were into agriculture. Your field is undergoing a fantastic earthquake of change. I’m 80, I’ve learned to keep my perspectives open. Basically I don’t really know anything.
@jps1015746 ай бұрын
I disagree. You know that you know nothing. You are ahead of most people who don't even know that.
@Curt-r9d6 ай бұрын
Archeologists know what they were told in school. That changes often.
@3Kiwiana6 ай бұрын
We have been lied to my friend like you wouldn’t believe Mainstream archaeology gives you what they want you to think, but upon a small amount of research we start to see what’s going on. Keep an open mind .
@skeeterskoville92266 ай бұрын
I do know this…the more I learn, the more I realize how much I don’t know. If we knew the truth of our entire history, our heads would explode! I just try to soak up as much as I can.
@robertmortimer82886 ай бұрын
Of course we don't know everything and should have an open scientific mind. Just like other areas like medicine, History/Archeology should be open to new knowledge and research that more and be willing to change. Otherwise if medicine wouldn't be openminded to change, doctors would still blood let people to restore the 4 elements and people would die rather than be cured.
@feebieloo6 ай бұрын
Thank you Kayleigh SO much for keeping this channel open to new ideas, but not so much that it goes into insane conspiracy theory territory. I appreciate your channel so much. It's so informative, I've learned so much from your videos! I'd rather learn the truth of our history than be manipulated by grifters who use harmful ideology to spread misinformation.
@russellmillar71326 ай бұрын
Great follow-up interview. After watching this "historic debate" I was certain there would be ripples felt in the realm of the archeo-interested. I have been curious, after having read Hancock's "Fingerprints of the Gods" in the '90s and watching interviews, lectures etc, whether he would ever have his claims/assertions/hypotheses challenged publicly. I actually learned a few things from Dr. Dibble's presentation. I learned from GH that he is convinced that the lost civilization cleverly built their cities, seaports, and transportation infrastructure only in places where archaeologists haven't looked yet.
@willvance73266 ай бұрын
Or, are they in places we have discovered that were re-purposed? That’s a perfect explanation why Andean sites get dated by the mortar and fibers between the small stones sitting on top of giant blocks that fit together without mortar. Kind of hard to date that, and serves the purpose. We do have plenty of evidence that suggests our picture and understanding is very incomplete, and again, nobody disputes a slow restart. The claim is that this has happened once before at least already.
@russellmillar71326 ай бұрын
@@willvance7326 The smaller stone you speak of were the work of the Peruvian government to ready the site for tourism. The larger stones did have mortar, just not so it can be seen. The assertion that the Inca were incapable of doing the work, and that some as yet unknown culture really built it is alt-history dogma. "Repurposed"? "Perfect explanation?"
@amousanon.6 ай бұрын
Kayleigh I love your videos, so much!!! I commend you for this interview and exploring other areas of your path. Even Dibble was better here than he was, although I enjoyed the JRe debate as well, but Dibble presented so narrow minded, and admitted his expertise is focused on seeds, plants, food, yet he refuses to acknowledge that the lost civilization hypothesis may be a simultaneously occuring to hos truths.
@guyman15706 ай бұрын
Keep in mind... Graham Hancock is a crook, grifter, and very much a disingenuous "seeker of truth" who is actually just more interesting in dumping on real archeology and spin yarn of wild tales of the "Younger Dryas Impact flooding" which is actually only 18 inches per century at its fastest rate.
@whansandceros6 ай бұрын
Really appreciated the 'debate' and this follow-up. I was a big fan of AA and also Graham's theories but it felt good to get brought back down to earth. I think aside from some personal mud spittle it was a respectful encounter.
@djparn0076 ай бұрын
This was great. Thank you, Kayleigh. ❤❤❤❤
@hyperionzii588923 күн бұрын
Horrible video backing a lair. Shes a joke.
@agingerbeard6 ай бұрын
This is some of the best content on KZbin, I am always interested in your thoughts because you operate from such a place of balance and respect. Thanks Kayleigh and Flint! 💙
@charlessoulliard98446 ай бұрын
I think flint did a good job on the podcast . I have been fascinated with trying to look into the past my whole life . I love absorbing as much information as I can .
@ianbrewster89346 ай бұрын
That was awesome, that's amazing you got to interview him so quickly 🙂 love your channel
@js703716 ай бұрын
Oh wow!! This is the longest video I’ve seen you put out yet - can’t wait!! 🙏
@Mistertwist.6 ай бұрын
I love this channel!!!!!!!!
@katinapac-baez50836 ай бұрын
Great interview Kayleigh. I'm so glad Dibble went onto the Joe Rogan podcast to counter Graham's claims. It's good to see reality pushing back on misinformation.
@andrewblackard33696 ай бұрын
And logic pushing back on illogic. One of the biggest fallacies that I hear alt people commit is akin to the "Russell's Teacup" logical fallacy. The explanation of that fallacy is that the philosopher Bertrand Russell could claim that there was a teacup in geosynchronous orbit above his head his entire life. And if you could not disprove the claim, then he must be correct. I'm sure you know several reasons why that argument is invalid, but unfortanately, many many people think this way. :)
@BigTimeRushFan21126 ай бұрын
ironic, going on a misinformation platform to fight misinformation, sadly most of Rogan's audience would rather suckle at the conspiracy theory teet than here truth.
@theaviator066 ай бұрын
How does that pfizer boot taste?
@jmf52466 ай бұрын
Misinformation like Keynsian economics? Inflation isnt caused by printing money. Rogan had had Roger Penrose and leading physicists and astronomers. Rogan’s show is educational
@BigTimeRushFan21126 ай бұрын
@@jmf5246 says the guy who probably thinks QAnon is educational...
@georgesparks78332 ай бұрын
Great podcast! I really enjoyed it. Thanks for your time and effort in putting this together.😊
@Gunslinga136 ай бұрын
As it looks, Graham Hancock's work really hooked up a lot of people into these topics, myself included. I was in his bandwagon at first, but I wanted to find out as much information as I could, and I have to say that fairly quickly I left some of his ideas and started following the serious archaeology, which as Flint says is A LOT. So I can thank Graham for lighting the fire, and as it seems this is true for a lot of people, he has his role in the scheme of things. Of course, imagination is a wonderful thing, and one shouldn't abandon it all together, but fantasy is one thing, and reality is other.
@Manbearpig44566 ай бұрын
The reality is flint lied about his evidence and Hancocks is a theory. Not a great look for archaeologists to send someone on to tell lies
@axel1957ll6 ай бұрын
Great video. I’m half way through flints video. I happy he went on Rogans program. A lot of pseudo scientists watch Rogan. They need to see real science
@garymaidman6256 ай бұрын
Love or hate Joe Rogan, you have to credit him for facilitating this.
@axel1957ll6 ай бұрын
@@garymaidman625 yes rogon surprised me. Maybe I need ti watch his show more
@garymaidman6256 ай бұрын
@@axel1957ll Dibble isn't the only scientist he has on. He has quite a lot of scientists on. When I had more time and inclination, I used to watch it quite a bit. He has a palaeontologist on, who I didn't particularly like, I thought he was a bit of a jerk, as well as an evolutionary biologist, a mathematician, among others. He is quite open minded.
@smitinathan6 ай бұрын
This was a super interesting chat! Love the point about history constantly being re-written.
@HistoryWithKayleigh6 ай бұрын
Thank you 😁😁
@Manbearpig44566 ай бұрын
@@HistoryWithKayleigh What’s your thoughts on flint lying about the ice core data that shows spikes in lead going back tens of thousands of years. What’s your thoughts on flint lying about the evidence we have of plants being domesticated returned to the wild to then be domesticated again? Why do you think flint felt the need to lie about so much of the data?
@Ms.AislingsASMR6 ай бұрын
What an excellent piece! Follow the science and expect the joy of discovery. Money cannot buy that kind of experience. Knowledge is free for all those who seek it. Thank you Kayleigh and Flint!
@jasonmckay87935 ай бұрын
Yeh lets follow the science lol a completly amoral venture thats has already led us to the brink of extinction sounds like a great idea.
@bellafemedia6 ай бұрын
Thank you, Flint and Kayleigh. I think it’s vital that people like Flint take the time out to debate pseudoscientists is because so many people who become true fans of archaeology come from fans of people like Graham Hancock. I myself was enthralled by Chariots of the Gods as a kid and further inspired by the fictional movies of Indiana Jones. That’s omething I have in common with many archaeologists of my generation. Though I didn’t get a degree in archaeology or anthropology I was enthralled by the same fantastic theories, but became even more impassioned by the true teamwork of science, and the ownership it restored to humanity by its discoveries. Many people who came for Graham’s fanciful ideas, will now go on to appreciate the science of Flint’s and his colleagues research. Again, thank you both.
@raldyg77806 ай бұрын
I don’t necessarily agree with most of Hancocks opinions, but I enjoy his work. It’s thought provoking. So I appreciate Dibble going on rogan and explaining the opposing position. He made it easy to understand and digest. I still have questions about the black mat layer from the ydih and the precision in the stone vases measured by Van Kyrkwyk
@JT-el2kg6 ай бұрын
Kayleigh. I admire your intellectual curiosity. All the highly intelligent people i know are self taught. This is great content. Everything you do is great content. I hope you read this. You have more fans than trolls. I am unable to become a member due to financial struggle. I am the working poor living in Appalachia USA. YOU ARE THE HIGHLIGHT of my week when you upload your conent. Stay courious.
@ethanwilliam99446 ай бұрын
I watched the episode and at times it seemed like Joe and Graham were ganging up on him and he had to prove his points more than Graham. I had already had my doubts about Graham's theories and it was nice to have a professional, knowledgeable archeologist challenge him with hard facts. It was a great discussion and I commend them both for doing it and thank Joe for facilitating it. Hopefully they will do it again as there is so much to talk about.
@RandallDibble6 ай бұрын
Glad to see da Cusin of Mine ! Keep up da Good Work.... !!
@hyperionzii588923 күн бұрын
Your cuz is a lair. He lied in order to look like he won that debate. What a scumbag. He is no real archeologist. He's an activist.
@stanley5266 ай бұрын
Great conversation. Kepp up the colabs.
@vexingcat98136 ай бұрын
Great interview. I love the level of enthusiasm shown. It's a good trait. Tempering that enthusiasm a bit and allowing the guest to finish more sentences might be great as well. It might help keep the conversation focused on one idea at a time.
@jimbusmaximus46246 ай бұрын
I just don't care for drama and I loathe politics. I'm of the firm mind that one should follow evidence instead of ideas. That's why I'm drawn to History with Kayleigh. No bullshit. Just evidence, logic, and reason.
@3Kiwiana6 ай бұрын
Omg no evidence no logic and no reason, you’ve got to be joking. Just pure political correctness.
@scottie556 ай бұрын
@@3Kiwiana Then why are you here denigrating other peoples work?
@Manbearpig44566 ай бұрын
Why did flint lie about the data?
@3Kiwiana6 ай бұрын
@@scottie55 I’m here for truth nothing worse than political correctness distorting truth
@scottie556 ай бұрын
@@3Kiwiana So you are someone who carries on about political correctness, but don't give informed examples or alternative views. I guess that's why nobody seems to take your opinions seriously.
@jimmmosher6 ай бұрын
This was AWESOME!!!!
@krazikofiman6 ай бұрын
Glad I listened all the way through.
@drewrust13026 ай бұрын
I'm so glad to see Flint getting the recognition he deserves for going into the lion's den and coming out looking like a rockstar. He brought facts and logic to the debate, and Graham brought feelings and the "but you haven't checked EVERYWHERE!" claim.
@3Kiwiana6 ай бұрын
I disagree flint has his ideas and is not open minded, so does not stack up as being credible.
@weedfreer6 ай бұрын
@@3Kiwiana so, a guy devotes his life to seeking out an accumulating evidence, evidence with which he has the ability to run the entire spectrum of scientific analysis to obtain a deeper understanding as to what he is seeing, along the way, collecting an entire catalogue of proofs which he can say without a doubt for sure point towards certain sets of circumstances, and, you can literally lob sh*te over the top because he's "close minded" without having a single shread of evidence to back up your position other than a personal feelin, and, that makes you the authority on the subject then? Sureeeeeee
@albert122566 ай бұрын
Thank you Dibble, you just earned a new fan.
@LORDS.And.Hammers5 ай бұрын
This was great. 🤘🏽🤘🏽
@johnirby88476 ай бұрын
I saw this! Can't believe you got an interview! Awesome!
@joesmithii46686 ай бұрын
Amazing interview. Didn't know about him and now I have to go check him out. Also thank you for being a sense of reasoning about how we came to be. Keep it up.
@postalizeMike6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the conversation. Good matchup. I hope we get to learn more from this duo
@davidbrown97846 ай бұрын
kayleigh I didn't want to watch a video this long but i did because your name was in it. good info and you rock as always.
@michaelthomson80656 ай бұрын
Thanks for this episode.Thanks also to Flint Dibble for the light he has shown on the question of ancient advanced civilizations.
@stephenlamley5416 ай бұрын
I was so sure about a ancient civilisation. Too much so. After watching flint and kudos to him for debating Graham I'm not so sure now still more in that camp than not. But I really appreciated flint going and debating Graham. Male egos aside it's quite funny as a man watching 2 men try and better each other. Such a fragile thing the male ego. Trust me I speak from experience. Got to repeat a comment that made me chuckle. He's flint dibble and he dabbles with flint. I loved that comment so much.
@M1ster.Fr3sh6 ай бұрын
The "human" ego, I fixed your typo.
@M1ster.Fr3sh4 ай бұрын
@Felix9lives What a bunch of weird, pseudo-intellectual nerds. Also, Flint lied about the dates of ice core samples, and several other things. He's a loser.
@manuelgomez48366 ай бұрын
Great explanation from Dibble and Kayleigh, thanks.
@TT3TT36 ай бұрын
Thanks Kayleigh!🎉
@sgnightwing6 ай бұрын
awesome interview i watched the rogan interview and was totally in agreement with flints explanations and deciphering of grahams story..thx kaylieh keep up your awesome interests and keep us informed....
@jamesspencer20986 ай бұрын
Debate is healthy and should always be respected! Good Job
@drewharrison64336 ай бұрын
Yes but, debate shouldn't take the place of actual scholarship in our minds. Sometimes, the people who win debates are not correct. They're just better at articulating their view.
@OGPatriot036 ай бұрын
Yes, but calling your opponent racist for no reason isn't.
@drewharrison64336 ай бұрын
@@OGPatriot03 It wasn't for no reason...
@georgeharteman40836 ай бұрын
Thanks Kayleigh, good of you to share this with your network.
@paulhelsby6 ай бұрын
Very well put together and superlatively balanced interview from Kayleigh here, smirked and jollied her way through Flints criticism in joyful tandem, Brushed over the 'white supremacist' allegations like they were never written. A Top lass. A Bastian for balanced, nuanced debate some might say. The milk of human kindness. Hope Kayleigh reflects on this one decades from now and cringes.
@nickchivers90292 ай бұрын
@@paulhelsby hello Graham
@mudgetheexpendable6 ай бұрын
So relieved that scientists are taking on foolishness with facts. Thank you both.
@3Kiwiana6 ай бұрын
What a dumb thing to say, so its foolish because you don’t agree with it. How incredibly narrow minded can you be.
@guncotton19506 ай бұрын
is it not odd how in science facts just keep on changing - perhaps the disclaimer ( as far as we know ) needs to preface so called facts
@exceptionallyaverage30756 ай бұрын
@@3KiwianaWhat a stupid thing to say. Just because you disagree with someone you think it's OK to spew your narrow minded nonsense.
@3Kiwiana6 ай бұрын
@@exceptionallyaverage3075 that’s my line you just stole.
@exceptionallyaverage30756 ай бұрын
@@3Kiwiana Sue me.
@mrchuffy83206 ай бұрын
Very informative and entertaining interview, thanks. Also wanted to add a congratulations to Flint for a difficult job done well.
@hyperionzii58893 ай бұрын
Dont take his bs as facts. Do your research. The work he claims that has been done has not. His graphs are from the wrong time periods. Pure scum.
@EricB-6 ай бұрын
Super fun conversation
@Nothingseen6 ай бұрын
Seeing these thumbnails used for good ignites something in my soul that I thought had long gone out
@MrDubmaster6 ай бұрын
What really made me burst out laughing in the Rogan/Dibble/Hancock debate was when Hancock said "I'm not saying that there was a global advanced civilisation, only that there were a few wise sages who travelled the world spreading knowledge" when he has literally spent the last thirty odd years telling everyone that there was a global advanced civilisation that was wiped out 12,500 years ago. Pure comedy gold and hypocritical grifting at its finest. 🤣😆😄
@dr4d1s6 ай бұрын
I just want to say that Flint Dibble is a fucking badass and has balls of stone to stand-up against Graham, Joe and his audience. If you haven't checked out his KZbin channel you definitely need to!
@bluebird32816 ай бұрын
Joe isn't someone people have to "stand up" to, he is a pretty even-handed guy. The audience is a mixed bag, read the comments, there is not universal agreement with Hancock. Dibble is a great guy for going on and speaking his peace, but it isn't the lion's den you made it sound like. The worst thing Joe probably did was try to give Dibble a big fat joint at the end.
@jamesleyda3656 ай бұрын
Flint is a ....hahahahahaha....sorry🏴☠️ NO WAY!
@kevkongable18 күн бұрын
😂
@edgarsnake28576 ай бұрын
interesting conversation. Thanks Kayleigh. Flint Dibble--best name in show-biz.
@ADVtheMISSIONARY6 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the interview and came away with the opinion that Graham has an ideal in his head with nothing but circumstantial evidence(at best), as where Flint stuck to what has evidence to back it up. I ended up here due to Flint's recommendations for channels
@minimumriffage75206 ай бұрын
Great summary, I don't ever bother with Joe or Graham cuz it's not a "debate" and Joe is not a moderator. One quibble, Koko was mostly responding to prompts and "aping" her handler, not really communicating. Look it up.
@danjager62006 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was going to point that out. The Koko thing has largely been debunked. Other than that, great video.
@strabe306 ай бұрын
I hope they do it again, I think both of them missed a lot of talking points that I wished were discussed.
@theshenpartei6 ай бұрын
Atun shei just dropped a video about the interview.
@TheHighSpaceWizard6 ай бұрын
Another bad take from another person who refuses to look at real science. You want to hear a real take on this debate? Watch Dedunking.
@swirvinbirds197120 күн бұрын
@@TheHighSpaceWizardDan who uses a paper on metal spikes during the last Ice Age to 'Debunk' Dibble while the paper he is using says they are NATURAL? Dan who uses a paper that has nothing to do with a domesticated crop returning to its wild form to 'debunk' Dibble? Meanwhile Rice in Asia has been undergoing de-domestication for over a thousand years. Dan is an electrician who is into the woo.
@stephicohu6 ай бұрын
I like your vid. I need to see JRE podcast to see what Flint Dibble said.
@joshuarenfroe654822 күн бұрын
I bought the same Malta book you have in the background at the giftshop. I had to - it’s too cool
@rschultz94926 ай бұрын
Dibble did fantastic work! Nobody wishes Hancock’s theories were true more than me.... but they aren’t. Can’t argue with logic (and cold facts)
@jb67486 ай бұрын
I don't watch Joe Rogan or anything Graham Hancock, but Flint has intrigued me enough to watch a 4.5hr video to watch him. 😅 Great conversation between you two.
@Manbearpig44566 ай бұрын
It’s mad how many people just bent over and lapped what ever dribbled out of flint. You should probably fact check before you make a muppet out of yourself. Dribble lied about the ice core data failing to mention lead spikes going back tens of thousands of years. He lied about the glyph in the pyramid. He failed to mention that current flows and constant water changes would have made in next to impossible for any ships to preserve during the ice age. They say humans have used boats for 100,000 years but the oldest boat found is 9000 years old yet academics tell us they go back 100,000 years have a wee look into why. Ohh and don’t forget to look up the amount of crops that went extinct during the ice age and the evidence we have for plants being domesticated returned to the wild to then be redomesticated. Or you could just bent over for you next dribble
@Ineffable11116 ай бұрын
Look up Randall Carlson. I also believe it is best to get both sides of a story in order to make a solid opinion. True intelligence is being able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Good work flint I respect you and your work.
@GH-zg2wu6 ай бұрын
Well done Kayleigh and Flint, you are just what the world needs at the moment to fight misinformation. I loved the Joe Rogan ‘debate’ where Flint took Graham to the school he never attended.
@Manbearpig44566 ай бұрын
It’s mad how many people just bent over and lapped what ever dribbled out of flint. You should probably fact check before you make a muppet out of yourself. Dribble lied about the ice core data failing to mention lead spikes going back tens of thousands of years. He lied about the glyph in the pyramid. He failed to mention that current flows and constant water changes would have made in next to impossible for any ships to preserve during the ice age. They say humans have used boats for 100,000 years but the oldest boat found is 9000 years old yet academics tell us they go back 100,000 years have a wee look into why. Ohh and don’t forget to look up the amount of crops that went extinct during the ice age and the evidence we have for plants being domesticated returned to the wild to then be redomesticated. Or you could just bent over for you next dribble
@jimmyfaulkner57466 ай бұрын
Get another booster😂
@GH-zg2wu6 ай бұрын
@@jimmyfaulkner5746 go ‘do your research’ on flat earth
@GH-zg2wu6 ай бұрын
@@jimmyfaulkner5746 go ‘do your research’
@Flashkoch2 ай бұрын
You obviously never went to school either, otherwise you would know that Dibble lied on the JRE several times. About the rice, for example or the carbon dates on the pyramids etc.
@DaboooogA6 ай бұрын
Shout out Flint Dibble for holding it down on JRE
@francischambless59196 ай бұрын
came off as an ass 85% of the time to me, and I really don't care for Graham and most of his assertions.
@suckmymiddlefinger43506 ай бұрын
Came off more arrogant and self-absorbed than what people are saying about Graham
@garymaidman6256 ай бұрын
Shout out to Joe Rogan for facilitating this.
@Pablo9svn85 ай бұрын
@@francischambless5919 well dibble wanted to report on facts graham just wanted to explain that he wasnt racist. Thats not a debate it’s clearing the air. They all came across a bit douchey but thats natural for a situation like that
@francischambless59195 ай бұрын
@@Pablo9svn8 agreed. It's a shame too, because someone like me absolutely loves learning about ancient history and the potential for all the things we still don't know about our past. I certainly don't mind speculation, but if that's being done from the perspective of an educated guess or just an implied, however unlikely possibility, the least you can do is be clear that you are indeed speculating.
@Jaymz0016 ай бұрын
I always wonder how strong tidal forces can effect any wrecks after 5-10k years.
@listenup8016 ай бұрын
We need you on that wall. TY
@sambabisky47426 ай бұрын
It was good to hear your guest as well. Thank you Mr. Dibble.
@sambabisky47426 ай бұрын
Good program Kayleigh.
@catman89656 ай бұрын
MAINSTREAM archeology needs a strong voice to the public. THAT'S WHAT YOU DO VERY WELL KAYLEIGH. 🌻💓💓🎉💘🥂🍾😻💗💝💖🖤❣️💛💚💙
@MLM686 ай бұрын
But like most things the lie is what gets the press.
@noahlogue6 ай бұрын
Good video so far.
@JamesDio-yu5yd6 ай бұрын
Awesome as always, " Kayleigh!!!" cheers!!
@abdool19726 ай бұрын
Oh nice! I was hoping you'd cover this.
@meistarkus5 ай бұрын
I went into the discussion on the side of Graham, but very quickly realised, that he's framing Flint for bullying, when during the discussion, he was actually the one". Flint was very calm. Graham was almost arrogantly laughing at everything Flint said. Also, i'd rather have a slow change in our perspective of history, but well documented and proven with facts, than a rapid rewrite of history wihtout actual proof, but simply built on theories.
@davekellar90496 ай бұрын
Thx for introducing me to Flint Dibble.
@spiritualanarchist81626 ай бұрын
Ironically, Hancock had around ten visits on Joe Rogan where played the victim, complaining to millions of people how he's censored and banned while having his nonsense aired on Netflix . Mr.Dibble had one occasion to 'defend' all academics involved in history . Talk about pressure !
@mootzartdev6 ай бұрын
Hancock never said he's been censored. He said people have attempted to censor him, very very different. You are one of those people who play the victim right here in front of everyone. ' had one occasion to defend all academics' blah blah. That's exactly the same type of nonsense you're complaining about. Its the same mentality as a person complaining about someone else getting attention because they do not get any. Funny how the start of your comment has the word 'ironically'. Academics will always have a place on JRE if they tried. He's not blocking anything, he picks what is interesting to him. So if academics was not such stuck up boring people they may get further in life. (I have also been a academic for a long time so i can say from my experience.. its a area full of snobs and people who actually don't deserve the privilege of the way of life. It collapses because of this attitude seeping into their work. Archaeology will die because they think they know it all already. Why fund a bunch of unexciting know it all's. They should at least talk about possibility and what might be to get people excited about it.
@spiritualanarchist81626 ай бұрын
@@mootzartdev Sure. Try to teach history to kids who are brainwashed by these grifters. Then come back on your high horse, Hancock has been pretending to be the victim for 40 years. Blaming everyone and everything for not getting academic recognition for his fantasies,.
@Myrtlecrack19 күн бұрын
It wasn't a debate, it was Hancock spouting and pouting about being "attacked", it was ridiculous other than Flint's logical communications. Hardly any science involved, not Flint's fault though.
@levisimpson5166 ай бұрын
Was a great "debate" to watch and really enjoyed this interview. I was pleased with how well he seemed to do on there, it's not easy to not only be prepared to talk on so many subjects that Hancock may throw at you, but also to be on there with two guys who are not only friends, but both have plenty of experience speaking to such a massive audience and Dibble kind of being the odd man out there. I was just happy to see someone given a real chance to push back on Hancock's ideas in person, I don't think Graham really made any significant points in his favor, more or less backtracked a bit when faced against someone with real knowledge. For another interesting take on that debate I would recommend checking out Atun-Shei Films video he just posted. He isn't in this field, he is more of a historian by nature and took a different approach in talking about this "Debate" and how scientists can approach dealing with pseudoscience figures. Thanks for this, very well done. :) I love channels like yours, it's not my field, my passions lie in art and illustration but I love being curious about the world and thanks to channels like yours, Flints, and many other science and history channels it's easier than ever to get a lot of good quality information. It's also easy to fall down a wrong hole or two if you're not careful. Haha.
@JohnDiGiovanni-yh6ys6 ай бұрын
I'm guessing by your reaction the guy to the left is a big deal, so congratulations on having him on your show. Thanks again. 👍
@rachelthompson93246 ай бұрын
I read all Gram's books and I was a fan but I left him behind years ago after seeing and reading real scholarship which I will continue to do
@andrewblackard33696 ай бұрын
I have read many of Graham's books too. I really enjoy reading about his research. But, referencing his own research, I often don't reach the same conclusions as he. But it is enjoyable "what if" reading none-the-less.
@Arapaima3966 ай бұрын
Real scholarship? How intuitively intelligent. I need no reciets for your clear and dialectial aproach to your scholarly persuits. Thank you. Please.
@IrvinFontanes6 ай бұрын
The problem with ONLY sticking with 'real scholarship' is the lack of critical thinking with regards to historical events. Graham is brilliant. I wonder if he'd get disrespected the way he does if he'd have an archaeology degree. Using this same logic one can conclude that God doesn't exist.....no one has seen him.... We are so arrogant as a species.
@andrewblackard33696 ай бұрын
@@IrvinFontanes You said: "lack of critical thinking with regards to historical events" Can you give an example?
@andrewblackard33696 ай бұрын
@@IrvinFontanes But also using the same logic one might conclude that 6-legged chartreuse armadillos do not exist. And rightfully one would need at least some evidence to argue that they do.
@victorhugorodriguez7735 ай бұрын
i need to confess, i click on the video for the thumbnail , great interview
@blakeloxtercamp6 ай бұрын
Didn’t know I needed this in my life, but I definitely needed it
@steventhompson3996 ай бұрын
I thought flint did pretty good, raising some important points that hancock disciples dont want to think about. I think david miano would have been quite good vs hancock too. This is why DEBATES SHOULD HAPPEN, right? I've seen some atheists and geologists think it's beneath them to debate young earth creationists, and historians think its wrong to directly address pseudohistory, but all that does is cede the public square to the fringe people, it allows bad ideas to spread. I wish more professionals would get out there and deal with pseudohistory and pseudoscience because if they dont deal with it then it just festers and every year more people succumb to the nonsense
@martinvanoene71926 ай бұрын
Very very awesome from Grimsby Ontario Canada
@MLM686 ай бұрын
Thanks for the informative videos, they help keep me updated on what fascinates me.
@yoyo-jc5qg6 ай бұрын
Ty for actually mentioning the truth in this discussion when talking about uruk, nobody ever does definitely not on the rogan podcast ... it took early farmers at the end of the ice age close to 7 thousand years to form advanced civilization, didn't happen overnight as you said 👏
@Eyes_Open6 ай бұрын
Great talk.
@robertbieniek94386 ай бұрын
I remember listening to Graham on the Art Bell Show
@russellmillar71326 ай бұрын
Ah yes, I remember the Hale-Bop debacle in the '90s. Took me down a lot of dead end roads. Good to be looking at those times in the rear view mirror.
@andrewblackard33696 ай бұрын
One problem with this debate is that there never was a definition of exactly what Hancock means by "civilization."
@thebeingbecoming35966 ай бұрын
no need, that word is already clearly defined
@guyman15706 ай бұрын
@@thebeingbecoming3596It is, I think the OP meant Hancock didn't
@thebeingbecoming35966 ай бұрын
@@guyman1570 Gotcha. But a civilization is already clearly defined as an advanced state of human society with highly developed forms of government, culture, industry, and social norms. Why would Hancock need to define what he means by 'civilization' when it's already pretty clear? Lol
@chadb16756 ай бұрын
And in graham's books he theorizes an advanced lost civilization that could cut and move stones with technology more advanced than we have today, including lasers or levitation. In his mars book he hints that such a lost civilization could have come from survivors from mars 😮
@andrewblackard33696 ай бұрын
@@chadb1675 I honestly have trouble squaring his claims. Either I am not understanding him or his premise is full of holes. So, they could cut and move stones -- but, on the Rogan show he admitted they did not have metallurgy. "Spiritial technology" does not cut stones. And how do you construct lasers without electronics?
@Youremyboyblue_6 ай бұрын
Kayleigh we need to advocate for your Rogan episode
@dcatterz70486 ай бұрын
Rogan impressed me after starting out in favour of hancock he seemed to sway but after the grain evidence was shown to be selected n have changed genetically it was Joe who asked the question nobody had an answer for or even considered asking how long would it take to go back after we stop picking it to turn back to a loose hanging structure graham didn't want to hear it coz it doesn't fit his time frame but that was a good none bias question
@buttercup89326 ай бұрын
Yall were way too excited about this😂 I loved it though.
@peterfabell1545 ай бұрын
I'm a bit confused -- is the claim that it was hunter-gatherers who built these "monumental architectures"? (mentioned around 11:20 or so) That's an astounding claim to make. That claim takes even more religious faith to believe that believing than those were not hunter-gatherers and that they did in fact exist as a civilization.
@qwertyuiopgarth6 ай бұрын
I'm told that the variability of weather up until about 10,000 years ago precluded agriculture because sometimes it would work, and sometimes it wouldn't work - with 'wouldn't work' being pretty important. However. Humans are clever and hunter-gatherers often managed to meet their nutritional needs with a dozen or two dozen hours of effort per week, thus they had a lot of free time....and humans with free time either start telling each other stories or they start messing about with their environment. Consequently I strongly suspect that various people here and there would pull a few weeds from around a berry patch, and would often plant some seeds here and there. Often it would work well enough that doing it again makes sense, but when it mostly doesn't work out it wasn't all that much effort put into, so it goes. Thus, I think that gardening has been a hobby of ours for a good amount of time before a lot our calories were from agriculture. (One way to try - try - to test for this would be to look at the prevalence and range of various plants - trees and bushes in particular - that hunter-gatherer humans would have valued. I suspect there is a 'spread of good stuff' that doesn't quite seem to be fully explained by climate change, knock-on effects from other actions, or any of the other relevant explanations.)
@theduppykillah6 ай бұрын
Hiroshima, London, Berlin, Nagasaki…how much of these cites pre bombing exists?
@JonPITBZN6 ай бұрын
"We're very similar to chimps" I was reading an article by a guy who proposed that instead of Homo Sapiens, humans should be classified as Pan Narrans - a storytelling ape. Not a biologist, though. "We can talk to gorillas using sign language" I thought the science wasn't settled on that
@HistoryWithKayleigh6 ай бұрын
Check out the videos of Koko on youtube, a gorilla that was taught sigh language and communicated with humans
@Emelefpi6 ай бұрын
The idea that apes can speak sign language is highly suspect given that the attempts that have been undertaken were riddled with confirmation bias and also with the notion what chimps/gorillas/bonobos would understand human concepts and be able to conceptualize them. However, I know that as some rando in the comments section, my words won't be very persuasive but there is a good video on YT called something like 'Koko couldn't talk' which goes in depth into the whole topic of communicating with apes that would do a far better job than me. It helped dispel my confirmation bias on the subject and gave me a healthy dose of skepticism regarding the issue
@Emelefpi6 ай бұрын
Edit: the video is called "Why Koko (Probably) Couldn't Talkk (Sorry)" by Soup Emporium. It's not going to be 100% conclusive no doubt but it's probably going to be very eye opening on the whole sign language ape thing
@Manbearpig44566 ай бұрын
@@HistoryWithKayleigh What’s your thoughts on flint lying about the ice core data that shows spikes in lead going back tens of thousands of years. What’s your thoughts on flint lying about the evidence we have of plants being domesticated returned to the wild to then be domesticated again? Why do you think flint felt the need to lie about so much of the data?
@mattheweagles51236 ай бұрын
I remember Graham Hancock, he was unconvincing in the 90's and I was pretty surprised he was allowed out on Netflix despite just retelling the same old stories that no one believed originally. Who is this Rogan chap?
@kingsuperbus46176 ай бұрын
Ever since I saw Joe Rogan and Graham Hancock on youtube I have been addicted to archaeology.
@cernunos81536 ай бұрын
Hopefully you found better sources than those 2 clowns
@cr-nd8qh6 ай бұрын
Graham tells a good story to me but I know nothing about archeology so...
@cernunos81536 ай бұрын
@@cr-nd8qh neither does Graham, which is why he constantly misrepresents what archeology is. He writes fiction. The issue is he constantly slanders and lies about real archeologists to try to bolster his image and manipulate people into believe his nonsense ideas.
@techfixr20126 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video!
@robzagar42756 ай бұрын
Good interview. Does seem to have frequent commercial interruptions
@basilbrushbooshieboosh53026 ай бұрын
Of course animals grieve, elephants grieve, and dogs grieve. On a personal, experiential level, I squashed a slug at a previous home, and was dead interested when the slug remains were visited by slug after slug after slug, Absurd you think, yeah, so did I. So I kept repeating the action, in a good scientific fashion, and low an behold, every squashed slug got re-visited by, what? friends? family? Who knows, but they kept visiting their mates till I'd practically wiped out the slug population in that backyard. And they weren't consuming the remains, as far as I could tell. They would go up to their dead mate and extend their eye-stalks and gently look over their friend in astounding detail before wandering away. Each one of them. Even the juveniles and babies would do it. Fascinating.
@davidwhiren8176 ай бұрын
This type of public face off was going to happen eventually & I for one am very glad that Mr. Dibble gathered up the facts & was more than ready to respond to sensationalist or whatever category they fall into !!!
@Ryan-eu3kp6 ай бұрын
I am very anti religion, i have no faith. However that podcast made me realize i fell for it, hook line and sinker. I now understand how easy it is to be fooled into believing things.
@Ryan-eu3kp6 ай бұрын
So thankyou Flint for bringing me back to reality
@Manbearpig44566 ай бұрын
It’s mad how many people just bent over and lapped what ever dribbled out of flint. You should probably fact check before you make a muppet out of yourself. Dribble lied about the ice core data failing to mention lead spikes going back tens of thousands of years. He lied about the glyph in the pyramid. He failed to mention that current flows and constant water changes would have made in next to impossible for any ships to preserve during the ice age. They say humans have used boats for 100,000 years but the oldest boat found is 9000 years old yet academics tell us they go back 100,000 years have a wee look into why. Ohh and don’t forget to look up the amount of crops that went extinct during the ice age and the evidence we have for plants being domesticated returned to the wild to then be redomesticated. Or you could just bent over for you next dribble
@mayaarini-wz7hk6 ай бұрын
mungkin anda tidak percaya agama namun percayalah sang pencipta. bukankah adanya situs yang terungkap menunjukan bentuk manusia di bumi ini yang percaya adanya tuhan, bahkan jauh sebelum agama agama dari padang pasir ?
@Manbearpig44566 ай бұрын
Did you bother to fact check flint or did you just lap it up?
@CoffeeFiend12 ай бұрын
@@Manbearpig4456 Fact checking the ice core samples from when Graham is actually talking about is profoundly interesting because there aren't any. But Flint shows us some nice graphs from... Nowhere remotely close to when Graham was discussing lol.
@danjager62006 ай бұрын
The Koko thing near the end has largely been debunked. Still, ignoring that, great video.
@1622yamaha6 ай бұрын
You guy's are making so much sense
@EM88446 ай бұрын
just a suggestion to somehow remove the echo in your room