Food Theory: STOP Eating Thanksgiving Turkey!

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It’s an age-old debate that spans all the way back to the Pilgrims: should you eat turkey or ham on Thanksgiving? Okay, maybe it doesn’t go back that far. But it is a question that comes up every year around Theorist HQ. Today we’ll decide once and for all which meat you should eat on Thanksgiving. Trust us, you’ll be grateful by the end.
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[@FoodTheory]

Which side are YOU on: Ham or Turkey? 🦃

[@Sourduckbitterdime]

Ham

[@user-zb4dp4vr8l]

awesome

[@Asoanq2728]

Not american

[@Dudebro-xp8dv]

ham

[@Roaviator747]

Hello

[@cristalguldin4950]

In reading the title to this episode I feel like Matpat is just trying to get the rest of the us to eat less turkey on thanksgiving so that he can have more of it.

[@NathanaelCrapo]

definitely seems like it. Though I prefer ham 100x more than turkey, there's literally no contest in my taste buds.

[@ellybanelly3656]

Well that's just a theory!

[@yodaflyz]

​@@ellybanelly3656"A food theory. Bon Apatite. " 😆

[@sarfarazgaming121]

Why the Frick would he do that? Team theorist isn't large enough and that just seems like too much work

[@voidbreather7405]

@@sarfarazgaming121 r/whooosh

[@thatrandomredengine9430]

Matpat: DON’T EAT TURKEY! Also Matpat: *is seen buying a turkey for thanksgiving*

[@argentandrold5732]

Yeah

[@Chineseisntalanguageapparently]

⁠@@argentandrold5732that’s exactly what I’m saying

[@KatelynDombach]

“A turkey”? He got to write 2 off as business expenses a couple years ago and judging by his expressions in that video I’d bet he has insisted on 2 plus turkeys ever since.

[@boomknight1015]

Even when you make good content, you have to click bait really hard

[@ramonandrajo6348]

@@boomknight1015 Salty. XD

[@6Celeste]

I love when matpat brings in a third option in his theories, like "AND THE BEST OPTION IS (INSERT NAME OF A THIRD PARTY WE NEVER EXPECTED), So you may be wondering why but as I was researching this episode-"

[@Fae_Marie]

I’m allergic to poultry. It’s a rare allergy, so people are always shocked when I tell them. A common response I get is “but what do you eat in thanksgiving?!” Ham, duh! I’ve also been told a few times that I’m not missing much lol.

[@juliamartin3759]

I have finally found my opposite. I’m allergic to pork and red meat.

[@lemondoesart6560]

honestly, they're not wrong. poultry is a decent meat, but it's definitely not something that I go for if there are other meats available. just kinda weird in flavour and texture for some reason, doesn't help the bones get squishy

[@animagkrasver9872]

@@lemondoesart6560 it's the opposite for me

[@stock_movie1875]

Rare? 40% of Americans have some form of poultry allergies. Usually eggs.

[@ChiefMakes]

@@lemondoesart6560may be bu thicken and rice is amazing

[@American_Nomad078]

I didn't think this was ever a debate because in my family we have turkey and ham for thanksgiving. I assumed it was similar for most people but I guess not.

[@I_Post_Roblox_Heat]

Matpat commented on my video

[@EpicRandomness555]

Yeah we also do both.

[@I1p]

Same, I assumed it was the same but it’s apparently not.

[@Clownbunnycosplay]

Same!! I thought it was common

[@liamweeden-jz4wn]

Same ere mate

[@tpierce104]

It took seven years, but MatPat went from riding ostriches to eating them.

[@zackduffer9069]

Time to eat those Thanksgiving Chocobos!

[@SirVG]

@@zackduffer9069 Kweh?!

[@Slyeyewalker]

We did a chicken this year, crispy, juicy, and spatchcocked. Btw we have flattened our bird every Turkey Day for the past three years. So I think your spatchcock video influenced my kitchen more than I realized 😂

[@ookamigin]

2:34 that editing gave me a jumpscare 😭

[@ROBBOBBYJUNIOR]

What actually is that 💀💀💀

[@Nekogadaisukidesu.]

As a Canadian, I was a bit confused on why this episode came out late then remembered matpat is American. Happy Thanksgiving 2 u guys!

[@itsherobrine2505]

Lol and happy late Thanksgiving to you, my Canadian friend! 😊😁 tbh ur comment is underrated

[@timmybarakino7514]

hope u had a good thanksgiving

[@kat.Callisto.]

happy very late thanksgiving my fellow canadian

[@MegaBrainBoi]

As a south African, I don't celebrate Thanksgiving. However I do agree with the ostrich argument. Ostrich is one of the only animals that don't have wasted parts. From the feathers to the meat to the bones, every part of it can be used. Ostrich is one of the best things I've ever eaten. I've had ostrich neck, burgers and even drumsticks

[@neverknowntruelove]

Interesting...never had it

[@ambersioux]

are the necks of ostriches chewy and tough? what does it taste like!!

[@TheSilverfishProject]

Ostrich Burgers? Sounds good

[@bubbledoubletrouble]

Every part can be used? What do you use the beak for?

[@JetstreamGW]

@@bubbledoubletrouble I, too, would like to know what the other parts of the ostrich are used for.

[@kodabear1996]

I love jellied cranberry sauce! Given the choice between a "regular" Thanksgiving meal and a can of cranberry sauce, I would choose the cranberry sauce.

[@ScorpiEmmi]

My family started deep frying our turkey a few years ago and now that's the only way the whole family wants it. My parents have to take the fryer along to whoever's house we're having it that year and fry it then. It takes maybe a half hour to an hour and leaves the turkey's juices in and cooks it really nice. As for the stuffing, my grandmother used to make it without the turkey years ago and when she died my parents got her recipe and now make it every year. This is honestly the best way to make your Thanksgiving meal.

[@TotallyHuman]

When my family went from 'literally not enough tables' to just mom and I, we chose to celebrate how WE wanted. Getting take out pizza the day before. No cooking, no foods you don't like, just yummy goodness, and a bonding of formed traditions.

[@CthulhuTheory]

Your family chooses to have leftover pizza for thanksgiving? Yikes...

[@Anonymous-bi5pv]

​@@CthulhuTheory I can smell the elitism through the screen, take a shower

[@jolliron]

​@CthulhuTheory based on your subscriptions, i can tell what kind of person you are.

[@QuarkYT]

​@@CthulhuTheoryWhat a useless comment to leave. Go kick rocks

[@argentandrold5732]

Sounds kinda eh- but sure...

[@chelseamodl8628]

I come from a large family so we always had ham and turkey for thanksgiving so everyone had their choice and their fill. When a lot of us started moving away and splitting holidays between inlaws, we started only having turkey, because we wanted lots of leftovers to make soups and tacos etc. The holidays were just an excuse to get a discounted turkey to feed us for a week or two.

[@mamanewt203]

My family always have ham and turkey

[@infinityzer054]

Have both

[@hmhmh1204]

1:17 I literally yelled out an audible "WHAT" upon hearing that one of my all-time Thanksgiving FAVS is apparently the worst??? ... I'm not the only one who thinks it's great, right? ALSO, green bean casserole is great too, right?

[@chriswilliam7282]

For Christmas in Australia people usually get glazed ham, but this year there is also turkey in the stores, just like last year for the first time there was pumpkins to carve in stores and way more awareness for Halloween.

[@micrograham]

I find this intersting. Having Ham for Thanksgiving never really crossed my mind. In our family, we have a Turkey for thanksgiving, and a "Christmas Dinner" as we call it, which is much like Thanksgiving but with Ham instead. So we kinda do both.

[@joshuakim5240]

Weirdly, i never thought about it but my family always serves turkey and ham together as two separate dishes for Thanksgiving. I always assumed ham was part of the Thanksgiving meal (since it also came with the usual Thanksgiving foods like mashed potatoes, stuffing, and gravy) and was kind of mindblown at the reveal that ham isn't actually part of the traditional menu.

[@mwmxktty]

That’s what I grew up with too. Turkey for Thanksgiving, and ham for Christmas. But the side dishes for both holidays were the same.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

We switched to prime rib a few years back. It's a lot easier to carve and there's a bunch of stuff you can do with the leftovers.

[@AznPrzsn]

Should eat neither. Have some ostrich!

[@micrograham]

@mwmxktty That's a lot like how it works for our family, too. Usually, we have a bit less food for our Christmas dinner since we aren't inviting people over.

[@Chill-Ice]

As someone who eats nothing for Thanksgiving, I see this as an absolute win

[@BornToBeWired]

You fast on Thanksgiving?

[@fuxay9289]

​@@BornToBeWiredthey probably just live outside the US

[@XAMEREN]

as a guy not from the US, i can relate

[@zacharychaber1791]

Ok chandler

[@hollyhartwick3832]

@@XAMEREN - Also not from the US. Born and raised in England. I live in the US now and still see Thanksgiving as strange.

[@Studycase3000]

Brilliant! As always thank you and a happy holiday to you and yours) I've done either or, and cooked both for the meal. I LOVE the versatility of ham leftover though.

[@nyxvoidess]

As someone who has had ostrich, it's actually pretty good. Expensive, yes, but worth it to try at least once in your life.

[@jjtm2280]

My family is Mexican so we didn’t use to celebrate thanksgiving. Since we started to, my mom basically makes the classic turkey with the stuffing but with a chicken instead and some ham on the side as well, weird he didn’t talk about chicken at all tho.

[@jolliron]

Cuz chicken isn't a Thanksgiving thing. It's an all year round thing.

[@christianramos5278]

🇸🇻 My family celebrates but does do the same thing

[@voidbreather7405]

@@jollironNeither is ham - it's more of a Christmas meat - but that's not really the point here. How often is your family serving up whole roasted chicken?

[@jolliron]

@@voidbreather7405 never. But when is your family serving up hamd and turkey for regular dinner PERIOD?

[@Charlie_the_dog]

@@jolliron I think thy meant including thanksgiving so yknow at least once a year

[@maggiestaup7921]

6:51 honestly this really shows the kind of person I am on Thanksgiving. My first thought when I heard "We all know what Thanksgiving is really about" was the SIDES. 😂 Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!

[@micahphilson]

I really wasn't expecting that twist at the end! I have no idea if I can even find an ostrich salesman around here, but I think I'm gonna have to try!

[@Gabe_Cross]

He's not lying about people being eager to jump from Halloween to Christmas. During the start of November, I was already seeing Christmas decorations and hearing Christmas music.

[@Dont_Read_My_Picture]

Don't read my name!!!

[@BatAmerica]

It's so annoying.

[@BlueSparxLPs]

A house near me has been decorated for Christmas since September. It's truly coming earlier every year.

[@VaalireJuno]

In Germany there's Christmas Stuff everywhere starting around the End of September. We don't have Thanksgiving and Halloween still isn't celebrated all that much. Which is unfortunate because that's literally my fav Holiday.

[@IceMetalPunk]

My friend, I saw Christmas displays in the stores *mid-October, before Halloween even happened.* In the distant future, America will be renamed Christland, and every day will be Christmas.

[@Daughter_of_Hades_Explains]

MatPat 2023 “some people like green bean casserole more then turkey. Who hurt you?”

[@kerigordon2092]

@Daughter_of_Hades_Explains Head Editor Dan 2023 “Literal vomit”

[@badmusicproducer_offical]

that was probably a lie by him

[@benbrown96]

I don’t know if this theory has already been done, but I almost want a video analysis of turkey trots and how much they actually impact your Thanksgiving meal. Like, based on the average distance (ex 5k), how much food would you actually get to eat? Or, conversely, if you wanted to eat the “average” American meal, how much would you have to run to fit within an appropriate calorie window?

[@XItaSasux4ever12]

My family makes Cornish Hens for Thanksgiving every year. They are small enough for everyone to have their own and really juicy as well. I love it! ^^

[@brentbillings1498]

What percentage of the turkey is bones? The weight of the bones is why they recommend buying more turkey per guest than ham. In practice, people are eating roughly the same amount of ham as turkey for thanksgiving.

[@djsmiles101]

my family does the turkey for Thanksgiving and then a nice glazed ham for Christmas with some of the same sides for both. I've always loved ham way more than turkey, so it also feels right to have it for Christmas since it feels like the bigger holiday at least for us

[@kaelynw4047]

Same here!

[@animewitch1416]

That’s what my family does, except we usually use chicken on thanksgiving because it’s cheaper and we’re a smaller family (unless I get a turkey from work). I wonder how chicken would stack up in this fight.

[@eduardoxgaming6521]

Same

[@johnnyyymaldonado556]

Thanks Food Theory team! I love these festive videos lol

[@REFERABLE_OMISSION]

ok but like this is one of the most creative episodes IMO I wanna see this being used more

[@MrnmrsCCazares]

Here in Texas we often get brisket too. This year we will have turkey, ham and brisket. Sometimes we have a roast, but a beef option is regular. I don't eat pork, but others in my extended family do, so it's really for them. Turkey is just so cheap and easy to make into left over anything because it can go into almost every chicken dish.

[@goofyahhslimjackson1942]

Thats a great meat. I’m jealous of y’all

[@Game_Source]

Where can you buy ostrich from? What store sells that?

[@vultar9999]

There are online retailers that sell exotic meats. I've never bought from any though. I used to go to a local shop that would sell it too (we bought boar, bison, and elk from them) but I think they've gone out of business now. You may also have luck at more trendy grocery stores (Central, Whole Foods, etc), my local version occasionally has some unusual stuff in their frozen meat section.

[@Game_Source]

@@vultar9999 Thanks for the info.

[@GamerBoyGreen]

I love the videos recently, idk why it feels a lot more natural compared to previous ones.

[@Bonbonni3]

I actually cook my stuffing outside the turkey first cuz I add some veggies I like with it to make it more crunchy and some milk then I put it inside when I FINALLY get the turkey ready. I take a long time getting the turkey ready even with my siblings

[@serenabenting]

My family actually makes Turkey on thanksgiving, and Ham on Christmas Eve, so we get the best of both worlds in a sense. It would be interesting to try Ostrich though

[@Cyoulaterbud]

My family does the same, lol.

[@lucaspryde6976]

Throwing the ostrich last moment was fowl play, mat.😂

[@GenestaDMcKay]

We've had both every year my whole life grandma maid the turkey my aunt made the ham. Neither ever in my life were try or bad in flavor. Now my MIL cooked this thanksgiving and she's a chef so I definitely didn't have to worry. It was soooo good!!!!!

[@ricardozetino6907]

Matpat video title: Everyone should stop eating turkey for Thanksgiving! Matpat actual video: While both Turkey and Ham can be the king of Thanksgiving,the actaul animal that should be the king of Thanksgiving is the Ostrich. Now, that's is one of the most matpat moment I ever seen in my entire life so far.

[@deviousangel336]

I'm Dominican, and when my family does Thanksgiving, we have the turkey and a bunch of Dominican food to go with it, so our Thanksgiving looks very different. I've literally nver had most of the foods listed for a "normal" Thanksgiving. I didn’t get it when MatPat said the turkey usually comes out dry and plain because the turkey I always have is super juicy and full of flavor.

[@Quail-King]

Well usualy what we do is have a huge fast on the last night of the year

[@Cordelia0704p]

Most people don't take the time to learn how to cook a turkey. They follow the vague instructions on the wrapper, then complain about dry or tasteless turkey. Obviously you aren't in that category. "Normal" Thanksgiving is only "normal" in the U.S. and we have wide ranging variations for the dishes and how each is prepared. Go to your new in-laws for Thanksgiving and you may be in for some not so tasty surprises, but to them it is exactly as it should all be prepared and tastes perfect. The only thing everyone in the US agrees on is what day Thanksgiving occurs on:) Enjoy your meal it sounds delightful.

[@ACPtheAudioPhile]

I really appreciate you sharing your experience, because as much as I like MatPat and Food Theory, I think he could benefit from having at least some cultural input.

[@NoThankUBeQuiet]

Most people can't cook. and that includes their grandmother's

[@darksora32111]

Same. We do like a turkey and a candied sweet potato... thing. But the rest? Moro de guandule, ensalada rusa, pasteles en hoja, lasaña, like we do one or two things from the holiday and the rest is cena de año nuevo type-o-beat. Mom's Turkey always comes out super juicy and delicious 🙌

[@byrons8956]

I got tired of turkey and ham a LONG time ago, I go for prime rib, sadly its not a cheap choice. I also don’t care for cranberry sauce or green bean casserole. I always do my cornbread stuffing/dressing separately.

[@47d75]

My family always does Prime Rib for Christmas. It feels special since we only buy it once a year in December

[@rayf6126]

I got lucky this year and got salmon so I did an herbed bread crumb, and hollandaise sauce for our main dish. Yes, I already had our Thanksgiving.

[@MrTaylork1]

Seems weird to get tired of something you have once a year

[@anarchysammich]

i dunno how to put it, but this video had a very cozy holiday vibe to it somehow i feel very festive now thanks mat :D

[@Aries-ku8uk]

1:45 this past year I spatchcocked out turkey. First time doing the turkey. I did a roast chicken a few weeks before using the same method- best roasts EVER.

[@FrostyFrostySnow]

Here in Australia we don't have Thanksgiving but I've always had both ham and turkey at Christmas. Both are incredible but prepping them with glaze definitely elevates them

[@TheoHHH808]

makes sense you don't have thanksgiving, it's an american holiday...

[@oregonsenior4204]

Being's it's summer there, I would have bet on a barbecue... anyway, happy spring...

[@drcgaming4195]

@@oregonsenior4204 yep, thats what a lot of people do. barbie on christmas is grouse

[@charlynnwestin]

Same.

[@DinoBryce]

As a south african, we don't celebrate Thanksgiving but I can tell you, ostrich is definitely worth it!

[@anjumsings9827]

Oh man 🙈 I love green bean casserole. I eat it year round. I know that it's disgustingly mushy, but idk y'all, something about that salt level just hits exactly right to me. I can devour a half of a pan in one go, which is, like, 3 full cans of beans. And I'm not a big eater--I have strong satiety reflexes and am literally the worst person to bring to a buffet. But that green bean casserole, idk what to tell you, it's literally one of my favorite foods. Ever. I can't stop eating it when I make it, it's such a treat. I'd make it more often except trader joe's doesn't sell any of the ingredients except this time of year 😭

[@darkelfsable]

Same! Don't dog on my green bean casserole! It's great 😅

[@Vega-Punks]

All about that stuffing and yam am i right?

[@innertuber4049]

It doesn't even have to be mushy. The trick is to put plenty of fried onions on top at the very end of the baking period. This ensures that a good scoop will always have a satisfying crunch

[@MrTaylork1]

I make it from scratch with fresh, blanched green beans. Cooked soft with just a bit of bite so it’s not mushy. With freshly fried onion/shallot topping with a spicy breading. Homemade cream of mushroom soup with shiitake mushrooms, bacon and sautéed bell peppers.

[@T-Dawg75]

I LOVE IT Fresh, the crunch of the Fried onion is Impeccable, until the day after when it gets mushy. I just can’t after that.

[@hollyhartwick3832]

It's a celebration. Celebrate. Eat what makes you happy. BTW, Stove Top has a pork variety, along with turkey, chicken, and sage (my favourite). You should be able to find something to pair with whatever floats your boat if your grocery store stocks a decent assortment.

[@BiggMo]

1:22 cranberry sauce is so under rated. It’s taken me years, but I’ve finally perfected it.

[@deannal.newton9772]

At our Thanksgiving table we usually have ham and turkey at the same time. My older sister wanted duck a few times during Thanksgiving and Christmas so we would sometimes have duck during that time. We also cook turkey on Easter alongside ham as well, since my dad likes turkey more than ham. I've had ostrich burgers a few years ago and it's very good, the ostrich has more in common with beef than poultry since it can be cooked like a steak would. Whether or not my family would be on board eating ostrich is a different story, though.

[@jeffreylopez6396]

Did you know that there were a lot of arcade games that were released in the 90’s? If you haven’t, it’s fine just look it up on Google

[@michaelplantarich3375]

Spatchcocking has basically been the only way to cook now since that episode. When that episode came out, I literally convinced my wife to have us try it (I performed the cpr on the mid scapula lol). It was our first time cooking a full turkey, and it was brilliant. Haven't looked back since. Also, stuffing is absolutely disgusting. Get rid of it from any dish.

[@Brookler]

I've eaten Ostrich steaks before I've cooked at home, they are so underrated and I forgot about them until this. Need to go out looking for them again.

[@zahrapaige5133]

Which is the best way to eat a burger upside down or upright? And I all of love your videos :)❤

[@LillethTheRabbit]

another option which is Interesting and much less expensive than osterich: Rabbit! you may need to purchase a few of them if you have a large family, but rabbit is a lean meat best described as "chicken but more mammal-y". it pairs great with all your favorite dishes, it's relatively easy to cook, and it's ideal for smaller families who are getting bored of having massive leftovers.

[@Sly-Moose]

I see rabbits as pets, so no ty 😓 I'll stick to roast chicken

[@Jade93972]

This is cool - rabbit isn't bad eating on the day to day. But a lot of people see rabbits as poverty food - so not really a food that you'd want to eat to celebrate.

[@fabricdragon]

one issue is so many people think of rabbit (or pigeon) as poverty food- its not, but... also rabbit is LEAN!!!!! so you do have to take care not to dry it out

[@calebtheoriginalcjc2205]

As someone who raises rabbits for meat, I approve of this XD

[@AmaraJordanMusic]

Venison is very heart healthy. Yeah, it CAN be tough, but slow cooking certain cuts of meat it can be wonderful.

[@KingChiggy]

I like how like every third word Mat said about Turkey get it a point but he could go on a 2 minute stretch talking about ham, give it on point and then take the point away 2 seconds later lol

[@SuperiorPosterior]

1:26 How DARE you good sir! I've been tweaking and perfecting my green bean casserole recipe since I was seven, and it finally got the moniker of Family Classic two years back! Despite making a double or even triple batch, there are never leftovers to take home with my smuggled turkey leg!

[@user-bg1vq3om5n]

You guys should do a theory about the best roadtrip snack!

[@littlewolfblue1389]

I did ostrich and bison ribs last year for thanksgiving. The bison was incredible, but the ostrich had a very mineral flavor that made it not a fan favorite.

[@FilmAcolyteReturns]

My family is Italian. So we always had pasta with our turkey. My grandmother and her sisters would hand make farfalle pasta one piece at a time for thanksgiving or Christmas.

[@SalKhayer]

Yo I need an invite to your place for Thanksgiving, this sounds fkn delicious my dude.

[@Pumpkin0_0]

Hey, Matpat and crew, there's something I've been curious about and I was wondering if you could create a video about this. Can you confirm if meal-preping has food that's actually good for consumption just because it's frozen, especially dishes prepared with eggs or milk? And how long would that food last in a freezer without any traces of being spoiled? Also, at what temperature? I'd like to start meal-prepping, but since not many people do it, I was wondering if you could do a few tests to check if it's still safe to eat such meals, and if people can keep them for one week, two weeks or more, for example. Thank you!

[@Klipschrf35]

Don't necessarily have to baste if you lard or bard it. Throw butter on the top or under the skin

[@zakronthesheep]

When comparing price, he forgot to mention that turkey becomes egregiously expensive right around thanksgiving time, for some _inexplicable_ reason

[@Tangy-Langy]

Drake be the kind of guy to say “I actually prefer ham over turkey”

[@user-ox5et2qw1n]

Surge main

[@Tangy-Langy]

Yea, I got his mastery title too

[@DarknessGuard]

I would be curious about giving Ostrich a taste but here it's not like something to easily come across. Then there are the costs. That being the case, if Ostrich would rise in popularity and became more appealing to the masses, it would nudge the industry into greatly increasing the production of Ostrich meat and with a ramped up production, the prices would eventually drop as well due the effects of supply and demand.

[@hillbillyredneck9903]

Hi Matpat hope you read this! I was wondering about a theory idea, I hope we all know the saying " A dish is best severed cold " Or something along those lines, I was wondering is a dish actually best severed cold? I know you did this with pasta I believe but I would see what other foods are like maybe, Bread a burger or maybe some drinks too!

[@fishsohorny]

Goose is the superior holiday bird for sure. When the extended family comes over for holidays I usually do a ham and a prime rob roast. Cousins usually go in for thirds

[@NoThankUBeQuiet]

Plus geese are jerks.

[@Marinanor]

Ecspecially the martial artist kind. @@NoThankUBeQuiet

[@acanthafiore]

So that's what happened to Rob. RIP

[@fishsohorny]

Sorry Rob fans, he was delicious

[@ahmadsyafiqsaifullah4542]

Would love to see you guys cook ostrich on thanksgiving. Given the hype you gave. 😊

[@sld1776]

My dad ate Ostrich when he fought for Communist Angola in 1976. His advice is to marinate the meat for 24 hours, because the meat is very dry.

[@ahmadsyafiqsaifullah4542]

@@sld1776 cooking it medium rare would also be dry?

[@sld1776]

@@ahmadsyafiqsaifullah4542 Don't know enough to have an opinion. With bird meat, I'd only go fully cooked, no 'pink' whatsoever.

[@ahmadsyafiqsaifullah4542]

@@sld1776 in the video mat said it can be cooked medium rare because there are no risk of salmonella like other bird.

[@joshhobs9257]

Alot of people have been doing both so replacement isn't really necessary just a removal of one or the other only difference is it's mainly one of the only meats people get for Christmas,also if salt is a variable paring dressing with ham with be too much together

[@durgan5668]

Shrug, over at the cousin's, they had two types of turkey (smoked and roasted), chicken and dumplings, and ham, and deviled eggs; and about 7 side dishes. 5 desserts, one of which we never actually got to, and 2 types of cheese. 20 people, and we had a great time. It's usually 30, but life got in the way, so we'll try again around Christmas.

[@elizabethw.6154]

We have turkey 🦃 for Thanksgiving and Ham for Christmas. Besides cranberry sauce and pumpkin pie, our family's thanksgiving dinner and Christmas dinner sides are same, so little changes tbh.

[@theoperative017]

Never had a Thanksgiving. I still watch every Thanksgiving episode on Food Theory

[@lucasfleming9903]

Both of them are good, it’s just another question on which one do you prefer for Thanksgiving. I usually like to have turkey for Thanksgiving and ham for Easter. Christmas is usually beef or pork just because it seems repetitive to cook turkey twice for a different holiday a month later.

[@hillbillycreeper471]

I know you did an episode on coffee one time but what I would like to know is what's the best method to brew the best cup of coffee

[@AutisticPhantomOtaku]

Personally, my family cooks both turkey and ham for Thanksgiving, so it doesn't really matter to us which one is better. Also, there's something I've been wanting to know for a while. My parents like to reuse Ziploc bags before using the new ones. I just want to know: is it okay to reuse Ziploc bags, and if so, how many times can you reuse them before you have to throw them out. Thanks in advance! 😉

[@johnfoy6590]

Great video idea! Hope he sees it!

[@Dont_Read_My_Picture]

Don't read my name!!!

[@TotallyHuman]

You gotta wonder WHAT you're putting in the bag tho. like, string cheese, pretzels, or something like milk (b/c WHY).

[@gaminggav8134]

depends, if you're using them only constantly in refrigeration i'd say 1-3 weeks, but if it's in and out with the bags in 75+ temps for over 3 hours you got to throw them out.

[@thecoder12365]

As someone who doesnt like turkey or ham, I see this as an absolute win

[@Version0111]

Then go to your Puerto Rican friend's house and have pernil! Trust me.

[@Sly-Moose]

Yes! I'm the same! I hate ham and baked turkey is too dry. I'll have my roast chicken, ty. Plus, it's faaar cheaper with less food waste for a small gathering.

[@rayf6126]

​@@Sly-MooseI stick my turkey in the crackpot in pieces. Then it's not dry at all, but also not baked.

[@kolinmartz]

Y’all also forget that there’s a formula for temperature and time for meats. You can increase time if you decrease temperature. Like 10 seconds at 165° achieves that 7d reduction that makes fowl safe but so does keeping it and holding it for 5 minutes at 150° and so in and so fourth.

[@nicholasqubeck3225]

My issue with this is that ham is already (at least in my family) a holiday meat for Christmas time which is right around the corner I like turkey for thanksgiving and ham for Christmas because it provides variety to the holiday season

[@riuphane]

This is interesting, and not just for the new idea (at least to me) of ostrich. While many people i know are on one side or the other, my wife and I decided we don't like either option, and not just because of the meat itself, but also the recipe. I'm fine with turkey and ham, but prefer a roulade or something equally unique, flavorful, and eye catching. Heck, the tradition here is to do something fancy and extravagant for the one special meal. But hey, that's just my theory! My tradition theory! Thanks for reading...

[@dublinegg8389]

This is hilarious leave it to MatPat to completely introduce a whole other bird at the end of the tally up, and I have so much respect for it because I never even thought of ostrich as an option so who knows maybe one day!!! 😂❤

[@KevinYannutz]

Fascinating theory, might stick to turkey. Though more expensive what about Prime Rib? That's a fairly popular holiday meat...though I guess more often eaten around Easter

[@humansomewhat2167]

Also, maybe I've only ever bought a whole or half ham at the holidays, but I've never heard of ham being that expensive. Maybe also a regional thing if it's more readily available here? I don't eat pork anymore but when I did a couple of years ago, I got the ham for 69 cents a lb on sale. In comparison, I bought the butterball on sale here 99c a pound (which was a really good deal though, most stores would still be over a dollar a lb on sale). Buying ham for $5 something dollars a pound is like getting a primo one that's already been fully glazed, like at the honey baked ham store.

[@etherserra8638]

I love turkey legs, especially from the Renaissance Faire vendors and I also love cranberry jelly, not sause. The sause is a little too tart and chunky for my liking, Im a jelly addict lol, Id eat it year round if i could.

[@pandurial]

Idk where tf americans got the idea of calling jam, jelly Jelly is the mass inside the skin thats made into the classic strawberry jelly (or the disgusting supermarket jelly ewgh)

[@etherserra8638]

@pandurial6282 theres actually two versions, there is the cranberry sauce which is what jam is basically but they also make jelly which is similar to jell-o with no berries in it. So when I speak of jelly I speak of the jiggly stuff with no berries in it.

[@pandurial]

@@etherserra8638 ah ok, i thought you were talking abt jelly in the jam way like pb&j (wich is disgusting btw)

[@etherserra8638]

@pandurial6282 yeh many people dont really know the difference even here in the states. I myself cant stand the jam kind, too chunky and doesnt really seem as sweet. The jelly though is quite nice like having a jell-o dessert after the main meal. It comes in a can and can be entirely removed holding its shape and cut into slices lol.

[@LadyMakayla]

Yeah my family a few years back decided to scrap the turkey in favor of Smoked briskets. Tastes amazing, pairs with everything, and there's never a problem with leftovers not getting eaten.

[@sub2ampio]

Is ostrich likely to be as dry as duck meat if cooked well-done? I'd like to see a food theory episode examining how the different kinds of exotic meats (duck, ostrich, lamb, buffalo, etc.) stack up in terms of taste, nutrition, and price.

[@simplistic_1]

This is the type of hard-hitting bird journalism I come to this channel for

[@dawnmurphy1641]

As a Canadian Despite Thanksgiving being a smaller holiday, it happenning before the Halloween-Christmas turn around means that it feels more seperate Idk, just food for thought

[@harley_kay_]

My family has been doing smoked brisket for Thanksgiving the last few years and its been AMAZING

[@thenamelesschannel2334]

I think the whole point of a feast that happens once a year is to have something more savory and rich in flavor enough. You don’t really cook such a lean meat for a special occasion, especially when there are relatives involved. But of course, if anyone wants to have a more healthy, environmentally friendly (although I don’t think it’s that important to eat an ostrich instead of a turkey for Thanksgiving especially when you consider the shipping and the fact that this a special meat obtained specifically because there is a special demand for it, it’s still a nice thing to do) meat, I respect that. I understand that videos like this are just for fun anyway, I just wanted to point this out. Happy Thanksgiving to whoever’s reading this!

[@-daughterofhades-]

Matt! Where on earth do you think we are going to get a ostrich?! So if you find a place let me know, I want to try ostrich next year😅

[@AmyraCarter]

1:26 I *_LOVE_* green bean casserole, when it's made well. *SO FIGHT ME, MATPAT.* ... No turkey, no ham, no feast; I live alone, after all, and have no one to spend time with. 🤷🏻‍♀

[@matute33]

In Honduras, we have been doing this for years, in December. We eat either turkey or ham, some people eat turkey on Christmas eve, and ham on new year's eve

[@bassoonatic777]

Hey! Green bean casserole is my favorite part of the meal! My wife makes an amazing dish!

[@maverickcortez2845]

After watching so many episodes, i can definitely say that this and Style Theory are centered on tradition/cultures. On the other hand, Game/Film Theory are more focused on lore.

[@jerkkola81]

In Finland, we don't celebrate thanksgiving, but we do prepare ham for christmas. Baking "Joulukinkku" or christmas ham in an oven over the night is a tradition in many families.

[@anubis2814]

We've shifted over to duck for the last half decade, just as historically accurate. Its amazing as well, but I do love ostrich.

[@SilverZephyrFalcon]

Cooked in an oven bag or an electric roaster, I've never had an issue with dry turkey. The juices are locked inside better than in a regular oven pan, so it practically bastes itself. And you get juices to make gravy with afterward.

[@Panda-db2jw]

Thanks for showing me this episode way after thanks giving KZbin… my parents always ask me what I wanna try since I never eat much at TGing… but like… I probably would have eaten this lol

[@lyandraangel]

When I was a kid, we always did ham because only my mom liked turkey. Since my husband and I got married, we've always done duck, because while neither of us are super fond of turkey, he also doesn't like ham that much. We both like duck, and for a special once or twice a year meal for a family of three, it works out really well for us.

[@KTSpeedruns]

Yo, my fam has basically done the same meal for Thanksgiving and Christmas just replacing the turkey with ham for Christmas. Hindsight being 2020, I did look forward more to Christmas dinner than Thanksgiving dinner. Must have been that a nice honey ham appeals to me more if you're pairing it with mashed potatoes, green beans, and sweet potato casserole.

[@Xion_Toshiro]

Glares at video in Dressing & Stuffing There's ONE way (besides fried) To redeem Turkey - that's too dry; Dressing & Stuffing (cooked separately) It makes that super dry meat palatable, at least Ham (in my opinion) is the overall better choice, in my opinion, hands down - ham stands out on its own Turkey has to either be done right, or have a LOT of Dressing or Stuffing, on standby

[@x-lightninkay-x4887]

Hey, Mat! You should do a theory about Buddy the Elf and if he could really live off a main sugar diet like the other elves from the movie Elf!