Should YOU Become An Auto Technician in 2022 (Brutal & Honest Truth) I Don’t Know How To Vlog 003

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[@xxmobstrxx8535]

Simple answer is no. There’s a reason there’s a tech shortage and it’s because dealers and other employers don’t pay enough and don’t appreciate the stress and work we go through.

[@juniorlewalski4393]

That's across the board my man. I cut trees out of power lines and we are underpaid with all the qualifications we have and what we have to do.

[@CG-zj2zh]

@@juniorlewalski4393 thanks for your work

[@juniorlewalski4393]

@@CG-zj2zh you're welcome, I love it! We all have a part to play I just don't like how offset pay is. Greed is real with larger companies.

[@ferndog1461]

Mechanics have no influence in manufacturers injecting more & more planned obsolescence & cheaper materials in late model cars. For example, GM designed their water pumps & serpentine belts inside the engine. Literally, the Transverse, Acadia, Enclave & Outlook have water pump swap costing x 2.5 times more than the same repair in an average car. The public is ignorant, they get angry with mechanic shops, and buy another car. The sly manufacturers rejoice as their scheme works, again.

[@Officer239]

You absolutely right, when I went into the industry I really thought I could bust my ass & make good money but that wasn’t the case.

[@Dan-oo1tm]

I've been doing this for 35 years. When I get this same question from young people I tell them absolutely run away. This industry eats it's young. My son went to HVAC school and in 5 years in the field is making damn close to what I make....and no flat rate. No brainer.

[@wild1246]

How much do you make

[@Dan-oo1tm]

@@wild1246 $43 an hour

[@soluspot3493]

@@Dan-oo1tm where do u work

[@thedanieldrew6695]

I’m doing automotive , only a few months in and work at a local non cooperate dealership . I’m I doing good ?

[@MH-zg5yw]

My buddy went to a community college and got a certificate in Dietary Management. Within 5 years of getting the certificate he was making $104k a year. He only has a high school diploma, no degree and only a certificate. But it is a stressful job. He is always dealing with the health dept and state inspectors. He had initially considered auto tech too

[@craigjorgensen4637]

It’s not a job for older workers. It’s rare to see a tech older than maybe 50. It’s hard on the body and hard to keep up. There is also a HUGE investment in tools that never ends. A plumber or electrician buys tools once. An auto tech can have 100,000 invested in tools!

[@JR-km9zg]

Great point

[@Comm0ut]

Almost no one should BE a tech at 50. They should be running the farm not pulling the plow.

[@wb5mgr]

Only going to get worse as EVs and hybrids continue to take on more of a techs role. More and more speciality tools will be required.

[@bettyg7710]

I guess I am rare, I am 64 and still working on the line.

[@Haveyoueverbeenswallowed]

Especially if you’re specializing in one type of brand or if you’re specializing in foreign cars. I’ve spent $1000 on tools specific to Audi. I hate that so much, but it’s been rewarding and it’s paid for itself now.

[@PHELCAN]

The short answer: no. The long answer: no

[@duanedragon2]

I have been a professional auto mechanic since 1997. The more complicated cars get the more I get paid. Lots of people think they can do this job. Very few can. You have no idea the hardships I went through to gain enough knowledge to make myself indispensable. The path is narrow and the road is long. The nuts and bolts part is easy. The knowing and showing part is priceless.

[@garagekeys]

@@duanedragon2 I have been in the health field for 10 years, I am not indispensable, there are other people with much more knowledge than me, and I bet I'm still getting paid more than double your salary. My point is is that you've invested so much into your career and do not get paid nearly what you should be getting. You're exposed to all sorts of hazards and chemical causing agents, and back breaking work.

[@Old_Sailor85]

@@garagekeys Using a phrase like "chemical causing agents" and making $250k a year? No wonder the healthcare system is in such a shambles.

[@actually5004]

@@garagekeys Look out for the pendulum swinging the other way, and for all the Solzhenitsyn I've read I'd bet on your end being swift for sure.

[@GarysWorld17]

Great advice. I've been a diesel mechanic for 16 years now and coming out of an automotive school and getting a job with caterpillar it was amazing pay. I moved up to a foreman after 5 years and after 9 years I moved and got a job as a fleet mechanic for cemex. I learned how crazy the dealer life can be as a mechanic and realized how much it sucked lol. one thing I wish I would have known from the beginning was to not get in to a dealer and get a fleet position. I now own my own mobile mechanic buisiness because I got tired of the drama and getting paid a dime when my boss makes a dollar

[@YakAttack64]

What exactly is a mobile mechanic business?

[@StrongerThanBigfoot]

This is the only reason I want to work at a dealership for a few years then move on to my own business. Do you think the battery movement will replace mechanics in 10-20 years

[@sanitary103]

@@YakAttack64 they come to your house for car repairs, all within reason of course.

[@YakAttack64]

@@sanitary103 huh that’s pretty great. Never heard of it before. Thx

[@sanitary103]

@@YakAttack64 i used it once. The dude forgot to retighten some nuts when changing a wheel bearing. Ass wipe could have killed me. Seems like a good business model if you find the right guy.

[@bucklemon9945]

As a Ford technician for 32 years and fully certified I concur with your statement about being very efficient and extremely healthy for all of your life in order to make it as a auto tech. Unfortunately I was about a 62% to 69% efficiency tech. I Was the go to guy for sync and electronic repairs And my speed never earned me more than about $37k a year until my health, of my body being broke down when they came to me and let me go at 52 years old. So unless you just really want to be a auto tech I say run away from it and do anything that you’ll be able to do when you get old and are not able to be efficient and super speed at all times. The sad part is I may have the skill set but don’t want to touch anything mechanically related anymore.

[@esthernassuna1584]

Okay!!!So it's that tiresome!!😮 Anyways l appreciate for the response 🎉🎉🎉 Patience Uganda ❤❤❤

[@thedanieldrew6695]

What if you want to open your own shop and have employees later in life after being a mechanic for a while ?

[@muminun-]

Write a reference Book

[@dangerboy1111]

diesel truckn s best

[@GoonyMclinux]

Ford never pays crap, I made 80k bullcrapping at a smaller shop, usual job offers are 30-40 flag and I suck, you got jipped.

[@bimmerguy5785]

🇨🇦 I'm a collision technician and make a six figure income also got to work on the Ford gt program. The only way to survive in the trade is to have no emotions at work, don't bring your stress to work instead use work to relieve stress 🇨🇦

[@AngelRodriguez-tt9vk]

How long did it take you to be good or let’s say ; fairly decent in autobody industry?

[@bimmerguy5785]

@@AngelRodriguez-tt9vk It took me 10 years. But methods, materials and procedures kept evolving what I was told to do 25 years ago is alot different from today. The equipment tools and methods are very easy to learn now. Treat everyone's vehicle with respect and remember someone's family is going to be in that vehicle so never cut corners and you will succeed in the industry. 🇨🇦🍻

[@consolegamerz3856]

@@bimmerguy5785 hey bro What is your hourly pay in Canada And what is hourly pay for freshers

[@bimmerguy5785]

@@consolegamerz3856 Right now in Toronto Canada 28 bucks a hour flat rate.

[@consolegamerz3856]

@@bimmerguy5785 Thanks for your time brother

[@francis55]

The good and smart technicians get penalized during diagnosis or if you beat the flat rate hours by an excessive amount. God forbid you figure out and fix a problem in 15 min and charge an hour. The service writer will ask how you justify that and how you as the tech are ripping off the customer, also your time will be either taken away or reduced to 0.5 hrs . Don't forget that hour you charge out, you only get $20 while the customer pays over 150+ so who's ripping who off?

[@connerkrynen2859]

I’d say it’s time to pack my tools don’t fuck with me I drive my truck to work for a reason son! Also if they’re not willing to pay me for the time it took me to gain the knowledge to fix a 1.5 hour problem in 15min I’m at the wrong place they should be praising you for being able to crank out hours like that especially when you’re doing it right.

[@HondacivictypeR777]

Just left working for a stealership such a breath of fresh air, crazy how a master tech makes less than a parts manager. 🤣

[@bradmccranie3967]

I left the field 14 years ago to work on airplanes, it worked out great for me. I worked at dealerships and independent shops with no benefits, warranty work sucked, long hours, and at dealership certain tech got fed the best jobs.

[@Tlopez0]

I’m thinking about that at the moment , but airplanes seems much harder but cool at the same time

[@LawrenceTimme]

Planes and helicopters are miles better. 👍

[@ashantedula5696]

​@tony_lopez7835 it's not that bad. There's great training and really good troubleshooting manuals. And top pay is around high 60 to 70 dollars per hour

[@ashantedula5696]

​@@LawrenceTimmehelicopters don't pay that good.

[@cpgravenor]

I was a jet Tech in the RAF, today I am a Police Mechanic, as it pays more than an Aviation Tech made when I swapped, I will retire as Police Mechanic, they do take care of you, I watched many of my Aviation mechanics lose jobs, bounce from one job to another, today, I would recommend being a plumber, carpenter, Electician, or HAVAC as top lines or work, and Automotive as last resort. I know city workers who hang doors and unplug toilets, making $88K a year in California, before overtime, with Benefits, see my point.

[@bubba.watercraftj7269]

Great video. You appear very wise at a young age. Save as much as you can for retirement, it comes sooner than you think. I have been a medium/heavy truck mechanic for the better part of my 45 years in the trade. I still love what I do except for the severe toll on my body. Still in decent health due to realizing the need for healthy eating and exercise. I left the dealership flat rate system over 37 years ago. I would NEVER go back to flat rate especially at an older age. How many old guys do you see working flat rate? I mostly work on highly specialized up-fitted truck chassis and equipment as well as the truck itself. So I do get those “nasty” diagnosis jobs etc. SCR DEF DPF etc. And Up-Fitted systems that are all J1939 CAN buss communication. So you are correct. Any new tech needs to have an aptitude for electronics diagnostics. Need to have good diagnostic skills. The R&R is usually the easiest part of most repairs. I am not bashing flat rate. It is just not for everyone. A good trade for the right individual. Hopefully the public and business owners will realize the skills and value of today’s mechanic/technicians.

[@FlyingWrenches13]

Agree completely!

[@paulkelsey2458]

So I get you're saying avoid flat rate dealership jobs, but do you still recommend being a diesel/truck mechanic?

[@bubba.watercraftj7269]

@@paulkelsey2458 I have been a truck/truck equipment mechanic most my life. I love what I do. It has taken a toll on my body though. Hand,shoulder,knee problems,etc Since I am in my 60’s and will be retiring soon, I may start teaching. Not sure yet. As far as “flat rate” it just wasn’t a good fit for me. Hopefully auto/truck mechanics will get better pay with these newer EV’s and such. Time will tell.

[@gerardkavanagh144]

An honest; straight from the heart assessment of the vehicle trade. Well done; I believe that this video should be shown at high schools to allow students to decide on a clear career path. Keep going forward.

[@connerkrynen2859]

@Jerry Boden key word is dealerships. I work for a family owned company. I can’t see anybody making more than 100k+/year at a restaurant without being the manager. With the shortage of techs I can go to quite a few local shops with my experience and make 100k+/year easily at 24 years old. Actually getting sent to training out of state for a new certification in a few months. Anybody can flip a burger. I take pride in my work and what I do. So no not dead end at all.

[@connerkrynen2859]

@Jerry Boden More worried about what woman will think.. it’s quite a feeling when you put in work and it pays off. Honestly a feeling that a woman couldn’t even give you. You have to get it yourself. Like the world has been lifted off your shoulders. It’s only dead end if you give up don’t forget that and keep plugging away at whatever you do👍🏻

[@connerkrynen2859]

@Jerry Boden you’re not wrong but also not everyone has the same experiences you had. You’re looking at it from only your view. For someone whose dream is to work on cars it doesn’t get much better than this..

[@kidyugi1]

After 5 years I say no the only thing worth is stealing the knowledge. I even tell the new guys the pay is gonna be ass for awhile plus flat rate is unreliable as shit just have a back up career especially in this market now. You can't even raise a family or live on your own being a mechanic. It's either be a master technician to see real money or dip. There's no in between. I just recommend to get the training/experience then dip out the field. There's more jobs that pay way better with less effort.

[@dannywalters1548]

FLAT RATE SHOULD BE ABOLISHED. I hope you are right that pay is going up. I would never work flat rate. Mainly the rust in my area. Currently with shipping difficulty. You could be waiting for parts. Warranty work pays garbage.

[@robbiesantos7677]

Quick answer is no. All the other trades pay more.

[@billhowe4863]

Tree work definitely doesn't. The arborist industry is shit too.

[@johnrpizzaguy]

I’ve been a master tech for 39 years,I got my education by working at dealerships (BMW,Chrysler, Toyota and Nissan) but after realizing that dealerships are very good at two things Ripping of the customers and Ripping off the employees, so when I was approached by a commercial bakery with 22 delivery vans I jumped at the chance and now after 7 years I can retire but this is a great job and the pay is great because shops here on the coast of California charge $185 per hour and the owner knows that so he pays me really well. Plus I get to take home baked goods. What you said about becoming a Technician is true, I don’t recommend this career I got lucky but my situation is very rare and for that I’m very thankful.

[@supergppl]

This experience is really similar to how I feel in my career as an IT Technician. Was always skilled at it, relatives bringing me their computers to fix since I was a kid. Didn't feel like I had a choice on what to do. It's ruined my hobby. I started getting into car stuff because it's similar to fidgeting with computers to be similarly satisfying, but different enough from my actual car.

[@ericverster4069]

I'm currently looking into IT. I know some people making good money in cloud architect, CS, the million other specialities there are in computer science. Have just started studying to get my comptia certs

[@amaturetechnician8405]

Being almost 3 years into this since I started tech school, I find myself at a crossroads in regards if I should continue. I do happen to take my time and make sure things get done right and properly which is good on my conscience but hurts me time wise. I don't know whether its part of me gaining experience or that I'm genuinely slow with things. I am fairly competent with mechanical things and enthusiastic about electronic systems and tech in general if you give enough time to interact and understand the system I will eventually get it. Fortunately for me I find my self at a small hourly shop with an owner who is patient with me and let's me try my hand out with different repairs but I know I would suffer on flat rate being where am at in this career. I guess my saving grace is that I show up on time, willing to learn, and has no problem making the investment in buying my own tools. With that being said pay for said tools and student loans are like extra taxes out of my entry-level pay. And the work itself is quite stressful especially when you hit a brick wall with difficult repairs or a bolt snaps on you. I don't regret getting into this industry since this was one of the few things I could make a case for after dropping out of college but I am evaluating my options. If you any better career options try those first before looking into this.

[@patrogers8912]

I’m in my late fifty’s and the few conclusions I have is wanting to be my own boss or having people I work for that treat me well and respectfully. That is a hard thing to find I’m sure these days; with that said we have to work to eat and where’s your passion or where are you happiest? Network for shops or owners that treat you the best gain more experience and slowly build your name maybe work for yourself. We all have to work at it Stay positive and God will guide you.

[@amaturetechnician8405]

@@patrogers8912 Thank you.

[@Flock13]

@@patrogers8912 🤝

[@daffyd69]

@Amature Technician Hi after 9 months of your comment I wanted to ask you if things are good, and would you recommend going for an automotive technician carrier as I'm currently thinking of dropping out of college, I study literature and English which I know it's useless and won't get me any coins in my pocket specially where I live ( it's a third world country)

[@mrglobster]

@@daffyd69 always take your time and do important jobs right, however when you are on a time crunch there are certain methods known as the flat rate way, you gotta cut corners in certain places which is why dealers have such bad reps, dont treat the techs good, dont get good results

[@edwardmackey747]

Great video, Mayson. I appreciate your honesty and candor. I have a nephew that is graduating high school in 5 months and is considering becoming a technician/mechanic and I just sent him your video. You have a great head on your shoulders and a great personality as well, which is becoming more and more rare these days. I hope your current employer realizes how fortunate they are to have you. Thank you, and God Bless!

[@NonTypicalRacing]

If he hasn't been doing it already out of passion and gaining experience for years already...probably ain't gonna work out. Its not best as a "new found fascination". The "good" techs were "wrench kids".

[@rickyticky6915]

I’ve been a technician almost 35 years, work from the beginning till now in the dealership. I love working on cars and love my coworkers but do something else just not an auto technician. Why? Techs are under payed, under appreciated. Management will want more money even though techs don’t get a portion of ANY parts plus only a fraction of how much customers pay. Service writers will over promise customers (time) and blame techs when work gets behind schedule. Customers don’t respect you, I mean, think of it this way, would you go to your doctor without wiping your ass? Would you go to the dentist without brushing your teeth? Yet people bring their dirty ass cars and when you move the junk inside the vehicle, they accused you of stealing. People will complain that they have to wait for a long time to get their car fix yet they wont complain about having to wait for their food due to staff shortage. I should have followed my friends and became a mailman ugh. No I’m not a grease monkey 😂 I’ve been a master technician as long as I’ve been a dealer technician yet it’s not rewarding because since I’m “qualified” to do warranty / recall work, most of my pay comes from those yet the younger techs that have no certification gets the easy work and they don’t want to get certified (I don’t blame them). Go to any shop and you’ll notice that most of the work horse are the older techs yet management don’t want to pay these techs because “they are too heavy” in pays scale yet only a fraction of the drive right goes to the techs and shop gets to keep all the parts profit. This industry had been in trouble and will continue to sink because the younger most younger techs are different (too long to explain what I mean). I was in a major accident and was in the hospital for a week, called my boss to let them know that I won’t be able to work for at least a month while I recover…instead of making sure I’m ok, they asked for a DRs note! I mean, I’m the shop foreman for God sake and I’m at work 10-12 hours a day, 5-6 days a week and this is how technicians are treated. I know so many Master Techs that have left because of all the politics and pay has not kept up with cost of living. I’m almost at the end of my career and there’s no way I could retire if my wife didn’t have a great career that helped us found our 4021 and Roth IRA (yeah, I’m not a dumb ass; like many technicians, most are highly educated and have great critical thinking skills). My advice to ANYONE that wants to be a technician…get into a career that pays good and appreciate you and you can work on your own car as a hobby.

[@everferrufino9438]

I'm pretty young myself I just turned 24 recently, got a auto tech degree over 4 years ago and been in the industry for the past 6 years. Its been a while since I left my Technician job at my old shop because like you said about the work, pay, and time is horrible. I may not be experienced like the older guys, but I can get my work done for what I'm capable of. So currently I changed careers but I still do my own work and other peoples that know of me on the side. It feels so much better not being 100% dedicated to a single place repair shop.

[@tomtuma]

As a senior Master tech for Ford for 26 years . I have no dispute with anything you said . I would NEVER recommend this career path . Although in some cases even like mine , you can make money but boy you have to work like a dog for it .

[@kylezeoli8281]

i’m only 16 but i wanted to be an auto motive tech but after what u said i feel like it ain’t beneficial so what other jobs are there to work on cars because i don’t know a lot cuz i’m young

[@tubetime39]

@@kylezeoli8281 My 2 cents; find a decent job, learn auto tech, start buying tools, work on cars part time, at home or customers garage/home, small stuff to start with ( people are charged an arm and leg for small stuff too and you can make decent money part time and save them money as well, doing small repairs without having a shop) Then if you are liking working on cars still, look into opening your own small shop. Please take a business course on running your own shop, very important ! There are a few guys in my area with one man shops that do this and they seem happy and seem to be making a decent living. They are saving people money bc the management isn't keeping part of the repair bill for doing nothing. These guys are swamped,...."it'll be probably 3 weeks before I can fit you in" I wish I would've done this and still might at 65 yrs old.

[@UniqueHybrid_]

Thats what i pretty much felt from working just for about 1-2 weeks in a few shops. Im honestly still debating what career to go for tho. All the things you said were the things that i had in my mind while i was working there for a bit. Im young and the old guys at the mechanic shop don't want really want to teach. I understood that. So ye rn im really debating... ik ill figure something out. And yes while working there i had in my mind that maybe this mechanic route could be just a hobby. Im still debating tho. But ye thanks for commenting about this. Ik its been a year late but yes thank you. Blessings.

[@p3rformanc3fanatic60]

All that matters to me is my passion. F the pay. Its not gonna make you rich… but. What it can do is get you some capital built up so you can invest that into something that can and will make you rich. I am a full time diesel and auto tech and i love it i am happy and content but i started flipping houses 3 years ago and i could literally quit my job and just do that since i have profited over in the high 6 digits.

[@jme92685]

The reason they can’t find qualified mechanics is because they’re not willing to pay for them.

[@snipezz3516]

I was a tech for an independent shop for 4 years, one thing you forgot to mention is buying your own tools. Also how it effects your body breathing in all those chemicals every day such as the asbestos from brakes especially drum brakes, transmission fluid, brake fluid, ext... I got out due to burnout and a bad back and knees.

[@KM-bc3lm]

Own tools.. thats a given. wut?

[@zoticus1]

Brakes don't use asbestos anymore but the chemicals aren't good for you lol

[@apexmelons6037]

@@KM-bc3lm you’d be surprised new techs come into shop like woah, i gotta rack up a truck bill?

[@tricktop9064]

@@zoticus1 clutch plates still use asbestos

[@keeblertime1486]

4 years and you got burnt out and hurt your knees and back? Weak

[@ajwash3247]

Honestly everything depends on where you work at. If you find a good dealer who will do whatever it takes to train you and pay you until you’re a senior master tech and keep you forever then it’s worth it. But if you go to a place that doesn’t give you raises or teach you and just shoves you in a corner says good luck till you go broke and quit then yea it’s not worth it.

[@treeroofgrass]

I once worked at a dealership that tried to justify their low pay by saying they have tons of work which means tons of hours 😂😂😂

[@myprivatewar]

yeah the latter is the more likely scenario nowadays....

[@jackrabbit4383]

That's every dealer ,your a young person....wait till you no longer can keep up . 30years later..your not the shinning knife in the tool box..now 30 yrs later they say you're skills no longer fit into our plan going forward. I've experienced this from 1974 to 2001 .the only common denominator is I demand a raise health care...I got nothing. I got multiple employee of the month awards ....then management turned down access to repair hours then...it got worse...flat rate hours were cut..well if you're on flat rate..you know it's a popularity contest not how good you are

[@goodtimejohnny8972]

Depends on the person. I was at 3 different dealerships, left each one for higher pay at another. At the end of the day though none of them supply your tools. They all paid flat rate, so for a slower more meticulous guy like myself I seldom met the time allotment. So I had to get out and move to another field of employment. In other words for me personally it cost me more money to purchase the necessary tooling (that is forever changing) than I took home.

[@JJ-rs6qt]

I left auto repair for good after trying it out at 2 different indie shops. I was entry level, still learning but holy shit, was I slow. The only thing that saved me was the fact that I showed up to work on time. If I was asked to speed it up, I'd start making mistakes. After a while, I realized that this field just wasn't for me. I wouldn't hire myself as an entry level tech, anywhere.

[@damderrick]

As a tech for 20 years at various dealers for various manufactures. I'm sitting back laughing. The dealers and manufactures are getting what they deserve for crapping on the good techs for the last 2 decades. I'm at a Toyota dealer and we can't find not one potential new hire.

[@Nightfire3714]

I work in the Information Technology field on an hourly rate. i 100% agree with your blue collar statement. its crazy how a lot of people out there are getting their "literal arts" degrees for something that's absolutely useless and makes it harder for them to find jobs since they are usually fresh out of college with more than 100k in debt. i never went to college and i never saw a reason to. I have a lot of friends in the automotive industry and they are absolutely living comfortable and will agree with what you say but they haven't lost the enthusiasm and enjoyment. they actually have turbo LS swapped cars that they race on the drag strips. I myself is a bit of a car nut myself. I have seen people lose the enthusiasm in working on cars though.

[@danteterry1071]

@@geargrinder4784 doing what 😂 can’t be more than some filler job

[@christopherjacquez8605]

I'm going to uti soon for diesel mechanic lmao imma get the associates. Is it a waste of time ?

[@asianmanfromasia]

@@christopherjacquez8605I’m not in the auto industry, but I’m a maintenance tech with an associates in mechatronics. It’s worth it if you’re willing to put in the effort to MAKE that degree worth it. Experience and taking initiative is everything. If you’ve had prior experience working on vehicles (even just backyard work) or are mechanically inclined, then it’ll be a breeze for you. Just show you’re willing to put in the work. Good luck out there!

[@jojolopez177]

@@christopherjacquez8605my friend graduated from uti with 40k debt . Works at Honda making 20 an hour

[@dieglhix]

after 11 years of golden middle class life in IT, got laid off and can't get a job now because of being degree-less lol. Everyone has a degree now

[@JohnNeo19]

Getting paid 15 bucks on hour to do any amount of physical labor and buy your own tools is ridiculous. Jobs that require zero labor and zero expense on your part pay 15 minimum and a lot of times you can get 18-20 an hour for jobs that are significantly easier. That’s not even mentioning the increased cancer and health risk associated with exposure to automotive fluids and break clean.

[@andrewblack6473]

I work at a ford dealer in tuscaloosa. Flat rate is for the birds. All the new stuff and new parts are junk and can't even get new parts. Everything is on backorder. I'm sure yall are feeling it as well. Good video man I feel the same about the industry

[@FlyingWrenches13]

Thanks!

[@chrisleach7517]

Anyone that wants to do this for a living is a fool, im 32 and can barely able to walk now from the damage of doing this job - granted i mainly do hgvs but honestly, you want to make good money? Sell vehicles, get bonus pay, dont fix them and brake your body to pay the salesman's basic rate There's a reason why no youngesters are joining the trade In the uk they're desperate for hgv drivers, more people are getting into trucks and driving now - but there's less mechanics to fix them (you get paid more for driving them than fixing them) Yeah, i'm bias and bitter but trust me, there's more to life than destroying your body to fill the pockets of someone sat behind a desk nice and warm while you roll around in the snow on the side of a busy road risking your life

[@Stian2001]

Only problem I see is being very fast. When I work on my car as a hobby I take my time and do the job proporly and I only work on It when I feel like it. I cant imagine working at a car when sick, tired and at the same time being fast.

[@DonBMW]

So many things impacting the profession and it's unfortunate the dealers don't pass on more to the technicians. I use to be very happy paying $75/hr for labor at my local dealership. Once that rate hit $100/hr I decided to start doing my own work. Have since completed suspension, clutch, and rear main seal repairs. Haven't taken my car in to a mechanic in 10 years. Current rate is $175/hr. Best money move I ever made!

[@okhotrodder]

I've been a mechanic over 40yrs. I've seen it all. When you need to hire someone, it's hard to find anyone who is truly able to perform and know what they're doing. Certifications mean nothing to me. My phone rings off the hook, and people wear me out. Pay isn't that great. A job that pays "x" amount all day, every day, whether you work hard or not, will pay you more in the long run. I ask this. What mechanic do you know that lives in a nice house, has nice vehicles, and doesn't live payday to payday? When you're young, you work all the time, but you never get far ahead. I learned the hard way that being a mechanic wears your body out quicker than most jobs. When you hit 40, you feel like your 70 and just tired all the time. I use to love making 6 hrs pay in 4 hrs. I could do two 6 hr jobs a day working 7am-4pm. Now that I have my own shop and work for myself, I've slowed way down. It's not worth trying to have a stroke, heart attack, etc, just to make someone else happy when you can't make yourself happy. Work, work, work, and never get ahead. It really sucks working in 20 degree or 110 degree temps. Heck, this week so far has been wind chill 6-8 degrees. At some point, you just have to stop and think about yourself(your health)and your family. Sit down and relax. Do 8 hrs of work and go home. Not 12hrs of work in 8hrs, but just 8hrs, and finish up tomorrow. Sometimes, when my phone rings, I just let it go to voice-mail. I just get tired of the bs and low pay. Especially when it's cold out, I'm just not interested anymore. There may always be a demand for mechanics, but it turns out to be a hard life, and most won't realize it till it's too late. You'll look back one day and say a lot of people were right saying do something else. Just mechanic on the side, on your own terms. Grow a clientele like I have and just work on certain vehicles and deal with people that respect your knowledge and skill.

[@garypollack6948]

I enjoy working on my own stuff and do my best to keep up on things. I don't like working on peoples "crap". Love the channel

[@stephanarizona9094]

I spent 10-years at European Dealerships before leaving the industry. The only way being a Technician is worth it, is to work at places until you have enough experience and money to open your own shop, but then that opens a whole new set of problems because now you are a business owner who is no longer wrenching and now your managing and training Technicians. And then to constant investments in scan tools, online data, and other expenses. The "Golden Era" of mechanics ended when techs no longer made 50% of shop rate. I went back to college and got a Engineering and Management Degree and now work in Military Defense.

[@christianlorenz843]

There are so many better, less frustrating, more rewarding careers out there. Don't waste your time in this business.

[@davekohler5957]

Short answer, no. The pay sucks, benefits suck, you have to buy all your tools, and the work destroys your body, you have to be the favorite yech to make any money.

[@davidhall3747]

I'm tired of crawling around on that cold hard dirty floor, and getting banged -up. The mental fatigue and busting my knuckles is taking it's toll on my body. I'm just kidding. I'm a Fleet Mechanic of Asian, Domestic, and European Cars/ Trucks. I repair and maintain my fleet as a hobby.

[@jeremyanderson950]

Refrigeration industry with its electronics, and patient mind set would love a person with your skill set.

[@FlyingWrenches13]

I work on my own but other than that just have never been very interested in it.

[@Marcho978]

I do a bit of casual work as a bike mechanic when my other lines of income don’t pay well. The truth is this; most of what is being created nowadays. I.e. new bikes are designed to be difficult to service; so as a dealer and mechanic, you will be more inclined to tell the customer to buy a new bike when things do go wrong, because in order for you to fix the issue, it will have a serious knock on effect on other jobs for lack of time. I believe we are fighting planned obsolescence at its peak; the manufacturers intentionally do this to improve their balance sheets, but this makes everyone else’s lives difficult on the same token. Oh, and pay as well at times……

[@garagekeys]

The reason there is a mechanic shortage is because it's not a good job that pays what it should

[@COBRO98]

No one should touch an automobile for less than $24/hour starting out. Master techs should be making $50/hour. Abolish flat rate, enter in salary plus full benefits. The whole industry will turn around in a year.. People reading this will think that sounds crazy but they don't realize the amount of knowledge and years of experience it takes to truly understand modern vehicles. $50 is actually low-balling.

[@garagekeys]

@@COBRO98 auto tech is such a crappy field of work, no license needed to be a auto mechanic. HVAC, plumbing, electrician, sprinkler fitter, etc, a license is needed for jobs. Auto techs are dimes a dozen

[@COBRO98]

@@garagekeys The industry needs to be unionized. Did it for 23 years. The US is short 600,000 auto mechanics as of 2024. You need 80,000 per year to fill in those leaving/retiring. Dangerous work, exposure to cancer-related chemicals daily. Yet there are no benefits, no pension, no health insurance. You're technically contracted as an auto tech so you can be fired for anything at any time. On top of all of that you're paid half of what you should be and take the blame for anything that goes wrong in the eyes of a customer. Worst career field there is.

[@brandonnonya3680]

If you haven't figured it out yet. People think mechanics are sub human. They don't deserve hourly pay because the would milk the clock but yet the rest of the world would never milk the clock. Ps, I was a mechanic for 10 years, it was the stupidest choice I have ever made.

[@COBRO98]

Bingo. Been saying that word for word, for years.

[@narcissistinjurygiver2932]

28 years as a mercedes tech. 14 years as my own boss. if you are not able to work for yourself then do not get into the business. poor pay. hard work. your body gives out around 50 years of age.

[@ColonelH]

Retired tech here. No. I wouldn't do it again. It destroyed my body. Independents take advantage of techs with low wages and minimal at best benefits. Dealers create shortcutting thieves. There are of course exceptions.

[@chuckpeel8812]

You forgot to mention the dirt pay on warranty work , the best way to make a living as an auto technician I recommend working as a fleet technician, I worked for dealerships all through my twenties and started working at a maintenance fleet job I like it a lot more than dealerships

[@edwinlomonaco6754]

When i first started i honestly didnt think i had what it takes. The thing you point out about doing quickly but right at first i would forget things. I wasnt used to having to pay attention to so much detail. But over time you do get better at it. And now that I'm 15 years in I am Master Certified. L1 Certified. And average 60 hours a week. And bring home over 6 figures. But it has taken a lot of hard work to get there. And a lot of shops. My advice is to make yourself as good as a technician you can be. Because the only way you can leverage your pay and how you get treated is to be undeniably good at what you do. And so shops will either have to pony up or let you go to someone who will. All that does not take from another factor. And this is yhat you do need to be good at working with others. You can't be super amazing at working on cars. But be atotal asshole to work with. That will land you in some bad places. It really is combination of things. But first and foremost you gotta increase your skillset as high as possible.

[@terrydaubenspeck5976]

Everybody is always talking about the money. The money is not a factor for me. The impact it has on my life is a curse. You become a mechanic 24/7. People know you're the best around so they never leave you alone after work and weekends. It has cost me marriages and relationships because all my time is spent dealing with peoples problems. Momma don't let your babies grow up to be mechanics. Have them get jobs that nobody needs after hours.

[@mattmccain8492]

You are soo right about that. Everyone wanting you to work on their stuff on your off days. I've gotten to where my time and health is more important than money. I've turned down work cause it isn't worth the pain or time away from my family.

[@COBRO98]

You spend your off days trying to learn new things, buying or warrantying tools.. biggest mistake you'll make is letting your neighbors see you in your shop attire. "Oh you're a mechanic? Hey can you pad slap...." NO TAKE IT TO A SHOP YOU CHEAP ASS. It literally consumes your whole life in a way that most other careers don't.

[@leviticuscornwall8375]

I became a at home Technician after working at a shop for 7 years and it’s been treating well. Made good money doing engine swaps and regular maintenance jobs. I highly recommend it. Work while you get the experience until you get comfortable working on all cars/trucks

[@friendofvinnie]

Exactly what I was thinking 🤔

[@flash7144]

@@friendofvinniesame bro

[@flash7144]

Any advice for a young teen looking to get into the industry

[@leviticuscornwall8375]

@@flash7144 start at a tire shop I was a tire sorter as a teen then moved up as a quick lube technician then went to school (UTI Arizona)

[@SammyVeryRich]

@@flash7144 honestly man. I hate it, Im about to start trade school in the automotive industry and all I read online is negative about it. I don’t know what to do

[@NeilEnvySA]

Not worth it to become an Automotive Technician. I have been doing it since 1992. Customers do not Appreciate us. The Money is not worth it. Hard on Your Body. Maybe better to Work for Yourself. You can take Your own Time and won't have a Boss breathing down Your Neck. I'm 50 years old now. Work for myself now. It's better to do a Job right than Rush it and Screw it up. Your Name goes down the drain. If Your a Good Mechanic You will always have Work.

[@jeanenviedapprendre]

The whole thing with trades is that it's the most fundamental and essential work for society. People who can build or maintain buildings, transportation, utilities, appliances etc will always be needed. Doctors and lawyers and artists and retail all have their place in society, but they all need a building, utilities, and transportation.

[@chrism8180]

Well the pay should probably incentivize it because the lack of people who want to do it, especially for the work required/pay ratio, is going to outright collapse a lot of industries

[@oldtwinsna8347]

Yes but the trick is to find the right trade. Elevator technician, absolutely, you'll have home ownership and drive a fancy car. Auto mechanic you'll be renting a one room apartment in the ghetto and drive a junker, convincing yourself its "reliable" when you know the joke is on you that it's all you can afford.

[@oahts5906]

@@oldtwinsna8347its really that bad? i see job listings in my area auto mechanics for 200k/yr

[@COBRO98]

@@oldtwinsna8347 That is spot on accurate.

[@Dcalvert92]

Heavy equipment pays good hourly wages. However the work is physically much harder than automotive and it requires more tools. The pressure to fix a machine in the field can be immense because customers could have millions of dollars depending on that machine. I’ve been on road paving jobs with asphalt trucks lined up down the road and if I don’t get it going, $200,000 of asphalt will be wasted. I cleared 130k last year, great benefits

[@johnmartin2079]

I'm a 40yrs mechanic, no don't be a mechanic, be a straight plumber or electrician by 10yrs you'll own a van and everything in it to do your job, 20yr in you'll have a 2nd van with someone working for you. Be real it takes a million dollars to open a professional auto shop and have a helper and phone girl, a van and 10yrs collecting electrician or plumbing tools and your self sufficient in any state you want to go. The bitter story of a retired mechanic with 100,000$ in snap-on tools to sit outside and rust away, because I don't want to work on junk anymore.

[@chockeypucks24]

The answer is no, unless you view your job as a tech as a way to get content for KZbin. The tech job is a valuable source of content and information for KZbin, AND if you plan to make more money that way go for it. BUT I hope mason makes more money from KZbin than at the ford dealer, he deserves it, and hopefully he can go buy a single engine airplane soon. Also don’t be a tech at a ford/lincoln dealer if that’s your plan because mason is the KZbin guy for that. Pick another brand and go for it. Each brand needs a mason.

[@mikemckain6556]

The big problem with the flat rate pay is that is encourages techs to be dishonest and do unethical repairs. Been a tech since 1981

[@juansalas6259]

I'm an Ex-ASE Master automotive tech, I got out in 1994 after 10 years and went back to college for an Electronics degree and never looked back. The entire automotive market is a SCAM top to bottom.. If they would have standardize automotive parts like transmissions, engines, differentials, A/C compressors, computers, sensors ect.. cars would cost about 1/2 to 1/3 third of what they do now.. Why have so many different parts from Chevrolet, Ford, Dodge, Toyota, Nissan ect.. that do the same thing?? Now its a race to see who can put more useless electronic crap on a car to drive up the purchase price and maintenance costs. Personal computer motherboards, hard drives, RAM memory and other components were standardized in the 1990's and computers got a lot cheaper as they got a lot faster. Same could have been done with cars. Also standardized components would save parts houses like Auto Zone on having to pay taxes at the end of the year on all that inventory as they do now. Unsold inventory is considered an asset and one that you have to pay taxes for and that cost is also passed on to the consumer.

[@NFSINSANE]

I've been doing this since 2008 professionally, L1 ASE Master specialist, work on all makes and models and more often than not I hate this industry. We aren't valued properly. Most of the people that I know that are techs are smarter than anyone I've ever met.

[@caseycampagnari8854]

I got the same certs man and it is crazy how much we (have) to remember across so many makes and models, while doctors get to “practice “ on the same two makes and models that haven’t changed since forever. We possess several skills many lack interest in, but are still grossly underpaid. Don’t even mention the 80k-100k and up tool investment that is worth pennies on the dollar when we die. Who would want to beat their brain and knuckles up and smell funny at the end of the day in today’s employee pool?

[@James09291]

@@caseycampagnari8854how much did you spend on tools? I am just finishing up auto mechanic school

[@eurotrash55]

The pay is kept low because there's no actual license required in America to work on cars. ASE certs bring bragging rights I guess but it doesn't do much besides make your boss or company you represent look better to consumers. I'm a master tech. About 70% of all technicians in America as of the end of 2021, don't even have a single ASE cert bringing down employers initial offer. Thats based off the US labor statistics and numbers ASE released. I just had this discussion the other night with someone. If this industry actually required licensing and real training, like other trades, we would have some more leverage but right now, $1000 at harbor freight, and any swinging dick can buy a box and tools and work tomorrow.

[@mk718bx5]

I feel attacked. Swinging dicks have to eat too.

[@chrishooper3966]

This is way it's Time to reevaluate the pay scale for mechanics, FLAT RATE ONLY WORKS FOR THE BUSINESS NOT THE MECHANIC, we need better benefits and Holiday pay and Time off!!!!!!! Me personally I've been mechanic 27 years the reason this business is having a hard time finding mechanic we are tried of getting treated like shit!!!!!!!

[@samkidder13]

I love what I do. I love the money I make. But I’m about to walk away from it all because of the stress of customers alone. For the small shop guys that might deal with customers more directly, it can be exhausting. Mentally I’m burned out of the trade from dealing with the customers..

[@butchbrown1582]

Being an Auto Technician used to be a good trade to be into, not any longer. I have been a Tech for 37 years and the pay used to be 60/40 split and as of today it's about 80/20. They can't find techs because they are not willing to pay. Warranty work sucks it pays even less. Would i recommend going into this business now? No. Dealers have become greedy and it will come to a point not far off where the shortage might wake them up.

[@davinp]

Not all dealer service centers are great places. Dealers have a high overhead cost and so they are interested in making money. It also depends on the management of the dealer. Not all dealers may have qualified/certified technicians.

[@attiumeyami417]

some places don't even have technicians (rhymes with iffy cube)

[@dealershiptechtruth]

ABSOLUTEY NOT!!!!!!!! Until flat rate goes away and warranty times go away, nobody should be a dealership tech. I worked for Volvo for 17 years as a BEV/PHEV Expert technician. I made over $120k/year in Kentucky and North Carolina. I left last year and never been happier in my life. Ask yourself, why are so many master techs walking away? I can tell you but it would be too much to type. STAY AWAY FROM THIS CAREER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@imbrok3n882]

Mechanics don't make nearly enough for the schooling tools and experience they have.. everyone in the shop such as service advisors , sale even the part guys make more than the actually mechanics in some shops its quite ridiculous.

[@COBRO98]

I quit the industry after 23 years when I found out the brand new service writer, who was probably 23 years old, was making double my pay and getting full benefits. All he does is sit at a desk and talk to customers.

[@bambam23-vi1kl]

Techs receive 15-20% of the hourly charge while the owners collect 80% plus near 50% on parts. Techs pay 1,000's of dollars for tools and stress of the Job. Not worth it!

[@neverlift6380]

I always tell people looking to get into the business one thing. If you are trying to scratch the hobby itch; this is not the job for you. You will absolutely HATE vehicles after you get 10 yrs into it, if not sooner. The times you enjoyed doing it on the weekends will turn to hatred towards having to do so. But, if you enjoy it a dealership is a great place to start. You can gain knowledge, on the job training, getting dealer certifications, and etc. Then later switching to an independent may be the next option to go to. Some independent shops are great, not so rush rush and so pushy to over sell to customers but to rather do more of a quality job so the customer has a better experience. That’s where you can get back to possibly enjoying the job a little more as you may have prior. But at the same time that is when you can spread your wings and work on all makes and models vs only one single manufacturer.

[@mh-qq2hj]

I went from a dealership tech of 15 years to a fleet tech and I absolutely wouldn’t go back to a dealership. If you feel like you get screwed by the dealership when you buy a car or have work done on it, you should try being the poor guy getting paid peanuts for them to charge over $100 per hour for your work. Tools are very expensive and no matter where you are, you are going to have to buy a lot when you’re starting out. I guess if you’re good at working on stuff and that’s what you like, go for it. I always recommend people keep looking for something better and never settle. Also, the best money that I’ve found is hydraulics and equipment. People don’t want to spend money on their cars but that excavator is way too expensive to sit around broken. My .02

[@bradyhuff9679]

I’m a 19 year old technician at a ford dealer in Utah, I understand a lot you where saying now you say that That’s great advise I just am getting up on my guarantee I’m moving to flat rate and I’m excited because I’ll get a raise and start making more money. Good points with the type of people for this industry well done

[@DailyTvz]

Hey did you went to a trade school or college to become a technician at the dealer?

[@bradyhuff9679]

@@DailyTvz no sir, just started in quick lane and worked my way up

[@schwazelbacher]

@@bradyhuff9679 stay off that tool truck brother. Go to training classes every chance you get. On the company's dime. 17 yrs in the business and I make 6 figures. Be the go to guy for diagnosis and you can name your price.

[@toolman9081]

I'm an older guy, over 40, just started working at a Ford dealer nearby where I live. This place is a joke. Shop equipment is crap. Atmosphere is garbage. Workload is chaotic. Hopefully I can get out of here really soon.

[@mitchelbrinkman3084]

as a 22 year old whos been wrenching since 14 and started at a shop at 20 and have left by 22. wish i would have seen this sooner as i probrably never would have got into it. to much stress and money on tools for young guys anymore to even enjoy turning a wrench “imho”. Thanks for the honest advice to all the other fellow people looking in this industry.

[@yordansanchez1990]

Amigo you forgot The mental and physical damage This trade does to the body and mind

[@Melanie-de5iq]

Thank you so much man. I appreciate your advice, you really opened my eyes. I literally don’t know if I want to join anymore. I mean, I’m a very patient person, and I do learn fast, but I’m a little nervous now because I know I will probably make some mistakes here and there. I’ll reconsider.

[@thomasmk6]

mistakes with the shop I just left will come out of your own pockets when your already paid like shit, they still will take money out of pocket for lets say your doing an oil change and strip the drain plug your gonna owe a new oil pan, your putting tires back on and lets say you cross thread a lug you will then have to buy the customer a new hub! this is ridiculus and I think I am gonna keep my automotive as a hobby.

[@DKLGalactus5]

If you love racing the clock every minute of the day working Saturday possibly Sunday trying to make your forty hours working like a dog non stop then this is the job for you. If you’re not planning on having a good life and money in the bank then this is for you. Do you wonder why old timers say don’t bee a mechanic, because of all the effort and money spent you could have done way better in an other field.

[@chriswhoop]

real talk right here. glad i had chance to escape the industry after 5 years. its hard to get out once your in. i remember busting 100 hours every 2 weeks. but man it was stressful

[@alyx1715]

What are youn doing now?

[@Roboticpycotic]

100 is child's play

[@markfaustkingofheart]

Run run run as fast as you can, I started my life in this field in 1985 so been there done that. I am about 10 years away from retiring from this life as a dealership master technician. Now l really feel for the young people stating in this field, the amount of money you spend in tech school and then life long payments to the tool trucks is just crazy. I see so many come into a new job with 50k of loan debt and then in debt to buy tools to do the job its just sad. After many years of this work the beating your body takes is unreal. You want to know what your going to look and feel like in 40 years go look at the old goat in your shop. Yep when we’re young we are Superman but after 40 years of this your just a broke down hurt old man that can’t bend down to set a rack. Your back hurts your hands are swelled, knees are shot from standing on concrete, and at the end of the day no one at the dealer gives a ………. About you but only the dollars you put I the owners pocket. Now on the up side, do I make good money now ,yep. But it took a lot of training on my own to get to this point. One last thing, you do what’s best for you in the long run, when you leave or retire they will be looking someone to replace you before your gone.

[@texastootin1628]

Being a technician now isn’t worth it. The amount of things you need to have (certifications, tools, equipment, etc.) isn’t worth it to have because the pay is so low. Not to mention customers want you to fix 1000$ problems for 5$, service writers that sit and do nothing 90% of the day collecting twice your income to click some shit in the computer, the companies we work for refusing to back up their employees and throwing them under the bus every chance they get, the vehicles themselves are getting more and more complicated, the customers don’t care their shit is about to fall apart, they want the 20$ oil change and nothing else. People accusing you of trying to scam them every day, people causing problems because they have no idea what they’re talking about, etc etc etc. you’re just gonna have problems all day every day. You will literally never have a day where you aren’t dealing with some sort of issue. Wether that be with the job itself, the vehicles, the customers, your boss, etc. you’re just getting shit on the whole time. And I don’t know about others, but atleast my company keeps doing all this pay scale change nonsense that always ends up with the people doing the most work getting the least money

[@paulhitchcock8715]

Your smart beyond your years. Great video.

[@FlyingWrenches13]

Thank you!

[@kevinscott203]

Being honest everything he said is true I work for the city of Baltimore but I get paid hourly now being honest training it sucks they aren’t teaching people like they use to anymore and things are getting very complicated I’m probably soon going to get my cdl’s and leave the trade

[@casey896]

Terrible career. I Was a tech for a decade and my life greatly improved leaving that career behind. Between sub par pay, tool bills, and backbreaking and dirty work it’s not worth it. My efforts went to buying my boss a new super car every year, because you know having 3 dodge vipers, a hellcat, and a challenger isn’t enough. Greed is rampant in the industry and techs aren’t appreciated nor are they respected. You’re also very likely to get cancer, or a hernia working in this field. There are plenty of way more worthwhile careers out there. Automotive sucks. Plain and simple

[@robertovasquez6989]

How do you get cancer from automotive, I really want know?

[@mattmccain8492]

​@@robertovasquez6989from all the oil, gas, fluid , chemicals , fumes , etc. you will be exposed to. One reason I left.

[@jasonkoplen2554]

Talk to this guy in 20 yrs when his body is broken and his salary capped 10 yrs ago. If you’re going to pick a trade, pick a licensed one that’s where the money’s at. Every trade is a young man’s game, best bet is to do it while you’re young and study something in IT so you have something to fall back on. They call it a trade because you trade your body for a paycheck, you’re only going to get away with that for so long.

[@clementerivera3944]

Great info. Would like to add that it takes years to make the money needed to independently support your self, much longer to support a family in this field. Contrary to popular belief we don’t get paid the rate that is advertised. We have to work long hours to Turn the time,and it Never ends.. Also the more you know the harder you have to work. If you work at a dealership you know what I mean. With that said. It can be enjoyable and rewarding. I have never had a problem getting a job. And even though cars are way more complicated than when I started,training is easier than ever with the internet and people like Mason available at the touch of a button. I have helped train close to twenty (two currently) apprentices over the years including two young women. In my humble opinion women is what this dying trade needs. Keep up the great work and thank you, Mr. Mason

[@amaturetechnician8405]

That's what I'm going through trying to pay off debt from tech school

[@FlyingWrenches13]

Thank you! Cant agree more! The only way to make money in this industry is to be exceptionally good!

[@Adam-kk7nw]

@@FlyingWrenches13Ford tech from 2014 to 2019 , the pay is too low, switch to computer programming now making 80k year with 4 days on and 3 days off

[@PositiveVibeskingdom]

I did 1 year in auto technology an auto collision repair the collage payed for it all till this day I'll never forget how blessed I am I only did it tho because it's been my dream to become an auto mechanic 🙏🏻🧑🏻‍🔧

[@StrongerThanBigfoot]

@@PositiveVibeskingdom Are you still working as an auto tech right now and in your experience with you encourage someone to go that route

[@carlocalarco6718]

Working flat rate at a dealer used to be good but now a days, forget it… I would never advise anyone to get into this trade…. It is a losing proposition…. You will lose your underwear and your socks without taking your shoes off….

[@PinkFZeppelin]

Personally I think the lack of techs (not parts cannons) is partially due to the fact that their brains are better used and payed in other fields. For example I’m a former trades person turned programmer and I think people that can fix and troubleshoot things in the real world make the best programmers and get paid handsomely. Food for thought for those considering these paths.

[@pauljanssen7594]

The schools are spitting out people that want to be auto mechanics but they're partying with their buddies not studying hard as they should, I had one guy under me that he just was partying while he was in school did learn s***, unfortunately we had to let him go because he wasn't worth the paper of the diploma that he had; though he might have made a good shop clean up boy. But not a mechanic.

[@mikebotkin2008]

Aviation?! I did both. Went to an avn college and got my A&P, in late 80’s; no jobs so went to Cadillac dealership. Then after a year my Warrant Officer packet went through and I flew helos for Army then offshore oil wells. Then went to Lexus, then back to Army as a contractor and went to Army Reserves. Put in your Warrant Officer packet; they need aviators. Don’t listen to any recruiter that wants you to go crew chief or something else first. Find someone that knows how to recruit a 09W.

[@Mitchell79x]

Now you have to tear apart bumpers to replace a bulb only paying 0.6 to 0.9. Plus they don't take into consideration rusty ass bolts. Its not worth it!!!!!!!! Screw the Auto Service side of this business.

[@SconnerGuitar]

Thank you for your honesty. I ruined my hobby at a young age and became burned out "car audio". I grew up in a machine shop building high performance engines "pulling tractors" I still love working on cars and definitely don't want to ruin that for myself too....

[@axellove1266]

I love the ford tech driving the single cab chevy. Great trucks

[@omarvasquez6851]

😂

[@FlyingWrenches13]

I don’t wanna work on my own vehicle man. What can I say? Haha

[@axellove1266]

@@FlyingWrenches13 I got a 1st gen avalanche with 275k on it. On 35s only repairs I've done. Temp sensor alternator pick up tube o ring. Close to 50 lbs of oil pressure at idle the pre afm trucks are the ones to have

[@FlyingWrenches13]

99-06 GM were the best years ever built. I’ve owned a bunch of them. I probably will never drive anything else.

[@mattmccain8492]

​@@FlyingWrenches13that's weird to see being said..from an old timers point of view , the 73-86 square body models were the best they ever made.

[@Dragon_rls]

Auto mechanic is probably the absolute worst industry one can get into. The cost of school, and tools will be more than any house you’ll ever own ( as an auto mechanic), and your only guarantee is minimum wage, and a serious back issue by the time you turn 40. Don’t walk. RUN. Get yourself a real job, with a future to it.

[@codywinkle2303]

Flat rate in my personal opinion is only good at dealerships over independent shops. Mainly due to the same type of vehicles come in rather than picking a random vehicle from a hat. Obviously experience comes with it. If I knew what this industry is turning out to be due to the political side of it and they’re going towards all EV (so they think it’s possible), I would’ve went into coding or something like that. My personal recommendation which I highly recommend is to work for yourself. If you’re able to do that, I would do it. Since I started doing that, my physical labor hours have dropped from 240 hours/mo to 80 hours/mo. My pay has gone up 4 times.

[@StrongerThanBigfoot]

Do you think mechanics will be replaced by the battery movement in 10 to 20 years

[@zoticus1]

@@StrongerThanBigfoot never gonna happen

[@zoticus1]

Working for yourself is the best but the new challenge is customers and work environment

[@thedanieldrew6695]

What do you mean work for yourself , like open and have your own garage to work on cars or ?

[@codywinkle2303]

@@thedanieldrew6695 yes sir

[@glennsvoboda6602]

I've watched this industry get incredibly complicated and massively expensive to repair. Remember a doctor works on the same two models year after year. Us? Moving you box sucks. Its a good fill in job but not good for the future

[@jamesboone3678]

I'm currently in Barbering after almost 15 years of being a musician for orchestras. I lost my career during covid as well as many friends of mine. There is a huge shortage in barbers, and I'm going to tell you the money is great in barbering and believe me when I say this barbering is such a hard trade. It looks easy to cut hair, but it's a lot harder than I expected. The shortage is everywhere, especially in the trades. My mom waited 6 hours for a brake change on her Ford, and when she got her car back her brakes were so touchy if you even barley touched the brakes your car would slam to a stop. They had to redo the whole thing. You can tell they were overwhelmed with stressed. The guy was in his 40s and I thought he was going to cry when he had to redo the brake. It's unacceptable that techs are so underpaid. Especially when you get your master tech status. I'm very heart broken for the future of techs.

[@thomasmiguel5617]

Bro that’s what fresh brakes are supposed to do why would you have them re do it

[@jayart8751]

Barbering is booming crazy here in Texas, I'm trying to decide what to do and I'm thinking barbering or HVAC

[@jamesboone3678]

@jay art barbering is extremely difficult. I'm just aware of that. HVAC is too, but barbering is way harder than you think it is.

[@505fastlife6]

​@@thomasmiguel5617exactly I don't see how someone could screw up a brake job either.

[@hunterhill1013]

My wife is a barber. When she worked in Austin she was making like 80k but now that we moved out of town, all the hair salons want to pay her 15 dollars an hour...i recommend picking up the toolbag. I do supermarket refrigeration and Ive had nothing but blessings since I chose HVAC/R. I got my first house all on my own at 25 yo

[@mikenunn8696]

A normal shop in flordia as a c tech or b tech only pays around 1500 a month. Thats workijg on labor even if you pull over 35 to 4500 a week in labor. Now days a sandwitch artist at a subway pays almost 2k a month. Flat rate i agree u can make good money. But other jobs like creatikg 2d ac vent systems for a house can make u around 4500 a week.

[@tangerinesarebetterthanora7060]

This guy is a smart, articulate dude.

[@mikecarr1484]

Flat rate is what killed the mechanic. I would only do my own mobile mechanic service now I would never work for someone's shop. Thanks to flat rate. Flat rate mechanics cut corners. End of story. They get paid a set amount no matter how long it takes. That is insanity at best. My time is valuable and not to be wasted or unpaid time. Flat rate introduced around 2001. Shops have declined since. Imagine that. People are not happy working for free.

[@Old_Sailor85]

It's a good stepping stone to some of the skilled trades. We hired quite a few auto techs in the Gas & Oil industry. I always preferred good work to fast work (to a point).

[@oahts5906]

Could someone get into the field with no experience?

[@Old_Sailor85]

@@oahts5906 Gas & Oil or Auto Tech? If you are fortunate, there are apprenticeships in the skilled trades within Gas & Oil. There are also trade schools and college courses. Auto Tech, you pretty much have to be ASE Certified, so school.

[@matkletamoravia8075]

Left dealership work after 15 years for oil field fleet. Leaned the ropes on wireline & e-line trucks along with cranes and forklifts. Now work for crane rental company. All cranes in the fleet are Cummins industrial with the larger cranes with the 6.7. Most cranes rented for refinery maintenance with a few at SpaceX. Can actually talk with engineers when trying to diagnose an electrical issue. After 40 hours is OT. Mainly do electrical and lite engine repair. Mostly HPCR lift pump and DEF electronics. Might do in frame engine recon once every other year.

[@Old_Sailor85]

@@oahts5906 Which field? Auto or oil & gas? You can start as a roustabout (laborer) on an oil rig. They will work your a$$ off. Auto you probably have to start as a "tire buster" if you have no ASE certifications.

[@christianlorenz843]

Flat rate pay and book times are a complete scam. Carmmakers and the dealers steal from you. You'll just lose between that and taxes. Stay out of car repair!!! If you're intent on being a mechanic, learn the heavy side at a union shop. Always, always be prepared work work for yourself.

[@0202DBrown]

Great video man! When I was in high school and going through and internship at a chevy dealer the tech that was showing me the ropes told me to run like hell. I did not listen right away and wasted a year in an auto tech program before i realized it was not for me and went over to IT. Looking back im soo glad i made the change and didn’t get sucked into tool debt.

[@CHASA]

How did you get into IT?

[@Anonymous-um3im]

I’m currently doing the google it program. Idk what to do… keep going or try out auto body. Can you let me know how it’s going.

[@mikecarr1484]

Got out and will not go back . They can't pay for my experience. I never was conned into working flat rate. It scams customers. And short changes the mechanic. I made these shops pay me hourly 25 per hour no matter how much work I got. Even if all I did was stand and smoke cigs some days. They hated the fact I would not work for flat rate so they could not scam my time from me.

[@NishTubeGaming]

My dream job was to be a mechanic but then i realized Everything is becoming electric so i decided i cannot do that, am now focusing on becoming a barber!!

[@somedude4805]

I’ve spent 11 years at the top of the industry working for Mercedes Benz, Maserati and Ferrari. It’s not even worth being a tech at the top, because it’s all flat rate and no matter where you are, you are blue collar and therefore inferior to the customers, and they make sure to remind you. It’s simply not worth working 80 hours to get paid 65, while being belittled the entire time.