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@JimSterling8 жыл бұрын
Gotta agree this is the best summary of the whole racket.
@Snowfire69168 жыл бұрын
+Jim Sterling So speaketh Jim Fucking Sterling Son.
@npalsensei8 жыл бұрын
+Snowfire Thank God for him.
@sharpygsxr8 жыл бұрын
+Jim Sterling Led here from twitter, hes speaks the truth hes Jim fucking Sterling son!
@Ianformed8 жыл бұрын
+Jim Sterling He's missing the point that Fine Bros. can't seem to portray. It's all about DMCA. Question for you Jim. How long have you been on youtube? I've been here late 2007. :) P.S. *sarcasm* I'm looking to trademark Ianformed just to mess up Ian Hecox. lol
@Doctorolivercook8 жыл бұрын
+Jim Sterling It certainly is a pretty cohesive, clear, concise summary. And the Fail Bros? They really are failing. And thank you for bringing up this explanation Jim, and God? I thank you... for Jim Fucking Sterling, Son.
@SovietWomble5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video man. I'm quickly becoming obsessed with your channel.
@rafaelmarkos44894 жыл бұрын
Wait, Womble is here? What is this, a crossover episode?
@j.lucasdecastroaraujo7614 жыл бұрын
@@rafaelmarkos4489 Jim Sterling, SovietWomble, LilDeuceDeuce, Gaming Historian. Folding Ideas attracts great channels.
@moredetonation37554 жыл бұрын
This is how the left wins Jeremy
@Jack-Corvus3 жыл бұрын
Fast forward a bit now Womble has made some 5 (Soviet) star video essays.
@cooberr3 жыл бұрын
based
@TahJakester8 жыл бұрын
"Congratulations, that's racketeering." Now that I think about it, the whole REACT WORLD concept definitely falls into the realm of "protection" offered by mob bosses.
@gelatinocyte62703 жыл бұрын
REACT RACKETEERING
@LilDeuceDeuce8 жыл бұрын
Your discussion around 5:55 onward of how Fine Bros are muddling business relationships & creator-fan relationships is spot on. The only positive comments in the first React World announcement video were fans saying things like "Wow I'm11 can I still take part in this!??" I'm not saying it's impossible for an 11 year old to make good content. But in theory the only reason you'd want to buy into React World brand identity--both as a content 'consumer' and as a content creator--is because it provides some guarantee of consistency/quality. This is like Burger King handing out BK logos to every kid with a lemonade stand. I've read a lot of outraged takes on the React World situation but I really have to commend you because this is one of the most well thought-out I've seen.
@SirSpamaIot8 жыл бұрын
+LilDeuceDeuce But their own website says that they are not going to let you use their brands or logos, even if you requisition a license, so comparison to franchising is N/A.
@duanedevils8 жыл бұрын
+Sir Spamalot Which leads to the question of why would someone want to be a part of this then? Their logos and brand are probably the only things that would get people to join up considering the built in audience that entails.
@JustRelaxingBeats8 жыл бұрын
+LilDeuceDeuce "This is like Burger King handing out BK logos to every kid with a lemonade stand" This is like Burger King handing out BK logos to every kid with a burger stand and taking half of their money because they can say it's Burger King.
@LilDeuceDeuce8 жыл бұрын
+Sir Spamalot I'm basing it on this FAQ on their website that says they'll give you access to their logos/branding/animation intro packages: www.finebrosent.com/reactworldfaq/
@Crusader10898 жыл бұрын
+LilDeuceDeuce When looking at the comments I wasn't expecting to see Lildeucedeuce. I have no further comment, it's just nice to see the bigger youtubers behaving like normal youtubers.
@Harbinger_CR8 жыл бұрын
I like this guy, he actually explained it well in detail instead of screaming in anger for 10mins about how angry he is about the Finebros like most people.
@hellenjane8 жыл бұрын
That's the best explanation I ever heard of so far.
@peter69aolcom918 жыл бұрын
+hellenjane (Gabatha Productions) Definitely, this guy is pretty smart. Worth a sub.
@FraustDogger8 жыл бұрын
+hellenjane (Gabatha Productions) Too bad ratings are disabled for his videos. It is going to keep a lot of people from investing in a 10min video. It doesn't make any sense to me, I think he does a great job and doesn't have any reason to worry about dislikes. EDIT: Now he has likes/dislikes enabled which is great. It lets people know the video has support before they invest time into it and it gives him the praise he deserves for making good videos. Thumbs up from me.
@Zennistrad18 жыл бұрын
+Fraust Dogger He's attracted a few dedicated trolls due to some of the more contriversial things he's said.
@peter69aolcom918 жыл бұрын
Fraust Dogger as a guy who's been downvoted to death in everything I've ever done, I'd tell him to just embrace it and do his own thing.
@analukatmj8 жыл бұрын
+hellenjane (Gabatha Productions) Let's share that please
@GamingHistorian8 жыл бұрын
Excellent summary of the issues, thank you for making this.
@booradley34008 жыл бұрын
Finally, a guy in a beanie I can trust.
@landfish7a8 жыл бұрын
+johnny3400 He kinda looks like a fusion of the brothers, but less... homely.
@booradley34008 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Fish (Werdnae) yeah, kinda like they had a kid that grew up to hate it's fathers.
@MrPedromuriel8 жыл бұрын
Hey, what about Ethan from h3h3?
@booradley34008 жыл бұрын
+Pedor oh yeah! How could I forget?! But yes, him too. Papa bless!
@tranceaddict118 жыл бұрын
+Pedor The real beanie master
@camiblack13 жыл бұрын
To give some context, this was relevant in 2016 when the Fine Brothers made their announcement. I think Dan forgot something about it. It was the last gasp of the attempts at a multi-tuber thing (Think That Guy with the Glasses/Channel Awesome, Normal Boots, and such) and had already come after just about all of those were either failing (thanks to your support from Patreon) or had long since faded into irrelevancy (the two that spun off from TGWTG, everything NB produced except the Grumps). It was out and out crowdsourcing content, at a time when the whole idea was literally dying. we didn't know it in 2016, but the whole thing they were banking on was only about 6 months from being buried, but if we had paid attention we would have seen it coming with things like the main source for Channel Awesome being nothing more than an over glorified aggregation site. All in all, like their capitalizing on react videos, they were too little, too blunt, and too late.
@DavidDagninoV7 жыл бұрын
Being originally from Venezuela I have the perfect example of the real world of what you are saying by "actually not protecting it". In Venezuela it is common to park on the street because there are no parkimeters and there are not enough private parking lots. So far this is just like a regular non-downtown street on any city. The problem is that the minute you park your car some guy will touch your windows and ask you for money for he to protect your car. If you pay him ( and it is like ten times the money you would pay in a private parking) then you are free from thugs opening your car. If you don't pay him then his very own gang will crush your windows, scratch the paint job and steal your stereo. Sometimes even the tires, as tires are Really Expensive in Venezuela. When you return, you will see the guy sitting in his chair next to your car and he will then unapologetically tell you you have it deserved because you didn't pay him to "protect" his car. And the police will never step into this because the parking spaces on street are gang-controlled and they in raw number are more people than police officers. So you have to either pay the guy YOU KNOW is a gang members to "protect your car" meaning he will not rob you or be sure you will probably not have a car to return to.
@riley83854 жыл бұрын
I know this is a very old comment, but I just wanted to tell you that exact same thing happens in Argentina, and the police doesn't intervene because the gangs likely either work for the police or bribe them.
@iusethisnameformygoogleacc10133 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's exactly what he compared it to. The technical word for that kind of protection scheme (most stereotypically seen with gangs and small businesses which will be smashed up if they fail to pay 'protection' money) along with everything else in the same general category is Racketeering.
@BrotherAlpha8 жыл бұрын
There should be a penalty paid if you do a false DMCA claim. That would end a whole lot of the problems.
@AislinnBMln8 жыл бұрын
+BrotherAlpha While there aren't penalties for false DMCA claims on copyright grounds, the DMCA does *not* cover trademark claims - and what Fine Bros filed for is a trademark, not a copyright. In fact, if they use the DMCA claim system to attempt copyright takedowns based on the React trademark, they are opening themselves to significant penalties.
@BrotherAlpha8 жыл бұрын
AislinnBMln "...the DMCA does not cover trademark claims..." Right. My mistake. In my defense, this system is really complicated.
@AislinnBMln8 жыл бұрын
+BrotherAlpha Honestly, that's a valid defense. The DMCA itself is a lumbering mess, and with almost two decades of legal precedents, case law, and so on, it's very easy to get confused and lost.
@antivanti8 жыл бұрын
+AislinnBMln But what about the system KZbin have implemented to facilitate the DMCA claims? Can trademark owners use it to flag things? I suspect that it can be because it seems to be VERY flawed and badly automated. And if so the legal difference may be there but the practical difference might not be. I don't know enough about the KZbin implementation to say for sure though.
@CloudSato8 жыл бұрын
+Anders Öhlund With how KZbin's acting right now, I wouldn't be shocked if a US D.A. was starting or is putting together a RICO case right now.
@WelsknightGaming8 жыл бұрын
Well-informed and level-headed. Good job.
@ilexdiapason2 жыл бұрын
hermit spotted in the wild through time and space :O
@pablovicentedotcom8 жыл бұрын
Finally a 'drama free' explanation, thanks.
@Triggerhappytel8 жыл бұрын
This video is so great. You explain the issues clearly and succinctly, and I love that your number of subscribers has tripled in the wake of it.
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan4 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video!
@caramelldansen22043 жыл бұрын
why would you watch this 5 years after it's relevant? lol
@lizardlegend423 жыл бұрын
@@caramelldansen2204 why wouldn't you?
@mariar.f.16862 жыл бұрын
@@caramelldansen2204 Because it is an excellent video.
@Zelmarked8 жыл бұрын
Saddest part of this is we have to defend people who make reaction videos.
@Lemmy_Kilturtle8 жыл бұрын
+69Zelmarked69 Haha that's what I've been thinking. Still, what the bros are doing is too shady to let slip, even if we have to defend those weird reaction video making people.
@Lemmy_Kilturtle8 жыл бұрын
+69Zelmarked69 Haha that's what I've been thinking. Still, what the bros are doing is too shady to let slip, even if we have to defend those weird reaction video making people.
@tiseenderwelke8 жыл бұрын
+69Zelmarked69 its all for the greater cause (or how u say that i am not english native) mate but i understand you completly :)
@Cambuscuscubed7 жыл бұрын
I took off my headphones for a minute to answer my phone and when I put them back on all I heard was: "Given the Two Girls One Cup example I already mentioned." 10/10
@darkojan144 жыл бұрын
I WANNA GO BACK AT THIS SCANDAL IM TIRED OF FASCISTS
@jamieheron92522 жыл бұрын
2022: hold my beer
@ng.tr.s.p.12542 жыл бұрын
Cryptobros: hold my speculative monkey jpeg
@apollohermano85012 жыл бұрын
@@Norcat10 the Republicans (and the dems through a technicality)
@shinyumbreon6966 жыл бұрын
Dan, you seriously make the best KZbin drama videos--mostly because you remove all the drama and just explain what's going on and why. Thanks!
@paradoxacres10638 жыл бұрын
*Amazing* video. I think most of us watching definitely learned a thing or two about the nature of this business. Well done, Foldable.
@RGVZGM8 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you're wearing the beard, the glasses and the hat. Way to take all of their personal facial branding!
@TheKangarooBeard8 жыл бұрын
Most in depth and insightful video done so far about React World, really enjoyed the video.
@TrixFarrar8 жыл бұрын
This is, by far, the most reasoned and well thought out explanation of this whole fiasco that I've seen, so far. Thank you very much for taking the time to calmly explain the difference between concept, format and brand. Not that it matters, but I think that you and I basically arrived at the same place -- but you're much more eloquent about it. I can't thank you enough.
@ThePromisedWLAN8 жыл бұрын
0:42 They *HAD* 14 million subscribers.
@VaporDragon18 жыл бұрын
+ThePromisedWLAN yep i agree they HAD 14 million subscribers
@michealcroes33778 жыл бұрын
+JoyfullJuneBug they lost 447634 as of feb the fifth and are still losing subs.
@GANTZ100pts8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Croes And its still going down. Not as fast as a few days ago, but still going down. im also wondering how many of the subs they have are from dead accounts. IE: People that lost there password and just made a new account then resubscribed on the new one. Or dont go to youtube anymore.
@BlumenCT8 жыл бұрын
Sadly it's back past 14 million, but the hit was still enormous. If World never happened, they could have been at 15 or 15 and a half by this point in time. Their sister channels see surprisingly few subs though, especially since REACT has a lot of their better content.
@faustokruze69428 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure React World was cancelled. That's why. www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/43sjmj/the_fine_brothers_announce_cancellation_of_react/
@KieranJB8 жыл бұрын
After so much blind outrage, this is such an informative and well-informed video. Really useful stuff, thanks!
@AquarNL8 жыл бұрын
So far the one good thing that came about the whole Finebro's fiasco is that I've found allot of smaller KZbin channels such as yours that i found very interesting and made me want to subscribe to them such as yours. Keep up the good work i thoroughly enjoyed this, very informative.
@troberts18 жыл бұрын
As many others have said, this is the best explanation I've seen. It sums up perfectly how React World would have benefited no one except the Fine Bros.
@FoolyCoolyBlackLagoony8 жыл бұрын
Punished Dan, a hero denied of his foldable human.
@Skux7208 жыл бұрын
"They have 14 million subscribers" Not anymore lol
@lemeres24788 жыл бұрын
+Skux720 Hey, the 14 bit is right. There just isn't any 0's after it anymore.
@BullrockMcHammergeil8 жыл бұрын
13,901,067 as of this second
@itsFiftyy8 жыл бұрын
+BullrockMcHammergeil :]
@desertraven8 жыл бұрын
+Skux720 "Not anymore lol" Yeah... because 13.9 is such a huge dip.
@fogas128 жыл бұрын
desertraven they've lost 200k in a day, if this carries on a huge amount of their subscriber will be gone
@Dracus648 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic. Most in-depth video I've seen explaining the whole debacle.
@noahparker89758 жыл бұрын
the unevenness of his beard is what gets me but other then that it's a solid video that explains the topic quite well
@nZero19948 жыл бұрын
This is excellent, spectacullar and pristine explanation from a person that understands something so deeply he can deconstruct it and thoroughly explain it to others without missing a single comma of a situation. Amazing...
@BrisCassa8 жыл бұрын
Reacteering? Fascinating stuff, and interesting vid.
@SASSweetassin8 жыл бұрын
You, my good sir, are brilliant. This is definitely one of the most informative video on the subject Ive seen so far. Very intelligent commentary - something refreshing to find on youtube.
@CazTheGamerGuy8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis of this arse-pull that is React World. One could say it was... Fine. Bro.
@SamuelFister8 жыл бұрын
This is spelled out so well! You did an awesome job discussing this, and I agree with you 100%. You can't brand a concept. It'd be like Cartoon Network trying to claim the rights to " being station that plays cartoons". They can certainly license the specific shows and presentation format, but they aren't going to stop Nickelodean or Warner Brothers from playing cartoons. Well done sir! I applaud your intelligence and insight!
@nathanhuff96067 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best channels on this website. I learn so much from watching you. I feel like I gain something from watching your videos. To me that is what makes a good channel.
@sandrin02 жыл бұрын
Man, remember when this was a thing that was happening? Nuts
@MPLoura2 жыл бұрын
I feel so old.
@ergzaynone44998 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome breakdown. I've been following this for a while but my background isn't in Licensing/Brands/etc it's in Science and Engineering. This really layed out what's going to be happening here.
@abraxaspreuler15498 жыл бұрын
Of all the videos I have seen as a reaction to the Fine Brothers story this here has hit all marks:It has an apropiate tone,It lays out all facts in a best to neutral wayIt is thinking throuh the consequences of the issues at handIt is presented in an enjoyable and entertaining way Thank you for publishing it.Well done
@JumpingMountainGoats8 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I've found that explains the situation further than "her her you can't react to thing!!" Great analysis and thanks for the video!
@speespa88127 жыл бұрын
Dan, I just found your channel and it is great. Keep it up so that I can keep learning things that are actually interesting to know. You'll have 200k subs by this summer. Thanks for the hard work!
@aboot27548 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so fucking amazing, as well as your tweets. Since you use facts and cover interesting topics, of course you get attacked by people. Good on you for keeping up and covering these sorts of topics anyway.
@colink89118 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, very well explained and you got your point across really well. Earned a new subscriber man. Keep up the great work!
@SilverMiraii8 жыл бұрын
I was nodding my head throughout the video, I resonate with everything you said. I didn't think these guys were so greedy, but after watching their video that is now removed, I fully understhood what they are trying to do, they got tired of making so much content, but also got greedy because any amount of money is not enough for a lot of people, the more money you get the more money you want. So they thought they're being clever and tried to exploit people. Any content people make similar to theirs, they get a cut, some small amount of money from here, some from there, with so many people doing it, they'd be making a lot of money without putting in any effort. But people weren't as stupid and naive as they thought, so they had to cancel everything, otherwise they'd be loosing a lot of money, I'm pretty sure they didn't back up because they care about people, they were just sacred of loosing their subscribers thus loosing money. Myself, I unsubscribed and will not subscribe again, not because that's what a lot of people are doing right now, but because I find them disgusting and greedy.
@HereComesPopoBawa8 жыл бұрын
Woohoo! Finally, more Folding Ideas. I was worried about if/when there would be more. Definitely watching this later today.
@xXSupreme45Xx8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, the most informative one I have came across.
@nagashi0178 жыл бұрын
This video is the best explanation for all the fine bros drama so far... great work!!
@MurasakiYugata8 жыл бұрын
Great explanation and insight! I think "racketeering" is a really good choice of words and sums up a lot of what's so icky about this whole thing.
@bingfannumberone6 жыл бұрын
I like how your hat goes one way and your beard goes the other way 😍
@WukhNetwork8 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, i have to say, this is probably one of the most well explained videos regarding the FineBros mess. Thank you!
@LonePianoist8 жыл бұрын
You have a lovely beard
@FlyingOverTr0ut8 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Thank you!
@cand7e7ack8 жыл бұрын
I like this explanation, damn crystal clear and now it really makes sense, in a standpoint its still business. thanks man. subbing.
@thenlbs8 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Best explanation I've heard so far.
@hookedonfandom2 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I ever saw on this channel. Been following ever since. Glad to see Dan having so much success now!
@omegahaxors9-114 жыл бұрын
The magic word is rent-seeking
@cmrdmd18064 жыл бұрын
i love your content!! alsways so thoughtful and well researched
@michaelpreller40258 жыл бұрын
wow, standing ovation. I know you can't see it but I am giving out one. Excellent job on laying out everything and explaining to people what it really is.
@warfez57684 жыл бұрын
Remember back in the good old days when this was the worst KZbin controversy at the time...
@wilsoncito8 жыл бұрын
That a great explanation. I think you've given the most rational (and unemotional) and yet compelling explanation in this topic. I'm not affected by this but appreciate someone like you taking such a clear stance.
@janberkemeier74062 жыл бұрын
Looking back all these years later, I find it kind of fascinating that the fucking Fine Bros. of all things made such a sizable portion of KZbin-based content creators stand up as one man and go "This is not okay, we need to address this.". The only things I can think of to come even remotely close to this kind of universal disgust in KZbin circles would be the 2018 Rewind (which barely counts) and Doug's "the Wall"-review, and with Channel Awesome having been garbage for years by that point the reactions to that particular trainwreck were much less surprising in their near universal contempt.
@CrossKnights7 жыл бұрын
Wow. A lot of this could be applied to most MCNs on KZbin. They used to be a little bit hard to get into them and because of that you might actually get some support. But then they open the floodgates to everyone and suddenly tens of thousands of people were in many MCNs. Suddenly you couldn't contact them personally, the only service that they then provided you was taking a portion of your money.
@thewolfofthestars18475 жыл бұрын
I was subscribed to a bunch of B-and-C-tier let's players back in 2014 (what can I say, I was a weirdo shut-in teen) and I remember watching collaborative videos where a group of them would talk about their Machinima contracts finally running out. A lot of them revamped their channels around that time, new intro/outro, channel redesign, expansion of content and whatnot. They were set free. It was a bit surreal to watch.
@drstevebrule698 жыл бұрын
EVERYONE needs to see this video. Perfectly explained. I hope this reaches as many people as possible and makes an impact in fighting against Fine Bros Entertainment and their disgusting practices.
@HelloPatch8 жыл бұрын
This is some good shit. I love your format. Subscribed!
@Raientai7 жыл бұрын
I started out mad, calmed down with more understanding, and now full understanding has mad me even angrier
@idontcare67368 жыл бұрын
This is unique in the world of "react to finebros" video fad in that it not only says what it does but how it does it and why it does it and how it will affect those who do it. This is also noticeably different from the videos filled with insults and expletives, no matter how creative and amusing those are. This is a high quality video with insight into this process. I applaud you.
@flushnutch16058 жыл бұрын
Their only real crime is being greedy. I don't think they were planning to start a dictatorship over ALL reaction videos, so all the flak they're getting in kinda undeserving. But really i'm glad they're getting all the hate for it, it's about time youtubers with tens of millions of subscribers realize they're not invincible, and they CAN lose subs.
@PauLtus_B7 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say being greedy is an "only". Greed is pretty much is the prime source of any immoral behaviour. The result is straight up free riding on smaller youtube channels who gain nothing from it and need that money a whole lot more than they do.
@ekki19934 жыл бұрын
They were literally trying to do racketeering and/or rip off their fans for profits. Saying they were "just being greedy" as if that excuses anything is extremely dumb. Just try using that dumb argument with any form of theft and see how dumb it is. I know it's an old comment but it's just SUCH a stupid point made to relativize the potentially harmful actions of people with power (let's be real having over 10 million subscribers gives you more reach than some countries' national broadcast networks) and it pisses me off.
@gothboithick Жыл бұрын
amazing video. love your content, you explain things so well and it’s so easy to understand
@KurtisRainboltGreene8 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, they should have hired you to handle it. Amazingly explained.
@WritingPursuits8 жыл бұрын
Well done, sir. Fantastic explanation. Thank you for breaking it down for the rest of us.
@DrummingOtaku8 жыл бұрын
This is very sad. Thank you Dan for the very detailed analysis of the situation. Do you think the negative backlash will have any affect on this situation or is it too late?
@BD128 жыл бұрын
6:42 the part that ooged me out the most about their scheme
@SwichKnight8 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. This is a level headed response that hits every important point.
@OfficerCrunk8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to explain all of this Folding, mucho gracias!
@KraigOliver7 жыл бұрын
My new favourite youtube channel. Can i license your format?
@georgeshibley95298 жыл бұрын
11/10 Thank you for not doing the typical circle-jerk reaction and touching on the same points as everyone else. I hate the Fine Bro's but I don't necessarily want to watch a bunch of famous KZbinrs Make money from shitting on them all day as well. I watch videos because I think about making content one day. This is the type of analysis that not only allows me to know what happened, but in a way that is beneficial to me so I don't make the same mistakes.
@linuxsport8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time and making this informative video.
@KemalElmizan8 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, liked and subscribed. Not only because you gave a superb explanation, but also because you mention Indonesia :)
@Hrothmeir7 жыл бұрын
Since we're talking about people basically skimming ideas to make money, it would be remiss of me not to point out that Mike Judge skimmed the idea from Superman III.
@RVGENomini8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for having eyes that can both look at the camera simultaneously.
@CrestfallenLizard2 жыл бұрын
this video got me more into Modest Mouse, which is my biggest takeaway from it. i knew Float On and Dashboard, but never really looked into them more until i heard Dan say, "In the words of Modest Mouse, 'it takes more time to make a fake'" which i thought was a good line so i looked it up and got more into them. also, wow, i can't believe this was six years ago. what a simpler time it seemed to be when it came to online controversy.
@jacksonoakley22648 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear your take on how KZbin handles copyright claims in general, because I think it's an important factor behind why the Fine Bros are able to get away with this (or, at least, why they think they can). KZbin obviously isn't meticulously evaluating every individual copyright claim and deciding whether it has a legitimate basis based on actual copyright law, or else the Fine Bros' threats to take down any unlicensed knockoffs would be baseless. But KZbin can't be completely indiscriminately taking down all videos that contain copyrighted content either; otherwise, the Fine Bros' own videos would be at risk.
@SourBitters8 жыл бұрын
The main thing I'm wondering now is if they did this on accident or on purpose. This seems like a mistake a stupid enough person could make.
@wwelss8 жыл бұрын
+SourBitters I really want to believe that they made a stupid mistake on this one, and didn't think this through at all. Just they way they represented this idiotic idea makes me hopeful that it just might be a big fat mistake...
@vitorgbg258 жыл бұрын
+Ella Page if they did though, by now they shouldve realised what they did, and instead of that stupid video they posted, they wouldve posted and actual apology and scrapped their plans.
@bowmanruto8 жыл бұрын
+SourBitters "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" apply's in this case imo
@wwelss8 жыл бұрын
vitorgbg25 Exactly. Now that they definitely know why their idea sucks, they should absolutely apologize and give up that idea.
@analukatmj8 жыл бұрын
+SourBitters It's funny how they are just acting like nothing happened, it's like they don't care about what their own subscribers think about this situation."We can do what we want, you're not going to stop us".
@Bhchurchil428 жыл бұрын
Spot on, my man. How do you not have more subs
@real_thanu8 жыл бұрын
I got a Vsource feel from this video! Good Job! Subscribed :D
@RGVZGM8 жыл бұрын
Also, the plot of Office Space is basically the plot of Superman 3.
@RobertShoemake8 жыл бұрын
This is the best take on the situation so far! you have gained a fan and subscriber!
@clubparty448 жыл бұрын
You just earned yourself another subscriber. Thanks for this.
@ThunderChanter8 жыл бұрын
Share this every where. An extremely well done explanation of what is going on and why it's bad for everyone.
@Kragatar8 жыл бұрын
More people need to see this video.
@BourneFighting8 жыл бұрын
This was absolutely the best commentary and explanation of the situation so far.
@LogicGated2 жыл бұрын
Man I remember when this was a huge deal.
@kiloalphahotel53544 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid. Always great.
@VerneWilliams8 жыл бұрын
You have my attention Dan! Subscribed
@TheRealIanRojo6 жыл бұрын
Hello there, new fan here; I've just found your channel and binge watched a whole lot of episodes. I'm commenting on this video to ask if it would be possible for you to do a similar episode on Simple Pickup's "Jumpcut Academy". I've looked in-depth into their program and it seems that it's exploitative nature is so pervasive that it effectively silences opposition from every angle. I feel that this channel would be more than competent to tackle this subject and fill a seemingly currently existing information void within the platform in question: KZbin. Regardless, I would like to thank you for your time in creating purposeful and in-depth content. Good day.
@m.3.3.w8 жыл бұрын
Immediately subbed. Great thought out video!
@monkeeshrines8 жыл бұрын
This is a very well presented explanation of the problems with the REACT debacle. I don't think that the Fine Bros intend to be bad people or take advantage, but they just don't really know what the idea of them franchising out, as it were, means in regards of how internet content will be presented and produced. And I agree that their "product" is basically just a broad kind of thing, one that existed before they had their various reaction series. Yes, it's worrisome, and I am glad that the Fine Bros had this idea, and I'm glad for the backlash to it. Content creators who have ideas and formats and such needed this to happen, needed this conversation to get going, and needed it to be very loud and public so everyone knows that it is a terrible idea to apply to something so broad. If it wasn't the Fine Bros, it would have been someone else.
@emilioeusse8 жыл бұрын
Best explanation I have heard...thanks
@xIMEPICx18 жыл бұрын
the best explanation iv seen on youtube of this hole thing