FNAF's BIGGEST Debates, SOLVED! (Help Wanted 2 Update Theory)

[@HyperDroid]

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[@ItsVerum]

I've been watching your videos for about a month now, a you defo deserve my sub man! you got some helpful theories.

[@fenrisnox5766]

I'm still not sure that Tales is actually in the same continuity as a 1-to-1 for events, and if it was, we'd be in the darkest timeline where the Novel Trilogy is the continuity of the newer games (HW to Secret of the Mimic) I'm not trying to be contrarian to the majority of the fandom with this. Seeing that we may have to consider Stitchline is in continuity as well (thanks Return to the Pit) man in room 1280 makes far more sense as an aftermath to Fourth Closet as opposed to FFPS/FNaF 6. If Henry wanted to end it all, I imagine he would've made sure nobody would come to the fire to even attempt things. GiBi's Horror Homestead (a channel I don't usually agree with btw) put out a video recently saying that just because we see a Tiger Rock plushie and Murray co. In game doesn't mean that Tales is automatically canon to the games, and he used other major media series that have adaptations that can be mostly faithful to their source with minor differences to back up that point. Final thoughts: Could MimicLine be in the games? To an extent, yes. Does it have to be one for one to the books? Not at all, it could deviate quite a bit in some aspects. I imagine if it was one for one, we'd need to rethink the Steel Wool era to be in line with the Silver Eyes novels (an idea that I've not seen a single person other than myself even consider as a very real possibility, but with more and more references and Frights simply making more sense as an aftermath to the novels (see the cursed Ella doll in 1:35am and Man in Room 1280 literally making more sense to be after 4th Closet) its possible that if TalesGames is real, then its more than just TalesGames. Its SteelWoolBooks (came up with that on the spot, but its essentially the theory that the Steel Wool era of games are in line with the Novels, Frights, and Tales, with the first 6-7 games being in universe games that were made sometime after 4th Closet and sometime during Frights. Remember they started building a mall around Freddy's before Silver Eyes, and that William had an underground Freddy's with a lake, and that You're the Band is a scrapped Frights Story and as such use of it to confirm the first 6-7 games actually happened should be taken with a grain of salt) Tl;Dr: I'm not being contrarian to the majority of the fandom saying Stitchline and Talesgames are happening just because I feel like it. I'm just stating what I think on the matter and providing an explaination as to why those thoughts even came to mind to begin with.

[@hellomitchell]

@@fenrisnox5766 whenever someone articulates their points like this you just get a reply that says “cope” goes to show that a majority of the fandom are still in middle school (unsurprisingly)

[@alexanderjamesaustin]

I love the idea of Secret of the Mimic existing purely to tell theorists "Hey Dummies! Everyone is Dead! Their Souls are Gone! Everything is the Mimic! No more ghost children!"

[@f1john18]

Fnaf has completely changed the meaning of the word "mimic" for me. When ever i hear that word i immediately think of Fnaf 😂

[@HyperDroid]

literally same it's exactly like remnant, I hear it and just think FNAF now

[@JoaoGabriel-r7n]

One thing you didn't mention is that apparently in the game files the M.X.E.S ending is called " whocausedeverythig" I honestly don't know what it could mean but it's certainly interesting.

[@vaspertine]

My theory is that the van is actually the same van that killed David Murray. His death basically indirectly caused The Mimic to start killing. But, anything is possible

[@HyperDroid]

I did think so too at first, but in the story it alway seemed like just a random van that happened to hit him so I'm not too sure if it would JUST HAPPEN to be the person who made MXES or something, but it's possible Scott could always do a "it's all connected" thing with it honestly 😅

[@Blackjack_979]

For those who are saying this doesn’t solve the book debate, only that the stories relating to the Murray family are canon, I said this already but I just wanna put this here: Does it really matter? The whole Tales debate was centred around Edwin, David, and the Mimic. As much as some of the other stories might be cool, literally no one cares on whether or not Submechanophobia is canon or not. The only things that actually mattered were stories like Tiger Rock, The Mimic, The Storyteller, the epilogues and the various other stories that reference those events (alongside disconnected ones like Frailty or GGY, which are already obviously canon). What matters now is that Edwin and David, and along with them, those stories like Tiger Rock, the Storyteller and The Mimic thanks to the green and blue eyed Tiger plush, are now confirmed to be canon. Even *if* the other stories aren't canon, which is kind of pointless, who cares? They don't impact the games story substantially and thus weren't the subject of the debate.

[@CP-zn2mg]

I hate frailty

[@tomjames9681]

Alright, I’ll say it if no one else will… I AM SO LOST RIGHT NOW.

[@joshuavis2736]

Here’s a map, take a map. Take a map

[@Katosepe]

You: All the events across the books and games are identical! Me: Still wondering where the baobab tree went.

[@latlequin1]

It's stated in Tiger Rock that the Storyteller was taken down

[@incinaflaregameing8644]

I hope the books arent while it would be interesting at the same time i shouldnt have to read a series to understand a games plot.

[@ClavisKey]

it's literally stated in the books itself (the tiger rocks story specifically) that the storyteller tree was removed after 3 weeks of existing

[@300bottles2]

If you're wondering then you should probably read the books, because they explain where it went

[@vaspertine]

Did you read the books? The tree was literally removed prior to the events of SB

[@jeremymorris345]

Hey, I just want to say of the bat, great theory. I've been loving your video. I do want to talk about the book continuity though. I don't think seeing things from the books is enough to say they are in continuity, at least not 100% the same. If that was the case Silver Eyes should be canon because Freddy exists in both. That's just not how it works. We have seen books be adapted to the game with Into the Pit and they weren't 1 to 1 with the books. (Not here to discuss if that's game continuity, the point is it wasn't 1 to 1). There is also just blaint contradictions. Hippo Magnet, VIP contradicts Storyteller, Dittophobia isn't consistent with Sister Location, GGY just doesn't make sense with what we hear about Patient 46 or even Gregory in the games. Obviously some of the book stuff is game continuity but I don't think it's accurate to say it's 1 to 1. I think TalesReboot is more likely.

[@STRMAlien]

Its like he says in the video, yes, Freddy is in the Silver Eyes, but Henry also dies before Afton is springlocked, which doesn't make sense in the game timeline. Tales has given us no definitive proof that it's not in the games timeline (that couldn't just be chopped up to the author not knowing the games perfectly and making small mistakes such as the dittophobia inconsistencies and the GGY stuff), but there are way more connections that support the idea of TalesGames. And this is coming from someone who didn't want to believe in it and is still totally against the idea. I think this is a step in the wrong direction and that there are better ways to tell a story than having a whole book series to explain the mess of a game you made, but I can't deny the connections anymore.

[@HyperDroid]

first of all, THANK YOU. second of all I'm confused on how any of these contradict the games: - Hippo Magnet is directly taken from Security Breach and references it by telling us how they mess up the machines - VIP does not contradict the Storyteller, if this has to do with the tree not being there it's already confirmed the tree got taken down after the events of the short story - Dittophobia (while not having anything to do with the Mimic-connected stories and so doesn't really have to be canon) from what I remember just shows us that there's other ways to move around the underground then just vents which we knew anyways from the game when we hear other technicians using doors to move Ballora around - GGY is just the Therapy Tapes but, again, and along with funnily enough Freddy in Space (with Gregory shooting the Therapy Discs) directly confirms he IS Patient 46 Also copy and paste from another reply because I've explained it IN this very video: This is incomparable to and nothing like the original Novel Trilogy with Henry, Charlie, William etc (which I ALSO already say this in this video) as they were CONFIRMED to not be canon to the games by Scott himself and have events completely different SO we know they're not canon, Henry dies before the first game even happens, William escapes being Springtrapped, Charlie is still around as a robot years later, and so much more that make it blantant they are different.

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

Edwin exciting in the games doesn't mean the books are in the same continuity, especially considering the book continuity doesn't line up properly with the games, all it means is a version of him and his story exists in the games, something I'm sure secret of the mimic will showcase. Just because game events happen in the books doesn't mean book events happen in the games. Henry and Charlie were introduced to us in the books first, we wouldn't even have know those characters existed if it wasn't for those books, heck we only learn that Charlotte is the puppet in pizza sim.

[@RFDN0]

We don't even have Henry and Charlie's name in the games so in theory they could be entirely different named characters.

[@revenge3265]

@@RFDN0 True. Wasn't William's name also first revealed in the books as well? I think people are jumping the gun a bit. I have a feeling that more books will be adapted into the game canon, BUT will have details changed in order to properly lineup.

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

@RFDN0 we see her grave stone, and although it's far away we can tell it says Charlotte because the name takes up a lot of space on the grave stone. Henry is named in the HR223 thing and I think in the credits as well.

[@RFDN0]

@TiredMoonRabbit only if Henry's name was in credits would that confirm the name. Otherwise, we have ideas which have never been proven and are ripe for the story writers to change for their own uses.

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

@@RFDN0 that is true, although I think HR223 being on Cassette man's computer is pretty good evidence.

[@GJames-Legend101]

Things I think. 1. Seeing how Help Wanted 2 is Supposedly the end of Glitchtrap I think it’s very likely that Tiger-Rock will take the Mantle of the new Modern Mimic Threat (we might even see a couple of the talesbook animatronics). 2. Ryetoast made a theory that Vanny herself was a Digital Consciousness made inside Vanessa’s mind that has now been removed from her Mind and put in the V•A•N•N•I Mask we use in both Help Wanted 2 and Ruin, and now that Cassie has the Mask Vanny might take her over (I also think Vanny and Tiger-Rock could possibly team up). 3. I think the Van could be 1 of 2 things. 1: the Van is the Van that Killed David in the Books. 2: the Van could be Henry and/or Edwin taking the M•X•E•S Console to the fnaf 6 Location. 4. I think theirs a 50/50% chance that during Secret of the Mimic rather than actually going back to 1979 we might play as someone who’s Exploring and Investigating what happened in 1979. 5. I personally believe that Jackie herself isn’t the Mimic but rather is either being Controlled by the Mimic1 Programming or the Actual Mimic Endo is gonna take Jackie’s Animatronic Suit/Shell and put it on as a way to hide itself and deceive us into thinking Jackie is the enemy (maybe the Real Jackie could be one of the very few Friendly Animatronics). 6. Seeing how the Mimic is in its costume that we only see it wear when achieving the Scooper Ending of Ruin could possibly be Implying that the Scooper Ending is Canon.

[@Joshchive]

Well Henry is dead, so he couldn't take M.X.E.S to the sinkhole. The Mimic wasn't put under the Pizzaplex inside the FNAF 6 ruins until the Pizzaplex began being built.

[@chaoticneutral7976]

I wonder if we'll actually play as Edwin in SOTM or at least meet him at the bare minimum

[@TripleThreat145]

I have a theory (more like an hypothesis really) that the HW2 teaser update actually has two teasers. The first was the SOTM and the other is a teaser for the game SW are making after SOTM (the game that Scott mentioned in the interview coming in the far future). The name of the puzzle is DoubleVision, meaning two of something. The two puzzles to me don’t feel the same. The M.X.E.S machine being here doesn’t strike me as it coming from the factory, rather than it being taken away from the Pizzaplex. You would think the machine would look fresh and clean but it’s the same model from RUIN. As a side note, i wonder how hard it was to not include 𝘵𝘩𝘦 song

[@cowcat8124]

You're telling me that the Bobbiedots are canon?

[@latlequin1]

Yep. That story is actually the reason we know that Sun and Moon were originally from a theatre!

[@shadowking4736]

I unironically like Bobbiedots

[@vaspertine]

Yeah? There are no contradictions

[@wolfietronic356]

They are literally just ai assistants in a building separate to the pizzaplex I have no idea what the issue is

[@stick7962]

What’s the issue with that

[@thomasrobinson8884]

YES CLASSIC FNAF THEORIZING COUNTING PHALANGES

[@xKarenWalkerx]

Anyone notice Ruin can also be read as: R U IN?

[@FnaftheUltimateking2]

‏‪0:43‬‏ A GAME THEORY

[@FNaF_Fan_4yd3n]

So if Glitchtrap isn’t connected to William at all, how do you explain the memory poppets? I am under the impression that Glitchtrap is the agony of William afton given life through the Mimic1 program when it either scanned a circuit board from the springtrap suit that was then taken by faz ent at the auction and later used as the suit in pressure and burntrap. Basically what the yellow rabbit from itp but instead equipped with A.I.

[@latlequin1]

The memories come from the information on William that Glitchtrap is mimicking

[@thedoose9719]

doesn't the mimic just mimic actions not personality

[@revenge3265]

I'm still of the opinion that the books aren't 1:1 and that they will likely change details to fit the games more as they continue to adapt them. Like I think the Into the Pit game is THE definitive version of that story for the timeline. I'm also willing to bet that the backstory of Mimic, Murray, and Tiger Rock will all be modified as well.

[@Jake-ut4vo]

How are you not gonna bring up the evidence from Jackie’s Box?

[@User-Usif]

Now i want William to come back 😭

[@EmotianalBrat]

A little bit of him will always still be there. Well…. Not anymore since since the identity that the mimic used of him is gone. But it seems like the whole story is gonna come to an end soon and all we will have are probably the release of new books and movies to help us finally figure out the story which will be different for everyone😭

[@Mandalore_ultimate]

No William's fate in UCN is perfect

[@CalebLLShow]

Not the comment I was Expecting But as he always says He always comes back

[@EmotianalBrat]

@@Mandalore_ultimate I absolutely agree! I’m trying to help people cope OK!

[@User-Usif]

@@Mandalore_ultimate i do kinda agree but like i think he was better then the mimic i feel like it is way more fun to see the before ucn part of the timeline vids where William is still there then the post ucn part

[@eraykocer135]

Only thing i confused is, how mimic know mci, puppet, and how kids killed?, how he learn about afton this much if afton's body not even exist?

[@latlequin1]

Because the Mimic1 program was used to make Help Wanted, that's what the circuit boards mentioned by Tape Girl are

[@Faz.P.I.T]

Loved this, but personally, i would love to have a massive Talesgames video.

[@OdensMovieMagic]

Awesome!

[@daltomono]

It bothers me that just because of Scott's lack of communication with the studio now everything regarding Burntrap is super confusing and every theory feels like a stretch. I think it's time to move on from his character and accept he was a mistake, he was never real and they as developers are trying to let go of it too

[@honoramongscars649]

Honestly... I think to "clear things up"; they could consider doing a "Director's Cut" to Security Breach in the future.

[@CalebLLShow]

8 months isn’t the same as 9 months tho August to April is 9 May to December is 8

[@howzzat56]

But what about the Fazbear Frights Books?

[@Pastellygothly]

I think Scot said they aren't canon but never said anything about the books to come.

[@vaspertine]

Still debatable. I think they're canon to the games despite the minor contradictions

[@user-gd4fu3sf5i]

I think it'd be safe to say Return to the Pit is the only undeniably canon Fazbear Frights story thus far.

[@wolfietronic356]

"The series will launch with five books each containing three different short stories with unique characters and plot lines some connected directly to the games and some not." Scott said this in a steam post

[@SMH-ACADEMY3]

I saw fnaf with green text and thought it was game theory. Great video, btw

[@NemanjaSavičić-g1x]

So basically to sum it all up: glitchtrap is just the mimic1 program's reincarnation of william.

[@vaspertine]

Basically, yeah

[@qbby4life812]

Post Pizzaria Simulator feels like a mess.

[@tripleg9656]

My theory as to Gregory drawing Burntrap in his comic (i.e. the fake endings), is that Gregory being a kid who plays games may very well have simply played FNAF 1/2/3/4/Sister Location. Since we know the first few games in the series exist in the story since they were made by a "rogue" indie dev. Gregory doesn't seem to remember his time as "GGY" when Security Breach starts, and has no idea who is behind everything (he never sees the Mimic during the game), thus having played the old FNAF games and knowing that the one behind all the suffering in those games is Afton. And since the last time you see Afton chronologically of the games the indie dev made is in 3 where he gets burned at the end while Scraptrap, Gregory would draw him as Burntrap. Also; it could be that from the in universe games, is where the Mimic got the idea for mimicking Afton.

[@VideoG23]

Just because Henry Emily is a character in Fnaf 6 doesn’t mean the twisted eyes are canon. The books are not canon but elements can be carried over. Edwin Murray and the plush being in the books then into the games are nothing new

[@vice166]

literally, this is like assuming the silver eyes is 100% canon cause SL confirmed springtraps name was William afton

[@ripeverythingout]

The novel trilogy is totally incompatible with the games since massive character deaths happen at different times and other significant characters or entities simply don’t exist. Scott has also confirmed they aren’t meant to be in the same continuity as the games. The tales books treat themselves as being “in the world of the newest games” and they directly build off the events of FFPS, whilst also setting up things that happen in security breach. They create no meaningful contradictions with the games aside from occasional design inconsistencies. There is a giant abyssal maw gap of a difference between the two, and they shouldn’t be compared to one another because they don’t work under the same logic.

[@VideoG23]

@ unless Scott comes out and says the pizzaplex novels are canon we have no reason to believe they are canon. There’s no reason to think these are different. The inconsistencies are either meant to confirm a separation or are just errors which would be really disappointing

[@stick7962]

@@vice166silver eyes doesn’t act like it’s a prequel to sister location.

[@stick7962]

@@VideoG23has Scott said any of the games after FNaF 1 are canon? No. Are you gonna wait for him to say so? No.

[@SirGamalot]

Hyperdroid is shifting the paradigms of the FNAF community, along with others, and I'm all for it

[@SkinnyMood27]

yeah, shifting the paradigms by leading everyone to believe TalesGames is canon. Ridiculous. Watch GiBi's Horror Homestead's video about the topic.

[@nexus-i5r]

@@SkinnyMood27I agree, Gibi Horror Homestead is the one actually shifting the paradigm

[@KenchiHasikira]

This bout to be lit, also what’s up Droidy boy?

[@Goofyahh271]

5:05 This even looks like the bottom of Mr. Hugs!

[@jonathanrolle2046]

He was never meant to move like he was a costume.

[@yodxxx1]

So im a bit confused, whats the current state of the situation? Vanny got separated from vanessa Vanessa and gregory are working togethether The mimic (endo) got separated from glitchtrap Glitchtrap (mimic program) and all of its influence is gone Cassy is stuck with the mimic Cassy has vanny implanted into her But what i didnt understand, did all the afton influence on the mimic leave with glitchtrap? Or does the mimic (endo) still know about the murders and everything?

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

14:08 also there are purple areas around the cave area

[@SoCalCoasters]

i swear if this video has something about two elevators in ruin i’m gonna crashout

[@ivoryroc.k3]

William Afton's fans have disliked this video because he doesn't return anymore, just trapped in hell by Cassidy.

[@FNaFedtothebone1983]

Question: Still thinking about Burntrap… if he is supposed to be a hallucination in Security Breach… why on earth we see his claw mark on the walls in Ruin? Or do you mean that he is hallucination in the whole ending in SB? And he physically was there… but just (as Scott wanted) didn’t move? And that’s all in Gregory’s head? Maybe Blob… existing and acting in both main line game and DLC… confuses me… sorry if the question looks strange. But I’m 100% agree with you that he is supposed to be mimics’ attempts to re-create what he knew about Afton. (And actually…. He has some flesh on him… 😂 is that mean that he tried to attach something that remained of Scraptrap 🤣🤣🤣)

[@latlequin1]

He was supposed to be a hallucination, but that wasn't communicated to Steel Wool, so now he physically exists and is instead just Mimic wearing a Spring Bonnie suit. The corpse is probably just someone random

[@jBM7420]

The purple in the room turned orange... MUSTARD MAN FROM MIDNIGHT MOTORIST

[@thomasrobinson8884]

some of the story is actually starting to make sense?

[@vaspertine]

All of them are

[@xKarenWalkerx]

What about Billy, the little boy who identified as an Animatronic and survived the junk yard.

[@xfiremhyoutube]

the blob should been nicknamed "THING FREDDY." Another question I would ask whats the deal with THING Freddy. we see him in the ruin dlc, so whats his cannon isty?

[@bowserattacks9796]

15:00 this could imply that if, purple = william orange = mimic?? or it might just be because of the fire in the room but i think connecting orange to the mimic could lead to some interesting theories

[@RlrOfWorldzYT]

Hyperdroid, do you think it was originally Henry, Edwin, and William or Edwin and William with Henry in the books being the fictional version of Edwin?

[@generalsmite7167]

I have a crazy thought. People are treating the mimic as something completely new as it comes in a new era of fnaf. As it originates earliest in the time line could it have some lore implications for other early fnaf events. My mind goes to this could the mimic be apart of mid night motorist? If the kid that runs away is crying child then could the reason that afton keeps him under watch be that he is concerned about the mimic. I have always been bugged by which kid is killed first by Afton as thematically it would be puppet and Henry say so but if midnight motorist is later that night then what’s the deal with the mystery animatronic. But if the mimic is active well before then could it be it.

[@TDEnderPlayz]

what if crackpot theory, everyone has been in a way correct because we both never got a last name and a first name, what if henry was never henry emily but henry murrey in the GAMES and had a son who died before charlotte (like how in the original fnaf books charlie "had" a brother who wasnt actually real), idk just an idea I thought of when it comes to everyones ideas both making sense but still being wrong but it allows the stories to all make sense

[@NaiFarang]

Honestly, 10/10 theory, I have nothing else to say except this theory is flawless in my opinion and I 100% agree with it.

[@clayton_rose]

Be fair we don’t know if ALL of the tales are canon. It seems at least the Mimic ones are.

[@stick7962]

90% of the stories in tales are connected to the mimic plot line. The other 10 are either stories that don’t contradict anything or connect in different ways

[@Mr.BrokenRecord]

I really like the Mimic and everything, but since Security Breach, the story has been so convoluted that I sometimes just dont care about the story, so hopefully, in the next couple years we move on from this story, unless they can prove that the issues with Security Breach won't happen again, then, i'd hope we see it continue to its true potential.

[@Blackcivicsi1]

Just wsnted to say thanks for your Supreme guide! It cleared up a lot of my confusion and I've even managed to get a few friends interested now since your video is so easy to follow. Cheers!

[@iAmReeseStreams]

I can’t tell if this makes the lore more or less confusing… Either way huge win for the theorists 🎉

[@PyroTurtleGaming]

I don't like talesgames but I am admittedly leaning that direction far more now than a week or so ago. I want it to be Henry who made the mimic because we have so little on him in the games. Edwin feels like he's infringing on Henry's only real characterization as "the talented roboticist in the early days of Freddy's" making this some random new characters is both a missed opertunity to expand on (the games continuity) Henry and it makes this new era of the story feel even more disconnected from the original games story. Same reason I want GT to be William. William being a blight that stubbornly returns again and again is a feature not a bug. I want there to be solid naritivs throughlines from the OG story to the Steel Wool story. As it stands there's little actual connective tissue between the two stories aside from superficial similarities. There are plenty of potential connections but nothing that we have so far has any solid ties to the old story. Anyway I'm not ready to say 100% I believe talesgames yet. But I'm probably hovering around 90% right now. I'm just not supet happy about it.

[@-vitor4510]

Eu acredito que Glich Trap seja uma criatura de agonia e ambição, o meu ponto de vista é que quando as placas dos animatronics de fnaf 6 foi escaneados para o Help Wanted a agonia das carcaças foi parar no jogo (Conciderando que a agonia foi explicada nos "Fazbear Frigth's" que foram lançados depois de Help Wanted, faz sentido pensar nisso) Ai Glich Trap controla Vanessa, em paralelo a isso, acontece os eventos com o "mimic-01" se espalhando pelos sistemas do pizzaplex inteiros. O Gregory como GGY da a entender que ele estava a favor do Glich Trap, e de algum modo o Gregory estária tentando por o Glich Trap com o controle do Megapizzaplex, mas em algum momento Gregory se rebela contra o Glich Trap e tenta tirar ele do controle de Vanessa e do estabelecimento (Aqui seria os eventos do Jogo principal) Apos isso tudo, Gregory de algum modo controla o Virus do Glich Trap e faz ele virar o Mxes com o objetivo de aprisionar o Mimic (após isso seria os eventos da DLC) Essa Minha visão tem alguns problemas: 1. O porque o Gregory estaria ajudando o Glich Trap e o porque ele se rebelou? 2. O porque o Mxes é mostrado junto com a "Casa" que se refere ao "Secret of the Mimic"? 3. O porque o Gregory usaria o Mxes para impedir o Mimic ao invés de destruir-lo que nem ele fac com todos os animatronics no SB? (Um robo com o que dá a entender que tem + de 50 anos, não seria mais resistente do que os robos de ultima geração como os "Glamrock's" Algumas possiveis explicações seriam" 1. Talvez seja por conta da vanessa e de arrependimento. 2. Talvez seja só para lembrar do "Ruin" e o Mxes não faz referencia tão direta ao Secret of the mimic. 3. Talvez ele estaria usando o Mxes para o progama "Mimic-01" e só aproveitou 2 em 1 e usou o Mxes para a forma fisica do mimic também.

[@Trontotario]

weII weII weII

[@kevinahm3773]

Well wh8le I think that Talesgames is truely confirmed I still think that Glitchtrap is a copy of mimic one that was infected with williams Agony and that Burntrap is still William. Yeah I know that there is this one clawmark in the mimics vent but that could be Burntrap travelling around without him being the mimic. Plus The Endos of them are semingly different despite the hand and Burntrap looks very fraggile. Plus the fact that he is a burned rabbit suit with a burned corpse in it in a location where a man inside a bunny suit was burned is just enough for me. And he looks like he needs the recharch station while the mimic doesnt. The only way I could see them being the same is that thas just how gregory sees the mimic because of mimic one or with other words gregory is hallucinating the suit and the corpse

[@julie124]

We need scott to talk about if the books are canon or not.

[@gameslayer3976]

He has, but he’s only clarified if the Silver Eyes trilogy was canon, partially clarified Frights, and joked about Tales

[@thechazz3230]

@@gameslayer3976 Proof? Because he has said that the Silver Eyes are canon to themselves and not the games.

[@gameslayer3976]

@@thechazz3230 clarified doesn’t mean to confirm or deny, by the way

[@Alexgodofwar5662]

What the dude meant was that scott only clarified about the original trilogy, everything else is canon since Scott said the books filled the blanks@@thechazz3230

[@bk77563]

Underscore was right

[@Argalia1st]

And now people are trying to say Edwin and Henry are the same person. Oh, FNaF fans, never change.😑

[@Kinemio]

framtown be ignored then

[@humptydumptysat]

10:51 blatant misinfo

[@wolfietronic356]

Did you watch the interview

[@TobyOliverHenryFan]

I'm not sold. The books are riddled with absolute rubbish. I mean, have you seen some of the stuff in them? I don't think Faz-Goo, Sea Bonnies, Felix the bloody shark and the Bobbiedox are actual things in the games. If you do, are you sure you're fine?

[@latlequin1]

The only thing you mentioned that's from Tales is the Bobbiedots. The others are from Fazbear Frights, which is a separate book series altogether

[@wolfietronic356]

Fazgoo and sea bonnies are just random irrelevant stories Felix the shark is a shark animatronic from a scrapped story (no idea why you even brought that up) and the bobbiedots are ai assistants that aren't even in the pizzaplex

[@TobyOliverHenryFan]

@latlequin1 Yeah, but the books have been like that. These are just some of the more outlandish I could think of off the top of my head. But the Fazbear's Fright series definitely has more of them, but the Pizza Plex also has them.

[@ripeverythingout]

Sometimes the books are outlandish and stupid, but that doesn’t mean they’re not in the main timeline. Bad writing slips into franchises sometimes, that’s just how it is.

[@McCheeseincakes]

Scott could barely get his very simple intentions for Burntrap across to Steel Wool, anyone who thinks any of the writers working under Scholastic is in any way building a world together in conjunction with Steel Wool is drinking some heavy amounts of copium. Scott has different teams working creatively in different sandboxes and are allowed to use each other's creations. Think about how Marvel runs, the comics create characters, the movies create characters, they use each other's creations, and the exist in their own continuities.

[@wolfietronic356]

The way the books are written is like this Scott gives the writer a basic outline (around 15 pages) The writer writes the story Scott reads and makes a final judgement on the story They don't just make up whatever

[@stick7962]

Scott makes the stories for the books doofus

[@meltedtost4680]

Your right about how the books and games people don’t talk but wrong about the continuities their the same continue but cause the people making things aren’t talking there are always going to be slight differences that slip through the cracks but don’t mean they are different continuities

[@YoBoyNeptune]

I'm still not convinced tales and the games take place in the same continuity. All the content update did was show us that the mimic has similar origins in the same way the silver eyes trilogy showed us that William and Henry have similar origins in both continuities they're in

[@kingkb54]

I forgot but can somebody tell me if it's stated what the mimic mimic that was too human like the only thing that I can think of is either somewhere somehow they saw it express some type of emotion genuinely or maybe it started acting like Afton or just questioning something it shouldn't have

[@6R0NZE]

What if shadow Bonnie was the mimic I mean

[@8onnie8oyz]

There is no Shadow Bonnie, only RWQFSFASXC.

[@ThisUserDoesNotExist69]

I was here

[@oph3n1m]

Fnaf should get a reboot just like horror movies do after they run out of ideas and move onto sci-fi just like what fnaf is doing rn

[@krypticot1397]

Honestly what Scott should’ve done all the way back in sister location

[@vaspertine]

Sister Location:

[@thephoenixrose01250]

Hey @HyperDroid do you think Cassidy could be the puppet? There is evidence.

[@oliver1820]

I think that’s kinda overly complicated. Charlotte was Henry’s daughter and Henry’s daughter is the puppet

[@EmotianalBrat]

@@oliver1820ya that’s how how feel. Like if Elizabeth was William’s daughter in the book well then why wouldn’t Charlotte be Henry’s. Sometimes the story is just the story and there’s no reason to confuse things

[@thephoenixrose01250]

@EmotianalBratbut Elizabeth name was confirmed in games.

[@thephoenixrose01250]

@@oliver1820that’s just the accepted theory

[@EmotianalBrat]

@ but…she was also William’s daughter????

[@limegreenlive7813]

Let'sa goo

[@RoyalKingOliver]

I’m actually okay with having a cast of new characters be introduced for this new era of FNAF Because aside from all the convoluted writing and awkward narrative choices, my biggest gripe with FNAF was that all the lore needed to link back to the same people. Every single game/book had to link back to the original cast. Having someone new fixes so much of this jumbled up mess and helps us move on from the idea of “William and Henry made animatronics, but they also made like 1000 things in their free time” I’m exaggerating a little bit but do you see what I mean?

[@dopeypuppygirl]

But why are we considering things from a spin-off racing game canon? And how does that car alone prove that afton was the yellow guy in midnight motorist? I know arcade theory is a thing. But even that is a HUGE stretch.

[@alexq.5527]

My thing is that Scott has always been pretty clear on older books they're meant to be parallels used for solving game lore without being game canon. That, and Bobbiedots has a HUGE game contradiction and the books themselves are full of publishing, illustration and description errors to the extent that it's nearly as bad as when Scott hired guys to make the lore guide and they basically knew nothing about FNAF. THAT'S how many mistakes and contradictions are in them. Plus Scott actually had very little to do with the books, basically just giving them guides on what he wanted vaguely as opposed to VIP which he had a heavy hand in. ATP i honestly think the books being directly canon would be lazy. Even the older books introduced characters, plots, lore and items that either appeared in older games or was used as lore, without the books being canon. To me in just makes no sense when Scott has made his books and film as parallels in universe, to specifically for this ONE series in particular that's dotted with publishing mistakes, make them canon.

[@cybersaur7394]

Purple Guy being named William Afton didn't suddenly make all of the Silver Eyes canon. I am sure there will be many shared characters and events regarding the Mimic between both continuities, but again, we've already been here. The argument that the events being canonized are 'too similar' to not be a complete canonization of the books is a borderline logical fallacy to me, because it requires a level of willful ignorance to what canonizing the books means; it means making Elenor, and therefore Fazbear Frights canon due to the PizzaPlex story Frailty. This is completely chronologically impossible, as evident by how many hoops the Stitchline games community has to go through in order to justify it. If things in the games happening in Tales canonizes them to the Games, then we have to use the same logic that things from Frights in Tales canonizes them to Tales. That is simply being fair in the application of evidence and not cherry picking. This is of course not even mentioning how logistically canonizing Tales is a nightmare. The theorist community seems to forget that the books are an extremely minor part of the actual, casual fnaf fanbase, and so the idea that the games would demand they be something casual fans engage with is basically nonsense from a business standpoint, but I digress.

[@i8dacookies890]

GiBi already has a video completely debunking this.

[@wolfietronic356]

Me when different opinions

[@chaoticneutral7976]

"debunking"

[@ripeverythingout]

He didn’t debunk it

[@Glitchxiety]

GiBi has an opinion on the matter. That's not a debunk.

[@stick7962]

He didn’t debunk shit he compared decades long franchises that have had multiple different creative leads to a series with only one dude in charge of all the stories

[@leonarddement3432]

or it could all just be a nod to the books. like all Easter eggs are

[@kingkb54]

So going off of what you said you were one of the channels you didn't think the books were Canon cuz if I'm correct game theory was Heavy under the idea that the books are Canon

[@hanashideaway]

could it be possible murry is henrys last name? i like this new story unfolding but it leaves me wondering what the hell is henry doing in all this? maybe in the game timeline instead of edwin its henry murry???

[@latlequin1]

That would be stupid

[@hanashideaway]

@ 😔😔 well what does happen to henry

[@latlequin1]

@@hanashideaway What do you mean by that?

[@hanashideaway]

@latlequin1 i mean, if the books are canon and edwin is now game canon… and from secret of the mimic seems to have involvement in the making of the key og START of the series, where does that leave henry? does he exist at all in creating any animatronics? did he come in randomly? why is it henry vs afton and not edwin?

[@latlequin1]

​@@hanashideaway Henry designed the animatronics, but he didn't build every single one of them. Freddy's was a big franchise, with restaurants set up all over the country, so obviously not every single animatronic in each of those locations was hand-built by one guy.