The reason your struggling more with some of the response curves is because your staying on 4,3 but fine aim, and high velocity are designed for different sensitivity’s then what you would normally use on classic or linear ( high velocity would be better on a lower sens and fine aim on higher )
@kellantothemax35 Жыл бұрын
No lower for fine aim and then use alcs I use 2-2 fine aim and then my alcs it’s aimbot the sense converts over to alc and alc per optics convert over to regular sense try it out go to alcs and put everything to a 10.0 then turn them off with the per optics with your regular senses you’ll see what I’m saying
@Tyronebigggums Жыл бұрын
@@kellantothemax35wait what can u please explain a little more i am having a hard time understanding your comment bruh sorry 😔
@moneyroute9809 Жыл бұрын
@@kellantothemax35 stop giving away the sauce please 😂
@Smiley957 Жыл бұрын
@@Tyronebigggums i don’t think he knows what he’s talking about. You can’t do both ALCs and preset sensitivities at the same time.
@buffpath Жыл бұрын
@@Smiley957 he’s saying that alc per optics affect the default sensitivities, even if you aren’t using alc settings
@kivanoo8635 Жыл бұрын
bro, i played on steady for 2 weeks and it's actually insane. i can easily shoot enemies at long range and flick/hipfire, if i need it. that's like a combination of linear and classic. it actually feels like dynamic from warzone and that's what i was looking for!
@itsshiko2064 Жыл бұрын
What sens do you play on steady
@duanelondon6152 Жыл бұрын
I think it would help the roller vs mnk debate if the devs could do something about the aiming system. There’s a lot of things that work against you when it comes to it that people still struggle with
@CuBeKiDxD Жыл бұрын
Like the fact aim assist is so strong it messes up literally any sens. I wish aim assist was just lightly nerfed for everyone on controller
@scuderia9215 Жыл бұрын
TDM is going to be great to try out different response curves and get the practice in
@sinon0959 Жыл бұрын
Yeah unless you just get shat on by people smurfing and destroyed by like 6 people at the same time. Can’t believe they removed arena I hated that so much. It was so much easier to train your sim in arena matches much more fair 3v3 rather than 6v6 constant respawns
@jirvint1050 Жыл бұрын
@@sinon0959 skill issue
@SugarHillGoGetBack Жыл бұрын
@@sinon0959 skill issue forsureee
@ThurgoodJenkinz Жыл бұрын
I really wish there was separate deadzone, threshold and response curve adjustments for YAW AND ADS YAW speeds. I love a very sensitive linear ADS, but it completely destroys my hipfire accuracy. Ive been messing with ALC settings and linear for ages now. Cant ever find that sweet spot. Also hate the aim assist slowdown, because you get used to a sense and aim assist completely changes that when hovering over enemies.
@jonasharp3 Жыл бұрын
That slow down might be if your using the extra pitch and extra yaw settings, those add to your total sense when the analog stick is pushed to the outer threshold, but what they don’t tell you is that aim assist turns off that extra sense, and that can feel really bad if your base sense is too low. I run outer threshold - 1%, response curve - 6, yaw - 200, pitch - 160, extra yaw - 200, extra pitch - 160, ads yaw - 100, ads pitch - 80, ads extra yaw 50, ads extra pitch 40, and zero ramp up or delay, and deadzone should be as low as possible without getting drift. That’s basically a modified 4/3 that’s in between classic and linear. You could try something like that, or even switch the extra pitch and yaw values to zero if those throw you off.
@coolbrotherf127 Жыл бұрын
High velocity is basically just like trying to use a computer mouse with a lot of acceleration. Theoretically, it could be the best with more fine control, but the person using it would have to be actually god-like with a controller.
@MERKthatDUCK Жыл бұрын
6:00 - “where is he. oh.” ↖️⬆️⬅️↙️➡️⤵️⤴️↩️
@izrael_yt6755 Жыл бұрын
bro that piano convieniently starts playing when koala says "if you feel like you've hit a wall and cant get any better" like it knows my situation😭0:36
@dex3717 Жыл бұрын
Classic does not automatically have a larger deadzone. It has a 10 response curve with either a small or large deadzone that is equal to the other response curve types. The 'margin of error' is greater on classic because the YAW sens is higher than the PITCH by a specific amount. This allows you to pull all the way left or right on the stick without your aim moving up or down. On linear the YAW sens is only slightly higher than the PITCH so you have less margin of error when tracking someone left to right or vis versa. I'm a no life with 8000 hours playing apex on ALCS. I'm pretty sure I'm right about this.
@Kmasse8 Жыл бұрын
Great input. Would you mind sharing your settings to try them out?
@dex3717 Жыл бұрын
@Kmasse8 Sure Deadzone 2 Outer Threshold 1 Response Curve 2 Yaw 200 Pitch 140 Turning extra yaw 130 Turning extra pitch 60 Turning rampup time/delay 0 ADS Yaw 132 ADS Pitch 114 ADS Turning extra yaw/pitch 0 ADS Turning rampup time/delay 0 Per Optic ADS: 1x/iron sights 1.2 2x 1.4 3x 1.4 4x 1.4 6x 1.6 8x 1.6 10x 1.6 A range of response curves feel good to me on these sensitivities. Anything from 2-6 is good, but I've found that I have better movement with 2, so that's what I run. It really depends on your playstyle, though. If you're aggressive and get up in people faces a lot, then a lower response curve is better. If you tend to take fights a little slower and need more stability for ranged engagements, then I would recommend a higher response curve of 4-6.
@_Kovacs Жыл бұрын
Love the vid, I've changed my settings so much I went back to steady to just keep something consistent, I've tried linear out again recently and have liked it it just is different so I haven't decided if I've liked it or not. Definitely gonna give it a shot for like 2 weeks again
@ryduann Жыл бұрын
ALC for linear with a slight depress similar to classic is best IMO, no deadzone and quick response up close but still good fine recoil control at range
@alexanderfiehrer9447 Жыл бұрын
What are the alc for linear
@YourNameFX Жыл бұрын
@@alexanderfiehrer9447 response curve 0
@Manc82 Жыл бұрын
Linear 4.3 ALC are yaw 220 pitch 180 ex yaw 220 ex pitch 100. I changed the ads values a bit. I got ads yaw 125 ads pitch 125 ads ex yaw 140 ads ex pitch 80. These settings slap.
@fauciliedbeaglesdied6537 Жыл бұрын
Tips for hitting long range? I recently switched to 4-3 linear myself and absolutely decimate people at close range but medium to long it's just too sensitive to track people properly.
@KetboySlim Жыл бұрын
what helped me was giving it just little tiny response curve. so you have a little bit of acceleration on the small adjustments but still the feeling of linear
@LACshawn Жыл бұрын
@@KetboySlim can you explain this to me? would I have to change some alcs, and if i do would u mind giving me yours
@KetboySlim Жыл бұрын
@@LACshawn yeah alcs. Zero deadzone, no outer threshold but response curve I have on 3. I startet with 1 and couldn't really notice a difference to 0. With 2 I could notice a little acceleration but was still struggling on longer ranges. And 4 was already to much for me personally, didn't feel natural anymore so I kept it on 3.
@CuBeKiDxD Жыл бұрын
I adore max alc with ultra low ads but max extra. Beams at range, close up flicks are a dream, and is just so much fun
@ps_opc6529 Жыл бұрын
4:28, "Is that an invisible fence?!" *DIES*
@mjhammer22894 Жыл бұрын
Steady is great for fine aim adjustments, similar to linear. With zero deadzone it's solid 💪
@hanggidavid3183 Жыл бұрын
Steady isnt even close to be like linear lol😂😂
@ChemDogSoldier Жыл бұрын
That and I run 5-3 its odd but great for range!
@destroyuhh8001 Жыл бұрын
Honestly depending on your controller and how much drift you have,no deadzone 4-3 linear is better,but like a ps5 controller or a controller that has a lot of drift you should have small deadzone
@Shamurai0612 Жыл бұрын
3:51 broo I legit broke down laughing
@vortex_talon Жыл бұрын
i used to play on 7/5 on classic for roller lets just say you have to hip fire an eva in order to hit shots i played like this for 3 years until i switched to mnk
@jirvint1050 Жыл бұрын
I like linear but I can’t pick it over classic. The medium to long range control u get with classic allows for much more entry damage compared to linear.
@keseanlee523 Жыл бұрын
Yea I’m a 4-3 classic user it just feels nice and I have good control close range with it
@slayer6857 Жыл бұрын
4:29 “is that an invisible fence?!”
@geraldjimenez9165 Жыл бұрын
It all comes down to preference at the end of the day
@Dlatin212 Жыл бұрын
Steady-wingman goes nuts give it a go thank me later
@ItsDHunt Жыл бұрын
Trying
@mr.scrubmuppet7131 Жыл бұрын
If youre on pc make sure to overclock your controller. I just did it and its notably more reactive in game
@shaundocherty96 Жыл бұрын
I play with custom controls and when I first changed from linear I was trash but if you love movement as well as fine sim whilst moving quickly and wall bouncing it’s much easier to hit your shots for more accurate players, you just have to get use to it and when you do my guy you gonna be beaming
@KevBrad19 Жыл бұрын
best channel in content wise
@daytondavis1860 Жыл бұрын
Ayo the caustic slander is crazy
@skronk6931 Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what he is saying, and there probably is a higher skill ceiling on linear, but it is so hard to achieve in my op, and with classic, if you master it, you are probably better than a lot of linear players. (I use verhulst and ChaoticMuch as an example)
@momozzz6317 Жыл бұрын
verhulst plays on linear btw
@AEONIC_MUSIC Жыл бұрын
Yeah it takes a long time to master linear and even then you can play inconsistent sometimes at least for me I've had genburtens settings nearly 2 years and I have finally got better then what I was when I was on classic or the default linear which is easier then gens settings
@Anotherdonny Жыл бұрын
@@AEONIC_MUSIC don’t you have a lot of stick drift using gens sens?
@AEONIC_MUSIC Жыл бұрын
@Itzzwrat not too bad I think you have to learn how to place your thumb to minimise it and also a decent controller
@madesix Жыл бұрын
I gotta disagree with you for the classic part. The deadzone is unchanged, it is the response curve that has an exponential form, compared to a linear one for.. linear. So classic is like the more you pull the stick, the faster it goes, resulting in inconsistencies while controlling recoil at mid/long range, while linear is less accurate in hipfire and close range because it is 1:1 with the input performed, drifting away from the aim assist pull more easily. To have the best of both world, I used to use linear (0/1/0, 400/400, 130/130) with extra yaw/pitch on both ADS and hipfire to have that « classic max speed ». You can use a bit of ramp up so it doesn’t feel like fine aim but it’s a matter of preference at the end of the day
@bigb0isp00n5 Жыл бұрын
That volt skin tho!!! I wish i was playing Apex when that skin was in the store
@LilBeast-hx6iw Жыл бұрын
i used to watch your vids all the time like seasons 1-3
@Eradicationist Жыл бұрын
try 250 all, with boost off, 15 curve or linear, but I would make ads 25% for linear or 125...perfect 50% sensitivity better than 4 4, more accurate, enjoy.
@worldbreakeratlas Жыл бұрын
" fantastic im going away from that"
@stefanogarcia8064 Жыл бұрын
how did you know I needed this video today lol
@llamaalpaca9117 Жыл бұрын
Been playing shooters forever and still don't know what response curve is I just use the per optic settings.
@x0swings0x Жыл бұрын
Classic the best
@itzlucky4942 Жыл бұрын
i love your videos thx for starting to upload agin;)
@asmrslimraven Жыл бұрын
0:57 i'm dying
@patbutler6467 Жыл бұрын
Dead zones have NOTHING to do with response curves.
@TH3PROF3SSjONAL Жыл бұрын
My ALC is really close to aim bot, fast camera movement then locks on to enemy. Takes a while to get used to.. but once you figured it out... You'll never miss your shots.
@hiiipower42 Жыл бұрын
What is it?
@slavanest Жыл бұрын
Linear 5-5 ps5/apex version for ps4/ no dead zone/ DualShock controller with back button attachment/ I guess almost perfect response. Mid/close range +++ 2-3 weeks to get used
@overwhelmed2879 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I believe it's bad to use 380s, if you have to compensate by using left stick aiming and I'm ads to catch a target ( sometimes ) it's just not a good sens
@MrIsaaclovesyou Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend linear if someone were to only play apex when they’re drunk
@scruffletrucks Жыл бұрын
Love the vids koala
@ThiefBTW Жыл бұрын
Idk what you’re talking about when saying that players that use classic tend to not use hip fire alot, my hip fire is on another level while using classic and wins me so many fights
@eekajmoneybaby9309 Жыл бұрын
I love 5,5 on linears maybe it's just me being someone who came from rb6s but I'm used to my aim sensitivity being exactly the same as my regular sensitivity.
@yahshua4928 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand how people play on anything but ALC. The default sensitivities feel so clunky and restrictive.
@saltycomet Жыл бұрын
💯
@rcbucs25 Жыл бұрын
Thats because they play on PC with higher frames per second. The game is much more fluid and a 4-3 classic no dead zone feels smoother. I'm guessing your on console?
@yahshua4928 Жыл бұрын
@@rcbucs25 I get what you’re trying to say, but aim assist is still stronger overall on console. You think console players don’t get beamed too? lol
@rcbucs25 Жыл бұрын
@@yahshua4928 I am a console player on ps5 and also use Alcs because I dont like default settings b/c it feels clunky. I was just reffering to your statement as to why so many people can play on normal classic settings because alot of those people are on pc (especially the youtubers we watch) classic feels better on pc
@yahshua4928 Жыл бұрын
@@rcbucs25 ohh my bad gotcha
@jns90 Жыл бұрын
Switch to linear and got my first 20 bomb and 4k that setting is op
@Rexu1234 Жыл бұрын
always if someone asks me fro what sens and response curve to use my answer is quite simple. In apex I fell like a slower sens on controller is better for aim, faster for replicating mouse like movements. i recommend 5-3, 4-3 or 5-4 with linear. I personally use ALC and if you want more personalisation use ALC for a couple of weeks or months, eventually you will get the perfect sensitivity. It took em over a year to get the right sens for me
@AyyoStevie Жыл бұрын
I don’t even use ACL settings i okay weird but its still snappy & quick 4 - 2 linear no deadzone to small deadzone depends on how you can actually track in air and mid air
@institches4x429 Жыл бұрын
He’s back 🔥
@miguelmartinez2178 Жыл бұрын
I have been playing linear 2 2 it's so weird it does good some days others not
@superkris670 Жыл бұрын
Do You use acl settings or the other? I mean the 1-10 options
@wasteofair5758 Жыл бұрын
I always use classic because my controller has quite a bit of drift
@zSaaqh Жыл бұрын
4-3 classic no deadzone are the best sens.
@yarigg Жыл бұрын
They should add visual graphs for the response curves so that we know eaclty what they look like instead of a vague eplanation in the settings menu
@overwhelmed2879 Жыл бұрын
They do have a visual graph. Sarcasm?
@BosJTRose Жыл бұрын
I have been struggling but I have also gotten drift in my controller might try steady see if that helps
@TheGiftRF Жыл бұрын
ALC is the way to go if you take some time to experiment
@shalimmontes2567 Жыл бұрын
Obviously every sens will have its tradeoffs, I don't think there is a perfect, gold standard sense but I would say 4-3 linear no dead zone has been really good to me. It's the most consistent sens I've ever used and yes even though at long range it's a little weaker like koala said, I still feel the extra control at close-medium range is worth it.
@razorplays7622 Жыл бұрын
Try small deadzone, its better on both medium-close and long rage
@moonlightxrz3629 Жыл бұрын
hi koala ty for great video again
@ElPutoAmo Жыл бұрын
Yow I'm now to this game And dang just tried your settings and something in my aim changed I could get a kill Finally
@tonymontoya3629 Жыл бұрын
Stick drift on my controller is preventing me from lessening my dead zone or switching to linear:/ I use 5/5 classic rn
@Shamurai0612 Жыл бұрын
3:51 bro u had me laughing so hard r
@Shamurai0612 Жыл бұрын
4:30 😭😭 ur intrusive thoughts are hilarious
@Shamurai0612 Жыл бұрын
6:11 stop it! stop ur mum! Bro ur actually funny
@Quadfxther Жыл бұрын
do you still recommend linear on console with lower frames?
@aznnathan3 Жыл бұрын
This guy has god like skins oml
@lifeofnas499 Жыл бұрын
Good vid
@Dwatts24111 Жыл бұрын
I play on PS5 and typically use classic. I actually tried linear last night. I noticed that on linear my stick drifts to the right. Is tgis normal on controller? When I play on classic I have never experienced any type of stick drift. Is it the linear setting or is my controller bad? I have had the original roller since i bought the system 2 years ago.
@Kmasse8 Жыл бұрын
Bump up your dead zone from 0 up until there is no drift. For me that dead zone is 5 (with 4 there is drift).
@ray-zs9df Жыл бұрын
You can literally use alc 0 response curve and for me 3% dead zone all the rest of the settings is just personal preference
@nguyetquan5226 Жыл бұрын
You can build linear 43 alc ? 43 deaful i dont use small big
@kaleb8850 Жыл бұрын
Linear 💪🏼
@vagabondcaleb8915 Жыл бұрын
What is his reticle settings?? It looks the same as Hal's/Rep's and I've been trying to find those, but have only been able to find old ones from when they had neg values.
@YourNameFX Жыл бұрын
its just green dude
@val-vishkatheenthraller Жыл бұрын
Bro imagine a macro that can switch from the linear to a good long range sens.
@dylantackes5337 Жыл бұрын
when i try high vel or linear i feel like i have to bump deadzone to small on classic or steady i feel like no deadzone
@jasonadersonwedion9874 Жыл бұрын
Which is the best for recoil control?
@Ninthtry9103 Жыл бұрын
Linear will always be king in that regard it's all your input no game placing any restrictions on you unless you apply deadzone
@jasonadersonwedion9874 Жыл бұрын
@@Ninthtry9103 thanks
@iitzketchup7374 Жыл бұрын
As a MnK player, i can also change these settings
@eliteyesune146 Жыл бұрын
Try playing hybrid mnk and the roller be funny to see
@adrianjuric7798 Жыл бұрын
I use alc but still watched the hole vid👍🔥
@cloverc0358 Жыл бұрын
missed you Koala
@RYyZNgaming Жыл бұрын
I have some Alc settings you should try out
@sbg_benzo3661 Жыл бұрын
is that an invisible fence? LMAO
@Dr.HUGENSTEIN Жыл бұрын
I play controller on pc and i'm so tired of putting a clip and a half into someone and have them still standing. I have to tell myself, don't aim to hit shots up close.
@rakithagayan8371 Жыл бұрын
What are your per optic settings
@user-vs2hp5vt3r Жыл бұрын
I am MnK but I still watch this and be like : Hmm, naruhodo
@deetznutsmeatsnuts7984 Жыл бұрын
Good bud I subscribe
@jeffy1662 Жыл бұрын
Switched to linear and I’m already nearly plat 3
@nourk8341 Жыл бұрын
can you show us please full setting for your controller bro and thanx so much ❤️
@nourk8341 Жыл бұрын
oh really i won ?
@i-am-mercurial Жыл бұрын
What do these equate to in alc?
@landynnichols579 Жыл бұрын
I play on a stupid sens 💀
@joshcascio42 Жыл бұрын
What is your outro song called ?
@seidi548 Жыл бұрын
if you like it being fluid and free you should try a mouse
@Zuramiado Жыл бұрын
on linear it seems like i have stick drift b ut i dont
@wanshurst2416 Жыл бұрын
i will never understand how you can use a controller on pc. everytime i have one in my hands it just feels so restricted.
@ThrisCopher Жыл бұрын
Alc master race
@lewtg0blin594 Жыл бұрын
"Stop yo mumm"
@ItsDHunt Жыл бұрын
You’re also playing welllll over 60fps…. Well over 100fps…. Talk ABOUT THATT
@Anotherdonny Жыл бұрын
When I play linear 4-3 small dead zone I don’t think I’m getting any aim assist, but as soon as I go onto no dead zone I get it? How lol
@yhn_murda9775 Жыл бұрын
Steady is best for me
@EndeVor_665 Жыл бұрын
I love koala
@bryce_withricee9556 Жыл бұрын
5-6 steady no dead zone is so good
@imaSoldier187 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure steady is 15 in response curve classic is 10 and fine aim I believe is 25 or 30 and we all know linear is 0 for high velocity I have no idea but I do know its doo doo.
@LeeroyFr Жыл бұрын
I'm a fine aim player and I'm trying to figure out what is fine aim on alc really need help
@nooptiui Жыл бұрын
@@LeeroyFr don't use fine aim
@LeeroyFr Жыл бұрын
@@nooptiui it's not a bad settings I just want to see how you supposed to convert fine aim to alc response curve
@jamesbaxter7492 Жыл бұрын
Steady is rc 15 classic is 10 it's weird it felt like a mix of l and c to you