Flying a 65 YEAR OLD Piper Apache Twin

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@DaveBartholomew-uf6sm 2 ай бұрын

So many planes, so little time. What a great time running around flying all these great airplanes and meeting these cool pilots. Great video Emma. Keep up the good work.

@wds6900 2 ай бұрын

I once heard someone describe the Apache as the 3500 lb. sweet potato Beautiful '59 and restored very nice. Neighborhood guy had one on his property. First plane I ever flew in and no mistaking that sound.

@crazy10seven 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for this, as a new Apache owner myself this was cool to watch

@TIO540S1 2 ай бұрын

That's the model in which I got my multi rating back in 1987. After getting it, really just for fun, I didn't fly a twin again until 2020 when I acquired my current airplane. Of course, I still have a soft spot in my heart for the Apache.

@ellischernoff8603 Ай бұрын

I got my training for my MEL rating in an early 1954 PA-23-150. Taught me everything I needed for my future career. Engine out flight in the Apache was more difficult than widebody jetliners!

@patrickcooper8980 2 ай бұрын

Phillippe is an awesome pilot... could listen to him tell stories all day.

@johnnyhag675 2 ай бұрын

I have been really enjoying the channel lately. Great job!

@georgiathai4961 Ай бұрын

I taught flying in an Apache when I was in college. N4145P. I loved the old airplane, and it was a great multi trainer. Much better than the Seneca that replaced it. Really enjoyed the video. Thanks!

@boomersudden6257 2 ай бұрын

Great job Emma.

@apfelsnutz 2 ай бұрын

I have an Apache, this is the best overal video on flying and the aircraft in general that is out there...KUDOS !

@coldisle 2 ай бұрын

Art deco is right. What a beautiful airplane. Thanks!

@jtkent28 2 ай бұрын

Taught multi in a Piper Apache w/ Geronimo conversion for years. One time we couldn’t get an engine started after an in flight shut down for training so had to bring it in on one engine. We landed safely. We had the Apache for a while and later got a beautiful Aztec which was even more fun to fly. Loved that plane but the Apache is still great. Side note: I would STRONGLY recommend flying with closed toe shoe wear. If you have to get out of that aircraft in a hurry such as a crash or off landing, especially if there is damage such as twisted metal with sharp edges or even fire you are really going to wish you had shoes on. Not sure why you wouldn’t be wearing shoes..

@ThePudgie123 2 ай бұрын

Agree...personally, I always wear leather shoes/boots when I fly. Nylon/synthetic gyms melt pretty fast dipped in flaming fuel.

@Lurch-Bot Ай бұрын

@@ThePudgie123 same. No synthetics should be worn when flying a plane, ideally.

@richardgreen7811 16 күн бұрын

I flew a Geronimo as a guest in Aberdeen, MS. Quite an impressive plane with nice short field capability.

@paultaylor9939 Ай бұрын

Just great lovely plane the twin Cessnas and you young lady are doing a great job thanks for sharing all the best cheers

@brjimbo1 2 ай бұрын

I recall in 1966 working as a lineboy at Cannon Aviation in Tulsa at Riverside Airport, one of these was on my refuling line each Saturday. One Saturday the owner offered to take me up for multi engine time. At this point I hadn't soloed yet so I was ripe for any training freebies. I showed the owner/pilot how to use an old Jeppsen Flight computer with fuel calculations, cross wind, etc. as a trade off. So...as soon as we were at assigned altitude, I was told to reset the autopilot. As I engaged the switch the ship shuddered a bit and then did a violent wing over. We were vectored back to the pattern, landing easily & walking away. I later learned this was a cruel trick this guy played on green horns as myself. I later named him Sky King...

@mikaellachiriboga2223 2 ай бұрын

I love watching these types of videos, a long time ago I flew a Piper Aztec D and I remembered that when I saw this video... Greetings from Argentina!!!

@jhaedtler 2 ай бұрын

The old rule of thumb is the airframe is just the shoe box the radios come in! Thanks for the videos!

@jimmierturner3597 2 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@nohandle5544 Ай бұрын

My first twin..we wrung it out completely..great memories..

@brucefelger4015 2 ай бұрын

My very first airplane flight was in an Apache. amazing plane

@jeromes5141 2 ай бұрын

I'm scheduled to do my multi rating in this same model in 3 days time. This video came right in time as I'm able to learn an extra thing or two.

@mvsc-k5e 20 күн бұрын

question for you: what materials did you use to learn the systems? POH is a bit sparse. thanks!

@ManNomad 2 ай бұрын

Got my Multi Commercial in one in the 90's. Wonderful flying little plane.

@michaelsteiger8509 2 ай бұрын

Great video. I fly a Geronimo and Twin Comanche. Love the Apache. The paint scheme is nothing like an original apache paint scheme, it is a variation . If you put a Piper apache paint scheme on it, you will be Oshkosh winner.

@FlyingNDriving 2 ай бұрын

Smart man to be at Blue line + a few, speed will decay in an engine failure and then you're at blue line and not below blue line by the time you get the dead engine secure.

@musoseven8218 2 ай бұрын

Great video one and all👍✌️😊👍💜 Thats such a nice aeroplane - the pilot was a gent too - useful, good rate of climb, relatively economical (surprised me) too. A rarity here in Blighty. Love the paint job, my dad had similar in green and yellow on his Luscombe Silvaire 8F, very pretty too, restored by renowned, GB, de Havilland restorer Cliff Lovell. My dad has a PPL, singles, but he did train on and fly his bosses Twin Comanche. His boss would do market research using his aircraft, also visit his various businesses. So he paid for 80-90% of my dad's flight training and also the boss wanted his wife to fly, she was a delicate type, a ballerina, hated learning and flying so she and my dad concocted a story about her having air sickeness to let her off of the hook👍🤭🤭 Dad went on the get his PPL, flew gliders etc etc. Prior to that opportunity with his boss? He even hated being in a lift (Elevator in the USA)😀😀😉

@jhaedtler 2 ай бұрын

I love the single engine explanation, It is much like a DC-3

@margaritabuddy 2 ай бұрын

Excellent video, thanks for taking over the channel and doing such a good job!!

@larryjohnson7591 2 ай бұрын

Light twin engines are fun to ride in. Dad didn't let me fly it much because he was just trying to get hours for multi-engine rating. Loved every minute with him. I miss him now.

@brianlott7571 2 ай бұрын

Nothing like flying with dad, is there?! Miss mine too.

@philippesibille4915 2 ай бұрын

I agree miss mine a lot

@ellischernoff8603 Ай бұрын

Looks like lots of great upgrades on 09P.

@dandunlap8638 2 ай бұрын

Love the paint scheme

@GregWhitfield1 2 ай бұрын

Really enjoying the channel refresh. Looking forward to some more biplanes when you get a chance.

@danwilson8422 2 ай бұрын

Good work on the channel Emma. One suggestion is when you have a 3rd person, have them hold the camera while you have a conversation with the owner. It's more interesting to see both of you on camera!

@stpello Ай бұрын

The Apache is such a good airplane, very economical to operate, my first twin was a 1072 Aztec , i really enjoyed flying it until I bought a Baron

@lloydrobert6182 Ай бұрын

31:23 Perfect landing!

@craigeslim7212 2 ай бұрын

You NEED to track down the owner of one of the last airworthy Beachcraft starships! The owner of one in Texas is usually pretty open about interviews and stuff like that! Get in contact with him! Amazing and super rare!

@Greg-pt7ur 2 ай бұрын

Dakota is gone?? An explanation would seem a good idea.

@_FNQ 2 ай бұрын

Very cool aircraft, very cool flight👌

@danmccarthy2213 Ай бұрын

Awesome video! I want one :)

@Flyboy365 2 ай бұрын

Finally a good video of the Apache! Congratulations

@Lurch-Bot Ай бұрын

First time I flew, I was 4, sitting on a stack of phone books in a C152. When I was 11, I got to fly a C-47 for awhile, the only twin I've ever flown. When I started flight training in earnest, I had complex aerobatic and glider training from age 13. I got to fly an old jet trainer some. I've had some helicopter training. I briefly flew a 747 one time by accident when the fuel team neglected to fuel it for a high speed taxi test. I became an A&P at 23 and I'm glad I only ever flew for fun, as opposed to pursuing an ATP or becoming a commercial helicopter pilot. I might get my LSA instructor cert at some point in the near future. MOSAIC is gonna be interesting and there will be an increase in demand for LSA instructors. Also thinking about getting my IA and focusing on primarily being an inspector. I'm comfortable with doing an annual on my ELSA but I need to up my game if I want to make a career of it. These days, I am happy to fly my S-12. Most smiles per dollar of any plane I've flown. It handles well, is strong enough to do basic aerobatics and can land on a football field. Costs about $20 per hour to operate. I love that I can use a yaw string for turn coordination. Best flight instrument ever invented. There is nothing more sensitive for yaw reference and it will even give early warning when entering a stall. It also lets you keep your head up when maneuvering close to the ground. IDK if it will work but you should try it on your plane since you don't have a prop right in front of you. You have a beautiful Apache there. Glad to see you understand the importance of doing major overhaul on these old birds. I like that panel too.

@RaymondLeonard-z8m 2 ай бұрын

This was a lot of fun.

@danmccarthy2213 Ай бұрын

I'm glad I'm not the only one that spent more on the instrument panel than I paid for the plane!

@Lurch-Bot Ай бұрын

I bought a cherry, low time RANS S-12 XL almost a decade ago for $14k. I installed a BRS and an avionics package. GPS, ADS-B in/out and AHRS. Cost about $3k and is a system that is approved for installation in a standard category experimental that is certified for IFR flight. It has saved my life twice. Once, when flying in the mountains, I was descending into a valley. A military helicopter on a training exercise happened to be flying through that same valley. I never saw them and, if not for the ADS-B in, I never would have known I was on a collision course with that helicopter. I also experienced inadvertent flight into IMC one time while flying NORDO in class G airspace. I never would have been able to avoid spatial disorientation without the AHRS and I never would have found my way home without the GPS. I had to make up my own RNAV approach on the fly because the private field I was flying from didn't have one. I didn't want to try and deal with landing at a busy municipal airport in weather without a radio, nor did I want to be in the weather any longer than I had to. There wasn't much precipitation there and if I flew into a shower, that could be very bad in a plane with an exposed engine intake and nothing but sailcloth covering the wings. My point is that having the right avionics is priceless. People told me I was wasting my money putting such systems in my plane.

@iansampson2492 2 ай бұрын

I never insure my planes...it saves so much...Never had an issue 5500 hours later..I highly recommend

@Conn653 2 ай бұрын

I got my multi rating(1972) in a '56 PA-23-150 Apache. A fantastic training aircraft 🙂 Treat it right and it's a forgivable old cow on landings 🙂

@ellischernoff8603 Ай бұрын

You should clarify that VMC relates to power. Your redline VMC is left engine failed and max power on right engine. Since normally aspirated engines loose power at increasing altitude, actual VMC goes down as altitude goes up. This creates the situation where stall may occur before loss of directional control.

@pirateatfourty 2 ай бұрын

nice plane i love my 1985 P210 i fly it at least 2 times a week,just had a new engine installed this month, 6 months ago all new aviadyine / garmin glass panel. i cant fly in a non pressurized plane anymore. but like you i havebeen flying since i was a lil kid but i now have a lil over 17000 hours been flying since i was 8 first lesson for my 8th birthday. but i am also 71 now which sucks, i did buy my 210 when it was new. i also cant get in a low wing plane anylonger.

@bjs2022 2 ай бұрын

In the 1960s I got my twin rating in maybe the 150HP version and at gross weight on a hot day with the critical engine out it seemed like you were flying an extended range glider. With just me and my instructor and about half fuel, power off "greased" landings were easy/fun.

@CRFHONDARIDER100 2 ай бұрын

You can tell this guy loves his old bird

@arthouston7361 2 ай бұрын

Never flew one. None on the field, but I am told the single engine decent rate is very quick.

@leeoldershaw956 2 ай бұрын

Got my multi in a 150 Apache. Flew a 160 Twin Commanche a lot. After retracting the gear my hands went back to the props. Noseyaw direction indicated engine to feather immediately. No identify, verify, feather possible at that point. Flew CV 440, L 188. L1011, DC 9S 25 Years for Eastern.

@philippesibille4915 2 ай бұрын

Did you know my Father Philippe "Phil" Sibille or my mother Anna Jackson Sibille? Dad flew the same aircraft you listed and Mom flew Convairs Electra's

@philippesibille4915 2 ай бұрын

Mr older can you give me a contact email? I would really like to talk with you about Flying for Eastern.

@leeoldershaw956 2 ай бұрын

Didn't know them. I'm not sure how to send you my email outside of KZbin comments@@philippesibille4915

@georgiathai4961 Ай бұрын

How about Hap Slayden or Tom Hopp?

@leeoldershaw956 Ай бұрын

@georgiathai4961 I think Tom Hopp was in training department at one time

@thomasaltruda 2 ай бұрын

I used to own N2236P! What a cool plane. Yes, it would hold altitude and even eek out a climb on single engine.

@cbondcbond 2 ай бұрын

What a great video! You are doing a great job. When you were doing the initial interview with Philippe I could not hear you clearly.

@Plysomack 2 ай бұрын

I've been looking forward to seeing this since it was accidentally released (and subsequently taken down) a few days ago. Was it a mistake or a marketing strategy?

@FlyingDoodles 2 ай бұрын

That was me- Emma- messing with some settings! Great idea though 🤔 Early release always on Patreon 😊

@johnbolton9483 Ай бұрын

Got my ATP in one !

@a1nelson Ай бұрын

Easily my favorite light aircraft to fly, not to mention just admire at rest. Not a rocket ship but it doesn’t need to be.

@N98858 2 ай бұрын

Nice Ride... Thanks ';-)

@RWBHere 2 ай бұрын

Thanks.

@marka8947 2 ай бұрын

I received my multi in this pile in the early 70's. The second engine will only fly you to the scene of the accident.

@georgelevin6134 2 ай бұрын

Wow a takeoff in a twin especially a underpowered twin and hands in the lap. You lose a engine in that plane with three aboard and you don’t feather the dead engine immediately you’re going down, you’re still going to be very busy even if you get it feathered in time.

@mikercflyer7383 Ай бұрын

Funny the little things I notice, the yoke shaft diameter is about a nice 1 1/4” and chrome plated, some look tiny and and flimsy. Safe travels

@beeraddlee1 2 ай бұрын

What happened to Dakota?

@thelastboomer9088 2 ай бұрын

Don’t really follow this channel, who is Dakota? I watch his Sailing Doodles channel and he is always with Amanda there.

@thomasaltruda 2 ай бұрын

You run Mogas on those fuel bladders? I thought that isn’t good on the rubber bladders?

@wfrederick2501 2 ай бұрын

I'm one of the partners in this airplane. We use 92 octane ethanol-free mogas. It's the ethanol in most automotive gas that can damage fuel bladders and engines. When this airplane was built, there was no ethanol in gasoline.

@flynlr 2 ай бұрын

i should track the one I used to fly in the 70s ,see if still active

@arivicente4912 Ай бұрын

👏👏👏👏👏🇧🇷

@DimasFajar-ns4vb 2 ай бұрын

wow real airplane

@FAXAROUNDTHECLOCK 2 ай бұрын

The Bobster should explain what happened to Dakota? Peoples are Wondering?

@ellischernoff8603 Ай бұрын

I would recommend that she sit closer. In order to achieve full rudder at VMC, she will need to sit closer.

@jfc213 2 ай бұрын

emmas great

@hud86 Ай бұрын

I miss this era of aviation. Planes sold for the price of cars!

@edwardlong189 2 ай бұрын

I got my twin rating on an Apache in 1968. If I remember correctly the engines were 150 HP, which trained me for later life flying an Apache. Great episode. Want to see more please.

@johnqdoe 2 ай бұрын

You couldn’t pay me to fly in that death trap.

@akerletgaming 2 ай бұрын

how is a well maintained twin a death trap?

@edmoore3910 2 ай бұрын

Woke democrat!!

@MetalTeamster 2 ай бұрын

Former neighbor/ friend of twenty years ago got one of these …a 1957 model, same color , and I used to fly with him a bit in it. Kind of a funky aircraft , and I think even taking altitude density into consideration, this aircraft with the standard 0-320s cannot climb at all on loss of engine right after rotation, or not much best case…. With just two people and half fuel it took off pretty well.

@DanFrederiksen 2 ай бұрын

8 year restauration. Could have built an airplane factory with that effort

@edmoore3910 2 ай бұрын

Nobody cares for a smart ass here.

@JohnnieV 2 ай бұрын

I’d love to hear the difference between stewardess and flight attendant

@philippesibille4915 2 ай бұрын

Stewardess are professionals that had to go through much more training flight attendants. Stewardess had to go through medical training weight in and maintain a weight

@JohnnieV 2 ай бұрын

@@philippesibille4915 they still have to do medical training including CPR & they have to be able to sit in a tiny jump seat.