FluorX™ PVDF (Polyvinylidene fluoride) Made Using Arkema Kynar®, 3D Printing Filament from 3DXTech

[@mnrobards]

I’ve changed my comment on the video. Watching entire video again. This is a great start to my research on this material.

[@linuxinstalled]

This is really cool. A possible substitute for PPSU if it checks all your right boxes when it comes to chemical resistance. I also like that it can be printed without a high temp setup.

[@VisionMiner]

Yep, definitely! This will print on allllmost any printer :)

[@justinmoritz6543]

Im a fan of these videos, but I wish they were more scientific. It can be frustrating watching a video where the first half is super scripted and mostly just info grabbed online, then the latter half is just a bunch of fooling around. I think these videos would add much more value if were formatted cleaner and more thoroughly. Either way, these videos are free and I do enjoy them, so thanks. I hope to start doing my own testing soon enough.

[@VisionMiner]

Thanks! We're actually starting a new series of much shorter videos, where we compare filamets, and put them up to tests against each other -- shooting for 3-4 minutes each, but showing something measurable and quantifiable. There's a few things on the books, but we'd love to hear your ideas for what types of tests we can do, to demonstrate the materials in an understandable way -- please let us know your thoughts, and thanks for the comment!

[@cnc-maker]

@@VisionMiner since this is a sales video, I would expect a link in the description to the product on your site, with pricing. And yes, sales videos should be as short and concise as possible. Nice product. It would definitely work well in heated environments, if the price point is worth it.

[@jtbranman]

@@VisionMiner I enjoy your current videos. That guy is hilarious. You don't fall asleep while watching. You could do the standard video and cut that into short snippets with key information for those with a short attention span.

[@Sleepery22]

Yeah, same here. I did print lot of these materials and 3dxTech has awesome tech sheets, but I always wanted to see how would they do on test that, for example Stefan (CNC Kitchen) is doing. Otherwise these videos are really fun to watch! p.s. Please don't burn yourself, you pyromaniac! :D

[@w34356]

@@VisionMiner YES!!!!

[@VadimR4]

Would love to see impact strength (Charpy V-notch test) on the different materials comparing different materials and print orientations. PVDF looks impressive.

[@robertlackey7212]

Great video ! I don't trust datasheets , but I trust my eyes , so what you are doing is a real service to everyone. I would love to see a test of plastic hinges printed from different plastics , you could have the kind where the material is just made thinner and then bends and you could have a piano hinge where you print it in two parts and then press a rod into them to make a hinge. If there are plastics that are too brittle/weak for either kind of hinge , even for a short term test , I would know to cross them off my list for any designs that require hinges , that would save a lot of time .

[@TheMidnightSmith]

Not sure what makes this brand better, but I've used the Kynar PVDF from a sample box, tested a container with 98% sulfuric acid for 2 weeks. It never leaked or deformed. Very impressed. If I get my hands on some more, I'll test with weaker spent acid to see if it holds up as well.

[@estheriemai]

What printers can print PVDF?

[@diy-dash6103]

This material seems like a perfect candidate for carbon fiber fillers. I would think given some extra stiffness from the CF it would be close to perfect! 👌

[@ovDarkness]

It would lost it's thermal and electrical isolation properties.

[@josiahong5177]

not sure if this is true, but pvdf attacks steel and it might not work due to the abrasion of cf, requring ruby or tungsten nozzles.

[@josiahong5177]

@@ovDarkness Glass fiber

[@nilepolymers9037]

Great video and excellent presentation of a very interesting polymer. You mentioned a strong H-F bond. This is also repeated on the 3DXtech site. Actually, the strong bond in PVDF which provides many of the material property advantages (low surface energy, UV resistance, chemical resistance, etc.) is the C-F bond. The PVDF homopolymer has a CF2CH2 repeat unit. No H-F bonds. You won't get any HF bonds until thermal decomposition.

[@heathdaugherty8992]

This material is cool to work with. I emailed Rob for a material recommendation and he didn't disappoint.

[@VisionMiner]

His inbox fills up fast, as I'm sure you can imagine --- but we don't see any unanswered emails from you, perhaps it made it to spam? Feel free to call!

[@heathdaugherty8992]

@@VisionMiner Im sorry that was supposed to be a praise of Rob for helping me out. I explained what I was looking for and he said PVDF would be a perfect fit for my job.

[@GhostZero_x]

Lol. I love how they reference the Ender 3 :)

[@MrBLACKSHEEP2808]

First up, nice Video. I got my hands on a spool of this stuff. Now I was wondering on which surface I should print this ? I have PEI (smooth + textured) and FR4, what do you guys prefer ?

[@richardcox4096]

I'd love for you guys to visit some of the more commonplace thermoplastics, like as a benchmark. In other words though, I think this may be my new favorite material. I think if you were to reinforce this with carbon fiber you just win.

[@syberphish]

Everything is a tradeoff. If you did that it wouldn't have the properties it has now.

[@SaschaUncia]

Looks like a fun one to try, but at nearly $200 CAD to order in a spool it's too expensive to justify doing so without a good reason. The vase cracked like an eggshell, is this plastic impact resistant?

[@daniilbash512]

Love your channel!

[@VisionMiner]

Coming soon!

[@3dPrintingMillennial]

Do POM (if you haven't already). It's PETG hotend temp but ABS bed temp.

[@VisionMiner]

POM is terrible. We've done a few projects with it, and it's just a PAIN to work with, and good luck getting decent geometry, if you can even get it to stick to the bed -- we've switched to HTN, which is a direct replacement for Delrin -- machinable, abrasion resistant, and everything! visionminer.com/products/essentium-htn

[@rcbronco7830]

Will this work for gears where there is high torque is involve? For example , for use in rc car spur gears.

[@VisionMiner]

I would imagine it would be great for that, actually! Might also consider regular nylon or HTN, it's a bit more rigid.... but this could definitely work!

[@宗奇-e3k]

Applicable, Solvay Model 6008 can be used for injection molding

[@princefpv1]

KILLER VIDEO BOYS

[@MR.KNOWITALL1982]

@ vision miner Question. If you order something from your website how long does it usually take? The reason I ask is that it's going on day 9 still a no-show on an order?? It is still showing not shipped. Not trying to be a hater just asking. thanks

[@VisionMiner]

99% of the time we ship within 24 hours unless something is backorderd, but you should have heard something if that's the case. If you haven't received any store emails, you might have entered the wrong email, but shoot us a quick note at [e-mail] or call us at 833-774-6863, and we'll let you know exactly where your package is -- we're all about customer service, and I don't see any unfulfilled orders from that date, so it may be an internal error, but please give us a call and we'll take care of you :)

[@MR.KNOWITALL1982]

@@VisionMiner I spoke to Rob and he took very good care of me. Super helpful guy!! I think I found my new place to get printer materials and anything else. Thanks bro

[@VisionMiner]

@@MR.KNOWITALL1982 You got it, man! Super glad we found your comment!

[@RentableSocks]

can you guys ask 3dxtech for a carbon fiber filled ASA? :)

[@mnrobards]

Are the test bar printed or cast ?

[@travkel3722]

What is it’s dielectric potential?

[@lidarman2]

It's even NASA approved.

[@helpimlost137]

Since I can’t break it let’s burn it! Lmao

[@TheCarLovingSwede]

I'm starting to get tired of teasing this "stronger in z-axis" material. Will you keep teasing that for another year before releasing the video?

[@VisionMiner]

Video is almost out! :)

[@TheCarLovingSwede]

Nice! I can't wait

[@xyzebruh1083]

Gonna make another AR15 lower

[@systematicmeansllc]

Honestly using PVDF for chemical resistance is just wasteful, just get PPS. PVDF can be annealed to produce a dipole crystal phase giving it even better pyro/piezoelectric properties; your break and burn tests were generating literal electric fields. I want to pick up a spool to make transducers. My 3D-printed aeroponic tower will use them as irrigation atomizers

[@Crokto]

oh yeah i 3d print fishing line alllll the time. never on purpose tho...

[@Trumplican]

brims are a bad word? Brims are my life.

[@VisionMiner]

You should try our nano adhesive, we haven't had to use them in yearrrrrs :) visionminer.com/adhesive

[@Trumplican]

@@VisionMiner hmm maybe i'll try it out thanks!