The Epic Games Store Is Pathetic

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Foekoe Gaming

Foekoe Gaming

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@CoolSs
@CoolSs Жыл бұрын
A reminder that Epic needed 3 years to add shopping cart and in that time. Steam remade the whole UI, revived demos. the steam deck was released. New game searcher and an interactive recommender based on games you like etc....
@sadvec6328
@sadvec6328 Жыл бұрын
They only need to add the Heavy update and they fully win
@CoolSs
@CoolSs Жыл бұрын
@@sadvec6328 100%. Tho as much i love tf2. I will prefer steam being good over it. Cuz it improve every game
@dorf7219
@dorf7219 Жыл бұрын
oh and dont forget proton, which helps linux gamers be able to play waaaaaay more games than b4
@csolisr
@csolisr Жыл бұрын
Also, most of their games still don't support tracking achievements, including many of their current exclusives that do have them on console, such as Kingdom Hearts or even Fortnite itself.
@asuperrandomguy8266
@asuperrandomguy8266 Жыл бұрын
​@@csolisr Also Sonic Mania that actualy has in game achiviments but not in the store
@victoriouswinner7745
@victoriouswinner7745 Жыл бұрын
epic games is like that kid who your parents always forced you to play with, alone on the sandpit eating his own snot
@ThomasTaylor258
@ThomasTaylor258 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@jimbo7624
@jimbo7624 Жыл бұрын
Sounds about right for such an inferior launcher
@Tom-yz3op
@Tom-yz3op Жыл бұрын
The same thing can be said about Sony.
@bobertastic6541
@bobertastic6541 Жыл бұрын
and the free games they give you are mid
@kl0nos
@kl0nos Жыл бұрын
And his parents kept giving you things so you stay
@quandrixtwincaster5738
@quandrixtwincaster5738 Жыл бұрын
Epic literally permanently banned me from contacting customer support after I tried reaching out to them about a billing issue on their side. The agent refused to do anything, and I was shadow-banned without warning.
@SkullBeast3000
@SkullBeast3000 Жыл бұрын
For me it happened the opposite when I tried to buy dead by daylight some billing issue occurred and steam helped me so much in that and maybe that's another reason why steam is way better
@gooberpeas535
@gooberpeas535 8 ай бұрын
You're not the only one. They got sued for that and privacy violations and had to pay out over $500 million. Seems they don't mind letting kids buy whatever they want to but when the parents complain and demand their money back, Epic would refuse to refund and lock their accounts. BUT Epic hates it when others try to get more money out of them and sued Apple and Google for "taking too much" of the revenue cut. Epic has also been sued for their habit of stealing dance moves, making them into emotes and not giving the original artist any credit or revenue.
@MoaiGaming1
@MoaiGaming1 Жыл бұрын
Steam is simply unrivaled in terms of ease of use. At this point I can’t image using something else
@accountid9681
@accountid9681 Жыл бұрын
eh, GOG galaxy is a nice one, but only because it's basically a mega launcher, which pulls in all your games from other storefronts
@rubikraccoon
@rubikraccoon Жыл бұрын
I think what makes steam so great is that it is way more than just a "store for games" on steam you have a community, a workshop for modding, a market to sell your cards or your items, you have levels and badges, they curate events on the store like steam grand prix or or clorthaxs steam game hunt, they simply have way more to offer in terms of community and usable content
@ca9inec0mic58
@ca9inec0mic58 Жыл бұрын
@@accountid9681 also that GOG is DRM free
@Relhio
@Relhio Жыл бұрын
Checking screenshots on their Cloud is a nightmare and a half tho.
@Jenna_Talia
@Jenna_Talia Жыл бұрын
And Steam's UI is honestly fucking crap. Like the bar is so low.
@Rogueliker
@Rogueliker Жыл бұрын
The worst is that Epic has been doing that for years straight, like, will they ever learn the lesson that this is an absolutely despicable way of attracting people to your platform? I refuse to think so. Metro, Borderlands, Ooblets, Evil Dead, Darkest Dungeon, Axiom Verge, ans the former three are more egregious though. No wonder I refuse to use Epic Games Store even if the weekly free gamea shtick is neat.
@mint5438
@mint5438 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, no joke, good on you for having integrity. But I'm gonna play dead island 2 even if it gets me a spot on the gallows.
@CoolSs
@CoolSs Жыл бұрын
​@@mint5438 don't pre order.
@ninja0x0thegreat
@ninja0x0thegreat Жыл бұрын
I get the free games on epic weekly. But i vow to never spend a single cent. That way, it hurts epic since they lose money from the giveaway, and never gain anything from me. Effectively im hurting them by just simply claiming the games and not spending money
@mint5438
@mint5438 Жыл бұрын
@@CoolSs Of course. I'm a monster, not an idiot
@godlyvex5543
@godlyvex5543 Жыл бұрын
EGS exclusive = it's getting pirated
@Mach-2-Fishbed
@Mach-2-Fishbed Жыл бұрын
Lack of features aside (which still blows my mind given how long they have had), one of my biggest issues was how quickly (specifically Tim Sweeney) went from "We want to be a competent competitor to Steam" to "We will do whatever is necessary to destroy Steam". I'm all for competition (especially if it gets Valve to fix things), but I have 16 years of amazing memories on Steam and saying you basically want to take them down doesn't quite inspire me to spend money on your storefront.
@Arxgxmi
@Arxgxmi Жыл бұрын
tbh i dont get all the hate theyre getting, epic is doing some really great things generally speaking... and most people have it for free games anyways so the games being exclusive doesnt change whether u have it downloaded or not.
@PlatinumAltaria
@PlatinumAltaria Жыл бұрын
They don't want to destroy Steam, they want Steam's money. Unfortunately they don't wanna do any work to get it.
@cosmicdragon9237
@cosmicdragon9237 Жыл бұрын
@@Arxgxmi Like doing an nft game stealing assets from other games or not fixing the epic launcher
@strategicperson95
@strategicperson95 Жыл бұрын
​@@Arxgxmi it has more to do with what Epic has done. Epic's attitude on swiping games to be an exclusivity deal has soured people Especially when they tried to get a game from a developer, but the developer dared show some integrity to actual make a compromise with Epic while keeping to his promise to his supporters. Epic didn't like that. And it really torpedoed their slogan of "being for the developer." On another point, I'm not trusting a company where the Chinese Company Tencent, a company that is actually told by the Chinese Communist Party to spy, has over 40% shares in the company. I'd still like to keep some semblance of privacy left, and most certainly not allow a foreign aggressive country have it.
@augustday9483
@augustday9483 Жыл бұрын
Sweeney creeps me out. Every time I see statements from the guy, I get this mob boss/god complex vibe. I can't imagine how horrible it would be for this man to own a monopoly over the gaming market, which is exactly what they're trying to do with EGS.
@Pepeutra
@Pepeutra Жыл бұрын
Google Play Games has more features than Epic Games Store does
@rompa8421
@rompa8421 Жыл бұрын
Idgaf
@stratoz321
@stratoz321 Жыл бұрын
@@rompa8421 your mom
@wawawa12233
@wawawa12233 Жыл бұрын
But less games
@Thornskade
@Thornskade Жыл бұрын
Well... you can have a profile picture I guess, but I don't like that you can only choose a handful of pre-made ones. Honestly doesn't look any less bleak than Epic's letter profiles
@Kono_Dio-Da
@Kono_Dio-Da Жыл бұрын
​@@Thornskade The Google Play Store also has reviews though
@catsarecute7447
@catsarecute7447 Жыл бұрын
lets not forget about the completely white payment screen which completely contrasts the colours of the launcher
@shalvei_
@shalvei_ Жыл бұрын
that's such a minor nitpick compared to the other flaws
@creeper7ech520
@creeper7ech520 Жыл бұрын
@@shalvei_Still sucks if you're in a dark bedroom and the launcher flashbangs you
@theotherjared9824
@theotherjared9824 Жыл бұрын
I remember when Epic said they would stop buying so many exclusives if Steam matched their revenue split. They said with a straight face that they will be less competitive when others get more competitive.
@vizthex
@vizthex Жыл бұрын
holy shit, even children are more cooperative than that lmao
@MJ-gw2zu
@MJ-gw2zu Жыл бұрын
Most of epics owners never grew up. They are still riding off the coattails of real success.just like how sweeney swears he a conservationist when his crew is one of the greediest on the planet
@the_downloader
@the_downloader 9 ай бұрын
Why would Steam match the competition's split ? When you have a good service, good servers, good UI, you need to pay your employees, cause they work very well. These guys who gave us the new BPM aren't the people sitting next to Gabe with a big fortune, they're just employees, they need money for food, shelter and health
@JuanRecomienda
@JuanRecomienda Жыл бұрын
Epic games is like that rich kid who is kind of annoying, but you still go to his house sometimes because he has a lot of cool games you can play.
@oueoueokok1148
@oueoueokok1148 Жыл бұрын
The only appeal is the free games and it's not enough for me to give a shit
@voytec448
@voytec448 Жыл бұрын
the thing is Epic games only has Fortnite and free games that are dirt cheap on other platforms
@JuanRecomienda
@JuanRecomienda Жыл бұрын
@@voytec448 Yeah but when you are poor and can´t afford so many games, even if they are cheap they are worth a ton for a lot of people, especially because some of them are genuinely good games like Celeste, Nuclear Throne and Rayman Legends. I even got introduced to some games I didn´t know about and I think are really good like Abzu and A Short Hike.
@JuanRecomienda
@JuanRecomienda Жыл бұрын
@@oueoueokok1148 That´s honestly understandable
@DionneDion
@DionneDion Жыл бұрын
Recently uninstalled epic games store because even the free games are something I don't give a shit about. It's just wasted space on my pc. And it's not even a lot of space.
@cyanflower
@cyanflower Жыл бұрын
I will give epic credit, if it wasn't for the free games I wouldn't have experienced one of my greatest influences in art and gaming as early as I did - Nuclear Throne
@quanzoow
@quanzoow Жыл бұрын
I agree, if epic never put death stranding for free I would have never played one the best games ever made.
@A8EL
@A8EL Жыл бұрын
lowkey, thanks to the free games i got: gta5, death stranding, all bioshock games and much more good titles
@jaysanj152
@jaysanj152 Жыл бұрын
​@@A8EL Got The Entire Bioshock collection,Prey,Sonic Mania,Metro,Nioh,Wolfenstien,Control,Death Stranding and many more. Sorry but as much as i respect steam and gog and they are still a much superior storefronts,Their giveaways consists mostly crappy shovelwares. Atleast EPIC gives away actual gems worth playing.
@A8EL
@A8EL Жыл бұрын
@@jaysanj152 wait they had nioh and sonic mania, bruuuuh I missed out
@noobplaye1218
@noobplaye1218 Жыл бұрын
​@@A8EL Prison Architect... , Death Stranding , Dishonored and KSP
@kanokadany113
@kanokadany113 Жыл бұрын
It's insane how much missed potential EGS has. While Steam has been adding more and more features, the only thing that Epic thought about using their billions on is TIMED exclusivity deals. We could've had a legit competitor to Steam but at this point it's nothing more than a glorified Fortnite launcher and game giveaway machine.
@matts2080
@matts2080 Жыл бұрын
It has unreal too
@sadvec6328
@sadvec6328 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, like, the only reason why I even use it is for the weekly free games since I'm broke
@johnclark926
@johnclark926 Жыл бұрын
@@matts2080 didn’t they delist most of the Unreal games though recently?
@matts2080
@matts2080 Жыл бұрын
@@johnclark926 idk but it is useful not only for games but also animation
@johnclark926
@johnclark926 Жыл бұрын
@@matts2080 oh you’re talking about Unreal Engine. The game series the engine is named after, Unreal, is entirely delisted off of every storefront.
@Jenna_Talia
@Jenna_Talia Жыл бұрын
I think what's most baffling about Steam is they're the only company that people are glad to see as a monopoly, or at least not worried about it. Competitors enter the scene and people get outright pissed off because it does mean they have to start playing their games all on different programs. But Steam handles its power so scarily well it's unreal. They could easily start becoming well and truly lazy and hostile to modders but they're not. Maybe my standards for companies are just too low now.
@Dr_Dan_
@Dr_Dan_ Жыл бұрын
idk what part of steam is a monopoly exactly. they dont abuse their power to stay on top, while not giving two shits about the consumers and their product, unlike actual monopolies. the only thing that bothers me is the amount of money they take from game sells (they should reduce it to 10-20% for indie developers imo)
@Jenna_Talia
@Jenna_Talia Жыл бұрын
@@Dr_Dan_ A monopoly just describes a company that has a single grip on a market. To be fair it doesn't quite describe Steam, but you don't have to abuse your power to stay a monopoly. Most just do so because they can. Steam's got its faults but honestly I'm glad their faults are more akin to apathy than outright malice.
@annabella1650
@annabella1650 Жыл бұрын
The competitor to Steam that’s ever held any real weight to me is GOG, because they try to ensure old games function with minimal end-user tweaking and the no DRM policy. Otherwise you’ve got publisher storefronts like Origins, which tend to be clunky, and EGS, which somehow launches without a shopping cart and ignores every Steam should have taught them. Steam has its own issues, but Valve are content enough to not try and enforce their monopoly.
@OfficialNice
@OfficialNice Жыл бұрын
People don't want to lose their games forever that is the only truth there
@shalvei_
@shalvei_ Жыл бұрын
@@Dr_Dan_ that's not a rule, you just see it often because they usually get away with it
@VGGBrayden
@VGGBrayden Жыл бұрын
When you say “Akchievement” I smile a bit
@CoolSs
@CoolSs Жыл бұрын
I get younger every time he say it.
@LiamLLP
@LiamLLP 16 күн бұрын
Every time he says it I lose one of my most precious memories. I can’t even remember my mother’s face anymore.
@fr0ck360
@fr0ck360 Жыл бұрын
Epic Games Store can’t even add PFP 💀
@Thornskade
@Thornskade Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't get it, it's been on their roadmap for years, if that doesn't show how little they care about their platform then Idk
@fr0ck360
@fr0ck360 Жыл бұрын
@@Thornskade too busy adding crossover skins in Fortnite ig 💀
@charleschamp9826
@charleschamp9826 Жыл бұрын
I got an Epic account solely for the free games, I have zero interest in Fortnite, and after a few years of claiming every free game they offered I finally installed the launcher and tried to play something. I want my money back.
@OgSuda
@OgSuda Жыл бұрын
Lmaooo
@Mamapuchas3000
@Mamapuchas3000 Жыл бұрын
you know that when you want a refund for a free purchase someone messed up real bad
@imac5834
@imac5834 Жыл бұрын
It really isn't that bad
@charleschamp9826
@charleschamp9826 Жыл бұрын
@@imac5834 I have never been able to get a single game to work through EGS. Meanwhile Steam and GoG both work perfectly fine. I want there to be more competition in this market, it would be nice if Epic actually provided some.
@gamesmasher7120
@gamesmasher7120 Жыл бұрын
Dear god the absolute size of that games library, I'm jealous.
@GuerovaTheGreat
@GuerovaTheGreat Жыл бұрын
​@Jakov M i used to keep my games in a drawer below my bed. 42 ps2 games, ordered by genre, good times.
@TheOmegaGamer
@TheOmegaGamer Жыл бұрын
5:25 daily reminder that one of the EGS' first selling point was "we will never do sales they take too much off of shmol devs revenue"
@axain7784
@axain7784 Жыл бұрын
Oh, that's rich.
@TheOmegaGamer
@TheOmegaGamer Жыл бұрын
@@axain7784 the worst part ? if I remember correctly they made the first sale actually shop wide without warning anyone, so every game had a promo even if the devs didnt approuve of it, a bunch of games were pulled out from the store during that time because the devs were not happy in the slightest
@konradzukowski213
@konradzukowski213 Жыл бұрын
I still remember how I was hopeful for Epic making positive changes on the market as i considered the addition of another big player on the market would force both of them to improve. "More competition = more improvement" type of thinking... How wrong i was back then. Epic offers literally nothing better than Steam did for years, their claim that smaller sale split would make games cheaper was a total lie, genuinely making selling games for smaller devs an actual hustle... For me the only 2 reasons why you would ever want to visit the store (outside of playing Fortnite) are a slue of free games and exclusives and even then I don't go there. The only *GOOD* things i can think of is are: -small indie devs get that crucial boost of cash, ensuring that they can focus on making and improving their games without the fear of going bankrupt in the process -once the exclusivity is over and the game finally arrives on Steam, i know I'm getting a better product that what Epic users got on launch. Less bugs, more polish, eventual DLC already being added. Even those "good" things only profit me as a Steam user further down the line.
@lifegrain6092
@lifegrain6092 Жыл бұрын
problem is epic exclusivity deals has killed games, especially multiplayer nearly all epic exclusivity deal sold less than 100K units, and when it release on steam it sold more (or even double) of the units sold on the timed exclusivity deal but being that hype for the game is usually at the peak when nearing and upon launch, active player count is abysmal for any competitive multiplayer game playing in the first 1 year is basically like queueing an unpopular game that has some marketing (maybe only beyond the first month or so) then after 1 year, since majority of the pre-existing playerbase has moved on to another game. new players on steam still has to struggle to queue for games especially in areas outside US US may have a lot of people, but active communities throughout the globe is still more player count than just US for a rather popular game i'm happy for the devs of dead island 2 that they didn't have to waste all those hears in development for nothing, but there's just too few audience to justify continuing long term support for the game or make another game in the franchise (spin-off or otherwise) it's more likely that if the devs could financially fund the development of another game that they'll try out "new things", likely different direction, genre, even maybe art style as they probably lost the confidence in the dead island franchise financially (and business needs money to survive)
@alexandrubossro
@alexandrubossro Жыл бұрын
I just love how Steam seems to *actually* care about gamers, I've never seen a company do something for Linux before (also the Deck is very easy to repair and use it like any other computer, which is really nice). EGS is literally digging their grave like this.
@vizthex
@vizthex Жыл бұрын
another thing is that the epic store constantly logs you out and it's annoying af. never had Steam do that to me (though granted, the only times i don't use it are when i'm gone from home for extended periods).
@delayedplayer
@delayedplayer Жыл бұрын
DUDE SAME, I have the epic games launcher only to play the rare Fortnite game with my friends, but every time when I decide "hm yes today will be the day when I update Fortnite" after not having opened it for about 2-3 weeks I have to log back in with my credentials, download the update to Fortnite at 10 MEGABYTES A SECOND (my internet speed is WELL OVER 250 MB/s, Steam handles 120 MB/s VERY EASILY)
@Mlen_
@Mlen_ Жыл бұрын
the only reason i use epic games is for the free games
@jojom38
@jojom38 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@DOOT_II
@DOOT_II Жыл бұрын
same
@michaelsbasement
@michaelsbasement Жыл бұрын
honestly at that point why not just pirate them while theyre free? not like you stole anything, and you dont have to use the launcher
@jojom38
@jojom38 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelsbasement cause I don't want a virus on my pc
@sadvec6328
@sadvec6328 Жыл бұрын
That description fits like, I don't know, everyone who still has the thing installed and boot it like for 5 minutes to get the games
@darkthunder301
@darkthunder301 Жыл бұрын
"So Kingdom Hearts 3 will release on Steam after 2 years, right?" - Me 🤡
@jaxv3r602
@jaxv3r602 Жыл бұрын
At this point just pirate it.
@darkthunder301
@darkthunder301 Жыл бұрын
@@jaxv3r602 bro fkn teach me! 🏴‍☠
@Aigle662frileux
@Aigle662frileux Жыл бұрын
@@darkthunder301 Just pirate it like everybody d'ont be an npc . i d'ont even understand people who buys game solo game on steam or in any launcher
@darkthunder301
@darkthunder301 Жыл бұрын
@@Aigle662frileux very cool. But if I didn't make my question clear: _where_ do I go to *start?* Most I'm familiar with I'm RetroArch, and they don't have PS3 let alone PS4 up yet. Again, I'm showing interest. Just point me in the right direction, not even asking for handholding.
@inky3575
@inky3575 Жыл бұрын
r/piracy has an excellent megathread about pretty much every form of media and websites to pirate them, games included.
@NSSwitcher.
@NSSwitcher. Жыл бұрын
Activision Blizzard is back on steam as well, all recent cod games (except bo4) were ported to steam and mwII was there on its launch
@Sypitz
@Sypitz Жыл бұрын
Can you blame them for leaving blop4 behind?
@havoc3-243
@havoc3-243 Жыл бұрын
They also left behind mw2cr
@gustavonomegrande
@gustavonomegrande Жыл бұрын
Epic Games has the money, they just don't care. They didn't had a shopping cart at launch, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A EFFIN SHOPPING CART ON LAUNCH.
Жыл бұрын
If you think the launcher is slow, try accessing the store through the browser! I'm away from my computer for a while and had to use the browser store to get the free games, spent like 15-20 mins to get 1 GAME in my library
@gilangthehuman7713
@gilangthehuman7713 Жыл бұрын
If you're on your phone, try using desktop mode. Not using that is absolutely horrible
@xemui
@xemui Жыл бұрын
He showed how slow is the library. Not the store tho
@andrewgreeb916
@andrewgreeb916 Жыл бұрын
The actual purchasing screen made discord drop calls for my last laptop. Like how do you mess that up?
@frostsoul4199
@frostsoul4199 Жыл бұрын
something actually pretty amazing about GoG is that a lot of the older titles they have on their platform come with compatibility and widescreen patches. so it makes that service the go-to place for vintage games.
@frostsoul4199
@frostsoul4199 Жыл бұрын
@@Thornskade yeah, that sounds pretty miserable. having the option to play the game without modern patches would probably be useful.
@DionneDion
@DionneDion Жыл бұрын
As much as I love GoG, most of my games are a bit too outdated and some patches legit won't rescue it. But I do admit that they're at least PLAYABLE. That's what counts for me to be honest. At first I only got it for Jazz Jackrabbit but I've been using it for other games too that aren't on steam.
@vizthex
@vizthex Жыл бұрын
the thing with GOG is that it's like nintendo consoles vs. everyone else's - sure, they're *technically* a competitor, but they do their own unique thing and sometimes even outperform the competition, so it's more like they're in their own league.
@Ikhaho
@Ikhaho Жыл бұрын
@@frostsoul4199 You have the option in Gog. Once you bought a game, you can see in the download-section all the patches to download or not. your choice.
@andrewgreeb916
@andrewgreeb916 Жыл бұрын
Gog has a place in the world, those old but gold games need a bit of help to run
@teinmeizeshi5209
@teinmeizeshi5209 Жыл бұрын
One of Epic Store's selling points is that they don't have user reviews, they "wont allow review bombing". That shows the disconnect with us the customers.
@Kokatsona
@Kokatsona Жыл бұрын
And then you get into Epic Games Player Support…
@ryder_4435
@ryder_4435 Жыл бұрын
That's the thing about Epic, even though they give away free games all the time, there's no reason for you to spend actual money on their store. Hell, you don't even need to have it downloaded to get the free games, logging in from the browser already gets it done. They just lack any actual features to actually compete with Steam (like all of the other useless launchers), and their exclusivity deals just hurt the industry instead of supporting it, hurting the newly launched games in the process as well
@Thornskade
@Thornskade Жыл бұрын
Welp, except for exclusive games. But to be honest, games like Journey, Heavy Rain and Kingdom Hearts are only on PC because Epic approached the devs to port these games from console to PC, so it's cool with me
@oo--7714
@oo--7714 Жыл бұрын
I buy games on epic, half of my video game library is on it. Personally the prices are better at least in the uk and games go on sale more often. The only issue is the library size. But they are just small. I don’t think the exclusivity is a bad thing, it’s a launcher and needs ways of other people coming to their store. I don’t get the boycotting, it’s a literal launcher.
@Thornskade
@Thornskade Жыл бұрын
@@oo--7714 I don't get it either, it's just a launcher, you can add all your games to Steam as non-Steam games and have most of the features. I mean, maybe it's a principle thing, maybe people want to send a message against exclusivity, but many of those same people tend to say they play on Nintendo or PlayStation which also do exclusives so I dunno what their deal is
@lifegrain6092
@lifegrain6092 Жыл бұрын
​@@Thornskade for me, the biggest reason i don't like EGS isn't because it's a launcher.... i mean, i could stand having to use uplay, origin, rockstar social club, etc and a few games with their own dedicated launcher it's that exclusivity deal on epic most of the time means the game doesn't do well financially, even if the game isn't to my taste it's just a bit unfair to the people that do care about the game it's the inherent actively playing user spread is terrible on EGS to the point that it's more like a fortnite launcher that you can also buy and launch other games with it, instead of a game launcher general horrible performance too, i give it a pass when it first got traction but not after years of the bare minimum of improvement in software development, it's like EGS has only went up by 1 major version in years with the main feature being a shopping cart which is a basic feature of any digital storefront that i even made for an e-commerce prototype back when i was learning programming in under 2 weeks then the general anti-consumer behavior epic games has, such as tim sweeney admitting that if apple made a special exempt for fortnite to not have to pay a percentage of the skin microtransaction income that he would drop the lawsuit (basically admitting "i want more money, but it's ok if the other doesn't benefit") a terrible mislead mentioning lower profit cut percentage for games sold on EGS would "reduce games prices", i caught unto it immediately that game prices stay the same and publishers would just make more profit finally, it just seems like EGS likes to blame others or put other down to make them look good, a few examples being: - no user review because "review bombing", review bombing only happens if the dev/publisher does not respect the players so this isn't good for user, it's good for making more money for bad publishers and bad devs - putting steam (a competitor) in a bad light with the "steam takes 30% of profit for game sales" when 30% was the industry standard then had the audacity to claim that "[EGS] will stop buying so much exclusivity when steam lower their profit cut" then steam did overall lower it, but look at epic still buying exclusivity - claiming apple predatory practice of taking a cut of profit on every sale that is processed through their app store, suing apple claiming that [epic] is doing a good thing for every devs on ios devices but then admit that if apple just don't take a cut from fortnite microtransaction sales while also apple would not give the special privilege to any other dev, [epic] would gladly take it and the lawsuit would've never happened it's not a big problem at once, it's just [epic] is going in the direction of even more anti-consumer 1 major step at a time ever since they struck gold with fortnite (even then fortnite alone cannot sustain epic forever, all games eventually die out and nobody is sure how tf2 is still alive) but that's all just my personal opinion, and it's not my business what launcher people uses
@Thornskade
@Thornskade Жыл бұрын
@@lifegrain6092 Developers choose to take the exclusivity deal, who should care most about how well their game does. You should take it up with them. I don't see how this is unfair to people who care about the game. How is Epic Games anti-consumer? The lawsuit was legitimate and against the anti-consumer behavior of Apple, rather. They also technically won as the EU is already forcing Apple to allow third-party software on their devices. I would never touch an Apple device because it would never truly have been my hardware and basically be under full control of Apple so it's funny to me you're using that to call Epic anti-consumer instead, it makes no sense.
@rhuandefrancastrambek2391
@rhuandefrancastrambek2391 Жыл бұрын
i also hate the fact that they literally flashbang you at checkout
@betchaos7383
@betchaos7383 11 ай бұрын
"Man, valve could really use some competition..." *Epic games store comes out "Man, valve could really use some competition..."
@victorsaboski7429
@victorsaboski7429 Жыл бұрын
For me the worst part is that for some reason a couple of games that have launchers like watch dogs 2, if I downloaded from epic the game installs 2 times, and if I uninstall one it just doesn't work, so basically on my PC the game has double the size, and yeah from a darkest dungeon fan I'm waiting for steam as well.
@Silias06
@Silias06 Жыл бұрын
You know, I feel like Epic Games only gives out free games to actual remain as a launcher. Like, it provides nothing to the table of QoL
@logankreger2075
@logankreger2075 Жыл бұрын
What is annoying are some games that recently announced to be exclusive to epic game store I also heard that the epic games versions of games have issues like lag, errors, etc. I am glad that evil dead the game is coming to steam since that game is so fun especially with crossplay on.
@AdnistralSS
@AdnistralSS Жыл бұрын
Can confirm about Borderlands 3 on epic. First lag is sometimes even present in single, second u loose access to dlc if you loose internet connection (ofc till you go up again) so ye, free games can't work around that.
@AhmadWahelsa
@AhmadWahelsa Жыл бұрын
Literally, playing Dying Light recently with the bros, i never faced an issue on Steam, but my friends has non-stop issue from profile errors to lobby disconnections, atleast we managed to finish the whole thing including the expansions a day ago lol
@AdnistralSS
@AdnistralSS Жыл бұрын
@@AhmadWahelsa Did your firends play on steam or epic ?
@AhmadWahelsa
@AhmadWahelsa Жыл бұрын
@@AdnistralSS I already had it on Steam, my friends played it on Epic
@CriIp
@CriIp Жыл бұрын
I remember that I downloaded the epic store for GTA five because my friend said it was free, but after two years, the game disappeared from my library
@johnnylattarulo6735
@johnnylattarulo6735 Жыл бұрын
I wonder why.
@Splashzone263
@Splashzone263 Жыл бұрын
If Epic had literally almost everything Steam had then i feel this would never be a issue
@Levi-gh1sq
@Levi-gh1sq Жыл бұрын
My least favorite part about EGS is just how slow everything is compared to steam. Opening the store, changing pages, downloading, it all takes so much longer than on steam
@pir_hana
@pir_hana Жыл бұрын
reminder that Tony Hawk 1+2 is STILL on EGS, and is NOT on steam because of EPIC GAMES EXCLUSHITVITY my blood boils so much
@haaxxx9
@haaxxx9 Жыл бұрын
Get a Xbox and a copy of Jet Set Radio Future. That's what I did and the game is clunky as fuck but it's still fun!
@BroadwayRonMexico
@BroadwayRonMexico Жыл бұрын
Ahoy matey!
@pir_hana
@pir_hana Жыл бұрын
@@BroadwayRonMexico it is so fucking difficult trying to find a pirated copy though
@Miail7
@Miail7 Жыл бұрын
I am glad that there are people like you that understand me. Tbh if valve lowers their cuts on steam for games to something like 15% instead of 30% epic games won't have exclusives and will just vanish, because this is the only reason why they are better than valve.
@Noodlepunk
@Noodlepunk Жыл бұрын
They provided a lot of services though for that 30 percent.
@MutantToaster
@MutantToaster Жыл бұрын
The thirty percent also includes more people reached than epic, the ability to easily edit and change any little thing about your store page, built in multiplayer compatibility options and servers + maintenance, and many more smaller abilities, like making trading cards, better bug reporting, or giving specific people, (like youtubers) your game easily. Plus its not nearly as slow. I would not call them better than valve, but it is most certainly better than nothing.
@AppleHair
@AppleHair Жыл бұрын
When I was getting free games on epic games, I always ended up abandoning them or buying them on Steam instead.
@studiospider8713
@studiospider8713 Жыл бұрын
I remember hopping in a discord call with some friends of mine and they were all in a game of Fall Guys and trying to get me to join. I got it on steam forever ago so I hit launch and it pulled up the Epic launcher. I didn't know it would do this, it had been a long time since I played Fall Guys. But I couldn't join them because I had to friend them on Epic (in case it wasn't obvious already, I don't use Epic enough to have all my friends added on it). It literally took me FOURTY FIVE MINUTES to open the FRIEND MENU. By the time it actually came up, everyone had to go. I haven't even launched Epic since then
@aurelia_the_jelly
@aurelia_the_jelly Жыл бұрын
Heroic Games Launcher is an awesome alternative front-end. It supports GOG too and is much faster and is less bloated, and as a plus, it runs on Linux.
@KeiladamsShorts
@KeiladamsShorts 3 ай бұрын
Bought a game for 60$ couldn’t play it so I decided to refund it and found out I don’t even get the money back
@vizthex
@vizthex Жыл бұрын
GoG also has lots of old games on it (hence the name), so if you're into retro gaming it's good to use for that reason.
@MapleovBacon
@MapleovBacon Жыл бұрын
One major function of GOG and Epic Launcher is to serve as market competition to Steam, to give Valve external pressure to do things and keep prices low. We get more steam sales and new features since the market competition has existed.
@skoorb132
@skoorb132 Жыл бұрын
The fact that epic games made 32 billion dollars last year and hasn’t used any of it to fix there shit launcher says alot
@_fawkes
@_fawkes Жыл бұрын
2:28 First mention of Epic Games in this Video
@MrInfection
@MrInfection Жыл бұрын
I like steam because you can automatically use proton and don't have to do a day of research on how to get the game to boot on Linux. I have Epic Games installed, but since my video card is 20 years old it physically won't let my use it.
@Moister356
@Moister356 Жыл бұрын
Heroic Launcher has you covered but honestly at that point just use Steam
@haaxxx9
@haaxxx9 Жыл бұрын
WTF, WHAT KIND OF VIDEO CARD ARE YOU USING?!
@realnikobelic
@realnikobelic 12 сағат бұрын
literally the worst launcher i ever used. weird errors that have absolutely no solution, a LOT of crashing, worst speed at anything, randomly deleting games without permission + other files within the game folder. i always have some random bullshit problems with this launcher. like rarely i see a error twice. it's just trash.
@Virtual_Maid_Miyu_Full_Menu
@Virtual_Maid_Miyu_Full_Menu Жыл бұрын
I also hated how when a developer really rubbed it in that there a epic games exclusive (like we get it you got paid the big bucks) it really ruins there reputation cuz by the time your game on steam you lost interest 😅
@xaemusic
@xaemusic Жыл бұрын
Honestly when i see something being an epic games timed exclusive, i just pirate it then buy it on steam later
@darianalexander5503
@darianalexander5503 Жыл бұрын
Its crazy that people get mad at Steam for "monopolistic practices" but the competition doesn't even compare.
@kinetic_krown
@kinetic_krown Жыл бұрын
"I am going to get this day... on day one" -FoekoeGaming 2023
@ProfessionalEepyHead
@ProfessionalEepyHead Жыл бұрын
Epic games fan: I wish we had a good game launcher Steam: my brother in Christ
@klodianakeci7840
@klodianakeci7840 7 ай бұрын
The thing that pisses me off the most is the fact that THEY HAVE NO PP PICTURE. I just want a profile pic on rocket league
@starlitsorrow
@starlitsorrow Жыл бұрын
Steam has one big failure and it's that you can't change your account name and I hate it
@harrykakki1903
@harrykakki1903 Жыл бұрын
The worst part is i lost a game for no reason and i fully lost access 💀 (on epic game store) and then they just said might be incorrect account when in reality i lost access to the game entirely for no reason.
@dannieyebagsz
@dannieyebagsz Жыл бұрын
And they included achievements so late all the cool games dont have em...
@MysticBearKnight
@MysticBearKnight 10 ай бұрын
You can’t even link and re-link your accounts, it’s pathetic! So much for customer satisfaction.
@SnesySnas
@SnesySnas Жыл бұрын
The reason people go to EGS is because MUNEY Fortnite and Unreal Engine money is strong, and any company that is insecure about their product or are desperate for a quick buck will always go to Epic Which is why it's always better to never buy any Epic Exclusives, even after they release on Steam as 90% of the time they're a huge waste of time
@alexmason7393
@alexmason7393 Жыл бұрын
IMO, steam doesn't force to link my steam account to third-party game launcher
@fluxcptndavey4378
@fluxcptndavey4378 Жыл бұрын
NGL although I use the Epic Games Launcher, I do think Epic needs to improve the launcher. I personally would love to just change my PFP on the Launcher.
@AppzyCat
@AppzyCat Жыл бұрын
thou has asked too much
@Maxler5795
@Maxler5795 Жыл бұрын
Literally the only reason that stor is installed is for the free games every thursday at midday.
@vald1559
@vald1559 Жыл бұрын
It's funny how I used to defend the EGS launcher yet I only use it to play Genshin(yeah I'm a loser) and some other free games I actually care for. There will never be a good alternative for steam at least for many decades.
@kamikaze00007
@kamikaze00007 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised I only saw this video just now. Especially since Epic has been forcing users to agree to their user agreements that outright state you do not own the game you just bought, as well as telling you you don't have the rights to any fan art you make just because something in your art belongs to a game on their store.
@RealValkor
@RealValkor Жыл бұрын
The biggest reason I don't use epic games is just because steam is infinitely better, I don't need to switch over... even with the free games lol.
@haaxxx9
@haaxxx9 Жыл бұрын
Deleted my EGS account in 2019 because I keep hearing all the security issues and mainly play it for fortnight which I got quickly bored of it back in 2017 and never touched it again. I still refuse to re-make an EGS account because of "FREE GAMES" which I say I paid $20 for a uTorrent subscription and go on a treasure spree after that.
@Manhackarcadeisfun
@Manhackarcadeisfun Жыл бұрын
No tf2 on epic game store no epic games store.
@Mcquenze
@Mcquenze Жыл бұрын
I actually bought a couple of games from the Epic Store because of the Epic Coupon which was an ok deal. And it is very funny that the deal got worse when they added the shopping cart, in terms of prices and sales unfortunately Epic is the least appealing for now.
@ShaunRoselt
@ShaunRoselt Жыл бұрын
Just wait for Steam version.
@an0bserver2000
@an0bserver2000 Жыл бұрын
darkest dungeon 2 released in early access as an epic exclusive, and the main reason im still waiting for the 1.0 release to play it is cause thats when itll launch on steam lol. my pc isnt great and having the epic games launcher open on my pc makes everything else run slowly as well. its super frustrating.
@lifegrain6092
@lifegrain6092 Жыл бұрын
that's also how hades did it, 1 year of exclusivity of early access and full launch on both EGS and steam this is essentially a loop hole (or hack) for indie devs to have both the exclusivity money and healthy playerbase
@PlatinumAltaria
@PlatinumAltaria Жыл бұрын
If Epic Games was really interested in "competing" they wouldn't have brought exclusivity to PC. No one wants that shit.
@KyleYoung2012
@KyleYoung2012 Жыл бұрын
i dont mind the Epic games store,i like having a variety of stores rather than just one sole store i dont understand why video game systems dont let you install other operating systems so you can switch stores if you want i've never personally had a problem with them or there games maybe its just a me thing
@Soma_Shotgun
@Soma_Shotgun Жыл бұрын
6:25 Not gonna lie, I straight up believed that was a screenshot from youtube for a few seconds.
@goldendodo.
@goldendodo. Жыл бұрын
I only use epic games for the free weekly games
@slime-e-nationz
@slime-e-nationz 9 ай бұрын
Oh boy i hate this launcher why does it ask for my id and password EVERY DAMN TIME? Like hey there! Its me!?
@jakepeng9962
@jakepeng9962 Жыл бұрын
I don't like Epic games at all. They feel so unethical and souless. There tricks and schemes to try get you to switch to it, such as "We made rocket league free! If you downlpad it on epic games store, you get free money!" In reality it is £2 you can only spend on the epic store, and is not enough to buy anything, so to use it you must spend.😢 Also the epic exclusive things are really dumb like you mentioned.
@Striker-rw4rd
@Striker-rw4rd Жыл бұрын
Epic games has the best prices, I don’t even use steam anymore
@knowingbadger
@knowingbadger Жыл бұрын
Man I haven't spent a dime on epic but have over 300 games. They put out good quality games for their free weeks
@TH_Zireael2077
@TH_Zireael2077 Жыл бұрын
Which are, like the video stated, likely already for sale on Steam for a very low price, or end up staying untouched anyway. At that rate just pirate them tbh.
@Exportasjpeg
@Exportasjpeg Жыл бұрын
@@TH_Zireael2077 I'd rather pay zero dollars than buy it on steam. Its literally free.
@AnonVoids
@AnonVoids Жыл бұрын
Epic devs need to learn about background preemptive loading...
@four-en-tee
@four-en-tee Жыл бұрын
The only thing good about Epic is the revenue cut for developers
@chrismiller3548
@chrismiller3548 Жыл бұрын
Dead island is one of those games that's just good for an hour of fun. Everything falls off after the best map in the game, which is the first resort area
@Notllamalord
@Notllamalord Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for devs who get tempted by the 0% fee for going epic games exclusive, it’s practically guaranteed to kill the game
@Tinkuwu
@Tinkuwu Жыл бұрын
Anytime someone comes over to Steam about a game's issues, but they mention the EGS, I simply reply "Go ask on their forums. Oh wait..."
@KyryloMudrokha
@KyryloMudrokha Жыл бұрын
4:03 wrong, minecraft legends is on steam now, not minecraft really, just it's clone, but you got the idea.
@ProbNotCross
@ProbNotCross Жыл бұрын
These are xbox games, so thats why they are on steam
@gryphonkingbros847
@gryphonkingbros847 Жыл бұрын
Dungeons is on there too
@johnnylattarulo6735
@johnnylattarulo6735 Жыл бұрын
5:14 oh look. I see we can have friends list on Epic Games launcher. But I feel that it misses some things, like archivements, community, discussions, and other. And look to the right. Honkai Star Rail... I see Hoyoverse/miHoYo is in love with Epic Games, that's why Genshin Impact and Honkai Star Rail never been released on Steam... Except Honkai Impact 3rd, Honkai Impact 3rd is the only one game who is on Steam... But fortunately for me, Honkai Star Rail is coming on PlayStation, so thanks Hoyoverse, I guess.
@trollgedrip
@trollgedrip Жыл бұрын
only reason I still have the epic games launcher is because I have bloons td6 installed from the free winter sale
@arken2583
@arken2583 9 ай бұрын
A month or two ago, I was going to get UE5 to dig through some game files, and as soon as I saw I needed to ALSO have the Epic Launcher JUST TO INSTALL UE5, I immediately stopped caring. I can literally just go find a file dump online somewhere. The only reason I put in the work to do this kinda thing myself is because I genuinely enjoy seeing the inner-workings of games.
@manub0539
@manub0539 Жыл бұрын
i honestly relate to egs being a potato sack it was so bad that i went out looking for open source launchers and found rare, its pretty much got only the ability to download and load games but its fast and works like a charm!!
@Moister356
@Moister356 Жыл бұрын
what about heroic launcher? it works on Linux too (And the Steam Deck)
@Jacketx
@Jacketx Жыл бұрын
it has next to 0 OPTIONS i can't choose how loud i want the achievement sound to be or if it should even be on at all, so whenever i get an achievement in dying light it just blows my eardrums up, glitches, doesn't load and i have a black square just hanging on my screen for a couple of seconds.
@jaysanj152
@jaysanj152 Жыл бұрын
You can call out the store whatever you want. But the amount of actual quality AAA games that'll go on FREE alone is the sole reason i can tolerate it amongst other launchers and somewhat makes it worth it,Especially considering how stupidly expensive they are in other regions. Like i don't remember Steam/GOG gave away games like the entire Bioshock collection,Prey,Sonic Mania,Metro,Nioh,Wolfenstien,Control,Death Stranding etc for Free. and Ya know what ? I kinda wanna give some credit and thank EPIC for letting me play those gems.
@randomicatto
@randomicatto Жыл бұрын
I only claim free games that have Multiplayer support, if it's single player only then I'll just go sail the seas.
@utfigyii5987
@utfigyii5987 Жыл бұрын
Yeah i rather buy the games on steam sale than get them for free from ”epic”
@GuerovaTheGreat
@GuerovaTheGreat Жыл бұрын
​@@utfigyii5987 Steam is ALWAYS the best bet. The thing with epic is that it's pretty bloody good when you are in a pretty specific situation to buy something from steam. Like your country, let's say Argentina. For example, RE8 in Steam Arg. Costs around ARS$3.400 pesos, plus the taxes that apply to your purchase, it increase it's price to ARS$4098,36 pesos (if i'm not wrong) which roughly could be translated to $18.7992 US dollars. (Again, if i'm not wrong). Not to mention that Capcom was kind enough to rise their prices here due to people using Argentina as a way to buy capcom newest games at a cheaper price, but also Argentina, being as self destructive as it is when it comes to economy, making steam remove various paying methods to buy on steam. TL:DR; Use steam as your main gaming platform, use Epic as your random Free Triple A drug seller. And remember. Don't drink and drive.
@LegendsDEMON386
@LegendsDEMON386 Жыл бұрын
Excellent points about having useless launchers. Origin sucked it was just the Battlefield launcher until they came out with the EA Play launcher which brings some substance to the table with more games and a subscription service to effectively "rent" games. Microsoft store was ditched for the Xbox launcher and again had subscription services to play games. GOG is nice cause they have an awesome roster of classic games and they offer numerous compatibility patches for them all as well as the DRM Free stuff. Epic is just like you said the Fortnite launcher w/ free games you can't even set a custom profile picture on there at least the last time I checked which is so bizarre.
@multistuff9831
@multistuff9831 Жыл бұрын
Recently I wanted to install the evil dead game that came out recently, and since its an epic exclusive, I ended up doing so after ages of groaning. Anyway, I have a monthly internet data limit so I kinda have to budget it especially since my family is in the equation, and… when installing a game, it doesnt tell you the filesize. Haha… lack of basic features… haha… Even if i didnt have a monthly limit… why would I not want to know how much space a game will take up on my disk? Steams free space/game size is literally perfect and not that hard to implement bitch why do you not have it
@Thornskade
@Thornskade Жыл бұрын
Yeah that really annoys me. I have limited space on my Steam Deck and SD cards especially so not knowing how big the install is is just dumb
@Psycho250785
@Psycho250785 Жыл бұрын
Epic Games wanted to make “anti-Steam” store. And they made it… but turns out no one wants to use it for some reason. :)
@haaxxx9
@haaxxx9 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately people use the EGS mainly for 2 things, Free games and/or fortnight. Which both of those things to me are obsolete and rather own a Arcade1Up Ridge Racer cabinet then ever touching the EGS launcher ever again.
@ImTheDogeKing
@ImTheDogeKing Жыл бұрын
Epic games: “Yo man can I copy your homework?” Steam: “yeah just change it up a bit so it doesn’t look obvious you copied” Epic games: ok *makes epic games launcher*
@KompadoodleLEL
@KompadoodleLEL Жыл бұрын
wtf does this comment mean? there plenty of launchers lmao
@vepply
@vepply Жыл бұрын
💀💀that is NOT why it's bad
@bobgoo1441
@bobgoo1441 Жыл бұрын
It would be way better if they did actually copy from steam
@jaysanj152
@jaysanj152 Жыл бұрын
Now if only Steam copies EPIC's homework and start giving away actual quality gems to play rather than shovelwares per week and the cycle will be complete.
@CoolSs
@CoolSs Жыл бұрын
3 years for shopping cart
@dagamerturtle
@dagamerturtle Жыл бұрын
*sighs* *puts on eyepatch and goes aboard a ship...*
@mint5438
@mint5438 Жыл бұрын
It's one thing stealing a game from Nintendo or a shitty company, but Dead Island 2 dosent deserve piracy just yet bro.
@maxthecreature4674
@maxthecreature4674 Жыл бұрын
Foekoes job is basically mostly complaining
@BuhUhNuhUh
@BuhUhNuhUh Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s actually getting pretty annoying
@Piefruchini
@Piefruchini Жыл бұрын
​@@BuhUhNuhUh Then don't watch him. Shrimple as that
@BuhUhNuhUh
@BuhUhNuhUh Жыл бұрын
@@Piefruchini Already unsubscribed when I made this comment, I won’t
@ArvolyXSL
@ArvolyXSL Жыл бұрын
The only reason I use Epic Games is because of the free weekly games. If it didn't have it, I would never have installed it.
@monty6338
@monty6338 Жыл бұрын
Achievement
@wickendiana8310
@wickendiana8310 Жыл бұрын
Akchivement?
@gryphonkingbros847
@gryphonkingbros847 Жыл бұрын
You mean Akchivement?
@Artisan_SD
@Artisan_SD Жыл бұрын
Times EGS exclusive = permanent high seas exclusive for me.
@sgtsnokeem1139
@sgtsnokeem1139 Жыл бұрын
Fkepic ;)
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