You've Got To See This Shocking Line Abrasion Test: Mono Vs Fluoro

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Monofilament versus fluorocarbon leader line...it's the great debate!
I bet if you asked a group of anglers at a boat ramp which leader line is more abrasion resistant, they'd say fluorocarbon.
WHY?
Because it's always been advertised as such and people believe it.
But has anyone really tested it against monofilament?
In this video, you'll see the ultimate abrasion test between mono and fluoro!
Which leader material do you use?
Are you thinking about switching now?
Let us know in the comments section of our Fishing Tips Blog here: bit.ly/3yeyMKh

[@philipsmith5398]

Thank you for the to the point, practical, common sense, no BS marketing line test. Very well done!

[@Saltstrong]

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[@puterrivera9967]

Informative video…many thanks

[@GrouseHiker]

Keep up the good work! I'm convinced... no more tweaking of the test required.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks!

[@edbranch3239]

Killer review, thank you!

[@timothykohr8069]

Wow thank you!! Will be going back to my mono!! You just saved me a TON of money!!

[@allenbmooresharinginformation]

I threw out all my floro after watching. The few break-offs I've had always happened with that no matter how high dollar it was. It took this video for me to have the light bulb go off.

[@ColorblindBullpup]

Mono is my go to line along with braid. I got some fluorocarbon cause everybody was saying how good it was so i spooled it up for a trip and didn’t have any problems with it until i went on trip #2 with the fluoro. My knots kept breaking because of how bad fluoro cuts into itself so i had to learn new knots and take more time tying, mirco fractures kept appearing and it just got shredded even with just a few sticks touching it. Then i switched to mono where i didn’t have to worry as much about the knots. I learned the hard way that a polomar knot hates fluorocarbon but really loves mono.

[@right8630]

Yeah and co polymer mono is the best it gives you more abrasion resistance with the added benefit of having fluro like characteristics.

[@ibrahimalmoosa9363]

Thank you for your honest no-nonsense test. Makes me rethink everything I thought I knew about fishing lines...

[@lukesimonds3653]

Thanks! Yes, I felt the exact same way after my first test of mono vs. fluoro.

[@bobjohnson7207]

That was brilliant good show.

[@15569903]

Not only better abrasion resistance but I find using monofilament leader with my braided main line that I lose less fish to break off at the leader. When I was using fluorocarbon I would actually break them off because there was no stretch in either line. Monofilament has just enough stretch on a 18 inch leader that it prevents that break off but you still have good overall sensitivity.

[@allenbmooresharinginformation]

Friends don't let friends use fluoro.

[@jamesbarron1202]

I ask one of the employees at P-Line what their most abrasion resistant line is by equal diameter and he said their floro leader line was the toughest. I really had my doubts and I’m sure they have probably never tested it against their CXX copoly. I’d love to see you test a bunch of different brands of monos and copolys of similar diameters. P-Line CXX is my favorite line. Been using it since it hit the market. These test you do are why I sub to this channel because I don’t fish the salt.

[@mrcbreakable3092]

I agree. I have some Yozuri Hybrid line that is also a copoly I would be interested in seeing head to head vs mono.

[@michaelcisneros3848]

p-line is all i use also and it takes a beating

[@jamesbarron1202]

@@michaelcisneros3848 it’s a lot stronger than it’s rated strength. I’ve tested it with a scale. I’ve caught 40 lb flathead cats in very swift current on 20 lb and never doubted it would break. I think almost every bass rod would break before it would fighting a big fish. I’m always afraid I’m going to warp my baitcast spool when I’m hung up and trying to break the 20 lb. Need to carry a stick to wrap it around for that reason.

[@TheBigghunter01]

@@mrcbreakable3092 i was using 8lb yozuri hybrid for trout. Only caught 2 trout on that setup but they were both 20” on topwater.

[@mrcbreakable3092]

@@TheBigghunter01 I have been using 4o lb Yozuri on my surf rig. It's seems fairly strong.

[@RICK82873]

Can’t wait to see the visibility test. One thing I have read is mono absorbs water when it’s been out some time. I would like to know if the mono was submerged for a few hr before the test would it effect its abrasive resistance?

[@saltymojo3277]

I would definitely like to do this on my channel. Thanks for the idea!

[@jamesbarron1202]

@@saltymojo3277 I’ll sub to your channel if you’d test different brands of monos and copolys of equal diameters. I don’t use leader material. I run full spools of P-Line CXX. I haven’t found a line that’ll beat it with a Palomar knot when knot tested for knot strength and equal diameter. I’d like to see Sunlines mono tested against it. That’s one I haven’t tested.

[@saltymojo3277]

@@jamesbarron1202 That’s a great idea. I am sure plenty of people want to know which brand to buy when it comes to strength test. I have never heard of those brands but I will definitely look into it!

[@saltymojo3277]

@@jamesbarron1202 Now that I have Googled them, I have seen P-Line before but never used it. Sunline is still new to me.

[@jamesbarron1202]

@@saltymojo3277 Sunline is the #1 known fluorocarbon on the market in the bass world. I myself won’t use floro but I’d figure their monos pretty good. Some of these companies cheat by making a bigger diameter line and rate it low in test to make it look stronger by poundage. Only true test is matching diameters. What the poundage says on the label means absolutely nothing. I actually used a micrometer to match lines when I tested. That was many years ago and a lot of newer stuff is on the market now.

[@Surfer-727]

Way to go Luke. My new favorite line is Trilene XL.

[@walden6272]

Trilene XL is more stretchy than Big Game. Big Game is stronger though.

[@dirtydutch5253]

Quite informative. Agree with some of the other comments on different variables to consider. A wet test would be interesting

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks!

[@stewoutdoors3020]

Nice test. Very interesting.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks Stew!

[@ivanh1289]

Outstanding.... it's just the big names sometimes.. an honest review 👌 go to go.

[@kenoconnor3513]

I have been watching you guys for years and love these line comparisons. Have you tested these lines in lighter strengths? I commonly use 6lb-10lb leaders.?

[@Saltstrong]

We're working on this!

[@billdillard885]

Liked this test!! Been fishing mono both inshore and offshore… had good experience with mono in both cases.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks Bill!

[@jeffhoffman3074]

Been using ande for years good stuff

[@929cosmodude]

love to see you guys test schnieder klear line, really popular amonst anglers in australia, its mono and very durable

[@aviadler4102]

Great video as always. I love the testing setups you devise. I'd suggest changing the test so each line has the same number of trials. Looking at the results you have, the two trials with the Ande Mono vs the Seaguar, the mono broke much quicker than it did in the first set against the Berkley. HEAVY MATH WARNING!! I'm admittedly a bit of a math nerd so I looked at the Mean, Median, Mode, and Standard Deviation of the number of passes it took each to break. Since we have more data for the Ande Mono, the margin of error should be smaller (though I did not calculate it). None of the trials had an exact number of passes repeated so there is no Mode. Ande Mono had a Mean of 25.75 passes and a Median of 25.5 (As an aside, when mean and median are close it indicates that the data is not skewed, therefore likely more consistent) and a Standard Deviation of 5.31 passes. Berkley Vanish had a Mean of 24.5 and a Median of 24.5 (expected to be the same with only 2 data points so no indication of skewness) and a Standard Deviation of 0.5 passes. Seaguar had a Mean of 14.5, a Median of 14.5, and a Standard Deviation of 0.5 passes. If we consider a normal range to be 2 standard deviations from the median (we could use mean but it would only affect the Mono in this case), the Ande Mono should break somewhere between 15 passes (rounded from 14.88) and 36 passes (rounded from 36.12). Berkley Vanish should break between 23 passes (23.5 calculated) and 26 passes (25.5 calculated). Seaguar should break between 13 passes (13.5 calculated) and 16 passes (15.5 calculated). My take would be, Mono is the clear winner but the low end of the expected range still covers the entire range of both Fluoro lines. If you really want to use a Fluoro leader, the Berkley Vanish seems like it would give much better performance than Seaguar. With more data, we might find the Berkley performance is similar to the Ande. Of course, if Mono is an option, the reduced cost of Mono makes this a no-brainer! Any chance you could redo this test with an equal number of trials for each line type?

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@j.thomas8303]

Okay...I'm going to become a member and support what you guys are doing. Your testing and the thought process that drives your testing is robust and comprehensive. Sold! Great video.

[@comfortablynumb9342]

I still prefer Triplefish mono leader. I've never used floro at all. I like your test rig. Good info.

[@jimbuttbro]

Great test and thanks for sharing this. Why did the Ande fail quicker in the Seaguar test versus when it was tested again the Vanish? Everything appears to be the same.

[@Saltstrong]

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[@roopan1968]

Very interesting. Thank you for the great, informative video Dave Grohl!

[@DominusEstOK]

Mono lasts Everlong against fluoro

[@justanormalguyinthesteel7519]

What about Berkley Professional Tournament grade gold label? Ive had great luck in the past with Berkley Professional on baitcast, but not spinning because it is a little stiff. It's a little harder to tie and tougher to trim up tag ends without clippers. I agree with the Vanish & Seaguar lines not being up to the strength/abrasion, yet they are very easy handling and smooth casting to me. I've switched back to Berkley Big Game for topshot/leader here lately. I appreciate all the testing that y'all do.

[@Justin-zw1hx]

Love this

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks!!

[@jamesdiotte]

A few people have already mentioned the heat/friction variable, the other variable that I think is missing here is abrasion resistance under load. Monofilament stretches much more under tension than fluoro, using a 2.5 lb weight as in this set up mimics fishing with only 2.5 lbs of drag force. If you're fishing for big snook or near wrecks and reefs you may have significantly more drag pressure. Would be interested to see the results with 40-50 lb fluoro with a 10-15 lb weight.

[@diegotobar6839]

This exactly what I was thinking. I use mono because of the stretch which is more forgiving when it come to where your drag is set. You don't need to be spot on with your drag when using mono. It'll be interesting to see what this test would look like if both lines were pulled tighter i.e higher drag pressure.

[@thetravelingmongo]

Would it be the same results with shock leader?

[@snakesurfcustomfishingrods5821]

I noticed that when it first came out and went back to mono. As far as visibility, it doesn't matter. Have you done one with braid vs mono of the same lbs rating?

[@michaelspencer6318]

braidis terrible for abrasion ,try rubbing a bit on a rock

[@crispinsquibbs187]

Hi, when doing the under water bit how about adding a wire leader into mix, say a Ti single and/or a stranded stainless one? Going off fluro but need either thick mono or thin wire for toothy things and wonder just how much more they show up, when compaired to thicker mono/fluro. Many thanks for your posts.

[@Saltstrong]

Great idea!

[@triqpham]

Hi Luke, could you please do a test on the (now in the US) Varivas braided lines? They claim to be stronger but much thinner lines. It looks amazing but I trust you guys to prove whether this is true or not. Thanks for your consideration.

[@donaldheckman9660]

Have you done a Berkley Big game vs the Ande mono on abrasion test?

[@fuq584]

Excellent video! Maybe as an improvement try soaking the lines in water for 10 minutes or so and then test abrasion resistance. Could you also test braided lines aswell and not just fluorocarbon and mono?

[@jamesbarron1202]

He’s already tested braid and it was the worst for abrasion. I don’t think he did it by same diameter though. I can’t really remember but I think it was by pound test. I’ve always been a copoly fan and won’t even use floro. I gave it a fair chance. I have a spool of floro I won and it’s been setting in my fridge for years.

[@Saltstrong]

Braid is not good for rubbing over rough surfaces... here's a test: www.saltstrong.com/articles/braid-vs-mono-abrasion-strength-experiment/

[@jamesbarron1202]

@@Saltstrong I’d like to see 20 lb copoly vs 65 lb braid which are both the most common sizes used in heavy cover bass fishing situations like frogging and flipping. Both situations where abrasion is a big factor. You’d never see anyone with much experience using 20 lb braid in those applications and they also wouldn’t be using 65 lb copoly so equal poundage isn’t really a good test.

[@Skategoodmen]

I'd say test it in salt water and also fresh water, but that would definitely take a toll on the sandpaper. Maybe find an old broken piling or a stick with barnacles and test the line directly on them like you'd run into from a dock snook or every sheepshead catch ever

[@pacman_17]

That's interesting, Berkley beat Seaguar in this abrasion test consistantly. Even though Seaguar is the more expensive premium product.

[@Saltstrong]

We agree

[@dakota364]

I wonder if their is any difference if you try to simulate a hook set. Maybe dropping the weight onto a hard edge of some sort

[@Keith.Vieira]

What about breaking strength?

[@imal1015]

I would like to see 15 Lb izorline xxx tested 🙏👍

[@joeyjoe8892]

You should try the segar yellow label and see if it's abrasion-resistant like they say it is

[@rushdrift]

this is an eye opener how about comparing this to braided as well?

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for your question! Make sure to ask this over on the actual blog or in the Community where the coaches spend their time. The blog can be found here: bit.ly/3yeyMKh

[@rmorris75252]

Should check out daiwa j-Fluoro. It’s my go to now and a hundred yard spool goes for about the same amount as a 25 yard spool of blue label

[@nigelkakashi]

Can you test ande mono leader against big game mono leader

[@mremcee]

Luke, love the comparisons! Maybe you should try using a smaller diameter dowel that you can put into a drill and simply spin the dowel. I think the rate of abrasion would be a little more exact and certainly easier!

[@chefjoedgpo124]

Is there a difference between mono leader like you're using or just plain old mono line?

[@troydavison2467]

I would like to see this test as well. See if we are wasting money on "leader line"

[@C.Rig21]

Luke in your opinion, what is the best monofilament fishing line? Abrasion resistant, knot strength and minimal memory?

[@TomMendoladrums]

Out here on the west coast fishing the kelp patties most fishermen swear by fishing braid with flurocarbon leader’s. They call this “Kelp Cutters”. I told them about your tests with these lines and they refuse to believe it. I’ve been fishing Berkley Trilene green big game out here since 1990. I never changed to braid with flurocarbon or mono leaders. The only time I’ve been broken off is by a shark or a large yellow tail that wrapped around the anchor. I catch more fish with mono than these other set ups fished right next to me and I save money and use a palomar knot to a live bait hook. It’s marketing. Convince a fisherman that they’ll have a better chance of catching and they’ll buy your product. Thanks for the video.

[@walden6272]

"Convince a fisherman that they'll have a better chance of catching and they'll buy your product." So true, Tom. I think that's where the old saying goes, fishing lures catches more fishermen than fish.

[@diegotobar6839]

I back my reels with braid as a way to increase my line capacity without having to resort to a giant reel. It did help pull in a 20lbs yellowtail out of kelp at Catalina. I thought I had a giant yellow as I had cut the kelp and brought back a small patty with my yellowtail in it. I do however topshot all of them with 50 -100yrds of mono because I like the line to give a little (stretch). Without this little bit of give in the line your drag needs to be set dead on or back off a little so that you don't snap you line. With mono, from my short experience fishing, you have more flexibility with your drag settings. That being said, I do add 18-20 inches of floro leader because, admittedly, I've heard it is more invisible underwater but I refuse to use straight braid to floro.

[@TomMendoladrums]

@@diegotobar6839 I get what you are saying. I went out this past week and got hung up in the kelp a few times. With 20lb mono I was able to also cut through the kelp and pulled out a few bouquets of it. I use green Berkley Trilene Big Game on a 6000 (12lb test) and 8000 (20lb) Shimano Baitrunner.and I hook up more than most. It disappears in this water. No leader. I rarely break off unless it is a Barracuda or Shark. I can't justify the cost of braid or fluro based on my 30 years using the Trilene. I get even more hook ups on 12lb test with it. It works for me and the line lasts. I understand you must fish with works for you. Catch em up!

[@diegotobar6839]

@@TomMendoladrums Fishing kelp patties with 12lb test??... you are braver than me!

[@TomMendoladrums]

@@diegotobar6839 I know who you mean. Last year off Anacapa I pulled out a 17lb Yellowtail on the 12lb pound set up on a size 1 live bait mustard hook. I have the photo to prove it. The mate and captain were shocked. It took about 20 minutes but it was fun. It can be done if you don't horse them and let them swim out of the kelp. Once you start putting too much pressure on them too soon they go crazy. I lost one off Palos Verde on the same outfit years ago. That one was about 25lbs. I was on it for 30 minutes. It almost spooled me. I got it to the boat several times and it took off. The last time I got it near it took me to the bow and managed to wrap around the anchor and broke off. My son who was seven at the time was in shock when he saw it. Great memory. I would have loved to land that one. That is why I still use Berkley Trilene Big Game Green. It's strong.

[@rsmobley4685]

I have only used Mono for years!

[@tolpacourt]

for the win!

[@dahall0162]

What is the difference in ' leader' materal and standard 'mono' ?

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for your question! Make sure to ask this over on the actual blog or in the Community (www.saltstrong.com/) where the coaches spend their time. The blog can be found here: bit.ly/3yeyMKh

[@richardgallichan4436]

Surely this test should be done in the water to be reliable. Fluoro definitely doesn’t like heat.

[@Saltstrong]

I have done this same test with soaked lines in addition to wet sand paper... same results as dry so I don't think that any potential frictional heat impacts the winner/loser in these tests.

[@PeterRanieriII]

@@Saltstrong yea but it's still not realistic to test it in the air. testing it while underwater is realistic. Similar to sharpening an axe on a stone. you will get a different result if water is applied while sharpening.

[@benny_7879]

I agree, the lines submerged in water would keep them cooler. And the results may differ.

[@walden6272]

I went back to mono from using braid for several years. Couldn't be more happier. Mono feels so much nicer to me on a baitcaster. And I fish around rocks and pilings often so I need the abrasive resistance of mono. I gave up on flouro ever since it break off on casting a 1.5 oz lure. Mono never failed me. And the "invisibility" factor of flouro as an advantage is overrated. You should do a test. I have seen fishermen who use straight braid catching tons of bass.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for posting the helpful comment

[@BeachwalkerGuideService]

Not shocked at all that is the power of marketing and big name anglers pushing a product. Running pink ande mono for 40 years

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the feedback

[@floridaman3043]

How is that J braid grand stacking up to the original power pro?

[@Saltstrong]

It is still holding up well... will be doing a 2nd casting contest with them in the next few weeks.

[@pablocontreras8767]

Although I am also in “mono team”, I would like to see the same test under the water, just to see if there is any difference.

[@Saltstrong]

I unfortunately can't sink this test assembly

[@j.thomas8303]

Doing this test in water wouldn't alter the reaults...just prolong it as the water would act as a lubricant - since the coefficient of drag would be the same.

[@pablocontreras8767]

@@j.thomas8303 Are you 100% sure. Water would also help to dissipate heat. And Fluoro tends to burn with friction.

[@diegotobar6839]

@@Saltstrong Easy. Get a spray bottle and spray it with water. Not going to mimic exactly the same as being submerged but it may give you a idea.

[@Saltstrong]

@@diegotobar6839 I did some tests with soaked lines and a wet cloth that I rubbed the sand paper with before every round, and the end results were the same as the dry runs.

[@PeterRanieriII]

Another variable: Should do it underwater. Friction forces could be different submerged.

[@richardgallichan4436]

Fluoro definitely doesn’t like heat. Can’t be tested reliably unless under water.

[@jamesbarron1202]

@@richardgallichan4436 that’s a very good point and very true. Flouro definitely needs lubed with spit before tightening the knot. The mono will also absorb water, where from what I’ve researched flouro doesn’t. I’m still a mono (copoly) fan.

[@timothyroche6445]

I use xt solar , good all around color doesn't bother em either

[@chris73brown]

Ande mono is beast. Especially the pink

[@tolpacourt]

Fluoro feels softer and to me and it's certainly limper. It's a lot easier to tie a FG knot with fluoro but that just means I need to practice tying the knot more.

[@Saltstrong]

Interesting... what fluoro are you using? Most that I've tried are more rigid than traditional mono.

[@tolpacourt]

@@Saltstrong Ande and TrikFish.

[@jimmyfireball]

This is very interesting, however I feel you may have overlooked 1 think. Mono is much more absorbent then fluoro, and my have an affect the lines performance.

[@williamelliott4444]

Do Ande mono vs Berkeley Big Game. Knots and abrasion tests. I think that $10 1/4 pound spool will beat it.

[@jamesbarron1202]

I think my P-Line CXX EXTra Strong will beat both of those if they’re all equal diameter. I’ve used a lot of Big Game but never Ande. I wouldn’t ever buy a small spool of leader line but if their big normal line spools beat my line I’d give it a test of my own and might make a switch. I’m not a leader angler. I want the least knots as possible between me and the fish.

[@BigGfromOB1987]

For years everyone used mono! It’s a trip to me the mono is straight it BIG GAME all day!

[@joedennehy386]

Great test thanks. I use fluorocarbon because it has the same refractive light index as water. It's invisible under water. But that's one myth exploded for me. Thanks

[@Saltstrong]

You're welcome!

[@Keith-vu1ig]

I stopped using monofilament and went to braid and fluorocarbon. I also tried copolomer line. After a year with those I went back to monofilament. It works better on a baitcaster in my experience. The best thing is that I have more money for other gear. Thank you for your test. You are the main reason I went back to monofilament.

[@BigGfromOB1987]

Put Big game up against them all!!!

[@Saltstrong]

We have! www.saltstrong.com/articles/best-monofilament-line-abrasion-strength/

[@thegoods2240]

Has anyone done abrasion resistance test on a bulk spool of mono vs the stuff that's on those little "mono leader" spools? By the way, I've tried more than my fair share of fishing lines, and I always end up going back to good old fashioned Stren Original.

[@Saltstrong]

Here's a test on that... you'll like what you see with Stren Original: www.saltstrong.com/articles/best-monofilament-line-abrasion-strength/

[@thegoods2240]

@@Saltstrong Awesome thanks, and funny, I use Stren for my light stuff 20lb and under, and my heavy 30+ leaders I use Berkley Big Game. I guess I chose OK!

[@bobbyboychuk4619]

Great scientific test to uncover the facts. Which would be more abrasion resistant, 30 lb mono or 40 lb fluoro?

[@Saltstrong]

Depends on the brand and thickness of the diameter of the lines. If it were our choice, we'd go with the 30lb Monofilament

[@Mr05sti]

Anything over 100lb I use mono... not worth the money when you can buy a 50yard coil for 25 bucks vs 100... let's try testing hooks! Wanna see the difference from 1x hook to 3x hook.

[@andrewk.l1887]

Stretching effect. The mono stretches while fluro doesn't. This may give the mono an edge when being weighed down. What about having a test with both lines not being weighed down?

[@Saltstrong]

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[@greglittle404]

I love this test. But my teeth tell me differently. I'm sure everybody has bit off their mono knots, and succeeded. Then tried to bite off their fluoro knots. And went straight to the dentist!!!

[@thedeegeesaga]

I was going to say something similar.. what about a test involving trying to find a standardized way to apply it over a sharp blade and see which one snaps first, but a lot of people are saying, through experience, that fluoro has no great advantages

[@henryschmidt636]

When you attempt your visibility test, please remember to test the Floro after its been pulled. That's when floro looses its magic invisibility. Be it tightening a knot on each end or pulling it off a snag. Floro sucks...

[@chuckmatses6803]

Maybe test the two flouros against each other?

[@johnmoore3504]

I didn’t need this test… I learned this lesson the old fashion way: by losing Snook after Snook with Fluoro. Now I use nothing but mono and guess what? No more break offs.

[@walden6272]

Agreed. I bought into the hype about flouro until it break off even from casting my lure. That was the final nail. Went back to mono after using braid for several years. Braid is strong by on rocks and pilings it get cut too easily. Mono is going to be all I use now and I love it.

[@jamesbarron1202]

Don’t drink the floro kool-aid. Even the manufacturers say it’s the best and try to push it off on us. I’ve had them tell me it’s their most abrasion resistant line and I’m almost 100% positive they’ve never even tested it themselves. I guess they make a bigger profit off of it. They need to watch this vid. I spooled that expensive crap on my reels and within a week using it daily it ended up in the trash. It doesn’t even handle as well as copoly or mono.

[@shadetreeartilleryman7932]

ANDE mono is my go-to leader line, but this test is kinda pointless. Blue Label is soft so that it knots well; of course it's not abrasion resistant. If you want abrasion resistant fluoro, get Red Label or another hard line. Just know that they make garbage knots and have a ton of memory. I have zero fluoro in my box or bag, and won't ever pay that premium again, but I will admit that NOTHING knots like Blue Label.

[@tolpacourt]

Nylon works great for fly fishing when you need to turn over heavy flies.

[@robertcox9226]

Blockbuster

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks!

[@rainnants]

I'd like to se seagur blue vs red vs gold in the same LB test

[@Saltstrong]

Noted! Thanks for the suggestion!

[@brucebandow3363]

Is there an abrasion resistance test that compares wet fluorocarbon vs. wet mono? Assumption here is that mono absorbs water and flouro does not.

[@Saltstrong]

Perfect timing on your question because that exact experiment was posted earlier this week. Here's a link to see the shocking results: www.saltstrong.com/fishing-tip/mono-vs-fluoro-soaked-in-water/

[@pastorjustin824]

Dont forget to use a 'fisheye' camera lens for the invisability test. 🤪🤪🤣🤣😎😎

[@jamesblake1848]

My Berkly mono line is stuff as a tank!! Green line that is

[@paulodeboer9121]

Very interesting indeed. One thing that comes to my mind is friction heat. This test is in air, not in water. Water is conducting heat caused by the friction much better than air. Just wondering if that would make a difference. But very interesting test! Keep up the interesting work! Paulo

[@Saltstrong]

I did this same test with lines that were soaked and wet sand paper, and the results were the same as the dry test.

[@matthewstrakna1537]

I think you've stumbled on to something a lot bigger than a simple misconception here. Considering the sheer amount of money tackle companies make off of fluoro, and the fact that abrasion resistance is always front and center with fluorocarbon's marketing, and with fluorocarbon's popularity among pro anglers, I think that this is far, FAR bigger than you realize. This is no mere misconception, this is a massive scandal waiting to happen, with potentially industry-wide effects. This info needs to be broadcast to every angler around the world, this info needs to be brought to the pros who are sponsored by these big tackle companies, and many MANY questions need to be asked. Because if we've been lied to about fluorocarbon, what else have we been lied to about?

[@chriswalls5831]

Flucarbon big bass less stretch and more abrasion

[@clarenceo.kingramirez9905]

Ande the beat lines pound by pound

[@user-uy8xt7cc1i]

Love the test, but can we have a wet test as that's what our lines are normally?

[@Saltstrong]

Check this out: www.saltstrong.com/articles/mono-vs-fluoro-knot-strength-test/

[@user-wz4su4ft6j]

Another test that proves mono is stronger when dry, on sandpaper and inside a temperature controlled room. I just dont see the point unless the lines are wet. Have you lot done any tests out in the field where conditions are realistic? I fish rocks constantly and the difference between mono thats been dragged over the rocks vs flouro isnt even close. The mono is always more shredded. I got sick of losing stripers on mono, switched to flouro and never looked back.

[@GabooNx]

Could you somehow mark the area in which the line is being tested? Mono has more stretch, in the Theory more area is being exposed to sandpaper? Versus floro which has less stretch and therefore the abrasive area is more focused and cuts the line faster? I fish a rocky river and mono doesn’t last nears as long as a smaller diameter floro, and braid doesn’t stand a chance.

[@Mr05sti]

Lets try gold label lol....

[@exitar1]

What marketing lied...nooooooooo!

[@exitar1]

Maybe if the mono is wet for awhile it might make a difference...

[@duffmeister3373]

I don’t know about you, but I find the Florocarbon harder to tie knots in.

[@josepharvizzigno4641]

You need to perform the test after both lines are soaked in water. Mono (Nylon 610) absorbs water....Flouro does not. Once Mono Gets waterlogged....It looses abrasion resistance. The real test in application will be wet.

[@JP-ic2ze]

I feel Copolymer should be in all tests.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@snipersam204]

Blue label is not very abrasion resistant at all. A better abrasion floro is berkley vanish leader material. Not the line.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the insight!

[@bigwater_outdoors]

Do the test again but submerge the whole setup and see how water effects the test

[@Dr._Klopek]

If you regularly fish in gin clear water, flouro can make a difference. But if you fish in darker water like the back waters of estuaries, you’re better off with mono. And if you target big snook in dark water, like around spillways, in my experience nothing beats Mason’s hard mono

[@capnfishy]

Do you mean fluoro Vs nylon? Fluoro is a mono(filament) line, same as nylon.

[@Saltstrong]

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[@timothyroche6445]

PRETTY GOOD RULE OF THUMB, NEW AND IMPROVED ISN'T, ONLY CONSTANT. MORE EXPENSIVE,SMALLER PACKAGE.

[@FoodPornNetwork]

I had some berkley 12lb mono that was breaking off just by casting a swimbait, I wont buy that trash again.

[@charlestonsharkandsurf]

test trick fish red its practically cable lol

[@scottvaughn9565]

Good thing you didn't use trilene big game at 15lb. You'd still be stroking lol

[@Saltstrong]

lol