Why is the LANDING GEAR TILTED? Explained by CAPTAIN JOE

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Gear down, three green and let´s get started!
So let´s look at the different types of landing gears. The most common one out there is the single axle landing gear with a tyre fitted on each side mounted to a large strut. Mostly used on passenger jets such as the Boeing 737 and Airbus A320.
With increasing weight, you need more surface, so more tyres to evenly distribute the weight of the aircraft.
So if we look at the main landing gear of the Boeing 757, you have the main landing gear strut, which by the way is filled with nitrogen acting as a spring force and hydraulic fluids for dampening. Then you have the truck or boogie, and four tires in tandem pairs. But more importantly, for today´s topic, you see this little hydraulic actuator right here, the so-called truck positioning actuator aka the tilt actuator. This little actuator is attached aft of the main gear strut and pushes the rear wheels downwards forcing the forward wheels to move upwards as the truck is axially mounted to the main strut.
As the plane comes in for landing, the rear wheels touch-down first. The actuator holds up against the pushing force, otherwise, the rear tires could bounce up, slamming the forward tires into the ground. Once the weight of the plane presses the tires onto ground, a pressure relief valve opens up and the actuator collapses letting both tires touch down. This all happens in the split of a second. Once the actuator is fully compressed, so weight on wheels, it triggers the air/ground sensing unit from air to ground before the nose wheel has touched down, automatically extending the ground spoilers and allowing thrust reverser deployment and depressurizing the aircraft etc.
But see more in the video
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As a retired airline pilot, I am amazed, despite their complexity, how durable and reliable the landing gear are. Respect to the engineering and maintenance that went into the sequencing of the gear doors.

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How does Dutch Pilot Girl leave one shoe behind Did she go home with one shoe??

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No. It means she's still there ;)

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No they got frisky

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30% of the comments: appreciating the video 1% of the comments: Video length being 7:47 69% of the comments: About the highheels...

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I'm glad you mentioned the C5. The first time I saw one up close at an airshow, when I was 15, I couldn't figure out how it fit in the wheel wells.

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4:30, ahh yes, a 747 made of the strongest material ever, plywood

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At least it's cheep. Jetblue can operate them now

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Plywood and bailing wire and duck tape !! lol

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Never thought about it. :) Thanks for the insights, Joe! Excellent vid. Always delighted when I see a new one is up, for they're not only informative but it also puts me in a good mood to listen to and follow your explanations. Happy landings, captain!

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i think it is tilted so pilots can butter

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When you have tilted gear it’s an automatic butter

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Th3DevelsLettuce a very smooth landing

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Yaaas! Finally someone explains what gear tilt is

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LittleSophia _ I would think it was pretty obvious why they tilt.

[@LegitMoose]

halcyondaystunes surely it's not just the fitment of the gear into the wheel well? That doesn't explain why the 777's gears tilt AFTER it is lowered. I've always thought it's to smooth out the touchdown so that not a large amount of wheels are contacting the ground at the same time, which leads to a higher shock to the fuselage.

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He wa probably checking her flaps

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Well if they werent screwing around then why was the heel there? she just couldnt have forgot it cause nobody walks home without their shoes on....

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Nice explanation and thank you for the shout-out to the mechanics maintaining this equipment!

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As I'm on the way to become an aircraft mechanic, I say that such knowledgeable information is highly valuable to me. It's even better than that of the booklets we're given by the aviation school!

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I was always wondering why the gears were tilted! Thanks for uploading Capt. Joe!

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i am not even a pilot, i just love learning about this stuff. great videos, keep em coming!

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It is awesome how you incorporate actual footage (no pun intended) into your videos. It is awesome to see these engineering marvels operate.

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5:57 *raises landing gear while on ground [x-files theme plays]

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Underrated

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High heels left behind? Someone's done some fun stuff with a Dutch pilot hint hint

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How does one walk out with only one shoe? That’s hard to ex-plane ;)

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When the dick so good you forget your shoe

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what are you talking about? why do you have to be a pervert? we were talking about planes and heels you pervert

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Pervs! Lol

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My dude I just subbed. Was super fascinated by aircraft landing gear and this was a great video to boost my knowledge. Thanks my guy look forward to more content and watching your old videos.

[@opdrvr]

Great video Capt.Joe. Would have loved to see the B-52 gears in operation, especially with a stiff crosswind.

[@suzanaraja4353]

You explain everything so smoothly. Thank you a lot 🙏. I want to become a pilot too. God bless 😇

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Hope you have a good future in flying a A380 😉👍

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Techniques For Everything Thank you 🙏

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I love that you mentioned the c-5

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Finally, Spanish subtitles to understand the content of the videos. It was time. Thank you

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0:16 lucky guy 😎

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Awesome video!!! I had this question for a lot of time!

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[@huntergant6518]

I live literally right next to the Dover air Force Base. I get to see c-5's and c-17's take off all day. It's something to see the landing gear turn and go up and watch something that big fly

[@nickryckx7817]

The episode is 7:47 long. Coincidence? I think not.

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Yeah lol

[@sik59rt]

Great vid. Only a small correction..the oil in the strut is for damping not dampening

[@cdsandiego]

Cap'n J, you've just answered a question I've had in my mind for a lonnnnng time. I always thought that even forces need to be placed on the gear as it touched the ground, but that quite evidently is not the case; it's about space planning and, well, the laws of physics and adroitly managing mass. Brilliant video. Thank you.

[@kristiaanverberne8419]

I am impressed with your knowledge and experience of how an aeroplane work. Thank you for sharing and explaining your knowledge. Well done!

[@jcwat]

7:07 man your screwed if those wheels don't turn

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Something like that happened to a JetBlue A320 back in 2005. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJjRnIxqrd-UkKc

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You’re

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jcwat well that’s why you trust the discipline of the military haha

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JetBlue

[@samuelbhend2521]

then just hope for strong sidewind or do a quick handbrake turn sideways just before touchdown and let her slide in...

[@eastender74]

I've worked on the B52 and thought it's landing gear was unique and rare but you've opened up my eyes to more. Entertained and informed I am. 😁

[@brianpercival1829]

Good info. Also only 2 wheels contacting runway first is less torque stress on the struts. If 2 =XX and 4 =xxxx and 6 =xxxxxx is the amount of rotational stress at the strut and wing beam mounting points. Another is cost in tire replacement, as rears contact first each and every time they wear faster. and are rotated out on a replacement schedule. Vice versa for front wheels down angle.

[@barryallan9227]

i love your show it teaches me to see how different plane works

[@robxones109]

My gosh thanks for sharing actually amazing facts! I never even wondered why there is gear tilt it just looks stunning😂

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[@SocialistDistancing]

Well that answered a long asked question for me. I've been in the landing gear compartment (on the tarmac) of a C5B. I couldn't figure how they got that boogie configuration to fit in there. I only assumed that it swiveled in some manner. Unfortunately I wasn't there to see it arrive or leave.

[@DanielBrownsan]

That was the most surprisingly amazing thing I've seen in a very long time. One of those things you didn't realize you wondered about until someone explains it to you. Thank you!

[@BoB4jjjjs]

Simple when you think about it, but then I had never thought about it. As long as they go up and down and lock when they are supposed to I am happy. But very interesting all the same Joe.

[@lodmstr]

Hell yeah! C-5 got mentioned! - C-5A LM

[@mahmoodbhamji6279]

Glad to see you use the dance step hill/toe, tie/hill analogy to demonstrate the landing gear of an aeroplane.

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Many thanks for your time sir

[@archktik5408]

Great video Joe! I surely learned something today! Thanks!

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True

[@deusexaethera]

Aside from issues of storage space, the biggest reason for the landing gears to be tilted is to prevent excessive lateral force on the landing struts from having all of the tires dragging against the ground at the same instant. That lateral force won't break the struts, because they're designed strong enough to stop the plane using the wheel brakes alone, but the lateral force CAN create vibrations in the landing gear system that could damage parts throughout the plane after a few hundred load cycles. The belly gear supports the entire weight of the belly during the first instant of touchdown, so there is less time for the belly gear to start vibrating upon contact with the ground, and it isn't necessary for the belly gear wheels to be tilted as much to prevent those vibrations from occurring. The wings, on the other hand, still support their own weight by generating lift during the first instant of touchdown, so the wing gear has more time to generate potentially harmful vibrations as the wheels contact the ground, so spacing-out the contact time by tilting the wing gear wheels more is beneficial. If it were the other way around, then the belly gear and wing gear would be arranged differently to provide the necessary tilt for each.

[@redblade43]

shawn. An eagle lands with its feet pointed upwards - do they have struts?

[@redblade43]

Frobe. You say something relevant then; why do eagles have their feet pointed upwards when they land?

[@redblade43]

Fraud. It took you a while to think that one up; that is not the reason anyway, eagles have their feet pointed upwards to create drag and slow down in order to make a soft landing.

[@deusexaethera]

As a mountain biker, I've crashed and gone over my handlebars a few times, which is a bit like an eagle landing ;) , so I believe I can provide an expert answer to this question: Eagles land with their feet tilted up so they don't accidentally drag their knuckles on the ground and scrape off the skin. Also it would be hard to grab a tree branch while gliding forward if their feet were tilted down and their talons were pointed rearward. The comparison to Boeing jets would be valid, except that eagles don't have wheels on their feet, so it's actually a completely different scenario. And yes, eagles do have struts -- the muscles in their legs provide the same shock-absorption on touchdown that struts do on airplanes.

[@deusexaethera]

@dwarfedgiant: There is no mechanical difference between grabbing prey vs. grabbing a branch. Their feet are still angled up in the moments before contact.

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It's amazing the engineering that goes into an aircraft. There is a ton of thought that goes into every system. Great FYI!

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you pilots are really inspirational and motivate me to become one.

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The way you were holding the high heels reminded me of Cinderella 😉😂...congrats on 600k!

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so you picked

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Captain Joe and Dutch pilot girl makes a very good pair..airbus Vs Boeing, opposites attract 😍

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Yes, but Joe flies 747s now for Cargolux.

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Boeing All the way !!!!!

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when the pilot love his job thank you very much for this information

[@nourbacha4997]

Thank you Captain for this great video, nice job. I was wondering if you could make another one about weel breaks (especially autobrakes and the way to calculate the right autobraks setting for a certain distance to vaccate from this or that taxiway, for both a320 and b747, as you used to flight both). Thank you :)

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Lowkey thought it was to make the landings smoother.

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Eric 6645 I can see it being an added benefit or at the very least, a happy accident.

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butter landing

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This video is 7:47 min long.. Nice. ❤

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The Boeing 747 has tilted gear, so perfect coincidence.

[@alainkanyinda2868]

Thanks, captain Joe, very impressive.

[@dogeater2446]

for tack control it's easier to stabilize an aircraft to a surface when you have some form of lateral force trying to push your plane to the side ect.. like a car that's air born can it steer in the air no. a plane can yes but on landing not so easy... Plus if all wheals hit at once the forces of the inertia to turn to wheels up to speed upon hitting the tarmack may damage the landing gear. So it's easier to do one at time.

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A video of 7:47 minutes! Coincidence, i don t think so ;)

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No Way! Very cool. What was he doing there?

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Im airline pilot for more than 10 y and i had no idea about it! Thank you capt Joe. Enjoying my paid leave to improve my knowledge! Cheers

[@eklhaft4531]

This was way more interesting than I expected. Thanks.

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We understand Joe, Dutch is pretty fit like

[@Santibag]

Even though it's not their reason for being tilted, being tilted makes landing gears 10 times more beautiful. Especially my ex-love: 777. Why ex-love? I just didn't see one for a long time. I will probably fall in love again when I hear those GE90's and Trent 700's.

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you mean shoeless

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Trent 800. 700 is A330ceo

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Ge9x

[@chrishintz1077]

Yes. Hats off to ground crew maintenance mechanics ! Gear up/down can seem so graceful, almost like a dance. Mirroring how a bird would extend and retract feet.

[@muhammadrafiqulislamkhan6994]

heel and wheel not the bad idea.Thanks Joe. I like your example, first we touch our heel then toe to walk same as the aircraft.

[@davidnievesjr.9478]

I watch those C5 Galaxies all the time flying through my town. That sound that comes from those engines is incredible. Very impressive planes.

[@nyxawesome9409]

How about Antonov's landing gear? It looks interesting...

[@yourbigfan1777]

there s just a lot of wheels

[@alexander13094]

What is so special about Antonov An-26?

[@ZaHandle]

That’s just a bunch of aircraft grade semi trucks wheels

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Great video. It answers a question I’ve had for at least five years now.

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You have a dream job. Love your videos keep them coming

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Great video Joe! Notification squad!

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#Team

[@ehsan83]

who like me is having breakfast while learning about landing gear systems by Captain Joe? Excellent job Captain thank you 👍🏼

[@shumbane]

Thank you for the knowledge!! I enjoyed watching this video!!

[@krafty777]

I wish you had shown the C17 landing gear and the B52 landing gear as well. Both are very unique designs. The B52 however is truly a one of a kind, being that the gear can all be steered in such a way as to allow the aircraft to takeoff and land in extreme crosswind conditions with the aircraft actually traveling down the runway at extreme angles. I hope you will consider doing a second video featuring these two unique landing gear designs. As always, love the videos.👍

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Intro song..🕺🍷.. Thank you Joe. #INDIA🤗

[@dr.spectre9697]

Captain Joe....sounds like the name of a really chilled out Star Trek Capt haha. I subscribed to this & now my dad is addicted to your channel. His dream was to be a pilot but he became a mechanical engineer instead. He feels he can live vicariously if he watches videos like yours. Dont tell him, but my sister & I bought him helicopter flying lessons for Christmas.

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Was your dad pleased with his Christmas present?

[@fedelombardi6676]

Good job dude. I'm getting the 747-400 and 800 type and I was wondering about this. Thank you.

[@black_jackledemon6298]

Well done explaination ! Historically retractable landing gear is a complicated engineering challenge as failure is almost always fatal for both the aircraft and pilot. Even if the first generation fighters didn't entirely belly flop the stress of a poor design to the airframe could be more than the mechanics and sheetmetal shops could correct.

[@RamSingh-cg2dn]

_I am just wandering, is all this your own research, or is someone organizing /preparing this for you... I really dig your videos by the way... good job man_

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Did you deliberately make the video seven minutes and forty seven seconds long? “747”

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haha!

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Woah 😲

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Wow

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Jack Budd i

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Shook

[@StarHorseLover2012]

Just a great video, with perfectly illustrated explanations.

[@monicaperez2843]

Am amazed about the amount of engineering that goes into modern aircraft!

[@Jay-he2mo]

Is it a coincidence that the video length is 7:47

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THE ALL ROUNDER Cool Man double coincidence

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6:46 the German 3 hand signal. Inglorious Basterds taught me something after all.

[@aviationfreak08]

megaman5125 yoooooo! for real 😂😂

[@jukajoj2400]

hows that german? how would you signal 3?

[@kevinp8108]

In the USA, you use the middle finger, ring finger and index finger.

[@kevinp8108]

@megaman5125-haha...just watched the movie on SHOWTIME!

[@almafuertegmailcom]

It's not really German, it's most of the world. Outside of the US, the UK, and a few other oddballs such as Japan and India, most of the world does what you call the "German" way, which, again, isn't specific to Germany nor originates there.

[@horastimika3882]

Thanks Capt. This information enriched me of the aircraft knowledge

[@Michael.Chapman]

Awesome, was always curious about that design variety!