Book Club Is A Theatrical Made-For-TV Movie: A Vlog

[@j-money2337]

In a certain sense I think not having read the book and pretending to know what it’s about is the most accurate representation of a book club

[@briansager3744]

You know I've watched all your videos and I'M NOT ANY BETTER AT FOLDING! Not anything. Not paper or sheets or anything. You've given me no new ideas on the subject.

[@folstag6350]

Brian Sager yea, it's a very clickbait channel

[@huoshewu]

It's only about IDEAS that fold. Or How to fold ideas. Not actual things. Abstract folding. Mental origami. Like Miagi training. You wax on and wax off so that the fight goes smoothly sometime later in the third act.

[@briansager3744]

huoshewu wut?

[@canadmexi]

Brian Sager He has a puppet cardboard strawman named Foldy.

[@adrienfraser5990]

If you think they're bluffing or you have good cards, then don't fold

[@Narokkurai]

It's actually really funny that you bring this up, because I work at an independent theater, and Book Club was probably one of the most profitable movies we've ever shown. Period. Like you said, we got a great deal with the distributor, and even as crowds came and went for other movies, Book Club always held steady. Lot of old people still like to go to indie theaters. LOT of old people. We ran that movie for almost two months straight.

[@brendanrouth3807]

"But they're old" "You mean like 32?" "Older" "37?" "Oooolder" Thank you Dan for this exchange.

[@rusted_ursa]

Brendan Routh I am 32, and I just about died laughing.

[@andrewollmann304]

Nilmon Well, in movies (and in real life, if we’re being honest), we don’t expect 50+ year olds to discuss sex. When they do, it’s kinda refreshing.

[@lannadelarosa]

Nilman, it is a well-known issue/joke that Hollywood likes to pretend actresses no longer exist past 40 years old, infamously parodied in Amy Schumer's "Last Fuckable Day" skit.

[@marionsousagraca2031]

It's funny because Dan *is* 37

[@Genevieve1023]

I thought he was going to say "You mean like the Golden Girls".

[@Eryncerise]

The bit where you righteously call the movie out for talking about a "hot chapter" that obviously takes place way before the actual saucy bits... That part just gets me for whatever reason. I love it. 😂

[@Zeta825]

ErynCerise I died laughing during that bit😂😂😂😂

[@Mjhaider1985]

same😂

[@RoboZombie777]

You know Dan would probably hate Love Live right?

[@Eryncerise]

I'm actually very curious what he would make of it, positive or negative! There's plenty of both good and bad in it to talk about I feel. Even if he came out very negative on it, I'd be interested to hear that take because I don't like to pretend there's nothing wrong with the show or the franchise as a whole (quite the opposite). I'm working on an article myself actually that will get into my complicated feelings on the good and bad aspects of the franchise.

[@RoboZombie777]

ErynCerise Anime is bad

[@poego6045]

I think what sucks is that movies like Book Club, in trying to normalize the completely natural act of having sex in old age, make it into a complete joke because of the execution

[@MiloKuroshiro]

It doesn't try to normalize. It uses as a punchline. It's the opossite.

[@DingoTheDemon]

I would say this is similar to how there's a cultural facade of Big Bang Theory making nerds and geeks cool, when it functionally does the opposite by making them out to be pathetic stereotypes, and the irony is that I know real people who self-identify as a nerd and don't see how terrible the show is because they're just like "haha lol star wars reference! I get it xD"

[@goosegas2087]

@@DingoTheDemon Is it literally star wars they're clapping at? That's like, the most surface level nerd thing ever. And they call themselves nerds...

[@gothboithick]

@@goosegas2087 Star Wars is pretty damn nerdy, in 2022. i’d say Marvel movies are the most surface level nerd stuff to be into.

[@goosegas2087]

@@gothboithick Maybe I would agree with that if I didn't see star wars everywhere.

[@carricknisbet9019]

My mother is currently watching this and I can hear her laughing through multiple rooms and doors. I'm happy for her.

[@maddieb.4282]

This KZbin video or the movie? 😂

[@Moonbeam143]

I never knew that the plan from "The Producers" was really a thing movie makers did.

[@TheGeorgeD13]

Oh, yeah. I made a short career of doing exactly that in my time. You can make pretty good money from it. I still get checks in the mail from these kinds of movies being on TV every month. That kind of model started dying out in the late-2000s and now it's popping back up again for some reason.

[@TheGeorgeD13]

Not only do they do this with movies, but "The Producers" method is actually used for putting on stage shows too. I knew a few in that racket. Life imitates art and art imitates life.

[@TheGeorgeD13]

@@lulucool45 Technically it doesn't work anymore. Or the way they've been doing it for the last little while. Some people have been sued and gotten arrested and everything. The movie version of this whole thing is way more ethical in comparison. Usually the idea was to put on a show and take the investors money and only put the show up for a week and putting zero effort into the show itself. Which is essentially what the plot of the producers was. The money is made from pre-sales and first week showings. But then somebody had the "brilliant" idea, "Let's not even bother putting up a show and just get the hell out of dodge with the investors' money!" Those people who thought they were so smart got sued to all hell. Then people started looking more closely at that stuff. And now very few people would even dare try it.

[@TheGeorgeD13]

@@lulucool45 Fascinating, but really dumb. It's actually much easier to make a profit putting on a play and letting it have an actual run. I've had some success producing a few off-broadway shows. To me, that is much easier than doing what these guys are trying to get away with.

[@lnfreeman]

@@TheGeorgeD13 probably coming back because more and more people are watching things ironically. And even putting their butts in theatre seats to do it.

[@apsleymay3531]

Just got a PragerU ad before starting this. Help me please

[@toastwell6488]

Laurence, the First Vicar I know, right? I liked the quarter of the overpopulation video that I watched because I think I might have learned something probably. Then I skipped it because I realized that it was a five minute video. Why are their advertisements five minutes long? Why? Anyway, it's really confusing. Most of the people whose videos I watch are either atheists, something else, or don't say what they believe in.

[@ninjanippledog725]

click the [i] icon in the bottom left after "why this ad?", then click "dont show me this ad again", then pick a reason. For stuff like that I usually pick "inappropriate" :p

[@Swordopolis]

Let it run, and just ignore it; they probably bid a lot to get their ad to run, let them waste it

[@cerumen]

NinjaNipple Dog this seems like it should be the correct response, but all it does is give them advertising preference data, which they can then use to more effectively market to their target demos. I smile every time I see an ad for something terrible, because it means they’ve wasted money and have no idea.

[@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat]

@@Swordopolis as an addition, KZbin doesn't track whether or not you mute ads to my knowledge. Mute, switch tabs or go on your phone and come back, you can always rewind if you let it play too long

[@gorblin_gorl]

The sitting position, fewer cuts, and stillness of the video makes this feel like a very serious video. I love it',

[@WatchdogGoon]

"You're gonna wanna sit down for this one."

[@elephant3109]

nah. tis mroe like, an extension of how lazy the movie is

[@gustavohernandeza.890]

Thanks for your Catwoman explanation. Now I get how the makers of Stealth made their money back. They have shown that movie ad nauseam for years in Latin American cable channels.

[@Misadventures_85]

"Pasa en las películas, pasa en la vida, pasa en TNT" xD

[@waywardmind]

How dare you! But in all seriousness, Stealth was at least fun. And amazingly, somehow, the VFX stand up!

[@itayeldad3317]

Him explaining it unlocked a memory of me zapping through channels like 10 years ago and checking schedule of cable movie channels during summer vacation and every day on at least one of them there was catwoman 2004. Thankfully I never watched it then

[@robinmoreau6668]

My God mother is 68, she and her friends went to see this movie. They actually enjoyed it. She said it made them feel like just because they are older, their lives are not over.

[@banananotebook3331]

It goes to show that just because something is 'bad', that doesn't mean it can't have value. Life is not perfect. We do the best we can with what we have. We live, and that is enough.

[@maddieb.4282]

It’s okay to like things that are “bad” and have them resonate with you! Jeez we can be analytical without being cultural elitists

[@NJGuy1973]

I'd rather watch 103 minutes of Diane Keaton, Jane Fonda, Candice Bergen and Mary Steenburgen as themselves, having coffee and talking about anything.

[@IncredibleMD]

103 minutes of Diane Keaton, Jane Fonda, Candice Bergen and Mary Steenburgen, totally unscripted, giving their honest opinion on 50 Shades of Grey.

[@DuringDark]

@@IncredibleMD instead of the 30 mins they spent practicing, they just read a random chapter of the book. The end discussion doesn't really manage to piece together any plot or themes at all, but it still says more about 50 Shades than this movie

[@HughDingwall]

But Dan, what if old but also sex?

[@Hedvigu]

then funny

[@Ripcookiethief]

What if ugly girl think she pretty? Then movie.

[@Hedvigu]

thats funny

[@nakenmil]

But what if pretty girl but think she ugly? Then 90s rom coms and 2010s pop music.

[@UltimateKyuubiFox]

How can falcon if not posh???

[@golgarisoul]

I'm having a fun time rewatching older episodes of Folding Ideas that I vaguely remember. It does an ok job at distracting me from The Dark Times.

[@rmyers99]

"That is *not* a hot chapter".

[@timothymclean]

Don't feel bad about knowing about _50 Shades._ You're a reviewer-type person, you're _supposed_ to know about the crap you review, even if it's crap.

[@SeanBarkerNegaScott128]

And frankly, the writers of the film should know about the crap they're writing. I guess even skimming Wikipedia was too much effort for them.

[@Uhohlisa]

I don't think he does, he did just do an hour-long defense of the first film which necessitated him reading the books.

[@goopium5970]

"reviewer-type person" lmao

[@whitherwhence]

*Especially* if it's crap

[@morganrobinson8042]

@@SeanBarkerNegaScott128 Seriously. If you aren't willing to read the source material, don't use it.

[@algi1]

I think there is one more middleman in selling a movie. The TV channel I worked at bought movies in packages from distributors, and they HAVE TO show the movies bought. So the cultural, educational state TV channel (that usually buys stuff like the recording of a Chinese ballet or the history of The Clash) ended up showing a very bad erotic thriller late at night.

[@MrPiccoloku]

Wait wtf? An erotic thriller on TV?

[@IcarusTyler]

@@MrPiccoloku Oh totally, regular fare after 11pm

[@psiamnotdrunk]

@@IcarusTyler Fuck me, THAT'S WHY THAT HAPPENED? I thought I was just lucky.

[@champagneandgummybears]

This video is up there with RedLetterMedia’s Half in the Bag about Jack and Jill as far as educating a dumb nonfilm business type like me about the weird dealings of Hollywood that I would otherwise never think or hear about

[@ChrisLitzenberg]

Excuse me, this wouldn't run on a Thursday at 7pm in Germany. That's the time for reality TV, series or telenovelas. Get your facts straight!

[@jelmore49]

I love the new intro, and I like that you know so much about the 50 Shades books- at least enough to catch when they’re making it up or phoning it in. There are too many garbage “hot takes” from people who are snarking on it because of a meme, or something a friend told them about the book, or the 10 minutes they watched so they could find a good clip for their video.

[@fatimagic1365]

this is some really great insight into how the (made-for-tv) movie business works. of course there's nothing wrong with mainstream films targeted towards older female audiences. but it's movies like these that make mainstream feminism in film look so cheap and dull, and as a feminist, i'm really kind of over it. there has to be something better than a hallmark knockoff movie or an amy schumer "comedy" out there for female audiences. and honestly, it should have been obvious from the get-go that this movie wasn't meant for actual audiences, because the whole 50 shades phenomenon is so old at this point even jokes about it are overdone. most of the people behind this movie (besides the pink ranger) have probably never spoken to an actual woman or moviegoer before in their lives.

[@vannesiebowie1084]

the fatimagic but this is not for young women, the type of persons that goes to the theaters. is for women that are older than 40 years and, sadly, just a few of them go to the theater. Maybe they don’t like it, but it’s not for them, it’s for networks. Now, if you want to speak about the type of movies that are targeted to women, you have all the reason, between the lazy romantic comedies and the comedies about women like Amy shumer is a prove that they use the excuse of being for women to make a lazy movie. What it means a movie for women??? Just those lazy movies??? I’ve never seen someone describing three billboards as a movie for women, even when the movie speaks about a topic that affect us. Or even Ladybird, now that I think about it. Even the good romantic comedies aren’t described like that (silver linings playbook). A movie targeted to women can be any movie, just stop being so fast to go for the quick cash...

[@tatehildyard5332]

What makes your point even sadder, is that there is an actual good movie that can be made out of figuring out love and sex in your later years. The only recent examples I can think of in feature film are Gloria Bell and While We’re Young. And while we’re on the subject, another thing that gets on my nerves when it comes to female representation is the “action girl” trope. While I do think it’s important to show women as capable in traditionally masculine spaces, it seems like that’s the only kind of “strong woman” studios know how to write anymore. It’s just been an endless line of Ripley and Sarah Connor knockoffs for nearly 40 years now.

[@lnfreeman]

@@vannesiebowie1084 whatever do you mean "just a few of them go to the theater?" The majority of the audience I see at most theaters is people over 50, and within that even majority women (lots of hetero couples + women friends / partners together). I tend to hear most about non-streaming movies from the boomer women in my life. Many of them go see a movie in a theater about once a week. Between having disposable income, being fully or semi retired, and still reading newspapers (and seeing movie review there), I'd say this demographic alone makes up a significant portion of the theater-going audience.

[@christianmccord9456]

Woah dude two vids within the span of a week?

[@camerongodsey9847]

Christian McCord believe me buddy, you won’t hear any complaints here

[@hibiscusman]

I mean, they're at least somewhat related. And if we're being real, it seems like he put more focus into this video than the creator's of the subject did theirs. >_>

[@oof-rr5nf]

Christian McCord IT IS THE END OF TIMES!

[@tanyacockle6469]

I was definitely expecting "Like, thirty-three?" "No, older." "Thirty-FOUR?"

[@falsenames]

"No, even older" "Thirty-four and three months?"

[@vids1900]

A whole series on film distribution and film finance would be great from you

[@CatMoca]

Edward Thomson I totally agree!!!!! I never knew about this made for film practice. I would love to learn more about the financing and the distribution

[@whiplashfilms]

Something that just occurred to me that sucks extra about this movie (apart from it being dull and not very funny and hackneyed) is that they could have made it a thing that the women actually *don't* really know the books because none of them bother to read it since they're all clearly college educated and fairly sophisticated upper-middle class women (like this is a film with a *Werner Herzog* reference for gods sake), and it mightve not been that funny but at least it wouldve been something that could have messed with audience expectations.... But the writers of the movie *still needed to read the fucking books*

[@shutupsprinkles]

“I feel sad now.” sums up my feelings about the fact that anyone would make a movie about 50 Shades of Grey this far after the fact. Like, this missed the boat more than the Fred Nickelodeon movies did.

[@matthewsawczyn6592]

And yet still made a killing for everyone involved. That's the real sad part for us lol

[@MonomaniacalTV]

I honestly think this is my favorite channel on youtube

[@Keith_Rothwell]

I am so glad to see you posting again.

[@miguel_vlzqz]

This video is one of my favourites from Dan. It has a chill vibe but also really insightful. I really loved his longer and documentary-like video essays, but this vlog changed how i conceptualize the movie business, tbh.

[@helentaylor2066]

2 videos in quick succession? You spoil me. Thank you

[@sagenerd419]

Helen Taylor I was really wondering what happened to this guy for a while

[@Personal_Chizo]

STOP. I WASN'T READY FOR THIS. THIS IS NOT FAIR, DANIEL.

[@Personal_Chizo]

I'm still catching up with yesterday's speedrun, ya bastard!

[@jdnk]

Damn, Daniel.

[@nothajzl]

Back at it again with the reviews!

[@marionsousagraca2031]

Who's Daniel?

[@ElVindicto]

Diane Keaton is the Tom Cruise of Martha's Vineyard aunties.

[@iBenjamin1000]

It should somehow be disheartening but it's so freaking funny to hear that actors can and do phone in performances

[@cheshirecreeper3743]

Alright, I got a pitch for you. Dan Olson, A Canadian Editor who works on films, talks about how he knows about films and process of making said film from a economic, capitalist perspective. AND IT WORKS. Bravo. 10/10 Get Back to work on the next Fifty Shades Film Review

[@MaskedManta]

I'm sorry for being really fuckin pedantic but Erin Simms is (Edit: *was,* she was replaced before the show even aired as pointed out below) a yellow power ranger, from Lost Galaxy. I feel like when most people hear "the" pink ranger they think of Amy Jo Johnson from Mighty Morphin'.

[@mcfeelyat]

Well, Dan was wrong.

[@AlyssaPence]

More specifically, she was cast as a yellow power ranger, but was never on the aired show

[@christopherwoods5150]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerina_Vincent

[@MaskedManta]

Damn the rabbit hole goes deeper and deeper

[@TalenLee]

I was genuinely surprised when the thumbnail put that forward. I was all 'oh dang is THIS what Amy Jo Johnson's been up to!?' but now here I am, quietly disappointed in the most inconsequential of ways.

[@jasonw.5023]

First rule of book club: don't read about book club

[@cinemagraphic6324]

*DING*.

[@heartpng]

Second rule of book club: don't read the book

[@BlindieNDriver]

Came here for Shannon's response to this. Been in several book clubs; very few people read the book if any and so you generally just go with whatever someone says if they convinced you that they read the book. Which isn't hard to do if nobody else has read the book

[@spankytag]

Jason W. HAHAA!!!! That’s actually really good...

[@Ian_sothejokeworks]

The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics: YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT THERMODYNAMICS.

[@RaccoonInACocoon]

"it's terrible, don't watch it" ... sold!

[@gatsbysdead]

My husband took me to see this. The theater had a bar, but I’m not sure I could physically afford enough alcohol to kill me, which would’ve been the only way I could’ve enjoyed it.

[@morthempstock9477]

I find the fact that you spent so much time studying books you hate weirdly inspiring.

[@tuesdaysellers1545]

I really appreciate anyone examining why they don't like something. It's a good question to be asking yourself! And in regards to 50 shades in particular, a lot of the widespread hate came from a very misogynistic place, which was wild because there were plenty of reasons to dislike the thing that were not misogynistic at all. In fact, a great reason to not like 50 Shades is because the book itself is pretty misogynistic!

[@wariggs16]

I want to see a movie where someone pantomimes reading a book like how people pantomime driving a car. Just swerving their book like a steering wheel back and forth.

[@zeldablizzard]

Dan, you just keep putting quality into the world. I laughed much too hard at the indignation in the last bit.

[@MrJohndoakes]

Herschel Gordon Lewis bought (and finished) Bill Rebane's unfinished mutant astronaut film "Terror at Halfday", turning it into the spliced-together "Monster A-Go-Go" ONLY because he needed another film to show on a double bill in 1965, and he had the brass balls to market the movie as a horror comedy.

[@acassiopeia6439]

I do love your KZbin work Dan. Videos like these make me think of old timey med school, and you’re standing there rummaging through a cadaver to show us the interesting gross bits. Always brings me a smile when you upload

[@monsterguyx]

Enjoying a critique of a movie I haven't seen, and don't intend to, when Dan casually mentions working with H. G. Lewis, the "Godfather of Gore." Awesome.

[@FrankieSmileShow]

Haha, your description of the market strategy for this kind of movie really sounds like the description of a pyramid scheme, doesn't it? Can't be the only one who noticed that.

[@DrMcCoy]

Yes, I had the same thought

[@Uhohlisa]

capitalism!

[@Paulxl]

Not really. The money comes from the ads run during the tv broadcast of this movie. Something is being sold. It's not really the movie.

[@timothymclean]

@@Paulxl Technically, that's true for basically anything on TV. It's just that most programming focuses more on drawing in viewers (to get higher rates from advertisees), while Book Club and its ilk focus more on lowering costs (to be profitable even on low advertising revenue).

[@owayasomething9295]

Yeah it totally does! When the main revenue comes from the distributors rather than the end-user. But lets face it, these distributors are getting payed their share

[@MahouYousei]

I had this video on while waiting for my ambien to kick in for the night and it was hella zen. Knowing the characters are on the wrong page? Me too man. Me too.

[@theblazinggamer57]

I saw this movie in a theater when I was 12 with my grandma in a small indie theater filled to the brim with old people. Best theater experience of my life

[@damien678]

How can you post something like this and NOT go into the details? 😂

[@CrimHawkins]

The finger snapping followed by "I'm sad now" was so great. Honestly, I am really fascinated by your take on this series (50 Shades). Quite the rabbit hole indeed!

[@1BlessEdYou]

"let's talk about why and how it exists in the first place." Yes, let's. I'd love more content about the ecology of mediocrity in film-making.

[@AA-cf4es]

I am begging for you to consider talking about Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. It is a perfect deconstraction of romantic comedies, amazingly on point. It is basically "Breaking Bad" in it's genre.

[@ahmedamine24]

That little comedic beat at the end. That was masterfully timed.

[@zhazhagab0r]

Literally clicked bc of the thumbnail. Kimberly was my five-year-old self's idol. Edit: I HAVE BEEN BETRAYED.

[@billyweed835]

I always prefered Trini. A pity what happened to her...

[@theloredaughter132]

Oh my god that Z-snap, I died laughing so hard, because I *have* watched your hour-long epic, and I absolutely believe you that you'd be able to tell that much about the scenes just from how many pages they had open. X'D

[@witchfynder_finder]

I'm really glad you made this video because ever since I first heard about Book Club, like, a month ago I've been trying to figure out WHY

[@NotPMHarper]

Media born purely out of capitalism is always the best

[@timothymclean]

It's never quite as hilariously bad as media born out of misaimed passion...though it also doesn't have the same tendency for terrible implications.

[@VultRoos]

media borne out of misaimed passion is often charming though, even in some of the worse forms. They can be unintentionally funny in a charming earnest way. capitalism-driven media is just cynical and reductive and really really depressing.

[@MrJohndoakes]

This at least has stars and you can sell it to Nicaraguan television - the producers of "Manos - the 'Hands' of Fate" tried to sell that movie to TV stations, and I think the most independent, bare-bones UHF stations bought the thing just to have something in reserve.

[@Matrim42]

MrJohndoakes Manos wasn't born out of passion, though. It was born out of a bet.

[@flyingteeshirts]

People still watch The Room 15 years later, nobody will be watching Book Club 1 year later. Passion projects are typically interesting, whereas capitalist derivative movies are so unoffensive and bland that they are forgotten. We remember the good, the bad, but not the mediocre.

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

"I feel sad now." That got way more of a laugh than it probably should have.

[@Sedric-and-Charlie]

50 Shades Of Separation (from an actual audience) All this talk of badly greenscreened things that should not need greenscreening has kind of made me want to see the movie now. I have a soft spot for bad, gratuitous greenscreen, like that one episode of Doctor Who where I suppose the BBC must've just gotten into greenscreen for the first time and they were terribly excited for it, which is the only reason I can imagine for greenscreening a person into a kitchen

[@TheLuckySpades]

What episode was that?

[@radiobob1908]

Have you ever seen Fraggle Rock? That's my personal favorite example of endearingly bad greenscreen. They literally have a character named after a type of greenscreen, with Traveling Matt named after the traveling matte used to film most of his scenes.

[@isaacbear7115]

It's a trip going back through your old videos.

[@ScottKorin]

Mary Steenburgen was on the WTF podcast and was talking about how this movie wasn't just about old people having sex and was more about how older adults, especially women, aren't usually the focus of a movie and that this movie was more about these older people finding new interests and growing even in their 60's. Now, Mary is in the movie, so she's trying to sell it, hut that was the first thing I heard about the movie.

[@vlogerhood]

YAY more content from Dan! Also this video was even better than I imagined when I saw it in my feed.

[@fizalex6612]

I didnt know how much I actually needed to watch this review. Great video Dan. It made me happy to know you also enjoyed Grace and Frankie. My girlfriend was watching it one morning so I joined in and ended up liking it so much that I got her to restart it from the beginning and we binged it all in like 2 weeks. It was surprisingly so funny.

[@Kobar]

Please do a vid on why famous actors take these terrible roles. It can't always be for money. Are they tricked? Do they owe someone or a studio a favor? Do they have terrible agents? Or maybe really think it's going to be a great movie?

[@NJGuy1973]

Contractual obligations.

[@andrewjohnstone7943]

These big names take these roles as 2-day paid vacations I think

[@MiloKuroshiro]

Most of these roles take little time. Like, a week or less of shooting for then.

[@Max-nk9xg]

For someone like Nick Cage it's really the money. Dude spends a shit ton of money on castles, islands, cars and what not and so he takes a lot of roles. I wish there were more to it.

[@TheGeorgeD13]

It is for the money, but not in the way you expect. It's the ratio between days spent on set and the money being paid. They're on set for usually just a week or so, so for that little amount of time, you're being paid relatively a huge lot.

[@monke5100]

I’m not gonna complain for you making an upload so soon after the previous one. This is a good thing. Thank you for that. I like it very much. Please do this more often.

[@drgeniusphd]

Love that you did this vlog in the studio! It probably took more effort but this was a really nice quality little video, I appreciate it.

[@WebsiteTourist]

Gee whiz, a sparkly fresh video. There goes my sleep cycle. Woo.

[@profsweets]

I'm so glad I stumbled on your channel. 10/10 every time

[@Perzyn]

You know those HUD lines in TV, where they show the profession of whomever is on screen? Like Alan Moore gets "Writer/Wizard/Mall Santa/Rasputin Impersonator"? You should start showing up with one saying "50 Shades of Gray Expert".

[@dinionshamio]

I love these blog type videos because your sense o humour really shines when you're a bit less scripted. This review is infinitely more enjoyable than the actual movie probably is

[@shocknawe]

They shouldda called it "50's Club." It wouldda being amazing.

[@matthewsawczyn6592]

This movie still made $105 million worldwide in theaters, not counting all the network reselling. Now I'm depressed.

[@derekdidear3575]

This is so much more engaging than it has any right to be. This is a *saga* now.

[@Gandaleon]

This topic illustrates wonderfully the insanity of capitalism: It's a kind of economy, where creating use value is completely secondary to making a profit. A movie like this is an utter waste of resources, time and human labor. Nobody really needs this movie, nobody asked for it and nobody will even think about it after watching it, leave alone hearing about it here today. Just think about, how much paper went into making a movie like this. Think of all the transportation, that was involved in getting this movie to cinemas world-wide. There is a countless number of simply *mediocre* movies, that are better than this. But as long as there's a way for some people to make money during this whole process, it doesn't seem to matter. And while we, as private comsumers, are practically pressured by society to use resources sparingly: to save water by not showering daily, to turn off our electric devices, when we don't need them, to try and not travel by airplane in order to reduce our carbon footprint, to recycle our waste and think and act eco-friendly in general, our economy has wastefulness woven into the very fabric of its being. Sustainability under capitalism is a joke.

[@suddenllybah]

Eh, I'd argue Sustainability under humanity is more a joke. What makes this less ideal then fancy ass tombs for dead rich people? Vanity projects in general seem just as bad to me, and we would need some waste to resources value to actually compare current capitalism to other periods of time.

[@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat]

@@suddenllybah well, fancy ass tombs are great for archeology.

[@louschwick7301]

@@suddenllybah previous periods of human history never worried about sustainability and never really needed to. Theyre not wasting something that cannot really be replicated. And vanity projects from history are at least often beautiful, fantastic tourist destinations that create aesthetically pleasure for the society. Who benefits from The Book Club?

[@IncredibleMD]

The country most responsible for pollution in the world is an explicitly non-capitalist country, and all of those top ten most polluting companies people like you like to mention are state-owned. That company who recently set the ocean on fire? State-owned. Amazon isn't destroying the world, OPEC is. The people telling private entities to use less, and the people legislating they use less, are the people using more and more. Think about how many people were employed to create this movie. This movie probably created hundreds of jobs, working thousands of man-hours, which is important to set decorators, camera operators, sound techs, etc. who need to feed their families in an increasingly service-based economy.

[@Gandaleon]

@@IncredibleMD So? Whether or not the pollution is due to the decisions of CEOs and board members of private corporations or by politicians and other state officials doesn't make any difference to me. I'm not interested in their character, I don't believe that one or the other is better suited to make moral decisions and I don't make value judgements about them as people. If we drive ourselves to the brink of extinction it's not because of bad individual actors, but because of the invisible force that moves us into that desastrous direction: the economic model of capitalism - the invisible hand, the ghost in the machine. Capitalism is like chess. The individuals playing the game don't matter. They're just filling a role that is pre-defined by the very game itself. Neither do the colors of the chess pieces matter. The outcome of the game is still going to be the same. Conflict is inevitable. You can't play the game cooperatively. If you want to cooperate, you need to change the game completely. Both the capitalist state AND the private companies are equally compelled by the systemic force and this is why your whole point about state owned or privately owned doesn't chane a thing. Capitalism reigns supreme. With the fall of the USSR, that battle was decided. So - sorry not sorry - you don't get to blame socialism for our current problems. Capitalism is the dominant global economic model, so much so, that even self-identifying socialist states are beholden to it in some shape or form. And yes, that includes China, Cuba, Venezuela and all the other bogeymen.

[@carlosflores-gaytan1589]

I didn't know anything about Book Club besides the main actresses and basically I was just imagining just a light movie about the lives of some older women who meet for a book club- so when you started off by saying it was a 50 Shades of Grey cash in I thought you were just making a joke? Like, "hah, imagine if this conservative drama for older people had 50 Shades of Grey style content." But then I got increasingly confused as you circled back to 50 Shades of Grey and had to go look up the premise of the movie.

[@bisshoyanwar8994]

It's good to have you back, man, KZbin wasn't the same without you!

[@nothajzl]

Dan is back. YES!!!

[@-_-_m]

Yeah, someone I know was a wardrobe PA on that movie. Looking at her social media feed at the time and speaking to her you could tell that the production was decidedly barebones. In a way it was oddly refreshing to see, she didn’t seem like she had her soul sucked out of her body.

[@lordrav4746]

I really like this format you have going now. Feels a lot more personal to the point that my brain almost glosses over the cuts completely. Keep up the good work!

[@FourLetterLWord]

I came back to this video because I just saw an ad for Book Club: The Next Chapter, because I guess that happened earlier this year

[@wolfangtorres1587]

Dan from extra credits retired and left a not dan to take his place, noe you are my only dan left

[@scottsbarbarossalogic3665]

And New Frame Plus

[@Mauerpwrlp]

So I discovered your channel about a week before your Fifty Shades video went up thanks to "the algorithm," and was really worried when I saw you hadn't uploaded anything in 5 months. Thanks for putting me at ease on that one; really looking forward to whatever comes next!

[@serene1172]

‘I feel sad now.’ Something about that last line got me to crack up.

[@dkrock8567]

Hello one of my favorite bearded KZbinrs :) So happy to see new content from you. I've missed you

[@CastlesComments]

For a while there he had me wondering how that really tame looking Emily Mortimer british flick that my mom loved was somehow about 50 Shades. But that was The Bookshop. This is..... something else

[@sataprescott907]

Thanks for the shoutout to Grace and Frankie, cuz that show is gold; tender, tender gold.

[@michael.471]

He’s just having this total breakdown and I love it

[@ZipplyZane]

I just wish to point out the Power Rangers stuff, to make it clear (not to get bogged down on something unimportant). As you say in the comments, she was not ever actually on the show _Power Rangers._ But she was also never the Pink Ranger, but a yellow ranger, as part of _Power Rangers In Space._ She was originally cast as Maya, the jungle girl yellow ranger, but left the project and was replaced before it went to air. "The Pink Ranger" would normally mean the first pink ranger, Kimberly Jo Johnson. She was the Pink Ranger in _Mighty Morphin Power Rangers_ and in the first half of _Power Rangers Zeo._

[@GraceGlenmore]

I hate podcasts. But I can sit and listen to you talk, without music or visuals, for HOURS.

[@ArrowsOfAthena]

The ending of this video made me literally scream. Bless our host, for he suffers to save our fragile sanity.

[@JammyD2579]

Great insight into movie theatre marketing. Thanks, Dan.

[@officialgoogleyoutube]

I almost considered watching this at some point (probably VOD), just because of Diane Keaton, even though it looked terrible. I think I got the gist here, though.

[@ahzidaljun]

jeez the 50 shades quote was actually kinda disturbing. Hooow can anyone read that shit. You are a very high endurance man for enduring it.

[@Wveth]

Lol it's literally just describing some foreplay. It's like the text version of softcore porn. You're a bit sensitive.

[@gwammeh]

I can only assume the movie did very well at its intended purpose because I saw an ad for a sequel earlier today. Good for them, honestly.

[@JinStreams]

Now it can fill a massive block on cable as a double feature

[@JinStreams]

Now it can fill a massive block on cable as a double feature

[@TacticalBerry]

“I was able to work with a dude on his last film. It’s terrible, don’t watch it” In fucking tears 😭

[@afl1183]

I’ve missed your content. I’m glad to see a second video in such rapid succession! Love your work.

[@NarfiRef]

I kinda love that while you weren’t able to finish the 50SoG video in time for the release of 50SF, you were at least able to get it out in time for this.

[@Juliett-A]

I love how you know 50 shades so much better than people who made a movie about it.

[@tapiocaweasel]

Or the author lol

[@juneguts]

Your vlogs are such a treat. Do you save your streams anywhere? I can't usually make it to those. And do consider making a proper vlog of corn ranting. I'm sure that drunken rant (which you could link from the vlog even) isn't everything you have to say about it. And signal boosting it would be cool.

[@bEtHaRoO92]

I don’t know where you went for so long, but I’m glad you’re back now!

[@hibiscusman]

Your latest content has been ... strange. But it's still really god damn entertaining and insightful. Thanks Dan, I trust you at the wheel