FLY SHOP ETIQUETTE - FLY FISHING

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[@charlieboutin3341]

There’s a flyshop in my small town in central Texas. He’s 86 and doesn’t fish much anymore, but traveled in his youth to places of dreams. If he says use it..I will Guarantee it will catch fish. He needed a small amount of electric work finished that he started years before and I’m an electrician so did the hour or so work and said no charge. My next visit he slid me a box and said no charge, it contained top quality fly materials,marabou, hackle, various hair etc. and in the bottom there was a high grade 4wt TFO rod, reel, line and backing. I brought him 2 bags of White bass fillets the next week. We’ve been trading for 2 years now. We are the best of friends. (ps: The very first thing he sold me was Charlie Cravens, Fly Tying Basics book). Really enjoy your videos! Sorry so long😑. Good fishing to you🎣

[@andrewdomonic6603]

Stuff like this it what the whole thing is about. Right on.

[@williamholland2969]

Hill country fly fishers I need to make my way out there from Austin

[@jamesdisanzo]

Super awesome story!

[@Fncees]

Thanks for the post. You have restored my faith in humanity! I love this.

[@TroutChasersRiverCo.]

Lol awesome story!

[@craigphillips7258]

Solid advice...thank you. Once burned, twice cautious...was turned off by a fly shop where I once lived that treated me, the new guy, like the village idiot; then I learned from others that they treated everyone that way. I went there to to buy a new rod and ended going across the state to another shop for the purchase. Why are some shops run by absolute dickheads?

[@sellaree4624]

Seems to be either a really nice staff or a bunch of ass hats for my fly shops

[@CONEHEADDK]

"As a service" a fishing shop sent my shooting line with bubles to the importer, even though it was bought somewhere else. After I had asked about it a few times, the owner asked me, if I'd have an other brand, so I could go fishing, and I - beginner - accepted and thanked him. But it rurned out to be a very crappy pos with a mono cord, that curled up like a spring, and was problematic in many ways. It tuned out to be some cheap china crap. Damn I've talked bad about the owner ever since - 20 years of bad PR to make a quick buck - FU Ronni

[@davemandel2673]

Alot of fly shops and guides have less time on the river than most of their clients. They are famous for being rude and belittle the clients, then no one would dare to ask a question that would require alot of experience...true story.

[@lordofthemound3890]

This kind of snobbish, asshole behavior pops up a lot in specialty shops: guitar shops, bicycle shops, fly shops. Many people that work at these places seem to do so only for their own ego edification.

[@craigphillips7258]

@@lordofthemound3890, thankfully I have a shop in St. Louis that's tops.

[@Deepcreek724]

Anymore it seems like flyshop employees are entitled trust funds kids that look down on anyone that does not have the fancy gear. Have had this happen at more then one shop and did not return. Oh and yes I spent 3 plus years working and guiding at a fly shop in SW Montana.

[@nunliski]

Everything about this very video reflected a sense of entitlement.

[@FlyMastersOfIndy]

Good observations about fly shops. But when you have people walking through your door daily to buy bait, it is a bad business plan to send them somewhere else. Most of us caught our first fish on a worm and bobber. WE WANT those people coming through our doors repeatedly! Most eventually become fly fishing anglers. While other shops come and go, we have been at it for 30 years, and we are still growing!

[@nunliski]

You really seem to have a much better attitude than Huge Fly Fisherman. You don't seem to tell your customers that it is their obligation to make your business successful.

[@FlyMastersOfIndy]

@@nunliski We enjoy all anglers! There are enough people in the world who want to tell you what to do. You sure as hell don't need that experience in your fishin' store! Have a great year fishin'?

[@CONEHEADDK]

@@nunliski I'm a tiny fisherman, and when I was a volontere in a fishing club, I mostly taught kids how to tie flies. And not having forgotten how grown ups can ruin everything for kids, I didn't care about the teaching - but in their experiences. I asked the victim, what kind of fish, they wanted to catch, then gave them some books, to choose the fly from, that they wanted to tie. Never had any problems at all with even the "special class" kids - and when an 9-10 yo of those was walking out the door, holding his moms hand, and he turned around and said to me: "You are the best teacher I've ever had" (and he had met "special kids teachers all his life) I knew, that I had passed the test. You are there for them - not for them to be forced into doing, what you wish, you had done as a kid.

[@moosepasshippie]

There should be a “Do’s and Don’ts” how fly shops should treat people. My wife worked at a fly shop for years. If it was not for her, I would have only visited that place once.

[@truethought2581]

Absolutely.... Austin Anglers Absolutely smug fks... I'll never go back and will discourage my friends from them.

[@andrewwalker9368]

Thanks for the video this week! Always look forward to it. However, what do I do if the employees/owner at my local fly shop are everything you tell us not to be? They are rude, pompous and never helpful. I am always courteous when I absolutely feel like I have to go there, but the favor is never returned. I always feel like they don't want me there. I live in a small rural state without many options.

[@HugeFlyFisherman]

If you can't find a better shop locally, order online from a reputable one somewhere else.

[@fliesbychris]

I always take beer for the fly shop, it's nice to be nice(it's always German beer).

[@mr.robinson1982]

My local Fly shop is K&K's in Overland Park Kansas. Awesome guys, I buy 95% of my gear from them. Rods, reels, lines, tying gear, lures, boxes, clothing, & tying classes. Its so much better than the large sporting goods store that supply machined made flies that fall apart on contact with water...

[@douglyons2678]

Funniest show I had was artva shop on a Famous Eastern River. Went in and all the bins had Latin names for the bugs they imitate. Not an Adams or a Light Cahill to be found. I got a couple flies and went to check out. The guy behind the counter noted that he had never seen me before. I acknowledged that it was my first time on the river. He immediately announced I would catch nothing. After a little back and forth it was with great satisfaction that I told him I had just caught three fish and was hoping to pick up another one or two of the flies that had turned the trick. When he asked I just said a Wooly Bugger. His grown was audible. My satisfaction was silent but well earned.

[@johnbmadwis]

Right on dude. You did not address the issue everyone rolls out about local shops being more expensive. Too which the response should be - not always, so what, too bad, go bowl instead, drink some domestic to save some $. The couple extra bucks to a local shop keeps its lights on, keeps it local, adds to the soul of a community that is being franchised and big boxed to death. Even if you buy online for convenience, buy online from a local shop. They can get you anything you want. A world without the sane refuge of local fly shops is gross. The longer I fish, the more I learn when I go into fly shops.

[@coreytohme9861]

My thoughts exactly. I do not have a "local" fly shop near me thus it makes it hard to pick out materials and such. Every time I've called a fly shop to order materials, they have been VERY helpful to make sure I get exactly what I want. Had I ordered it blindly, I would have likely received an inferior product.

[@TheSaikung]

Great advice! ...and yes the expert (you know...."I've fished here, there, on the moon, saltwater, freshwater" etc etc.) in the fly shop, seen a few of these dudes ....I mean really....why go in if you know everything?? Also...trying before you buy....................online....is just the lowest sort of fly behaviour. Love the videos.

[@tprfk]

Ask them to pick you out 12 flies and a leader that work locally and buy a hat from the shop....THEN ask them where to fish. I have way too many hats and flies but too little information and productive information is not free.

[@nunliski]

A fly shop is not a god damn charity. Other people are not obligated to "prop it up as much as we can." If you want your shop to be successful, RUN A GOOD SHOP

[@elGringo69]

says dont buy online, has a metric shite ton of amazon links in the description.....LOL

[@digginhistory750]

Most the shops I’ve been in are stuck up rich snobs. And if your not buying a 500$ rod they don’t want to talk to o you.

[@aaronkazi]

Those bastards

[@williampeters96]

If they sell bait they aren't a fly shop... Attitude like that makes me wanna smack you and then shop online.

[@HugeFlyFisherman]

Classy, Will. Real classy.

[@dallasonfire604]

He has a point though

[@dallasonfire604]

Sea Run in British Columbia is one of the best fly shops in Canada, and they sell bait to paying customers. You're over thinking it all. Its business, a customer is a customer. You actually seen like a loser tbh.

[@thomascurry886]

william peters do you know what fly fishing is? You don’t use live bait

[@440capnhook]

Well fly guys are the hipsters of the fishing world.

[@jonathanwalsh3771]

Took your advice and went to my local fly shop for the first time with a pack of beers. What a great way to make some new friends! Thanks for making awesome videos

[@nraised2]

My local shop has turned me off from fly fishing. The guys are very aloof.

[@TheBiggerDavo]

Ive definitely been to a few bait shops with super unhelpful and impersonal employees

[@69texaseyes]

Jackson hole area did the same for me. Lost interest in fishing on my vacation.

[@alanmiller4122]

Definitely happens

[@foragefarmer1300]

@@69texaseyes Know current but more former guides in the Jackson area. It is a meat grinder, high burn out rate. You are paying top dollar and the Jr. guides especially are seeing a fraction of that and then the shops make the Jr. guides work the shops a certain # of days and get paid even worse in a place with one of the highest costs of living in the country. They moved there in most cases because they love to fish and end up watching others fish and not wanting too fish when they have the opportunity.

[@saxon6749]

The shop in Arvada is why I'm such a huge fly fisherman now. The dudes there have been so helpful. I haven't picked up a baitcaster in 2 years.

[@mikekrol7485]

Thanks for making Monday suck a little less. Keep these vids coming, keep informing, and stay huge.

[@lostwagesoutdoors]

When are we gonna get an etiquette video on proper buddy heckling?! Otherwise another great video. Keep up the good work. Cheers.

[@edsantelli02]

Charlies flybox section taught me how to tie flies. This video is awesome, thanks dudes

[@mikejessmax]

How to behave so you get invited back??? It's a store, don't think you need an invite to give them business

[@HugeFlyFisherman]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

[@carlogert3714]

Ben, I wish I could like this more. Thank you again for another great video! I feel like somehow I owe you more than a 6 pack of Blue Ribbon goodness if i ever get to toss some flies out your way. Thank you for what you do for the sport! In a HUGE way!

[@HugeFlyFisherman]

Thanks!

[@BloodSweatnBass]

I became a fly fisherman by visiting a fly shop with someone else. However when I went back to that same shop the actual owner was in the store.I won't get into the extremely negative experience I had, but it did not stop me. I found another store which is super far from my house but well worth the trip. Those guys @ Bayou City Anglers in Houston Texas are HUGE! I won't shop anywhere else just because of how these guys take care of me as an novice fly angler but more importantly as an individual.

[@Bradimoose]

Thanks for the video. I went to my local fly shop on Saturday, took their free class on learning to fly fish. I bought some wading boots and flies. They told me what fly to use and a river I can drive to an hour away and got my first trout on a fly without a guide. buying stuff and asking questions works!

[@melodywilliams3586]

As a fly shop manager myself, I fully agree with all these points. Except, I would add to please not assume you can only get your information from “the guys” or “the boys.”

[@stevencurran2869]

I know that’s right! My wife can stay right with me in numbers. We had to buy two 0-999 clickers to have on our vests as neither one of us can keep the count straight anymore. Love fishing with the girls as well as the guys.

[@northernflyguy247]

It’s tuff living in Saskatchewan, cuz around where I live there are no local fly shops. Gotta order basically everything for fly fishing :(

[@brandonkalpin6220]

Thanks Ben! IMHO I would suggest changing etiquette to advice. Using etiquette is going to be a bit elitist and make non-fly fisher folk be intimidated, and or discourage them from visiting a shop. The whole point of your video is to get people in there, not make them stay away in spite. Stay HUGE my friend!

[@davidclendening9732]

Etiquette is also manners Since when is manners elitist?

[@Caintainable]

Great video man

[@wingman8447]

I stop in at fly shops whenever I’m in a new area or haven’t been in the area in a while. I’m friendly, polite and low key. Fly fishing for 50 years. If the shop is also friendly I might take part in a conversation. Then pick up some tippet or nippers or such. Maybe some tying materials. If the shop is not friendly, snooty, condescending etc, I’ll poke around then leave quietly. No problem. Maybe they had a bad day. I don’t look for tips or hot spots or hot flies. Not that I know it all, I like finding my own way. It takes time to find those spots and flies on my own. That’s what I’ve always have done. It’s a big part of what fly fishing is for me. I find it more fulfilling and gratifying. But that’s just me. It’s too bad that we even have to discuss etiquette in any situation, from either perspective. Also, Charlie Craven is a legend.

[@dizturbd007]

Just subscribed! Great video. You’re right that we have to support the local guys because they help support our access to fish!! Pay a little extra for the knowledge you gain.

[@FreeRange1234]

I like to buy local and support the fly shop, but if any call bow fishermen creeps, or any other sportsman a creep because of their chosen way, I would never support them again. In fact you can count on me not supporting your channel, I'd rather be a creep than a fly fishing snob. FY

[@troutfitter547]

Well, Bye!

[@kylewatson5951]

Awwww man, don't go. Wait, yes, do. Do go. See ya

[@kennydunlevy9644]

I’m just getting started in this sport. Your videos are very funny with good information. Looking forward to the next one.

[@truethought2581]

Best interaction. Austin Anglers many years back. I walked in, explained I had zero experience and wanted to learn. I was instantly told to leave they had no time for beginners..... Austin Anglers, Austin Texas. I've moved to Oregon 20 yrs ago. Taught myself, biggest is on a chartreuse crazy charlie. 39# 14oz. Chinook, with zero help from fkn pretentious fly shops. Fk fly shops go ask locals..... Best advice for fly shops? Fk em. Loads cheaper tie flying gear on line. Fk fly shops.

[@donotrobme9295]

I’ve bought all my rods and Reels, waders, guided tours for clients, family and myself, boots, name brand gear and clothing all From fly shops. I will Continue to do so but I do always feel like when I walk in to a new shop like a have to throw around $100 bills just for a hello and for a little bit of help. I do end up buying quite a bit and it’s beyond obvious how differently I’m treated once I’ve spent big bucks. I understand to a point, but I get treated better waking in the door at all types of other stores , even convenience stores, or small grocery stores where they run hoping to win your business. I understand the difference, but still frustrating to feel that I have to spend big bucks to earn them as an interested salesman. It feels to me sometimes like they really skeptical I will ask for info, or for one fly, or just look around trying to take products and then go buy online. At some point I do feel like ( if my perception is correct) the Internet / Amazon has taken what it will and will Continue to get more. But I’m in your store, here’s your chance to prevent me ( or another customer) from not Wanting to support the fly shop. I feel Like in almost every fly shop I walk into they r judging me if they think I’ll spend money or Milk them for info. I often feel I shouldn’t go into a fly shop until i for sure have an expensive need, say that right away, let them know I’m buying it, and then when I ask about other products or flies or rivers or shuttles etc etc I’m now in the club. I personally strongly over support the fly shops that are nice and welcoming to all. I feel like for those shop owners that r willing to go all in on really treating each person like they r their big spender even if they r not, they will be the money making survivor of fly shops for that area. Anyhow, I feel better now ha ha

[@jeremyowen1]

We have one tackle shop in the city and it's the most claustrophobic place I've ever had the displeasure of being in. Staff is great, incredibly knowledgeable and they have products I can't find elsewhere. But my anxiety immediately starts rising the moment I walk in due to the sheer amount of stuff in such a small enclosed space. I worked in retail for years before going back to school so it's actually painful to see how unshoppable it is.

[@TroutSoup1]

Agreed with this video on every level. Support your local fly shop, and buy local. Many times they’ll have the best materials and specific flies for the local waters you’re not going to get online, especially if there’s a local variation fly that works for specific hatches. Get in there and drop $20-30 for the advise you’ll get

[@ias400]

All good advice. Only thing I'd add is, you don't have to settle for the first shop you walk into. If there are multiple shops in a reasonable distance, try them out you may find that you like better, or get better info, or are just more comfortable in one rather than another. I live in the Pacific NW and there are 4 shops within 20 or so miles of me. One I won't go into, and I've found that the other 3 are great and I get better info from each during particular times of the years, so I spend time in each seasonally. Oh, and don't even think about moving here, it rains ALL the time.

[@BBZ0925cz]

I try to support my local fly shop.. but .. they are just A$$holes.. rather buy my flies online than deal with their attitudes (similar to dealing with a bike shop employee)

[@Ukuleleman64]

Been fishing with a spinner and bait caster my entire life but my problem is no fly shops anywhere neer me here in North Dakota. My local shop had one fly combo rig to sell and that was it, so I will be forced to get my gear in line.

[@joshuapatterson4787]

As long as it’s not winter park flyfishers. Lmao. I met you when I worked at clear creek outdoors in Idaho springs

[@benjaminhelm2248]

You say if you go to a big retailer a lot of times they don’t know what their doing but I’m a beginner fly Tier and I’ve talked to many people about it including a guy at bass that you could tell knew what he was doing he didn’t try to sell me the most expensive stuff but he told me the basics of what I needed

[@mattlittle3330]

Charlie is the best! Went way out of my way to go to his shop in Arvada. His son was super helpful and Charlie took the time to sign a book and take a pic with me. Cannot wait to go back.

[@jasonbeary5771]

Try to determine which shops are life projects by trust fund babies. THose can certainly be good. I knew of one (I suspected) that was. But IF you have the chance, go and buy from the place where the person's wife works at the sandwich shop across the parking lot. (lookin' at you Fins-N-Feathers', 4-corners! Those breakfast burritos fed me until dinner time! )

[@MrKanderson223]

Was hoping you would mention beer goes a long way, works in a lotta specialty places. Drinks and treats work.

[@JohnDoe-zh8tj]

There’s a cool shop in Oregon called ‘Fin and Fire’ it’s great, flys, expertise, and beer

[@mr.robinson1982]

I always take 2 bottles of homemade wine to my fly shop(California Merlot 14.7% ABV)

[@fishingblackwatersound]

Man my local fly shop was closing down last time I visited it …

[@marcod591]

Right on! Shoutout to Jimmy’s All-Season Angler in Idaho Falls, where the guy spent like 45 minutes helping me pick the right hackle when I said I was interested in tying some Green Drakes. That’s what you don’t get online

[@lonewizzard8456]

Agreed. Jimmy's is a fantastic shop and Jimmy himself is a class act.

[@weirdowilla1027]

Embrace your inferiority, wait I wasn’t feeling inferior, don’t worry you will in most o

[@markk364]

Great tips -- but anyone who has purchased anything in a fly shop knows that the mark-ups are, at times, extreme. I've heard they markup their flies almost 300%. And dont even get me started on their gear prices --- I get it, they are retailers and experts...and do, indeed, deserve a return for their assistance,so yes, buy something every time you go in. One other common annoyance at our local expert shops (Sacramento, CA) are the trip sale, one shop, in particular, often posts inaccurate fish reports in order to sell guide trips (talk about unethical) -- and they dont pay a lot of mind to those who dont buy their trips --- you know who you are (ehem: highway 50)!

[@pchinnIII]

Fly Fishing, the most Elitist activity known to man. Etiquette, more rules. Fishing, just getting out in nature away from the rules and attitude with a bonus of catching fish and having fun. This is the guy who ruins that for everyone.

[@HugeFlyFisherman]

Thanks for watching!

[@michaelharris1455]

Lol, sounds like fly shop folks are a lot like Harley mechanics.

[@evanassenmacher1016]

best spots around Boulder area?

[@pml22]

Maybe you can make a trout STREAM etiquette video, to keep millennials from cutting in 25' upstream from you. Hey, you don't own the river, right?

[@HugeFlyFisherman]

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[@jonathancurley1351]

That shop is awesome! I'm a straight fly shop hippie.... I jump around so much good fly shops always point me in the right direction. I have literaly stopped back and bought rods I didnt need twice then sold them on ebay for a loss. I was touched they pointed me in the right direction after I watched them send multiple customers to tourist locations.....

[@glenndotter5065]

Expert = an Ex is a hasbeen. A Spurt is a drip under pressure

[@paulkruse9004]

Spot on Huge!👍 Excellent points and for GAWD sakes people please shop small and your local fly shop!❤

[@matthewallred72]

Walla Walla doesnt even have a fly shop so now I have to drive an hour away just to practice your ninja fly shop techniques.

[@FlyTyer1948]

Good advice. If you find a great fly shop, it’s a true gem & be sure to support. Sadly, my favorite shop, Stoddards in downtown Boston, closed quite a while ago. It was the oldest fly shop in the U.S. & the staff was very knowledgeable. Once they got to know you, you could try out a new rod for a weekend. Try that in a big box store. I bought almost all of my equipment & fly tying material there. Really miss the place!

[@gregoryprodanas7295]

stoddards was the best. if you were lucky you would run into gartside there too

[@matthewbutcher9246]

Ahhh, the international currency of 🍻

[@dennisdrewry5625]

Great info and a lot of laughs

[@simonthuku9508]

Really nice video, very funny and good to know - reminds of my friend who is such a pain in the ass and brakes all the rules! haha

[@stevemorton9585]

….Like picking up that beer and feeling it?

[@peterpauwels4610]

So much fun! Love these vids. My favorite shop is Beartooth Fly Shop in the middle of nowhere. Not another business within 15 miles. Can't believe the selection and the help is amazing.

[@cachi-7878]

Dan Delekta...

[@Cimmeron]

Agree. Visited from Australia This place on the Madison was amazing.

[@lonewizzard8456]

Beartooth is great. They're super helpful there, great prices and laid back.

[@blakehunter7443]

I wish I was cool and in with the shop guys.

[@bobohunter1776]

Glad to see Charlie included. Haven't been in the new shop yet.

[@scottlayne7558]

Old School is a classic

[@dwightstewart7181]

Really? There's actually fly shop etiquette? Well, since I don't like to walk on eggshells (afraid of violating some hidden etiquette rule), I won't be rushing out to a fly shop anytime soon. Hell, I don't drink, so I'm damn sure not going to bring them alcohol.

[@HugeFlyFisherman]

Thanks for your comment! Normally I would say thanks for watching, but I don’t think you watched the video because: 1. It’s not hidden etiquette, I clearly stated it. 2. I offered several alternatives to alcohol. Are you sure your last name isn’t Schrute?

[@dwightstewart7181]

@@HugeFlyFisherman .. First, in mentioning "hidden etiquette rule," I said a fly shop, not your fly shop. Surely you don't think your etiquette rules, if such a thing exists, are the norm for all fly shops nationwide. Second, I'm not bringing anything, alcohol or otherwise. It's a business, not a lonely hearts club or charity. I'm hoping this is all a bad joke, but not so sure. Goodbye.

[@HugeFlyFisherman]

Say hi to Mose for me!

[@gregsage1605]

I love my shop! I get great advice, rods and reels that match my skill set perfectly, and they never try to up sell me. They match my wants to needs perfectly and they're just damn good guys. I'd much rather cover their overhead than send my money to someone that doesn't even know my name.

[@tronner_the_awesome]

Seriously. Plus I feel the local shops are into local waters and local conservation. They're invested in the area and so I'm invested in them

[@blowinshtup6553]

I like going into fly shops to be ignored while they do nothing or chat up their brah’s yet expected to pay premium prices or get a “yeah, we can order that for you.” It’s amazing these places are still in business in the online era when most offer very little. I think your viewpoint is abit idealistic to the actual reality.

[@HugeFlyFisherman]

Pfft. Party pooper.

[@lunkerjunkie]

That's why you don't catch fish

[@blowinshtup6553]

Aaron Eggleston , I don’t need a cashier with an attitude to catch fish.

[@firstlightfishingco]

Very well done video!

[@kennethstarr5545]

I thought those were just basic courtesy anyway.

[@fish-n-riffs]

The new normal…”climb out from under the rock” and FALL IN LINE! Now we tell people how to behave.

[@alleghenyadventures8561]

I enjoyed working at a fly shop. It was my first job. Getting people set up and then having them come back and tell me about their success was the best satisfaction of the job.... and yes, bribing absolutely gets you better Intel 😂😂😂😂. I still remember "apple dumpling lady." And "guy with all the BBQ."

[@FlyLibrary]

Huge fan from South Korea- thanks for the tips

[@timbillings6884]

Do they all have Pabst! You frequent? I have never payed for a fly in my lifetime Flyfishing over 55 years!!! Never bought a fly.. I build all my own Rods! Have built many for other people too!😁 I do buy tying materials though!!!👍👍 Never heard of someone being kicked out of a fly shop. Saw someone busted shop lifting at Dan Baylees! 😂 Had friends at Yellowstone fly shop in West Yellowstone! My friends Dave and Dianne live in West!!! Nice fly shop at Silver Creek!!! Nice one near slide inn. Boy I could mention lots of the shops! ✌️👍👍 Oh I forgot of course Orvis in manchester VT. I grew up Flyfishing the Battenkill!!! Was awesome fishing way back then... 👋

[@raven_of_zoso455]

My local flyshop has a terrible selection, and 95% of the products are either low-end or no-end quality, the dude who runs it is so fucking chatty that I make an alarm with my ringtone when I go in there so I have an excuse to leave when he starts telling the same old story of a trout he caught in 1993. I mean, I know him well, and I often run into him on the river, but dude needs to shut up. Still, I do support him when I can, and he doesn't mind if I go into the backroom to look through old boxes of flytying materials he has taken off the shelf. And if you bring beer into any shop in Norway, they'll call the cops and you end up in the drunk-tank even though you are completely sober and you explain that the beers were a gift to the workers. On the other hand, if you are a employee at a shop and a customer brings you a beer and you take it, you get fired and a rumor will start to spread that you get drunk while working, so you'll never get a job ever again, and before you know it, you'll be sleeping under a bridge, turning tricks for heroine. Norwegian government is fucked beyond repair!

[@bChipps]

Work with what you got if all you have is a cabelas or bass pro go there. I work at one and I always say you can start here but when you’re ready to set it up go to the local fly shops.If you live in the middle of no where go online but first choice should always be local fly shops they are much more knowledgeable and they will have a ton of better gear.

[@ericsutherland3056]

I'm so glad I watched this video. I can't wait to visit Charlie's Flybox. Looks like it's about 5 to 10 miles away.

[@rudyruiz9521]

Disagree on the pro deal. They should be encouraging you to still go try rods. The more people out there with fly rods the better. Even if I don't buy one from the shop, being able to say, "there is a great shop over there...go buy from them" helps everyone. Especially, if I know the guy and have recieived good service. If I'm able to say go check out John Smith at x fly shop.

[@paulnoble684]

Our fly shop/hangout in London, Ontario is John"s Fly Materials. John's about 84 but still wade fishes and fins a tube . He opens up at weird hours so check. Don't try to contact the shop - there's no phone or internet. Good knowledge shared here. He'll always listen to your stories. Oh, and he probably has what you need too.

[@chrisheimerl5862]

Will stop by Charlie's!

[@jimmybrock8325]

That’s not true in Az the shop does make money on licensing. That is why I buy my hunt/fish license from the azgfd so they make all the money so that there is more money allocated to the parks. I do hear your point about shopping locally, couldn’t agree more, unless a shop is marking up products to high, and usually those guys are the douche bag shops and I tend to go there just to try or learn about a product I can by online for a smoking deal.

[@guyjeans8]

Killer Music- great videos- and right on the money! Cheers brother! Guy @Kern River Fly Shop

[@fdtank81]

Oh no I totally went in there and asked what they were biting on But I bought a rod the week before but it was different guys.. anyway will remember not to do that again

[@justinteel7172]

Planing a trip to go to Colorado next year to see my wife’s family. And I will need help with trout fly fishing since I’m south East Texas and there are none.

[@danielburgess7785]

Shop local, shop small. Most of my buys are woollies of various colors sizes so I'm always looking to upgrade my fishing IQ. The limestone creeks here, central Pennsylvania, are pounded so hard it's good to branch out into smallies or whatevers. Throwing woolly buggers I've caught trout, small mouth, large mouth, walleye, blue cats, crappie, warmouth, and all sorts of pan fish. I just want a quiet place with very few people, and clean water.

[@hunters1372]

The only “fly shop” within 30 miles of my home is great outdoors provision company which has some quality flies but we all know that’s the only aspect of a fly shop they have going for them

[@drewc8065]

Fully agree. Don’t be a spaz, listen to advice and keep your fly fishing secrets to yourself. You have nothing to prove to other customers in the shop. Just act normal. There’s a lot to soak in. Relax.

[@naklabtimothy2462]

Fish poles ???? I use a fishing rod. A fishing pole has pictures of Minnie Mouse and Daisy Duck on it! I have been building rods for over 35 years. When someone wants to build a "pole" I have them leave the class.

[@HugeFlyFisherman]

So what kinds of fish poles do you make?

[@naklabtimothy2462]

@@HugeFlyFisherman I coduct "Rod" building classes. Tuna, boat, casting, spinning, fly, center pin, switch or spey rods. We do NOT make "poles". Graphite, glass and Tonkin cane are our materials.

[@HugeFlyFisherman]

Oh cool. How much do your poles cost? I have $35.

[@alanmiller4122]

Been in three fly shops in Colo, all were cool, one in particular fixed a reel for us no charge, so I bought a couple pairs of sunglasses and like 10 flies, third shop was run by a much older guy that I kinda felt sorry for at first, didnt seem like he did a lot of business and while it was a good experience he did push pretty hard to guide us, eventually insulting us slightly as being beginners (which we are) and offering to hook us up with a morning of brook trout fishing for $150 each, I mightve taken him up on it but we'd already spent 3 days catching browns by ourselves in the Ark and the Rio Grande with not too much trouble.

[@garybauer124]

Stopped at a fly shop in Boulder, CO. Was going to fishing some streams. Told them that. They recommended some patterns, bought a handful of flys. Went out next day and had an epic time fly fishing. Went back the next time I was there same thing, spent more money too. Good time.

[@nickhumphreys3160]

What about ordering most your stuff online from a fly shop that is like 500 miles away? I get a lot of stuff from red's

[@ferrari_guy3570]

Local shops are a fountain of Knowledge bro! And whoever would drop a gnarly deuce in a fly shop is a sick fuck!

[@milehigh_onthefly]

Why is the American consumer so afraid to be in control these days?? I don't know of any retailer that would ban its customers.

[@lunkerjunkie]

If you try to control a fly shop guy or gal that is trying to help you they will stop. If you really push their buttons they will ban you, and make you think it was you're idea not to come back. Just follow huge's advice and enjoy the shop.

[@milehigh_onthefly]

​@@lunkerjunkie Sounds like great service and you SHOULD go elsewhere. In a free market this is the power we have if we choose to wield it There are lots of options out there. A fly shop employee should always offer their best advice as it is their brand they are tarnishing if they do not.

[@lunkerjunkie]

@@milehigh_onthefly I agree, if fly shop guy doesn't treat his clientele well he won't have a client base. But he doesn't need to let people walk all over him either, he is a human being after all.

[@kuttycrew]

Pretentious elitist asshole, I’ve been doing this too long to have some cultist “not one of us” types trying to re-educate us on customer service.

[@MatanuskaHIGH]

I’m like Ron Swanson. “Can I help you?” No, I know more than you. 😂.

[@HugeFlyFisherman]

Nice

[@fermiticus4034]

Swanson is a LEGEND!!! "Fish are for catch and release only...they're basically a vegetable". (not that I agree with that!)

[@andrewknight8270]

I guess it’s a bad thing to ask what hatches are going on? So u can buy flies accordingly?

[@davelambardo6464]

So I don't fly fish a ton,nor am I any good at it. But I do persue steelhead and salmon in the pacfic northwest as a religion! I recently vacationed in Cody Wyoming. Stopped at a small fly shop in town. Great experience and helpful fun conversation! Also sticker prices in these shops can shock! At least for me. But after some talking he started making sale offers.