Footage Leaked of Bayesian After Sinking | SY News Ep395

[@theinspector1023]

I for one, and I know I speak for many others, appreciate your objectivity and sensitivity. Thank you.

[@Team33Team33]

OOops: Another Santa Claus fan ...

[@paddyglenny]

Hear hear. All the negative comments about DEI hiring etc etc (yawn) come from mysogenistic knuckle-draggers such as team33

[@musicloverchicago437]

@@Team33Team33 Just remember, your mother gave birth to you ...

[@Team33Team33]

@@musicloverchicago437 AND ?

[@longsleevethong1457]

@@musicloverchicago437 don’t forget this inept lesbian woman crashed a boat because she didn’t deserve her position but she was promoted because she was a DEi hire. Don’t forget that. Women can’t do what men can do. They should stay in the kitchen. Don’t forget that. You are seeing what happens otherwise.

[@daveleeander]

I have had absolutely no interest in yachts or even boating in general. However, I watch your channel just to see you. I enjoy your honesty, and your ability to admit when you make a mistake. But in this video, I have enjoyed your response to the Navy Captains qualification. All I have read did not mention her time in the royal navy, nor her numerous postings and experiences. You are correct, were it a straight man, there would be no story. Thank you for enlightening me, and making me take a look at myself and my quickness in judging others. I have a timber in my eye that I need help in removing.

[@laboursoflove]

Absolutely agree with you. I watch this channel for a reminder of sanity, common sense, humanity with honesty. Thank you E Sysman for being a lighthouse in a dark human world.

[@jtjames79]

If DEI wasn't a thing there would be no story.

[@lesedwards6562]

As a kiwi and boat freak i agree with your comments. Love your content please keep it up.

[@bamagal1992]

So appreciative of the calm, factual, way you discuss issues such as these. Shame on us for often judging before we know the facts.

[@leneanderthalien]

calm, factual but totaly useless...i'm sailor and cross oceans with a 7.5m sailboat, so i known a bit what can happens: for me 90% uncompetence from the crew, and the rest failed design from the boat...

[@fabioprimaio8503]

@@leneanderthalien I'm agree

[@timbolt2380]

@@leneanderthalien for me I'll wait till we know, until then its just speculation

[@ortonh1]

I totally agree. It’s total bigotry…… It’s a statistical fact that lesbians crash less boats than regular females.

[@sunitad592]

The Monty Don of super yacht news!

[@JahsRulz]

Ka pai! Needed to be said mate. No one mentioned that she was anything other than a sound choice for command when she got the commission, it's only now that she's been swept up in the 'culture wars'. Good on you for going through her backgound.

[@bubbasmith3638]

I couldn't tell, but do you know if she had ever been in command of any of those vessels in the Royal Navy?

[@wendygerrish4964]

Good for her. In the past NZ has a history of not employing women. The first woman nz parks ranger hired on with bachelors degree, showing that she had to be over qualified when compared to others. NZ min of transport refused to hire an experienced atc yet they had male canadian atcs working. Only when threatened with lawsuit did they about face and employ her. Etc etc..

[@savagegtalks5912]

@@wendygerrish4964 so she forced her way there... via court. If that isn't a Trojan move, I don't know what is 🤣

[@gust0o]

@@savagegtalks5912 small dick energy, pal.

[@wendygerrish4964]

@@savagegtalks5912 Yes kinda similar to throwing oneself into a charge of race horses to demand the right to vote I suppose.

[@Perspectologist]

I appreciate the gesture of trying to add context to the ignorant things that have been said about the NZ captain. Trying to reason with unreasonable people is difficult. When someone injects their biases into a matter with so many unknowns they discredit themselves. There will be an investigation and accountability. Thanks for being an advocate of reasonable perspective.

[@stewatparkpark2933]

A cover up more likely .

[@meofnz2320]

@@stewatparkpark2933 So “they” are going to make up a false inquiry and swear the 76 people and hundreds of associated navy personnel to perpetual silence, presumably with the threat of death? Before you throw out these accusations stop and ask yourself “does what I’m about to say make me look like a complete loon?” Good luck and happy to help.

[@captainjimolchs]

There is no arguing with fools.

[@MrPLC999]

I love how people like Constantino and KZbin "armchair experts" make claims about how a ship sank even before the vessel has reached the ocean floor, without any factual evidence whatsoever. Such reckless speculation demonstrates serious mental defects.

[@lennsisson]

@@stewatparkpark2933 Think about what your comment here actually implies. Ahead of any investigation and without any evidence, you're setting up a situation where you can dismiss any future conclusion of an investigation that you don't like as being "a cover up". If there is any evidence of said coverup, then please present it, so that we can all see it and judge it for ourselves. But, in the absence of actual evidence, such accusations insult the honesty and reputations of the people who take part in that investigation. How would you like it if people started saying that you were going to be part of a coverup for an investigation that was just beginning, when all you wanted to do was the best job you could and get at the actual causes so that they can be prevented in the future? I think a lot of people are quick to jump to conclusions that support their positions without thinking about either the baselessness of those conclusions or the knock-on impacts of others caught up in them.

[@jimmyjames2022]

It's awesome that you continue to have the eternal patience to calmly and respectfully rebut the ad hominem attacks on the Captain without being condescending. By now I'd have written them off as trolls.

[@Sssthpok]

oh, Jimmy.... how sweet you are ....

[@ortonh1]

I totally agree. It’s total bigotry…… It’s a statistical fact that lesbians crash less boats than regular females.

[@longsleevethong1457]

don’t forget this inept lesbian woman crashed a boat because she didn’t deserve her position but she was promoted because she was a DEi hire. Don’t forget that. Women can’t do what men can do. They should stay in the kitchen. Don’t forget that. You are seeing what happens otherwise.

[@Tod_oMal]

I understand Italian and watched the video, she doesn't say anything important or relevant, so you don't miss anything.

[@movarvo1217]

Thanks it would have confused things for many of us.

[@zapcos80]

I watch this channel for two reasons... I would like to retire on a boat and everything always makes sense. No crazy talk or delusions is what I like.

[@WillN2Go1]

Learn safety, learn how to fix stuff. And safety doesn't stop at the regs.

[@adelaferreira4575]

Thank you very much for defending the captain of the sunken ship,much respect for you and your channel,being a woman is hard enough to survive in the world,being a professional seawoman ,even harder,after reading her resume,she has more qualifications then a few men in the same job,but that’s life,very interesting underwater video ,always looking up for your updates,your honesty is so refreshing !

[@yinny11-11]

@@adelaferreira4575 the word he's not using is misogyny.

[@Tod_oMal]

Unfortunately for her and that community, the people who created and implemented the DEI Norms, should have known that this could happen. This is a stigma that will never go away and it is the fault of the DEI Norms.

[@a.w.thompson4001]

I respect you so much, eSysman, for speaking out against bigots judging that NZ Captain for characteristics unrelated to seamanship, experience, skill, and ability. It's not appropriate to rush to judge *any* Captain when there's an accident until the facts are known.

[@patrikfloding7985]

⁠​⁠@@Tod_oMalMany countries don’t have any DEI norms. And even when they do, it’s very unlikely they would come into effect for positions like this.

[@markstokes3685]

White nen don't get DEI. Pathetic

[@greggeorge3638]

Your reporting just gets better.

[@ZMPF9999]

Your information is fantastic. I come here for "Beyesian" news and I'm not particularly a yacht person, but I find your program objective are even and level handled and you go with the facts not lies in your windows. Thank you very much for your presentation and when I get my channel up, I'll be mentioning you as one of my content creators that speaks to truth

[@skunkjobb]

Bayesian...

[@nume50357]

​@@skunkjobbOh my goodness - Bayesian or Beyesian, we know which Yacht is ment, and the people don't come back to life. We all make faults in writing sometime, it's human 🤷🏻‍♀️.

[@telebubba5527]

You are absolutely right. It only distracts from any real problems that should be looked at. I appreciate it.

[@limbeboy7]

If someone works hard and earns a job, Their race or orientation has nothing to do with it. DEI was a law put in place to ensure companies don't discriminate. As a black engineer trust me. I've been hired and fired just so a company can fill quota then go back to an all white team. Yes it happens in 2024

[@dakat1726]

Respect your efforts to check on reporting facts- your standards are what the world needs in all the social media haze

[@johnstott1431]

I have produced stability books for several large yachts. The regulations governing stability of large sailing yachts is defined in the REG code, which used to be called the Large Yacht Code. This particular Perini, would have been under LY2, the second iteration of the code. However stability did not materially change from the versions revisions. It is normal for these yachts to only very marginally meet the standards, often not meeting the 90deg with the board up, particularly in the arrival condition ((low bunkers). More importantly is that the righting arm (GZ curve) and heeling arm curve are more or less coincident at angles around 40deg (board up). What this means is that if sufficient wind heels the yacht to about 40deg it will simply keep heeling till the rig is near horizontal. 45deg happens to be about the down flooding angle, where the engine ventilation sill begins to flood the engine room. In my opinion the board should always be down unless reduced draft is absolutely necessary. With several Perini’s including a 64m ketch all potentially falling within this possible sphere of vulnerability, the MCA, who take a lead on stability regulations within the yacht codes, should immediately issue a directive to make it mandatory for ballasted centreboards to be normally kept down.

[@eveningstar1]

Incredible information!! Thank you

[@standbytogo123]

Fair enough, provided the vessel has a Classification as a commercial yacht from a major Ship Classification Society and is Certified to the Large Yacht code. However with regards to the Bayesian all I have ever seen or heard is that the vessel was a pleasure yacht. That being the case the owner can have any design he likes and carry guests provided they are not paying guests. Insurance would be a problem under those circumstances no doubt.

[@whoonose283535]

I’d imagine that with the board permanently down her draft would be 10m plus. She’d be unable to dock in any marina, anywhere.

[@tomac_fpl9149]

@@standbytogo123 The Bayesian was a commercially registered charter yacht, and was therefore subject to the LYC and Class.

[@johnstott1431]

@@whoonose283535 not many marinas are large enough. If these yachts dock it’s stern too or alongside a deep water wharf, which are by their nature are usually in sheltered harbours. What I am saying is that the board should be ”normally kept down” rather than the practice of them normally kept up unless sailing. It should never be up when sailing. The board pivot bearings need to be kept well maintained, tight no slop, to avoid the noise made when the vessel rolls at anchor.

[@wag0NE]

Ironically the fact dei exists undermines those who attain their position by merit

[@CatherineMitchell-vw3ix]

Appreciate your fair and frank reporting, thank you for your none biased report.

[@cypilotiowan4761]

Well put. From the facts, The Capt made the difficult call to abandon and saved numerous lives.

[@longsleevethong1457]

Saved the lives she nearly killed?? How’s that work exactly?

[@longsleevethong1457]

don’t forget this inept lesbian woman crashed a boat because she didn’t deserve her position but she was promoted because she was a DEi hire. Don’t forget that. Women can’t do what men can do. They should stay in the kitchen. Don’t forget that. You are seeing what happens otherwise.

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

THANKS 🤗 ESYSMAN FOR THE UPDATE 💚💚💚

[@colinhamilton9286]

Well done. A fine channel.

[@alans172]

The original Italian report on the Bayesian sinking is behind a paywall.

[@shahirahabib2947]

My absolute and total respect for you and your channel. Objectivity and the truth without biases is what makes me comeback again and again to look for information . Thank you for staying true to those important values that are lacking in many of our news media today , especially on line 🙏🏼♥️😊🌸

[@roge7652]

Love your explanations, very clear and precise .

[@carladejonge4951]

I appreciate your honesty & willingness to share it!❤

[@rickwrd2849]

In 1982, two female officers were place on our USN ship during a North Atlantic cruise for a couple of months. One hooked up with an officer and the other with an enlisted man. Even though this was in violation of the UCMJ there was nothing done about it (I guess) since it was a trial. After the cruise we were told that having the women on board was a failure in that it would affect military readiness. I don't know what changed 12 years later when women first got orders to combat ships. A coworker who had just served 4 years in the USN, in the late 1990s, told me stories about went on onboard. When this happens on a cruise ship we call it the Love Boat. :)

[@longsleevethong1457]

Yeah. I was a tanker in the army and now they have women on tanks and I just don’t understand what in the hell they think is going to happen when the shit hits the fan.

[@BoroBootBoy]

Weird how the MSM were all about how she did such a great job making the decision to abandon ship, like that's difficult, and left out how a WO got to Captain in such a short space of time.

[@SteamCrane]

In WW-II, the US Navy had much better ship survival rates than any other navy, especially the Japanese Navy, due to much better damage control training. In many cases, a severely damaged ship was saved by damage control, repaired, and sent back out. An immediate abandon ship in this case raises the question of whether the ship was truly already unrecoverable, many hours before she sank. In fairness, if the fire was lithium batteries in salt water, the best plan would be to abandon.

[@hb1338]

I wonder who put that thought in the minds of MSM - surely not the NZ government or its' Defence Force. Such behaviour is usually called deflection.

[@19element]

I live in new Zealand and the navy is trying to coverup what has happened, oil is now spilling out of the ship and they are saying that yes it is but it is flowing away from the island.. yet all the videos from samoa are showing what is really happening

[@longsleevethong1457]

It’s disgusting. They want people to quit pointing out the obvious mistakes they made in hiring a lesbian wowing zero experience.

[@tjdawson8942]

it sure has taken an awful long time for them to even point to a reason this happened , give us something thats all we ask. otherwise its pretty EZ to jump to conclusions

[@gkhan8765]

3:13 Well said 🎯 👏👏👏 I’m afraid what you say will go right over the DEI zombies heads. Saying “casting pearls before swine” comes to mind, but thanks for saying it anyway, it needs to be pointed out.

[@stuartmillar8264]

From one of my management courses that i attended. "You can delegate responsibility but not accountability".

[@eveningstar1]

Thank you for calling out the misogyny!

[@markstokes3685]

@@eveningstar1 with a false comparison. Yea right

[@sapiotone]

@@markstokes3685 got a problem with women who have more qualifications than you?

[@ortonh1]

I totally agree. It’s total bigotry…… It’s a statistical fact that lesbians crash less boats than regular females.

[@garypearce1097]

Women’s qualifications are different than men’s qualifications

[@jwyzdm]

DEI isn't only about women. It's all about discriminating against straight white males completely and totally. Misogyny is not the issue at all, but nice try on mislabeling the problem to make it sound like less of a problem.

[@ScottH-lq4hr]

Well done for staying objective in your reporting and for defending the captain from unwarranted comments about her appointment. Keep up the good work.

[@anthonycanalese2142]

Have you visited the Defence Force web pages of any of the major western countries lately?

[@jonathanpittaway]

the most watchable videos in the business. could be a Hollywood production. have been watching since the Bayesian sinking and all very well presented. thank you.

[@bethellingworth7814]

I like your attitude, she certainly sounds like an experienced seaman (sea person). I really like your programmes. Thank you.

[@wpherigo1]

Thanks for presenting this footage.

[@mwasy2713]

Bravo for your take on Cdr Yvonne Gray and responding as a grown up in the room - we're grateful the captain brought her crew home

[@hb1338]

.. after she stranded them.

[@longsleevethong1457]

She nearly killed them.

[@longsleevethong1457]

It’s not grown up to patronize someone after they show themselves to be clearly inept and destroy a 100 million dollar boat and put the crew in danger. Wake up.

[@georgeburns7251]

When I was in navy, the male captain of the USS ENTERPRISE ran the ship aground returning to the San Francisco home port from a western pacific deployment. All the dependents were waiting for their loved ones to come home. They were stranded just off the harbor at Alameda. Lots of tugs were needed. The captain later made admiral.

[@byteme9718]

Kirk?

[@patrikfloding7985]

Being male, and perhaps even white, he was just bound to be innocent.

[@KSparks80]

@@byteme9718 He beached where no man had beached before!

[@williamscott850]

The ship was aground in very narrow channel that was known to have shifting sand banks and was only stuck for a few hours. It's hardly a relevant analogy.

[@Jake12220]

Bit of a different situation when you have shifting channels in a river mouth vs a well mapped area of reef on a servey vessel.

[@JsckSzx]

there is a difference between a private yacht owner and the government when it comes to a diversity hire. One is being hired on behalf of the nz people in the role of defense and paid by tax payers. that makes it everybody's business unlike the private setting/ it represents a compromise of meritocracy. these people are selected primarily for their demographic attributes (such as race, gender, or ethnicity) rather than for their qualifications. it is obvious lest you be s supporter of this type of thing

[@garyburns6473]

I know nothing about boats but I’m watching because you seem to 👍

[@delgadomd1]

Great job. Thanks for the update. I appreciate all you do to keep us informed. Thanks for sharing.

[@RikkiestAndTikkiest]

When it's promoted that a person's identity rather than their skills are important for promotion, then accusations against a person's identity are part and parcel of the conversation when that person has an adverse event at their job. If they didn't want criticism around her identity, and only her skill, then they need to not promote and champion identity over skill.

[@CeciliaTan]

Thank you for being a voice of reason and for always looking at the facts, no matter what the issue! Some people are always going to rush to judgement to defend their own hateful or craven worldview.

[@bubbasmith3638]

As a former quartermaster in the USCG, it is REALLY hard for me to imagine how the Manawanui could run aground. This is(was) a naval vessel, with more then enough personnel on board to deal with issues like loss of steering or propulsion. If they were operating close to the reef for the mission, surely they would have been on special sea detail and had crewmen ready to anchor at a moments notice. If they were just transiting, how could both the conning officer and QMOW been napping( How many people were on bridge watch underway?) I noticed that the kiwi NAVY doesn't list any of the traditional sea rates like Bosun Mate or Quartermaster. If it is standard practice to just have an Ensign or JG on bridge watch underway alone, perhaps it is time to reevaluate this practice.

[@Jake12220]

Large servey vessels rarely come close to reefs, the ship was equipped with drones and support craft to deal with such areas. As for losing power or steering, yep just drop the anchor till you work it out. They had plenty of options, they just didn't make any good choices.

[@antc5010]

As a quartermaster, do you understand the topography of reefs? Many people are asking how can a vessel run aground, yet now be lying in deep water? The issue lies with the rapid change in topography / bathometry. So with the ship being very close to the reef and likely on the deeper seaward side, dropping anchor would have little effect as the scope of chain required would be too long and the vessel would ground before the anchor took hold. And what do many personnel do when a vessel loses power or steering so close to a reef? Take up oars? Raise the sails?

[@Jake12220]

@@antc5010 as someone that used to work on large tourist boats that would do reef trips and dive around the various structures lm pretty experienced about the general environment. No sound captain will put the vessel in a position where it is at risk. That ship had no reason to get close to that reef, it had support vessels and drones to carry out the shallow water mapping. The structure they hit was already mapped, so regardless of who's fault it was, it was clearly an issue of human error. On a ship the captain is always responsible, even if someone does something completely random and unexpected it's still the captain's responsibility. In cases like this guilt is assumed till innocence can be proven. The idea of innocent till proven guilty doesn't exist on the sea and the captain is always considered responsible for the sinking of their ship till it can be proven otherwise.

[@bubbasmith3638]

@@antc5010 I know absolutely nothing about either the bathometry of the where they ran aground, nor how many shackles of chain they carried....Do you? As an aside, perhaps you should look up the duties of a QM in the US Navy....

[@Sssthpok]

@@Jake12220 'she' didn't make very good choices, which is why non-woke commenters raise questions of competence in her commission......

[@demondchild1]

Her social profile publicized her orientation in her career. Otherwise we would not know. This was her first command since immigrating to New Zealand. But if there is a reason why the ship was that close to the reef and not a smaller boat with a safe draft I hope to hear it.

[@X99Zero]

3:50 he is still missing the point. She ran the boat into the ground versus a one in a million freak storm

[@shaggybreeks]

LOL your sound "signature" at the beginning of your videos, when you announce "this is superyacht news with E. Sysman... (honk)"... The 'honk' is too short! I laugh, but it gets me every time. :) I never had much of an interest in superyachts, and don't know why I watched one of your videos at first, but you do an excellent job of getting past the "fabulous glamorous snob" appeal, and making every video very interesting and credible. Thank you so much for creating a new interest for me.

[@700kotchi]

As usual you only deal with facts, not innuendo. It's always a pleasure to see your report. As for the wannbe a somebody's, try contributing something worthwhile for a change.

[@TheRubaga]

Thanks for the channel and updates on stories

[@xxxvvv9172]

Es gilt Vorsorge zu treffen, vor so einem möglichen Unglück. So etwas darf einfach nicht passieren, man muß immer mit dem Schlimmsten rechnen. Ich hoffe dass man den Fall vollständig aufklären wird können, bei den heutigen technischen Möglichkeiten.

[@chaswarren7239]

Well done for your measured & factual comments with respect to CDR Gray.

[@shelterstation]

It’s the policy of the NZ Navy to DEI hire. Look at their website! Any case why get in to the argument just do ther where when why, like you did with the Bayesian.

[@DangerDan]

Love your calm and multi sided and objective reasoning!❤

DEI grounded one of our Cook Strait ferries and dropped a major power transmission pylon just recently here in New Zealand. What do you think is going to pop into our heads. These aren't explicitly sexual references but generalized jobs filled by quota's not merit or skills. You've seen the same thing in the UK with fighter pilots in your air force. These topics need to be talked about otherwise the situation just gets worse and goes underground. You have a fantastic channel and my rant is over.

[@user-wz1ib6lw2v]

DEI did neither of those things, and it's ludicrous to suggest that it did.

@@user-wz1ib6lw2v The fact that someone on the bridge doesn't know how to switch off the auto pilot on the ferry and others undo the fastenings on three tower legs at once tells me differently.

[@eichbc]

She couldn't possibly be at fault because of who she is, all criticism and questions about qualifications are off-limits. The Bayesian crew & captain were immediately blamed, specifically by the yacht builder. A lot of news agencies amplified those accusations. The opposite of what he's saying in this video. In that case, exteme weather was a factor. A military ship running into ground seems like a total breakdown in CRM. If they lost power, why not drop anchor, if that ends up being the reason. I do not expect an unbiased report in this situation if you examine the chain of command starting from the top.

[@hb1338]

Thankfully the fighter pilots problem in the RAF went away some years ago, as a result of several of the the trailblazing women making a TARFU of the opportunity which was handed to them. There are stories which I could tell ...

@@hb1338 Thank goodness for that and thank you for updating me. Perhaps there is hope yet. Of course with your (UK) government it's a sad tale of "four more years".

[@janetw8353]

what a breath of fresh sanity you are, ty

[@nathandinsley776]

I am a strong believer in "until proven otherwise!" Thank you for reminding us all.

[@hb1338]

In most navies, the captain of a a vessel that is lost is assumed guilty unless they can demonstrate their innocence.

[@billy33365]

This is the bsy channel. Thumbs up

[@SteamCrane]

I suspect all of this DEI stuff will be a red herring, which we will discover as a result of whistleblower leaks rather than from the official report. Working near a reef should have the crew focused and captain on the bridge, and the ship has state of the art nav gear, but they could have been driven deadship toward the reef after a power loss. The 360 tour video shows that the NZ Navy is focused on green, and there are claims they were trialing biofuel, which frequently results in unreliability. Additionally, I haven't found what her propulsion is like. She has Dynamic Positioning, which may mean azipods, can be trouble. There are plenty of reasons for a coverup of this embarrassing incident.

[@chuckaddison5134]

Don't know how the NZ Navy does it but, in the US Navy the commandìng officer is the untimate responsibility for the safe handling and operation of the vessel. When something such as a grounding or collision occurs the very first thing that happens is that the captain is fired! He (or she) does not have to be on the bridge at the time of the incident. He did however sign off on the qualifications of all the officers and watchstanders that were on the bridge. Even with 19 years active duty, she may (or may not) have been a diversity hire. An examination of her records is in order to determine if she was passed or promoted in spite of failing or substandard performance in any of the jobs she held prior to being selected for command.

[@chetmcmasterson]

All true, but the loudest voices shouting "DEI" aren't calling for an investigation, they're advocating a conclusion based only on sex and orientation.

[@medea27]

The captain isn't immediately fired, whether military or civilian... the commanding officer might be put on desk duty & they may be demoted or sanctioned following an investigation, even discharged from service later on. But real life isn't the same as the movies mate... and if you don't believe me, look up how many commanding officers got "fired" from the US Navy following incidents. Senior officers are expensive to train & have valuable experience... they certainly aren't 'disposable' enough to throw away after a non-fatal incident. Smh... 🤦‍♀️

[@antc5010]

Chuck... so old school! Generally, in these circumstances people are stood down from duty. Then it's up to the findings of the enquiry to determine where errors were made. As with the expectation that other ship personnel are qualified (signed off), these posts are not required to be assigned by the captain, but by the Navy. Just as the captain's credentials were validated during interview, do it make the interviewees responsible for the captain's actions? So, if the captain is not on the bridge, duties are assigned to qualified personnel hired by the Navy. The main issue with your post is a starting point that the captain is to blame. Many things can go wrong on complex vessels and the captain is not responsible for every nut, screw or capacitor.

[@wendygerrish4964]

Experience is tough to acquire in nz- it doesnt have the resources. The Captain Cozier 'firing' incident was arguably political vindictiveness..the ship was sound.

[@The-Droll-and-LazyJoker]

Without any evidence, you still seem to come to a conclusion that the captain "may or may not have been a diversity hire", the real question is would you still be making this claim if 'she' was a 'he' and... white?

[@paintedegg8275]

Thank you for the updates

[@Lola00777]

Thank you for being so sincere and objective as always 🙏🏼

[@WalterThorne-h5k]

Thank you Captain!

[@roch145]

The issue with DEI initiatives is that when sub-qualified people are hired into positions for which they are not the most qualified candidate, but rather because they accomplish a DEI goal, it puts into question the qualifications of truly qualified people who are hired based on their abilities and not the fact that they can be classified into some DEI category. The complaints you have about people questioning the NZ Navy’s captain’s qualifications is a direct result of other DEI initiatives that don’t result in the best people being hired. If all candidates for a position are equally qualified, then I’m fine with DEI categorization being used to help make the hiring decision.

[@ght33]

@@roch145 said the unqualified and self absorbed person

[@OnTourWithPattiSmith]

Your addressing this lgbt issue is invaluable. Thanks for resisting the understandable tendency to ignore this kind of online harassment/bullying. 💯

[@gabriellevanneste5978]

Bravo for talking so much sense and for calling out the hateful comments re. the NZ captain. 💪🙏

[@evinnra2779]

Again, something funny here in your response to the sinking of the N Z ship. I could have sworn that every time a ship sinks in quiet waters the captain gets the blame initially regardless of gender, colour or sexuality. Costa Concordia springs to mind, for instance. I am a female and I m sick to the teeth that every time a female professional gets into trouble someone will excuse her actions because she is a female. Equal opportunity should be followed by equal responsibility and accountability. If I muck up a situation it's because I made a mistake and not because im a female.

[@hb1338]

One of my wife's strongest rants is that anyone who excuses her on the grounds that she is female is actually patronising her. She is delighted that her current employers treat her exactly the same as her male colleagues.

[@sailorjack7873]

I have spent many years on the bridge off a RN war ship and the Captain is always on the bridge or very close when in danger or close to land makes me wonder what happened the sea is a very unpredictable creature!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@YachtReport]

Did your ships have a navigation officer?

[@sailorjack7873]

@@YachtReport yes we did, would you blame your sat nav for crashing your car !! At the end of the day the overall responsibility comes down to the captain

[@JayAdams-ml5jf]

Wow, they seriously put that music to that footage. Guess American TV hasn't sunk as low as I had thought. It's scary to think we will sink lower, but rest assured, we will.

[@patrikfloding7985]

Agreed. Poor taste to say the least.

[@thethirdman225]

It’s rare in news but common in longer format programs. It’s not a determinant of quality.

[@JayAdams-ml5jf]

@@thethirdman225 IMHO, it was done to sensationalize and titillate the viewers. I'm sorry but this was a sinking that took seven lives. Not cool.

[@thethirdman225]

@@JayAdams-ml5jf I worked in media for 35 years. Long format, like current affairs, is very different and has a different audience from basic news. The viewers know exactly what they are getting.

[@louisavondart9178]

at least they didn't put in any sonar pings....

[@steveshoemaker6347]

Sound like she is a fine Captain......Thank you eSysman..... Old F-4 Phantom pilot Shoe🇺🇸

[@georgeburns7251]

Can u afford new shoes

[@steveshoemaker6347]

@@georgeburns7251 lol Yes this old man needs new shoes....Would you be so kind to buy me some new shoes ? Shoe🇺🇸

[@Sssthpok]

how on earth can you judge her a 'fine captain' when she lost her command ??

[@RobertKok]

i think they dont want to show the baclk side of the ship other wise they had done it already because they have more evidence then we know ,als gewoonlijk

[@bradmoyer9737]

“The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.” So that I may form my own opinions. Thank you.

[@Meowser186]

The comments coming from the fact a navy ship was exploring a reef, hit the reef and sunk. Qualified or not the ship is gone and we need to know why. Patience and let's see what the review brings out.

[@paullee6663]

Eagerly awaiting the video on what the AIS movements said. 👍

[@billhendricks3143]

Thank you

[@reighbh13]

i agree with the objectivity on the Naval story, irrespective of the resume, I sincerely hope she was the best candidate and as such selected or that position. If so then its a non issue.

[@malkie638]

as that boat sank quickly the pressure would increase even in an air pocket to about 70psi, people in that air pocket would suffer nitrogen narcosis and oxygen toxicity, then tunnel vision before passing out

[@QziQza]

@@malkie638 If they were in a fully sealed compartment (unventilated) they wouldn't experience the effects of the external pressure, short of cabin deformation. the internal volume within that cabin would have remained static.

[@avipatable]

A hydrographic ship, hahahaha you couldn't write it!

[@charlesjenner1951]

In any navy, the commander of the ship that ran aground is punished and often leaves the navy. This does not prevent subordinates from being punished as well. It would be very bad for discipline if because you are a woman -- and in addition you have made it known that your sexual orientation is reversed -- you escaped punishment.

[@dnswhh7382]

I really appreciate your attitude and your statements about the female captain. Thank you for standing up for the right thing!!

[@doctorshawzy6477]

the reason people are querying the status of the NZ captain is that women ARE preferentially selected today

[@G14-Classified]

Thank you for your matter of fact reporting.

[@jjjohny_a5965]

man or woman dosent matter but a captain has a say who on there ship as staff also has a say on who is in charge of the bridge the do's and do'nt orders...when to call the captain ...sayen its her fault no she didnt want sink the boat.. maritime court dose'nt split hairs with words

[@pboperations]

'Leaked' is probably not the best word

[@grondhero]

😂

[@whiphubley5837]

I have to say, the fact that you continually take the time to call out negative and prejudiced commentary is admirable. The way in which you do it calmly and factually is exemplary. I am a white, British, straight man, so by default manage to occupy one of the most privileged positions possible as a human being. As such, I’ve never had to endure such prejudice, but neither should anyone else, irrespective of race, nationality, sex, sexual orientation or anything else for that matter. Thank you eSysman, top stuff.

[@EngiRedbeard]

Were there news stories about any of the male captains and their sexual orientation when they were hired for jobs? No there weren't, which is why no one brings it up. If you make a point of talking about your sexual orientation then you opened the door for people to bring that up. If there was not talk of her being a gay female naval officer before the accident, then it is very unlikely it would be talked about now.

[@SteamCrane]

The NZ authorities bragged about her diversity.

[@ianoliverbailey6545]

Very well said, as always. Thanks

[@gromit9322]

If you examine the photo of the Manawanui healing over you’ll notice that the ship was displaying the black ball-diamond-ball signal which means the ship had lost the ability to manoeuvre which to me it would seem the ship had lost power and was unable to steer away from the reef.

[@ortonh1]

What does the pineapple flag mean then?

[@damiankeyte]

Ball diamond ball means “restricted in ability to manoeuvre”. Nothing to loss of power. For instance, a large tanker in a shipping channel would use this to show other vessels that it just can’t take another path. It would be shown on a vessel that’s towing a barge for instance too.

[@robertfrost1683]

In the United States Navy of Old -the Captain of the ship has the responsibility and takes the blame when something bad happens like running aground. The reason for the "blame" is they are responsible to training the crew and making sure people on watch are able to respond to problems. US Navy ship captains are routinely removed from command and have their careers ended when bad things happen. The sea is unforgiving and Masters of Ships are ultimately to blame when underlings failures occur . Life at sea is not fair. She seems qualified - no issues from me regarding that.

[@dutchflats]

If it was a man, everyone would be saying the Captain is the final authority as to the safe operation of his vessel and the accident is ultimately his responsibility possibly unless it was a major mechanical malfunction.

[@antc5010]

Have you somehow missed all the troll comments saying she's a woman, unqualified and should be fired!

[@hb1338]

@@antc5010 Two of your three items are provably true - how is that trolling ?

[@antc5010]

@@hb1338 You really do lack the context and prefer the quick quips!

[@patrikfloding7985]

Thank you for adding some sanity to the discussion around the NZ ship incident.

[@user9b2]

It is a good thing the courts and authorities do not go by internet commentator’s opinion.

[@antc5010]

It's a good thing the court plugs its ear to the comments posted!

[@alainespourteille6101]

I would like to thank you for coming to her defense, I am very impressed with your fairness and your humanity. It is so easy to attack someone who is different. Much less easy to speak up and defend them.

[@johnstott1431]

If there was any sort of emergency or when manoeuvring in close quarters, tricky circumstances it would be prerequisite that the Master would be immediately informed and therefore should have been on the bridge.

[@Wanderingsomewhere145]

I served on two large Coast Guard cutters, one an ice breaker and the other a high endurance cutter that ran the Aleutians about half the year. When in treacherous territory, the captain was always on the bridge and the crew at general quarters. The NZ ship was cruising the edge of a reef, by observation, treacherous territory. Without a complete inquiry, there is not enough to conclude anything.

[@atw98]

The NZ navy said she was a diversity at the time to bring inclusion to the Navy. Its very easy to see the ads they ran.

[@stewatparkpark2933]

Yeah , DEI is their policy .

[@Checkyoursix77]

@@atw98 And now their ship is on the bottom of the sea…😂🤣

[@thomasstanfield1891]

thank you!

[@zzzsydneyhom1379]

It is a shame that people are so keen to lay blame without knowing the facts...

[@melissavanrickley7762]

Thank you so much for always stating facts and especially for defending this captain based on those facts, again shown very clearly and well spoken again in this case. I appreciate you defending this captain and restating important facts.

[@mikehlavinka2964]

Thank you for speaking out against the bigotry. My partner and I were pleasure boaters for over 10 years. During that time our chief concern was always about being the best, knowledgeable and helpful Boater we could be. One weekend while launching our boat we got a phone call from a couple on our usual dock who were in distress and about to go on the rocks. Because of our amateur professionalism we launched our vessel in the shortest time ever and we're able to lend assistance to our friends in need. For me it was my proudest moment of boating. No one asked about our relationship and in that time of need no one cared.

[@fantasip]

Thanks for the clarification on the female captains qualifications! You're absolutely 💯 right about the gender/gay issues here!

[@supertuscans9512]

This is ridiculous. Any Captain who loses a vessel is going to be held to account whatever their gender. The question this disaster raises is not whether she was qualified but whether or not she was the most qualified in the entire NZ Navy to be Captaining this vessel. As for whether the Captain was or wasn’t on the Bridge when this debacle occurred, raises the question ‘why in the hell wasn’t the Captain on the Bridge in Hazardous waters’ (if indeed tgis is the case.). There are many Naval Officers who after years of experience , never make it to the rank of Captain, simply because despite their extensive experience they have other character defects or flaws that ensure they are deemed unsuitable for such an onerous responsibility. As this is the first time in NZ’ Navak history that a ship has been lost, during peacetime due to running aground, there are obviously questions to be answered and one of those must be whether a sutable individual was vested this responsibility in this instance. The answer may be yes or no but to try and argue that all the relating circumstances should not be examined isn’t borderline lunacy, it’s beyond.

[@simonelliott5956]

I don’t think there’s any argument over investigating the circumstances of the incident, just that saying it’s because she was given that position because of her gender and orientation, should not come into it. If she was not suitably qualified to do the job, then it begs the question why she was there but my guess is she’s probably very capable, as otherwise she wouldn’t have got anywhere near that position, as despite popular belief, it’s still extremely hard for a woman to reach the same level as men in most occupations.

[@WinterBornActual]

He was responding to the people jumping to baseless conclusions that she was a 'diversity hire' and this caused the incident. He then gave a good summary of what needs to be looked at including pretty much everything you mentioned. In any case, for some strange reason, neither of you will be conducting the investigation, rather it will be the RNZN and they will be under huge pressure to cover every thing, New Zealand does not want another Mt Erebus debacle.

[@festerofest4374]

Yes, this: The answers to that question are where the DEI answer lies.

[@tscully1504]

It's ok to ask questions. We always do. While we have to wait for the investigation results for the incident itself, something right away struck me as odd. That being a recent immigrant to NZ being given command of one of their military ships. She had lots of various experience but never a command or anything it seems to do with piloting or navigating before. Didn't NZ have any of it's own qualified officers? Seems strange she would jump the line like that.

[@Jake12220]

​@@simonelliott5956in Australia around the same time this woman was hired we stopped recruiting males, for multiple years, for our armed services in order to increase the percentage of females and overcome the masculine culture. They had big issues because not many women (percentage wise) actually wanted to be in the military, so the standards had to be dropped, same as they did for fire fighters and police. New Zealand was even worse in regards to dei hires than Australia was. Now this captain was likely fully qualified on paper, but she clearly lacked command experience. She had served on vessels and had command of departments, but never a vessel of any size. That they handed her command of the largest vessel in their Navy seems extremely suspect and a clear insult to the other members of their navy who likely had much more experience at the helm. When an event that seems utterly ridiculous happens, like grounding a large servey ship on a known reef then eyes will always be on the captain, and when that captain seems like a likely diversity hire then people are rightfully going to question their competence. To relate the naval ship to the Bayesian seems ridiculous, one was caused by a freak weather even while at anchor, the other was caused by a failure of command and likely easily avoided by simply dropping the anchor given they had no reason to be anywhere near the reef.