Ford & GM 10 Speed Overview | Best or Worse Transmission?

[@brendonobrien7576]

I’ve been the auto trans specialist at my ford and dodge dealer for 8 years, the 6f35, 10spds and the RFE transmissions are so much fun to build. Makes me feel good to see someone else my age doing what I do, keep playing in the red juice brother.

[@terroristcam]

Can you tell me the difference between 6r75 and the 6r80, I have a '08 expedition Ty

[@jeremytegland6663]

I think the anodizing is just a cheap way to get them over the warranty finish line.

[@sierracat]

100%!

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

6000 series aluminium is nice for trim pieces but you want your transmission drum made from 7075

[@sierracat]

@@jeremytegland6663 even with aircraft aluminum grade alloy, it's still aluminum in the end and the clutch pack teeth that mate/slide on it are steel.

[@ClockworksOfGL]

Depends. Anodizing can be crazy hard, around Rockwell 70C.

[@nismoklutchkicker]

Have a 19’ Ranger. I put the Ford Performace Calibration on it. Completely resolved most of the weird shifting issues and couldn’t be happier.

[@Horvath0819]

I bought a ‘21 F150 Lariat in August with 37k miles. I noticed the same thing, very clunky when coming up to a stop on downshifts. Took it to the Ford dealer I bought it from and ended up getting the transmission overhauled with the new updated CDF drum, clutches, seals, etc. I was told that per Ford they just clean the valve body and reinstall it. My service advisor told me to drive the truck for 1000 miles and if it’s still not shifting properly they will replace the valve body as well. One thing I wasn’t expecting was that when they were removing the cats to get the trans out, the bolt threads on the turbos stripped so I ended up with brand new turbos as well all covered under warranty lol. The truck definitely shifts much better now but it’s only been a few hundred miles so far

[@jiggidyjam]

3.5 or 2.7?

[@Horvath0819]

@ 3.5

[@No_nonsense302]

You have a good dealer!

[@Horvath0819]

@@No_nonsense302 I was very impressed with how they handled the whole thing. Best dealership I’ve ever dealt with for sure

[@hdvictoryford5329]

Ford did a recall on the 10-speed. With the new work done, mine shifts perfectly. All this complaining has no merit anymore. My son's company had a fleet of vans, around 50. All Chevies, all,all have been in the shop for trans issues.

[@codymays9971]

we had a 10l80 in a 2020 Silverado that had the pump drive idler gear spin on the bearing race and start walking off. It caused a supercharger whine noise. We pulled it and replaced the front piece behind the converter that houses all the pump drive stuff and it has been great ever since. We love this trans. It is amazing. The shifting is spot on. It never gear hunts. Its about as good as a trans can get.

[@hochhaul]

GM tried to avoid complaints for noise from the straight cut gear Ford used but nobody bothered to make sure the bearing could handle the thrust of a helical gear.

[@hdvictoryford5329]

Ford did a recall on the 10-speed. With the new work done, mine shifts perfectly. All this complaining has no merit anymore. My son's company had a fleet of vans, around 50. All Chevies, all,all have been in the shop for trans issues.

[@MechanicalSymphony]

Ford and GM coming together to create the worst transmissions they can

[@timkopp2204]

Planned obsolescence. Job security.

[@JasonW.]

? I didn't see Nissan CVT written on it anywhere

[@hdvictoryford5329]

Ford did a recall on the 10-speed. With the new work done, mine shifts perfectly. All this complaining has no merit anymore. My son's company had a fleet of vans, around 50. All Chevies, all,all have been in the shop for trans issues.

[@wlm2618]

They seem to do better in the Fords than the GM autos. They did not come together to build this. GM could not make a transmission that worked well for their truck or sports cars, so they went to Ford and received licensed permission to build Ford’s 10 speed for their vehicles. As usual, GM it appears, tried to change or cut something out of the process and still not working well for them.

[@deskonosido1026]

@@wlm2618dayum

[@blythkd9017]

Great video on the GM/Ford collaboration on the light duty 10spds. If you have similar data on the HD transmsission that are in the diesel trucks, that would be a great video too. A straight up comparison on the similarities and differences would settle plenty of arguments. Thanks.

[@therealRustyShackleford]

Municipal mechanic here....We just got two 2024 f-550's and four 2024 F-350's. First 350 we got we took it back to service department for the transmission whine. Dealership seemed perplexed by it but in the meantime, we took delivery of the 550's and they had the same noise. Sounds like a PTO is engaged. Dealership called us and said it appears to be normal (which we had already sort of figured out ourselves through reasoning). Plans are to buy about 16 more of these over the next 2 years so I sure hope they can hold up to a lot of idling, pulling, and plowing. I really like the transmission. I don't necessarily like the whine but it is what it is. Definitely very noticeable. Thanks for your videos, Mayson! Doin' a great job.

[@fastinradfordable]

Read the owners manual. You are NOT Supposed to IDLE your truck. At all. If you got two of em read one of the manuals

[@therealRustyShackleford]

@@fastinradfordable Ha Ha...not been around municipal vehicles much have you? They probably idle as much as police vehicles if not more depending on what they're using the truck for that day. Read the manual.....👍 Got it!

[@jimmyaber5920]

If the whine makes it Powerglide reliable it is an acceptable price to pay. Of course a 2 speed Powerglide is the polar opposite of a 10 speed

[@kleetus92]

Funny you mention whine in the transmissions... don't know how old you are, but if you remember the ORIGINAL Allison automatics from the 70's and 80's those things whined like a gear driven camshaft, but they never died. Hopefully that's the case here as well, but time will tell.

[@therealRustyShackleford]

@@kleetus92 the earliest Allison's I have been around was the old 4 speed that the torque converter locked in each gear. I think they were a 740D??? I drove front discharge concrete trucks for many years and they all had this transmission. They were indestructible but when it they switched from, say, second to third gear, the converter would unlock and then it would just hang in third / unlocked forever it seemed then the converter would lock and you would start to gain speed again. Then it would switch to fourth gear and unlock the converter again. It would hang there in fourth / unlocked forever with the engine at 2000 rpm then it would lock the converter and then it is was good from there. Form what it felt like, they would take off in first unlocked then go to first locked, second unlocked to second locked, third unlocked to third locked, and then fourth unlocked to fourth locked so they were always skipping around with engine rpm. And yes, they were noisy. Especially switching from first gear locked to second gear unlocked and second gear locked to third gear unlocked.

[@starlord872]

Man I miss manual transmission in those half tons!!

[@musclesmouse]

I miss my 1999 F150, but the Mazda transmission was the weak spot

[@autismion]

I'd rather have a BTS 4R100 than the zf6 on a 7.3 powerstroke. More reliable, no changing the clutch or pilot bearing issue, holds boost between shifts

[@jameshanson7065]

Back in May, I bought a new 2024 F-250 super duty with the 6.8 gas. It seems to drive and shift ok. However, one thing I noticed less than a week into driving it is that in certain gears, if I take my foot off the gas to coast a little bit and put my foot back on the gas, it'll do this little pop and jerk. The impression I get is like there's too much slop or slack in the drive line somewhere. Also, sometimes when I'm slowing down to a stop and while it's downshifting, sometimes it'll do that little pop and jerk during the downshifts as well. I took it to the dealership where I bought it about 5 days after the purchase, and they had two techs and the service manager all drive it to observe my concerns. They said everything was normal and not to worry about it. It is hard for me to believe that is normal. Especially considering that the 2010 F-150 with over 200k miles I traded in for it never did any of that. The new truck now has 6k miles on it and where it doesn't seem to be getting worse. It still bothers me to the point where I honestly dread driving it due to the popping and jerking. Anyway, I now have an appointment with a different Ford dealership that has a lot more state-of-the-art top tier service department capable of doing a far deeper dive into what's going on with that transmission. Unfortunately, I'm on a waiting list and they said the wait is about a month out due to them being so busy. So hopefully they can get to the bottom of what's going on with it and fix it properly so I can get 250k+ without any more issues. A tech did a quick ride-a-long with me to experience my concerns and did say that it was abnormal. Sorry for my long-winded rant. Has anyone with the same truck either had or currently having the same experiences with the transmission in your super duties?

[@canontempleton7841]

$8000 to dealer in middle GA at 120k in my 2018. Took them 3 transmissions from ford to get a good reman unit. 10k miles later and they’ve already had to swap it again for an another reman. Wish I could’ve brought it straight to you to begin with. $5500 rebuild from someone who knows what they’re looking at beats a mechanic they just changes parts.

[@charliehargrave7458]

fix or repair daily

[@hdvictoryford5329]

Ford did a recall on the 10-speed. With the new work done, mine shifts perfectly. All this complaining has no merit anymore. My son's company had a fleet of vans, around 50. All Chevies, all,all have been in the shop for trans issues.

[@ArchangelMLM]

@@charliehargrave7458 fix or repair daily, found on road dead, fk'in old rebuilt dodge.

[@nahbro3240]

Dealers mecanic are at best average tbh.

[@bigmansir3745]

You should sell cdf drums as merch

[@nickoliva4797]

As a GM dealer tech. i will say the valve bodies are having lots of problems. been replacing lots of em. I have only seen one totally trashed due to owner abuse,

[@nahbro3240]

"Owner abuse" been on and off gm dealera and arguing with them that the truck doesnt work well and shift like ass. What they told me for the last 2 years? No check engine no problem. Alright bud, i got a 200k milles warranty that covers bumper to bumper. She shift so bad now im about to get her to grenade. Mf gone stfu when the pick up show up on a tow truck.

[@andrewpena9041]

I have a 2020 Silverado. I bought it July 2024 with 35,900 miles. It has the 10L80 paired with the 3.0 Duramax. I'm doing transmission fluid changes every 25k miles. Fluid is cheap and transmissions are expensive.

[@Sleeper_Solutions]

That doesn’t prevent the problem from occurring you’re wasting money

[@fastinradfordable]

@@Sleeper_Solutions Buys 3.0 duramax and acts like it’s goona last😂😂😂😂 Save the fluid money for when the two engine belts go out at 150 Or the thermostat that’s inaccessible without removing the motor 😭😭😭

[@LTVoyager]

Frequent fluid changes don’t fix design problems.

[@nahbro3240]

​@@fastinradfordablelmafo i didnt know the thermostat was that deep😂😂😂

[@GrantDouglas-hp7ul]

The Cup plugs in the input shaft also become disloged. The E clutch seals blow out. Also had the pin in the pump roll out of position causing low pressure. On the 10r60, the A clutch snap ring likes to blow out.

[@michaeljohnson4947]

I've had to build my transmissions, to stand up to my heavy foot for years. A new one needs $6000, of parts and work, to be bullet proofed. Maybe more, if your slapping a Whipple, on your new 5.0 F150, you'd need a bit more. I believe a 10r80, builds up to a 10R140...on the same case. Building it up front, is cheaper than waiting for it to break.

[@roytaylor6151]

I’ve got a livernoise tuner on my f150 and it fixed all the shifting issues. It doesn’t skip shift and it shifts firmly now.

[@markt538]

2018 F-150 got as a demo with 2000 miles in early 2019. Now at 120k. Changed 8:15 fluid and filter at 80k and had a shop flush at 100k. Does skip gears especially 1-3 and sometimes clunky into 4. I run in tow mode about monthly just to exercise all the valves and clutches. Runs great, tows strong. Looking for 300k. We’ll see.

[@FlyingWrenches13]

I’ll give you 10:1 odds it doesn’t make it?

[@Patrick-xd8jv]

I had my 2020 rebuilt this spring because it was locking up on the 1-2 shift the first shift of the day cold, literally sliding the rear tires. It had under 40,000 miles. I know they put in the updated drum/ bushing and a bunch of other parts. Hopefully the anodized shell was done also. I’m glad I got the extended 100,000 mile warranty

[@garrettjaneski6209]

All this being said… I really have a new appreciation for my good ole 6R80E transmission in my ole Ford truck ✊🏼

[@Turboexplorer]

Great trans. I love it!! Does have a few issues but new stuff does. I'm a tech so over haul is easy on these so I absolutely own one. 2018 F-150 w/3.5l

[@hdvictoryford5329]

Ford did a recall on the 10-speed. With the new work done, mine shifts perfectly. All this complaining has no merit anymore. My son's company had a fleet of vans, around 50. All Chevies, all,all have been in the shop for trans issues.

[@patriot5526]

The 10 speed transmission in Ford pickups is the reason I sold my F 250 and bought a Ram 250O with the ZF 8. The ZF8 is indestructible. I love this power train.

[@jimmyhorton8297]

I bought a F150 XLT sport FX4 in December of 2019 with 32 miles on it. I noticed immediately that it was clunky in the lower gears. I drove it on pipeline job sites, towed a side by side, towed a boat, and drove thousands of miles. It was just clunky. Last year at around 84,000 miles, I noticed it shifting hard between 3rd and 4th gear. I took it in for a replacement of the APIM and some other warranty issues and I asked them to check the programming on the transmission. The dealer called me and said they wanted to remove my transmission and check for the bushing issue in the CDF drum. I had the extended service plan, so I said no problem. They ended up having my truck for a month due to a shortage of some single use bolts for the reinstall process. Have no idea if they installed a new valve body or the new style drum, but it seems to be doing fine and it’s much smoother. That whole process cost me 100 bucks. The service manager told me this year when I took it back for cam phaser replacement, that they charge 9500 bucks for a non warranty 10R80 replacement.

[@Horvath0819]

I bought a ‘21 F150 Lariat in August with 37k miles. I noticed the same thing, very clunky when coming up to a stop on downshifts. Took it to the Ford dealer I bought it from and ended up getting the transmission overhauled with the new updated CDF drum, clutches, seals, etc. I was told that per Ford they just clean the valve body and reinstall it. My service advisor told me to drive the truck for 1000 miles and if it’s still not shifting properly they will replace the valve body as well. One thing I wasn’t expecting was that when they were removing the cats to get the trans out, the bolt threads on the turbos stripped so I ended up with brand new turbos as well all covered under warranty lol. The truck definitely shifts much better now but it’s only been a few hundred miles so far

[@hdvictoryford5329]

Ford did a recall on the 10-speed. With the new work done, mine shifts perfectly. All this complaining has no merit anymore. My son's company had a fleet of vans, around 50. All Chevies, all,all have been in the shop for trans issues.

[@jimmyhorton8297]

@@hdvictoryford5329 what do you mean ? I’ve had no recalls on my 2019 for anything transmission related to this day. If I hadn’t gotten the Ford extended warranty, I’d be out a whole bunch of money. And a transmission should not have to be rebuilt at 84,000 miles unless it’s been severely abused. Ford says they should go 100,000 miles before they even need service. And the reason it failed was a design flaw. If that’s not worth complaining about, what is?

[@hdvictoryford5329]

@@jimmyhorton8297 Why are you whining to me? Call the dealership and find out. They did mine on 11-23-2024 And I did not get any extended warranty, and it cost me zero!

[@jimmyhorton8297]

@@hdvictoryford5329 nobody is whining to you. You made a statement, I responded to it. That’s how it works. I’m just telling you my experience. You said all the complaints have no merit, I say you’re wrong.

[@jwillar1]

According to TSB 24-2304, published 24Sep2024, the build date range is On or Before 15Aug2022. Vehs built after this date have the revised CDF parts.👍🏻

[@jasonarbour1616]

And they still shift like shit. At least my 2022 does, built 12-30-2022

[@jasonbrushett2005]

I like the 10 speed,love the skip shifting. Great for towing.Beats 6r80 hands down when towing.My 17 f150 3.5 with 10r80 was way smoother than my 19 3.5 with 10r80.This one shifts rough when cold but otherwise fine

[@aidanschulte9969]

I work at a Ford Dealer in Michigan. Have a 17 F150 Raptor with the 10R80, I think it is a CDF Drum because it slams into gear when shifting into drive

[@jasonarbour1616]

Valve body

[@9002-bv9xz]

Only transmission I haven’t had a single issue with is the Aisin 6 speed in my 2008 Tundra 5.7…300k hard miles and still shifts like new! After almost 17 years I’m starting to look at something new…but Toyota ruined the new Tundra. Now I see all the issues Ford and GM are STILL dealing with…ugh. Wtf do I buy?!?! 😵‍💫

[@prevost8686]

I’ve bean Asian import technician for 30 years and unfortunately there’s nothing being made by Toyota or Honda that I would recommend to anyone. My advice is to buy used and find the rare low mileage vehicles in the market even if you have to pay more for them. Small turbocharged vehicles with DI and CVT transmissions have ruined the long term reliability of most vehicles being built today.

[@Nick-gi6ym]

@@prevost8686don’t buy ram!

[@prevost8686]

@@Nick-gi6ym There’s nothing new that I would buy.

[@kevinc8744]

I feel your pain... we're in the same boat, I am currently on my second Tundra, 247,000 with only the secondary air pump recall and regular maintenance.

[@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451]

@@Nick-gi6ym At least Ram is going to all ZF transmissions now.

[@2H2521]

That’s real smart to throw that in the beginning! Great way for it to bounce around & damage the truck that was outside the garage!

[@milldawgj9598]

This makes me love my 6r140. With rev max valve body. 17 alumaduty. Fuel mileage be damned.

[@okcmoparguy724]

Really enjoy your videos man but I gotta disagree on which trans is best. Mopar used to have major trans issues, ZF 8-spd resolved everything. The amount of abuse customers put those through (Wranglers, Hellcats, etc) and it just takes it. Even the lighter duty versions are great. We're about to find out how it handles the Cummins but I'll be surprised if theres any issues based on their prior track record. Keep up the good work brother!

[@Alloutdrs1]

Zf for sure as the top transmission right now, I can't wait to see how the hd version does.

[@MechanicalSymphony]

A lot of the previous 6 speeds were born from the ZF 6HP such Ford 6R line and GMs 6L line. The ZF 8HP is a successor to that meanwhile Ford and GM went off on a repeat of the 6 speed transverse.

[@kineticenergy1085]

What would you say is the failure rate? 1 in 5, 1 in 100, 50/50? Seems like a high failure rate to me

[@braper2428]

Im curios to

[@chadwicoff6378]

Maybe 10 million on the road? If it was 10% I can’t imagine ford could tsb their way out of that many complaints

[@mustangbill4147]

I welded my one way clutch to the front of the housing. But I was pushing almost 900hp through it. Now it’s completely rebuilt with upgraded clutch’s to handle more power. New cdf drum and valve body.

[@glennandcara]

I have 2017 raptor original transmission. 180k on truck . Runs great

[@mikedurling2111]

2017 3.5 ecoboost 120k miles. Did a filter and fluid change at 75k miles. Gonna do a fluid change at 125k. I have an occasional shift flair going into 4th when it does shift into it which is annoying and only the first shift of the day. It also downshifts into 3rd clunky from time to time. It’s been like this since I bought it with 50k Miles. Other than that it’s been solid. Wonder how much time I got left before a rebuild.

[@The_Backsmith802]

Could you make a video discussing the symptoms that would cause someone to need a rebuild? What would you feel while driving that would correlate to the CDF drum bushing or the F clutch notching?

[@Patrick-xd8jv]

The first cold 1-2 shift will let you know that the bushing has slipped

[@lennyjonas5417]

I did a full fluid exchange on my 18 F150 at 100K miles. I am almost to 150K miles now and plan to do it every 50K going forward. Is this a good plan? It’s been flawless so far.

[@T-rev90]

When i looked this up for the trans all i see is 30-60k. That's my plan for my 24.

[@Ratkill9000]

If you're towing often, I'd say fluid and filter at every 36k to 40k miles. If only towing occassionally yeah 50k should be fine.

[@Ponyo3816]

My A10R80 came half a quart low on fluid from Factory. Then after an exhaust cam solenoid replacement. Has turned into the best transmission I have ever driven.

[@mikewest5529]

Well I ordered a 2018 Kinger, but I did a bunch of mods. Had a custom tune made from MPT tuning so it would shift every gear!! I wonder how long it will hold. We don’t beat the truck but she makes 15 pounds!! So much fun. And yes we had the rev limiter turned down!! She makes power tho!!

[@davewilson7120]

If it's your shop I hope your place grows your on point I'd rather deal with you than amcco that's for sure close in price

[@kenanderson2216]

I have a 2020 F450. I like the 10 speed. 1st gear runs a little long and putting around in parking lots creates a slammy upshift from 1st to 3rd, but I just idle through parking lots. 75000 miles only. Still haven't done the 1st filter change. 🤣

[@cliffweinan3907]

Great speed video on all the 10 speed issues, upgrades, solutions. Wow $5k for a rebuild + reinstall + programing / relearning; how much fuel money is saved ? All these extra moving parts, there is good reliablity in simplier 3, 4 transmissions. Dipsicks let you check fluid level /quality AND add fluid that leaks over time.

[@bruceb1958]

There is a dipstick...it's just small and accessed from the bottom. I change ATF at 30K intervals and the level never changes between fills.

[@kleetus92]

@@bruceb1958 Accessed from the bottom?? Sounds more like a plug!

[@bruceb1958]

@@kleetus92 Its used to fill the transmission but also incorporates a dipstick.

[@bruceb1958]

@@kleetus92 Accessed from the bottom of the vehicle. Its a fill plug with a dipstick that can be used.

[@kleetus92]

@@bruceb1958 Ohhhh so it's on the side of the case or the top of the pan?

[@jamesmcintire3800]

2020 Ranger so far has been rock solid but I tow a lot with it so you’ve given me something to think about.

[@jagxj64]

2020 Ranger - Love the way the truck pulls a trailer with this trans and a little 4 cyl. I have only one issue with mine (beside occasional rough 5th gear shift) is when it's very cold outside and you start it first thing in the morning and drive off - it has a HUGE hesitation on the first shift, then fine after that. I have had it at the deal 3 times and each time they reprogram it and say it's fine now. It does not have the issue when overnight temp is above 55 degrees or if I wait 2 -3 minutes after starting the engine to drive off. Strange but I guess I need to be patient. Seems to me they could diagnose without even looking at the truck - just from the symptoms but I don't think these local dealership guys really understand the trans, they just fix per the manual.

[@kleetus92]

"but tha computer says..... "

[@jeffreystelling3395]

Do the gm vehicles with this trans have the same issues? I only here about the Fords

[@baljeetseggzy7746]

I have a 10r80 in my 2018 f150. I have 120k miles on it and I haven’t touched the trans. Should I do a drain and fill or leave it alone?

[@chairrider2462]

After that many miles, leave it be.

[@baljeetseggzy7746]

@ I ended up doing the drain and fill last week. After doing the service she shifts amazing and is more quite

[@chiefordnance]

How do you know if the drum is going bad?What are the symptoms

[@ericgessner2618]

Just like the fucus trans with the snap ring in that trans

[@jondoes7836]

I’ll keep driving my 2005 F250 with the 5R110W TorqShift 5-Speed. Never had a problem with that transmission and it pulls my race car hauler trailer to the dragstrip just fine.

[@SameGuy875]

What build date has the updated anodized shell?

[@brandond.5494]

Wife’s 2020 Expedition transmission cost $5250 here in North Ga back in August of 2024- 82k miles

[@635suz7]

Do you use the ULV fluid? I swear it evaporates sometimes! I just overhaul the valve body, new ones make the same metal so you’re better off with one worn in , in my opinion. I agree skip shifting causes more problems than benefits.

[@robgoffroad]

So what's your opinion on the 10R140 in the diesels? How's the durability? If it's good, then the only other major thing to worry about is the CP4.

[@kimjongun4576]

Work on a lot of 10 speeds at my dealership they pay all my bills and I’ve seen some torque converter fails and front support failures as well

[@radoliz2]

In my opionion, nothing makes the valve body more better than a bottle of Prolong Transmission Additive.

[@darthhideous4219]

Thanks Flying Wrenches for the awesome video! I just bought a 2019 F150 with the Gen2 3.5 eco boost and 10 speed transmission. It was “Gold certified” pre owned from the local big ford dealer. After I got it home I saw in the carfax that the transmission was rebuilt (or replaced, I can’t tell) about 8k miles ago (in late 2023). Does this necessarily mean it will have these revised parts (namely the CDF drum) that have caused so many issues? Would the dealer be able to confirm that?

[@alanantekeier2305]

I work on these on the GM side, transmission tech, and I dont see the same problems you do with the main shell, there is a small amount of wear on where the clutches are held to the shell but no where near what you see. But even when Gm and Ford got together last time for the 6T70 trans they had different problems mainly because they design it together but get their own manufactures to make the parts.

[@ChristisKing117]

If mine goes out, I’m getting the BD diesel version from Stage 3. $3500. Lots of upgrades over oem.

[@kleetus92]

I find it interesting that there's a lot of fine particulate matter that seems to be getting into the controls... what all does this transmission family have by way of filtration? I'm sure there's a sock or whatever in the pan, but is there an external fine or polishing filter in the cooling loop? In seeing some of the shots with the valve body being split, there's A TON of contamination in there that I'm honestly surprised to see. How is that stuff getting past the filter and pumps? Seems like a great case for an external spin on 10 micron hydraulic filter to be added.

[@reason2gether]

I'll keep my TH350 in my 2nd Gen Camaro! Much easier and cheaper to rebuild if ever necessary. Built mine in college in 1987, still going strong. 😊😊

[@jims4912]

Question I only see aftermarket aluminum transmission pans for the diesel Is it the same pan my 22’ f-350 7.3 would use ?

[@Allegronaut]

I'm glad I have a 2017 F-150 with the 6-speed, the extra gears just cause extra shifting = heat = wear, for what, an extra mpg, drive a 6-speed nicer!

[@Bacnow]

My ‘20 F-150 (60k miles) and ‘22 Bronco (15k miles) both have 10 speed transmissions and they both run smooth as silk! But, both vehicles also have extended 10yr / 150,000 mile warranties so i’m not too concerned.

[@diamondharp]

Great video! Thanks for the info. I have a 2018 Expedition that was manufactured in March of 2018. It has 72,500 miles on it. I have a couple of questions. Are there any preventative measures that you would recommend? Fluid change or additives, or anything else that I can do as preventative maintenance???

[@machine7767]

Drop the pan and change the filter every 30,000 miles. Refill with fluid. That only gets about half the fluid, which is why it needs to be changed every 30,000 miles

[@05milmachine90]

You could change the fluid every day and it wont stop it from failing. Nothing you can do to stop that sleeve from walking. Unfortunately we are stuck fixing Fords discount engineering.

[@843carmine6]

Hey boss 2020 f150 5.0 10 speed 100k miles should I change trans fluid hearing mixed emotions

[@Jay388]

What transmission is in the new F250 with the 6.8 ? I heard it's a 10R100 🤔

[@joeinmi8671]

You didn't check the endplay clearance in your video assembling the 10r80. We set the case on a super duty rotor and set the shell on a 5gal bucket with a hole in the bottom and assemble everything in a "upright" position. Makes life a lot easier.

[@anish-79]

On Mustang GT after ATF and Filter change is it safe to "Flush The Torque Converter " ? Camaro don't have filter its just drain ATF and Fill in New ATF, after is it safe to Flush The Torque Converter ?

[@jamesgeorge4874]

More than 8 ratios, is unnecessarily complicated for a pickup. 6 might be plenty for 90% of owners.

[@patrickg2577]

That’s the problem. The engines keep pushing out more and more hp, to keep the EPA happy with fuel miles and also keeping the customers happy it’s a trade off. They have pushed all they can with newer trucks. The add more gears and run tall ratios will only go so far with keeping both sides happy. The older trucks will always be better and more reliable.

[@MouwDown]

I have a 2020 f150. Would be cool if i could get the updated shift parameters the newer trucks ended up going with to get rid of the wonky feeling mine always has.

[@bpresgrove]

Had a 2019 f150 5.0 with that 10 speed and hated it. Traded that for a 2017 5.0 6 speed and love it. That being said I just bought a 2021 expedition max platinum lease turn in with the 3.5 eco and that 10 speed. Only has 19000 miles on it and so far it’s a night and day difference. Time will tell but hoping it’s a good tranny.

[@dondeville8212]

I've got a '21 Expedition and we had the CDF drum, valve body and a bunch of cooked clutches replaced. Trans out 3 different times to fix all the issues. They finally just replaced the transmission with a new one. All of the updated parts were end of '22 so '23 and up will have all the new stuff. Mine finally drives as it should.

[@bpresgrove]

@ thanks for that heads up! Guess I may as well start pushing for fixes

[@jeedwards1981]

@@bpresgrove you have extended factory warranty?

[@bpresgrove]

@ yes

[@Kona5.0]

@flying wrenches - Is it possible to upgrade the transmission software to the newer calibrations (21+ or S650) on a 2019 Mustang? I have driven the s650 and the way it shifts compared to my 2019 is night/day difference. Wondering if a newer calibration is possible (either with ford scan tool or FORscan?)

[@jP-nw7nm]

Can you please talk about a 2024 F-150 5.0 coyote STX am I good with this one and are there updates on the 2024 models since we are going into the new year? Pressed the LIKE button

[@diald22]

I have 17’ Raptor and mine does the stupid skipping gears shit. One thing you didn’t mention is the adaptive learning garbage. Do the new ones still do this? Do you think the adaptive learning is the reason for wonky shifting. I have to clear my tables every 4 months to keep it smooth.

[@deansimonelli2230]

2019 f150 2.7. Wonder if those software updates are available for older vehicles. No issues other than occasional clunk shifting to R and sometimes forgets to pick a gear when accelerating.

[@austinprice3630]

Damn I got a 2021 2.7 and seems to shift fine, only had 27k miles on it. But do all of these 10r80s go out..? or is it just something that’s happened to a couple thousand of theses transmissions ?

[@gcburkett]

What is the danger of letting it go if there is the occansional clunk. The worse clunks seem to happen with little throttle. Pretty noticable shift into 2nd in tow mode when stopping. Does not seem to go into 2nd if not in tow mode.

[@djg1028]

So if you get a 2024 F150, the transmission should be good for 100,000 miles?

[@ryanhessler8966]

I have a 2019 F-150 3.5 Ecoboost that I've towed our 8,000lb camper about 5,500 miles with. Just about to turn 42k on the odometer and I haven't had an issued with the transmission. (Knock on wood) The Cam Phasers have started to rattle a touch on startup however....

[@patrickbyrnes1231]

I think you should get rid of those cam phasors. I did on my 2018 3.5, much quieter and it seems like a component that is bound to fail in time. Mine got noisier, when I checked out the Ford replacement cam phasers. They were much sturdier device than the ones they put on the 2018 I owned.

[@Getusom]

2019 Silverado. Should I get rid of now? Haven’t had any problems yet! Knock on wood!

[@sam-68-56]

How do I go about the fluid exchange in 2024 GMC 10 speed after about 20K?

[@erniedoor1795]

What would cause a 3-4 shift hesitation once and a while. Just had a 4-5 hesitation once Valve body was rebuilt and was reprogrammed 2 times 2019 F150 3.5L Thanks

[@BrettDummitt-ct9yj]

2017 Ford f-150 3.5 a little shimmie at 55 and bad shifting what to do?

[@iceman9678]

6 speed is the sweet spot. There does seem to be a link between the more speeds you deviate from that the greater the likelihood of problems.

[@TheDickstorm]

I was thinking the same thing. I have a 16 F150 2.7 ecoboost and it shifts perfectly, appx 89000 miles.

[@ADBSpartan]

Can you make a video talking about the torque converter shudder

[@WizardOfWhoopee]

Transmission shop up the road here has a Dyno to test them before they go out the door or back in the car. He costs way more than any other shop in the area.

[@TheLawlessGang]

truck at work transmission went out wouldnt go in reverse or park its a 2020 F550 7.3 with 10 spd 9k tranmission replacement quote crazy

[@robbiebennett8185]

I AGREE!! TRUMP!!!!!

[@cptbuiltk7944]

​@@robbiebennett8185too bad ya cant buy a decent brain. Con man

[@TexasRiverRat31254]

@@robbiebennett8185 I didn't know he did transmission work!😂🤣

[@robbiebennett8185]

@@TexasRiverRat31254 yea he does that too. TRUMPS TRANSMISSION SERVICE. GO TRUMP

[@hdvictoryford5329]

Ford did a recall on the 10-speed. With the new work done, mine shifts perfectly. All this complaining has no merit anymore. My son's company had a fleet of vans, around 50. All Chevies, all,all have been in the shop for trans issues.

[@kendavis1198]

My NEW 10R80, Replaced by A FORD Dealership, now has 4000 Miles on it and it's back to the CLUNKY shifting "Again", and Now reminds me of an Old 55 Chevy with a Rochester 4 JET with Stuck Float(s) in the Carburetor, when I Step on the Throttle to Either Pass a car or Get on/In Traffic??? There's a "LAG" then it hits/Shifts Into the gear and starts moving. What a Real PISSER. Not sure what to do???? The Dealership Usually has my Truck for TWO WEEK'S when they Attempt to FIX "any" of my Issues. Took em 3 WEEK'S to get the First Tranny From Memphis???? And Get it Installed????? And they OVER FILLED THE FLUID In the Tranny and I had a MESS All the way out Back with Tranny Fluid Covering Everything clear to the TAIL GATE??? 🥵😬👀???

[@sam-68-56]

Are the 2024 GMC HD trucks with the 10 speed updated?

[@mtnbikerva1]

Any ideas on how to fight FORD? I think they are going to decline the warranty on my 2022 Mustang Mach 1 10r80, with 9900 miles on the odometer.

[@MyAirpower]

Great video tips, but, how much for labor and parts ?

[@sleepyta]

Hey dumbass... Maybe watch the WHOLE video?

[@onetransmission7871]

It's a really great transmission if you know how to fix it. Don't think you've got it figured out yet. Most problems are in the software. Aftermarket has solutions for that and a few internal problems. Like I said, it's another great transmission. 56 years on the bench.

[@ogwoodworks]

"Great" transmissions don't fail prematurely like these ones do. You are right that the software is causing some problems but there are mechanical issues as well. Software isn't causing the sleeve in the CDF drum to walk its way out. This transmission has design flaws and customers are paying the price when they have to fix it off warranty. People should quit making excuses for bad engineering and worse customer support. I've owned a lot of vehicles in my time and have never had an automatic transmission fail. My 2018 F-150 with only 50K on it shifts like absolute crap. The 10r80 is not a great transmission. It's not even an average transmission. It's a poorly designed, overly complicated transmission with a very poor reliability record and Ford should be paying to rebuild them when they fail prematurely.

[@dadboddamien]

Hey Mayson, my 18 Expedition is starting to show some shifting issues and at 94k miles I'm guessing it's the cdf drum finally failing. What's the lead time on ya'll getting them in and what's the turnaround time? I'm in Texas but I'm tired of dealing with lying dealers and shady service departments out here.

[@100pyatt]

Needs to be a #NHTSA #Recall these need serious updates on several of the components, CDF Drum bushing and STEEL Trash Cans , no Aluminum!

[@fastinradfordable]

Didn’t mention the plastic pan next to the exhaust disintegrates the gasket 😢

[@D_gas_bob]

Is it a bad idea to tow in overdrive?

[@JoeJalopy]

There's also the 10R100 which I have.

[@AllAmericanAutomotive]

Was looking for this comment. 6.8 minizilla, and now on the 7.3s for 2025 up - tremors

[@richszlama7496]

The 10R80 is one of the reasons im getting rid of my F150. 45k miles and it shifts like garbage. The 10R140 is just as bad. My F350 is on trans #2, and its going in again for service next week. Only 80k miles.

[@bruceb6262]

yeh push the tRUMP Eject button

[@LTVoyager]

Landscape mode is your friend.

[@hesmycat]

My company uses a whole fleet of f450 ad 550 that uses these. Mime and my boss's both blew up the same week. Less than 40k miles on both. Only 12k on mine

[@Ratkill9000]

I'm glad Ford decided against the transverse 11 speed automatic they had patented about 10 years ago. That thing would probably not hold up well.