Flutter just got Flocked! What does it mean for Flutter's future?

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Maximilian Schwarzmüller

Maximilian Schwarzmüller

Күн бұрын

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@TremaineBuchanan
@TremaineBuchanan Ай бұрын
Agree 100 percent. Once the flutter community is segmented in this way, I think it will cause confusion for developers who want to adopt Flutter in the future.
@arnolddevmode9603
@arnolddevmode9603 Ай бұрын
highly agree this is not the way
@antijulius
@antijulius Ай бұрын
Google is not giving Flutter the attention it deserves but this is definitely not the solution. Best case scenario it's the catalyst for Flutter getting more support but that's being very optimistic. Which... I'm not.
@ulrich-tonmoy
@ulrich-tonmoy Ай бұрын
nows the time for React Native
@eng3d
@eng3d Ай бұрын
​@@ulrich-tonmoythe market of js is more fragmented.
@OzzyTheGiant
@OzzyTheGiant Ай бұрын
@@ulrich-tonmoy No sir. We are done with React.
@int-64
@int-64 Ай бұрын
video starts at 3:22
@AniketSingh-hr8mi
@AniketSingh-hr8mi Ай бұрын
thanks man
@Mostafaabobakr7
@Mostafaabobakr7 Ай бұрын
Thaaaaanks
@abdelaesus6678
@abdelaesus6678 Ай бұрын
Thx
@ngideo
@ngideo Ай бұрын
Google: "ah, finally, now we can cancel this project"
@wicakradityo1734
@wicakradityo1734 Ай бұрын
"... before it eating more and more from our pocket" 😂
@jay_wright_thats_right
@jay_wright_thats_right Ай бұрын
LOL
@KangJangkrik
@KangJangkrik Ай бұрын
Imagine if Flock become more successful after Flutter terminated by Google, management would regret it lol
@trex511ft
@trex511ft 3 күн бұрын
@@KangJangkrik not gonna happen and flutter is not getting terminated either
@gorudonu
@gorudonu Ай бұрын
1 dude cloned a repo, tech youtuber and flutter haters - celebrate and make video
@MrlegendOr
@MrlegendOr Ай бұрын
Literally, all these guys are in shambles. 🙃
@krtirtho
@krtirtho Ай бұрын
Exactly! Finally found someone with actual thinking capability
@daniellbrinneman
@daniellbrinneman Ай бұрын
I bought your Flutter course a few years ago on Udemy and really like your slow pace and explanation throughout it. This is the first time I have seen your KZbin channel by chance and instantly recognized your voice.
@jameshamze
@jameshamze 24 күн бұрын
Did you finish it? If you finished it, would you recommend me another resource with it?
@daniellbrinneman
@daniellbrinneman 24 күн бұрын
@ I’m still going through it. I took a break from Flutter a couple years and now back looking at it, Swift, and Kotlin. They’re tutorials on KZbin too.
@dealloc
@dealloc Ай бұрын
Red flag I see already is that they don't go into the economics around hiring maintainers (they use the word "recruit" without specifying what that means) and how those resources are going to be allocated. Establishing a clear path for how maintenance around different parts of the project is going to take place is the major factor in whether a fork (or even project) will thrive or cease. It's more than just code and merging MRs for the sake of it. The hardest part, and main difference, between a fork of an already established project, and a completely new project is the fact that the latter allows you to grow more slowly; whereas the former, people already have high expectations for how the fork is going to move forward.
@obvinpro
@obvinpro Ай бұрын
one dude fork flutter, create a blog, and y'all are making videos about it.
@msjahun
@msjahun 28 күн бұрын
yeah when I forked flutter no body said anything about it
@daumienebi
@daumienebi 14 күн бұрын
Hahahahahaha​@@msjahun
@richardbranson8117
@richardbranson8117 3 күн бұрын
Facts.
@Gabeyre
@Gabeyre 4 күн бұрын
Google is having a hard time devwloping Flutter. Lets hope the community can do a better job.
@o_glethorpe
@o_glethorpe Ай бұрын
flutter team allegedly have 50+ people working there, thats a lot of people ifs true, I think flock can only help flutter get better, people says flutter got killed almost every week, and the number of people that uses it continue to grow...
@MrlegendOr
@MrlegendOr Ай бұрын
Is basically the story of React Native's bots. Every week they try to convince themselves that Flutter is going to die. Is like going out into the desert, doing a rain dance and hoping it will rain. 🙃
@eng3d
@eng3d Ай бұрын
afaik, Google fired many flutter dev
@leoe.r.7338
@leoe.r.7338 Ай бұрын
​​@@MrlegendOr lol 😂, yeah I see this form react native guys every day. They pray for the end flutter.
@JatBadmos
@JatBadmos Ай бұрын
😂
@maran.ath4
@maran.ath4 Ай бұрын
nah mate, with a lot of experience building actual cross platform with flutter, desktop support is bloody amazing, prefer it over native desktop, it's come a long way and done well, I even have another desktop app underway and since it's responsive, if i feel like it, I'll simply release it for web as well, and I haven't had issues with my web app either,w with wasm build time has significantly gone down
@himmelkami3308
@himmelkami3308 Ай бұрын
yeah,flutter desktop is truly amazing and that is why I use flutter.
@jameshamze
@jameshamze 24 күн бұрын
Bro would you mind if I need your mentorship on flutter?
@daumienebi
@daumienebi 14 күн бұрын
Hi here, congrats on your flutter desktop app. Did you app need the multi window feature and how did you go about it?
@himmelkami3308
@himmelkami3308 14 күн бұрын
@@daumienebi multi window is possible however official support is desperate needed. So you are right this is what I want from flutter official.
@daumienebi
@daumienebi 13 күн бұрын
You're right, it would be great to have the official support but in the meantime, did you use any of the existing packages or you developed your own solution?​@@himmelkami3308
@CheoWalker
@CheoWalker Ай бұрын
To be honest I was happy when flutter announced desktop support, but it was a bit underwhelming. The fact that the Firebase Packages do not work for Windows set me on a journey to find an alternative to Firebase. And now it feels like Flutter focus sometimes is to push Google's AI.
@viniciusmelquiades
@viniciusmelquiades Ай бұрын
I haven't done any mobile development in the last few years and wanted to get back to it, but seeing Google pushing it's AI on Flutter makes me rethink that
@danvilela
@danvilela Ай бұрын
Desktop and web was so disapointing.. they stopped evolving ios and android because of it. And is not really useful
@rompis.a
@rompis.a Ай бұрын
@@danvilela Nah, iOS and Android is already reaching their peak. Unless a new form factor or a revolutionary way to compute+communicate on the go is invented, they're stuck in this form. Web is not to be blamed here. If anything, it looks like mobile apps has been killing the web for the past 10 or so years. If you really want to blame something, blame AI.
@fritzdeuces
@fritzdeuces Ай бұрын
It's about time... Flutter development has stalled over the years. Maybe flock can get to the peak quicker than flutter.
@damien.devillian
@damien.devillian Ай бұрын
It does almost feel like Google is distancing itself from flutter, simply by seeing how each Android Studio update is less integrated than the previous version. It is a constant worry if they'd just pull the plug on it one day. Always important to remember, very large corps (Google, Amazon, etc) have an almost dictatorial control over the environment, simple because everyone always "wants to join the biggest". Until they start having to conform to arbitrary rules, or in this case, forced to follow the same rate of expansion, they realised they've been given too much power. So I do think we should still try to support an alternative, smaller projects, even if it means just not giving a single entity full control over something.
@hendawyjr
@hendawyjr 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for the clear explanation and valuable insights into the challenges and processes within the Flutter community. Your way of breaking things down shows a deep understanding of the topic, and as someone new to your channel, I already feel enlightened. Best regards, Tehuti from Egypt. From my experience, I can see how Flutter's journey aligns with your points. The community has grown tremendously in recent years, even as the core team faced resource constraints. Despite this, they’ve achieved impressive milestones, laying a strong foundation for limitless improvement. The emergence of Flock, a community-driven fork of Flutter, feels like a natural step in the lifecycle of any distinguished framework. Projects like this remind me of historical forks, such as C's evolution into diverse implementations that shaped modern programming. Flock’s aim to incorporate community-driven updates and features could bring exciting possibilities for Flutter's future. It’ll be fascinating to see how this unfolds for developers and the ecosystem!
@arnoudt
@arnoudt 15 күн бұрын
HR: At least 10 years of experience with Flock. Developer: I have 6 years of experience with Flutter, which is essentially the same thing. HR: No sorry, we really need Flock experience.
@celebiinternational7749
@celebiinternational7749 Ай бұрын
ITS NOT FLUTTER COMMUNITY , JUST 2 GUYS DUDE
@jonathanbersot6549
@jonathanbersot6549 Ай бұрын
2 frustrated guys... same history here. everyone I know that was talking about it was a bunch of Flutter haters LOL
@celebiinternational7749
@celebiinternational7749 Ай бұрын
@jonathanbersot6549 exactly
@truthalwaysprevails662
@truthalwaysprevails662 Ай бұрын
Ah, classic Google! Step 1: Launch a cool product. Step 2: Wait until everyone loves it. Step 3: Kill it off. Remember Orkut? Wave? And in 2022, they just ghosted the OG AngularJS, and now, RIP Chromecast.
@maximilianotorres7130
@maximilianotorres7130 Ай бұрын
Tbh , og angularjs needed to go the way of the dodo. It was shunned by the community a long time before 2022
@SilasDuarte-e9k
@SilasDuarte-e9k Ай бұрын
Angular must die too
@truthalwaysprevails662
@truthalwaysprevails662 Ай бұрын
@@maximilianotorres7130 yeah, that's fair. I still remember struggling and cursing Angular JS back in 2016 😂. My comment was more regarding the way goggle discards running services and products.
@saiphaneeshk.h.5482
@saiphaneeshk.h.5482 Ай бұрын
Don't forget JAMBOARD
@truthalwaysprevails662
@truthalwaysprevails662 Ай бұрын
@@saiphaneeshk.h.5482 I did mention Jamboard in a separate comment, that too twich but somehow KZbin kept deleting my comment. Don't know why
@msgreat3648
@msgreat3648 10 күн бұрын
I start learning flutter 2 months ago and i have to say i love it its so easy to understand and the documentation is the best they put so much eafert on it and will alwayes support flutter ❤❤❤❤❤
@SharCourse
@SharCourse Ай бұрын
I'm one of the 300k student for that flutter course you create.
@Maxo_metr
@Maxo_metr Ай бұрын
And how it went?
@SharCourse
@SharCourse Ай бұрын
@@Maxo_metr very informative and helpful
@kneeh
@kneeh Ай бұрын
I left WPF and UWP for windows development in favor of flutter and never looked back, works great !
@box4soumendu4ever
@box4soumendu4ever Ай бұрын
Fantastic unbiased explanation ❤
@maximilian-schwarzmueller
@maximilian-schwarzmueller Ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@umitcelik5508
@umitcelik5508 Ай бұрын
Max. React Native announced new architecture with v0.76. Can you make content with it?
@toTheMuh
@toTheMuh Ай бұрын
Yeah, thats ja huge architectural refactore there and now react native might has (near) native performance. I am really curious about that and hope that Max updates his react native course soon.
@vaisakh_km
@vaisakh_km Ай бұрын
This cloud be a big reason to choose react native over flutter,
@makisetakashi
@makisetakashi Ай бұрын
is it new arch will help to make it less painful for migrating from 0.5 to latest?
@NiladriRaychaudhuri-h6g
@NiladriRaychaudhuri-h6g Ай бұрын
Hi Max, Thanks for your valuable insight here. My Flutter journey started with your Udemy Tutorial back in 2019 and has been a great experience since then. In my limited understanding, Flock team's effort might get wasted depending on how fast Google or anyone else comes up with the AI alternative of building cross-platform Apps.
@CanalianInc
@CanalianInc Ай бұрын
Its probably a good idea, I remember talking to one of the devs and he didn't know if he would even still have his job that afternoon. He was talking about all the things they couldn't work on due to lack of staff, that was a year ago, i guess its got worse now.
@darasat
@darasat Ай бұрын
It's a marketing thing Flutter is a great tool but how you convince big corporations to use it, we hope the community could resolve the issues in a better agile way.
@m4toro
@m4toro 2 күн бұрын
@@darasat Google sure knows. Otherwise Xiaomi, Samsung, LG electronics, Bwm, Toyota, Alibaba and many others would not use flutter today, not only today, but from the beginning of its existence.
@eth6706
@eth6706 20 күн бұрын
1 dude forked Flutter and now you're making a video about it. Congrats
@niamotullah99
@niamotullah99 21 күн бұрын
The problem of flutter is that it is backed by Google. Google prioritizes innovations after business
@jkkdev
@jkkdev Ай бұрын
Flutter is good as it is. I'm feeling like it's starting to get a little more like JavaScript. It is the same reason why I find it hard to learn JavaScript; There is a vast number of tools that you could use, that causes confusion especially to someone like me who's just starting to learn.
@m4toro
@m4toro Ай бұрын
A framework starting to get a little more like a programming language?
@stevebraintv
@stevebraintv Ай бұрын
unbiased and straight forward, I will suggest Google hire him to head the flutter team if he's so passionate about solving the issues and bring flutter to the next level.
@shanmichaelreyes6255
@shanmichaelreyes6255 4 күн бұрын
Nope
@destined2doom
@destined2doom Ай бұрын
Kotlin might stand to gain, but it's unsettling how effortlessly Google can neglect something valuable, like Flutter. It’s as though they’ve learned nothing from the massive mistake of not acquiring Sun Microsystems..
@ArchitecturalAesthetics2046
@ArchitecturalAesthetics2046 Ай бұрын
Why does Google always do this to their beloved, yet not profitable products?
@mystwalker479
@mystwalker479 Ай бұрын
exactly you've answered your own question
@DaniyalMoeen-j3h
@DaniyalMoeen-j3h Ай бұрын
Google could just sync up angular with flutter instead of focusing on its web support. they could introduce dart support in angular and let angular handle that aspect for flutter.
@AioriaPoderoso
@AioriaPoderoso Ай бұрын
No that would suck
@infantfrontender6131
@infantfrontender6131 Ай бұрын
We already have Angular Dart. The main repo is archived, and the community repo is dead. Nobody is not interested in Angular Dart
@maxandersmusic
@maxandersmusic Ай бұрын
I like to use flutter web right now
@cstephen4695
@cstephen4695 Ай бұрын
hmmm, so what other frameworks i should USE for multiplatform now??
@meidy3795
@meidy3795 Ай бұрын
KMP / CMP
@m4toro
@m4toro Ай бұрын
Flutter, lol. There are literally no arguments not to use flutter for new projects. KMP is only ok if business already has a kotlin/java products that are in prod, and it for some reason struggle to maintain both native platforms.
@meidy3795
@meidy3795 Ай бұрын
@@m4toro For now yes, use flutter if you are not from either swift or Kotlin Developers. But when CMP is mature enough, android native developers can leverage their skillset to Multiplatform
@m4toro
@m4toro Ай бұрын
​@@meidy3795it will probably be far from now. CMP steps on the same rakes as Flutter did once from it's beginning. In comparison Flutter is already more mature than CMP, most companies will consider this. Business is not waiting, so when CMP will be ready to use, there would be a lot of flutter legacy projects already, it's really a matter of time.
@cstephen4695
@cstephen4695 Ай бұрын
@@m4toro thanks for your feedback
@sheldonsays9922
@sheldonsays9922 Ай бұрын
Let's be realistic. Flutter is an amazing framework. But it never took off commercially and never will. With the reduction in team size, frustration on time taken for PR approvals ending up with flock, it is simply on a downward trend. It's not gonna die off today. But It will just stay on as a fond framework for personal projects. Small apps. Depends on your perspective whether that counts as alive or dead.
@badartagar6397
@badartagar6397 26 күн бұрын
Flutter is forked like many projects. Main point is that Flutter is not archived.👈😀
@dbred67
@dbred67 Ай бұрын
If they forked to fill a gap such as games it would make sense otherwise feels like a huge waste of time.
@amersohail794
@amersohail794 Ай бұрын
How will you compare it with react native? If you were given option to choose the one for next project which one you will choose without having any emotional attachment with either one :)
@AetherA11y
@AetherA11y Ай бұрын
Hit the nail on the head. Google has done basically nothing with Flutter in over a year. Accessibility issues aren’t being fixed. They’ve moved most of the team to other projects. Start something, get users, then abandon it, that’s their playbook.
@TheBadFred
@TheBadFred Ай бұрын
Futter web does work but Next (React), svelte etc. is much smaller (and faster to load) if it app has more than 2-3 screens/pages.
@farellalvaro8392
@farellalvaro8392 Ай бұрын
Please update your flutter course to flock. Love to see in the future❤
@pemrograman-cepat3393
@pemrograman-cepat3393 Ай бұрын
Currently I use ionic/angular to build mobile apps. But this phenomenon makes me think twice to use flutter, probably I'll use react native or NativeScript (since I know some angular) if I want to switch to native mobile apps. For web world, I am lazy to try react. Just still stick to angular (because many corporations like it). But maybe I'll try Laravel (for my freelance needs) in the near future. But Svelte also seems legit. hmm, just my opinion
@abidibnazam4462
@abidibnazam4462 Ай бұрын
I switched from React to Svelte, and I love it
@m4toro
@m4toro Ай бұрын
Flutter in some ways inherits things from angular and dart as language really feels like TS, JavaScript or whatever. You may definitely try to create a simple Todo app to taste dart/flutter.
@edi_gun_awan
@edi_gun_awan Ай бұрын
ah, thats why flutter update seems slowing down. Back to native kotlin i guess 😒google just ruined flutter
@danvilela
@danvilela Ай бұрын
Agree 100%. Flutter only ios and android would be years ahead of what is now..
@Desafecto
@Desafecto Ай бұрын
Firing programmers in a company with so much money can only mean that Flutter is getting in their way. They have opted for other formulas for multiplatform development. It's nothing personal, just business.
@Thinknotix
@Thinknotix Ай бұрын
Who else is old enough to remember the Flock browser?
@xuantung8660
@xuantung8660 Ай бұрын
I think it's good, new features/bugs fix can come faster.
@ErnestoGrundy
@ErnestoGrundy 24 күн бұрын
Totally agree bro, additionally I think the biggest problem of flutter its Dart
@soumyadeepghosh4428
@soumyadeepghosh4428 Ай бұрын
Hey please update your backend course!
@Zim_88
@Zim_88 Ай бұрын
I'm new to this, you said there is a difference between Flutter and React Native. It would be interesting to know. If you needed to make an app for mobile what would you prefer between Flutter and React Native.
@infantfrontender6131
@infantfrontender6131 Ай бұрын
Depends. If you know JS and have experience in React, then give a try to RN and Expo. If you have time to learn Dart and Flutter, then try it. I think the best way is to try both, for example, create a ToDo app and decide which is more pleasurable for you.
@anmarm.9487
@anmarm.9487 Ай бұрын
A like for your point at 6:00 I think they should just focus on Mobile and Small Devices. Web has alot of great Frameworks and libraries we dont need another new Library or a framework.
@viniciusmelquiades
@viniciusmelquiades Ай бұрын
I kind of understand the point of web. Flutter is meant to run anywhere where we can render pixels, and dart was originally meant to be transpiled to JS. But they should have more people. We have now 6 platforms (7 if you count Fuchsia), so the team seems a little small.
@anmarm.9487
@anmarm.9487 Ай бұрын
@@viniciusmelquiades Point taken (transpiled to JavaScript) But when Flutter change to web is making everything JavaScript, which is really unnecessary, Web and its browsers now very capable, Developers should update there Knowledge about HTML and CSS. The rules i follow when i build a web App or any website, i do everything possible when html and css only then i start plug in javascript for somethings. all apps i have built, Fast, stable, and reflects customer requirements. Rule of thumb always build your web app using pure HTML and CSS then plug JavaScript to it (Client Side).
@kuntaldey4471
@kuntaldey4471 Ай бұрын
Hello Sir, I enrolled in your amazing sql course, it inspired me to become a developer, can you please tell the scope of Flutter in 2025 as a fresher?
@TheBadFred
@TheBadFred Ай бұрын
It should be possible to off a complete new widgets as a Lib, right?
@mahmood466
@mahmood466 Ай бұрын
Flock will not succeed! It will be a mess. Mark my comment for the years coming!
@arc8218
@arc8218 Ай бұрын
Yeah, i never liked it since the beginning
@TerenceKearns
@TerenceKearns Ай бұрын
I'm putting my eggs in the Kotlin basket. Nothing but good news coming out of the Jetbrains team. Compose Multiplatform is in beta and it looks good to me. Kotlin 2 is also on the horizon and they have the pedal to the metal. I'm investing all my time into learning Kotlin at the moment and I gotta say, it's way better than I expected.
@TerenceKearns
@TerenceKearns Ай бұрын
Oh yeah. And google has thrown the full support behind compose multiplatform. But it's not up to google. It's up to jetbrains. Plus the product is built on top of (and compatible with) decades of Java libraries and pedigree. That's why I chose it. It just has more of a foundation under it.
@PedroBarbosaRoman
@PedroBarbosaRoman Ай бұрын
Btw, Kotlin is already in its 2.x.x versions!
@stevepottz111
@stevepottz111 Ай бұрын
Kotlin is quite nice.
@gorudonu
@gorudonu Ай бұрын
@@TerenceKearns no, only for KMP not CMP. Also, after using compose for some time, I'd pick flutter everytime
@TerenceKearns
@TerenceKearns Ай бұрын
@@gorudonu yeah I think it will be a while before K2 is in CMP. I'm cool with that. The point being is that the project overall is progressing very well unlike flutter. I looked into flutter but it doesn't suit my needs and I prefer to structure of CMP and I don't want to learn a programming language that can only be used with one technology. I've used Java back in the day and it was powerful but painful. Now with Kotlin, it's even more powerful but less pain. Enough to bring me out of retirement ;)
@mzhomie8880
@mzhomie8880 Ай бұрын
Hopefully they simplify the setup and files in the project.
@luizmeier
@luizmeier Ай бұрын
I doubt the Flutter team won't be expanded. So it's better to stay and focus on the official one.
@zyzer01
@zyzer01 Ай бұрын
Great move from flock, before google decide to shut it down tomorrow.
@seanvogel8067
@seanvogel8067 Ай бұрын
Max, do you have another channel?
@vladbarbu3372
@vladbarbu3372 Ай бұрын
In my own experience flutter for mobile development is better than react native. In RN sometimes I had bugs and no straight answer on why and how (ofc the complexity of JS adds to the equation) In flutter most of the times I can find the root cause much faster. For web? I would go for react most of the times
@abhayshandle
@abhayshandle Ай бұрын
Bs. Cuz number one is that flutter is open-source, and thus u have the free fork out of the box, we have felt too not exactly solves the same issues but idk if it's even worth it. Nobody will switch NGL, and anyone can fork that project idk what's the big deal on that. And people use flutter to build apps for all platforms, web isn't that accepted right now, but can change in future and no way a team of two flock devs can change that. Mark my words. Flutter is great. Getx is great. Clean architecture is upto the devs, keeping stuff modular and performant
@mohammadqbbani501
@mohammadqbbani501 25 күн бұрын
What happened to Flutter made me really hate Google
@barnabtz
@barnabtz Ай бұрын
Going back fully to react native... And its new architecture makes it promising...
@o_glethorpe
@o_glethorpe Ай бұрын
Will this new architecture be really native like it says it is? Or will continue to embed javascript?
@OzzyTheGiant
@OzzyTheGiant Ай бұрын
I will die on this hill. No React and it's disgusting mess of hooks
@danvilela
@danvilela Ай бұрын
Tbh im leaving flutter as well. But thinking of going native. I hate android anyway..
@barnabtz
@barnabtz Ай бұрын
@@danvilela Well android has a good control over the market. I believe is good to know one cross-platform and one native. and i will choose with jetpack compose making it really easy too. That my believe.
@barnabtz
@barnabtz 25 күн бұрын
Yeah true. Presently studying jetpack compose from Udemy and its good and easy compared to xml. I will choose react native from cross platform.
@dinoscheidt
@dinoscheidt Ай бұрын
😂 Flutter devs now can’t only solve basic os integrations like screen readers but also where to source their library from 😂 It’s just comical to see engineers spending any time on a side project from a hand full of Google engineers. Ya know, the company with the largest tech grave yard
@LinxfordK
@LinxfordK Ай бұрын
While nothing is certain, Flutter's current trajectory suggests Google's continued support. Worst-case scenario: If Google were to "kill" Flutter, the community would likely: 1. Fork the project. >> Flutter isn't going to die...... it will live just like linux, so flock is right........and we must add to that.. 2. Continue development. 3. Ensure compatibility. Flutter's open-source nature guarantees its survival.
@ahmedbathily7013
@ahmedbathily7013 2 күн бұрын
Many Google apps are made in flutter so Google Will not let down flutter soon just people are Making assumption that
@sagarjadhav6568
@sagarjadhav6568 Ай бұрын
Should I buy his Course in 2024 ?? or look for newer Courses ???
@evans8245
@evans8245 Ай бұрын
recruiters next month: womp womp, nothing we can do budd, we only have 10yr experience flock devs
@ragibshahariar3169
@ragibshahariar3169 Ай бұрын
Good luck to Flock
@wicakradityo1734
@wicakradityo1734 Ай бұрын
From a years ago, the flutter pathetic state is began, though. Become stagnant and not google priority anymore, very sad :( Devs, be mindful, be open minded, know and understand about whats going on under the hood with flutter.
@dubidu420
@dubidu420 Ай бұрын
Flutter keeps fluttering, time for it to settle down
@kasvith
@kasvith Ай бұрын
I just moved from flutter because no matter what you do, framework doesnt support you :D you have to install ton of third party packages like riverpod etc but they all sucks
@danvilela
@danvilela Ай бұрын
Same here.. after years believing in flutter and selling the idea.. is just stuck. Seems the same since 2018. I dont like the libs
@maurice9826
@maurice9826 Ай бұрын
You don’t have to. InheritedWidget and ChangeNotifier or ValueNotifier are all that you need.
@cafecomjavascript
@cafecomjavascript Ай бұрын
Which one,, Flutter x React Native ?
@GaBoyInKy
@GaBoyInKy Ай бұрын
As someone who has taken a number of your courses via Udemy my only complaint with you is your failure to commit to teaching one simple way. Now this is with only beginners. You choose to teach multiple ways of doing an action instead of teaching one single way for a beginner to grasp so they can move forward. Now for those who can't understand what I'm referring to you this is none of your concern. This is one of the reasons why PHP has a bad rep because there are so many of ways of doing the same thing. Say what you want but I'm not alone in this reaction.
@arc8218
@arc8218 Ай бұрын
Another angularjs moment
@shekishral6570
@shekishral6570 29 күн бұрын
I just heard ( from the text ), mee, the fluter team dosen't accept my contribution nor wants me in their team, I will try to make my own copy, and you will see I will do it better, mee....
@valerii-link
@valerii-link 4 күн бұрын
1 month later... Let's see how active that fork is... Well, it's not. And what is the point in general? What is born to be in the Google graveyard will b - Wait, wait, probably Flutter devs are not ready for it.
@Yarkanlaki
@Yarkanlaki Ай бұрын
Can I fork flutter too ?
@m4toro
@m4toro Ай бұрын
Everyone can fork it, it's bsd3
@LetrixAR
@LetrixAR Ай бұрын
@@m4toro based?
@Z-add
@Z-add Ай бұрын
So now our options are... Net maui and kotlin multiplatform.
@rayatbinnasir6232
@rayatbinnasir6232 Ай бұрын
nah this is pointless, flutter seems to be good enough as it is, id rather saying the fork will be the source of more confusions and segmentations than the current issues. Flutter feels bloody amazing in both dektstop and mobile. People just forking everything right and left nowadays. Even rust got forked at one point and now the fork's last commit to the main branch was 3 months ago. Better let google handle stuff instead of letting random people on the net do it. At least google can take responsibility. Who knows when these people might ghost the project.
@imadetheuniverse4fun
@imadetheuniverse4fun Ай бұрын
why do people complain about open source when open sourcey stuff happens? if forking flutter was such a bad idea, why was it forkable? if it's not a bad idea, then why does this matter?
@maurice9826
@maurice9826 Ай бұрын
The main thing about open source is that you can contribute by fixing issues, suggesting or adding features you need, or even maintaining deprecated packages. Without access to the code, however, you can’t do anything. In this case, it seems that the fork is purely out of displeasure with how the active project is being maintained. It’s a valid point, but it should be approached carefully.
@talhabinkhalilmuhmmad4159
@talhabinkhalilmuhmmad4159 Ай бұрын
Max, Please update react native Udemy course. A lot of things have been changed in react native and expo
@nero1375
@nero1375 Ай бұрын
I've learned React in one day and tried RN for weeks. Is not that difficult to tweak the new changes in the new architecture. The overall course of Max already covers what you need to know. Don't rely too much on courses
@talhabinkhalilmuhmmad4159
@talhabinkhalilmuhmmad4159 Ай бұрын
@@nero1375 i have done a number of projects in react native and expo. But for deep down learning of expo, expo prebuilds, eas , expo router and new arch course helps a lot.
@dmitriyobidin6049
@dmitriyobidin6049 26 күн бұрын
Nooooo, why? We don't need to spread our concentration... It will only lead to more confusion, between developers and between customers.
@faheemahmad3957
@faheemahmad3957 Ай бұрын
Flutter should only focus on. Android and web. Simple.
@MadalinIgnisca
@MadalinIgnisca Ай бұрын
In the last 25 years all projects I saw named Flock failed fast.
@danvilela
@danvilela Ай бұрын
This could be something like React and Preact though..
@kamelberbiche8028
@kamelberbiche8028 23 күн бұрын
I lost so much time following your udemy courses
@AliYar-Khan
@AliYar-Khan Ай бұрын
Definitely have my reservations ... and i don't recommend that ... Instead contribute to main project and Google should increase flutter team to at least 1000 people
@pedrowithu
@pedrowithu Ай бұрын
this idea feels really childish to say the least, but who am I? time will tell
@bloodline39
@bloodline39 Ай бұрын
Just hope that Google doesn't kill Golang (although Go is os)
@Nuraddinhassan
@Nuraddinhassan Ай бұрын
no, already Golang being used in big products, like docker and Kubernetes, so no kill
@arc8218
@arc8218 Ай бұрын
Nah that one already too big to kill lol
@m4toro
@m4toro Ай бұрын
Go as dart or flutter are products of Google that have passed average life expectancy of Google's dead products, so you can relax, it will not happen.
@eddyavailable
@eddyavailable Ай бұрын
argument is childish. It will only divide and confuse.
@mindblower113
@mindblower113 Ай бұрын
I glad I left Flutter after 1 year. Now I stick with React and it's beautiful.
@wildanalifr9583
@wildanalifr9583 Ай бұрын
so using react native?
@danvilela
@danvilela Ай бұрын
Hard to believe. I see so many people complaining about RN DX
@sidarth404
@sidarth404 Ай бұрын
its already done by flet years ago
@hanmajack935
@hanmajack935 Ай бұрын
Looks like the beginning of the end. Google played enough, realized that they will never beat React Native on this battlefield and just left Flutter to die
@GreatTaiwan
@GreatTaiwan Ай бұрын
They were already ahead of React Native
@hanmajack935
@hanmajack935 Ай бұрын
@@GreatTaiwan No they weren't
@konoko-o3o
@konoko-o3o Ай бұрын
@@GreatTaiwan Only in your dreams
@selcuksezer6
@selcuksezer6 Ай бұрын
react native is an abomination. Only serious competition for mobile cross-platform is between Flutter and KMP. Even though Flutter is released a lot later than react native with a language no one knew, it still surpassed react native, if that does not tell you how shitty RN is nothing will (jk, actually using it will also do it xd)
@hanmajack935
@hanmajack935 Ай бұрын
Bla bla bla))), while Flutter and Kmp compete with each other, who will die first, React Native was and will be the king of cross-platform development
@ابنعطية-ه7ه
@ابنعطية-ه7ه Ай бұрын
i guess they don´t know that flutter have a github repo
@shalithadev
@shalithadev Ай бұрын
Here we go again. Google is doing its thing
@utpalroy5470
@utpalroy5470 Ай бұрын
U can record flutter advance topic Udemy
@manticomar1146
@manticomar1146 25 күн бұрын
Wake up flutter is dead they killing it compose multi platform rules far more superior. Long live kmp
@PaulSebastianM
@PaulSebastianM Ай бұрын
Floc means pubic hair (singular) in Romanian...
@techzone2009
@techzone2009 Ай бұрын
😂😂
@kelas.kreatif
@kelas.kreatif Ай бұрын
wkkwkw fvk
@randomusername982374
@randomusername982374 Ай бұрын
This is bad, it only divides the flutter community. Flock needs to have a clear different approach than flutter otherwise both projects are going to fail each other.
@Dabayare
@Dabayare 22 күн бұрын
Guys still programming android in Java must be laughing at flutter community.
@squidproxy136
@squidproxy136 Ай бұрын
are they backed by google too ? the flock team.
@m4toro
@m4toro Ай бұрын
Of course not, "flock team" will and already just merge flutter's master into flock's one.
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