Fluorocarbon vs. Monofilament Line Stress Test Experiment Results!

Time for another edition of the Fluorocarbon VS. Monofilament Line Stress Test!
This comes at the request of an Insider Member that shared a recent study with me stating fluorocarbon is compromised when stretched and continued to be used while monofilament experienced no issues.
So I conducted my own experiment to uncover the truth!
Learn more about this experiment: bit.ly/41vV6hG
If you are fishing with fluorocarbon and fight a big fish or get caught in structure, go ahead and retie your line!!!
If you’re fishing with monofilament, you can continue to fish with it until you visibly see it weakening or there are slight nicks in the line.
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[@Saltstrong]

Learn more about this experiment: bit.ly/41vV6hG

[@bobsmoot2392]

Boy... The Fluoro industry is sure going to hate you for this. But fishermen sure love you, for your honest/scientific work.

[@stevieflax]

I tried Floro for one day on a fishing trip and noticed breaks beat up line after a eight pound pike with a steel wire leader, The line deformed so much I could hardly wait to restring with my usual Trilene. Would I ever waste money on floro again, nope. Trilene works for me and if I had to chose between Walmart's cheapest mono and floro, I'd go with the mono. I'm glad you did this test, it verifies what I discover 5 years ago.

[@joedennehy386]

In New Zealand we are very grateful to the US fishing fraternity for teaching us about soft plastic fishing. Here we use 20 to 15lb braid with 2 metres of 20lb fluorocarbon leader for saltwater fishing for snapper up to 20lbs plus, and even kingfish ( amberjacks cousin) to 40 lbs plus. We like the braid as it has zero stretch, great for moving lures. But we only ever use 2 metres of leader. I just don't see the point in a longer length of invisibility than that. Despite the Berkley reps best efforts.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the comment! If you'd like some additional information from Luke, please visit the full blog on our website and he can provide more explanation. You can find that here: bit.ly/41vV6hG

[@user-up8yo5ek9z]

Brilliant test. You guys are just about the most useful and "Real" source of knowledge "on-line" pun intended. I have been doing tests on mono, fluoro, and braid myself and have found the same result. Mono is definitely stronger and more durable than fluorocarbon. Knots tied in monofilament such as Trilene, Palomar, non-slip loop etc. cinch down and form up far easier and are considerably stronger than the same knot tied in fluoro for the same lb test and/or diameter. Connections to braid with knots like FG and Alberto are stronger too as the braid locks itself into the mono better. Mono also doesn't fatigue and become weak after a few hard pulls like fluoro does. The only thing left is whether Fluorocarbon is harder for fish to "see" than mono. No one has proved this yet as far as I can tell and I'm old enough to remember catching heaps of trout on nylon line and probably cat gut before fluoro was even invented. I reckon fish feel line more than see it anyway and the visibility thing will likely be de-bunked eventually just as the abrasion resistance myth has been already. Line used for testing: Fluorocarbon - Diawa, Shimano, Berkley. Monofilament - Diawa, Shimano, Platypus, Schneider. Braid - Diawa, Shimano, Savage Gear, Platypus. Favorite Leader Line: Shimano Exage Mono & Diawa J Thread Mono. Favorite Braid: Shimano Kairiki 8. Favorite knots: Trilene for everything terminal. Connections to braid - FG with Rizzuto Finish for 12lb and above, Crazy Alberto for 10lb or less.

[@Saltstrong]

Great info! Thanks!

[@ATKR45]

I have similar experience with mono vs fluorocarbon. Fluorocarbon is harder to synch knots with, less abrasion resitant and more expensive per feet. Pure marketing bullshit. I feel so cheated after buying top dollar fluoro and losing fish with it.

[@Rooki3_]

I’m surprised your Saltstrong membership didn’t come with eye protection. I’ll make sure to visit the full blog on the website maybe we can find some there for your next stress test video. Great video btw!

[@Saltstrong]

Glad you enjoyed it! Here's a link to all of the line strength tests we've ever done: www.saltstrong.com/article_categories/fishing-lines/

[@ivanwesley8182]

Great video, thanks for the information!

[@kylebrandstattfishing7270]

Awesome video!

[@lesgarten]

WOW! Awesome video!

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@DavidWGould]

Very interesting. Thanks for this testing. I got rid all my floro long time ago.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for posting the nice comment

[@muskyvictim]

Using 16# sunline sniper on my zillion hd and it's a nightmare , poor zillion ! Line has too much memory and kinks, it's junk basically

[@joedennehy386]

I use 7 feet of fluorocarbon leader, tied onto braid. But the drag setting is way below the advertised breaking strain. 5lbs of drag on a graphite rod, with smooth drag from a Daiwa certate reel, doesn't damage the line at all.

[@michaelkinney6581]

sick test! I was falling into the common recommendation of fluoro leader on my jigging set up but the local tackle shop set me up with a big mono leader for free and i'm gonna stick with it!

[@Saltstrong]

Good stuff!

[@inappropriateangler]

Great video, thank you for this 🙌

[@Saltstrong]

You're welcome! Hope it helped!

[@inappropriateangler]

@@Saltstrong perfect timing, yesterday i had 25lb mono outperforming 30 lb flourocarbon when blacktips started hitting my rigs . Maybe a coincidence but maybe not 😀

[@lucasholmgrenmusic]

With the right rod and reel you'll never stretch it that much. I'll go with flouro even for a 1% increase in bites. Although I do use mono in stained water

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the insight!

[@joedennehy386]

Same here, but just 7 feet of leader, at the end of the braid mainline

[@lrparrish227]

I have to say I was a little disappointed in the flurorcarbon. Retying is a pain. then I am considering the diameter and memory of the lines too. Lots to think about. Great video!!

[@Saltstrong]

You're welcome! Hope it was helpful!

[@1xoch]

One thing to consider....dry test vs wet test. All the testing i have done (a lot) mono soaks up water more and lost 2-3 pounds in breaking strength. Fluoro didn't loose any. I soaked the lines in a bowel of water for an hour.

[@Saltstrong]

Here's a soak test we did on line soaking for abrasion: www.saltstrong.com/fishing-tip/mono-vs-fluoro-soaked-in-water/ What lb strength line were you using in your soak test on strength? Also, what knot(s) were used?

[@steveturko2046]

Really enjoy your tests. Mono it is from here on!

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks Steve

[@CutbaitOnly]

Very interesting. What type of knot was being used? I always use the improve clinch knot.

[@Saltstrong]

The Orvis knot was used to connect all 3 different leader materials

[@dwaynebullock6297]

It would be interesting to see what would happen with longer runs… like how it would be for real. Like try 20feet for the same test and see what happens. To me that would be more real world-ish.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the suggestion! Please visit the full blog on our website and post there. That way, Luke can see and respond to the comment. You can find it here: bit.ly/41vV6hG

[@skindiver61]

You're using a 20 foot leader? I think the test was set up for leader line 3 foot maybe 5. Assuming you had braid on your real. And a lot of people fishing grabbed their leader right next to the fish when they get the fish next to the boat.

[@rigginuts]

Really

[@RagingNana-KindredSpirit50]

Thanks for the info. I'll definitely be sticking with mono!

[@Saltstrong]

Hope it was helpful!

[@RICK82873]

Very interesting. Thank you. When will you do mono vs floro visibility test?

[@Saltstrong]

I'll try to make some more progress on the visibility testing

[@bigjimjr454]

I would love to see these tests done with the line being wet. I think that when a line is stretched and immediately "quenched" in the water, it becomes more brittle and breaks easier. Like when steel is heated up in a forge and quenched in just water, it snaps very easily. Seeing how the fluorocarbon is all kinked up, I think it will react the same way as steel and be even more brittle. Although the opposite could happen as well. The water could keep it from getting brittle.

[@Saltstrong]

Here's an experiment that focused on seeing how lines get impacted by soaking in water: www.saltstrong.com/fishing-tip/mono-vs-fluoro-soaked-in-water/

[@randallmiller572]

Great experiment!

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks! Hope it was helpful!

[@randallmiller572]

@@Saltstrong yes sir! Going back to monofilament. I’ve had a gut feeling about this for a while and just kept buying into the fluorocarbon hype.

[@donaldmorgan9149]

Great test Luke. The only thing lacking is the shock loading that you would get from a fish running against the drag. As a retired Rigger I know rope manufacturers warn to constantly check ropes for shock load stress on both running rigging for sail and work boat and mooring lines. Shock loading would definitely come into play for leaders.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the insight!

[@joedennehy386]

And the bend of the rod, and the drag being set at 1/4 or less of the breaking strain, all good points

[@jamesbarron1202]

I’m the person who ask for this test unless someone else also asked. I almost knew this was a fact from just fishing with both but I wanted to see it done on a scale to verify it in my mind. I don’t use flouro anymore and I’m surprised how many bass pros use it. I guess when your sponsored by a line company and get your line free and can afford to change it often it might be ok. I still won’t use it. My copoly last much longer. Keep it out of sunlight as much as possible and it last a good while. Gamma Polyflex and P-Line CXX are the 2 strongest copolys on the market I’ve tested when actual diameters are equal or very close (rated label test isn’t a fair test) I test by tying both lines to a split ring and pull on both to see which breaks first. Similar to breaking a wishbone. I use a caliper to also verify they’re equal (as possible) in diameter so it’s a fair test. 17 lb Gamma Polyflex is very close to 12 lb P-Line CXX in diameter so if you tested by equal rated poundage the P-Line would destroy the Gamma. Match them by diameters and the Gamma is a tad stronger. Who cares what the poundage on the label says. It’s diameter that matters when your fishing on how it handles. I can take a rope and call it 8 lb test and it would falsely be the strongest 8 lb line on the market but who’d want to fish with it?

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the feedback, James! Please visit the full blog on our website and post there. That way, Luke can respond with his feedback there. You can find it here: bit.ly/41vV6hG

[@joedennehy386]

The reason the pros use it is that it's discernably better. What you are not taking into account is the bend of the rod, and a smooth drag set to just a couple of pounds. This provides great shock absorption and a drag of 5lbs is huge but nowhere near the breaking strain of 20lb. Physics matter

[@jamesbarron1202]

@@joedennehy386 when your in the stuff I normally fish you have to lock your drag down pretty tight or they’ll wrap you up. I fish right down the center of huge cedar trees and hardwoods in deep water. I’ve seen so many guys break flouro setting the hook when using it for a leader you couldn’t get me to use it if it was free. Flouros greatest advantage is sensitivity. I’ll take the strength and abrasion resistance of copoly over sensitivity. I run the line over my finger fishing slow baits so I can feel bites great with copoly.

[@Intimatycal]

Remind me again please why are we using fluoro? I understand that companies want to earn more by selling the "new gen line" snake-oil for ridiculous prices, but why are we not learning from our own personal experience of losing hits when using fluoro, not to mention learning from these tests, I mean... Anyway, I am fully done using fluoro even for tying up bags or other stuff in my home

[@Saltstrong]

The results of the experiment don't lie!

[@rta85]

The Premier brand is a weaker softer line. You have to use the blue label. That’s the strong stuff.

[@wildhorseoutdoors7659]

I can personally say I have seen what the individual mentioned with florocarbon line. With floroclear line during fall chinook season after catching a few larger fish I noticed a kinking in the line around my swivel I pulled on the line and actually broke it by hand went to retie and had the line continue to break on me had to spool off about 50 ft of line before it would not break anymore had to do this about 3 times that day after that I went back to mono now I fish CXX X-tra strong and wouldnt go back.

[@ajgreen868]

I will never ever spool another reel with fluorocarbon. But they makes awesome leaders!

[@Saltstrong]

No doubt!

[@bobsmoot2392]

SW Fl here. I use 10# braid with 20# mono leader. Don't mind tying leader on, but am experimenting with 12# mono, no leader. No extra knot.

[@mikecollett8513]

Where do you set your drag? 25-30% of line strength? 50%? This doesn't seem to mimic the real world on the water. Spit balling an ideas but wouldn't setting up a test mimicking a hook set with the actual rod, reel, and drag setting be more applicable? Especially when you consider what length leaders folks use. Loved your line test videos in the past. This is good stuff too. All the best. (if you are inclined, you can look up Elastic deformation vs Plastic Deformation for tensile testing)

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the feedback! Glad you've found these helpful. We will be doing more line test in the future. If you'd like, please check out the full blog on our website and post your question there. That way, Luke can respond directly with this feedback and input. You can find that here: bit.ly/41vV6hG

[@manuelmvega7040]

Hi where did you got that testing machine thank you.

[@anthonyperotti151]

Did you wet the knots? Also, are they fry tests or was the line in water first…then tested?

[@Toisornottoam]

Hey Luke, love your tests but I must be missing something in this case ( its a habit of mine.... doesn't surprise me 🙂). Certainly easy to understand the superior abrasion resistance of mono that you have tested previously, but what is the real world application of the test results here, given that your standard setup is 20# leader with 10# braid....isn't the 10# braid going to snap first with either mono or fluorocarbon? regardless of the deterioration in leader strength that you nicely demonstrated in your tests? And if this is the case, is it important whether mono or flour is superior in the regard demonstrated?Also regarding your comments that the break will always happen at the knot, do we know if the break occurs on the leader material or the braid? (

[@comfortablynumb9342]

From what I've seen in the testing your "10 lb test braid" could actually break around 15 lbs of tension, possibly more. And in my experience braid is way harder to break off than mono of the same strength (on the label). If you're using 10 lb braid and 20 lb mono or fluoro the knot is where I would expect most failures.

[@Saltstrong]

I use 10 lb braid and 20 lb leader most of the time, and the leader is always the weakest point for me when I have to break off when snagged on the bottom since I use the FG knot which has proven to have a breaking point up to 26 lbs (using 10 lb J-Braid 8 Grand... PowerPro has tested up to 23 lbs). Given how strong that knot it, I have to use a 30 lb leader when testing the FG knot so that the leader won't break. In those tests, the braid is what fails (typically in the middle of the FG coils).

[@joedennehy386]

I sell tackle and braid is often up to 250% of its advertised breaking strain. I use 8lb Berkley fireline which breaks at 20 lb. With 20lb fluorocarbon leader

[@comfortablynumb9342]

@@joedennehy386 yep

[@vicb.2708]

Hey guys. I'm curious about "shock" abilities. I see many high-speed wahoo trolling videos that suggest a length of shock line, between the lure cable and main line, to lend some "give" to this type of trolling. What would you suggest for that...mono or fluoro...or copoly? Thanks!

[@greenmachine3696]

Just run straight mono mate.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the question! Please visit the full blog on our website and post there. That way, Luke can respond with his feedack there. You can find it here: bit.ly/41vV6hG

[@kpocala1061]

Ande line has always been good

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks!

[@Moosedigger]

Did you ever say the actual posted test for each line? I assume that they were all the same at 20 pound test?

[@motowncooking6125]

How is the monofilament stretch versus fluorocarbon and it's sensitivity? I had fluorocarbon but I just respooled up today with mono after a bad backlash cost me $$with fluorocarbon

[@Saltstrong]

Check out the full blog on our website and post your question there. That way, Luke can respond back directly with his feedback. You can find that here: bit.ly/41vV6hG

[@seatee4770]

What pound test lines are being used and also were the lines all close to one another diameter wise? Important things that weren't mentioned in the test.

[@teetimeaz]

Where is the break? At the knot? Could it be the burning at the knot? If so, would it be better in the water. Also, do you see the fluoro line kinking between your multiple stress tests? My mono line is kinky after a day of fishing! Probably should replace it.

[@Saltstrong]

The breaks are always at the knots. No, there is no risk of line burning as proven in an earlier contest testing if using saliva helps or hurts knots with today's lines: www.saltstrong.com/articles/saliva-cinch-down-fishing-knot/ I did not see any bad kinks in the lines before the breaks... only in the Fluoro after the break.

[@xRamZx]

Love these tests, thanx for doing it for us! Science doesn't lie, mono is king.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for posting the nice comment

[@pinkydavis4223]

Hey Luke, Great info! Just goes to show ya that some companies are just in it for the money. These big companies after testing there lines knowing that there not as good as they say... Sad! Thanks for the eye opening test. 😎🐟 tight lines😊

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for posting the nice comment

[@mistertwister1816]

I really appreciate the scientific approach on these topics of broad interest to anglers. Thanks so much for investing the time and energy to help us understand line products and how they perform. Your approach is much preferred to the conjecture from so called “experts”. Another person asked where the line is breaking. We are interested in where the line breaks in the original breaks versus the stressed breaks.

[@Saltstrong]

Glad these tests are helpful! Please visit the full blog on our website and post your question there. That way, Luke can respond directly to it with his input. You can find it here: bit.ly/41vV6hG

[@trevormiller9416]

Fluorocarbon line not leader would be an interesting test. I always go to the fluro line bc of cost to use as my leader... Fuoro line vs mono line

[@InshorePursuitFL]

A lot of manufacturers use regular fluoro line as their leader as well. Same with mono manufacturers

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the suggestion! Please visit the full blog on our website and post there for the team to review and respond. You can find it here: bit.ly/41vV6hG

[@flat---line]

Please test Kastkings' new Tripolymar monofilament line! Insanely small diameters and claims to be the best of both Fluoro and Mono. It could be a very interesting video...

[@Saltstrong]

We'll make note of that!

[@berniepechlaner5809]

I bought the 6 lb "crappie" Tripolymer. Straight-line breaking strength in all tests is about 4.5 lb. Knot strength is horrible - the only one I got to work well is the San Diego Jam Knot. From what I have read, the higher-test versions of this line behave in a similar manner.

[@mark49015]

It seems the fluro loses about 25% off the block. Is it breaking at the knot? I'd like to see a knot break test with fluro to fluro, fluro to mono, and each to braid. Maybe using a double uni, double surgeons and an FG.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the suggestion! Please visit the full blog on our website and post there for the team to review and respond. You can find it here: bit.ly/41vV6hG

[@NoleYakin]

So why is anybody buying fluro? 😆 great stuff luke

[@Saltstrong]

The biggest reason in my opinion is simply that a ton of marketing dollars have hyped it up for many years.

[@WorldsOkayestFisherman]

Can you provide a link to that tensile test machine?

[@Saltstrong]

It was custom built by Insider Club Member, Andy Hong.

[@cardinhamkilligrew9712]

So I am still learning and planning some rigs for my sailboat specifically for stripers, mahi, tuna..... trolling around 4 to 6 knots.. (trying to create a rig that has multi uses as i=on a boat and cant have too many options).. was thinking 50lb line mono and 60 lb fleuro leader about 6 feet? hook size probably between 6 and 9 - 8 or 9 for bay stripers and 7 for mahi and tuna.... still unsure what size sinkers to use and what size swivels match. any thoughts or help? in bay probably trolling in water between 25 feet and 100 feet and then coastal for tuna and mahi off Carolinas and Florida please help. I'd be using some lures...still unsure what kind...maybe like mojo style chartreuse for stripers and then perhaps dolphin feathers style for coastal

[@Saltstrong]

Check out the full blog on our website and post your question there. That way, our coaches can respond back directly with their input and recommendation. You can find that here: bit.ly/41vV6hG

[@PeterRanieriII]

looks line mono exhibits some form of plastic deformation similar to steel. this is when you actually get a higher ulitimate tensile strength by straining the material beyond is elastic region of stress vs. strain. Very cool experiment, thank you for sharing

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Bronco2Cj]

@@Saltstrong Good information.. so at the end of the day, you're saying that Mono makes a better leader than Floro correct?

[@sunshinecycling]

One of your best tests. Did you post your sheet of info anywhere? Would like to see.

[@Saltstrong]

You can find the results on the full blog page on our website: bit.ly/41vV6hG

[@nightwing8755]

I like the sensitivity of fluorocarbon, but ive noticed its weaker than my mono. My line breaks more than my mono. And when I tie my knot on fluorocarbon it breaks easier. A part of me wants to go back to a mono. But I love jig fishing and worry about missing that sensitivity. I use a 15 lb test in theory i could go up to 17 and get more sensitivity in my mono correct?

[@Saltstrong]

In the majority of our tests, monofilament outperforms fluorocarbon and is the cheaper option

[@nightwing8755]

@@Saltstrong is there a good mono that has good sensitivity that you'd recommend?

[@InshorePursuitFL]

Good things man! Thanks for the video. I’ve been praising mono for a long time now since I saw your initial video. I would love to see a comparison between berkley trilene big game mono compared to Ande mono. The Trilene is even less expensive and I believe it’s actually a lil thicker diameter per lb test.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the suggestion! Please visit the full blog on our website and post there for the team to review and respond. You can find it here: bit.ly/41vV6hG

[@C.Rig21]

Has salt strong even done a line visibility test with monofilament vs florocarbon?

[@Saltstrong]

We've done strength and abrasion tests. Due to the material and state of fluorocarbon, it is typically noticed more in the water. We can conduct a test on this!

[@patrickcotter945]

what about the Coploymer or flouro coated mono ?

[@Saltstrong]

We'll address that in future tests

[@Justin-zw1hx]

we need to use the same diameter of the line, otherwise it's not a good comparison.

[@Saltstrong]

Our tests keep this in mind

[@BrianSGuitars]

Is there a way to measure the difference in visibility underwater?

[@Saltstrong]

That's the most difficult test to complete

[@milkplease642]

Visibility is subjective as it is also based on the fishes' perspective, which is hard for us to determine

[@joedennehy386]

Fluorocarbon has the same refractive light index as water

[@jonm9538]

Anyone ever test P-Line Flourocarbon? That one seems to be way stronger than the vaunted Seagar.

[@RibbitMaster64]

Well.. thank you for this..I would have liked to see this a week ago. I was skipping jigs under trees with 65lb braid. I was told floro was better in wood because it wouldn't dig it.. so I took braid off and put on floro.. so should I go back to braid?

[@Saltstrong]

Glad we could help!

[@aggravatedtrade2254]

There needs do be an abrasion test I feel mono would be more comprised

[@Saltstrong]

Mono consistently performs better than fluoro

[@RC-mt9zk]

Where did the line break?

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the question! Please check out the full blog on our website and post your question there. That way, Luke can respond directly with input. You can find it here: bit.ly/41vV6hG

[@andybales7318]

I use monofilament on 98% of my rods/reels...price is right to change out a few times a year, great abrasion resistance, shock resistance abilities...today's mono is much better than the past...most don't use it anymore, because the "pros" don't 😆 they get free braid & fluoro, rods, reels, and other things from sponsors...1 thing I can gurantee... Fish don't care about your line, rod, reel, boat size, braid to fluoro leaders, etc...

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the insight!

[@joedennehy386]

When you lure fish braid has the huge advantage of almost zero stretch. Mono has up to 17% stretch, so in deeper water moving your rod doesn't move the lure at all. If mono worked better the pros would be using it, it's made by the same manufacturers anyway. So you're way out there

[@brianfitch5469]

@@joedennehy386 How did people catch fish before braid was a thing? Pros will use whatever they are paid to use. Thats common sense, and will repeat or parrot what the marketing depts tell them to say about the product.

[@bobsmoot2392]

The number 1 reason for breaks is poor drag set and adjusting during fight. 2 is poor knots. 3 is lack of patience, which causes numbers 1 + 2.

[@eeassa]

Crappy line breaking at 12lb instead of it's rated 20 doesn't help LOL!

[@bobsmoot2392]

This seems to explain why people are experiencing a lot of break offs with Fluoro.

[@mse1333]

Hey Luke, great stuff as always! But being a retired engineer, I love to see data in graph form😊

[@Saltstrong]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@davidmiddleton4617]

Great information!! I always use mono up here in the Mid Atlantic. I don’t think Fluorocarbon is necessary due to our water clarity

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the input!

[@JoeSimondsSaltStrong]

MONO for me!

[@Saltstrong]

💪💪💪

[@LeQuito]

Why is Flouro so popular?

[@loganfishbeard]

You are technically doing whats called a fatigue test in the materials science world. This measures the "toughness" of a material. It seems like you figured out the elastic deformation limit of mono is a higher percentage of it's failure point than flouro which makes sense because flouro is a stiffer material. It's like comparing your japanese kitchen knife to your fillet knife. The fillet knife will bend around the skeleton of a fish when you apply sideways preassure where the kitchen knife is liable to break, however, the kitchen knife will hold a sharp edge for much longer.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the insight!

[@cristilaye5912]

DO A KNOT STRENGTH TEST WITH DIFFERENT SIZE SWIVELS. SOME FOLKS USE TINY SWIVELS FOR STEALTH WHILE USING 20LB TEST. MY TESTS WERE SHOCKING!! THOSE TINY STEALTHY SWIVELS DROP 20LB TEST TO ABOUT 12.

[@fishingwithjoy]

Very interesting! Maybe wear goggles when doing these ? I am always worried about you getting hit in the eye !! 😮

[@Saltstrong]

Good tip!

[@rta85]

The Premier label are softer and weaker than the blue label floral

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the comment!

[@anglermattoutdoors]

It’s almost like they purposefully made a worse line to see if they could charge more

[@Saltstrong]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Engineer_Heathen]

I switched to fluorocarbon a few years back and noticed it definitely looks beat up after a couple fish. I haven't had many issues with it breaking though. I use it because it's supposedly less visible under water. Thinking about switching back to mono after this test. Would save me a lot of money. I'm curious to see how you'd test visibility under water. I don't think it could realistically be done scientifically by you guys, would have to just be your opinion looking at it with an underwater camera.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the question! Please visit the full blog on our website and post there. That way, Luke can respond with his feedback there. You can find it here: bit.ly/41vV6hG

[@brianfitch5469]

Did you catch fish before switching to fluoro? Has the increased money for line caught more fish? Probably not.

[@joewilliams13]

I use mono just for this reason I tried to use fluro but after every red fish fight the leader look like crap and broke off on the next fish. Went back to big game mono and been using the same leader after 2 trips on the yak only retying the knot!

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for sharing your findings

[@Sweetaccord]

Fluro has no major advantage over mono that I've seen using both for years. This test just confirms thank you!

[@Saltstrong]

You're welcome! Glad it was helpful!

[@Sweetaccord]

@@Saltstrong It was very much. 😊

[@alexkorneyko6792]

From my humble experience Seaguar is the worst fluoro I've ever used.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for sharing!

[@williestephens4327]

💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@Saltstrong]

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[@lenrichardson5183]

What i can say is if fluorocarbon is a gimmick. Have used ut in the past and had trouble with my knots. You have to understand the people telling us that fluorocarbon is the cats ass are also the same people that if you fish any with mono you have to change it daily,

[@greenmachine3696]

I don't see how this would be relevant whatsoever unless your using a handline. With correct drag and rod flex there's no possible way to stress your leader like that without it being 100% operator error 🤷‍♂️ I'm not biased to one or the other because I use both. Use your gear properly and neither should ever come close to stretching at all.

[@mistertwister1816]

For anglers that snag and break off repeatedly during a trip, this information is extremely valuable. For example, a bass angler that habitually uses fluorocarbon leader will surely consider getting out of that habit when conditions might allow for the use of mono instead (I.e. dirty water). Trout anglers using a hi-vis mono (for visibility and floating properties) connected to a fluorocarbon tippet will now consider whether they reuse a length of fluoro tippet that was stressed to breaking from a snag. My thoughts…

[@greenmachine3696]

@@mistertwister1816 but if your breaking off a snag wouldn't you automatically replace the leader anyway (that's if it doesn't snap at the join knot already) that's what I mean when I say operator error because to keep using any rope, line, wire or chains after they've been overloaded to breaking point and all integrity is gone is 100% on the operator.

[@jamesbarron1202]

@@greenmachine3696 when we’re pitching heavy mats and brush at close range for big bass we shock the heck out of our line. You hit ‘em hard and try to move them out the cover as fast as possible with very little line out to absorb the shock with the stretch you’d have if it was a long cast. I wouldn’t use flouro especially for that but some do. It’s braid or copoly for me always.

[@greenmachine3696]

@@jamesbarron1202 yeah I get that, we do the same for big jacks in heavy structure here as well but never to the point where the line is shocked hard enough to damage it anything like this test and that's with on average a much shorter blank than what I've seen you guys use in the states for bass. I can run a 30lb/30lb in that situation and even pushing a few kg of drag I know nothing will be overloaded and I can turn a jack in its tracks upto 4kg.

[@jamesbarron1202]

@@greenmachine3696 that’s when I used to break flouro was on hook sets. I tie a good knot for flouro also. Lubricated also. I never break off on my copoly unless I’m hung up. I watch bass fisherman on KZbin and I can’t believe how much they break off with flouro. I’m in Texas and we have the biggest bass on average besides California. I’m sure we have much more 7 to 10 lb bass than Cali.

[@glennmcpherson1568]

Noticed this a few years ago, don't even buy floro anymore

[@Saltstrong]

Nice! Thanks for the comment!

[@avalanchefishing5725]

Segaur is way overrated and way overpriced, I personally found that out. It’s all pro advertising. Most fish records were caught on mono over the decades.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the feedback!