2:45の看板?に NIRU KAJITSU SECOND ANNIVERSARY 「煮ル果実 二周年」 って書いてありますね… 間違ってたらすみません 2:40から煮ル果実さんの過去作品が並べられているのだと思います KZbinだと アンドリューがいったから 汽笛 テールランプと金魚鉢 マディ・マーマレード ハロー、トミー。 ハングリーニコル シュールマン ニコニコでは アイアルの勘違い 紗痲 Neira ヲズワルド トラフィック・ジャム キルマー ANNA NO MUSICA 全部にNIRU KAJITSU SECOND ANNIVERSARY って書いてありますね… 誰かの考察材料になって欲しい勝手な考察 ↓ 最初の電車で主人公以外全員目を瞑っていて(寝ている人もいますが)それが、みんな現実から目を背けているのかな?と感じました だから主人公もそれに合わせたのか(大衆の意見に合わせる)自分自身も現実から目を背けるために目を瞑ったのではないのかなと感じました。そしてそのところの歌詞も「もう酸い生活を 味わっていたくは無いから」なので 途中の過去作品が並んでいるところはよく映画館の近くの壁とかに上映作品が広告?みたいに貼られている、それに見えました。そしてその店頭の部分にはトラフィック・ジャムのフラリーやウェルターが並んでいるから映画(ここでは煮ルさんの過去作品を指す)のチケットを買っているのかな?と思いました。 やはりこの曲は何かしらトラフィック・ジャムと繋がりがあるのでは?と思います。明石さんが同じ動画の絵を担当しているだけではないと思います…2:30でトラフィック・ジャムの2人のどちらかが主人公を嘲笑っているのはトラフィック・ジャムの動画の概要欄にある「貴方々の不幸を望みます」という部分にも繋がっているのかなと勝手に感じました。 何か間違い、考察ありましたら教えてください! !This may be wrong because it is a literal translation! ↓ 2:45 signboard? To NIRU KAJITSU SECOND ANNIVERSARY "Boiled fruit @ 2nd anniversary" It is written ... I'm sorry I'm wrong I think that the past works of boiled fruit are arranged from 2:40 KZbin Because Andrew went Whistle Tail lamp and fishbowl Maddy Marmalade Hello, Tommy. Hungry Nicole Surreal In Nico Nico Aial misunderstanding Saani Neira Zwald Traffic jam Kilmer ANNA NO MUSICA Everything says NIRU KAJITSU SECOND ANNIVERSARY ... Selfish considerations that I want to be used as someone's consideration material ↓ Are all eyes closed except for the protagonist on the first train (even if they are sleeping), are they all turning their eyes away from reality? I felt that So I felt that the protagonist had adapted to it (according to the opinion of the public) and that myself had closed my eyes to turn away from reality. And the lyrics there are also "I don't want to taste sour life anymore" Where the past works on the way are lined up, do you often advertise screened works on the wall near the movie theater? It looked like it was affixed. And there are traffic jam flares and welters at the front of the store, so are you buying movie tickets (here, the past works of Niiru-san)? I thought. Does this song have any connection to traffic jams? I think. I don't think Akashi is just responsible for painting the same video ... It's in the Traffic Jam video summary that one of the two traffic jams at 2:30 is mocking the protagonist. I felt that it was also connected to the part "I want you to be unhappy". Please let me know if you have any mistakes or considerations!
The main character is so goddamn pretty though, his hair and eyelashes and eyebrows somehow just make him even more pretty, the art style really flatters him, even when he cries
@raspberrycandymilk2 жыл бұрын
IFKR HES SO PRETTY
@lujansalva18722 жыл бұрын
And with the green lipstick fuaa chefkiss
@mahogakko2 жыл бұрын
he’s so gender
@awkyayumi14432 жыл бұрын
Ikr, also I'm glad to see someone who speaks English here, I don't feel so alone anymore
THEORY OVERHAUL: Hello everyone I received a lot of feedback for the past year about my theory, mostly referring to that Haine and the Bellboy are two different people. Of course without much proof, other than Haine and the Bellboy appearance, I stuck with this theory, HOWEVER with the recent events and with the latest song "Ironina" out your theories have proven me wrong and I respect that so much that I took another deep dive to re-write this theory. So I’m here with a BRAND NEW theory for you all ☺️ and I shall refer to the characters by their official names: Man: Haine Bellboy: Bellboy We first see Haine riding to a place by a train. Telling by his hair he hasn’t properly taken care of it due to his depression. He then heads to a bar and drinks his sorrows away while judging those around him, specifically a couple indicating that he's probably dealing with a break-up and other things. Being completely drunk he stumbles out the bar and comes across the Weldline Hotel meeting the Bellboy. (Sidenote 1: Originally I thought Haine going to the hotel were a set of collective dream sequences, but as seen in "Ironina", the hotel isn't a dream but a state of mind that houses those with severe depression as seen when Haine offered a key to Heath, the protagonist of "Ironina") This Bellboy actually offers Haine a room there and Haine takes his offer without protest. The scene with Haine looking in the mirrors represents that while he is filthy his eyes are still clouded to the things around him even when he tries to wash his worries away. The siren can also mean two things: he tried to find love elsewhere, but knew it was only a temporary fix along with his past blinding him. The SECOND reason would be to seduce him into staying in his depressed state but it doesn't work. Eventually Haine wakes up not completely being seduced into his depression, but still feeling the same as before. The Bellboy attends to his daily runs, but the scene shifts to him typing on a keyboard. We then cut to a man on the streets going around and begging people around him with a cynical smile on his face. This image is immediately replaced with the Bellboy showing us that they are they same person, who at one point was homeless. Throughout this sequence, the Bellboy also tells the story of the organ donor: (One of the lovely commenters, @TAMEDbeast 222, pointed out that he is surrounded by canvases and other art supplies, meaning he tried to make a living as an artist and sadly couldn't make enough to sustain himself, even resorting to begging and latching onto people to buy his work.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [The story was about how this young man, sold his organs to keep up his livelihood as he was dead broke. He hated that he had to resort to such extreme measures to keep living and scoffs at his own foolishness. Seeing as the man was an artist, people go to see his art, but instead of buying them, they try to make him give them away for free. He sees them as extorters or as he calls them slave traders, trying to encourage him into accepting free labor. In a turn of events Haine ends the story with a question: who was worth pitying in this scenario? The people who tried to encourage him to chase other dreams, or the man who went down a foolish route to chase said dream?] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Bellboy chokes on his answer, with the analogy of the purple mouthwash. He tries to answer with sweet words, but ultimately he swallows them as he has no response. As we continue we see the lights in the hotel turn off showing that some of the hotel doors are broken and made of steel or iron. We then see the Bellboy, but he then fades into his former self. He once had life in his eyes and love on his mind, but unlike before where I believed he had finally confessed to her, he actually didn't as she confessed to Haine, leaving himself depressed with a one-sided love. Eventually Haine wishes to leave, but the Bellboy doesn't allow this. The reason being that Haine is not ready, as unlike the other tenets who decided to break away from their depression, Haine simply tries to leave the hotel without solving his problem. (Sidenote 2: To be honest my stance on Welter and Flurry have slightly changed but not entirely, as instead of representing a force that punish those who shame society for their actions, they are society as in the culmination of its negativity. Welter represents an open mockery of others, while Flurry represents the harsh, but silent judgement. To Flurry and Welter they already know why humans get involved with them it is why Niru had stated that Flurry and Welter are everywhere they will never disappear, though they can be chased away as seen in "Ironina".) (Sidenote 3: As for the movie posters, I thought they were to represent how boring Haine's life was compared to the other songs, but in actuality it was to show Niru's accomplishments from where he came from. It was during the time of his anniversary when he released, No Man, a collection of self covers. So I hope this clears up that misunderstanding!) As we continue further into the song, the hooded man from before is revealed to be the Bellboy who ultimately is the young man, the homeless man, and ultimately the organ donor who is revealed to have bought a car with money he had received being called weak in the process. At the same time, Haine has encountered Welter (or Flurry if you watch the NicoNico version), and while he tries to fight back Welter shoots him down and Haine further drowns in his misery. And thus we finally learn the backstory of the Bellboy: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Once a young aspiring artist, the Bellboy fell in love with a women, however this love was sadly one-sided. She eventually fell in love with Haine, and telling by Haine's appearance its been a few years since this encounter happened. (@shadowwolfgem s) points out that at 2:47 the aftermath of the girls confession. The Bellboy was bullied relentlessly, with Haine possibly the one to incite other to do so for him, as the Bellboy looks at Haine both angry with each other. Spiraling into a deep depression, he too ends up at the hotel where it seems that a woman was the previous owner. Since he fell too deep, the owner released herself from her own past, seeing that it was pointless to hang on, leaving the Bellboy to took her place, becoming the new caretaker to the hotel. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cutting back to the present, we see that Haine has begins to cry while eating, as insults cloud him though and through. What I originally believed to be Haine's future coming to pull him out to safety, turned out to be the exact opposite. What's really happening is that Haine is convincing himself that it's ok to stay in the past, to give into his depression. This upsets the Bellboy who’s eyes have reverted back to his former self, revealing how foolish he was for hanging onto the past. Haine chokes his hopeful counterpart and forces him to see that no matter what he will never escape his past. As a result Haine accepts this depressive state, having killed any hope(himself) of recovering and as a result we see his converting into the new Bellboy. At the same time the Bellboy leaves, just as the woman left before him now seeing the light. The Bellboy wakes up now realizing that he has a future to look forward to, while Haine, taking the place of the Bellboy, continues to shoulder his burdens collapses. The Bellboy wonders if he'll ever get used to this new life... However, one may wonder what the Bellboy was typing on his computer. Well thanks to the commenter, @Aisyah Naza, we now know that it's the Bellboy writing his encounter with the strange man known as Haine, as they pointed out that the story was written in the third person. I originally thought that it was Haine talking down to himself, but many of the lines correlated well with the Bellboy as only he refers to himself in the first person and only referring to himself as the Bellboy when being called on as seen at 0:52. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello everyone ( ´ ▽ ` )ノ its been a while hasn't it. A lot of things have happened since this post and things are now slowly returning to normal! I'm pretty glad that you guys were willing to help me realize that a lot of my theory had holes in it that I couldn't even solve myself until you helped me, but I guess Niru and @A_ka_shi__ fully made me realize that I was wrong as "Ironina" proved as much. You could pretty much tell that I was new to making theories at the time, but if you've encountered my other recent theories I've gotten better at distinguishing between the author's metaphors and literal imagery, so I hope to continue improving in the future! With that being said I hope you have a blessed day and I'll see you around 🎈
@shadowwolfgems81344 жыл бұрын
I think your theory is cool but I don't think the bellboy and haine are the same person. Mainly because during 2:46 and 2:56, we see the bellboy when he was normal look at a younger haine with a girl. I think Haine and bellboy went to the same school and probably liked the same girl and because of that haine bullied the bellboy because if you look at the bellboy there is something spilled on his back and he's on the ground crying with people surrounding him. Also it seems like the bellboy was in the hotel like haine was because at the end of that scene you see another bellperson walk out the door while the bellboy becomes the bellboy. Then in the last part of the song the bellboy proceeds to do the same thing to haine. Also we get to see haine as a child and a teen I assume and he doesn't look like the bellboy during that part. So at least to me they seem like completely different people in the song.I could be wrong but that what I got from the video, I still like your theory though.
@kendrillion72814 жыл бұрын
No you explained it pretty well but the reason that I say that the Bellboy is Haine is because of the scribbled flashback at 2:49 we see the Bellboy’s transformation once the girl he loves leaves. It’s basically what broke him leaving Haine to dwell and be trapped by his past mistakes which is personified as the Bellboy. The Bellboy leaving just means the same as when the girl left: he’s given up on Haine. However the difference is that while the girl left because of Haine never changing, the Bellboy leaves because Haine is now putting in the effort to change. It also coincides with what Niru’s comment said, “Weldline Hotel is in an empty place in the heart.” That feeling of you past trying to dictate your present actions feels like how Haine is dealing with the Bellboy: a very suffocating feeling.
@salmon14264 жыл бұрын
Whoa, everything makes sense now. Thanks!
@honoka79174 жыл бұрын
Dude, thank you, i love this song so much and now i love you for taking the time and effort to write this. I really love the theory of bellboy and haine being the same person! It makes the whole story and song so very deep
@setsurarara4 жыл бұрын
Umm, no offense but are you perhaps colourblind? I mean, everything is green, i don't see any orange 😂
My theory, based on the title and my understanding of the lyrics, is that this song is about how someone will give their everything in order to achieve something, to become something bigger than they are, without realizing that there's nothing left to them in the end. By the time they do, it's too late, leaving the person filled with holes that can't be filled. Even if you mock it, you can't help but do the same in sacrificing yourself in hope in getting what you want. Haine Kleine essentially translates as "small hatred" - it's a song about bitterness. No timestamps due to being on mobile, and this based on my own loose translation of the lyrics. Until someone with a better and more accurate translation comes along, this is my translation. Will edit later. Maybe. Based on the imagery of the PV, the main guy (who I will call Weldline based on the author's comment) is one of these people. He's silently judging the people at the bar even though he's already hollow from sacrificing so much of himself; from the past loves he's had, to the peers who judge him in passing, to the sirens that tempt him into their beds only to leave him alone come morning. He tries to drink to drown away this feeling, when the Bellboy arrives. The Bellboy offers to help him, to fill in the holes of his Heart Hotel, but Weldline doesn't want to admit to himself that he needs help. It slowly starts to drive him insane, his denial. The Bellboy commends him, saying he's strong for defying his inferiority complex, but Weldline knows that deep down he's actually weak and unable to stand up to anyone's expectations of him. He tries to drown this sorrow in alcohol and wine, but all it does is worsen his psyche. Welter's arrival is interesting, because his and Flurry's song is about ignoring responsibility and placing the blame elsewhere. His appearance to Weldline is to mock him, because he knows that all he is doing is avoiding his issues and pushing them onto someone else to fix without putting any real effort into helping himself. In the end, Weldline isn't able to get better. The Bellboy alone can't fix him, and unable to live up to that last expectation, destroys him. He cannot go back to the days where he was whole. The Bellboy's face going from delighted to disappointed is Weldline casting away his delusions and seeing himself for who he truly is - pathetic. The Bellboy can be seen as a friend who tried to reach out, but based on the PV, it seems to me that the Bellboy is actually Weldline - rather, the part of him that was whole and optimistic and had hopes. The Bellboy leaving in the end is Weldline giving up and accepting defeat over himself. He loses the last bit of himself, losing his mind and he fights and destroys him, leaving behind the empty broken shell at the end. The final lyrics I believe are about how you don't have to be perfect because no one in the world is. Everyone is "dirty" in their own way, and pass along that grime to dirty others. It's a give and take world - people will give a piece of their heart to someone in hopes they will give the same in return. Some people do, someone people run off to leave the person broken hearted. And so to fill that void, they take from elsewhere, and it continues. "I suppose I'll get used to it" is the last lyric (based on my loose translation skills, so take that as you will) EDIT: Another interesting thing is the reference to the Weldline. A weld line, or a knit line, is where two pieces are merged together in order to make a bigger piece. The weld line, however, is not perfect, and actually represent a weakness in the merges, typically around holes and openings in the mold. So to say, the Bellboy, all his efforts put together to fix the Heart Hotel's vacancies, were weak at best.
@kendrillion72814 жыл бұрын
This maybe just an Easter egg but when you check out the video on NicoNico Welter is replaced with Flurry. I feel as if both Flurry and Welter represent two sides of Weldline: as you pointed out Welter mocks him (if that’s what his face indicates), however, Flurry’s face contains more disappointment as if to say, “You already knew how you got here...”Both Flurry and Welter I feel are a prefect duo as you stated they mock society as other try to point the blame, however, they have a good reason for doing so as people like Weldline give, and give and give and then blame society for their misfortune. That is the juice or “deuce” they feed on: human stupidity.
@vasilliase4 жыл бұрын
@@kendrillion7281 I agree, even if you swap out Welter for Flurry, they're both just sides of the same coin. Welter is openly mocking, the type to laugh in your face and push you down. Meanwhile, Flurry is more openly shaming, the type to scoff and look down her nose at you.
@BettyNoireMaSTeRProCraStInaToR4 жыл бұрын
Vasille the Guy’s name is Haine. Weldline is the hotel
@kendrillion72814 жыл бұрын
You took the words right out of my mouth. I love this song because it gives us more insight on the nature of Flurry and Welter. They aren’t just chaos without a purpose. They know why they exist and they’ll live as long as humans have this selfish nature. They’re really only fulfilling the roles given to them whether they live the highlife (the beginning of TJ) or end up in the trash heap (the end of TJ)
@vasilliase4 жыл бұрын
@@BettyNoireMaSTeRProCraStInaToR Where'd you find his true name out? I only referred to him as Weldline because this Heart Hotel is his, and the Hotel itself is called the Weldline Hotel. I don't take the title to reflect the characters' names, because in the lyrics the Bellboy is literally just called Bellboy, so then who would be Kleine?
@コーヒー太郎-v2n4 жыл бұрын
2:37の表情がたまらなく好き
@コーネリアス-d5c4 жыл бұрын
2:35 ウェルターだ!?!?
@cebollaonion2 жыл бұрын
It's been two years since this song came out and honestly it's become my safe place, I'm really thankful that nilfruits wrote a song like this It's sad to relate to this song and the main character, but the "it's alright if you can't really become clean" at the end is hopeful
@きりたんにきりたんぽが生えた日3 жыл бұрын
曲の途中から聴き始めたみたいな始まり方、終わらない失望のワンシーンを切り取ったみたいで好き
@岩倉玲音-l1v4 жыл бұрын
Haine Kleine (Haine Kuraine) Kono sekai ga souda yo zutto nee zutto Amaimono ni kogarete ita no wa Haine Kleine Umare ochite kite kara zutto Mou sui seikatsu o Ajiwatte itaku wa naikara Kitanai mizube de sumutori wa Kireina mizube no esa wa toranai to shitte Tashounaritomo kuchou ni minofurikata to Toritsukushima dake wa kangaete kita Kogane-iro no mahidoku o nomihoshi mise o ato ni shita Koyoi wa bosatsu ni narou ka Hata mata furou-sha ni demo ochiyou ka Zuibun o hayai o demukae ne beruboi Kare wa “tegusune hiite mattemashita” to Kusuri, warau Haine Kleine Kono sekai ga souda yo zutto nee zutto Kusaimononifuta shite kita no wa Haine Kleine Mina ana-darake no kokoro o misukasa renai you ni Ikinuite ikushikanai kara sa Seikatsu no tame tsuini wa zouki o utte Kane ni shita seinen sore o azakeru Mushou muryou dorei shounin-domo Dochira ga oroka ka wa meikakuda mono Daga dochira ga aware ka to towa rete sa Kotoba ga nodo ni tsumatta Ebiiro no gansou-zai de kuchi o susugi Nagashikonda nda Haine Kleine Hontou no ai wa kitto sa aru to Sou zettai aru to tonaete ita no wa Haine Kleine Ima jibun ga hitori datte koto o Mou zutto isshou mitometaku wanaikara Chekkuauto suru yo sorosoro sa Sore wa yurusa remasen to beruboi “Anata wa hibi rettoukan ni tachimukau senshida Douzo go yururi to” Zouki o utta seinen wa jitsuwa Eta kin de kuruma o katte itarashii Shinsou wa son'na monda yo to mitometaku wa nai na 'Omae yori jakusha wa inai' to iwareteru you de sa Waikuna haine Kono heya ga souda yo zutto nee zutto Karaimono de afure sugi ten no wa Furachina haine Umare ochite kite kara zutto Boku no nagashita namida ni tsukatte itakara Haine Kleine Ashita nanka ni ikanakute ii yo Nee zutto gyutto Shinzou o oshitsuke atta Kirei ni nanka naranakute yoi Ima yori zutto kono sekai ga Unto yogorete ikimasu you ni Soshitara najimeru no ka na funfact: Haine Kleine means "Haine, little one" or "Haine, little girl" in german - your local beruboi