Food Theory: Should I DELETE This Video?

[@Brew]

Mystery solved ☕️

[@billybobjrvonjeffreythe3rd912]

Yo

[@pumpkinlord5426]

agreed

[@expansive4485]

@@HYPERMAN__ same, I’m definitely checking out Brew after this video. Sounds like my kind of content too!

[@maapauu4282]

You're here?!

[@softhyung]

@@HYPERMAN__ me too! Their channel seems really interesting

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

It’s rare that Matpat tackles criticism head on, but he does it really well actually.

[@MbitaChizi]

Dont read my name!😑

[@benito23453]

Жжжжжж

[@nitro4787]

True

[@RaccoonOnToilet]

WHY ARE THERE A BUNCH OF BOTS HERE HOLY #### (And im not talking about the Mustache guy)

[@daniilpashuk6017]

Yes, but it always seems so aggressiv lul

[@NoOne-xl8ui]

-proved the hate comments wrong -provides evidence and facts to why his video was correct -explains everything calmly and confidently -agrees with the other party, but still proves his point -gives response that avoids starting drama Now this is how a real professional youtuber responds

[@Neoillia]

Yk they dont call him THE youtube businessman for nothing, he certaintly knows how to do things right

[@kayleescruggs6888]

I don't know about that last one. MatPat is definitely trying to avoid drama, but we are talking about the internet. I'm sure someone will try to start some drama just because they can. Sadly, I don't saying something like healthy grass is green wouldn't start drama.

[@Neoillia]

@@kayleescruggs6888 people will start drama about it but the way it was done nobody whos opinion actually matters in this area at least the area he exists in prominetly will actually catch on to it and he most likely wouldent be affected since anyone with reasoning would ignore most the drama, he had to deal with this drama because someone with reasoning did say something about his video being bad, which other people latched onto.. If theres nobody with reasoning disputeing it then it doesnt matter

[@sword_racer185]

@@Neoillia looks at Optimus

[@Hiroki_Maiko]

Not just that but they also keep it intresting to watch! what an outstanding team they are

[@brycetonbennett9346]

She also said that it was a lot of Kale to get a child to eat. But she said herself, no one was disputing that kids need milk. You were talking better alternatives for adults

[@INEEDAhanDle269]

Yeah, for example, I'll definitely tell this to my dad who just, doesn't like milk in general. And neither do I. But I love broccoli, so it really is just something to consider

[@AdaminaCarden]

Kids don't *need* milk... kids *need* calcium... Kids can tolerate milk... They are perfectly fine if they get that calcium from other sources though (like, say, tofu)

[@hooman2459]

I feel like over the years, Mat has gotten a lot better at taking criticism. At first he wouldn't really do anything, but now he is able to talk about what happened in a really effective manner.

[@L16htW4rr10r]

Not surprising, since he had done this for ten years (if I'm not wrong)

[@СтепанБандера-м1в]

MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео):. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXK0qYOJrLJnnpI

[@GriffinZambia]

Dont read my name!😑.

[@thatonedude8548]

@@GriffinZambia your trying to do a rickroll

[@susped645]

Matpat after defending himself: But hey, that's just a theory

[@CZsWorld]

Two creators criticizing each other's theories and improving on each other's information. The true spirit of great science on display! 👍

[@GriffinZambia]

Dont read My Names!

[@JacksonHollo]

hey checkmark person

[@karaking2391]

Hey there czsworld!

[@btgreat8201]

@@GriffinZambia i won't, you bot

[@oldbritishchap4913]

Love ya content

[@freyjathehealer5559]

Honestly he basically just proved that he knows what he’s talking about. But also he gave the woman as much credit as she was owed and I respect the heck out of him for doing that.

[@SapphireDragon357]

Far more than she was owed, imo.

[@kitkat25195]

Yes. It wasn’t her fault that the haters picked mat as their target. They just watched the video and we’re like: only one tiiiiny little thing that they got wrong that was kinda correct? Well let’s make it seem like it’s mega incorrect!

[@toreadoress]

Yeah I didn't see her criticizing him directly or something, she just expanded on it. The people are the ones completely twisting and blowing it out of proportion, because they were already biased against him, just like the media headlines and articles are doing most of the time. This is why it's very important for people to not bindly believe in something they just heard online before looking into the whole picture and making their own research before making a judgment. The easiest thing is to jump on a hate train with limited information for things people don't fully understand or because it doesn't align with their personal views.

[@bryceinnerst7963]

thats cool and all but you used the word heck so you're a child

[@SapphireDragon357]

@@bryceinnerst7963 So edge, much adult!

[@shaylafey]

Rewatching all the food theory videos, and I can't help remember Ann's responses, comments, etc. It was what made me stop watching her TBH. I was not really a "fan" as in attached to either at the time, I enjoyed both content but the individual creators I was not attached to. So when the...lack luster video came out, followed by her comments within that video to this one. Yeah, I noped out. She refused to admit areas she was wrong in, doubled down constantly, and was more interested in vilifying other creators than actual facts, which made her far less trustworthy as a source to me.

[@madabouthollyoaks411]

and she has done it again! literally last week, but this time to a small content creator who's tip actually works, she doesn't seem to have bothered to actually watch the original video though, shame

[@SoratheProtogen]

Remember matpat can not be criticized for he is an exeption

[@shaylafey]

@@SoratheProtogen Im not saying he can't be criticized, but the critism here was widely ridiculous, lacked critical thought and research, and accusatory for no real reason. She then doubled down equally hostile, again for no real reason.

[@heyguy-]

​@@SoratheProtogenread the comment before you respond thx 😊

[@tumokonnin]

@@SoratheProtogen remember you can not be criticized for your reading capabilities are an exception 💀

[@Autumndapple]

This is such a great response. Respectful, but still standing your ground. "You're not wrong, but neither am I, this is a very complicated subject that we approached from two different, but equally sound perspectives."

[@tumblingartist]

@Autumndapple Exactly!

[@KitsyX]

He was still wrong about the Kale lol.

[@Zeverinsen]

It's especially correct, considering how experts are still not certain about the topic either.

[@Autumndapple]

@@KitsyX Yes, and he commented on what a silly mistake it was. But the main point still stands.

[@vsoarece5351]

@@KitsyX don't eat kale then. Stop hating him. You are doing more wrong than his whole video on the topic

[@HidinginPublic]

Matt has had a few mistakes in his theories in the past, but all in all for the amount of content he puts out, with the amount of research, detail and organization. Few creators are as unbelievably impressive as what "The Theorists" have built across their channels. I feel like this general sentiment has lead to a lot of bad faith criticisms or assumptions about him, but Matt seems like a good guy, or in the least, someone who Is putting in effort to get things right. This video did a wonderful job basically conclusively responding to the insinuations around this particular video- but never does he even acknowledge the sort of snide cynicism from the original video. Just the points. Respects to Matt here. Respect where it is due.

[@ethankoh6851]

The only point I can raise is Hazbeen Hotel

[@tumblingartist]

@Hiding in Public ^^

[@Dedelblute3]

Me: A subnautica player: Matpat: UTTERLY MISREPRESNTS THE GAME I PLAY Me: Complains with everyone else in the comments section: KZbin: removes downvotes

[@HidinginPublic]

So people don't think i'm just sucking up or voiding any valid criticism of him: I made a video on my side channel debunking the complete BS that was in the Persona game theory - but frankly even most Persona fans don't know the lore (which you can see in most the responses to Matt's video that get just as much wrong as he did). Once again, not ignoring past faults, but if we put a whole team worth of blame on one guy, we gotta put a whole team worth of credit too.

[@mr.tomato2699]

It is called a THEORY. Theories don't have to be 100% right anyway, and they still make good content :)

[@Halcyon3652]

He makes an extremely valid point that talking about nutrition in general is extremely complicated and diverse. Its also important to note that this is "edu-tainment" its education mixed with education. Those things don't easily mix and MatPat and team do an incredible job of it 90% of the time.

[@jacksonkaleb7463]

education and education... heh. You have a good point, though! Matpat's videos are about many kinds of different(sometimes obscure) topics but have a charm to them that make them really easy to listen to. Matpat and his team is pretty darn good!

[@Grungler5508]

I also thing that education does not go with education

[@InfinitePlaysBr]

Education with education...something truly difficult indeed

[@Lucidtundra]

oh. It's definitely diverse. hahahaha

[@maetrashfire1213]

Exactly, especially when human biology/anatomy is a whole other can of worms that is varied on so many aspects of how you're already built (through genetics and different hereditary or environmental defects to your body). Both nutrition and the human body are so complex that, once put together, is like trying to make a never ending science experiment with too many independent and independent variables to keep track for. I give MatPat credit for making all of the complexities he researches for days maybe even weeks, sound interesting, enjoyable to learn and digestible. I already have trouble focusing on stuff, but he makes it interesting in a way I many others are able to learn from it and enjoy it. Overall, I greatly dislike the fact that so many people were so quick to bash Food THeory along with other theory videos without taking a step back and thinking for a second. Perhaps looking in the description or doing their own research or- heck- even watching the rest of the video MatPat got "called out" on.

[@sunburst3476]

Honestly disappointed in Ann. Something else happened recently with Sugarologie and her video about increasing color saturation in buttercreams and Ann lumped it in with the fake hacks and debunking without doing additional research while Sugarologie actually did her research and proved it multiple times in her videos. Both with this, the buttercream incident (you could say), and other times she was wrong about smtg, she either responded passive-aggressively, saying she was still right, or completely ignored the criticism and response given to her.

[@madabouthollyoaks411]

that is the reason i came to check this video out! I was sad to hear about the other times, what she's doing to sugarologie by remaining silent on HER error is not cool

[@oishibaking]

THIS!!! shes deleting criticism comments to make herself look good!!

[@kyushirokun]

There was also a video where she "compared" darker and brighter colored baking sheets for heat conductivity, and completely ignored the materials said baking sheets were made of 😂 Helen Rennie made a good breakdown of that one if i remember correctly

[@oishibaking]

@@kyushirokun i think that they misunderstood each other cus they were arguing about diff things, but it's surprising how Ann basically always thinks shes right no matter this time for sugarologie and for helen

[@d6d6d6d61]

She also promotes an MLM

[@Volair]

Can't remember the quote, but I'll pass on the sentiment: Just because one argument is right, doesn't mean the other argument is wrong (both can be right, even if seemingly contradictory at first glance). I think Mat did a good job in showing that today. Tons of respect for both Mat, his team, and ofc Anne. The fact that the Food Theory team used potential mistakes and clear criticisms to teach even more about the subject is pretty fantastic and just plain smart.

[@GriffinZambia]

Dont read my name!😑..

[@zaxtonhong3958]

The weakest part of this video is when Mat says “so who was right?” Even if he correctly assesses that they were both right, it’s still reinforcing the “being right is what matters” idea.

[@lukasbelford8207]

@@zaxtonhong3958 So how do you thing he should have put it? IDK but providing a science piece should be about correctness/being right ( with the best information currently available)

[@ThatOneLadyOverHere]

I liked the outcome of this because it shows how the decision ultimately comes down to you and that you should probably do more research because wow food is complicated. Both did give examples of how to do it though, like Mat pointing out how that much kale can fit in a smoothie if you are down for that or Anne talking about calcium in non dairy milks.

[@ThatOneLadyOverHere]

@@zaxtonhong3958 I actually felt like that was meant to emphasize the opposite. He spent a lot of the time showing how both people are right and that it's complicated and then turned around and said "so whose right?" To emphasize just how unimportant that question is because clearly it is up to personal decision and research.

[@togas_nightcores]

The first KZbinr I’ve ever seen to defend himself in a non toxic, well researched and self criticizing manner. Well done MatPat and Team y’all are amazing

[@MbitaChizi]

Dont read my name!😑

[@togas_nightcores]

@@MbitaChizi then don’t comment under my comment ;-;

[@Ryan_2218]

If anything, she was more rude than he was

[@togas_nightcores]

@@Ryan_2218 definitely yes!

[@raeisyahzafira38]

@@Ryan_2218 honestly I can understand why she sounded rude, since she didn't know Mat's side of the story and probably saw it more like he did spread miss info. I do hope she sees this and agrees with the video. I've watched Ann and from what I've seen she's a really cool person /nm /gen

[@myStitch11]

I appreciate how maturely Mat handled this. Clearly he was a bit upset about it, but he does have every right to be. It’s disheartening when you put a lot of effort into something you spend months on and someone rips into it over one small issue. Instead of being immature and attacking Ann, he addresses her issues and clarifies them, even specifying his resources for us to look into them. The Brew channel is really fun, nice to listen to and their animations are pretty funny. I jumped over to watch their video. Both videos come to basically the same conclusion through different evidence, though are a bit similar, but that is going to be the case when two people tackle researching the same topic. It’s like a teacher calling plagiarism on a kid who did the same topic as a kid the year before despite the two papers aren’t copy and paste. (Also that thumbnail Brew has used in total 4 times on their own channel but is a simple idea to come up with, if you came up with something, high likelyhood someone else has had the same idea at some point)

[@GriffinZambia]

Dont read My Name😑.

[@WolfeWrangle]

@@SilverDusk1 I just try to make sure to report them as spam as soon as I see them.

[@Goofyloofy1]

Since this is a top comment there a great chance matpat might see this so brew channel isn’t actually a like team channel it’s owned by a company idk what their name but there is like 5 other channel like it I have seen I video exploring this topic in depth but I don’t remember where

[@aidenflame1576]

@@SilverDusk1 jts actually not a bot it was a person and ot was actually really good advertising for a cool thing, follow the trail guys If its not a link tht links outside of youtube i dont see the harm in curiousity Edit: it was more like an arg easter egg hunt ^-^ e eryone in the comments at the end tht followed it was happy and pleasantly surprised

[@supremeduckissupremetheduc9896]

@@aidenflame1576 It's still lots of spam.

[@cybersword8227]

I have to say that Mat Pat and the team deserve so much more credit than they get. It’s clear in any video how much research they do. It’s amazing that they handled the backlash from commenters and other creators like this! They made and apology video proving why they don’t have to be sorry and making everyone who said they didn’t do their research look dumb! Mat Pat and team are AMAZING! Keep it up!

[@nicholasprovencher7360]

Haters: "Matpat is a shill for veganism" Matpat: "in today's episode, I'm going eat several pounds of fried chicken to see if I can identify KFC's secret recipe"

[@darrenmacqueen9884]

My first thought was the BBQ episode lol. But he's made several episodes about meat.

[@sapphirerubin9510]

that would be an interesting video

[@Kenjiso]

Lol, this is so true

[@taggamer335]

@@sapphirerubin9510 it's already an actual video i think.

[@moltenfreddy9339]

And I would watch all 60 minutes of it

[@toriibarlow]

I think a lot of people actually forget that Matt Pat isn't some random guy on KZbin with zero education. He actually did get an education and is very knowledgeable and knows enough to do his homework and research well. Not to forget there's also team theorist which is comprised of other individuals to help back him up with making sure information is correct.

[@uhm175]

Tru Dat

[@fantasiesoftheunknown1756]

Yes

[@slayer-scythe8159]

former hs valedictorian

[@mixstardust429]

He's a smart and knowledgeable guy with a lot of competent and dedicated people, they're all huge dorks pretty much. People be expecting a lot from 'em and people be weird about the team and creator because they're relatively big and popular, it ain't surprising but what can ya do?

[@nithyabalakrishnan3599]

Tru bro

[@liev_x]

Whoever said that Mat is a "shill for veganism" clearly didn't watch the video of him tossing steaks into a dryer and then excitedly tearing into them after being tumble-cooked.

[@cartoonmaster2401]

Or turning eating cake made from ice creams from different day food restaurants.

[@RadReading]

Or getting excited because his wife prepared TWO 13-pound Thanksgiving turkeys one year

[@mitsunetflix7643]

Or the one where he ate a bunch on burgers to confirm the best stack order

[@Painfulcereal]

Bro I died laughing because I forgot about that video

[@gamerofedge8111]

Also like, why do people get so offended when confronted with facts that say that some aspects of a vegan diet have scientific backing?

[@and_gelitan]

Matpat: “No intro today friends!” Also Matpat: *”HELLO INTERNET, WELCOME TO FOOD THEORY!”*

[@Quad-E]

I bursted out laughing 😂😂

[@retrothelegend571]

That's not the intro buddy

[@DeletedDevilDeletedAngel]

@@retrothelegend571 intro is short for introduction, those are just animated sequences that recaps what the thing is about and then they reveal or "introduce" what its called

[@retrothelegend571]

@@DeletedDevilDeletedAngel yes that what the word intro means but it's not how we use it, for example the actual intro for food theory does introduce or say what a video is about, saying hello welcome to (channel name) ain't an intro

[@magenhaigler6569]

@@retrothelegend571 it TECHNICALLY is

[@YaBoiAustin-bi7rk]

I appreciate how professional Mat was in his response to criticism, and how he didn't make Anne seem bad or wrong, but rather explained that the measuring systems were causing confusion in interpretation. (Plus with this editing style, I would definitely watch a 90 minute video on bioavailability, and am genuinely curious now)

[@envytee9659]

Yes, but her measuring system is just moronic. Serving size to serving size comparisons are one of the dumbest things you can ever do, because as this video shows, you can call just about anything a serving size. That inconsistency results in comparisons that actually end up giving no useful information, and often times tend more towards misinformation. Again, as this video shows, milk has more calories than coke, but simply because milk claims a smaller serving size, this truth is distorted. Is it misinformation? Not exactly, since the nutrition per serving size is correct. But is this done in a way to trick people into thinking that this product has less calories than it does? Yes, absolutely. The know people don't pay that much attention generally to calculate the true calories in everything they pick up, so they try to put a low serving size so they can have lower calories printed on the label. Look at most snacks and drinks. A small bag, which realistically one person will consume, is often shared up into multiple servings for the reason above. This is why "serving size" is a garbage metric to conpare by. Mat knows it but is too kind to call her out on it, and she knows it but is trying to twist things to fit her stance.

[@vevan99]

@@envytee9659 please post this as an individual comment lol, I'd hate if people miss it just bcs it's a reply

[@andylugo7060]

@@envytee9659 Honestly the worst part is how she took a single line of incorrect information out of a whole page of correct information and used that as a jumping off point for criticism. That’s deliberate misrepresentation since they seem to outright avoid mentioning the other information and arguably worse than the claim of plagiarism she made at the start of her video. Honestly, i’m just glad ATLEAST she ensured the information was *Technically correct*, because everything else was… just ugh.

[@maxblast8210]

Yes please, I supposedly have trouble absorbing nutrients but no clear cause has been found, if it's how I'm preparing or pairing things i could really use a team of researchers figuring it out.

[@atitagain2788]

same, it's hard not to enjoy what Matt and his team create

[@kinilas]

As a researcher who often has to defend my own claims, I love how you defend yourself without saying she is wrong. Way to take the high road. Mad respect

[@SeanFerree]

Well said!

[@emmae3801]

As someone who's been eating kale for a really long time, the other thing to note about that huge bowl is that kale is one of those greens that cooks down a LOT. You throw it in a pan, start sautéing it, and it shrinks down to the point where you can't imagine that it came from a huge bowl in the first place.

[@ClovePink]

Yesssssss

[@mushaluna]

EXACTLY. I absolutely adore kale and my mom cooks with it and every single time I eat her food I ask her why she didn't put more kale. Well, she put a lot, it just shrunk!

[@irispark1381]

As a fellow vegetable sauté-er that’s still a lot of kale for one meal. Maybe like 4-5 meal

[@thegamingillustrator]

i use spinach in my stir fry. one whole bag of spinach cooks down to about 3 forks worth of spinach when cooked.

[@Paradisemisplaced]

It always blows my mind when creators will create long content to attack someone else when they could have just sent a DM with their concerns. Tem Theorist did a great job with this reply and you could really tell they were just thinking "why didn't you just reach out before we got here"

[@Not_Always]

She needs content. Her channel has grown quite boring over the years and now she is constantly merching her cookbook.

[@jeanismael1753]

She barely used his video, it was under 1 min and she used his video alongside other creators that made the same claim that Mattpat did

[@lyntonfleming]

​@@jeanismael1753it was three and a half minutes, but nice job outing yourself as one of her attack dogs.

[@pharogryph7235]

In fairness, the same could be said on MatPat's end. He could have easily settled this by messaging the food channel about her content, rather than make a drama video.

[@darkwhispersstories47]

​@@pharogryph7235and she could have easily not throw shade at anybody Ya know just saying 🤷

[@athena-sy2bz]

mat: *sits on a couch* everyone: *sweats* but in all seriousness, i’m glad how you took the criticism. you talked about what happened in a really effective manner while not starting drama. thanks, mat. :)

[@smittenpizza6991]

Uhh he sat on a couch get it right/j

[@JelloBeanzer]

GT Live viewers: *grabs the snacks*

[@athena-sy2bz]

@@smittenpizza6991 MY BAD SJSJSJ

[@gub2142]

@@smittenpizza6991 They worded it right, it’s not wrong

[@smittenpizza6991]

@@gub2142 congrats you missed the joke

[@wesleyrobinson4532]

Serving sizes is essentially gerrymandering for food. Maybe you should do a whole video on serving sizes and who makes them up and what regulates them.

[@zaxtonhong3958]

Literally this is the best possible comparison. Kudos.

[@antiloser-NFS]

Yes, an episode on this would be great. I for one can't figure out what constitutes a serving, (not that I care, I just eat until I am satisfied).

[@GriffinZambia]

Dont read my name!

[@SomniSerotonin]

@@GriffinZambia 🤓

[@JustCallMeEmily]

@@antiloser-NFS technecally all of the servings of food eat *should* fit in the palm of your hand. At least that's what I heard from my medical teacher (and honestly, it's probably just my American brain, but that felt like too little..)

[@crantina4371]

As someone who recently got diagnosed with a dairy allergy (not lactose intolerance), I'd just like to say thank you for showing other options to get calcium. Still very useful regardless of what other people say.

[@cestialfall84]

Have you tried lactoe free milk or almond milk? I'm highly lactose intolerant and those are very good alternatives for regular milk.

[@crantina4371]

@@cestialfall84 Yes I have. Found I like oat milk the best. Looks gross but doesn't have an overwhelming flavor. Can enjoy my cereals again lol.

[@snoringsnorlax8872]

I use rice milk and I have been allergic to dairy since I was like one year old. You could also try using almond milk. I don't get much calcium because I am also allergic to soy (tofu made from soy). Personally, I just recommend Rice milk if your still looking milks without dairy.

[@hata6290]

@@crantina4371 how does it look gross?????? is it rotten

[@crantina4371]

@@hata6290 no lol, just that weird, murky light grey color.

[@emmabrook9691]

She’s now coming for Sugarologie and grouping her in with “hacks” when Sugarologie has a PhD in biochemistry

[@TheZombifiedFairy]

Ann seems to enjoy going after people with degrees to see like the all knowing food expert. Lets not forget how educated both Mat and Steph (and their entire team) is. Its a little off putting how she tried to do a take down well known creators for her own person gain

[@whitepaint7870]

She was right about sugarlogie though.

[@animelover-gb2nf]

The fact that she removes the context around what he says in referencing his video to discredit it, speaks alot for itself

[@emmabrook9691]

@@whitepaint7870 no she wasn’t. Sugarologie made a response proving her claims and showing that Ann was oversimplifying the original process

[@whitepaint7870]

@@emmabrook9691 then she made a comeback video, and i saw other people who tried the icing hack agree with ann.

[@ratatoskrgaming4963]

“They didn’t do their research” They literally released 2 episodes on Game Theory that shows the process Team Theorist uses to make videos, including doing research for any particular episode. There was also the 2-part regarding copyright infringement that mentions how even with all the people who look through the contents of an episode that things occasionally slip through the cracks. The fact that MatPat had to even MAKE this episode shows how little research OTHERS do, how much they focus on one piece of a larger picture. As he said, this episode is ultimately defending 20 seconds of what was probably 20ish minute video that PRIMARILY focused on the ADVERTISING of milk. I actually just rewatched the Food Theory on the KFC name change conspiracy, which ALSO shows how people would rather react to a headline rather than doing the research themselves

[@GriffinZambia]

Dont read My Name😑.

[@yagirlgiulles]

This is why i usually dont care about people making call out videos about him

[@InsaneTog]

@@GriffinZambia bro shut up its not the place for that

[@coenx1]

The fact they had to release even a single video about the research they do shows how blind some people are. It's obvious in pretty much every video that they all do their research.

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

You don't even need to look at KZbin to know this. Just seeing how the mainstream media works, and it's clear that people are so used to relying on others to do the research for them and having that information packaged with a spicy label (See: pretty much everything from the sinking of the Maine to Russiagate) that not only are reactionary videos expected but will automatically be popular.

[@captmista1355]

I love how he is addressing this while standing his ground and not pushing her down. It is very respectable I could learn alot from him

[@OddlyIncredible]

Well, he was acknowledging that they're both technically correct; they're just looking at a very complex issue through slightly different metrics. The bigger issue is the trolling that forced the issue, with people bagging on Matpat and claiming he's a misinformation spreader. Food Theory is a broadly popular channel and that attracts assholes looking to cause trouble with a little pot-stirring.

[@XavierVB]

@@OddlyIncredible I’m honestly surprised that people managed to spread it out that far though. Clearly, her video simply states that they simply measured things differently, and the only *slight* argument you can make towards Mat and the team “spreading misinformation” would be the broccoli section. I’ve always none that there are some people who will do anything and everything to say that Mat “constantly gets facts wrong” and whatever, but I feel like folks just took things too far here

[@virtualagent4878]

Truthkzbin.info/www/bejne/fIS2d5qNoamVgLc.

[@yunoisreal757]

@@OddlyIncredible yeah man its kind of annoying tbh there are always idiots trying to ruin the fun or good things others have just for likes of they want to troll

[@jackie6361]

Agreed I would honestly be so sour and would not deal with it well at all I would more than likely either bark back or ignore it entirely instead of confronting her head on

[@invoquante]

Something that bugged me in the Ann video extract is when she said that you'll be having a hard time making a child eat so much kale. Children doesn't NEED to eat so much kale for calcium, since they can digest milk properly.

[@kuebby]

Exactly, she's a Karen who wants to speak to the manager.

[@ghetoknight7801]

yeah it's the adults the kale are for,m specifically lactose intolerant regions or regions where the milk is expensive... like he explains in the 20 seconds right after the clip she criticizes

[@jacksyoutubechannel4045]

@@ghetoknight7801 The problem is that she wasn't doing a debunking, rebuttal, or response to his video, so his focus on adults in _his_ video wasn't relevant to _her_ video. It was an aggregation of assertions from various videos about whether or not milk is good for you, including a brief clip from MatPat's, that she used as a jumping off point to discuss what's being said about the topic in other videos, what's misinformation, and what are some other things to consider. Additionally, lactose intolerance isn't the only reason why a parent might be hoping there are adequate substitutes for the milk a child needs. That's part of the reason Ann focused on servings. If you're, say, a parent who cut out gluten when being gluten-free was popular, or you're a vegan, Ann's video shows that if you decide not to give your child milk, you can't just make them eat a serving of kale and call it even. You're going to have to figure out how to get them to consume that sort of volume of something like kale _multiple times a day._ (As one example.)

[@bobdachair]

here is dr. mc. dumb dumb

[@lev4392]

Yeah that point stuck out to me too. In general I don’t have any preferences towards either creator, but it also really doesn’t make sense to compare serving sizes to me. I, a veggie loving adult, cook down large amounts of kale for a single serving fairy regularly. Someone who likes veggies less probably eats smaller portions… also neither video talks about this. But I don’t think anyone gets all their daily vitamins through a single serving of any one food….you have to eat a balanced diet throughout the day All said, I have no intention of removing dairy from my diet lol.

[@gradyjones7017]

I like how she throws in “technically” when saying he’s correct to make it seems like he’s not really right, even though he definitely is

[@spikemurphy5054]

It seems like she is fishing for discourse. I say this, to include some of the comments on here saying some shady stuff about her.

[@emmaellis2312]

I really like how MatPat handled this: he defended his original video, showing all the research and the thought process, while at the same time managing not to make Anne the enemy. This is how reaction videos should be handled. Bravo 👏

[@stephen1896]

I've been a fan of both youtubers for a while now and it was nice to see how this all played out. I'd be interested in Ann's take on his response but I don't think it's necessary either. They both can move forth with great content as usual.

[@stanlygirl5951]

I agree with you, Emma. And like you, Stephen, I would love to see Anne's response, if any.

[@kittykitties4220]

​@@stephen1896 Anne has replied. She made very immature comments about this ordeal on her original video. I can no longer support her.

[@jumpyyjasminee5315]

@@kittykitties4220 can I see where? /genq

[@kittykitties4220]

@@jumpyyjasminee5315 Go to her original video on milk, look at the comments, and find the ones that say "How To Cook That" replied

[@simplyhere7059]

as someone whos diabetic, i got like really upset when she was talking about serving sizes. they're never consistent, they're misleading, and the amount of servings per container is annoying. and i should know, since i have to look at the nutrition labels every day.

[@nebojsajovic2177]

A diabetic that reads 5-10 food labels a day knows better then a person that dedicated their entire life to researching food.

[@thecrow2583]

@@nebojsajovic2177 bro theres no way youre saying this guy is wrong. servings sizes are different. the entire point of a serving size is how much the vendor thinks the person will eat. did you not listen at all? i could say a single kayle leaf is a serving size for me, while 17 gallons of milk are also a single serving size for me.

[@B_H_J]

Puro 🤯

[@danielrebora1350]

@@nebojsajovic2177 A "serving size" is as small as companies can make it so that they can say their product has a lot of them. No food scientist is going to tell you that you cant eat more than 1 cup of ravioli for dinner.

[@l.c.8475]

​@@nebojsajovic2177 because for one it's information that's important to their survival and for the other it's just one more metric she needs to know about in her professional life.

[@superp2222]

I love how people target inaccurate info in GT and FT as a reason to deem these channels are bad. Theorizing is like 90% guesstimation anyway. And for this episode in particular its hilarious to see how much cherry picking was done to make Mat look bad

[@Shadow1Yaz]

Yeah, that’s true. Not being able to guess the plot of a movie that hasn’t come out is different than being wrong about the results of a specific study.

[@moizdayer1905]

I know, right? It’s like the judge asking Rhodes to read a specific sentence about the Ironman suit!

[@Savasaurus42]

I can tell how mad Matt Pat is but the fact that he's still smiling the entire time is hilarious lol

[@sasharudakov6423]

These theories have been the highlight of my week for over 7 years now. I understand that sometimes there are a few things that aren’t completely accurate but I learned so much from these four channels. These are always super fun, high equality, and educational. I will never understand why people hate on MatPat so much but I absolutely love him and his theories

[@MbitaChizi]

Dont read my name.😑

[@SgtLogOfWood]

@@MbitaChizi Either it's a rickroll or an ARG.

[@theprocat719]

its called a theory after all not facts

[@Snenjrbrdsn]

4 channels

[@justjackorwhatever]

@@MbitaChizi well well well another rickroll

[@Dufb]

“MatPat is a shill for veganism” MatPat: To summarise ,to get the most out of a buffet, only eat the meat

[@magik2410]

lmfao 💀

[@devianalvis2178]

*Sound of vegan shrieking in the background*

[@sod6290]

To make the buffet bankrupt we must choose meat less the carbs

[@custommediacreations]

@@sod6290 exactly, only meat.

[@wasis776]

Exactly what a vegan would say

[@patriotwriting6397]

Fantastic episode! You once said, “the facts don’t lie, but the arrangement of facts can lie.” This video illustrates your statement like a rockstar. Keep up the great work!

[@idiotbuster8662]

He should just say "i lie".

[@_vasty3776]

@@idiotbuster8662 How do you get "I lied" from this?

[@dummyyyyy6439]

@@idiotbuster8662 but he didn’t lie

[@IceColdGlare]

I honestly would be interested in that 90 minutes dissertation on bioavailability. Amazing video

[@Lovesickobsession19]

I love Anne's channel, but also notice she said "if you put this much kale in front of a child"- and it's a moot point because they both specifically said that a CHILD benefits from drinking milk, whereas ADULTS generally do not.

[@MikeOHaraYQM]

I had that exact same thought when seeing that clip. I see the subject framed in what to do as an adult to get that calcium if you can’t adequately process milk. So it kind of makes it a moot point in saying good luck getting the kid to eat something they are not really the target demographic for. (In this narrow context)

[@terrocai6081]

I was going to point that out too, good catch!

[@jonathann.5754]

Because only 1/3 people can drink milk as an adult But the majority of that third are 1st world countries. So it it is a viable argument

[@fonandoozmando5961]

But this much kale in front of anyone then... Same result

[@MrGamelover23]

Happy Edward Elrick noises.

[@charlessaintpe8574]

I, for one, would totally watch MatPat do a 90 minute dissertation on bioavailability.

[@kylerivera3470]

I would watch MatPat do a 90 minute dissertation on dissertations.

[@taylynn5202]

@@kylerivera3470 I agree with both, the passion he gives is *chefs kiss* 🤌🏻

[@garethmilo]

i would watch a portion of the vid because im confused by dissertation.

[@galadrielberg7887]

I came to see if anyone else had said this yet, I knew in my heart that I couldn't be alone. I would watch that video 100%

[@gautamr.singhvie3653]

SECONDED!! Proposed seconded, get it built!

[@sarahsmith6938]

Why is everybody hating on him. He's a genuine guy who wants to uncover things in games films and food secrets. I'm just saying he has human feelings too. Other than that I listen to all your vids and love your content

[@firefangzzz]

We're here because one lady got in her feelings over some milk. People were too dumb to stop listening to her when she tried to compare a glass of milk to a whole bowl of kale. Especially when she's acting as if she didn't know juicing or smoothies existed. People take wheatgrass shots for Christ's sake. If we took things out of liquid form, she was better off showing a bowl of kale and a whole cow, but we don't speak on common sense nowadays. So why is everybody hating on him? Because stupidity is contagious, and spreads quicker in tribes or groups.

[@nasirka71]

Thats pretty much it, no matter how nice and genuine you are, theres always someone that will hate you.

[@rayzerot]

Food Is a *very* emotionally charged topic for people. Many people literally make it part of their identity. Think "manly" men who brag about eating lots of BBQ or steaks. Or some vegans who talk about veganism every second of the day. True story- I couldn't even take a beans and grains meal into work without some of my coworkers thinking that I was secretly denigrating them for eating meat. It's wild.

[@Yerinder]

People H A T E being wrong, so if they find anything that confirms their established bias, they're going to trumpet it as fact

[@miniman649]

@@rayzerot honestly, people who make food their identity don't have an identity at all. They don't have personality or individuality. If their identity is literally 'vegan' or 'meat-eater' and little else, they sound like an awful person to be around.

[@ryngrace7719]

I feel like people commenting those things haven’t watch good theory at all or only watched a few videos and don’t realize matpat is an educated man with a degree and entire team to HELP him research and get all the facts from reliable sources.

[@Wake.Up.]

Yea the day you grow up and realize facts don't actually exist lol. It's a theory and all theories are subject to criticisms

[@enexua_07]

​@@Wake.Up.Fact exist idiot

[@eyeballkid4964]

“ It is precisely facts that do not exist only interpretations”

[@aff77141]

Exactly this. Most people who don't like matpat have literally never watched more than out of context clips of his videos, taken and warped specifically to make him look bad. It's absolutely wild.

[@juliarose9423]

Not gonna lie when I saw Anne and MatPat had seemingly contradictory videos I momentarily panicked because I trust the quality of both their research and feel confident in saying neither of them would intentionally spread misinformation. So I’m glad MatPat made this video because its a reminder that science is often more complex than can be reasonably condensed within a KZbin video.

[@GriffinZambia]

Dont read My Name😑.

[@Cat-Bird]

Good on you MatPat! :D

[@jellydarling1008]

Exact same response. I appreciate how he handled the it.

[@lawnmowerdude]

Ignoring the fact that she tried to taint his reputation at the start of her video.

[@bahramchoobin16]

same here

[@beepboop4103]

I love that not only is MatPat smart and well researched, but he can also PROVE he is smart and well researched.

[@Amoongus]

he has a team tho and a good one at that

[@erfanthered9801]

@@killnet5638 begone bot!

[@aj_cantsleep]

True!!!

[@BerriedDelish]

@@killnet5638 no one asked

[@bluaaahhhh]

This was really well said 👌

[@cmfdmallow4580]

Hey Matt, as a Chef I gotta tell you you are totally right, you will always find people that just want to analyze every thing they can because it makes them feel important. Sure we all make a misstep here and there but heck man nobody perfect, and a good chance everyone giving you crap has too much time. Stay the Corse my friend.

[@darylbiegtrucke4456]

Ive noticed everyone in the youtube comments of any food video is suddenly an expert or a representative of their country speaking on behalf of how it SHOULD be done. I wouldn't even read the comments if I was a food based youtuber.

[@bria8481]

Ann is a food scientist, obviously she will be more analytical. It’s not fair to just write her out like that. Neither of them are real, and that’s important to remember.

[@Buutotoy]

MatPat sure is calm but you can see his rage in his nose.

[@eaglescout1984]

The best response to internet critics: "We are _technically_ correct" followed by the Futurama clip. Oh, that feels so good. Never change, Theory Channel.

[@GriffinZambia]

Dont read my name!😑..

[@MrCodlajungl]

Theory ChannelS* But we are both correct, so no dramas, just insert a Futurama clip here 👍

[@paytonhaney4273]

He took the negative feedback and fired back like a champ. That was awesome to see. And with the added joke at the end? Golden. Bravo mat, you've won the day. Oh- and you were totally right to measure by the gram rather then the serving size. Otherwise a serving size of coke is more caloric than a serving size of coke (bottle > can, but you can see how confusing that is)

[@killnet5638]

MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео):. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXK0qYOJrLJnnpI

[@Jorfy]

kinda was thinking threw the whole video they some how falled behind

[@Dr.G_22]

Heck yeah!

[@ChefMonke07]

Your last sentence is absolutely correct. I'm a food technology major and we NEVER use serving sizes for nutritional informations. It's way too inconsistent.

[@metazoxan2]

The fact a so called "food expert" seriously says we should do exact comparison's between food by serving size is laughable. Either this person isn't nearly the expert she claims to be or she just wanted to take shots at Matpat and used that to make him seem wrong.

[@HHGamingOfficial]

Anyone who is hating on this guy clearly doesn't realize that he isn't a robot and is a human. Keep in mind, there is a reason that his videos are called THEORIES. All the information isn't 100% guaranteed, keep up the great work! You make my day and millions of others days better!

[@steffensgary]

I am sorry, but there is far too much evidence that MatPat is a robot.

[@BiFiGames]

"but that's just a theory" is a phrase people tend to ignore a lot

[@Thedestroyer2031]

@Dave Allen i reckon he’s joking on that one lol. maybe he is an AI and we’d have no idea :/

[@mischief2344]

yeah but this channel isnt about fictional works he should keep it factual

[@hopefulmayhem5744]

@@BiFiGames by the that logic it's okay for me to call you a rapest and it's okay because it's just a theory.

[@lindontaylor1525]

I can greatly respect the way you handled this. You wanted to defend your self but you didn't want to tear down the accusers. Good job handling this

[@adriahawkins980]

matpat really is saying “i will never mistake cabbage” while holding kale and “never mistake kale” while holding up cabbage. comedy genius.

[@elliecopterrr]

it made me wheeze LOL

[@Vermilion_Erebus]

Was so funny 😂😂😂

[@dandum09]

When I saw that I was like oh, I see.

[@isaacmcevoy5759]

good job you explained the joke

[@SheDidntComeBack]

I think people often forget about the 'theory' parts of the channels. And even for videos like the milk one, sometimes getting everything 100% correct is not as important as just getting you to think about things in a new way. I can imagine having to do research for some of these videos is like sifting for what feels like the right numbers.

[@VREIKEI]

naur frr his whole thing is making theories. people be acting like everything he says he thinks is the truth, all his videos are literally its just a theory like cmon😮‍💨

[@Swolidarity]

@@VREIKEI the issue is that his videos come across as so well researched and full of facts that most people actually take what he says seriously rather than treating it as some silly internet theory. Not to mention this isn’t fnaf or some sort of video game we are talking about, this is food. Facts about food aren’t theories lol Also calling misinformation as just a theory is a big excuse to not do proper research and just say whatever you want. That’s part of the reason I think mat rarely addresses criticism: his fans say it’s just a theory and call it a day. After all he’s not actually trying to pass it off as real and he definitely doesn’t come across as well researched right? Just a theory

[@yunoisreal757]

agree the channels is call a food/game.film theory which theory is a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained..aka they try to explain things that we do not know.. is like the theory the we humans are an evolution of an ape/monkey or the big bang theory... is what is believe how the universe came to birth.. is not a known fact..its a theory... people need to chill out

[@yunoisreal757]

@@Swolidarity anything in this world can be use as a theory or in a science experiment, its your choice to believe what he says 100% or not, he also gives you a idea to go from.. you take it and you do your own teacher and see if matt is right or wrong.. just attacking him because you believe its "misinformation" because you believe so.. its wrong.. prove him wrong don't attack him... prove it... commenting what you heard others says and thinking its true without you doing your own teachers is just hivemind levels of thinking

[@mrkc1831]

@DON'T WATCH MY VIDEOS sorry I read it I usually read account names before the comment. I wont do it tho,

[@ArmadiusC]

You can see Matt is actually mad and I can relate to that. Imagine doing research for weeks on a topic writing down every piece of knowledge you can find to your board clearing out false leads and putting up a script with the leftover data. Recording it, editing it putting fun jokes even if you're in a down mood or exhausted from all of the work yet still bringing out a video for your followers. Only to see someone come and say the video is misleading and the thumbnail is stolen.

[@MbitaChizi]

Dont read my name!😑.

[@benito23453]

MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео):. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXK0qYOJrLJnnpI

[@urbzninja]

and he does generally at least 2 of these a week across his 4 channels, plus he does the not lives and he is often researching many other theories at the same time. I saw annes video and wondered if matt was going to respond cause I was like I feel like she doesn't know the history on his channels and how much he puts into it.

[@TheDeathLove]

it' kind of shitty Ann specifically took a 20 second clip out of context as well ngl and commented with a condescending tone. I think this fuelled the toxicity in man's original video more. Wish her reputation gets on the run now realising what she has done.

[@raeisyahzafira38]

@@TheDeathLove Honestly I've watched her channel, there's a high chance that she just saw that one video and assumed he was another content farm. I doubt she meant actually hate at Mat

[@Jessica-sl7tv]

7:28 okay but that throw of the beans from Ash was personal 😂

[@the_enggineer9066]

I like how he's not trying to disprove Ann's video but rather explain the research and show how they're both correct.

[@JosThoSul]

They're both Technically Correct ©®™. The best type of correct!

[@BlazeIsTyping]

I'm genuinely shocked by how much hate that Team Theorist got/are getting over this. As a fan of both Ann and MatPat, I know Ann calls out a lot of uninformed (and often intentionally deceitful) creators-- but MatPat is definitely not one of them. You'd think people would spend more time grilling the people telling you to make DIY cellphone chargers out of molten metal...

[@foethefox793]

making a charger out of metal? thats actually done?

[@foethefox793]

diy ones as well......... they probably arent insulated meaning if you touch one and its plugged in..... you may just fall over dead painfully

[@frankbank8720]

@@foethefox793 nah you’d just be shorting the circuit hopefully most people have a fuse/breaker box which would be triggered if you don’t then you’d be in trouble.

[@dillongage]

@@emeraldbonsai I mean it's possible, with some copper wire but for the level of effort it would take it seems like a dumb idea. Also I have no idea how they make fast chargers. Probably not as simple as making a connection and splicing a wire.

[@codycale8598]

Both of FT videos about milk are just completely full of incorrect information. It's really sad that they even made this video and tried to defend the last one. FT would have been much better off had they just made an apology video and admitted their mistake. I mean come on, claiming that a calcium supplement has the same nutrients as a glass of milk? Only an idiot actually believes that. There is much more to milk than just calcium and vitamin D. FT is just pulling out the pieces of information that support their narrative and omitting the rest. Simply put, they are straight lying.

[@Paego_]

The theorist team is passionate about getting the facts straight, and it's so clear in this video. I also how Matt doesn't down any of the channels he's talking about, but in fact raises them up. I just really enjoy the Theory channels and the theory team.

[@ManicObsevations]

I mean these people have made a whole channel about educating people on thing about food, food myths, and experiments that a majority of people don't bother to look into (which includes me)

[@graycereai]

Jeez, just saw this after the quitting announcement and got scared for a second 😂

[@OmegaChance27]

Glad to know I'm not the only one XD

[@Shad0w_sp1te]

Yes I genuinely jumped up when I saw it

[@Bellablob78]

Literally same lol

[@Voidnirtos]

It's actually pretty cool how ppl take away different things from that milk video. I didn't actually care too much about the nutritional stuff cuz it's not like I'm going to change my preference from a video. I actually walked away from that video rethinking about advertisements and how it's really used to push certain ideas to the public. Made me a lot more critical when I see ads for foods and just items in general.

[@danielestrada3390]

Im shrprised ppl take this videos seriously, I just watch it for entertainment. If I wanna know something, I research it myself so theres as little bias as possible, etc.

[@guss77]

@@danielestrada3390 you probably meant "so there's only my own biases"

[@Av-te7ze]

I’m pretty sure that was the main point of the video, the rest was more of a formality because it’s a food channel. I don’t think his point was ever to change peoples diets

[@danielestrada3390]

@@guss77 nah. Im not the type of person who won't stop researching until I found the answer similar to me. If there are several studies proving me wrong, why wont I accept that?

[@guss77]

@@danielestrada3390 A. Good for you 👍✌️ (not cynical - really - more power to you for challenging yourself). B. People in general have biases - you can't avoid these, that's why double-blind research protocols exist. Saying you have no biases basically amounts to having a bias and lying to yourself about it.

[@gummygrenade]

I like how you tell that he’s furious, but he’s still extremely respectful. That shows significant character. Well done, MatPat, well done.

[@blanktom6049]

yeah, but the way he manipulates the data and the situation. what kind of person would do something like that? I would never want to be on his bad side.

[@sabrinagessert2742]

lol not really. The bar for men is so low. If Ann had put out the same energy that he did in this video, I'd bet she'd get ripped apart for being bitchy and rude. But meanwhile, MatPat is super condescending and rolls his eyes in response to her. If that's signs for significant character, then that's kinda yikes dude.

[@blanktom6049]

@@sabrinagessert2742 the thing is - he had to really go out of his way to manipulate the data to show that he was "right". I wonder if that was just his ego or if it had anything to do with him being corrected by a woman. I guess we'll never know.

[@paulj4955]

@@blanktom6049 "Manipulating data" is an interesting way to see it, since he isn't trying to persuade anybody to take a side. He clearly boils the video down to saying that he doesn't think anybody's really in the wrong. And I don't feel like this should have to be defended, but he's not manipulating data, he is bringing up another perspective, like Ann did, to show that nutrition in and of itself has many other factors than just what is stated on the nutritional label of a product.

[@blanktom6049]

@@paulj4955 This will probably be deleted as i've tried posting this several times and each time it gets removed. But here's my take on one example of how he is manipulating the information (re broccoli): 1) In his video he compares a serving size of broccoli to a serving size of milk, even though earlier in the video he says his team didn't compare by serving size, they compared gram to gram 2) The source he uses has 1 cup of broccoli as 180 mg of Calcium even though every other source you encounter has 1 cup of broccoli well under 100mg. 3) All other sources include both volume (cups) and weight (grams). He made a point that his team doesn't use serving size due to it's variability so they used grams. Why didn't he use grams for broccoli if it's so readily available? The answer is that every other source that is out there would show that you would absorb far more calcium by milk (gram per gram or serving by serving) except for the one dubious source he pulled, which coincidently goes against the methodology he stated earlier in this video.

[@bookmarvel1]

At 8:45 when they were talking about how a huge pile of kale seemed like an outrageous amount of kale to be more than a single glass of milk, and then MatPat held up a glass of puréed kale, I think that was a really good concrete example of how with food nutrition and stuff it REALLY depends on how you look at it. Because that big bowl of raw whole kale was just about a glass of purée, and this wasn’t mentioned but if you cook kale it’s also gonna appear smaller and maybe would be closer to a single serving than in its raw form (I’m not saying it is, idk, just trying to give another example)

[@starlight4599]

It absolutely shrinks down as you suggested! ~200g of kale is a totally normal serving size, in some recipes you need even more per person. But you loose a bit of calcium in the cooking process of course.

[@MercuryA2000]

I don't even eat kale and I knew it did that. Most leafy vegetables act the same way.

[@thaddeusk]

@@MercuryA2000 and spinach shrinks down even more. You can cook a whole bag of baby spinach down to basically just a few bites of food :P.

[@Jeanette.P]

the cup of milk would look similar if it had that much air in it too

[@Quader417]

lol I’m pretty sure everyone who has ever cooked kale knows it shrinks a LOT and i would also assume that someone isn’t eating just kale for a meal so as long as you mix and match what you eat its very hard to not get the nutrients you need now a days its when you eat the same things over and over where problems come in and as someone else pointed out his video was focusing on adults while hers was focusing on children😂

[@themarvelanddcmarshlands]

Love how Mat debunked the debunk

[@sonicpoweryay]

Can’t wait for Ann to debunk it back

[@liljammy6434]

​@@sonicpoweryayShe didn't, she had no research and was very unprofessional

[@adarshminj2543]

lol ann was right here, he is just playing with words

[@lunaw2174]

@@adarshminj2543 no, Ann was clearly misrepresenting serving sizes to seem right (using a massive plate of Kale when you could easily make a smoothie of it smaller than a glass of milk). Completely twisted the points made in the video("a kid wouldn't eat that much kale" when the point was adult alternatives because ADULTS often can't get calcium through milk as easily), and clearly threw some passive aggressive shade by hinting at plagiarism. The idea that someone pointing out actual scientific approaches to this question, is somehow "playing with words" is disingenuous and just flat out wrong. You're just jumping on a hate train for the sake of hating matpat.

[@CivilCaine]

@@adarshminj2543 source: trust me bro

[@ericcooke2661]

As a chef, I can say that raw kale has only become popular in the past 15 years. If one cooks that much kale, it will shrink to what would be consider one serving. So, technically, Matpat was correct on the portion size, the best kind of correct.

[@skylergarza8371]

Yeah, i remember when it was so cheap it was a throwaway garnish on basically EVERY dish even from cheapo restaurants

[@41052]

My aunt would put tons of kale into my eggs and hotdogs. Maybe I’m being overdramatic since I don’t remember that much, but I think that would be great bowl to put in with the eggs and hotdogs. Definitely eatable in a day.

[@Q-Gamez]

It's good when you have a professional prove someone correct

[@andrewjones1395]

As soon as you mentioned "serving sizes", I knew exactly where this was going. Okay, maybe not all the stuff about bioavailability, but absolutely the "talking about food is difficult" talk. I was immediately brought back to high school, talking about how you need to label your graphs and info in the most relevant way for your experiment (don't measure the height of a bouncing ball in mm or miles, for example) And secondly, news reports on scientific studies radically distorting facts for interesting headlines. The one I recall best was "drinking red wine helps you get pregnant" - the facts were, "drinking red wine produces a small amount of a hormone that is one of the hundreds that can be involved in conception". And the annoying part is, people either believe it blindly because "it's science, right?" or it undermines future scientific reports because "remember that one time they were super wrong?". Which is *ABSOLUTELY* a problem I have with people who dismiss the Theory channels based on a single bad one. Honestly, great work addressing both of these in this response. For all the Sans is Ness hate, there's a reason I still watch your content after so many years. Continue doing what you're doing, and make as many of these videos as it takes for people to learn that science and research is difficult work, and you can only do your best, every time.

[@СтепанБандера-м1в]

MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео):. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXK0qYOJrLJnnpI

[@SnakeBP]

You may have some good points but as of serving size, it's all different. It will always be different. This is the best he can do when some or everything can't be the same.

[@bloompey2213]

Despite him being visibly mad, he really took his arguments calmly and gave a 20 minute reason as to why the internet should shut up instead of bringing unwanted drama, well done matpat, well done.

[@killnet5638]

MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео):. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXK0qYOJrLJnnpI

[@GriffinZambia]

Dont read my name!😑..

[@localmenace3043]

Sometimes, and hear me out here - sometimes the internet has the right to criticize and point out when someone’s done something off. Crazy, I know.

[@endertobias1908]

@@localmenace3043 did you even watch the video bro?

[@TheCrazyCapMaster]

@@localmenace3043 so what was off?

[@yendomendostories8824]

I’m not one to post hate comments, unless a video is offensive, and that’s because of how I hate the idea of hate. So just seeing hate comments anywhere is enough to make me sad, but when it’s directed to a channel I love and the COMMENTS have some misinformation in them, I get even more upset. You did a good job dealing with this Food Theory!

[@kelseyshy1196]

I have never, in all my time of watching the Theory channels, thought that the team didn't do their research. They state all of their sources throughout the video which you can easily double check. They're not perfect but I always have faith in their videos. Matpat obviously cares very much about his videos and research, and would never intentionally mislead people, imo.

[@mentaya11]

Amen. Totally agree. They do their research. Mistakes can and are still made, but I'm always confident I am seeing the end product of hours of work and not a hastily read Wikipedia article. That means a lot to me.

[@John6-40]

Tbh they're some of the most well researched vids on KZbin period. Some of it (particularly on the game channel) includes some speculation and a ridiculous amount of overthinking, but they're always well researched.

[@icantbelieveyouvedonethis1813]

totally agree!! even with a large team, they're still human and stuff slips through the cracks. mistakes happen, but what matters is correcting those mistakes or going in more depth when pointed out

[@darcieclements4880]

You haven't seen some of the older ones then. Experts in their fields generally hold a pretty low option once they see a video on their topic, though I do appreciate what they have been putting into nutrition, one of the harder topics, even though I have yet to see a single video ever going to the actual concerns about dairy among scientists. That said, I blacklisted these channels for failure to self correct a long time ago, so I never saw the original milk one, maybe they hit on it. No idea. I am still waiting for them to fix what they said about my area of science.

[@justanormalytber4850]

agreed

[@noooiisloth]

i love the "ah yes the subtle suggestion of plagiarism" you can tell he's pissed, as he should be, but he manages to keep his cool, showing his profesionalism

[@mantis-manthegreat]

Also you see in the OG video the thumbnail comes from a literal commercial! (We see a clip/gif, you can tell its a remade frame from the logo on the milk in both versions)

[@Broeckchen]

Are we watching the same video? His tone throughout the whole video sounds so pissy and offended to me. Nothing like his usual enthusiasm.

[@aquila7602]

​@@Broeckchennow that you mention it, I can kinda hear it? But that's pretty much a given since he's literally being accused left and right of things he most definitely is not. He's still human, after all.

[@Broeckchen]

@@aquila7602 I'd like to recommend to you "Emily Ruins Adam Ruins Everything" for comparison. Same basic premise - edutainment show being challenged on their information. But I'd like you to look at the incredible difference in tone. If you provide content you frame as "science", you're quickly held to a pretty high standard. It's especially important in food science, because that's an area especially riddled with mis- and disinformation. Someone who loves to spread information should be able to put their ego aside enough to not bristle at every challenge and "attack", but instead reevaluate their approach and research. I mean, consider what happened here. A food *scientist,* an expert in the field, held up a clip of misleading information as one of many examples of similar sentiments and added some context to it. Matpat *could* have ignored the rude comments and go to the more levelheaded scientist directly, developing a better piece of information collaboratively. Mat mentions, for example, the issues of comparing food on a nutritional level. A food scientist is the perfect person to consult on this and develop a good measuring or comparison system with. It could have been an amazing collaboration. Ann is often open to comparing approaches and developing experiments together, she has approached other creators about this before when they challenged *her* information. So why did Mat instead focus on the rude comments and on how he was totally actually correct? In the video I recommended above, Adam is at one point confronted with a similar issue where the information he provided was correct, but the way he presented it gave people the wrong impression. His response about that? Admitting that if he wants to educate, being correct is not is only duty. He also needs to communicate the correct information well and understandably. I totally get being angry. But like... if you love truth, information and science, and if you love educating people, you should be able to vent off-camera and approach your script and performance without that emotional bias. At least enough to focus on "did I do this right?" over "am I technically correct?".

[@koenammons4891]

@Broeckchen That is fair but it has to go both ways and Ann Did say some things that look a little accusatory especially for what was considered wrong/misleading

[@TraxisOnTheLines]

Normally, a video defending yourself against another video is just a drama source, but I'm really glad you made this. This is an incredibly accurate and in depth look at just how professional and researched these videos are.

[@alexanderboeve8769]

cabbaga and kale are actually both varieties of Brassica oleracea. So in essence the same plant with pretty much the exact same amounts of nutrients 🙂

[@WhoPlaysTheFool]

I like how people say Matpat and the team don't do research when they literally have their sources right there in the description

[@Edward256]

People of the Internet are illiterates. Change My Mind

[@WhoPlaysTheFool]

@DON'T WATCH MY VIDEOS mate bugger off with your spam

[@aidenpearce5275]

more people need to list sources

[@WhoPlaysTheFool]

@@aidenpearce5275 if I come across something on the internet without sources listed I simply disregard it, more people need to do that.

[@aidenpearce5275]

@@WhoPlaysTheFool yeah, there's also the people who ignore 20 sources telling them their wrong and points to one singular one that agrees

[@tatsumi_y33t]

Funny how people forget the main thing “it’s just a theory” the phrase these channels are based on. It’s just a theory with facts behind it, either mostly correct or wrong.

[@karl-heinz5924]

@DON'T WATCH MY VIDEOS shut your mouth bot.

[@jneff6456]

The word 'Theory' holds more weight in scientific circles than most other people's 'facts'. In other words, for some there is no 'just' when talking about theory.

[@christinaknapp1980]

"Theory" means something different in the vernacular than it does in scientific jargon. In the vernacular, or layman's terms, it means a guess, claim, or supposition that may or may not be provable. In science, it means a claim, hypothesis, or question that has been tested to the point of being confirmed as fact. Saying "it's just a hypothesis" doesn't have the same ring to it, though.

[@tatsumi_y33t]

@@jneff6456 makes sense why people get angry, but it’s all in the fun and not to make anything serious

[@tatsumi_y33t]

@@christinaknapp1980 very true but like MatPat always says it’s just for fun, these vids are educational and just some facts and it’s not supposed to be taken seriously. Maybe sometimes it has but it’s not what these channels are made around

[@aakmenos1517]

I would love to listen to MatPat explain bioavailability for 90 minutes.

[@СтепанБандера-м1в]

MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео):. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXK0qYOJrLJnnpI

[@GriffinZambia]

Dont read my name!😑.

[@juliasings6131]

The longest videos are always so interesting! Don't know if I'd be into one about bioavailability but there's really only one way to find out lol

[@TigerStyleFanMIZ]

I'm glad I'm not the only one. lol

[@3trickeneers889]

Same

[@louloustar7807]

Anyone else notice he credited her in the video, but her who accused him of stealing someone else’s work didn’t credit anyone who’s content she reacted to 🤔

[@ceceliakittyface5301]

I don’t know why anyone was so pressed about this. I don’t think Food Theory would purposefully give out misinformation. At the same time, they aren’t dietitians or nutritionists and are bound to make mistakes. I was going to keep drinking milk regardless of what their video said. It’s not that big of a deal. Cut them some slack.

[@midnightfallenangel2965]

exactly, well said. Im not gonna stop drinking milk because someone makes a theory about it and says we shouldnt drink it. Keyword: Theory. If people want real information, why would they come to a theory video? The internet just loves to cry over literally nothing.

[@BreadstixTheAnimator]

@@hhjhj393 its sad how this is the truth nowadays lol

[@thefloppydingo]

Exactly - this. I wasn't going to stop drinking milk, or eating cheese etc. just because of Mat's video. Was it interesting? Yes. The genetics of lactase production was interesting to hear about and something to add into dietary decisions as we grow older if we start to have problems eating dairy. But when I looked back at what I remembered about that video it wasn't about the dietary information - the stuff I remembered most clearly was about the propaganda style commercials the dairy industry used. If anything - the biggest takeaway for me was to watch what we're told more closely because people are more than willing to mislead us for personal gain.

[@ceceliakittyface5301]

@@hhjhj393 I have learned a new word today, thanks for that! It definitely sounds like it applies here.

[@stephen1896]

I can't speak for anyone else, but in Ann's case I interpreted it as she was making her point and came across MatPat's video being one of the higher-viewed ones on the subject. People going off in the comments to MatPat is surprising to me too. You have to take any video like his with a grain of salt. Even the well-versed scientists could be wrong perhaps at times on their own channels.

[@TheDovahBorn]

This is the maturity of science I love to see on the channel. Not one person saying, "No, you're wrong, I'm right, shut up." But both people proposing theories, and increasing knowledge instead of trying to claim a "win" on the internet. Props to both of you, honestly

[@Celewooga]

@DON'T WATCH MY VIDEOS ok i wont

[@ThaGr1m]

did you forget that she started the commentary by throwing immense shade at mattpatt by implying he steals content and thumbnails? because to me it feels like one side is being overly aggressive when discussing a gray area which is supposed to be their expertise, while the other is a hobby guy bringing forth a slew of evidence and reasoning while being courteous and more informative

[@TheDovahBorn]

@@ThaGr1m I did forget, my bad

[@LighthouseCape]

@@ThaGr1m You got a point there. She was already in passive-aggressive mode when she started off with "he steals thumbnails and contents", giving her audience an unfair bad impression from the beginning. I guess she was trying to play the role of a "judge of youtube justice, who gives punishment to the criminal youtuber, Mat!!!" rather than calmly debunking the error or their difference in their stance. Kind of an unprofessional move.

[@the_toothbrush]

can you dumb this down my brain is running on a delay

[@Coolnerd89]

The biggest issue I have with investigation today is that people will search for information/evidence to support their theory instead of finding a theory to support the information/evidence. I'm glad Matpat took the time to actually explain the science behind Ann's argument so that we get the full picture. That's good science right there.

[@guccistomper7385]

That's what we call in the biz, confirmation bias. Scientists and writers are taught to avoid it like the plague

[@GriffinZambia]

Dont read my name!😑..

[@iambumbo7534]

@@GriffinZambia you stink of nuts

[@kennethM]

not sure if you described that right but we definitely get the point and it's well said. It is a breath of fresh air.

[@joey_687]

I FUCKING LOVE THIS everyone is so respectable no one is trying to say "i know better and you're stupid" that's just science one person says A another person trying to debunk it and the first person trying to prove why he's right 10/10 episode 👍

[@Draon029]

I would stick around for a 90 minute video essay on bioavailability just because I enjoy listening to matpat talk.

[@Saitaina]

I like his voice, the scripts, and the editing - and I like long edutainment vids...and Google actually knew the word "edutainment" yet constantly misspells everything else.

[@frostkitsunelive7661]

I will see you both there when the video drops

[@reapshotgaming]

@@frostkitsunelive7661 ill join you all

[@whiphore]

I would too I think Matt would be an amazing teacher

[@jesuscanales3990]

Me too, extra points because it's an interesting topic

[@xxbennyboygamerxx]

this is probably the best "response" video i've ever seen tbh. its well formatted, its entertaining, it uses facts, and gets to the point. great video

[@GriffinZambia]

Dont read My Names!

[@Eel-f5s]

the joke at the end made me laugh lol Not relevant but I just need people to know that the joke at the end was funny

[@calliopecrane-brown746]

I love this video. As an avid watcher of both How to Cook That and Food Theory, I definitely found myself confused between these two videos. I was also fully prepared for Mat to never see or ignore Ann's video. But instead, we got a useful exchange of information to clear up confusion. Sure, they were both a little passive-aggressive. But at the heart, Ann found what appeared to her to be untruthful information, and Mat responded by trying to clear up the misunderstanding. A respectful exchange of information.

[@GriffinZambia]

Dont read my name!

[@angycat4262]

I do love the petty tho

[@arshiaprogaming7947]

@@GriffinZambia okay we won’t.

[@SomniSerotonin]

@@GriffinZambia we don't and won't

[@SomniSerotonin]

@@GriffinZambia ratio

[@Enderia2]

What I’ve learned 12 minutes into the video: 1 serving does not equal 1 serving of the same exact thing.

[@waterwitch1690]

I feel like people are forgetting that this is called “food theory” as in, he is making scientific theories based off of evidence he has collected. He is not a nutritionist telling you what to do or how to eat, he is literally just saying “in theory, milk has less calcium”

[@1Blue-Moon]

well, more so "in hypothesis" because theories are a very agreed upon answer because there's enough evidence to support it while hypotheses are just an answer backed up with evidence, but I do understand what you're saying

[@Snootz33]

@@1Blue-Moon That’s the scientific definition of a theory but the english definition is basically a series of ideas for an “explanation.”

[@1Blue-Moon]

@@Snootz33 oh ok, my bad

[@Snootz33]

@@1Blue-Moon words have so many double meaning and uses, it’s all good

[@1Blue-Moon]

@@Snootz33 especially in America, we just had to decide to do literally almost everything different

[@Strawberry_cake881]

I can’t believe how disrespectful people can be sometimes... This channel and it’s members clearly do their research. And we shouldn’t call out eachothers mistakes and then shame them. Like Matpat said, we’re human. We make mistakes all the time without even realising. I’m also glad that Matpat was so calm about this and still after this storm respects people. I think I would have just made an hour long video just so I could explain every little thing (even if it had no point whatsoever) just out of spite. I hope you guys are doing well!💖

[@promemer3273]

I totally agree with you

[@shopnil4]

I really like how well he took the criticism. He addressed all the points, admitted where he was wrong, and didn't attack the other side.

[@Werewolf914]

Her fans could definitely learn from his Maturity, I'm sure they left their rage filled comments without even watching that video.

[@dariuspemula]

Unlike the other side.

[@casheverett6300]

@DON'T WATCH MY VIDEOS Listen to his name. He is a scammer trying to get you to buy fake items. You will never get your product and will lose your money.

[@Ren_PRG]

@DON'T WATCH MY VIDEOS just delete your channel dude if you dont want your video getting view and dont even spam this kind of comment it never help

[@canby_5546]

agreed. if it was me i would just curl up and cry for 2 hours.

[@maybless4293]

“This cabbage with is Cale “ *proceeds to show them in wrong positions.* that had me dead😂

[@Michylawhty]

You're underselling yourself, MatPat. I would definitely have the patience for a 90 minute dissertation on bio-availability.

[@evilshadowshadow1249]

Me too i can watch 90 minute long video if its from food theory channel.

[@gustavowadaslopes2479]

We just wathed long hour vídeos about old Nickelodeon shows.

[@gustavowadaslopes2479]

Clearly this is the next logical step.

[@warriorcatkitty]

SAME xD

[@ChaoticJstar]

i agree with this

[@megatrondeadpool3116]

I like how she says that kids aren't going to want to eat that much kale like we haven't already established that they can drink milk and we're looking for alternatives for adults who can't.

[@Kingskid-ci8tf]

EXACTLY

[@Kingskid-ci8tf]

That annoyed me as well - it was basically a straw man fallacy and pissed me off😅 but Mat was able to handle it all completely professionally - still wish Mat had re-pointed that out, that this was specifically for adults looking at science/nutrition for themselves, but i know he didn’t have to restate himself

[@WiggyWamWam]

Her video wasn’t a rebuttal to this video. It was a video about milk that focused on kids, and looked at misleading claims in his video that COULD HAVE BEEN applied to a child’s diet. She included many videos that she was responding to.

[@WiggyWamWam]

@@Kingskid-ci8tf It would be a straw man if she was trying to rebut his whole video, which she was not

[@mantis-manthegreat]

​@@WiggyWamWam The thing is, you can't apply an adult's intake for calcium to a child. That is what MatPat is talking about- different ways to get calcium, as adults can't handle milk as easy as children. You straight up can't compare the two. This isn't even considering that if you're lactose intolerant, Mat is definitely right and milk is a no-no for getting calcium.

[@henrychen4947]

Like MatPat says in every video "it's just a theory". Theories are designed to be supported and disproven, that's just part of the field of science. Two well renowned scientists can do the exact same experiment and come to two different, but completely valid conclusions.

[@ThePrinceofkindfulness]

And then there’s my maths teacher getting mad at our class for getting different results :,)

[@joekent5935]

Facts

[@TheMrQuepe]

@@ThePrinceofkindfulness I mean... If you get a wrong answer by using a wrong procedure it is still wrong, even in science.

[@Luci-rv1hl]

@@joekent5935 no, theories.

[@Kali-bs7oj]

to be fair she never judged the theory, just the numbers he gave. Which isn’t a theory, numbers are a fact

[@imhere3445]

I wish the date on this video said today.

[@KSDawg]

fym

[@TimeBucks]

MatPat has the highest quality of hater blockers on

[@EEEEEEEE]

‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎E‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎

[@BobSmith-qq3ig]

if only he could have scambot blockers, but that's a youtube thing

[@LuigiGaming839]

@Akako 🔞👇 Shut, are you bot?

[@firegamer4541]

Yep that’s where all the points on the skill tree went

[@xedrexgaming9579]

Mans got the Ray-Ban of hater blockers B)

[@jonathanpotter6307]

This is the perfect response video. Standing your ground and standing behind your team, without the common "You are trash for thinking I'm not perfect" take. Her video was not like that. You did great Matpat. This would be a great video for teaching debate tactics and response.

[@thefrubblewarrior4678]

I don’t think so. I’d feel he’d be an egdeworth in terms of debate: willing to do anything to get a verdict. He even used to do debates on his channel in episodes called deadlock.

[@theblackoutexplorer2658]

@@thefrubblewarrior4678 deadlock is wasn’t really serious tho. Just seemed like those fun nerd debates you have with friends.

[@thefrubblewarrior4678]

@@theblackoutexplorer2658 but it was still a debate! And they still brought up actual points!

[@TheKrossRoads]

@@thefrubblewarrior4678 Using Deadlock to say that Matpat is a debater that will do anything to win is like saying that Bruce Willis is a cold-hearted killer because he played one in a few movies.

[@enviousgaming3250]

@@TheKrossRoads or also saying that a kindergartner who steals a toy they like from kindergarten they will become a bank robber as an adult

[@belvasalvoahi263]

What I find interesting is that the most “misinformation,” came from commenters who blew up a small, 3-ish min segment where a lot of the info was agreed with, into “she made a *whole video* debunking it,” and “the theory channels are full of misinformation.” Obviously the disparity in information was an issue and personally I’m glad it was addressed. I think we are all a bit smarter both about milk and content consumption because of it, but exaggerating it to that extent in itself seems like misinformation. I’m aware of course that these are KZbin comments, where communication is not always the most effective and they aren’t to be taken so seriously, but I guess what I’m saying is it’s important in any context to keep things in perspective.

[@KitsyX]

Agreed, perspective and context seem to be things that many people struggle with... Many seem to judge ideas based on who says them and not on the merits of the idea in question... The game can become person vs. person/group vs group instead of trying to find the actual facts... People like to exaggerate too lol. Oh well...

[@shockwave8417]

What the haters did is the bare definition of the expression give them an inch, they'll take mile.

[@EEEEEEEE]

‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎E‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎

[@kenjianimates]

i just eat veg and have a haealthy diet thats really it it doesnt have to be exact

[@mattgio1172]

Ann was replying earlier in the comments of her video saying that MATPAT is still misdirecting the audience, using incorrect numbers, and is simply wrong. It's unbelievable to see. Go look at her replies in the comments on that video. I think it's very disrespectful.

[@Xion_Toshiro]

I don't worry about serving sizes, calories, etc I follow a simple philosophy, on food - "eat when you're hungry, stop when you're full"

[@sarcasm-aplenty]

i think bio-availability should be noted on the food labels, seems useful.

[@JohnSmith-ox7xc]

100 bio-availability

[@Eddieddg1]

Yeah, but they won't since it would in some cases make the product sell less.

[@danfr]

There's more than just basic bio-availability wrong with nutrition labels. Calories themselves are a mess. I was stunned when I realized that fibre is included in calories. Because IIRC calories are based on what will burn, because it's a good way to measure the energy in food, and fibre contains energy and will burn just like sugars. But your body doesn't absorb energy from fibre and we specifically include it in food because it's not absorbed and has other benefits.

[@kindlin]

@@danfr There are different types of fiber, and some have calories associated with them. Insoluble fiber, like the hard fibrous plant material, doesn't have caloric value.

[@yes_and_so_what]

that's just going to destroy the spinach industry, so the ones at the top wont allow it

[@KatAttack61]

Hey matpat, I've literally paused the video at the serving size comparison part, just to say that in Australia we have the nutritional values for each food items individual serving as well as the nutritional values per 100 gms or 100mls. This makes food comparisons so much easier for me to work out sodium and potassium levels in 2 different products regardless of serving sizes.

[@iamagi]

Are there countries where this is not true?

[@GriffinZambia]

Dont read my name!😑..

[@killnet5638]

MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео):. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXK0qYOJrLJnnpI

[@KatAttack61]

@@iamagi well I feel like mat would have brought it up if food labels said this where he lives. To me it seems like the us doesn't do it.

[@antiloser-NFS]

@@iamagi In the US it just shows content per serving and tells you the serving size in weight/mass. if you wanted to do a comparison like that you would have to do the math yourself.

[@zsedforty]

I'm so proud of you. Honestly, not many people could handle this sort of thing in such a noble way.

[@GriffinZambia]

Dont read my name!😑..

[@killnet5638]

MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео):. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXK0qYOJrLJnnpI

[@soaptj]

Agreed

[@kylerivera3470]

Your comment was so nice that even the bots wanted to say hi!

[@starlight_garden]

Timestamps / suggested chapters: 00:00 Intro 02:09 Background 02:53 The subtle suggestion of plagiarism 03:53 Anne Reardon's video 04:12 Agreement 05:45 Our video 07:23 Visual mistake 07:57 Per gram vs. per serving 13:31 Bioavailability 17:00 Conclusion 19:35 Endcards