Floyd Landis: Lance Armstrong was a jerk and bully

[@thebikerei]

by seeing Lance Armstrong acting in the Media I have 100% no doubt he was/is a bully. what Floyd is explaining shows a picture of a truly narcistic personality... kudos to Floyd Landis for explaining this.

[@KIMKIRCHEN]

@@billbobaggins801 twat!

[@billbobaggins801]

@@KIMKIRCHEN lmao! But your a really stinky fishy one aren't ya! Mate?

[@KIMKIRCHEN]

@@billbobaggins801 nope that's your mom's bud. 🤢

[@johnnylee8194]

no a c***k s***er

[@michaelwainscott2633]

Or this guy is just a whiney little bitch trying to make a buck by pedaling his book!

[@jonathan_careless]

Everyone who defends Lance says, "Oh well, everyone was doing it, who cares." but the fact Lance lied and cheated through all those Tours isn't the real reason he was an asshole. It's stuff like what Floyd and Greg said about him. He was just a truly awful guy to so many people.

[@wvu05]

I'm in the middle of reading Tyler Hamilton's book, and it turns out that not nearly as many actually used EPO in 1999 as Asteriskstrong would have you believe. In 2005, they checked samples for EPO. Asteriskstrong either tested positive or showed examples of microdosing nearly every day of the first 14 days, and none for the last week when his drug connection left the Tour as reported by Hamilton once the lead was insurmountable. Of the riders outside the Postal Service team, less than 8% tested positive, so even then, he cheated more than anyone else, but the psychopath convinced himself that everyone else was just as dirty and just as psychopathic as he was.

[@wvu05]

@RollinRat Indeed. In this case, he convinced himself that everyone was as crooked as he was.

[@fumanpoo4725]

The POS destroyed lives to perpetuate his lies. May Satan have him.

[@-First-Last]

@@wvu05 You nail it.

[@tman5634]

The way Landis describes Armstrong, In a long life i've witnessed a few such people like this & my interpretation of each was 'what a horrible horrible self centred & damaged individual' The wrotten truth came out about Armstrong & it's evident the people that have since bothered with him at all, are those that are of a similar guilty ilk.

[@tobiaserler]

That's why I'm a fan of Jan Ullrich. He certainly used doping but he treated his teammates well and remained a humble person throughout his sporting career. I don't think any of Ullrich's ex-teammates would speak so negatively about him!!!

[@KNR6292]

I would love to find that one youtube video where ulrich is chasing armstong and its set to Infusion (Legacy) - Junkie XL

[@TheSchmuel]

So many comments about Landis also being a drug cheat... ALL the Tour riders are Drug Cheats.. This is about Lance being a genuine A-hole of a human. Landis was at least a nice drug cheat

[@t5kcannon1]

"Landis was at least a nice drug cheat" So that's ok then? Does not matter if the dude was a 'nice cheat' or a 'nasty cheat'. A cheat is a cheat: Landis is on a similar level to Armstrong.

[@rcdogmanduh4440]

A nice cheat , I like that.

[@garrettmain3712]

Yeah, I'd take a guy who was a bit of a jerk and raised $500 million for charity over a whiney ex pro cyclist.

[@thesoultwins72]

+Samuel rogers …….and you know that 'ALL the Tour riders are Drug Cheats' how? Are you an ex-Tour rider, team doctor or directeur sportif? Idiot.

[@RepublicanJesusthe2nd]

samuel rogers I guess a persons personality doesn't matter to you?

[@MannyDelaCruzBOOM4U]

Just this afternoon, I had the pleasure of driving the support vehicle while Floyd and a good friend of mine were riding in the mountains around my home. It was just the three of us when we had stopped for a brief break of food and drinks, and another cyclist came riding up slowly past our jeep. Floyd called out, asking if the rider wanted a water. He didn't, but he pulled over with us. He asked us for some technical advice on a noise his bike was making, and Floyd stepped forward, chatting and making suggestions. If was pretty clear the rider had no idea who Floyd was, and at one point he asked if we knew much about bikes. My friend offered that Floyd had ridden bikes in France, to which my friend and Floyd both smiled - but it was clear that our new friend had no idea what we were talking about. After a few more minutes of conversation, our new friend rode off completely unaware that he had just gotten equipment advice from 2006 Tour de France winner Floyd Landis. Such a great, humble guy.

[@JosedeJezeus]

Of all the awesome humans who have lived, doped up bicycle riders are the least impressive.

[@b00man18]

Floyd didn‘t win the Tour 2006!

[@demdjen77]

@@b00man18 No you did.

[@July2023Freemusic]

You say he is humble, but think about it. If Landis says he was in TDF, he would then have to explain his doping and how he got rejected from radio shack and then called out Armstrong like a little girl for doing the same thing😂😂

[@berndtherrenvolk1951]

@@July2023Freemusic Excellent retort, Lance!

[@vanillagorilla8236]

I remember I lot of people were saying lance was a douchebag but until he got caught nobody listened.

[@wvu05]

Something always rubbed me the wrong way about him. The most delicious part of his comeuppance was, after the lifetime ban, he decided to enter a master's swim meet. That is, until USADA said "What part of 'lifetime ban from all sports sanctioned by us' do you not understand?"

[@skippythealien9627]

The European media definitely knew that Armstrong was a dickhead from day 1 but Armstrong had powerful friends and deep connections in the U.S. sports media. So naturally you had organizations like ESPN and OLN (which was just a fucking fishing channel until they got Tour de France rights) routinely kissing his ass and making him look like a martyr and this "badass American" against those "snooty Europeans" i was a young kid at the time so i bought into all of that horseshit. So embarrassing to look back on it 20+ years later

[@PhilAndersonOutside]

Nothing really new here. Surprised at all the comments trashing Floyd. He's mostly just saying what he saw and felt. Take it for what you may.

[@brianpruett114]

Phil Anderson Take your sunglasses off you look as stupid as your comment!!! Liberalism is truly a mental disorder and you proved it again!!!

[@ramonsanabria1472]

Phil Anderson You're right !

[@SuperDannyb1975]

Phil I agree- Floyd is not the best at doing interviews but he does seem very straight forward and not full of shit. Even if he got to a point where he was looking after number one by coming clean ( as Brett Connor says below I just noticed) he's always seemed Blunt and honest so I have to admire him for that if nothing else.

[@hossesarse]

All the comments trashing Landis are clearly made by butthurt Lance fans. 8D

[@SuperDannyb1975]

Calamari Chris funnily enough I was going to say earlier that I've always had the feeling it's mostly Lance Lovers that trash Landis. Landis is no saint of course, but I never understood why anyone would love Armstrong so much- I always knew he was on the gear it SHOULD have been obvious to anyone who races at even a low amateur level. Even purely from a cycling entertainment point of view- as brilliant as Armstrong was (within the context of drug assisted performance) why did people enjoy watching a robotic domination of the race for all those years? as Boring as watching Sampras dominate Wimbledon and Schumacher Formula one. Ullrich, for example, was at least much more human, fallible and likeable.

[@dinoaustralia7752]

Floyd seems so much more genuine as a person than Lance ever will be.

[@mariapilarme]

I think Floyd was raised as Mennonite he has a religious upbringing with a loving extent family. Lance Amstrong’s father left him and he learned from his mother to hate him. One was taught love the other one to hate.

[@July2023Freemusic]

Landis literally cheated hard, got rejected by Radio Shack and then became a whistleblower because he couldn’t handle the rejection. Literally couldn’t be more of a pathetic sore loser.

[@TheAiDaN2110]

He wrote an entire book professing his innocence. Lol.

[@Lexx1976]

Steve Zahn as "Floyd Landis"

[@misterskins]

Yeah right!

[@gerade-aus]

Glad that I searched the comments. So true. That thing you do!

[@DavidSmith-iz8fw]

I've never heard a nice thing about Lance

[@Marcus538]

Lance is a very good bloke

[@bibiayube677]

How about 500,000,000 for cancer,what good did you do for others?

[@Cybercrayon]

Two words: corporate salaries

[@sevenrats]

It's true. Nobody who knows him as ever said anything nice about him. Actually the opposite is true. He must be a total douche bag. He seems to have no long term friends.

[@joego7924]

@Arduino Stein just like the mob and the drug Lord's, give money to the poor and start a foundation to try and redeem urself for being a scumbag!

[@decoeric]

I lived in Aspen for a few years and would see Lance around town. I can say he is hated there.

[@chadclemen]

Who is better?

[@decoeric]

@@chadclemen Better at cheating? That would be Lance.

[@chadclemen]

@@decoeric they all cheat. He still won.

[@Antifogasta]

@@chadclemen No, they don't all cheat. Plus, it's one thing to cheat and another to be a complete A hole. I feel sorry for the guy but his attitude and behaviour are reprehensible.

[@chadclemen]

@@Antifogasta cope better.

[@LucasPenido]

It’s crazy to see how arrogance is always brought to its knees sooner or later! Armstrong thought he was the ish and treated everyone as inferior: now, he’s synonym with being a disgrace in the sport (not only in cycling).

[@justtestingonce]

Nope. You’d be right if cycling was a clean sport.

[@LucasPenido]

@@justtestingonce Sure, but he pushed it too far.

[@JK-vc7ie]

He has tens of millions in the bank and has never had to have a real job. Rode a bike fir a living. Traveled the world in great luxury. If that’s being brought to your knees then sign me up.

[@LucasPenido]

@@JK-vc7ie You certainly haven’t worked with high profile clients/people. Power and Prestige are just as important (if not more) than money to them. Why do you think he kept going until he got caught? Even after having millions in the bank? The same goes for CEO’s, and other athletes. It’s not just about the money for them.

[@tman5634]

The way Landis describes Armstrong, In a long life i've witnessed a few such people like this & my interpretation of each was 'what a horrible horrible self centred & damaged individual' The wrotten truth came out about Armstrong & it's evident the people that have since bothered with him at all, are those that are of a similar guilty ilk.

[@humankind7355]

I’ve had the pleasure of running into Floyd a few times on different occasions while cycling out in the Temecula/Fallbrook areas of Southern California. It was about 8 years ago during his time with the Ouch cycling team and he was a real class act, I mean just as nice as it gets. During a training ride in Temecula he stopped to allow me to grab a photo with him and we chatted for about 5 minutes, on abother occasion he recalled me at a gas station when I said Hello to him and he took a pic with my son, but on a ride in Fallbrook, a tough hilly area, this was the first time I interacted with him, he rode next to me and motivated me to a top of a pretty good climb, I was a newbie at this point, but he flagged his sag vehicle up to us and told me and my friend to have a great ride and to be safe. The sag vehicled made sure we were ok in the 100 degree plus heat and fueled my friend and I with hydration, bars, and gu’s then happily departed us. I cant say how cool of a feeling that was. We all go through crap in life, but how we interact with one another will always last, which is why I have a great regard for the few times I’ve ran into Floyd. If you read this Mr Landis, thanks for the cool memories and the small talk. GODSPEED.

[@uberkloden]

Did Floyd autograph a copy of “Positively False,” for you?

[@-First-Last]

Nice !

[@MrCheckitout123]

the one thing is we should never forget is the whole bunch of talented clean cyclist that were never able to achieve greatness due to these dopers. also, USADA and WADA never caught Lance (domestic or international), they are corrupt as well.

[@213tpg]

So true. Frustrating hearing all the people saying he won fair cause everyone was doping. Lots of very talented athletes turned away from the sport because of the doping, some continued but without success.

[@vivek27789]

@@213tpg Okay name me 10 cyclists who had true potential to win Tour de France and never doped during the career...And don't bloody say random names...Name cyclists who won other major races and yet never doped during their career and failed to win tour de france....So i m now waiting for ur list....And for your last arguement nobody joined cycling thinking they will dope through it to success...All of them were talented and sincere but since it was so prevalent and system so rotten that a real contender knew he couldn't just win on hardwork and skill....Those u say never doped knew deep down that even with doping that they won't win therefore why take the bloody risk.....The whole cycling world was a bloody pigshit stink and if u can't accept that fact then either u r in denial or u r an ignorant moron.

[@kennethlucas7473]

"I don't even care"....My Man!! 👍👍

[@AverageAngel]

dang shows you his disdain

[@JosedeJezeus]

He has no idea, that's why.

[@RikiNewtonMusicianSongwriter]

Admire Landis for his honesty - strikes me as a good guy generally who - like many riders - got roped into Armstrong’s net of control that was obviously almost impossible to rail against. At least we got to the truth eventually.

[@litedawg]

You are completely wrong. He wanted to be on Lances team so Lance could show him what it takes to be an International racer.And Lance did, Floyd signed on the Phonak team as the leader making big bucks. Then when he didnt get what he wanted he cried and turned into a whistleblower. Floyd is mad that hes not Lance.

[@pjgarcia2417]

@@litedawg Only LA or Landis would be able to say this because no one else was privy to any of that information. And we know you're not Landis, so.......hello, Lance. Nice to see you're as narcissistic as ever!

[@uberkloden]

Sorry, Floyd was as much a doper as Lance, however, when Floyd was busted, after he won the Tour de France, Floyd wrote a book, “Positively False,” which proved Floyd to be on par with Lance, in lying.

[@July2023Freemusic]

@@pjgarcia2417Lol Landis only came out after getting rejected from Radio shack. He is a fat sellout😂😂

[@bellavia5]

I believe Landis but remember he wrote a whole book professing his innocence.

[@darinvint4495]

He’s a liar too

[@bellavia5]

@@darinvint4495 yes

[@phililpb]

@@bellavia5 He seemed happy to along with Lance whilst he benefited from it

[@bellavia5]

@@phililpb Yeah sure. But after Landis got busted Lance did'nt want him on the team anymore -which -incidentally -started the whole downfall of Lance. Lance went to USADA with all the inside knowledge he had about EPO use on the Postal team and that was the beginning of the end.

[@DarkSaint411]

"whatever it takes God dammit" Rich Piana, Lance Armstrong's life coach I guess.

[@rocketman6001]

Right Babe.....

[@FreshCoolBreeze]

RIP Ricardo Pianoman, 1971 -2017.

[@Underhills]

Mr. Piana did Ben & Jerry's. That's madness. Not even pro cyclists touched that.

[@NickCager]

good fuckin morning!

[@schmidtythekidd]

Whatever it takes sure, but I haven't found anyone saying the Rich was a bully or a jerk. It's very much the opposite with Lance. you can be at the top of your field, but if people don't have good things to say about you it is really worth it.

[@davida1679]

I loved watching Floyd Landis race as a pro and I believe every word he’s saying in this interview!

[@July2023Freemusic]

How about when he said he didn’t do any doping, did you believe him then? The man is a sellout who only went after Armstrong because he is a loser and got rejected.

[@sebgold5841]

I recently watched the BBC documentary on Armstrong, he also bullies is wife. What a parasite! Well done Floyd for standing up to this bully!

[@einsteindarwin8756]

Great interview please keep them coming!

[@British_Ar5ehole_In_Exile]

I feel sorry for the people who put all that effort into succeeding, only for Lance Armstrong to end up bullying them. In my experience, all *I* have to do to get a load of verbal abuse from a cyclist is to simply go for a walk along any public footpath in Britain.

[@KatieWilliams1990x]

Tell me about it, British cyclists think they can do whatever they want and don't realise that on a mixed use public footpath NO ONE has right of way and that cyclists should sound their bell and slow down when approaching a pedestrian. The worst bunch are the tour de France wannabe's who have racing bikes and wear that ridiculous full lycra. Those people have serious anger management issues. Though the funniest thing I've seen where I walk were these two cyclists in full lycra, riding racing bikes that cost around £5000 each and they didn't have the fitness to ride up a tiny little hill (more of a bump) that had around 15m of elevation change. They actually had to unclip their feet and push their bikes up the hill (bump). It wasn't as if they'd been riding for miles and were exhausted either as neither of them had broken a sweat. I've seen them twice now (months apart) and they still push their expensive road bikes up the tiny little bump haha.

[@todd92371]

This is really sad. I'm a rider and always either slow down big time or say, "Thank you" repeatedly. Bikes are fast and I don't want to ruin their walk! I'm in the US though and it's usually on the streets where you have to fight back or die. lol

[@July2023Freemusic]

@@KatieWilliams1990xJust don’t go more than 2 people wide and we wont have a problem. And btw I hope your jogging not walking considering you’re trying to hate on others. I’d laugh if your body mass index is over 25😊

[@Underhills]

They have moved on to Formula X3000 now. EPO is a thing of the past. The doping hunters are always three steps behind.

[@cmetube]

Both these guys in the interview seem like very nice guys. Everyone should have respectful intelligent people like them in their lives.

[@mtadams2009]

My friend gave me Lances book to read, I think it was in 2000, my friend who thought the world of Lance ask me what I thought and I said Lance seems like a very selfish person and full of himself. I never bought what he was selling because I have learned if its seems to good to be true, it probably is. I don"t have all these negative feeling like a read maybe because I always thought he was full of shit.

[@Mark-hu9tf]

As a kid I used to worship LA. I've since watched a lot of docs on him and whilst he was and still is a phenomenal athlete he is also a terrible human being.

[@andrewbroberts62]

Maybe you’re just a pussy

[@trivellekoolaidrian6921]

To "worship" any human being is pathetic. You literally worship someone that peddles far? Gay

[@chrisgilligan8662]

I'm not sure if you also watched any docs on Tiger Woods, or Michael Jordan....but sometimes it takes a strong personality to push yourself harder than anyone else is prepared to push themselves. Landis makes it seem a little like LA didn't have to work hard to be at the top....that it all came easily for him. It isn't the case - he was just driven to put in more effort and preparation than everyone else. I bet he still cashed all the checks that he got working for Lance's team.

[@WatersAbove77]

Trivelle Koolaidrian lol

[@johnnylee8194]

@@chrisgilligan8662 lots of people drive themselves hard to be best but don't cross boundaries ya idiot

[@gkniffen]

I love this guy. He’s roasting him 😂👍

[@BradMason2014]

He's a puss that is jealous. He did the same exact thing as Lance yet wants to crucify Armstrong for it. Hypocrite.

[@Putinhuylo3]

@@BradMason2014 Exactly. ”Lance enjoyed making other people lose, I enjoyed winning” Floyd ”the royalty of butthurt” Landis.

[@domestique3954]

Floyd is actually a nice guy!

[@arcdestriumph586]

Landis " I'm here to put Lance down" Also Landis " Lance was a bad guy for puting people down" Lol - what an idiot.

[@ikerartolasoria9246]

A cheater roasting another cheater,both🤡🤡

[@samuelwoods164]

I turned against him years ago, maybe around his 5th win, a friend of mine stayed in the next villa to him In Mexico at new year, they were both leaving at the same time and my friend said hello or some other pleasantry and Lance just stared at him with a dirty look, sounded like a dick move.

[@chadclemen]

Boo Hoo! Lol

[@berndtherrenvolk1951]

@@chadclemen You're so funny, Lance!

[@chadclemen]

@@berndtherrenvolk1951 GFYS 👍

[@lornamurdocheaton624]

There's an interesting mindset amongst a lot of commenters here who feel "ratting" on Armstrong was deplorable (forgetting perhaps, that Landis and others were indemnified, to an extent, for doing so) and even that doping was alright in the greater scheme of things, because "winning is everything". Unpleasant people.

[@pjgarcia2417]

Agree 100% Makes you wonder about how they're raising their kids. "It's OK to cheat, lie, steal, ruin lives and shoot up drugs, Johnny. As long as you win a race, that's all that matters." Disgusting amoral people.

[@2oldn2slow]

Seeing L.A. on Rich Roll trying to command the dialogue and his irritating attitude was grating.

[@mauryeetss3561]

As soon as the whole doping gig started to unravel, I haven’t heard a positive thing about lance or from lance. It’s really upsetting because when I was a young kid I’d watch and idolize him. And what’s more is that it seems like the peloton he rode with agrees with Floyd’s sentiments.

[@jon4539]

Tbf doping was going on long before Lance started racing and Floyd got caught big time the year after

[@mauryeetss3561]

@@jon4539 I’m well aware of that but that doesn’t change the fact that many other riders from his own team and competing teams all seemed to really dislike lance for reasons other than just his doping.

[@jon4539]

@@mauryeetss3561 yes this maybe true but he was a American in a french race and us postal would have never been liked , I watch Lance and hincapie in the move podcast and he comes across as a funny guy but everyone has different views on him

[@Raffini]

Lance himself would agree with Floyd now. He's come around to admit that he was an asshole and says he regrets hurting people. I think the bully inside of him will never truly leave, but at least he's aware these days he was wrong.

[@JB-uv4hm]

Some people come to competition through anger. They often never find peace or wisdom.

[@jackjones3657]

Ironic how in a team sport the top dog was all about himself. Perhaps that's the greatest indictment of Mr Armstrong.

[@HTHAMMACK1]

There is no team in that sport. Everyone of them was cheating their ass off to win in one of the dirtiest sports ever.

[@jdujnd173]

“he didn’t have a lot of friends” damn that hurt

[@steveniemi9299]

Were you both in the same room? The audio hiss on Floyd''s interview doesn''t exist on Graham's audio.

[@DolleHengst]

Bullies exist because others accept being bullied. Even though he was your captain, he was also a skinny 150 lbs cancer survivor with one nut. Nothing a real man can't handle.... using just one hand

[@CharlieAligaen]

I feel less sympathetic to Lance because Landis explains his real personality: Bully.

[@TGShunai]

I feel less sympathetic towards Landis after this interview lmao. He doesn't come across as genuine to me, rather trying to save is own ass at the expense of someone else. He tried to become the next Lance and when that didn't work out, he started talking. He isn't genuine, he's hypocritical. Even after he was caught and served his time, he tried to join Lance's team when he made a comeback in 2009. Lance denied the request and then he came out with his story. When he got caught, he didn't realize what he was doing was bad and he should come clean. No, after a 2 year ban he ASKED LANCE if he could join his team. Don't you see how hypocritical that is? He literallt wanted to ride alongside Lance AGAIN.

[@El_Que_Vee]

I recall decades ago I wanted to visit Mellow Johnny's, a bike shop owned by Lance. Being a Lance follower, I admired his mindset and tenacity. One day I showed up in Texas for a College graduation party, a friend of a friend from Austin had so many negative stories about Lance. They knew Lance outside of cycling. They said he was a real jerk to everyone even in Austin. I being a fan of Lance ignore them. Years later I'm reading all these folks saying what we already knew. Im glad I never met him personally.

[@bellavia5]

Good point -do you want to win -or-see the other guy lose.

[@cleofaspingarron]

Seems like Lance was the Stalin of cycling

[@rockhopper01]

“No desire to stay…” Well, Mr. Landis, until you were busted for doping yourself and BEGGED Lance for a spot in Radio Shack.

[@davidlynch9049]

Lance fed them all dope eventually. Drug pusher.

[@janmeyer3129]

There are current calls to have Lance Armstrong “come in from the cold”, as if the drug cheating was the only thing he did wrong, ignoring the lying, corruption, bullying etc. the answer is NO, he should never be “rehabilitated”. It would be good if people stopped discussing him, so that he just faded from memory. One of the justified uses of cancel culture. And a suitable way to deal with narcissists

[@BroScro]

lol “one of the justified uses of cancel culture”? aka he’s someone you dont like. nice. this whole comment section is a witch hunt on lance armstrong, spurred by Landis (the guy that got caught and then snitched when armstrong wouldnt let him rejoin his team) talking bad about the guy. landis hates armstrong, and he’s a sleeze.

[@rainabeveridge2495]

He was so tactful, so much respect

[@NealyLL]

This interview misses how good Floyd was. He was an awesome cyclist who given the opportunity would’ve at least matched LA... at least .

[@ralphbourgeois5875]

@Gavan Hogan Yeah like Pereiro probably was not doping too.

[@aussiemma8426]

So you’re saying given the opportunity Landis would have won 7 Tour de france’s at the very least ?

[@ralphbourgeois5875]

@@aussiemma8426 Most cyclists who are top 50 in the world at a given point in time could win atleast 7 Tour de France titles with all the advantages Lance had. The most sophisticated doping, doctors, handlers, protectors, an entire team built around and working just for you during the Tour de France races, and so on. It would be like candy from a baby for any decent international cyclist.

[@aussiemma8426]

Ralph Bourgeois I don’t think your analogy of stealing candy from a baby fits for such a difficult race as the Tour de France. Yes Armstrong had many advantages but there is always a head of any cycling group in the tour and each one is always protected by the others in their respective teams. I had issue with the original comment saying Landis could have won 7 tour de france’s at least which is just not true at all, sure Armstrong had the best of everything but he also had a fierce competitiveness that was unmatched which was a massive part of the reason he won so many tours.

[@ralphbourgeois5875]

@@aussiemma8426 We did not see what Landis would have done had he not gotten busted his first year as team leader on a team working backwards for him and starting to supply him with the best dope, ala Lance. He of course won his first year with those advantages, with many more to come. Who knows if he wins 7, nobody thought Lance would win 7. I hate Landis all well so really don't give half a shit, but nothing would surprise me. What I would bet is Greg LeMond (a far more talented and equally hard working and determined cyclist to Lance) probably wins atleast 10 with all the advantages Lance had, and if he doped. Many others. Anyone who tries to still argue Lance is the GOAT (fuck he never was even before he was caught, he is a 1 race wonder with the strongest team ever, in a weak era with no all time greats) is crazy and delusional, even more than those who say Landis or Hamilton or some other rogue person could win 7 with all Lance's advantages.

[@lancearmstrong1350]

I was never tested positive.

[@yiyoink]

You were tested positive. You just made bloody sure it never got out.

[@hawk992]

kappa

[@wallyvoight659]

...and you were never honest with the public. Not until you were caught anyway.

[@007tcby]

Lance for most of us it never was about the drugs. It was how you treated others. You never did admit that Betsy told the truth about the hospital room interview.

[@ricofiori3327]

Lance Armstrong we're at the point where it's time to heal. That may be the most difficult journey we take.

[@hawaiilawhawaii6174]

Tyler Hamilton said he was the most "intense" rider he'd ever met, which meant that winning was everything to him, so maybe he was a bully - but Landis shouldn't complain about him (if that's what he's doing) given his own record.Lance definitely wasn't a nice guy on the tour or off. Sports (& the TDF) is full of guys like him, so you gotta figure he's just one of them. Can't argue with his greatness as a rider. (Hinault was no angel either).

[@tylerbam7183]

What greatness as a rider. 0 Tour de France titles, 0 Olympic Golds, 0 other major Tour titles. He achieved nothing in teh sport that he hasnt been stripped of.

[@dickthebirthdayboy2132]

@@tylerbam7183 PREACH!

[@Johnny-xj5qu]

As soon as Armstrong’s best and most loyal friend saw a vile of steroids and asked Lance about it, Lance immediately cancelled his friend. He was dead to him immediately

[@mmoser9483]

really? Because, I thought the enhancer that Lance used was blood doping? Or, was the blood doping to hide the EPO?

[@nakedsnake6076]

source?

[@Johnny-xj5qu]

@@nakedsnake6076 I apologize. It’s a magazine article I read in the 2000’s. This guy was such a close friend, his wife Kristen used to refer to him as “Husband #2”. He found a vile of EPO, asked Lance about it, and was immediately dead to Lance, cut off as his friend completely. I cannot remember the magazine, and I’ve tried Google searches to find it, but cannot. So no official source to reference

[@edmcguigan3501]

So was Hinault and perhaps many other "top" guys.

[@carbonking53]

All of the top level cycling teams had a doping program and most all the riders were on it in Lance and Floyd's days in cycling. The UCI knew it and all the Grand Tour organizers knew it and looked the other way because it made for the most incredible races and riders the sport of cycling has ever or will ever see again. Lance brought more viewers, riders, and money to cycling than anyone before or after him. If not for Lance cycling would still be an unknown sport in the US and other place in the world. Love him or hate him those are just the facts. Like Tiger in golf and Jordan in basketball all winners have a driven prickish personality. They got inside their competitors heads and crushed their will and then physically destroyed them. P.S......doping is still in cycling and sports. It's just done more carefully and on micro dosing levels. Don't kid yourself that it's disappeared.

[@nicko5945]

Amen to that! Lance is a terrible human being, but I find it really funny that people seem to see Floyd as some sort of hero whistle blower now. He is the same as lance in my opinion. Not someone who should be revered at all.

[@litedawg]

@@nicko5945 Absolutely- hes actually worse than Lance imo.

[@joseftullen6372]

I agree he put cycling on the map. I like to say that I don't care if he was high as a kite, for seven summers he gave us all a natural high. His duals in the mountains were epic. The peds gave those events an edge they don't have now. I don't take drugs but watching Lance and the others made me feel as if I were on something. So exciting! Such a spectacle! Jordan was an a hole I've heard but you couldn't take your eyes off him. Same with Tiger. Lance was PT Barnum and David Copperfield all at once. I know I got my money's worth. But it isn't too late for him to make amends to those he may have hurt. He should get some advice from Paul Finebaum. I've heard paul used to be a dick now he's a really liked and great guy!

[@pjgarcia2417]

Greg LeMond put US cycling on the map and it's not true that all teams had a program and/or most riders were in on it. Plenty of riders have testified otherwise. What gives you the right to make such a blanket statement about pro cyclists? Are you on LA's marketing team that has made up & promoted the lie "everyone was doing it" in order to justify his own behavior? If you're promoting his big lie for free then that's not a very good return on investment for your valuable time on earth.

[@uberkloden]

@@pjgarcia2417 Major Taylor put cycling on the map. Study Taylor, top cyclist in the World, American. After that LeMond of course. Lance Armstrong, after LeMond. You may hate Lance, but he sold more bicycles, got more people riding, and gave hope to cancer survivors. Everything else about Lance, important, but in big picture, Lance was good for the sport.

[@Mr46ser]

Mr. Bensinger, your interviews are great.

[@peggie7126]

M. Dieng It’s like being in a therapy session!!

[@aaacomp1]

Good interviews, extremely bad hair. OOF.

[@ttmallard]

Was a Landis fan in the day, the peloton knew, riders were his slaves by fealty, common in feudal systems, they were like gladiator slaves, not world class pros, it was obvious to many fans. Greg Lemond's star still shines, he brought a lot back to the sport Armstrong never will.

[@arncj18]

it's funny how L doesn't like the Lemond section and the Landis section in his ESPN doc, i hope LeMond's bicicle line still sells and by now his business came back to what it was.

[@Lerch-zc3ww]

Landis threatened LeMond about revealing his abuse while LeMond was encouraging, not threatening, Landis to admit his doping for his own psychological good.

[@pjgarcia2417]

LeMond is a national treasure, a true hero and a class act. He knew what was going on but was careful to not make public accusations or hurt anyone and because LA saw him as a threat anyway he ruined him financially. What a travesty.

[@steveducell2158]

Greg LeMond 3 time winner of the Tor De France and would ride the full schedule of races............without cheating that is who we should remember and talk about

[@tomkemmerer8285]

Greg lamond greatest american cyclists.

[@ralphbourgeois5875]

Greg is a WAY more talented and superior cyclist to Lance Pharmstrong, and more importantly a way better man and human being too.

[@simonthomsen8578]

steve ducell of course lemond was doped, the whole peloton was probably doped as well. Just because he said "I won the TDF without doping," does that really make it so? Sorry to burst your bubble, but everyone's a liar in this fucking sport, get used to it

[@albertbatfinder5240]

“He has no friends” doesn’t mean much in the professional arena, but in the private world it hits hard. Is it true? Is there no one who would drop in to share a beer with Lance on a hot summer’s day, just for the heck of it? I suspect there isn’t.

[@SoftStationMusic]

How ironic. A cyclist named 'armstrong'. Bloody spindly armed devil

[@marccarter1350]

I remember a track rider who had just switched to road cycling saying that he was high as a kite. On the juice, a total bellend. Brad Wiggins had a point!

[@CraigKeene]

Currently, I’m watching Filthy Rich doc on Netflix. The description here of Armstrong’s personality is almost exactly how Epstein is being described.

[@WatersAbove77]

He didn’t really describe much except for the fact that Lance was a bully and narcissistic. There are a lot of people like that.

[@brucekilby9957]

Egotist control freak would be a word to describe,Epstein,Armstrong and Trump. They all have that same M.O.Im the boss get lost Loser and great honesty from Floyd.So many stories now about this creep same with Epstein and Trump,all criminals.

[@simonbagel]

@@brucekilby9957 Classic Trump Derangement Syndrome on display.

[@joeluns74]

Why wouldn’t you just interview lance . Basically interview this guy and ask only question about someone else

[@joeluns74]

Wow ! Dummy ! Really . Who’s the bully now . What a rude individual.

[@craigmacfarlane2722]

@@joeluns74 If you just interview Lance, until he was caught. He would still be claiming he was innocent. The biggest cheat in history in any sport.He even sued people and won millions for calling him a cheat. That's why you just don't interview Lance...

[@Velo1010]

Nope. He wasn't nice. And team players in the NFL may not be any different. It's a tough sport.

[@briseboy]

To the psychopaths among us.

[@PS987654321PS]

You’re a fucking moron.

[@Velo1010]

@@PS987654321PS hehehe! You don’t know who L.A. is. Cat grabber!

[@PS987654321PS]

@@Velo1010 I know two things: 1. Lance Armstrong is very uncool 2. You are a stupid person.

[@V1KTOR33]

“ I don’t even care”! Fahkin killed it with that one!

[@tchender1]

I owned a body shop in Duncanville Texas, and Lance's dad Eddie was one of my customers. Also Lance's step brother Bruce worked for me as a painter. Ed has long since passed but in the obit. Lances is named in the obit but under his paternal last name as "Gunderson" not Armstrong.

[@tchender1]

@Derek Sandy What kind of info were you looking for?

[@tchender1]

Ok. Here's some lifestyle info. Kinda like you, Lance is an asshole. Better? Lol.

[@tchender1]

@Derek Sandy I actually laughed out loud with the Russell Crowe comparison. I have never heard that before. Lol.

[@davidlynch9049]

@Derek Sandy Another Lance fanboy to his rescue! Did you get your signed autograph picture from him yet (really believing it is real because you are a tool)?

[@hayabusa27]

A lot people expect winners like Lance to be nice gentlemen, they should try winning sometimes

[@brownb2947]

What did he win ? I thought he lost his 7 title because of doping ...

[@trolley4388]

@@brownb2947 right BUT remember that the entire system was rotten. Not just Armstrong.

[@GuitarWithBrett]

Media loved lance for so long

[@theresa4bar]

It sounds like the descriptive word of who Lance Armstrong is, besides a bully/entitled, is he's a narcissist.

[@random-nz7dy]

I feel like all the greatest athletes of their sports have to have that unlikeable component to their personality. Brady gets psychotic about winning and berates teammates. other legendary athletes don't always necessarily seem like a super warm fuzzy person. You don't get to the top by being somebody that everybody likes. You get to the top by doing whatever the F it takes lol

[@mmoser9483]

George Patton was that way too.

[@jessecumings4134]

Cristiano Ronaldo is by all accounts super lovely

[@random-nz7dy]

@@jessecumings4134 it's not that I don't think they can be really cordial to fans and that sort of thing I just said that some component of their personality has to get there. maybe it's like Brady where he seems like a really nice guy and interviews and when he meets fans but during the game and practice he just gets ridiculously intense and will scream at you for screwing up. But you're playing with the goat and winning titles so you'll take it.

[@abone2pick]

All the grears are a little fucked up in the head. Look at how intense Michael jordan was. Look at an athlete like cristino Ronaldo who's super arrogant. Floyd Mayweather, connor McGregor, even nyjah Huston.

[@ichwill7536]

Bradys well known for bringing team mates together. Look at AB and how fast his attitude changed even when he was with brady on the patriots. Passion for the game and hearing the tone being spoke on the field/sidelines isnt a far comparison to someone sitting in the stands or at ho.e

[@bradford_shaun_murray]

An insider's story - that's the interest factor despite what you think of Landis.

[@UnssenX]

Maybe i missed something, but i didn't catch Landis saying that Lance was a *"jerk"* in that interview.

[@calebjanus2000]

A bully is a jerk.

[@stevenreiss]

as far as I can see, his european counterparts never had a day in court on any count, nor ever paid a cent on any charges of doping - but he was and is a hero cyclist with great physical talents and attributes.

[@neutronalchemist3241]

His talent is in a syringe.

[@HkFinn83]

Pantani - publicly disgraced, now dead Ullrich - publicly disgraced, now suffering severe mental health problems Armstrong - still a multi multi multi millionaire with no real remorse

[@lukabobic2892]

You try the same thing,only got cought...😂... Common guy...there are tigers,there are kittens...miau,miau...LA7 😈

[@NC-ck5oj]

Lance Armstrong got caught too...LA...0

[@nickmc1142]

He's right that Lance is a bully. He seems like a fun guy but you can detect his bullying tendencies on his podcast.

[@Jdeez-i5p]

This guys breathing is driving me insane

[@maxreturn34]

Dude, I thought I was the only one

[@phililpb]

@@maxreturn34 bad microphone placement

[@gladegoodrich2297]

Beat cancer and won 7 tours! Got to be a strict drill sargent, if you want good soldiers! STILL A HERO!

[@NxDoyle]

I wonder if people still yell liar and cheat at Lance when they see him? I'd like to think so. Reap what you sow.

[@billbobaggins801]

You will also be judged in your life! You are not perfect, and you have sinned in your life. Oh.....Mr. perfect I bet right??

[@lm7_gio]

you r just dumb as a cucumber

[@tman5634]

The way Landis describes Armstrong, In a long life i've witnessed a few such people like this & my interpretation of each was 'what a horrible horrible self centred & damaged individual' The wrotten truth came out about Armstrong & it's evident the people that have since bothered with him at all, are those that are of a similar guilty ilk.

[@colinoverton790]

I'm not sure all "winners" aren't like Armstrong, plus or minus the drugs.

[@johnnyscanadianlifestyle8285]

I ahree, there are alot of reasons to win

[@Rex93241]

I used to still admire Lance, after this series of interviews, Lance’s power went way past just doping. Intimidation, bullying, aggressive behavior to teammates. If it was just doping, fine, but he was a monster in the sport. Absolutely not as gifted as an athlete that he may come off.

[@17Peloton]

The interviewer absolutely gets on my nerves.

[@avenuePad]

Shawn Clark I know, right. He's got douche written all over his face.

[@gillescordier8033]

Shawn Clark agreed. Totally bizarre...

[@frankmc5021]

I got the feeling it was his first day on the job.

[@pink43560]

The interviewer doesn’t do sports. Saw that on an interview with John Daly. He knows his sports as a fan though...

[@nicholashord144]

Dude's sort of creepy

[@patrickmaduro9902]

When you want something. You have to go and get it. It doesn’t matter what the price might be. You know how many have not or has not been caught yet? Because nobody wants to go back and investigate the other nice guys 🙏👍

[@davidthornton4001]

Ya know, Lance was probably all that's been said, but no one here has ever raised their self to that level and mindset to dominate a sport. Drugs a given, he owned the tour de France.

[@MONKLJ]

Floyd I totally believe in what your saying about Lance. Ever since you blew the whistle on him, and doping, I lost respect for him. he kept saying he would never, but he did, it crushed me and my love for cycling, and watching any of the TOURS, or cycling as a sport. He betrayed his team, you, the US of A, and bike racing in general. Let it go Floyd, don't let it eat you up.

[@Pkkct]

Bet that was fun just talking about Lance the whole damn time

[@Bradford0007]

There's 3 sides to this story; Floyd, Lance and the truth!

[@paksta]

I agree. The truth is Floyd's being way too kind and diplomatic in his assessment.

[@rsmenton]

I dislike people saying they were bullied. Stand up for yourself or walk away. Compliance with a bully, as stated, is weakness. Continued weakness is cowardice. Cowardice has no friend.

[@cycleoflife565]

He is speaking on his experiences with Lance. That he was a bully to....everyone. It's just your issue that you don't like to hear it.

[@beverleylumb8048]

Look how long he said he was clean so why should people believe what he says now without asking why he is saying it

[@kurtcasanova4161]

Sure but they loved him when he was winning everything!

[@ALong-fo5so]

He was my hero and really admired him for his fight against cancer. Well now we know.

[@cesarjom]

Anyone that has watched Lance Armstrong's WEDU podcasts knows he's not a jerk nor a bully. Being a straight shooter and expressing candid opinions as LA does is not being a jerk. LA was also a fierce competitor and to this day hates to lose, and that also is not being a jerk... so Landis, being a former professional rider, should learn the difference.

[@AshSmi-pm8rk]

Cesar Omiste tyler hamilton has some interesting stories about lance armstrong bullying him

[@cesarjom]

Let's not conflate issues here. LA is no hero. He used banned substance, EPO, was caught and ultimately paid the highest price. However Landis understood fully the team structure and the program riders on the world tour selection must follow. Landis made his own choice. Do not confuse the personality of LA with "bullying" behavior; that is LA had very high expectations for teammates to execute and deliver on race objectives during grand tours, that's all part of professional bike racing.

[@burprobrox9134]

Back in the early 90s everyone in cycling disliked Lance. I hear it directly from LeMond

[@mtadams2009]

My friend who worshiped Lance let me borrow his book back in 2001 and he ask me what I thought and I said " he seems like a selfish fuck". I did not get a bit inspired by his book, Lance just seemed like a very selfish person, I guess I am not alone.

[@AnalogNoiseLab]

FUGLSANG : KING IN THE NORTH!

[@andyolsen4517]

waht

[@Sills71]

Lance likes to say "it was a bad time" as an excuse for his horrendous behavior. Let me detail just how Lance was so much worse than anyone he raced against. First and foremost, Lance Armstrong is a CRIMINAL, you can watch him commit perjury on KZbin... he abused the legal systems of several countries... failed false claims of slander and libel... and infringement on the civil rights of Americans. Not to mention the fact that the UCI gave him special treatment. Lance Armstrong is the very definition of evil.

[@falconmalcolm]

Are roided up guy beat your roided up guy-bill burr

[@johnrotten3268]

Sounds like a major narcissist. That comes with fame... famous people feel entitled and bully others who they feel are below them.

[@arelortal6580]

Not always , look ať Indurain , Roger Federer, Schumacher etc etc they were always giving credit and praising their teams and entourage

[@mrloop1530]

No, it doesn't come with fame. Loads of famous people are not narcissists, and loads of narcissists are not famous.

[@johnrotten3268]

@@mrloop1530 Uhhh yes it does..... Have you seen how a majority of movie stars and athletes act???? I know some bartenders and waiters who work in Los Angeles and you wouldn't believe some of the shit they have seen with celebrities.

[@bottletree33]

In years to come, Lance Armstrong will be remembered for being a cheat, a scam artist and a down right liar. What a legacy.

[@ralphmalph5191]

Landis wrote a book about LA being a bully but refuses to provide specific examples? Lacks credibility. Kudos to the interviewer for trying to get specifics from Landis, but he should've pressed harder.

[@jorgedominguez2007]

Lance was a very smart guy until his own greediness got the best of him. If Lance had just given $1 or $5 million to the snitch Landis to go away, Lance would have never lost his Tour titles, and most of the world would still be believing his Cinderella story.

[@Stiitchjones]

I wasn't believing his Cinderella story by about 2001. I don't blame Landis for being a snitch, he was harassed by Armstrong when he wanted to leave and move to another team to be GC leader himself, he was probably Armstrong's best climber along with Hamilton. He deserved the chance, but everything was all about Armstrong...he was known to harass the peloton during races it was that bad.

[@miguelpereira9859]

redemption Why didn't these guys just left the team?

[@arkansaswookie]

Because there wasn't another team to go to.

[@theheroinundergroundandchi1622]

arkansaswookie yes the pro peloton is known for having one team only. That’s why lance won 7 years in a row, they were the only team. Complete non sense.

[@denmark39]

Keoni El Salvador thank god he spoke out!

[@mowvu]

what i find so strange is lance's results were almost non existent up to 99. how he thought he deserved the respect before he ramped up his cheating business is beyond me lol.

[@stefandodu6327]

you are wrong he won a world championship,a monument and 2 stages in the tour prior to that he wasn't a regular cyclist he was still really good

[@mowvu]

@@stefandodu6327 not a 7 time back to back tour winner though. the hardest bike race in the world and possibly one of the hardest sporting titles to win once, nevermind SEVEN in a row lol. but i do agree he was better than my original comment was making out.

[@johnfranklin1955]

Armstrong had 3 TDF wins by the time Landis joined Postal...what did he expect??? The Postal team existed because of Lance Armstrong.

[@tellall23]

Floyd Landis one of the biggest joke in sport history..Gets caught then start singing on everyone..

[@mark-1234]

Sounds like they put the mic up Floyd's nose.

[@apxl8r1]

Armstrong sounds like a text book narcissist

[@somguy728]

Narciccists do seem to win alot. That must be grating?

[@apxl8r1]

@@somguy728 They may win the battle but they lose the war. Karma is a bitch. Ask yourself "Would I rather be them or me?" The answer should be easy. They are a shell of a person.